[00:00] <erp2themax> urn: I answered without really thinking. I'm not playing it on ubuntu, been playing it on my mac. I should try in ubuntu.
[00:00] <`blahblah3> what is csgo
[00:00] <`blahblah3> what kind of a game is it
[00:02] <erp2themax> Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. First person shooter available through Steam.
[00:02] <urn> erp2themax: haha no prob. I have been waiting for it for awhile on linux :)
[00:02] <erp2themax> urn what graphics card are you using?
[00:02] <erp2themax> Because I need to get a good one one that works in ubuntu
[00:02] <urn> i'm using a ati 6850, it's old :P
[00:03] <`blahblah3> hmmmm
[00:03] <`blahblah3> i got linux i need to learn more about it, seems i read something about steam
[00:04] <erp2themax> `blahblah3: yeah steam has pretty good linux support now, for most of Valve's big-name games anyway
[00:04] <`blahblah3> im basically a beginner with linux
[00:04] <`blahblah3> is it hard to set the games up ?
[00:04] <erp2themax> nope, it's super easy, exactly the same way as if you were using steam on windows or macos
[00:05] <`blahblah3> i never used steam but thats good to know
[00:05] <`blahblah3> my friend at work has been wanting me to play some game called world of tanks i think it is ?
[00:05] <`blahblah3> have you heard of that game
[00:05] <erp2themax> oh ok. what you do is just d/l steam using ubuntu software center, then you search for the game you want and click buy/install
[00:05] <`blahblah3> i always tell him i cant because i have linux
[00:05] <`blahblah3> ok
[00:05] <erp2themax> yeah world of tanks looks fun
[00:05] <`blahblah3> is that on steam ?
[00:06] <erp2themax> I don't think so
[00:06] <`blahblah3> counter strike is free aint it ?
[00:06] <erp2themax> If I remember correctly, you can get world of tanks to run on linux using WINE
[00:06] <`blahblah3> or you gotta buy that one
[00:06] <erp2themax> not free, you have to buy it
[00:06] <`blahblah3> ok
[00:06] <`blahblah3> never used wine
[00:06] <`blahblah3> its basically a windows emulator right
[00:07] <eeee> k1l_: it worked out, thanks :)
[00:07] <erp2themax> not really... "WINE is not an emulator".. acronym W.I.N.E.
[00:07] <`blahblah3> okay
[00:07] <erp2themax> well, it's not "that" kind of emulator :P
[00:07] <erp2themax> it's a compatibility layer
[00:07] <`blahblah3> alright, like i said im kinda dumb to a lot of this
[00:07] <erp2themax> noooo not dumb!
[00:08] <erp2themax> just beginner
[00:08] <erp2themax> and there's nothing wrong with that
[00:08] <erp2themax> welcome, welcome@!
[00:08] <`blahblah3> basically, ive had ubuntu for a few years now
[00:08] <`blahblah3> but all i ever do on the computer is surf the web basically...
[00:08] <erp2themax> makes sense
[00:08] <`blahblah3> so i only try to learn things about it when need be lol
[00:08] <`blahblah3> but id like to get this tank game
[00:09] <`blahblah3> get wine from the software center ?
[00:09] <jishjish> hi all - hi all, i've noticed that when I search in software centre for an app say "shotwell" the software centre can't find it, but when I go in terminal and type "sudo apt-get install shotwell" it installs fine. can someone please explain why software centre and terminal are seeing / able to access different softwares?
[00:09] <eeeeee> `blahblah3: i don't know what's wrong but nautilus-actions hasn't added anything
[00:10] <erp2themax> if u want wine, go the easy way, get playonlinux from the sofware centre
[00:10] <`blahblah3> can i pm you erp2themax ?
[00:10] <erp2themax> it's a front end for wine
[00:10] <erp2themax> yes
[00:10] <`blahblah3> i just seen that! and was wondering if i should get that
[00:10] <`blahblah3> or if i had to get something else and that too lol
[00:12] <erp2themax> if you install just playonlinux, it will install wine automatically since playonlinux depends on wine
[00:14] <jishjish> reason I am asking is I am looking to install kingsoft or wps office 2014
[00:15] <jishjish> ideally i'd like to find it in software centre, or install from terminal
[00:17] <OerHeks> jishjish, it is part of ubuntu kylin, or download the deb from http://wps-community.org/download.html
[00:18] <jishjish> OerHeks: yes, I know I can do that I'm looking to find out why the difference between what ss shows and what terminal lets me install (don't they bothwork off the same ppa (which is basically a pointer to some server from which to download and install software?)
[00:20] <OerHeks> jishjish, it is not part of the standard ubuntu
[00:23] <jishjish> OerHeks --- Yes I know, I'm not asking if it's part of the standard ubuntu I'm asking why can I not find an app in the software centre, but I can still install it in terminal(don't s and terminal need the same repositories aka pointers to servers) to download software)???
[00:25] <OerHeks> softwarecenter and terminal apt-get/dpkg uses the same softwarechannel, yes.
[00:26] <jishjish> OerHeks, thats what I thought, so why will "shotwell" as an example not show up in software-centre but install instantly in terminal?
[00:26] <OerHeks> so if you cannot find it in softwarecenter, terminal won;t either, use the deb from the website or use ubuntu-kylin ( cn)
[00:26] <sosico> hello there
[00:26] <sosico> I'm having problems with unity
[00:26] <sosico> on 14.04
[00:26] <sosico> it's not loading
[00:26] <OerHeks> shotwell is installed standard in 14,04 jishjish
[00:26] <sosico> the launcher and the top panel
[00:27] <sosico> I created another user
[00:27] <sosico> on the machine
[00:27] <sosico> and it loads on the other user
[00:27] <Ben64> sosico: can you use the enter key less
[00:27] <jishjish> Oerheks yes, but it;s not in software centre, (i uninstalled it) and then installed it again via terminal.
[00:27] <rcmaehl> I have a bunch of Ubuntu CDs that aren't labeled. How do I figure out what version and arch they are
[00:27] <OerHeks> rcmaehl, look at the date of files
[00:28] <rcmaehl> OerHeks, wouldn't that just tell me when I burned the files to the CD?
[00:28] <sosico> ben64: ok I will, but do you have any idea what could be the problem?
[00:29] <OerHeks> rcmaehl, see the readme.diskdefines
[00:31] <sosico> anybody has an idea on how can I restore unity launcher and top panel, the screen is blank only with the cursor and the wallpaper..
[00:31] <pennies> hello is anyone around
[00:31] <pennies> i have a question
[00:31] <reisio> pennies: prove it
[00:32] <pennies> !!
[00:32] <reisio> sosico: does ALT+F2 work?
[00:32] <pennies> reisio: i'm new to linux, havent been using it for too long
[00:32] <sosico> let me try that
[00:32] <reisio> pennies: that's not a question :)
[00:32] <pennies> im running an ubuntu VM and i'm trying to run a vpn within the VM
[00:33] <pennies> so my question is how to get a vpn to run on ubuntu, using openvpn or somehting better that u may know
[00:33] <sosico> reisio: no, it doesn't work
[00:33] <reisio> pennies: that's quite a broad question
[00:34] <sosico> pennies: what vpn server do you need to connect to
[00:34] <deadtrance> is this the ubuntu studio chat?
[00:34] <pennies> well i'm not really sure what the best way would be
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: you could try CTRL+ALT+F2, then running things like DISPLAY=:0 nohup unity-something &> /dev/null &
[00:34] <sosico> cisco? openvpn?
[00:34] <pennies> i dont have a vpn server i would have to host one or use something else
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: actually make it DISPLAY=:0 nohup gnome-terminal &> /dev/null &
[00:34] <pennies> i'm just wondering what the best way would be, seeing as i dont want to use a vps or something like that
[00:34] <reisio> sosico: you can do anything with a term
[00:34] <pennies> from within a VM
[00:34] <reisio> deadtrance: /msg alis list *ubunt*stud*
[00:35] <deadtrance> i dont understand
[00:35] <sosico> pennies: take  a look at this url http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-cisco-vpn-client-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[00:36] <sosico> reisio: I have created another user on the machine, on this user unity loads, on the previous user it does not.
[00:36] <pennies> thanks for this i will give it a try
[00:36] <sosico> reisio: I know how to open a terminal , the problem is that unity does not load after I logging , does not normally open
[00:38] <squinty> sosby:  couple of things you may want to try     restart unity with:  setsid unity     and  restart unity-panel-service
[00:38] <reisio> sosico: ^
[00:38] <sosico> ?
[00:38] <spearhead> sosico, you can access a command line via ctrl+alt+F2
[00:40] <sosico> spearhead: yes, I have done that, and then I export DISPLAY=:0 and execute terminal
[00:43] <felty> hoo hoo
[00:43] <felty> hell yeah
[00:45] <Guest67617> hola
[00:47] <reisio> Guest67617: shalom :) /nick spanishguy
[00:48] <maxvi> which program I can draw some schema with tree data?
[00:49] <baako> hi guys how do i create a new user account.
[00:49] <baako> I wann ause this user for everyday use
[00:50] <zbert> l
[00:50]  * zbert 
[00:50]  * zskelton 
[00:51] <Bashing-om> baako: see: "man adduse"r from terminal.
