| Kilos | good morning | 05:24 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | hi Squirm gnome-session-flashback seems ok and lots faster than unity | 05:25 |
| Kilos | and only 10mB download | 05:26 |
| Kilos | just need to get used to things that way again | 05:34 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 05:35 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 05:36 |
| Kilos | wbb going to kde | 07:36 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 08:00 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 08:01 |
| nlsthzn | how is everyone? | 08:03 |
| Kilos | i dunno either, only fly greeted this morning | 08:05 |
| Kilos | im good but, and you? | 08:05 |
| nlsthzn | glad to hear... I am fine thanks... one nightshift then I have a few days off... bunch of saffa's heading to one of the waterparks day after tomorrow :D | 08:07 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:07 |
| nlsthzn | fun in da sun | 08:08 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 08:08 |
| nlsthzn | thanks :)] | 08:17 |
| nlsthzn | strange bug or something crept into xubuntu, when I select my picture folder to change my wallpaper it freezes >.< very odd... so now I am using something else else again >.< | 08:18 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:20 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 08:20 |
| nlsthzn | oh well | 08:20 |
| Kilos | haha hi spinza | 09:00 |
| spinza | hi how are you? | 09:01 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 09:01 |
| Kilos | funny that about the coyote | 09:01 |
| Kilos | hi StonedAlchemist | 09:04 |
| spinza | good, coyote? | 09:07 |
| Kilos | spinza (~spin@41-133-243-209.dsl.mweb.co.za) has left this server (Quit: Coyote finally caught me). | 09:07 |
| spinza | lol have no idea where that is coming from... | 09:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:08 |
| Kilos | nice quit message though | 09:08 |
| spinza | changed my whole irc setup | 09:09 |
| spinza | so must be one of the new clients | 09:09 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:09 |
| Kilos | what client you using | 09:09 |
| spinza | using hexchat on pcs and holoirc on android | 09:11 |
| Kilos | sjoe them android things are creaping in everywhere | 09:12 |
| spinza | i really can't find that quit message | 09:14 |
| Kilos | never mind i like it | 09:15 |
| spinza | i'm also running it through bip | 09:17 |
| spinza | might be bip | 09:17 |
| Kilos | whatever that is | 09:17 |
| spinza | bip is an irc proxy | 09:18 |
| spinza | ah see that it is bip | 09:18 |
| Kilos | ok | 09:18 |
| charl | good afternoon | 10:07 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 10:07 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 10:07 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:07 |
| charl | hey Kilos | 10:08 |
| charl | how are you doing | 10:08 |
| Kilos | good thanks and you? | 10:08 |
| charl | good good | 10:08 |
| Kilos | you all yankeefied with your hey greeting hey | 10:08 |
| Kilos | too much tv | 10:08 |
| charl | oh, i thought it was international :S | 10:10 |
| charl | people in NL sometimes also say it | 10:10 |
| Kilos | ya they also watch too much tv | 10:11 |
| Kilos | that is ghetto talk | 10:11 |
| Kilos | or was, now many peeps use it | 10:11 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 10:11 |
| charl | no that's more like "hey n*gga, what's up in da hood" | 10:11 |
| charl | in NL we don't talk like that | 10:12 |
| Kilos | thats where it comes from | 10:12 |
| Kilos | we used to say hi or hello or good day or that kinda language | 10:13 |
| Kilos | even bruce willis says it so that how efficient a brainwashing tool tv is | 10:14 |
| charl | yeah it's true | 10:14 |
| charl | bah i missed the meeting yesterday evening | 10:16 |
| charl | i was in rotterdam yesterday | 10:16 |
| Kilos | wasnt much you missed , we seen to have lost something | 10:18 |
| Kilos | voema | 10:19 |
| Kilos | s/seen/seem | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hi psytab | 10:23 |
| psytab | hi Kilos | 10:24 |
| charl | hi psytab | 10:28 |
| psytab | hi charl | 10:28 |
| charl | how are you doing | 10:28 |
| psytab | I am doing fine, thanks | 10:29 |
