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stgraberrobert_ancell: did somebody ping you about that recent unity-settings-daemon upload already?03:34
robert_ancellstgraber, no03:34
robert_ancellthe dependencies?03:34
stgraberyeah03:34
stgraberthat's pulling about 25 -dev packages on my desktop here03:34
robert_ancellI've already proposed a fix for that03:34
robert_ancellbug 137272803:35
ubot5bug 1372728 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "libunity-settings-daemon1 installing lot of *-dev new dependency packages" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137272803:35
stgraberah, let me check the queue03:35
stgraberI checked in -proposed but I guess the fix may be stuck in unapproved03:35
robert_ancellit hasn't been merged yet, it's awaiting review / landing03:35
stgraberah03:35
stgraberrobert_ancell: ok, can you try to push for things to go a bit faster? we're releasing a milestone this week and I'm sure the various flavours could do without that extra bloat03:36
robert_ancellI think I'll just upload it directly. The paperwork is too slow03:37
stgrabersounds good to me :)03:37
stgraberin the past when dealing with that kind of issue, I've found the fix first, sort out the paperwork later approach to work pretty well even if it does tend to confuse some of the folks maintaining those branches and alternate workflow :)03:38
robert_ancellstgraber, 14.04.0+14.10.20140922-0ubuntu2 - please shuffle through the queue03:39
stgraberrobert_ancell: accepted03:44
Noskcajdarkxst, Could you explain http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415321/ ? It's the ppa rebased onto the current ubuntu empathy version03:55
NoskcajAnd with all the geoclue changes reverted03:55
darkxstNoskcaj, are you missing libaccounts-glib-dev builddep maybe?04:06
Noskcaji'll try04:06
darkxstNoskcaj, also libsignon-glib-dev?04:12
darkxstNoskcaj, paste your control file if it still doesnt work04:14
Noskcajok04:15
Noskcajhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8415513/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415512/04:36
pittiGood morning04:40
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darkxstNoskcaj, I can't see anything missing, but its quite a mess that control file!05:49
darkxstppa version builds fine against utopic, so probably some build-dep missing05:50
darkxstNoskcaj, can you push your branch06:04
Noskcajlp:~noskcaj/empathy/3.1206:05
Noskcaj(not pushed yet)06:05
Noskcajpushed06:07
NoskcajIt's probably from my really bad revert patch06:08
darkxstNoskcaj, Revert patch is missing06:17
Noskcajpushed06:17
darkxstNoskcaj, use git revert to make revert patches06:27
Noskcajok. I'd not realised that was a thing06:28
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darkxstNoskcaj, you are missing a "DPKG_EXPORT_BUILDFLAGS = 1" in rules (needed or buildflags.mk won't do anything)06:29
darkxstwe also force autoreconf on telepathy-accounts-widgets/ (see debian/autoreconf)06:29
didrocksmorning06:31
larsugood morning!06:44
Noskcajdarkxst, still not06:51
dufluMirv: Thanks again. Can you also change the Mir development focus to series 0.8?06:53
duflu(same branch in reality)06:54
Mirvduflu: ok, done! you're welcome.06:58
darkxstNoskcaj, you broke 00_linker-fixes.patch somehow07:00
darkxstthat was causing your build failures07:01
darkxstand that patch should really be sent upstream07:02
Noskcajthanks for spotting that, i think quilt refresh broke it somehow07:03
darkxstNoskcaj, never quilt-refresh patches that don't need it!07:03
Noskcajyep, i think it was offset, but i shouldn't refresh unless it's got a fuzz07:04
dufluMirv: You rock07:05
Noskcajdarkxst, thanks, fixed. Hopefully it functions with my reverts and doesn't need other unlisted ones07:12
willcookemorning all07:35
willcooketoday is the day the builders come to fix the roof.07:35
willcookeand so it is raining07:36
willcookeyay07:36
willcooke:/07:36
willcookein other news - the shoe shop are going to refund my money for the lost shoes.07:36
willcookeyay07:36
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didrocksmorning willcooke07:39
didrocksargh, no look on the weather :/07:39
willcookeit can't rain all day.07:39
willcookeDid you hear me weather gods!!!!07:39
seb128good morning desktopers07:39
darkxstNoskcaj, how many patches did you revert?07:40
* didrocks whistles "U" "K" :)07:41
Noskcaj407:48
Noskcajtop 4 results for "geoclue" in the log07:48
darkxstNoskcaj, that would be right07:55
darkxstbut... your changelog should give credit to the relevant people07:56
darkxstwould be more or less 3.10.1-0ubuntu1~trusty2 entry from ppa, then seperately list your reverts for geoclue07:59
