| dsamza | buyenas tasder noche | 00:09 |
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| wxl | !es | dsamza | 00:09 |
| ubottu | dsamza: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 00:09 |
| dsamza | gracias | 00:09 |
| wxl | de nada | 00:10 |
| dsamza | es que soy nuevo en esto de IRC wxl | 00:11 |
| dsamza | por eso ando bien perdido | 00:11 |
| wxl | hablo espanol un poquito! lo siento! | 00:11 |
| dsamza | ok | 00:12 |
| dsamza | gracias | 00:12 |
| dsamza | adios.... | 00:12 |
| wxl | ianorlin: no, just desktop | 00:34 |
| Py331 | I just installed Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from USB and I'm getting a kernel panic not syncing. no init. Any ideas? I've googled but haven't found anything that helped. I just did a normal install. | 03:26 |
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| ianorlin | grr one of my machines needs a bios update and I don't have a windows liscense for it | 16:54 |
| ianorlin | and the bios updater only runs from dos or windows | 16:55 |
| Unit193 | What brand? | 17:00 |
| ianorlin | dell | 17:00 |
| ianorlin | dimension 3000 and the guide says use windows or dos | 17:01 |
| testdr | ianorlin: check grub - that is the boot-manager used from ubuntu too - and it has bootable iso-files to use as FreeDOS-Boot-Disks, that are booted from the grub-manager. Can be used on usb-sticks too and you only need to add the bios-update-exe from the download | 17:01 |
| holstein | why do you need to update the bios? | 17:01 |
| ianorlin | to see if a suspend resume bug still is a problem | 17:01 |
| ianorlin | not that suspend is that useful on a dimension 3000 | 17:01 |
| Unit193 | ianorlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS | 17:01 |
| Unit193 | I used the hot swap method, worked for me. | 17:03 |
| testdr | ianorlin: What is "suspend" for you? Using swap as storage or keep RAM with power alive? (suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk) | 17:03 |
| testdr | ianorlin: one example for grub to boot FreeDOS: https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/FreeDOS | 17:06 |
| ianorlin | hmm bug 1362555 seems to be reported in the wrong place but I am able to reproduce the behavior in utopic but this bug should be agianst xfce-notificationd right? | 17:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1362555 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "notification dialog has horizonal bars" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362555 | 17:46 |
| wxl | ianorlin: well you're right it shouldn't be lxpanel | 17:48 |
| wxl | i don't remember what we use for notification though. we don't use xfce's do we???? | 17:48 |
| Unit193 | Last I knew, but you should check what you have running as you can change it. | 17:50 |
| wxl | oh wow you're right ianorlin | 17:50 |
| wxl | xfce4-notifyd | 17:50 |
| tacomaster | I was wondering, Lubuntu doesn't run really badly per say but it is still slow. I have a pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT and 1GB of ram. I feel like this should be a little bit faster than it is. Every thing takes forever to load and browsing the web is really slow as well. | 17:53 |
| testdr | tacomaster: "takes forever to load" - you should check your harddisk-performance. Maybe your hardware is nearly broken and this is only the first sign you notice before its breakdown. | 18:09 |
| tacomaster | testdr: smart status shows the disk as good. Memtest86 shows that the memory has no erros (ran for over 6 hours) | 18:10 |
| testdr | tacomaster: then give the transferrate from hdparm. Check manpage for hdparm and the command is (needs root-rights): hdparm -tT /dev/sda and do this too for your root-partition | 18:11 |
| testdr | tacomaster: if this dropout from channel is normal for you - you may have network problems too. | 18:12 |
| tacomaster | No I am still getting used to lubuntu. in ubuntu you can close the main program and it closes to status bar but if you close it in lubunu is terminates the program | 18:13 |
| tacomaster | /dev/sda: | 18:13 |
| tacomaster | Timing cached reads: 1422 MB in 2.00 seconds = 711.34 MB/sec | 18:13 |
| tacomaster | Timing buffered disk reads: 172 MB in 3.03 seconds = 56.84 MB/sec | 18:13 |
| testdr | tacomaster: that is an older harddisk - but i have seen much older ones with only 30MB/sec | 18:14 |
| tacomaster | Well yea its an old computer | 18:14 |
| testdr | tacomaster: only to show you the difference, i have: cached reads 2217.40 MB/sec and disk reads 188.44 MB/sec | 18:15 |
| testdr | tacomaster: but like i said - you have to check the root-partition too. You get it in the terminal with "df" for "/" - maybe /dev/sda3 or something else | 18:16 |
| tacomaster | I had blackbox on gentoo with this machine and it ran pretty fast but I hated the compile times of all of the programs. I am not sure if it is just because of blackbox being lighter or if there is just more background processes in lubuntu | 18:16 |
