[11:33] <wolfger> morning
[11:34] <rick_h_> ugh
[11:34] <rick_h_> it'll all get better tomorrow...it'll all get better tomorrow
[11:36] <wolfger> That doesn't sound like a promising mid-week mantra
[12:01] <brousch_> rick_h_: Why will it get better tomorrow?
[12:02] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:03] <cmaloney> I think that's release day, no?
[12:03] <cmaloney> Also: if anyone wants to practice their presenting skills we have a unique opportunity this month t MUG. :)
[12:11] <brousch_> Oh, right, what day is that?
[12:13] <brousch_> I'm trying to schedule my RPi/Python talk with the Kalamazoo Linux Users Group and Kzoo Makers too
[12:18] <rick_h_> yes, release day
[12:19] <rick_h_> well, it's our release day for our team for work we've been doing since Feb
[12:19] <rick_h_> Ubuntu release is end of next month
[12:20] <brousch_> How is this possible? http://www.modulecounts.com/
[12:20] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/bgFoE - Modulecounts
[12:20] <rick_h_> how is which part possible?
[12:21] <brousch_> RubyGems and NPM having more modules than pypi
[12:21] <rick_h_> yes, they reinvent the wheel more than anyone
[12:21] <rick_h_> at one point when doing nodejs stuff there were more than 5 different postgres modules to use
[12:21] <rick_h_> all of which had one feature you want while missing one feature from every other lib
[12:22] <brousch_> So immaturity breeds more modules?
[12:22] <rick_h_> yes
[12:22] <rick_h_> and yes
[12:22] <rick_h_> ime with them and all that
[12:22] <brousch_> I guess that makes sense
[12:32] <cmaloney> brousch_: Second Tuesday of the month
[12:32] <cmaloney> so Oct. 14th
[12:32] <cmaloney> Free dinner for speakers. :)
[12:39] <brousch_> Hm, still looks open for me
[12:41] <cmaloney> brousch_: If you're willing to make the trek we'll talk specifics.
[12:41] <cmaloney> eg: topic, expenses, etc.
[12:42] <mrgoodcat> what happened in july?
[12:44] <cmaloney> At MUG?
[12:45] <cmaloney> http://www.mug.org/2014/07/july-8th-2014-mug-meeting/
[12:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/v71uCi - July 8th, 2014 MUG Meeting | Michigan!/usr/group
[12:45] <cmaloney> http://www.mug.org/2014/07/video-july-8th-2014-meeting/
[12:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/8nxjEI - Video: July 8th 2014 Meeting | Michigan!/usr/group
[13:05] <brousch_> My only expense is probably $20 in gas
[13:07] <rick_h_> and the $100 brain tax
[13:07] <rick_h_> as his agent I'd like to make sure my client is properly compensated for his expense of brain power
[13:08] <cmaloney> Ah yes of course.
[13:08] <cmaloney> The brain tax is always the harshest one.
[13:08] <brousch_> I haven't seen rick_h_ in more than a year. So you will have to guarantee he will be present
[13:08] <rick_h_> hah, when is this?
[13:08] <cmaloney> October 14th. I think you're out-and-about
[13:09] <rick_h_> oh yea, I'll be helping another of my clients across a big pond
[13:14] <wolfger> Lifestyles of the rich and geek-famous?
[13:15] <rick_h_> lifestyles of the "boss wants to see you face to face and tell you what's up"
[13:15] <rick_h_> but it is fun, got my 'christmas' gifts for the new hires in so that's a fun part.
[13:16] <wolfger> face to face... that's so 20th-century. Who do you work for again? ;-)
[13:16] <rick_h_> well, it is in little doses. I don't think he could stand to have us in an actual office with him full time :P
[13:17] <cmaloney> I think it's more for your sanity
[13:17] <rick_h_> 30-60min boxes of time wheee
[13:17] <rick_h_> hah, yea.
[13:17] <cmaloney> You'd have a task list about as long as your collective arms if you spent more than 30 mintues with Mark.
[13:19]  * rick_h_ checks arms
[13:21] <cmaloney> https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1379790382/535782.jpg
[13:21] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/cwtWFo - image/jpeg
[13:22] <rick_h_> heh, not sure if I'm incrementing each day in the job or to the next end of cycle there :)
[13:31] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: no not at mug. on modulecounts.com there is some interesting activity in july
[13:33] <jrwren_> haha, just read rick_h_ from 7:30... now I want to sing Annie.
[13:33] <rick_h_> jrwren_: hah! good call
[13:33]  * rick_h_ makes a 'happy' playlist
[13:34] <jrwren_> "The sun'll come out... tomorrow."
[13:37] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Ah, not sure.
[14:14] <jrwren_> brousch_: I'm running with the devil.
[14:14] <jrwren_> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/09/23/oracle-and-canonical-collaborate-on-support-for-oracle-linux-on-ubuntu/
[14:14] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/T6UP1A - Oracle and Canonical collaborate on support for Oracle Linux on Ubuntu | Ubuntu Insights
[14:14] <rick_h_> lol
[14:15] <jrwren_> rick_h_: :)
[14:19] <brousch_> waaaaat
[14:19] <brousch_> Sorry, makes sense if I RTFA
[14:22] <rick_h_> hah
[14:22] <rick_h_> yea, headlines fml
[14:30] <cmaloney> Hm, Oracle announces Larry Ellison leaving, next day Oracle and Ubuntu collaborate
[14:30] <cmaloney> coincidence?