[00:51] <eeee> baako: sudo useradd -m <user>
[00:51] <Bashing-om> "adduser"*
[00:51] <squinty> baako:  in terminal you can use    adduser   (adduser -h for help)  or in System Settings > Users and Groups (or similar)
[00:52]  * zskelton 
[00:52] <eeee> baako: sudo passwd <user> , to set the password
[00:53] <explodes> Is it true that to migrate my current HDD to an SSD, I can just "sudo cp -ax /media/hdd /media/ssd" and reinstall grub and it'll just pretend like nothing ever happened?
[00:53] <explodes> (From a Live Disk anyway)
[00:53] <explodes> Seems like black magic to me.
[00:53] <reisio> explodes: something like that, yes
[00:53] <explodes> c00l
[00:53] <reisio> it's simple when your OS isn't trying to get you to buy another copy
[00:53] <daftykins> explodes: clonezilla will also be a nice choice
[00:53] <explodes> Heh.
[00:54] <baako> sudo useradd -m Baako  <--- to add user ->>> and sudo passwd Baako <--- to add password--->
[00:54] <reisio> no, clonezilla is silly
[00:54] <explodes> K. BRB Gonna buy an SSD...
[00:54] <reisio> explodes: hahha
[00:54] <daftykins> why silly?
[00:54] <explodes> reisio: whuts so funny man
[00:54] <baako> right?
[00:54] <explodes> what* sorry
[00:54] <reisio> explodes: oh you were serious :P
[00:54] <explodes> reisio: heh, yea...
[00:55] <explodes> my new PC could be a LOT faster me thinks
[00:55] <reisio> explodes: just remember to disconnect the old drive before reinstallin grub/booting
[00:55] <explodes> why's that?
[00:56] <explodes> if I just dd that bitch, is that cool?
[00:56] <reisio> no
[00:56] <reisio> that's silly :p
[00:56] <explodes> So, do you mean just physically disconnect it? I don't understand
[00:57] <reisio> explodes: just consider the orde
[00:57] <reisio> order*
[00:57] <reisio> grub likes to install to the first device
[00:57] <reisio> just keep it in mind :)
[00:57] <explodes> grub-install /dev/ssd
[00:57] <reisio> you also don't want two discs with duplicate filesystems, with the same UUIDs
[00:58] <reisio> you don't want to confuse rub or fstab
[00:58] <explodes> Right right ok
[00:58] <reisio> confuse grub*
[00:58]  * reisio fixes keyboard position
[00:58] <explodes> brb buying a thing.
[00:58] <reisio> nothing dangerous, but it'd delay your bootup a few minutes before you fix it
[00:58] <explodes> wait, my current drive bays have a factor of 3.5" but most SSDs are 2.5" or something different. What do you do about that?
[00:58] <Bashing-om> explodes: Also, /etc/fstab - UUIDs will have to be edited to relect the SSD rather then the HD .
[00:59] <baako> adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
[00:59] <baako> via the NAME_REGEX[_SYSTEM] configuration variable.  Use the `--force-badname'
[00:59] <baako> option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
[00:59] <baako> what does that mean?
[00:59] <explodes> Bashing-om: kk, this guys says to do this to fix that "$ grub-install --recheck /dev/ssd"
[00:59] <explodes> as per http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd
[00:59] <eeee> baako: means you're using a bad user name
[00:59] <Bashing-om> ex
[00:59] <explodes> yes?
[01:01] <baako> i have created it thanks
[01:01] <baako> will a standard user account type has access to var/www ?
[01:01] <Bashing-om> explodes: Well, that will fix the UUIDs for frub, but not for what the system mounts for the 'root' partition. ( nother reason to disconnect the hd ) .
[01:01] <explodes> ok...
[01:01] <eeee> baako: i dont think so
[01:01] <Bashing-om> frub/grub*
[01:01] <explodes> Wait, is the difference between HDD and SSD really worth it?
[01:01] <explodes> Is it like night and day?
[01:02] <explodes> ..I imagine it is, but I don't want to be all disappointed
[01:02] <baako> eeee how can i give him permission to that directory?
[01:02] <Bashing-om> explodes: I have seen where those who have made the switch are impressed.
[01:02] <explodes> k
[01:02] <bashfr3ak> explodes It is a pretty massive difference
[01:02] <baako> brb let me log into this new user account and see
[01:03] <explodes> alright. brb.
[01:03] <felty> yo
[01:03] <bashfr3ak> faster file transfer rate stuff
[01:03] <OerHeks> not the transferrate, but 0 seektime is improving performance
[01:06] <felty> It's morning here
[01:06] <felty> :)
[01:10] <Baako2> guys should i install LAMP as shown here https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[01:13] <erp2themaxx> Baako2: yeah that's a good guide
[01:14] <OerHeks> Baako2, good start, use the official manual too https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/ and read more about securing http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-secure-ubuntu-1204-lts-server-part-1-basics
[01:14] <Baako2> i cant install this as a normal user
[01:15] <OerHeks> Baako2, that is right, you need to have admin priv = root
[01:15] <baako> okay am here
[01:16] <baako> on the adm account
[01:16] <felty> anyone have problem with laptop lid closing and suspend?
[01:17] <baako> the ubuntu documentation says to install tasksel
[01:17] <reisio> felty: problem?
[01:17] <baako> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/lamp-overview.html
[01:18] <baako> am goign to follow https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[01:18] <baako> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to extras.ubuntu.com:http:
[01:18] <reisio> you really shouldn't need some 3rd party blog to install that
[01:19] <baako> how to i fix it pleaase
[01:19] <baako> reisio are you talking to me?
[01:20] <baako> am off to bed guys got work in the morning
[01:21] <reisio> yup
[01:21] <reisio> bye
[01:22] <punkunity> anyone know of a good audio enhancement program similar to Viper4Android or Viper4Windows thats free for linux?
[01:22] <punkunity> without using broke ass wine
[01:28] <Guest9812> dudes is this good? http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr
[01:29] <OerHeks> Guest9812, any PPA is at your own risc, not supported here, but can be fun
[01:30] <Guest9812> i know nothing... can u make a suggestion?
[01:30] <Ben64> Guest9812: you probably shouldn't do a bunch of stuff because a website told you to
[01:30] <Guest9812> i get this error about sudoers o something...
[01:31] <Guest9812> that's why i'm here
[01:34] <Guest9812> well, come on, ubuntu is blinking an eye to non open software, so how can i install the commerciall codecs?
[01:34] <Guest9812> b real
[01:34] <Ben64> Guest9812: what are you talking about
[01:35] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[01:35] <Guest9812> oh come on
[01:36] <OerHeks> i think he is singing with the radio, Ben64
[01:37] <OerHeks> !info pykaraoke
[01:38] <Guest9812> u know it's just not worth it
[01:38] <somsip> Guest9812: there's no need to add the PPAs on here unless you really need them. And we wouldn't recommend using PPAs. Everything else is personal choice. The webpage seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut that does not need cracking
[01:38] <Ben64> Guest9812: ask an actual question and you'll get an answer, you just keep making random remarks
[01:38] <somsip> Guest9812: *"here" meaning the link you gave
[01:38] <OerHeks> maybe the worst "things to do after install 14.04' i have seen indeed
[01:38] <somsip> OerHeks: pretty shocking isn't it
[01:39] <somsip> OerHeks: the list on "These instructions presume..." is a bit silly
[01:41] <OerHeks> this one is also full of ppa's > http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html , just start with restricted extras, videodriver-tool and updates, amd explore softwarecenter first
[01:41] <explodes> 250GB SSD GET
[01:41] <Guest9812> ubuntu is like a bisexual
[01:41] <Guest9812> i do thiw and that
[01:41] <somsip> Guest9812: and now you've proved who you really are
[01:42] <Guest9812> right, i don't have a problem with that
[01:42] <Guest9812> hiding it is the worst
[01:42] <Ben64> Guest9812: well this channel is for ubuntu support only. take whatever it is you're doing here somewhere else
[01:43] <Guest9812> for ubuntu support--> future money
[01:43] <Guest9812> ok
[01:46] <rootbox`mbp> Hello guys
[01:47] <KP34> Evening
[01:47] <rootbox`mbp> morning
[01:47] <ahklerner> hi
[01:49] <lotuspsychje> for those who are interested: developers have released a new RTM of ubuntu touch, for more info join #ubuntu-touch
[01:50] <explodes> I'm copying my HDD to an SSD, what partition table type should I put on the SSD?
[01:50] <explodes> Is MSDOS chill
[01:51] <TomBrady> !ops | stop sinning now
[01:51] <lotuspsychje> explodes: did you set ide to ahci in bios?
[01:52] <explodes> lotuspsychje: negative
[01:52] <KP34> !ops
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> explodes: i would recommend a clean install of ubuntu on your ssd
[01:52] <phunyguy> ..... realy?
[01:52] <phunyguy> really*
[01:52] <explodes> lotuspsychje: since i'm trying this first, what partition type would you have me do
[01:52] <phunyguy> the first !ops call didn't get everyone's attention?  Come on guys.... lol
[01:53] <KP34> !ops
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> explodes: the partition that ubuntu setup chooses, will work nicely
[01:53] <erp2themaxx> I don't get what that's for
[01:53] <explodes> lotuspsychje: thanks but no thanks
[01:53] <explodes> Like I said, I'm trying this first, if you don't know just let me know
[01:54] <Ben64> explodes: you should set it to ahci before you do anything else
[01:57] <explodes> check
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> explodes: after installing ubuntu on your ssd, there are some nice tweaks you can try
[01:58] <explodes> i'm not installing, i'm copying
[01:58] <explodes> http://askubuntu.com/questions/40372/how-to-move-ubuntu-to-an-ssd
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> explodes: wich version are you copying?