Noskcajdone, or do i need to make the revert patches separate?08:01
darkxstNoskcaj, at the very least update the patch header to say which commits you reverted08:02
Laneywhy hello08:04
darkxstHi Laney08:04
didrocksbecause hi? :)08:04
Noskcajdone08:09
darkxstNoskcaj, I think patch 23 can be re-enabled08:14
darkxst38_default_to_facebook_for_im.patch , code was moved, refresh in telepathy-account-widgets/tp-account-widgets/tpaw-protocol.c08:15
seb128hey Laney08:15
darkxstNoskcaj, 42_shell_running, just a refresh http://pastebin.com/dR6et9yi08:23
darkxst47_git_activate_with_platform_data.patch is applied upstream so can be dropped08:27
darkxstNoskcaj, http://pastebin.com/yQuedJvL08:39
Laneyyou guys should use a vcs or something :)08:39
seb128Laney, they use pastebinvcs08:42
seb128:p08:42
darkxstyeh, it works great until the pastes expire ;)08:42
seb128Laney, does https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/factory_reset_iface/+merge/235699 make sense to you? iirc you hit similar issues in the past/did similar changes, just checking because you probably remember better than me ;-)09:06
Laneyseb128: yeah isValid is bad in those situations09:09
seb128robert_ancell, hey, could you have a look to 1371651 ?09:11
seb128robert_ancell, jibel pinged about it, seems easy to trigger on vbox/qemu and impact beta testing09:12
seb128robert_ancell, giving an IRC ping since you are still online, but probably something for tomorrow ;-)09:12
seb128jibel, ^09:12
LaneyI think there are a couple more places where isValid calls could/should be removed09:14
Laneylemme see09:14
seb128robert_ancell, seems like you already looked at it ;-)09:15
seb128Laney, in that code or in u-s-s?09:15
Laneyin the rest of uss09:15
seb128k09:15
seb128so that one can be approved09:15
Laneythink so09:15
seb128thanks09:15
Laneylike the SetTime call in time-date09:15
Laneynot sure why I didn't do that one when I removed other calls in that panel ...09:15
seb128if you do a merge request for those I can ack it ;-)09:15
Laneylemme see09:16
Laneyit'll be: launch uss, pkill timedated, try to set time09:16
Laneys/pkill/enter time setting screen, pkill/09:16
Laneyyeah09:19
Laneygosh!09:19
seb128what?09:20
Laneyme missing that back then09:20
seb128oh09:20
mitya57sil2100, hi, thanks a lot for approving lp:~mitya57/appmenu-qt5/lp1362104. Maybe it makes sense to land it (or will there be other changes for utopic)?09:20
darkxstNoskcaj, lp:~darkxst/empathy/3.1209:21
robert_ancellseb128, yeah, I've started looking at it but am on holiday until next week so wont look again until then.09:25
robert_ancellseb128, if you can find anyone to get more logs etc it would be helpful. My guess is something is going wrong with the upstart scripts and it's not being started but haven't reproduced it her09:26
seb128robert_ancell, hey09:26
seb128robert_ancell, yeah, seems to be the case, there is no lightdm log and the job is in stop state09:26
seb128robert_ancell, I suggested pinged the upstart/foundation guys09:27
robert_ancellseb128, I don't know a lot about the upstart scripts so yeah, they might be able to diagnose better09:27
seb128robert_ancell, but good to know you are on holidays, we are not going to block on you then ... enjoy ! ;-)09:27
jodhseb128, jibel: can you boot with --debug? Also, login and run 'sudo initctl --system list' and attach that.09:27
jibeljodh, output of initctl attached, and boot with --debug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651/+attachment/4211218/+files/syslog.1371651.gz09:31
ubot5Launchpad bug 1371651 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Triaged]09:31
jodhjibel: thanks, but that's a huge file all dated 22nd. Is that correct?09:34
jodhjibel: would also be worth looking at /var/log/upstart/lightdm.log et al to look for errors.09:35
jibeljodh, let me attach one with latest image. problem is the same09:35
jibeljodh, /var/log/upstart/lightdm.log doesn't exist09:35
jibeljodh, and I searched for errors/failures in all the files in /var/log but didn't find anything obvious09:37
jibeljodh, syslog with --debug on latest image https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651/+attachment/4213317/+files/syslog--debug_utopic_i386_20140923.gz09:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 1371651 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Triaged]09:40
jodhjibel: It looks like the problem could be plymouth - no plymouth-ready event is being emitted and that is required by lightdm. Can you check that status of lightdm (sudo initctl --system status lightdm). And also check that you can manually start it.09:44