| psytab | just resting a bit too much, I think | 10:29 |
| psytab | and how are you doing? | 10:29 |
| charl | i'm doing well | 10:29 |
| charl | last week of holiday, last three days now | 10:29 |
| charl | then still the weekend and then it's back to work | 10:29 |
| psytab | oh, but it's good that you have had some time to not think of work | 10:30 |
| charl | i need to set up a second vps somewhere | 10:31 |
| charl | right now i have an account with hetzner but i'm thinking of getting a second vps at tilaa | 10:31 |
| charl | then i have two mx servers, a primary and backup | 10:31 |
| psytab | I don't know either of those | 10:31 |
| charl | right now my mail is hanging off one vps, that's not so good | 10:32 |
| psytab | yeah, good plan | 10:32 |
| charl | hetzner is a german company and tilaa is dutch | 10:32 |
| charl | then i also have it in two countries but that both have low latency from where i live | 10:32 |
| charl | there is also netcup.de but i don't know it very well, looks like a great company though | 10:32 |
| psytab | and they will synchronise between each other? | 10:32 |
| charl | when i (eventually) move to germany i will move from tilaa to netcup perhaps | 10:32 |
| psytab | yeah | 10:33 |
| charl | yeah i can run automated scheduled backups between the two for extra safety | 10:33 |
| charl | synchonise mail every 10 mins or so | 10:33 |
| psytab | germany is still quite a bit cheaper and will stay like that, if the gap isn't already widening now | 10:33 |
| charl | just need to see how to safely synchonise mbox files between two hosts, i'm sure there is plenty done on it in any case | 10:33 |
| psytab | I'm interested in high availability myself, so I would like to figure out how to do real-time synchronisation in two or more locations | 10:35 |
| charl | yeah maybe i go straight to netcup instead | 10:38 |
| psytab | is there a big difference between them or is it just the fact they are in differemt countries? | 10:40 |
| psytab | anyway, I will be back later | 10:41 |
| charl | netcup gives you twice as much as tilaa with one euro difference in cost (in favour of netcup) | 10:42 |
| psytab | back | 11:23 |
| psytab | then I would go for netcup, charl | 11:23 |
| charl | yup | 11:28 |
| charl | sounds like a much better idea | 11:28 |
| Kilos | whew when i dont need help nothing happens here | 15:17 |
| StonedAlchemist | I fell asleep. | 15:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:21 |
| StonedAlchemist | My sleep routine is pretty much polyphasic | 15:22 |
| StonedAlchemist | Not by my own volition tho.. | 15:22 |
| Kilos | Maaz define polyphasic | 15:22 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? | 15:22 |
| StonedAlchemist | Many phases | 15:23 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 15:23 |
| StonedAlchemist | As opposed to the monophasic sleep routine that most humans follow. | 15:23 |
| Kilos | whats the prob? | 15:24 |
| StonedAlchemist | I sleep from 1 am to 5 am then again from 2 pm to 4 pm | 15:24 |
| StonedAlchemist | then some time between 7 pm and 11 pm some times | 15:25 |
| Kilos | because of work? | 15:25 |
| StonedAlchemist | Trouble sleeping and busy schedule. | 15:25 |
| StonedAlchemist | Because of school. | 15:25 |
| Kilos | ok | 15:25 |
| Kilos | i could enjoy sleeping from 7pm till 11.30pm | 15:26 |
| Kilos | then use night surfer at last | 15:26 |
| StonedAlchemist | Lol I used to do that back when I had a 1gb vodacom cap with the night owl thing | 15:28 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:28 |
| Kilos | im not successful though | 15:28 |
| StonedAlchemist | Can't believe there was a time that I used only 1gb in an entire month! | 15:28 |
| StonedAlchemist | Now I use like 5gb pd minimum | 15:28 |
| Kilos | ya times have changed | 15:29 |
| Kilos | i used 500m a months for a long time | 15:29 |
| Kilos | pd =per day? | 15:29 |
| StonedAlchemist | Yeah I suppose back in the dialup days people used a few megabytes a day. | 15:29 |
| Kilos | holy moly | 15:29 |
| StonedAlchemist | yea per day | 15:30 |
| Kilos | what do you do with it? | 15:30 |
| StonedAlchemist | Not that much when I think about it. I download about 2 tv shows (Pirated.. shhh) and watch youtube videos mostly. Reading mail, tweeting, research and all that stuff consumes the minimum. | 15:31 |