[01:59] <explodes> 14.04
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> explodes: well everyone is free to choose howto, but i would do it this way
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> would not
[02:00] <explodes> I'm cool for losing data, I just want to TRY the easy way first
[02:01] <explodes> It will save me a LOT of downloading if it works, at the risk of losing 2 hours trying it out
[02:01] <SchrodingersScat> explodes: how are you copying it?
[02:01] <explodes> sudo cp -ax /media/hd /media/ssd, then some grub stuff
[02:02] <lotuspsychje> explodes: ive installed 14.04 64bit on samsung evo 840 120gig in 10min... that was as easy as it gets
[02:02] <explodes> thats the drive i have
[02:02] <explodes> except mine is bigger :P
[02:03] <explodes> Yea, screw it. I might as well start from scratch
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> explodes: nothing like a good clean setup :p
[02:03] <explodes> Should I use gparted to nuke the original drive first to avoid confusion during boot?
[02:03] <eeee> if you want to install the same packages you have it's pretty easy
[02:03] <explodes> except this setup is only 2 days old anyway
[02:03] <eeee> ( @ explodes )
[02:03] <explodes> But, should I nuke my original HDD
[02:04] <explodes> ... its nuked
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> explodes: will you use it as 2nd hd in your machine?
[02:04] <openCholby> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:04] <explodes> yea yea
[02:04] <explodes> I will
[02:05] <explodes> can I put a RAID configuration on a 3TB and a 2TB?
[02:05] <explodes> I really don't need 5TB for BS
[02:05] <explodes> But do those drives have to be the same size, I mean?
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> !raid | explodes
[02:06] <explodes> Gonna use hardware raid..
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> and you don't even know if the copy worked?
[02:07] <explodes> I'm starting fresh
[02:07] <boh> Hi, does anyone know of an stock management program with checkout and / or billing system. It should be very easy to use, OpenERP is just too much.
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> boh: apt-cache search show few, openerp and smtm
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> boh: maybe more luck on software centre 'stock' ?
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> !info dollibarr | boh how about this
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> !info dolibarr
[02:14]  * user4 ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.1 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 中文 ** CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G645 @ 2.90GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3913 MB Total (1808 MB Free) ** VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics ** Uptime: 48.82 Hours **
[02:15] <sudoritz> anyone know to create quick dummy process
[02:15] <sudoritz> as SymAutoProtect
[02:16] <sudoritz> need to fake that symantenc is running
[02:16] <boh> Thanks ... :)
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> idk, you can name a script whatever you want, #!/bin/bash ; while true ; do sleep 3 ; done
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> sounds like an odd thing to do though..
[02:19] <jdecuirm_> Hi!! is there any way to configure correctly the sound of Kubuntu?! meaning that, sound like dirty the audio output!
[02:21] <lotuspsychje> !sound | jdecuirm_
[02:21] <fendermaniac> Hello
[02:21] <phunyguy> user4: please don't use scripts in here
[02:22] <fendermaniac> Trying to get Ubuntu running on VirtualBox, but after a successful install, Virtualbox shuts down when i try to restart the machine
[02:22] <fendermaniac> has anyone had this kind of issue with windows 8?
[02:22] <fendermaniac> i'm using Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[02:22] <phunyguy> fendermaniac: sounds an awful lot like a Windows 8/Virtualbox issue, not Ubuntu.
[02:23] <fendermaniac> I kind of figured
[02:23] <phunyguy> sorry bud
[02:23] <fendermaniac> I've installed Ubuntu as a dual boot on windows 7 and then again on virtualbox like 3 years ago, thought it would be just as easy :(
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> fendermaniac: maybe you can reverse, install ubuntu 14.04 and install virtualbox with windows if you like
[02:24] <fendermaniac> maybe
[02:24] <reisio> fendermaniac: vbox version?
[02:24] <fendermaniac> but wouldn
[02:24] <fendermaniac> tried the latest version 4.3.15
[02:25] <fendermaniac> then tried 4.3.12
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox
[02:25] <reisio> lotuspsychje: what arch is the guest?
[02:26] <fendermaniac> with 4.3.15 it seems to properly install, but then when I restart it all I get is the purple screen and pointer
[02:26] <reisio> okay, well that's a different problem
[02:26] <reisio> a better one
[02:26] <fendermaniac> well that's good to hear
[02:27] <fendermaniac> i think I got some sort of internal error, but didn't get a chance to take a snapshot
[02:30] <boh> Thank you! Dilobarr seems to be the right tool.
[02:32] <reisio> dolibarr?
[02:33] <ObrienDave> typonese ;P
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> reisio: i suggested dolibarr as stock management package
[02:35] <naqR0M> partydome is back up irc.partydome.us #party
[02:38] <willwh> wtf is partydome ;x
[02:40] <pzp> Hey
[02:41] <pzp> Need some quick help transferring files from a VM running Ubuntu Server 12.04.5 to a thumb drive
[02:49] <chaotix> hey heyyy
[02:49] <chaotix> i am looking for a download for ubuntu mate remix 14.04, but not alpha or beta
[02:49] <chaotix> and i am having trouble finding it on google
[02:49] <somsip> chaotix: I believe mate is fully supported in 14.10
[02:50] <chaotix> is there an ubuntu 14.04 mate image?
[02:50] <usr13> pzp: What do you need?  cp ?
[02:50] <somsip> chaotix: no. You can install only from a PPA for 14.04. Not recommended http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/install-mate-desktop-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[02:50] <chaotix> ok thanks
[02:51] <chaotix> i saw ubuntu-mate, but thats 14.10
[02:51] <usr13> pzp: cp /home/pzp/Documents /media/disk/something-r-other
[02:51] <pzp> usr13: I have Ubuntu Server running in a VirtualBox VM and I need to transfer some file from it to the Host (OS X 10.8.5)
[02:51] <chaotix> and i like to wait a few months for the bugs to work out of a new release
[02:51] <pzp> usr13: Since it has limited capabilities, I think using a thumb drive would be the least invasive method
[02:51] <usr13> pzp: There is file-sharing provision in V-Box
[02:51] <somsip> chaotix: sounds like 14.10 might be better for you then
[02:52] <usr13> pzp: So use it.
[02:52] <pzp> usr13: But it requires the installation of something called Guest Additions
[02:52] <usr13> pzp: Oh yea. So install it.
[02:52] <pzp> usr13: Not so simple
[02:52] <usr13> pzp:
[02:52] <pzp> I don't have internet access in the VM, and it has certain dependancies that I would have to install in order to build it
[02:53] <pzp> so apt-get is out of the question
[02:53] <chaotix> somsip: you think?  why is that?
[02:53] <usr13> pzp: Yea, that *is* a problem.
[02:53] <pzp> usr13: My issue with the thumb drive last time was not the cp command, but apparently I mounted it with only read access
[02:54] <somsip> chaotix: you said you dont want alpha or beta. You said you can wait. So PPA does not fit what you are saying, but official release does. Still, your call
[02:54] <usr13> pzp: So, why do you not have internet?
[02:54] <pzp> So I guess I could use some help using that command
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: It's not set up in that VM
[02:54] <chaotix> somsip: thanks for the tips
[02:54] <usr13> pzp: I can tell you how to mount a USB device rw
[02:54] <somsip> chaotix: np
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: This is also a forensics challenge, so i don't want to tamper around too much in the VM itself
[02:54] <chaotix> i think i will just wait then...  i may try out mint 17 mate for now i guess
[02:54] <chaotix> i prefer ubuntu to mint, though
[02:54] <pzp> usr13: That would be much apprecitaed
[02:55] <chaotix> thanks guys
[02:55] <chaotix> g2g
[02:55] <chaotix> thanks somsip
[02:55] <chaotix> bye
[02:55] <zumba_addict> hey folks, this doesn't work
[02:55] <zumba_addict> sudo service mysql stop
[02:55] <zumba_addict> it's giving me, stop: unknown instance
[02:56] <somsip> zumba_addict: it means it's not running
[02:56] <zumba_addict> it's running
[02:56] <zumba_addict> i can see it with ps
[02:56] <zumba_addict>  9657 ?        Sl    36:04 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --plugin-dir=/usr/lib/mysql/plugin --log-error=/var/log/mysql/error.log --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306
[02:56] <usr13> pzp: Where are you mounting it?
[02:56] <pzp> usr13: I guess in /mnt if that's okay
[02:57] <somsip> zumba_addict: doesn't look like that was started from 'sudo service' maybe that's why?
[02:57] <usr13> pzp: It goes pretty much like this:  mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick
[02:57] <zumba_addict> ok
[02:57] <zumba_addict> i'll use killall
[02:57] <usr13> pzp: Where /mnt/memstick is the actual mount point and where /dev/sda# is the actual drive
[02:57] <zumba_addict> where can i find startup script in ubuntu
[02:58] <zumba_addict> i don't see rc.d
[02:58] <pzp> usr13: Does there have to be a memstick dir?
[02:58] <somsip> zumba_addict: /etc/init.d/mysql
[02:58] <pzp> or will it mk it for me
[02:58] <zumba_addict> cool
[02:58] <zumba_addict> successful
[02:58] <zumba_addict> :)
[02:59] <zumba_addict> now how do I prevent it from starting when this machien gets rebooted
[02:59] <zumba_addict> in redhat, I use chkconfig
[02:59] <usr13> pzp: My example was hypothetical
[03:00] <usr13> pzp: But will work if it exists.
