[00:09] buyenas tasder noche [00:09] !es | dsamza [00:09] dsamza: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [00:09] gracias [00:10] de nada [00:11] es que soy nuevo en esto de IRC wxl [00:11] por eso ando bien perdido [00:11] hablo espanol un poquito! lo siento! [00:12] ok [00:12] gracias [00:12] adios.... [00:34] ianorlin: no, just desktop [03:26] I just installed Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from USB and I'm getting a kernel panic not syncing. no init. Any ideas? I've googled but haven't found anything that helped. I just did a normal install. === Sachiru_ is now known as Sachiru === RedDeath is now known as Guest72119 === Guest72119 is now known as Bl4ckSh4d0w [16:54] grr one of my machines needs a bios update and I don't have a windows liscense for it [16:55] and the bios updater only runs from dos or windows [17:00] What brand? [17:00] dell [17:01] dimension 3000 and the guide says use windows or dos [17:01] ianorlin: check grub - that is the boot-manager used from ubuntu too - and it has bootable iso-files to use as FreeDOS-Boot-Disks, that are booted from the grub-manager. Can be used on usb-sticks too and you only need to add the bios-update-exe from the download [17:01] why do you need to update the bios? [17:01] to see if a suspend resume bug still is a problem [17:01] not that suspend is that useful on a dimension 3000 [17:01] ianorlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DellBIOS [17:03] I used the hot swap method, worked for me. [17:03] ianorlin: What is "suspend" for you? Using swap as storage or keep RAM with power alive? (suspend-to-ram or suspend-to-disk) [17:06] ianorlin: one example for grub to boot FreeDOS: https://wiki.debian.org/DualBoot/FreeDOS [17:46] hmm bug 1362555 seems to be reported in the wrong place but I am able to reproduce the behavior in utopic but this bug should be agianst xfce-notificationd right? [17:46] bug 1362555 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "notification dialog has horizonal bars" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362555 [17:48] ianorlin: well you're right it shouldn't be lxpanel [17:48] i don't remember what we use for notification though. we don't use xfce's do we???? [17:50] Last I knew, but you should check what you have running as you can change it. [17:50] oh wow you're right ianorlin [17:50] xfce4-notifyd [17:53] I was wondering, Lubuntu doesn't run really badly per say but it is still slow. I have a pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT and 1GB of ram. I feel like this should be a little bit faster than it is. Every thing takes forever to load and browsing the web is really slow as well. [18:09] tacomaster: "takes forever to load" - you should check your harddisk-performance. Maybe your hardware is nearly broken and this is only the first sign you notice before its breakdown. [18:10] testdr: smart status shows the disk as good. Memtest86 shows that the memory has no erros (ran for over 6 hours) [18:11] tacomaster: then give the transferrate from hdparm. Check manpage for hdparm and the command is (needs root-rights): hdparm -tT /dev/sda and do this too for your root-partition [18:12] tacomaster: if this dropout from channel is normal for you - you may have network problems too. [18:13] No I am still getting used to lubuntu. in ubuntu you can close the main program and it closes to status bar but if you close it in lubunu is terminates the program [18:13] /dev/sda: [18:13] Timing cached reads: 1422 MB in 2.00 seconds = 711.34 MB/sec [18:13] Timing buffered disk reads: 172 MB in 3.03 seconds = 56.84 MB/sec [18:14] tacomaster: that is an older harddisk - but i have seen much older ones with only 30MB/sec [18:14] Well yea its an old computer [18:15] tacomaster: only to show you the difference, i have: cached reads 2217.40 MB/sec and disk reads 188.44 MB/sec [18:16] tacomaster: but like i said - you have to check the root-partition too. You get it in the terminal with "df" for "/" - maybe /dev/sda3 or something else [18:16] I had blackbox on gentoo with this machine and it ran pretty fast but I hated the compile times of all of the programs. I am not sure if it is just because of blackbox being lighter or if there is just more background processes in lubuntu [18:17] tacomaster: run please (in terminal) command "free" and give the line with "-/+ buffer/cache" [18:18] -/+ buffers/cache: 296044 720560 [18:18] tacomaster: and last - you should need a swap-part for a computer with only 1GB ram [18:19] I have a 2GB swap partition [18:19] tacomaster: this looks nice - no big memory waste and therefore the reason is not only the small mem of 1GB [18:20] tacomaster: the free-command shows how much is used of your swap. What is used? [18:20] I think it is just the difference between using a window manager vs a desktop enviroment [18:20] 24172 used of swap [18:21] out of 2013136 [18:21] tacomaster: that is not much - now check running programs - you know "top"? [18:22] yea I have been using top and I am not really maxing out the cpu at all. The biggest tax is when im using the flash plugin and that takes up about 30% of the cpu alone [18:22] ew flash [18:22] there's your problem :) [18:22] lol :D [18:22] * wxl sinks back into the shadows [18:22] jo - flash the old waste [18:23] It is required for work website [18:23] you should tell your work they're doing a disservice to their customers :) [18:23] tacomaster: you should check top more often - maybe even let it run in a terminal and you can see what programs may suddenly pull down your cpu-performance (doing things you dont know). [18:24] tacomaster: you know how to change the time-period for top? Change it to 1 second. And check how much cpu top then wastes. [18:25] I have never changed the time-period for top but I'm sure its not that hard. Its probably listed in the man page some where [18:26] tacomaster: for the performance of your network/internet connection you should (without any other programs running) check the download-speed when you are doing the ubuntu-software-updates. Those download nearly run with full speed [18:27] tacomaster: in running top - its press key "s" and then enter 1 for a 1 second timeout instead of the default of 3 seconds [18:28] tacomaster: and - like i said - you should run it constantly to get used to it and what programs are shown and what uses your cpu to notice if something else is consuming the cpu-performance [18:30] tacomaster: if you do more internet-browsing - you should consider to do it most times without animated images, without flash enabled and without java/script enabled (and without cookies stealing some packets too). [18:31] the first thing would be identifying where the problem is. is it memory, cpu, io, swap, etc? [18:31] wxl: we have done: memory, harddisk-performance, swap, now with top its the cpu thing. [18:32] sorry i guess it sounds like you got it under control testdr :) [18:32] np wxl [18:32] there's also the question of network, too [18:33] I think it is just me not used to being on a slow machine. My normal laptop is an i7 processor and cuts into everything I throw at it with out stutter [18:33] yeah well that's the question, too: your reference point [18:33] network - thats what i said about the time when he is doing ubuntu-software-updates and he should check the network performance there, because those server (from ubuntu) are quit fast and dont use flash or javascript.. [18:33] lubuntu makes old machines run well, it just doesn't make them perform magic :) [18:36] i did a lubuntu install on an old laptop with windows-xp. The laptop had only 256mb ram and a 20GB-harddisk. win-xp used 20 seconds to boot and lubuntu was the same. It can do no magics - but it runs with uptodate-software and it was nice to see games like "frozen-boobles" run in full-screen and see the wlan-chip working. [18:37] tacomaster: games? Ever tried those to check the performance? For example like frozen-bubbles (with sound and a lot of eye-candy). [18:45] testdr: No I have never really tried any games on this computer. I am trying to make this computer so I can devote to nothing but work on this computer [18:46] I don't need much just a no frills fast light weight distro [19:11] Hi, I disabled the lxpanel to try Cairo-dock ...now I have removed it and restored the lxpanel but the desktop right click menu has changed and files which are the desktop are not visible. I can see them only via pcmanfm https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30630174/Selection_001.png [19:12] I wan to restore the default right click lubuntu menu [19:13] Menu→settings→desktop settings [19:13] i don't know the english names exactly