| Kilos | ya i dont even use the tube | 15:32 |
| StonedAlchemist | It's my primary source of entertainment. I don't have tv access anymore. Too expensive and boring. I'd rather have fast internet. | 15:34 |
| Kilos | ya i spose with uncapped you dont need a tv | 15:35 |
| StonedAlchemist | uncapped + tpb.. | 15:38 |
| Kilos | tbp? | 15:39 |
| Kilos | tpb | 15:39 |
| StonedAlchemist | the pirate bay | 15:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:39 |
| StonedAlchemist | Aye | 15:40 |
| Kilos | ha remote got him | 15:46 |
| Kilos | wb | 15:48 |
| Kilos | inetpro het jy gaan werk vandag | 16:04 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 16:36 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 16:53 |
| magespawn | again | 16:53 |
| charl | hi magespawn | 16:57 |
| Kilos | hi my magespawn_ | 17:26 |
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| Kilos | with or without tail | 17:26 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos, not staying online tonight | 17:26 |
| Kilos | why? | 17:26 |
| Kilos | oh i see you dropped | 17:27 |
| magespawn | again and again | 17:28 |
| Kilos | run mtr | 17:28 |
| Kilos | or ping | 17:28 |
| Kilos | dunno if you windows peeps can do such things | 17:30 |
| * Kilos hides | 17:30 | |
| StonedAlchemist | Thunderbolt and lightning very very frightening me. | 18:00 |
| StonedAlchemist | Kilos, you here? | 18:03 |
| Kilos | yessir | 18:04 |
| StonedAlchemist | I'm bored out of my skull | 18:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:05 |
| StonedAlchemist | This is usually the time one lights up some of the greens. | 18:05 |
| Kilos | you will get locked up | 18:06 |
| StonedAlchemist | Yeh I know | 18:06 |
| === magespawn_ is now known as magespawn | ||
| StonedAlchemist | Especially here | 18:06 |
| StonedAlchemist | can't do it here | 18:06 |
| Kilos | where is here? | 18:06 |
| StonedAlchemist | College dorm | 18:07 |
| StonedAlchemist | But I'm not as much afraid of being locked up as getting expelled. | 18:07 |
| Kilos | haha ya behave there | 18:07 |
| Kilos | yip dont do stuff that can interfere with your studies | 18:07 |
| StonedAlchemist | Nah actually I perform very well when I'm a bit intoxicated. It clears my mind and helps me focus. | 18:08 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:08 |
| Kilos | thats all in th mind | 18:08 |
| StonedAlchemist | I suppose some of it might be | 18:09 |
| Kilos | when you ar stoned you imagine everything is working so much better | 18:10 |
| Kilos | and when not stoned you try use that as an excuse to get stoned again | 18:10 |
| StonedAlchemist | Well it's a fact. When I'm slightly stoned I can work for much longer periods of time. When I'm not I get bored like I am now. | 18:11 |
| Kilos | so its alowing you to co\ncentrate on one thing at a time | 18:11 |
| StonedAlchemist | Exactly | 18:12 |
| StonedAlchemist | There is a limit however. When I start tripping balls I'll just sit and do nothing. | 18:12 |
| StonedAlchemist | Have you ever done any narcotics? | 18:13 |
| Kilos | its basically doing what your mind can do with out it. you just need to practise on improving your focus | 18:13 |
| StonedAlchemist | Everyone tells me to do more exercise lol | 18:13 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:13 |
| StonedAlchemist | That would mean going into direct sunlight.. | 18:14 |
| Kilos | uvs are good for you | 18:14 |
| Kilos | i spent many yars on the beach | 18:15 |
| Kilos | years | 18:15 |
| StonedAlchemist | Ha ha I have very sensitive skin | 18:15 |
| Kilos | they make strong sun block | 18:15 |
| StonedAlchemist | I use it everyday. | 18:16 |
| Kilos | are you like the english peeps | 18:16 |
| Kilos | that go all pink in the sun | 18:16 |
| StonedAlchemist | My skin just falls off. | 18:17 |
| Kilos | eish | 18:17 |
| Kilos | thats sad | 18:17 |
| StonedAlchemist | Yeh tell me bout it | 18:18 |
| Kilos | then you gotta study hard and long so you can afford your own lab with living quarters | 18:19 |
| Kilos | i dont think there are many live in IT jobs around | 18:19 |
| StonedAlchemist | That's my aim hehe. | 18:19 |
| StonedAlchemist | I though most IT people just sleep under their desks? | 18:20 |