[03:00] <keith_> Can I run any program designed for linux in ubuntu or should i get that gpartition thing?
[03:00] <pzp> usr13: I can't make /mnt itself the mount point?
[03:00] <zumba_addict> is this it? sudo update-rc.d -f <service name> disable
[03:00] <somsip> zumba_addict: looks helpful http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[03:00] <usr13> pzp:  Yes, but you can also just create /mnt/memstick  (sudo mkdir /mnt/memstick )
[03:00] <usr13> pzp: But it is up to you.
[03:01] <pzp> usr13: Got an error: You must specify the filesystem type
[03:01] <usr13> pzp: sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt  or sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick/
[03:02] <usr13> pzp: sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sda# /mnt  or sudo mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/sda# /mnt/memstick/
[03:02] <keith_> join #cahnnel
[03:02] <pzp> usr13: Apparently /mnt is itself read only...
[03:03] <keith_> #thing
[03:03] <usr13> pzp: Really?
[03:03] <usr13> pzp: ls -ld /mnt
[03:04] <usr13> keith_: Try a front slash
[03:05] <zumba_addict> how do i know if our ubuntu is using Upstart?
[03:05] <pzp> usr13: drwxrwxr-x 1 99 99 11 Sep 21 17:33 /mnt
[03:05] <pzp> that was the output of ls -ld /mnt
[03:05] <zumba_addict> i wanted to know if this will work for our ubuntu, sudo echo "manual" >> /etc/init/mysql.override
[03:06] <zumba_addict> i'm sure the command will execute fine but will it disable mysql from starting during the next reboot
[03:06] <usr13> pzp: Ok, so your assumption was incorrect.
[03:08] <pzp> usr13: It's not an assumption… http://i.imgur.com/jmY52rg.png
[03:09] <usr13> pzp: It was already mounted.  SO remount it.
[03:10] <usr13> sudo mount -t vfat -o remount,rw /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[03:10] <usr13> pzp: (and again, your assumption was incorrect)
[03:13] <dotnetted> hey all - I was trying to free up some space on /boot by removing an old kernel image using "apt-get -y purge some-old-kernel" --- It looks like grub failed to update something properly and now I get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of none." when attempting to run "apt-get autoremove" -- why might this be? (the only thing I have marked as "none" in my fstab is a swap partition)
[03:14] <dotnetted> (I'm on 13.10 and was prepping for a 14.04 upgrade)
[03:14] <pzp> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/ud82vlq.png
[03:14] <pzp> Got a different error this time
[03:15] <usr13> dotnetted: uname -a  #What kernel do you have?
[03:15] <dotnetted> usr13: 3.11.0-19-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 11 18:48:34 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:15] <dotnetted> (I made sure not to remove the current kernel :) )
[03:16] <usr13> pzp: sudo fdisk -l   #Let's see what filesystem(s) you have.
[03:17] <usr13> dotnetted: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list  | pastebinit  #Send URL
[03:17] <_unreal_> pzp are you running a mac? or vnc?
[03:17] <_unreal_> vm
[03:17] <rww> dotnetted: are you running on normal bare-metal hardware, or in a container/vps/vm/etc.?
[03:18] <dotnetted> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415155/
[03:18] <pzp> usr13: http://i.imgur.com/wApeMkg.png here you go
[03:18] <dotnetted> rww: bare-metal
[03:18] <pzp> sorry for giving you images btw… i just can't copy and paste between the Guest and the Host, and it's a lot of output to have to type
[03:18] <eeee> pzp: run this sudo parted -l
[03:19] <pzp> _unreal_: The host is running OS X 10.8.5 the Guest is running Ubuntu Server 12.04.5
[03:20] <pzp> eeee: http://i.imgur.com/XLE6mxp.png
[03:20] <eeee> pzp: ok the filesystem is hfs+
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: So what should my mount command look like then?
[03:21] <eeee> has to do with mac apparently
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: I can reformat the thumb drive really fast
[03:21] <pzp> eeee: it should be FAT32?
[03:22] <eeee> http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[03:22] <eeee> you'll need to tinker around abit
[03:22] <eeee> pzp: format it to ext4
[03:22] <pzp> eeee: Only issue is if Mac can read ext4...
[03:23] <eeee> ok ntfs or fat32 then
[03:23] <SthNotTaken> I am using youtube-dl and it downloads something to the same folder. The filename is very long. I'd like to somehow automatically rename it to a shorter name. (Defcon\ 21\ -\ All\ Your\ RFz\ Are\ Belong\ to\ Me\ -\ Hacking\ the\ Wireless\ World\ with\ Software\ Defined\ Radio-ZuNOD3XWp4A.mp4)
[03:23] <eeee> keep in mind fat32 files can't be larger than 4gb
[03:24] <usr13> dotnetted:  Looks like you still have the kernel installed, (the one that is running now is still installed).  Right?
[03:24] <dotnetted> fstab if it helps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415187/
[03:24] <SthNotTaken> I'd like to see about breakign this file into smaller, 1mb parts.
[03:25] <SthNotTaken> how to deal with unwieldy filenames?
[03:25] <dotnetted> usr13: the current kernel shows up in the [ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list] (if that counts as installed)
[03:25] <usr13> dotnetted: Yes it does.
[03:25] <SthNotTaken> any other way to select files in dir?
[03:27] <Py331> I just installed Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS from USB and I'm getting a kernel panic not syncing. no init. Any ideas? I've googled but haven't found anything that helped. I just did a normal install.
[03:27] <dotnetted> I'm out of my depth here but am i right in thinking that apt-get purge on the old images failed to complete because grub was unable to update its config (leaving me in a half uninstalled state for those old kernels)?
[03:28] <Py331> dotnetted: are you talking to me? I'm thinking the same issue
[03:28] <pzp> eeee: Converted the drive to exFAT and I'm still getting the same error
[03:28] <dotnetted> Py331: sorry I wasn't
[03:29] <usr13> SthNotTaken: Why would you want to break up a file?
[03:29] <eeee> pzp: why exfat?
[03:29] <eeee> pzp: try ntfs
[03:29] <pzp> eeee: it had the ex part lol
[03:29] <SthNotTaken> usr13: Youtube is blocked here, connection is out 1 minute every 30
[03:30] <pzp> eeee: Not an option
[03:30] <eeee> i think you need exfat-utils and exfat-fuse to use them
[03:30] <pzp> Why is this so complicated!
[03:30] <pzp> lol
[03:31] <samthewildone> !java
[03:32] <dotnetted> usr13: do you think I'm safe rebooting with this error or is there a chance my grub is dangerously messed up? I can't do-release-upgrade with this problem since the upgrade process will attempt to clean up these old kernels and fail with the grub-probe error
[03:34] <usr13> SthNotTaken: you might need a vpn, but ask another, I have to go now.
[03:35] <usr13> dotnetted: I don't know.  Sorry.  (My brain is fried, must sleep.)  sudo apt-get install night-time && sleep && zzzzzz
[03:35] <dotnetted> usr13: thanks for your time - night
[03:37] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: Maybe check; the 4 symlinks in "ls -al /" correspond to vmlinuz and initrd.img in " ls -al /boot ??
[03:40] <eeee> dotnetted: when you run autoremove what is being removed?
[03:40] <eeee> and the none in your fstab relates to the type of the partition
[03:40] <eeee> if you type df , you'll see none mounted
[03:40] <eeee> ( or should see )
[03:42] <dotnetted> eeee: checking
[03:42] <eeee> that failed to get canonical path error happens sometimes when trying to reinstall grub on a chrooted install, without mount -B the /dev /dev/pts ..etc. filesystems
[03:42] <eeee> *without doing
[03:43] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: the symlinks match
[03:43] <henesy> No idea if this is the right place to ask about it, but a quick question about GPT and hard drives if appropriate
[03:44] <dotnetted> eeee: df : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415277/
[03:44] <natty> hi ya
[03:45] <dotnetted> eee: and autoremove is trying to remove "linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic"
[03:45] <Iceitic_> That might be okay, no?
[03:46] <Iceitic_> I actually worry autoremove is going to basically wipe my system as well. It's only supposed to remove things that were downloaded as a dependency for some other software that has since been removed, right?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: OK, can't be too bad then .. what returns " dpkg -l | grep linux-" let's have a look at what kernels are still installed.
[03:46] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415155/
[03:46] <dotnetted> oops sorry sec
[03:47] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415284/ << correct one
[03:49] <Zimmz> I have a general question. I am using 12.10 but its obsolete now. Should I go for 12.04 or is 14.04 good to move to? Does 14.04 have any bugs?
[03:49] <dotnetted> Am I right in thinking this might not be related to the removal of the old kernel at all? I havn't run grub-update in forever and this kernel removal needs to update grub - maybe grub just doesn't like my fstab or something
[03:51] <dotnetted> ( by "not related" I mean the cause of the error is not related to the kernel removal -- but the kernel removal won't work until grub is fixed up )
[03:51] <tmager> Zimmz: I generally move to the most recent releases when they come out -- as long as you don't get them right after the release, for the most part they aren't very buggy I don't find.
[03:52] <henesy> So with a GPT I am limited to 4 "primary" or is it "bootable" partitions? I recently had to repair my EFI on this computer due to adding a bootable partition, but I have 7 partitions as it stands. Would adding another partition and just not adding a bootloader/boot flag to the partition break it again, or would the problem arise again due to some other weird factor I'm missing?
