[11:33] morning [11:34] ugh [11:34] it'll all get better tomorrow...it'll all get better tomorrow [11:36] That doesn't sound like a promising mid-week mantra [12:01] rick_h_: Why will it get better tomorrow? [12:02] Good morning [12:03] I think that's release day, no? [12:03] Also: if anyone wants to practice their presenting skills we have a unique opportunity this month t MUG. :) [12:11] Oh, right, what day is that? [12:13] I'm trying to schedule my RPi/Python talk with the Kalamazoo Linux Users Group and Kzoo Makers too [12:18] yes, release day [12:19] well, it's our release day for our team for work we've been doing since Feb [12:19] Ubuntu release is end of next month [12:20] How is this possible? http://www.modulecounts.com/ [12:20] http://goo.gl/bgFoE - Modulecounts [12:20] how is which part possible? [12:21] RubyGems and NPM having more modules than pypi [12:21] yes, they reinvent the wheel more than anyone [12:21] at one point when doing nodejs stuff there were more than 5 different postgres modules to use [12:21] all of which had one feature you want while missing one feature from every other lib [12:22] So immaturity breeds more modules? [12:22] yes [12:22] and yes [12:22] ime with them and all that [12:22] I guess that makes sense [12:32] brousch_: Second Tuesday of the month [12:32] so Oct. 14th [12:32] Free dinner for speakers. :) [12:39] Hm, still looks open for me [12:41] brousch_: If you're willing to make the trek we'll talk specifics. [12:41] eg: topic, expenses, etc. [12:42] what happened in july? [12:44] At MUG? [12:45] http://www.mug.org/2014/07/july-8th-2014-mug-meeting/ [12:45] http://goo.gl/v71uCi - July 8th, 2014 MUG Meeting | Michigan!/usr/group [12:45] http://www.mug.org/2014/07/video-july-8th-2014-meeting/ [12:45] http://goo.gl/8nxjEI - Video: July 8th 2014 Meeting | Michigan!/usr/group [13:05] My only expense is probably $20 in gas [13:07] and the $100 brain tax [13:07] as his agent I'd like to make sure my client is properly compensated for his expense of brain power [13:08] Ah yes of course. [13:08] The brain tax is always the harshest one. [13:08] I haven't seen rick_h_ in more than a year. So you will have to guarantee he will be present [13:08] hah, when is this? [13:08] October 14th. I think you're out-and-about [13:09] oh yea, I'll be helping another of my clients across a big pond [13:14] Lifestyles of the rich and geek-famous? [13:15] lifestyles of the "boss wants to see you face to face and tell you what's up" [13:15] but it is fun, got my 'christmas' gifts for the new hires in so that's a fun part. [13:16] face to face... that's so 20th-century. Who do you work for again? ;-) [13:16] well, it is in little doses. I don't think he could stand to have us in an actual office with him full time :P [13:17] I think it's more for your sanity [13:17] 30-60min boxes of time wheee [13:17] hah, yea. [13:17] You'd have a task list about as long as your collective arms if you spent more than 30 mintues with Mark. [13:19] * rick_h_ checks arms [13:21] https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1379790382/535782.jpg [13:21] http://goo.gl/cwtWFo - image/jpeg [13:22] heh, not sure if I'm incrementing each day in the job or to the next end of cycle there :) [13:31] cmaloney: no not at mug. on modulecounts.com there is some interesting activity in july [13:33] haha, just read rick_h_ from 7:30... now I want to sing Annie. [13:33] jrwren_: hah! good call [13:33] * rick_h_ makes a 'happy' playlist [13:34] "The sun'll come out... tomorrow." [13:37] mrgoodcat: Ah, not sure. [14:14] brousch_: I'm running with the devil. [14:14] https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/09/23/oracle-and-canonical-collaborate-on-support-for-oracle-linux-on-ubuntu/ [14:14] http://goo.gl/T6UP1A - Oracle and Canonical collaborate on support for Oracle Linux on Ubuntu | Ubuntu Insights [14:14] lol [14:15] rick_h_: :) [14:19] waaaaat [14:19] Sorry, makes sense if I RTFA [14:22] hah [14:22] yea, headlines fml [14:30] Hm, Oracle announces Larry Ellison leaving, next day Oracle and Ubuntu collaborate [14:30] coincidence? [14:31] http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/09/23/end-of-linux/ interesting [14:31] http://goo.gl/rgrQhB - The End of Linux - blog dot lusis [14:31] and yea, because I'm a systemd monolith hater [14:33] jrwren_: Van Halen earworm ftw! [14:34] wolfger: that is for what I was aiming, but my aim was more at cmaloney :) [14:35] VH might be too soft for him :-p [14:35] I am impervious to a Van Halen earworm [14:35] "You might as well JUMP!" [14:35] Fuck you. [14:36] I swear they did something else but can't recall [14:36] Panama [14:36] "JUMP IN!" [14:36] Hot for Teacher [14:36] oooh, good one there [14:36] pretty much the entire 1984 album [14:36] lol [14:37] 1984 album? Eh. entire VH and VH2 albums [14:37] with the exception of Atomic Punk [14:37] VH is pretty good [14:38] I like OU812, but I think I'm in the minority on that one [14:39] I recall that album being alright, though off the top of my head I can't name any song from it [14:40] Mine all Mine [14:40] When It's Love [14:40] Cabo Wabo [14:40] I think those are the biggies [14:42] Ain't talkin bout love is about the only riff that I get stuck. [14:42] and its the guitar, not the lyrics. [14:42] "Might as well jump" and "running with the devil" just makes me think of Nerf Herder [14:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3tJ_Nu7GQ saw 'em back in '96. pretty funny show. Blink182 was the little known opening band at the time. [14:43] http://goo.gl/H2YSGI - Nerf Herder - Van Halen - YouTube [14:43] I had no idea Nerf Herder had a video for this until today. [14:48] * wolfger is now listening to VH and VH2... [14:57] rick_h_: interesting blog post. I'm not sure how I feel about this gem: "Linux is becoming the thing that we adopted Linux to get away from." [14:59] I suspect the author adopted Linux for different reasons than myself. [15:01] haters gonna hate & there doesn't have to be logic behind the hate. [15:01] kinda like my android hate :) [15:22] that lusis blog post is just nonsense. I don't see a single valid point, its just a lot of "i don't like this" and "this is a problem" with no reasoning as to why. [15:45] For you keyboard fetishists http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MJ3M3G0?psc=1 [15:45] http://goo.gl/8BRREJ - Amazon.com: The Machinist Keyboard: Computers & Accessories [16:02] I'm not nearly cool enough for that keyboard [16:03] I'm not nearly rich enough for that keyboard [16:15] Pursuant to our curl | bash discussion: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ [16:15] http://goo.gl/nW5I3y - USN-2362-1: Bash vulnerability | Ubuntu [16:16] makes me want to go back in time and have a successful OSS project that everyone downloads via curl | bash [16:18] what is the current state of Nvidia drivers on Linux? [16:18] working with a chance of telling your .icc profile to go fuck itself. [16:18] Not that I'm bitter. [16:30] lol [17:25] http://se.inf.ethz.ch/people/nanz/research/rosettacode.html [17:25] http://goo.gl/unbkAJ - Rosetta Code Analysis [17:26] I guess i know even less about Go than I thought I did [17:31] lang or game? [17:31] lang [18:47] both [22:26] .hn 5 [22:26] CVE-2014-6271: Remote code execution through bash | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/649 [22:26] thought you should all know [23:04] yep, stop using bash, zsh ftw! [23:04] :P [23:04] mrgoodcat: you doing CHC tonight? [23:10] i can't [23:10] rick_h_: doesn't matter. bash is the default environment for a lot of processes [23:10] i'm in class :( [23:10] every 2 weeks i have class wednesday [23:10] mrgoodcat: I know, just having zsh fun [23:10] lol [23:10] i <3 zsh [23:26] Evening [23:27] hi there [23:27] how would you all feel about bookiebot posting ubuntu-security-announce to channel? [23:27] I think that might be excessive [23:27] since I already have it in my email