Noskcajdarkxst, So did you finish it? guess i'll just call it a night then09:47
jibeljodh, lightdm stop/waiting09:47
jodhjibel: try starting it via 'sudo initctl --system emit plymouth-ready'09:48
jibeljodh, lightdm starts09:48
jodhjibel: great, so it's either a problem with plymouth displaying the splash screen (do you see one?) or a udev issue.09:50
jibeljodh, there is no splash screen09:50
jodhjibel: just to check, do you get output from 'grep PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY /var/log/udev' ?09:51
jibeljodh, nothing09:52
jodhjibel: ok, so it must be that udevd isn't finding a graphics device to tag as the primary one, which stops the plymouth splash from starting.09:54
jibeljodh, but why would it start sometimes?09:55
jibelI mean lightdm09:55
jodhjibel: sounds like a race. can you check for the presence of PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY in /var/log/udev for a successful boot?09:57
jodhjibel: udev-fallback-graphics.conf should be being used as a fallback so check if vesafb is loaded in the kernel.09:58
jibeljodh, lightdm starts if I display the boot menu but there is no PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY in /var/log/udev10:09
darkxstNoskcaj, I only fixed up the disabled patches10:10
jodhjibel: and is vesafb loaded?10:10
Noskcajdarkxst, Wasn't that all that was left? or didn't you take my branch?10:11
darkxstNoskcaj, that was your branch, and probably its ready10:11
Noskcajdarkxst, Could you leave a comment at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj#Ubuntu-GNOME_PackageSet ?10:12
jibeljodh, no10:14
darkxstNoskcaj, username entry on add accounts is very laggy here10:18
darkxstNoskcaj, yes I will leave a comment10:19
jodhjibel: sounds therefore like the framebuffer isn't being setup normally, but when you enter the boot menu grub is handling that. Booting with 'debug' this time and capturing /run/initramfs/initramfs.debug could be useful.10:24
darkxstNoskcaj, have you tested empathy?10:33
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jibeljodh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651/+attachment/4213440/+files/initramfs.debug11:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1371651 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Triaged]11:07
Laneyseb128: you updating to evince 3.14?11:09
seb128Laney, feel free to do it if you want11:25
seb128Laney, I'm probably going to but not his week since we are frozen11:25
Laneykay, might do11:27
didrockspopey: and a new blog post that we discussed last week on testing! https://plus.google.com/+DidierRoche/posts/aAnRPyvvPBE Mind sharing it through the usual channels?11:32
didrockswillcooke: ^11:32
didrockspopey: as the weather is getting cold, please make my raspberry sweating! :)11:33
popey\o/11:33
* ogra_ wonders if he wants to know what "make my raspberry sweating" is supposed to mean11:37
didrocksogra_: raspberry pi, of course :p11:37
ogra_:)11:37
darkxstseb128, can you try lp:~darkxst/empathy/3.1212:27
seb128darkxst, sure can, thanks for working on that!12:28
darkxstNoskcaj did the merge, I just sorted out the disabled patches12:28
darkxstseb128, I am hitting a wierd focus bug on the username field in the when adding account via empathy account settings12:30
seb128what sort of bug?12:30
darkxstbut that may be a gtk bug, doesnt happen with gtk 3.1412:30
darkxstthe text box doesnt properly focus, you can type, and not see anything until you click the password box12:31
willcookethx didrocks12:48
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seb128kenvandine, hey13:59
seb128kenvandine, do you have a settings landing on your todo? ;-)13:59
kenvandinehey seb12813:59
kenvandineyes... we really need one :)13:59
seb128great!13:59
kenvandineseb128, about my peer picker branch, what panel is visible?14:00
seb128kenvandine, the background one14:00
seb128it goes "list of picker app" -> back to background panel for a second -> gallery splash14:01
kenvandineshould just see a full screen overlay14:01
seb128overlay?14:01
seb128when14:01
kenvandinethe ContentTransferHint14:01
seb128I mean that's happening after clicking on the gallery icon14:01
kenvandineit should cover the panel with a progress thing14:01
kenvandineyeah... it happens when the transfer is created14:01
kenvandineam i still popping that page too soon?14:01
seb128want a screencast? ;-)14:02
kenvandinei played with that, and couldn't see it in the transition :)14:02
kenvandineactually... i can pop it when the transfer is created too...14:03
seb128let me try again14:03
kenvandineseb128, i can see where it might show quickly14:08
seb128kenvandine, want a screencast anyway?14:08