| StonedAlchemist | Or in the server room | 18:20 |
| Kilos | no man they actually get married and have families | 18:20 |
| StonedAlchemist | Or maybe not the server room is too noisy. | 18:20 |
| magespawn | heh sometimes it feels like it | 18:20 |
| magespawn | the server room blocks out all the background noise | 18:20 |
| Kilos | haha magespawn | 18:20 |
| StonedAlchemist | You live in a server room, magespawn ? | 18:21 |
| magespawn | no just feels like it sometimes | 18:21 |
| StonedAlchemist | I've never been in a server room actually. | 18:22 |
| StonedAlchemist | Have you been, Kilos ? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | nope | 18:23 |
| Kilos | but ive seen some nice one | 18:24 |
| StonedAlchemist | They are beautiful. | 18:24 |
| Kilos | you can get Symmetria to show you some pics | 18:24 |
| StonedAlchemist | Much like what I imagine heaven to be like. | 18:24 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:24 |
| charl | i used to work in a server room 10 years ago | 18:28 |
| charl | the noise is so much you really do not want to work in there | 18:28 |
| charl | the extraction fans cause the most auditory pollution | 18:28 |
| StonedAlchemist | Is liquid cooling an option for servers now? | 18:30 |
| Kilos | Symmetria ping | 18:30 |
| Kilos | he is a networking expert StonedAlchemist | 18:30 |
| charl | StonedAlchemist: i think water cooling is simply too costly | 18:37 |
| charl | StonedAlchemist: and you can't really use water for the risk of damage so then you have to use some other liquid | 18:37 |
| StonedAlchemist | I thought that might be the case. | 18:39 |
| charl | well i think a good part of it is that it is tricky to install and maintain | 18:40 |
| charl | that's probably 90% of it | 18:40 |
| Kilos | charl is heat a prob in servers | 18:42 |
| * theblazehen bricked a mobo today :( | 18:43 | |
| theblazehen | and a PSU | 18:43 |
| Kilos | eish theblazehen how | 18:43 |
| Kilos | the new one? | 18:44 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: had to do BIOS update to use new CPU, and it failed | 18:45 |
| theblazehen | And apparently a 10 year old 250W PSU can't run 3 hard drives... | 18:46 |
| Kilos | oh yeah man you should know that | 18:46 |
| Kilos | im using a 500w psu her | 18:46 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: yeah, but I only had extra 250 W with sata power | 18:47 |
| Kilos | but that old one shouldnt even have the corect plugs | 18:47 |
| theblazehen | but got another 350W, so will use molex-> sata converter | 18:47 |
| Kilos | 24 pin i think | 18:47 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: yeah, had the 24 pin, worked fine | 18:47 |
| Kilos | plus the little one that goes near the cpu | 18:47 |
| theblazehen | that was fine, but need my new PSU for new mobo | 18:48 |
| theblazehen | old mobo still has 4 pin | 18:48 |
| Kilos | ya | 18:48 |
| Kilos | always wise when buying motherboards to get updated psu same time | 18:49 |
| Kilos | they are actually quite cheap | 18:49 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: yeah. | 18:50 |
| Kilos | maybe the mobo is still ok | 18:50 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: gonna send it in to replace. | 18:51 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: no way to recover it, bios is dead | 18:51 |
| Kilos | thats one way of doing it | 18:51 |
| theblazehen | unless we swap it with a running machine, and re-flash it | 18:51 |
| Kilos | you can get past that too but serious work | 18:51 |
| Kilos | i still get mails from them flashrom guys | 18:52 |
| Kilos | they are very clever | 18:52 |
| Kilos | flashrom is in ubuntu repos as well | 18:52 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: ah.. I used that on my old board, to add pxe boot for PCIe network card onto bios | 18:52 |
| Kilos | also you can just from another pc download the new firmware and boot from it directly and it installs new bios | 18:53 |
| Kilos | also you can try remove the battery for a long while then boot again | 18:54 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: it doesn't even post, so won't take new firmware on USB, and not gonna try to hot swap the bios with other mobo. Already tried removing battery for >1 hour | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ive had one mobo that was dead as well but it booted to bios when we left the battery out | 18:56 |