[03:52] <Zimmz> TMAGER: So I should move to 14.04
[03:54] <tmager> Zimmz: I would say so, but that's just my take.  I don't see any particular advantage in staying with the older releases once the new ones have been out long enough that most of the bugs have been worked out of them.  On a totally unrelated note, does my user ID really come out as all caps when I use this client?
[03:54] <eeee> dotnetted: update-grub
[03:54] <eeee> dotnetted: try that and see what errors you get
[03:54] <dotnetted> eee: gives me: "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of none."
[03:55] <dotnetted> Ill get the correct number of e's in your name eventually :)
[03:56] <Zimmz> TMAGER: nopes. its not in caps. its in all small letters. thats just my way of writing TMAGER :p
[03:56] <SthNotTaken> How to install 7zip on 14.04 by terminal?
[03:56] <felty> hey
[03:56] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee ::I do not see how grub and fstab can be related. But, we do need to fix the /boot directory and get grub updateing. What is the vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old symlinks pointing to ?// on your df output; is that with the change root in effect ?
[03:56] <felty> how can i use LISP in ubuntu?
[03:57] <tmager> Zimmz: ok, thanks -- the Pidgin client seems to act a little wonky sometimes
[03:58] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: symlinks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415332/
[03:58] <Penguiness> Any gurus here?
[03:58] <Penguiness> I'm trying to mount an xraid from a dead readynas
[03:59] <tmager> SthNotTaken: I think the package is called p7zip-full, so do sudo apt-get install p7zip-full -- alternatively try running 7zip in the terminal and seeing what package it recommends
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> tmager: I'm using it now.
[03:59] <xangua> !info p7zip-full | SthNotTaken
[03:59] <felty> does anyone know how to use LISP in ubuntu?
[03:59] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: not sure what you mean in regards to the "df" change root being in effect though
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[03:59] <SthNotTaken> and I'm reading this to figure out how to use it: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/7z.1.html
[04:00] <eeee> Bashing-om: yes i agree fstab is unrelated, i was pointing out that the none in fstab is an option thats all
[04:00] <SthNotTaken> v{Size}[b|k|m|g] Create volumes means "break it into pieces" ?
[04:00] <eeee> dotnetted: paste bin /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:01] <felty> anyone know how to programming LISP in Ubuntu?
[04:01] <dotnetted> eeee: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415348/
[04:02] <somsip> !find lisp | felty
[04:02] <ITChap> Hi everyone
[04:02] <reisio> SthNotTaken: what're you 7z'ing for?
[04:02] <reisio> ITChap: hi
[04:02] <SthNotTaken> reisio: I need to break a 600mb file down to 10mb volumes.
[04:02] <SthNotTaken> 7z a -v{10}m, I think
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: split -b 10M
[04:03] <SthNotTaken> I also need to put a password on it
[04:03] <felty> how to find lisp?
[04:03] <felty> iti down's work in terminal
[04:03] <reisio> or -b 10m, at least
[04:03] <dotnetted> eeee: so it looks like the 3.8.0-35 menu entry shouldn't be in there - just cant get grub-update to run to remove it heh
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: ah
[04:03] <eeee> yeah your current kernel is there though
[04:03] <reisio> SthNotTaken: 7z a -mx=0 -mhe=on -v10m -p foo.7z file
[04:04] <eeee> is the 3.8.0-35 still installed?
[04:04] <dotnetted> eeee: yep - have no problems with current kernel -- but I can't do-release-upgrade with grub-update failing to run
[04:04] <Zimmz> This is a good source of Ubuntu 14.04 http://howtoubuntu.org/things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr#partners
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> what is mx=0?
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> and -mhe=on?
[04:04] <reisio> SthNotTaken: no compression
[04:04] <reisio> SthNotTaken: encrypt TOC also
[04:04] <dotnetted> eeee: Package: linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic State: partially installed
[04:04] <SthNotTaken> where did you find those 2 switches?
[04:05] <reisio> lotuspsychje: stock management, interesting...
[04:05] <reisio> SthNotTaken: they're in man 7z somewhere
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> WHOA
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> That's an awesome command
[04:05] <SthNotTaken> thanks
[04:05] <reisio> that's how I always use 7z
[04:05] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic
[04:05] <reisio> better things for compression, so -mx=0
[04:06] <reisio> -mhe=on is something anyone would want with -p if they knew about it
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> -pHUNTER2 foo.7z file
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> right?
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: you could :p but
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: if you just do -p it prompts you for a pass
[04:06] <reisio> and you don't have to store it in your shell history
[04:06] <reisio> or show it on your screen
[04:06] <dotnetted> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415380/ -- same error
[04:06] <nonicknotheodore> wow ubuntu is great! just installed it and i get a 1 click restricted extras!!!
[04:06] <SthNotTaken> later I will do this with exec() from PHP
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: okay :p
[04:06] <sing> Hi, I can't find the package for "prlimit" on ubuntu, it should be in util-linux but it's not there
[04:06] <reisio> SthNotTaken: could potentially use openssl more simply for encryption, from php
[04:07] <SthNotTaken> reisio: not an option for me
[04:07] <reisio> SthNotTaken: fair enough
[04:07] <SthNotTaken> Thanks for understanding. I'm winded from explaining myself 4x over
[04:08] <eeee> dotnetted: i'd try to restart the pc, but that's me, and assuming you have a liveusb if it doesn't boot again
[04:08] <dotnetted> eeee: it's a remotely hosted production server :(
[04:08] <nonicknotheodore> is there a way to get to nasa with a click?
[04:08] <dotnetted> and the IPMI console is broken until it restarts heh (which it may not)
[04:09] <SthNotTaken> Is there a way to select all of the files which start with "foo" in the current directory?
[04:10] <nonicknotheodore> oh no, that's "linux" right?
[04:10] <reisio> SthNotTaken: foo*
[04:10] <somsip> nonicknotheodore: it's ubuntu, but questions abotu nasa probably belong elsewhere
[04:10] <somsip> *about
[04:10] <reisio> SthNotTaken: or if you have dirs that start with foo also and want to ignore them: find . -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type f -iname 'foo*'
[04:11] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee :: humm .. there is no XXX.old images ! avalable in /boot .. the symlinks point both to the same image .. I have never encounted such. Recon if we were to re-install "rH  linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic" It would correct this condition ?
[04:11] <SthNotTaken> reisio: I'm writing all of these down
[04:11] <nonicknotheodore> actually it's Debian and i respect that
[04:11] <eeee> Bashing-om: yeah i was thinking what if we reinstall it
[04:11] <Zimmz> This is my partition currently. I need to make another partition for my personal data like movies etc. How do I do that?
[04:12] <Zimmz> http://tinypic.com/r/f35gg9/8
[04:12] <eeee> I'm a little doubtful though, as it seems it has to do with something else
[04:12] <reisio> SthNotTaken: now...
[04:12] <somsip> !home | Zimmz (this might not be the right hint...)
[04:12] <Zimmz> I need to make it like C drive for the OS and D drive for the data
[04:12] <eeee> dotnetted: give it a shot
[04:12] <reisio> SthNotTaken: a gotcha with 7z on Unix is that it doesn't do complex archives
[04:12] <somsip> Zimmz: that's the right link
[04:12] <SthNotTaken> reisio: 7z here is the same as Windows 7z, yeah?
[04:13] <SthNotTaken> I mean, i should be able to combine these?
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: so if you 7z up a dir with some contents and extract it, you'll actually end up with a dir and the files... not in the dir
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: what you'd want to do is use tar, and then 7z that for encryption
[04:13] <nonicknotheodore> really, u don't go debian why not mint?
[04:13] <xangua> Zimmz: backup, boot live iso, gparted, resize
[04:13] <dotnetted> eeee: so try to reinstall it? (that won't try to do anything funky like swap out my current image would it heh? )
[04:13] <Zimmz> SOMSIP: it is. you can try this too http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=f35gg9&s=8#.VCJE4HazDFA
[04:13] <SthNotTaken> Only files will be zipped.
[04:13] <Zimmz> XANGUA: Thanks
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: so tar -cf foo.tar foo*; 7z a -mx=0 -mhe=on -p -v10m foo.tar.7z foo.tar
[04:13] <reisio> SthNotTaken: ok :)
[04:13] <Bashing-om> eeee: dotnetted :: I really think we need to re-establish those XXX.old symlinks .
[04:14] <xangua> Zimmz: or you could take the opportunity of make a home partition as you were told
[04:14] <fantasma> hola a todos los q ablen español
[04:15] <eeee> dotnetted: i've no idea, if i were you i would save grub.cfg in case, ( if you wanted to go ahead with it )
[04:15] <dotnetted> The weird thing is that I onyl ran one command to cause this problem: [dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge] (I did check to make sure it only selected the old kernel)
[04:16] <eeee> O.o
[04:16] <dotnetted> which technically just ran [apt-get -y purge  linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic]
[04:16] <Zimmz> I just want to make a partition that has no OS. Like I had when I had Windows. I could play with C, upgrade etc but the D drive stays there
[04:16] <Zimmz> What should be the filesystem of the new drive?
[04:16] <dotnetted> (well & headers for the exact same version)
[04:16] <xangua> A home partition "stays there" Zimmz
[04:17] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: eeee :: but what is left in /boot is but 1 kernel image, and the symlinks from / for booting I think are now broken as there is no .old images .
[04:17] <SthNotTaken> 'ls -l foo.*' matches all the files I want to move to a remote directory. how do I go about that?