kenvandinenah14:08
kenvandinei can improve it :)14:08
seb128great :-)14:08
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xnoxseb128: do you like desktopy gnutls bugs?! =)14:27
xnoxin trusty.14:27
seb128xnox, gnutls? what is that?14:28
xnoxseb128: you know that obscure thing that handles some of the ssl connections in ubuntu. The best part it does it differently from openssl and thus half of things don't work against certain hosts.14:29
xnoxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls26/+bug/137342214:29
ubot5Launchpad bug 1373422 in gnutls26 (Ubuntu) "gnutls fails to connect to https://01.org in trusty" [Undecided,New]14:29
xnoxutopic is fine though.14:29
seb128xnox, doesn't seem too desktopish to me, try foundation?14:29
xnoxseb128: foundations hasn't hired a replacement for myself yet.14:29
seb128xnox, nice for you to step up until they do then ;-)14:30
seb128nice from you*14:30
xnoxmaybe i can trick jdstrand into adding one more intermediate certificate to ca-certs ;-)14:30
mdeslaurxnox: fyi, It works fine in trusty for me14:38
xnoxmdeslaur: horum -> using which certs and which client.14:39
xnoxmdeslaur: it doesn't work for me in a clean trusty chroot, with ca-certificates installed using gnutls-cli.14:39
xnoxmdeslaur: can you show me your paste?14:39
mdeslauroh, wait a sec, I messed up14:39
xnox( my real problem is that git clone https:// does not work against servers with same certificate chain, but gnutls-cli 01.org is the minimal test.14:40
xnox... or well anything else that's using gnutls, or libcurl(gnutls)14:40
xnoxcurl cmdline utility uses openssl and that works.14:41
mdeslaurI haven't looked at it yet, but it's probably an out of order cert, and you're hitting the well known gnutls issue with out-of-order certs14:41
xnoxmdeslaur: hm, i've never heard about that. Any good terms to google for?14:43
xnoxgnutls 3.x work fine by the way, hence utopic is not affected.14:43
mdeslaurxnox: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573736 , http://lists.gnutls.org/pipermail/gnutls-devel/2013-July/006389.html14:43
ubot5Debian bug 573736 in libgnutls26 "permit incorrectly sorted server certificate chains" [Wishlist,Open]14:43
mdeslaurxnox: I was sure we had a bug in ubuntu about it, but can't find it now14:43
mdeslaurxnox: I haven't checked if that's the case with 01.org yet, but I suspect that's the issue14:44
xnoxmdeslaur: yes the certificates are out of order.14:47
xnoxi'll file internal ticket about this.14:47
mdeslaurxnox: cool.14:52
mdeslaurgetting that properly backported in trusty would be nice too: http://marc.info/?l=gnutls-dev&m=13748780081092414:52
* didrocks sees that ogra_ is slow today to repost on g+, is there a bug in Touch? :)14:54
ogra_lol, no, i was out ... buying a new coffee machine14:55
didrocksogra_: you parallelize coffee now due to a huge demand? :p14:56
ogra_yeah, kind of14:56
ogra_done :)14:57
Laneyogra in the bourgeoisie14:57
xnoxmdeslaur: so you want me to backport something to gnutls26 -> i clearly remember stating to never write any crypto code.14:58
didrocksogra_: danke schön14:58
ogra_:)14:58
mdeslaurxnox: it's an annoying bug, and people keep hitting it...the patch backport in that thread looks simple enough...just need to make sure it's doing the same as 3.x14:59
xnoxmdeslaur: right. is there any proper ubuntu LP bug about it?!14:59
mdeslaurxnox: and better you then me :)14:59
xnoxmdeslaur: well the patch looks clean -> really just calling a sort on the array, so no verification code is changed.15:00
xnoxmdeslaur: ok I'll poke it more.15:00
mdeslaurxnox: I can't find any open ones...there was bug 104337615:02
ubot5bug 1043376 in Glib Networking "Certificate issues for different 3d secure server" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104337615:02
mdeslaurxnox: looks like your bug is the best one15:02
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seb128dpm, hey, indicator-transfer template made it to the rtm serie/translations are on launchpad, just as fyi since I'm unsure you need to do anything then to have those part of langpacks or something15:25
seb128kenvandine, ok, settings are getting crazy, we need a landing to clear out of some of the review list ;-)15:26
kenvandineseb128, yes it is :)15:28
seb128kenvandine, btw saw my comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/keywords/+merge/235737 ?15:28
kenvandineseb128, yes15:30
kenvandinepmcgowan, ^^^ can you comment on that?15:30
seb128kenvandine, also, is https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/update_progress/+merge/235199 ready for review?15:31
seb128or still wip as the description states?15:31