| testdr | tacomaster: run please (in terminal) command "free" and give the line with "-/+ buffer/cache" | 18:17 |
| tacomaster | -/+ buffers/cache: 296044 720560 | 18:18 |
| testdr | tacomaster: and last - you should need a swap-part for a computer with only 1GB ram | 18:18 |
| tacomaster | I have a 2GB swap partition | 18:19 |
| testdr | tacomaster: this looks nice - no big memory waste and therefore the reason is not only the small mem of 1GB | 18:19 |
| testdr | tacomaster: the free-command shows how much is used of your swap. What is used? | 18:20 |
| tacomaster | I think it is just the difference between using a window manager vs a desktop enviroment | 18:20 |
| tacomaster | 24172 used of swap | 18:20 |
| tacomaster | out of 2013136 | 18:21 |
| testdr | tacomaster: that is not much - now check running programs - you know "top"? | 18:21 |
| tacomaster | yea I have been using top and I am not really maxing out the cpu at all. The biggest tax is when im using the flash plugin and that takes up about 30% of the cpu alone | 18:22 |
| wxl | ew flash | 18:22 |
| wxl | there's your problem :) | 18:22 |
| tacomaster | lol :D | 18:22 |
| * wxl sinks back into the shadows | 18:22 | |
| testdr | jo - flash the old waste | 18:22 |
| tacomaster | It is required for work website | 18:23 |
| wxl | you should tell your work they're doing a disservice to their customers :) | 18:23 |
| testdr | tacomaster: you should check top more often - maybe even let it run in a terminal and you can see what programs may suddenly pull down your cpu-performance (doing things you dont know). | 18:23 |
| testdr | tacomaster: you know how to change the time-period for top? Change it to 1 second. And check how much cpu top then wastes. | 18:24 |
| tacomaster | I have never changed the time-period for top but I'm sure its not that hard. Its probably listed in the man page some where | 18:25 |
| testdr | tacomaster: for the performance of your network/internet connection you should (without any other programs running) check the download-speed when you are doing the ubuntu-software-updates. Those download nearly run with full speed | 18:26 |
| testdr | tacomaster: in running top - its press key "s" and then enter 1 for a 1 second timeout instead of the default of 3 seconds | 18:27 |
| testdr | tacomaster: and - like i said - you should run it constantly to get used to it and what programs are shown and what uses your cpu to notice if something else is consuming the cpu-performance | 18:28 |
| testdr | tacomaster: if you do more internet-browsing - you should consider to do it most times without animated images, without flash enabled and without java/script enabled (and without cookies stealing some packets too). | 18:30 |
| wxl | the first thing would be identifying where the problem is. is it memory, cpu, io, swap, etc? | 18:31 |
| testdr | wxl: we have done: memory, harddisk-performance, swap, now with top its the cpu thing. | 18:31 |
| wxl | sorry i guess it sounds like you got it under control testdr :) | 18:32 |
| testdr | np wxl | 18:32 |
| wxl | there's also the question of network, too | 18:32 |
| tacomaster | I think it is just me not used to being on a slow machine. My normal laptop is an i7 processor and cuts into everything I throw at it with out stutter | 18:33 |
| wxl | yeah well that's the question, too: your reference point | 18:33 |
| testdr | network - thats what i said about the time when he is doing ubuntu-software-updates and he should check the network performance there, because those server (from ubuntu) are quit fast and dont use flash or javascript.. | 18:33 |
| wxl | lubuntu makes old machines run well, it just doesn't make them perform magic :) | 18:33 |
| testdr | i did a lubuntu install on an old laptop with windows-xp. The laptop had only 256mb ram and a 20GB-harddisk. win-xp used 20 seconds to boot and lubuntu was the same. It can do no magics - but it runs with uptodate-software and it was nice to see games like "frozen-boobles" run in full-screen and see the wlan-chip working. | 18:36 |
| testdr | tacomaster: games? Ever tried those to check the performance? For example like frozen-bubbles (with sound and a lot of eye-candy). | 18:37 |
| tacomaster | testdr: No I have never really tried any games on this computer. I am trying to make this computer so I can devote to nothing but work on this computer | 18:45 |
| tacomaster | I don't need much just a no frills fast light weight distro | 18:46 |
| john_rambo | Hi, I disabled the lxpanel to try Cairo-dock ...now I have removed it and restored the lxpanel but the desktop right click menu has changed and files which are the desktop are not visible. I can see them only via pcmanfm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30630174/Selection_001.png | 19:11 |
| john_rambo | I wan to restore the default right click lubuntu menu | 19:12 |
| zy3pD | Menu→settings→desktop settings | 19:13 |
| zy3pD | i don't know the english names exactly | 19:13 |
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