[04:17] <function9> Hi guys, I'm trying to create a live dvd with this command: mkisofs -D -r -V "$IMAGE_NAME" -cache-inodes -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o ../ubuntu.iso   But I'm getting this error: genisoimage: Missing pathspec.
[04:17] <SillyKnight> Hi Bashing-om:
[04:17] <function9> wth???
[04:18] <SillyKnight> I managed to get desktop env back
[04:18] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: the symlinks still look fine (http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415332/)
[04:18] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Looked for you earlier. How is it coming out ?
[04:19] <fantasma> q pess nadie abla español
[04:19] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: So I tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:19] <SillyKnight> then installed nvidia-current
[04:19] <Elimin8er> Question, When I run pbuilder-dist utopic build qbittorrent_3.2.0alpha-1ubuntu13.dsc, I get this: make[1]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-64/qmake.conf', needed by 'Makefile'.  Stop. ??? I have the directory/file in question. I can compile with no problems. just building for ppa doesnt seem to work. at least the compile part.
[04:20] <function9> Elimin8er: make sure it's the right syntax in your make file, you could have a typo???
[04:21] <dotnetted> the worst part is that all I wanted to do was free up 200mb from /boot to upgrade to 14.04 lol - why oh why did I have to pick the older kernel
[04:22] <SthNotTaken> ubuntu14.04, how do I show currenet path?
[04:22] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: See my output for comparison, that the .old symlinks point to a different image as .old. you have no old images to point to (??) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415445/http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415445/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415446/ .
[04:22] <Elimin8er> function9, what do you mean? I have the file in question.. what do I need to be looking for.. im Dont mean to sound like a newbi. but im trying to learn this crap for future projects.
[04:22] <sudormrf> hello all
[04:22] <sudormrf> I am having trouble understanding how to setup a vhost
[04:23] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: That was in reference to "nvidia-Prime" ?
[04:23] <sudormrf> can someone in here help me understand better what is necessary to do so?
[04:23] <dotnetted> Bashing-om: ah I see (thanks foe the time btw)
[04:23] <somsip> sudormrf: a vhost for what?
[04:23] <sudormrf> somsip: I am trying to setup ampache
[04:23] <somsip> sudormrf: version?
[04:23] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Not quite, actually, nvidia-current
[04:23] <sudormrf> somsip: ampache 3.7.0 on ubuntu 12.04.
[04:24] <somsip> !info apache2 | precise
[04:24] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: All is good now ?
[04:24] <somsip> sudormrf: incorrect version of apache. Which one is it really?
[04:24] <sudormrf> somsip: ampache, not apache
[04:24] <somsip> sudormrf: lol - no idea. Never heard of it.
[04:24] <sudormrf> somsip: it is like subsonic
[04:25] <somsip> sudormrf: I can't help. I just thought you had a typo for apache
[04:25] <function9> Elimin8er: it's looking for the qmake.conf file, you need to have that installed
[04:25] <sudormrf> somsip: oh.  http://ampache.org
[04:25] <sudormrf> fyi :D
[04:25] <SthNotTaken> find / -iname "foo.*" -exec /bin/mv {} ../var/www/html/img says "missing argument to '-exec'
[04:25] <somsip> !info ampache
[04:26] <sudormrf> somsip: if you know how to setup a vhost, that may be enough.  I don’t have the knowledge.  I looked up different tutorials, but it didn’t make sense to me
[04:26] <Bashing-om> dotnetted: I think we can re-install the " linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic " and repoint the .old symlink to that image. then finish cleaning up the old versions of the kernels, and then maybe you can 'update-grub' .
[04:26] <somsip> sudormrf: still looks like an unsupported version. Where did you get 3.7 from?
[04:26] <sudormrf> somsip: from their git.  the version on the ubuntu repos is OLD
[04:26] <sudormrf> very old
[04:26] <sudormrf> heh
[04:26] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Seems running fine. But getting pop-up error time to time saying cupsd, compiz, or xorg problem and so on. Quick question, when I echo $DESKTOP_SESSION, it is supposed show gnome or alike right? But I get ubuntu.
[04:26] <somsip> sudormrf: unofficial software is not supported here. I can't help. Good luck
[04:27] <eeee> dotnetted: any progress?
[04:27] <sudormrf> somsip: ok.  well can you help me understand vhosts and how to create them in a more general sense?
[04:27] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get install -f ( wont hurt )
[04:27] <Elimin8er> function9, I have that installed.. I can compile with no problem.. just cant set it to work for ppa for some reason.. im running it right now.. I just want to package it and put it on my private ppa
[04:27] <dotnetted> eee: ill give that a try in a sec -- think I found something very related @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1279658
[04:27] <Ben64> sudormrf: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
[04:27] <Elimin8er> but I cant put it on my ppa when it keeps telling me build field. because of that
[04:28] <Elimin8er> failed even
[04:28] <sudormrf> Ben64: I looked at that….it is incredibly brief
[04:28] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Humm, yeah, I woulkd think that "ubuntu' is the unity $DESKTOP . I run also xfce and get that response, and I get 'ubuntu3d' on my unity install.
[04:28] <Ben64> sudormrf: you can click on each thing
[04:28] <sudormrf> Ben64: checking again
[04:29] <SthNotTaken> I have many files named foo.7z.001, foo.7z.002, etc. How would I use wget to get all of them?
[04:29] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: if you have them, why would you need to use wget
[04:29] <function9> Elimin8er: file permissions ok on it?
[04:30] <SthNotTaken> Ben64: sorry, they're on someone else's machine.
[04:30] <SthNotTaken> I mis-spoke
[04:30] <dotnetted> eee: is there something special I need to do to get the image to install? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415473/
[04:30] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: wget http://internetstuff/foo.7z.{000-999}
[04:30] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: wget http://internetstuff/foo.7z.{000..999}
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> the second?
[04:31] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: the second one yeah
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> thanks, Ben64
[04:31] <somsip> sudormrf: wget file.??? (assume 3 digits)
[04:31] <Ben64> but you probably want to change the numbers to the actual ones
[04:31] <eeee> dotnetted: i meant sudo apt-get install -f , alone it checks for missing dependencies and tries to fix broken packages i think
[04:31] <Elimin8er> function9, the machine on launchpad is getting the same error as I am.. thats what I dont get.. I have the files and I can compile straight with no problem and run it.. but when I use the bzr way to package this program. then test it with pbuilder it doesnt work for me nor the machine on launchpad.....
[04:31] <SthNotTaken> 000..070 would work?
[04:31] <Ben64> SthNotTaken: indeed
[04:31] <sudormrf> Ben64: that page is different than what I am seeing
[04:32] <dotnetted> eeee: ah ok thanks
[04:32] <sudormrf> but I think I can tweak it
[04:32] <sudormrf> somsip: ?
[04:32] <Elimin8er> its always the same error
[04:32] <sudormrf> already downloaded and untared
[04:32] <Elimin8er> no mater what I do
[04:32] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah, checked XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity,
[04:32] <eeee> yeah, it only fixes dependencies
[04:32] <Elimin8er> I even checked the dep's and made sure I had them all listed
[04:32] <eeee> dotnetted: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:32] <dotnetted> eeee: nope - still wants to remove the image/headers and not install anything
[04:32] <eeee> maybe, who knows
[04:33] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: And at the login prompt you are choosing which session ?
[04:33] <dotnetted> eeee: heh it wants to upgrade 1091 packages heh
[04:33] <eeee> lol
[04:33] <function9> Elimin8er: I wish I could help looking into your source, but I'm kinda in a pickle atm creating my custom live ubuntu dvd. :(
[04:33] <dotnetted> (part of the reason why I was trying to 14.04 upgrade)
[04:34] <Elimin8er> function9, its ok man,, thanks for trying anyhow...
[04:34] <Elimin8er> il figure it out one day
[04:34] <Elimin8er> I dont give up easy
[04:35] <roasted> hello
[04:35] <Moonlightning> This is weird.
[04:35] <Moonlightning> I seem to have both a root shell and the usual `login` running on a single tty.
[04:35] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: I didn't pay attention to. Does that have anything to do with greeter? I don't quite understand what greeter means. But I noticed that I got a kdm_greeter fail error a while ago.
[04:35] <roasted> Question - it seems when I change my background image, the transparency of notify-osd bubbles changes to correspond with the wallpaper colors/darkness. Is there a way to not have this happen? My image is sending the background of the bubbles too light.
[04:35] <Moonlightning> Also a bunch of messages abotu a hung `login`.
[04:36] <sudormrf> Ben64: ok so I inserted some virtual host stuff and now it is saying there is an error <VirtualHost> not closed
[04:36] <Moonlightning> And…a tainted kernel? O.o
[04:36] <sudormrf> however I did close it
[04:36] <eeee> dotnetted: yeah, odd how this happened though
[04:36] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Is it possible to check which session I am on after login?
[04:36] <eeee> dotnetted: i've no idea
[04:37] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: I am "assuming" you have installed additional desktops besides 'unity' ?/ as such at the log in if you click on the ubuntu icon -upper right of the box - one can choose the session.
[04:37] <eeee> dotnetted: i got that error trying to reinstall grub without mounting /dev etc. but you didn't unmount anything.. so..
[04:38] <dotnetted> eeee: the only mount related thing i did recently was remounting /tmp from noexec,... to "defaults"
[04:38] <function9> ahh I solve my problem :)
[04:38] <function9> later guys
[04:38] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: check " /etc/X11/default-display-manager " .