kenvandinempt, i wanted feedback from mpt... but i guess he gave up :/15:32
Laneypushed a branch with icon fix, might want to wait for debs to see if it works15:33
pmcgowanseb128, kenvandine they all have settings now, I assumed there was some reason15:34
kenvandinesome did15:34
pmcgowanseems redundant15:34
pmcgowanseb128, you are suggesting to remove that word?15:35
pmcgowanI am fine with that15:35
pmcgowanor maybe it was on things which had settings and not for example in about which is info15:36
Laneywe should make sure to do a pot update with this upload15:36
dpmseb128, thanks. I think it will need initial approval, let me look at it now15:44
seb128dpm, well, I did the launchpad template approval15:46
seb128dpm, just not sure if you need any magic to have it having an higher priority so translators see it or something15:46
dpmseb128, yep, just seen it and bumped the priority so that it appears together with the rest of indicators15:46
dpmthat should be all we need15:47
seb128great15:48
seb128dpm, thanks15:48
FJKonghey seb12815:57
seb128hey FJKong15:58
FJKongI want to talk about pinyin search, last week we miss it15:58
seb128FJKong, sure15:58
FJKongseb128: what do you think about this feature15:59
seb128FJKong, it's useful and good to have obviously ;-)16:02
seb128FJKong, I'm unsure how much work it is though16:03
seb128especially with the library unity7 is using16:03
seb128I assume it's probably easier in unity816:03
FJKongseb128: willcooke wants me to ping a guy from uniy team, Thomas Sthrel, but I didn't reach him on irc16:07
willcookeFJKong, he's on holiday16:07
willcookeshouldbe back next week16:07
seb128FJKong, he's on holidays until next week16:07
FJKongoh, nice16:08
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seb128Laney, btw, I tested glib on rtm, I don't see any issue, +1 from me for landing18:43
mhall119seb128: any idea what might be causing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1322925 ?18:44
ubot5Launchpad bug 1322925 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Copy, paste stops working randomly in Ubuntu 14.04 nautilus" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:44
seb128mhall119, no idea no18:45
seb128it seems like worth upstreaming18:45
seb128if somebody hitting the issue wants to do that18:45
mhall119a quick googling doesn't turn up this problem on any other distro, could it be something only in our version?18:46
mhall119well, I mean obviously that's possible, so what I really meant was are we doing anything likely to cause it?18:47
seb128yeah, everything is possible18:47
seb128could be a patch, could be a compiler bug, could be that we have more google hint for the keywords you are looking for18:47
seb128nothing likely to cause it that I know no18:48
mhall119#3 is very likely18:48
mhall119ok18:48
seb128mhall119, comments say it exits since 12.0418:52
seb128mhall119, they also list different issues18:53
seb128like the current comment is about permissions errors, which is probably a disk that got remounted "ro" due to errors or something18:53
mhall119yeah, seems to not have much solid information about it19:04
mhall119and I've never experienced it myself19:04
seb128yeah, me neither19:06
seb128without an easy way to trigger it's difficult to debug19:06
seb128the bug has some users/comments but no duplicate19:06
seb128darkxst, empathy 3.12 works fine here, I don't see you username input bug in empathy-accounts, just added a jabber account without issue19:10
seb128wooot, u-s-s landing!19:11
seb128thanks kenvandine19:11
kenvandinenp19:14
pmcgowanbregma, hi can you assign and tag this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-mediascanner/+bug/135875021:11
ubot5Launchpad bug 1358750 in unity-scope-mediascanner (Ubuntu) "[Video aggregator] New videos are added to the video scope only after reboot" [Critical,New]21:11
hallynIs there a way to set unity so that when i resize a window, i get a dialog telling me the size as i do it?22:07
hallynor do i have to get that info after the fact using wmctrl.22:08
hallynsigh i'll just do that22:11
ochosixnox: this sounds a bit familiar (black background in ubiquity in xubuntu instead of wallpaper), got any idea why this is happening? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/136581523:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 1365815 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Black background on Try or Install screen" [Critical,Confirmed]23:46
ochosiguess we should assign it to ubiquity actually, not sure it has anything to do with x-d-s23:47
ochosibbl23:48

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