| Kilos | eish send for replacement | 18:56 |
| Kilos | how did you manag to mess up the bios | 18:56 |
| theblazehen | Kilos: was doing the bios update, and it said it was successfull, but stopped working after reboot | 18:57 |
| Kilos | wwhy you worry about bios update on a new mobo? | 18:57 |
| StonedAlchemist | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/tree/plugins/elements/gstfilesrc.c?id=RELEASE-0_10_22#n798 | 18:58 |
| theblazehen | nah, like 4 months old. Need support for new CPU on it | 18:59 |
| StonedAlchemist | Comment at line 799 | 18:59 |
| theblazehen | StonedAlchemist: the "read code here"? | 18:59 |
| StonedAlchemist | It's inspiring lol | 18:59 |
| charl | Kilos: heat is a major problem in the data centre, the whole layout of the data centre is made so that heat can be channeled out and cool air in | 19:09 |
| charl | Kilos: that's why they build data centres in places where there is often plenty of natural cooling like near the north pole | 19:09 |
| Kilos | i wonder why they dont use refrigeration system to cool things | 19:09 |
| charl | Kilos: it costs a huge amount of money to keep the servers cool artificially | 19:09 |
| charl | basically it is a huge refrigiration system | 19:10 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 19:10 |
| Kilos | like you can take a freezer room where they hang slaughter animals and make that a server room | 19:11 |
| Kilos | you can set the temp to go to about -40 i think | 19:11 |
| Kilos | then a couple fans should cool down any amount of servers | 19:12 |
| Kilos | actually they first go to cool room for a week or so then those that arent for orders go to freezer | 19:14 |
| magespawn | humidity would have to be controlled if the rooms are very cold | 19:14 |
| Kilos | ya most likely but not impossible | 19:15 |
| Kilos | freezer is basically a large very efficient air conditioner | 19:17 |
| Kilos | without humidity control of course | 19:17 |
| Kilos | might work out rather expensive though | 19:18 |
| magespawn | some input on this idea please | 19:50 |
| magespawn | i want to use ping somewebsite.com > somewebsite.txt to monitor net connectivity, then use an entry in logrotate.conf to rotate the files every 12 hours | 19:52 |
| magespawn | possible? good idea? | 19:52 |
| magespawn | start the ping somewebsite.com > somewebsite.txt command in a screen session, and use logrotate.conf to rotate the somewebsite.txt every 12 or maybe every 6 hours | 19:54 |
| magespawn | is this the best way to do this? most efficient? | 19:55 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 20:00 |
| Kilos | you getting too clever magespawn | 20:00 |
| Kilos | everything so involved | 20:00 |
| superfly | magespawn: you may eventually be blocked by said website for ICMP flooding | 20:03 |
| magespawn | superfly is the sites that you could use for this? or is there a better way? | 20:05 |
| superfly | magespawn: WAYTTD | 20:05 |
| magespawn | i am trying to provide connectivity records to an isp | 20:06 |
| magespawn | the adsl is really bad | 20:07 |
| superfly | ah | 20:07 |
| superfly | I think there are better tools which are actually meant for that sort of thing | 20:07 |
| magespawn | i am open to any ideas or suggestions | 20:10 |
| superfly | I dont' know of any tools offhand, but I'm sure there are monitoring tools you could use. better to monitor the number of errors than how often ping succeeds | 20:11 |
| magespawn | i did find internet connectivity monitor on google code, i think. it is a bit flaky though | 20:16 |
| magespawn | just found this http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/ and i have this installed http://www.cacti.net/ on the one laptop | 20:17 |
| magespawn | have not used cacti yet so this will be a good lesson | 20:20 |
| Kilos | falling asleep here | 20:34 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 20:34 |
| magespawn | i am also off to bed, thanks for the input superfly, got me going in the right direction | 20:43 |
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