[14:31] <rick_h_> http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/09/23/end-of-linux/ interesting
[14:31] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/rgrQhB - The End of Linux - blog dot lusis
[14:31] <rick_h_> and yea, because I'm a systemd monolith hater
[14:33] <wolfger> jrwren_: Van Halen earworm ftw!
[14:34] <jrwren_> wolfger: that is for what I was aiming, but my aim was more at cmaloney :)
[14:35] <wolfger> VH might be too soft for him :-p
[14:35] <cmaloney> I am impervious to a Van Halen earworm
[14:35] <rick_h_> "You might as well JUMP!"
[14:35] <cmaloney> Fuck you.
[14:36] <rick_h_> I swear they did something else but can't recall
[14:36] <cmaloney> Panama
[14:36] <rick_h_> "JUMP IN!"
[14:36] <cmaloney> Hot for Teacher
[14:36] <rick_h_> oooh, good one there
[14:36] <cmaloney> pretty much the entire 1984 album
[14:36] <rick_h_> lol
[14:37] <wolfger> 1984 album?  Eh. entire VH and VH2 albums
[14:37] <wolfger> with the exception of Atomic Punk
[14:37] <cmaloney> VH is pretty good
[14:38] <cmaloney> I like OU812, but I think I'm in the minority on that one
[14:39] <wolfger> I recall that album being alright, though off the top of my head I can't name any song from it
[14:40] <cmaloney> Mine all Mine
[14:40] <cmaloney> When It's Love
[14:40] <cmaloney> Cabo Wabo
[14:40] <cmaloney> I think those are the biggies
[14:42] <jrwren_> Ain't talkin bout love is about the only riff that I get stuck.
[14:42] <jrwren_> and its the guitar, not the lyrics.
[14:42] <jrwren_> "Might as well jump" and "running with the devil" just makes me think of Nerf Herder
[14:43] <jrwren_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC3tJ_Nu7GQ  saw 'em back in '96. pretty funny show.  Blink182 was the little known opening band at the time.
[14:43] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/H2YSGI - Nerf Herder - Van Halen - YouTube
[14:43] <jrwren_> I had no idea Nerf Herder had a video for this until today.
[14:48]  * wolfger is now listening to VH and VH2...
[14:57] <wolfger> rick_h_: interesting blog post. I'm not sure how I feel about this gem: "Linux is becoming the thing that we adopted Linux to get away from."
[14:59] <wolfger> I suspect the author adopted Linux for different reasons than myself.
[15:01] <jrwren_> haters gonna hate & there doesn't have to be logic behind the hate.
[15:01] <jrwren_> kinda like my android hate :)
[15:22] <jrwren_> that lusis blog post is just nonsense. I don't see a single valid point, its just a lot of "i don't like this" and "this is a problem" with no reasoning as to why.
[15:45] <brousch_> For you keyboard fetishists http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MJ3M3G0?psc=1
[15:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/8BRREJ - Amazon.com: The Machinist Keyboard: Computers & Accessories
[16:02] <cmaloney> I'm not nearly cool enough for that keyboard
[16:03] <wolfger> I'm not nearly rich enough for that keyboard
[16:15] <cmaloney> Pursuant to our curl | bash discussion: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[16:15] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/nW5I3y - USN-2362-1: Bash vulnerability | Ubuntu
[16:16] <cmaloney> makes me want to go back in time and have a successful OSS project that everyone downloads via curl | bash
[16:18] <wolfger> what is the current state of Nvidia drivers on Linux?
[16:18] <cmaloney> working with a chance of telling your .icc profile to go fuck itself.
[16:18] <cmaloney> Not that I'm bitter.
[16:30] <wolfger> lol
[17:25] <brousch_> http://se.inf.ethz.ch/people/nanz/research/rosettacode.html
[17:25] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/unbkAJ - Rosetta Code Analysis
[17:26] <brousch_> I guess i know even less about Go than I thought I did
[17:31] <cmaloney> lang or game?
[17:31] <brousch_> lang
[18:47] <mrgoodcat> both
[22:26] <mrgoodcat> .hn 5
[22:26] <bookiebot> CVE-2014-6271: Remote code execution through bash | http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/649
[22:26] <mrgoodcat> thought you should all know
[23:04] <rick_h_> yep, stop using bash, zsh ftw!
[23:04] <rick_h_> :P
[23:04] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: you doing CHC tonight?
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> i can't
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: doesn't matter. bash is the default environment for a lot of processes
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> i'm in class :(
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> every 2 weeks i have class wednesday
[23:10] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: I know, just having zsh fun
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> lol
[23:10] <mrgoodcat> i <3 zsh
[23:26] <cmaloney> Evening
[23:27] <mrgoodcat> hi there
[23:27] <mrgoodcat> how would you all feel about bookiebot posting ubuntu-security-announce to channel?
[23:27] <cmaloney> I think that might be excessive
[23:27] <cmaloney> since I already have it in my email