[04:39] <openCholby> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[04:41] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah, I should have installed multiple desktops. I remember installer asked me to choose between gdm and lightdm.
[04:41] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[04:41] <dotnetted> " grub-probe -vv /swap" should work right?
[04:41] <Bashing-om> SillyKnight: Then you are running unity .
[04:41] <eeee> dotnetted: can you paste bin mount ?
[04:42] <dotnetted> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8415545/
[04:42] <sudormrf> I am lost
[04:42] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Yeah echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP shows Unity
[04:43] <SillyKnight> too
[04:44] <jishjish> hi all,  i accidently messed around with user accounts on ubuntu, and now i only have one user account named s (with no password as it's disabled.) Is there anything I can do to elevate myself to a administrator?
[04:44] <eeee> dotnetted: maybe it has to do with /tmp ? a lot of the none are mounted on /tmp
[04:44] <dotnetted> eeee: Those aufs lines don't look normal....
[04:45] <dotnetted> I wonder if then do-release-upgrade failed (due to out-of-space on /boot) if it left some aufs stuff mounted
[04:45] <mxmy6iziiq2> jishjish: use a boot cd to remove the shadow and passwd files and then you should be able to root with no password
[04:45] <eeee> dotnetted: try mount -a -o remount
[04:45] <jishjish> mxmy6iziiq2: where are the shadow and password files?
[04:45] <Ben64> jishjish: don't do that
[04:46] <mxmy6iziiq2> jishjish: in the /etc folder
[04:46] <Ben64> mxmy6iziiq2: don't suggest that
[04:46] <eeee> dotnetted: i don't know if it'll help, it should remount everything that is in fstab
[04:46] <dotnetted> eeee: did it - same "mount" output
[04:46] <jishjish> Ben64: what should I do then?
[04:46] <Ben64> jishjish: boot in recovery mode and you can reset passwords the correct way, and add a new user if you want
[04:46] <dotnetted> maybe I need to somehow unmount these aufs lines - I think they will get auto-killed on reboot but now I cant safely reboot lol
[04:47] <jishjish> Ben64: how do I boot into recovery mode, I think there is only one partition?
[04:47] <SDr> hi guys, using openbox, when switching workspace (using keyboard ctrl+alt+left/right), wine-opened apps fail to be re-activated (their windows become un-responsive). any ideas why this might be?
[04:47] <Ben64> jishjish: its an option on the grub screen when booting. you may need to hit shift during boot up to see it
[04:47] <jishjish> SDr: in my experience some apps just crash using wine, can you maybe find a linux replacement, otherwise dual boot windows?
[04:48] <jishjish> Ben64: ok, so once I boot into this mode, how do I reset passwords and remove users I don't want/need?
[04:48] <pavlos> jishjish, http://askubuntu.com/questions/150367/how-do-i-boot-into-recovery-mode
[04:48] <mxmy6iziiq2> SDr: or use kvm or qemu to virtual boot windows
[04:48] <Ben64> jishjish: passwd, adduser
[04:50] <eeee> dotnetted: you could do this sudo umount -a -t aufs
[04:50] <eeee> should unmount all the aufs stuff
[04:50] <dotnetted> eeee: "device is busy" on all aufs
[04:50] <eeee> but i don't know if it wont mess anything up..
[04:51] <dotnetted> lsof aufs
[04:51] <jishjish> Ben64: what about removing users, I think i probably created a bunch of users I no longer need?
[04:51] <dotnetted> oops
[04:51] <Ben64> jishjish: deluser
[04:51] <felty> no more room in hell
[04:52] <jishjish> Ben64: thanks
[04:52] <dotnetted> errrr so does this mean that do-release-upgrade failed and left my /var , /usr, /etc, /and /bin directories mounted to some crazy in-memory fake filesystem...
[04:52] <dotnetted> and by doing so prevents me from running update-grub in order to reboot...
[04:53] <dotnetted> ... yay
[04:53] <eeee> you ran do-release-upgrade ?
[04:53] <dotnetted> at the very beginning of all of this that's what I was trying to do -- but I didnt have enough space on /boot and it failed
[04:53] <jishjish> Ben64: lastly when I messed around with users the applications I installed are still all there but the unity ones that I docked are not. Are things like that user prefs - do they get deleted with the user account?
[04:53] <dotnetted> so I removed an old kernel image and update-grub failed leaving the old kernel image in half-installed state
[04:54] <eeee> dotnetted: you could force unmount the filesystem if you want
[04:54] <eeee> dotnetted: btw if you reboot and it doesn't start back up, how devastating would that be?
[04:54] <dotnetted> but it looks like the initial do-release-upgrade failure left those directories mounted as aufs - kinda screwing me since update-grub cant run to complete the old kernal removal (unless im completely wrong)
[04:55] <dotnetted> eeee: it would be very bad :) - remotely hosted high-traffic server with a broken IPMI
[04:55] <eeee> dotnetted: try to run do-release-upgrade again
[04:55] <eeee> dotnetted: it might take care of the filesystems, and install
[04:55] <Ben64> jishjish: those things are usually in the user's home directory so if those are gone, yeah
[04:55] <eeee> i'd try do-release-upgrade
[04:56] <dotnetted> eeee: tried it, it fails because it needs to remove the old kernel (well dpkg does)
[04:57] <eeee> dotnetted: it's really up to you, you could try to force unmount them
[04:57] <dotnetted> so I guess I can either forcefully unmount those aufs (who knows what that'll do heh) or I reboot
[04:57] <eeee> i don't know what that'd do though
[04:57] <eeee> yeah
[04:57] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks for your time by the way
[04:57] <best> hola
[04:58] <best> Alguien hispano hablante
[04:58] <eeee> or maybe reinstall linux-image-3.8.0- , ( very long shot though )
[04:58] <eeee> dotnetted: no problem
[04:58] <dotnetted> eeee: won't let me reinstall it - it seems to require the half-installed versions to be removed first
[04:59] <eeee> did you try apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.8.0-
[04:59] <dotnetted> mm nope  - time to try that
[04:59] <bimberi> !es | best
[05:00] <dotnetted> "Reinstallation of linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic is not possible, it cannot be downloaded." - lol
[05:00] <SillyKnight> Bashing-om: Thanks! Will come back tomorrow to fix other problems..
[05:00] <xangua> dotnetted: what ubuntu release is this?
[05:00] <dotnetted> 13.10 - but you may have missed some extra craziness mentioned above heh
[05:01] <xangua> dotnetted: crazy or not,13.10 is not supported
[05:02] <dotnetted> xangua: my entire conversation here was me attempting to upgrade to 14.10 and "do-release-upgrade" screwed me
[05:02] <brokengrub> hi everybody
[05:02] <dotnetted> 14.04 even :)
[05:02] <brokengrub> could any body help me install and repair grub?
[05:02] <brokengrub> I get this error: grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:03] <brokengrub> usr13, I am the same guy yesterday!
[05:03] <brokengrub> now I am on the same pc I am trying to fix\
[05:03] <brokengrub> and i get this message: grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install.
[05:04] <eeee> dotnetted: more info about your  predicament https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-March/027747.html
[05:04] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks a bunch
[05:04] <eeee> talks about using aufs as an overlay filesystem layer for release upgrades
[05:05] <brokengrub> exit
[05:06] <eeee> dotnetted: seems that's when they were still inventing it or something, it's used to make a fake upgrade, that upon reboot will be removed
[05:07] <eeee> at least that's what i got out of it
[05:07] <eeee> maybe they used that as a temporary thing to ensure the system is up to date before writing the upgrade?
[05:07] <eeee> ( they ended up integrating it into the actual do-release-upgrade )
[05:08] <eeee> like if you reboot now, maybe it'll just go back to pre-upgrade state?
[05:08] <eeee> i'd look into that
[05:08] <dotnetted> eeee: well unfortunately the old linux image is missing now but I bet the grub file still points to it (actually yeah it does)
[05:09] <dotnetted> but i cant fix grub because of these mounts :(
[05:09] <eeee> maybe we need to see what force unmounting them would do
[05:09] <xangua> dotnetted: you just need to change your source list to point to -old
[05:10] <dotnetted> xangua: where abouts?
[05:10] <eeee> xangua: i think the error earlier about the linux image was due to it being unavailable, as in obsolete
[05:10] <sudormrf> any reason why ampache 3.7.0 is not in the repos?  current version is 3.7.0, but repos are showing an alpha version
[05:10] <eeee> dotnetted: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:11] <xangua> dotnetted: did you read the part in !eol upgrade instructions where it says to change your source list to -old ones?
[05:11] <dotnetted> eeee: even if I was able to reinstall the old image update-grub will still fail due to the mounted aufs wont it?
[05:11] <dotnetted> leaving the packages in half-installed states
[05:12] <dotnetted> xangua: the sources are not the problem here at all - I attempted to purge an old kernel and the grub update failed due to mounted aufs left over from do-release-upgrade
[05:12] <eeee> xangua: he upgraded fine, it's just that he didn't have enough space in /boot , and that caused the upgrade to fail and cause other issues ( can't update-grub due to a failed to get canonical path of none ) and half a dozen none mounted as aufs which seem to be related to the upgrade process
[05:13] <eeee> dotnetted: yeah i think so, reinstalling linux image is a very long shot
[05:13] <eeee> most likely it will fail as well
[05:14] <dotnetted> if I manage to get the old kernel reinstalled and it'll want to run grub-update is there any way for me to tell dpkg that everything is OK and to mark it as installed again heh
[05:14] <dotnetted> like force it to an installed state (assuming the only ommitted post-uninstall step that failed was grub-update)
[05:17] <eeee> dotnetted: if you do cat /etc/issue
[05:17] <eeee> what do you get right now?
[05:17] <dotnetted> eeee: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[05:17] <dotnetted> maybe I should spin up an amazon box with 13.10 and "do-release-upgrade -s" then try to force unmount the aufs and see what happens heh
[05:18] <eeee> i could try it in a vm i guess
[05:20] <dotnetted> eeee: I have one running w/ 13.10 - ill try to reproduce it exactly by filling up my /boot partition, running do-release-upgrade until failure, killing an old kernel w/ purge (hopefully it errors out w/ grub-update failure) and then test unmoutning aufs
[05:20] <eeee> dotnetted: ok
[05:21] <dotnetted> eeee: wont work w/ amazons virtualization :(
[05:21] <dotnetted> mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'
[05:22] <eeee> you're trying to unmount them?
[05:23] <dotnetted> nah - trying to run [do-release-upgrade -s] -- fails to create the sandbox environment
[05:23] <eeee> oh ok
[05:24] <dotnetted> (which should create the aufs -- im pretty sure I never ran do-re**de with "-s" on the screwed up server but at least "-s" guarantees mounting of aufs)
[05:25] <dotnetted> that's a pretty scary "sandbox" mode for do-release-upgrade lol -- requires a reboot on failure or you get stuck with all the imported dirs mounted into memory lol
[05:25] <dotnetted> important*
[05:26] <S1mPl3Man> Nice
[05:27] <dotnetted> k I guess I should forcefully amount these babies
[05:28] <eeee> dotnetted: i'm trying to see something on google about it
[05:28] <eeee> no luck yet though
[05:29] <dotnetted> eeee: since /var is now mounted to aufs does that mean that all mysql data is being written to a temporary /var/lib/mysql copy?
[05:29] <dotnetted> I really really hope not lol
[05:32] <Utmankhail> need help joining windows7 to samba domain ?
[05:33] <Utmankhail> is there anyone to help me ?
[05:33] <hateball> Utmankhail: Ask your real question
[05:34] <hateball> !ask
[05:37] <eeee> dotnetted: wait a sec, you used do-release-upgrade -s , for the sandbox mode right?
[05:37] <eeee> dotnetted: cause i came across failed upgrades from 13.10, and the upgrader says that /boot is full at the very start and just cancels the upgrade
[05:38] <eeee> so did you upgrade using -s ?
[05:40] <dotnetted> checking command histroy it looks like I did it earlier in the day (misunderstood the implications of the sandbox)
[05:40] <dotnetted> with -s
[05:40] <dotnetted> which explaisn the aufs
[05:40] <eeee> so that's not something that the upgrader usually uses
[05:40] <eeee> i think, force unmounting them would be ok
[05:41] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[05:41] <eeee> ( im not sure though! )
[05:41] <HikaruBG> what is DKMS?
[05:41] <jishjish> Ben64: what command can I use to see the current user accounts on the system (when I go into the gui it only shows one standard) one but I don't remember any of the passwords I set for any of the users.
[05:41] <dotnetted> eeee: ok here goes nothing :)
[05:41] <eeee> dotnetted: you can try to lazy unmount them first
[05:42] <dotnetted> sudo umount -a -t -l aufs ?
[05:42] <eeee> sudo umount -a -l -t aufs
[05:43] <dotnetted> im still alive
[05:43] <eeee> hehe
[05:43] <bashfr3ak> jishjish cat /etc/passwd
[05:43] <dotnetted> and update-grub worked!
[05:43] <eeee> cool
[05:44] <dotnetted> lol now I still need another 300mb on /boot to upgrade lol
[05:44] <dotnetted> back to square 1
[05:45] <eeee> remove the linux-image-3.8
[05:45] <dotnetted> eeee: thanks again for all the help - would be a mangled mess without your tips
[05:45] <eeee> dotnetted: no problem
[05:46] <dotnetted> looks like 3.8 was already removed form /boot
[05:46] <eeee> ah right
[05:47] <dotnetted> funny thing though... apt-get autoclean gives: "E: Unable to change to (unreachable)/lib/dpkg/info/ - chdir (2: No such file or directory)"
[05:47] <eeee> why's it full though
[05:47] <jishjish> eeee: can you help me with my users problem: I've managed to remove the administrator user I had and now I only have one standard user and have forgot it's password. Ben kindly told me to boot into recovery (but I've forgotten what key that is ~ shift didn't work for me?). Also what is the command to see all available users in terminal I believe th
[05:47] <jishjish> ere should only be one, named s, but maybe there is more.
[05:49] <eeee> jishjish: hold shift > you'll get grub > press e to edit the entry for ubuntu, add "init=/bin/bash" at the end of the line that starts with Linux /boot/vmlinuz..."
[05:49] <dotnetted> what's the best way to analyze space usage in /boot? df -h shows 2 entries for /boot -- 1 with "/dev/sda1" and 1 with "none" (both have 453M total space which seems a little low)
[05:49] <eeee> jishjish: press ctrl+x to execute it, you'll get a root shell, remount as read-write, mount -o remount,rw /
[05:50] <jishjish> eeee: you lost me after hold shift and you
[05:50] <jishjish> *'ll get recovery options.
[05:50] <dotnetted> oh lol I still have 1 aufs left for /boot
[05:51] <eeee> jishjish: when you hold shift, you'll get the grub menu, you'll see an entry for your ubuntu installation, and maybe advanced options etc.
[05:51] <dotnetted> ran a lazy umount of aufs again and /boot is back to 111G :)
[05:51] <eeee> jishjish: press "e" over your ubuntu's installation
[05:51] <eeee> dotnetted: great :)
[05:53] <eeee> jishjish: to see who's logged on you can type who
[05:54] <dotnetted> I still seem to have a duplicated mount for my tmpfs mounted as none (/var/mysqltmp on /tmp/upgrade-rw-0f1eHb/needs_bind_mount/var/mysqltmp type none (rw,bind)) -- think it's safe to unmount -a -t /var/mysqltmp?
[05:54] <jishjish> eeee: it says s (which is the user name three times, one with tty7 one with pts/0 and another third line with pts/1
[05:55] <jishjish> in terminal is there a command to see what kind of user is identified by the "who" command?
[05:55] <eeee> jishjish: you want to know if he has sudo?
[05:55] <eeee> groups <user>
[05:55] <jishjish> eeee: i'm quite sure he is standard but yes, that's what I want to check please
[05:56] <eeee> and sudo -l , will list what he can do
[05:57] <eeee> dotnetted: no idea
[05:57] <jishjish> the username appears to be s, when I type groups s I get returned "s : s". Only problem with sudo -l for me is I don't know the password to s (standard account).
[05:58] <eeee> jishjish: which account are you using right now?
[05:58] <jishjish> s
[05:58] <jishjish> a standard account
[05:58] <Flannel> jishjish: You just want to see the groups the user is in?  "groups user" will list them.
[05:58] <eeee> ok sudo -l will just mention what he can do with regards to sudo
[05:59] <eeee> ( if he can run what commands and if without knowing the password )
[05:59] <Flannel> jishjish: Oh, you saw that.  If the user is only a member of his own group, then he's not a member of any other group (such as admin).  What's your question?
[05:59] <jishjish> eeee: sudo -l asks for password (which I don;t know)
[06:00] <eeee> jishjish: you need to do as i outlined above to get your password back ( hold shift, etc. )
[06:00] <eeee> Flannel: he locked himself out
[06:00] <jishjish> eeee: can you repeat those steps. step1. I boot into recovery open a terminal. then?
[06:00] <eeee> Flannel: trying to see if he had given himself any access without passwd
[06:01] <Flannel> eeee: Yeah, just found that.  Looks like you're on it, so I'll leave you to it.
[06:01] <eeee> Flannel: ok
[06:02] <eeee> jishjish: hold shift while the pc boots until a grub menu appears
[06:02] <eeee> jishjish: is this in a vm?
[06:02] <jishjish> eeee: no it's not sadly
[06:02] <eeee> well that's better
[06:02] <eeee> :)
[06:03] <jishjish> eeee: really I thought people like me were meant to practice there loads first
[06:03] <eeee> no, just back up your stuff regularly
[06:04] <eeee> jishjish: it's that in a vm sometimes its hard to get the grub menu by pressing shift while it boots
[06:04] <eeee> jishjish: that's why i asked, and since it's not a vm it should be pretty easy to get grub
[06:04] <jishjish> eeee: press or hold? I got it the first time but since then it's been going straight into os.
[06:04] <eeee> hold
[06:06] <jishjish> ok, sorry for babying me but I am learning commands. once I am in grub recovery menu and in a terminal. what next?
[06:06] <eeee> yeah, grub will only appear if you hold shift, the next time you boot it won't appear
[06:06] <jishjish> eeee: oh? how do I get it to appear again?
[06:06] <eeee> don't use the recovery, it asks for the password most likely
[06:06] <eeee> jishjish: by pressing shift
[06:06] <eeee> i mean, holding shift :)
[06:07] <dotnetted> eeee: do-release-upgrade seems to be working fine -- every now and then I see "grep: /boot/config-3.11.0-19-generic: No such file or directory" -- think I should be worried? heh
[06:07] <jishjish> eeee: so every time I hold shift it should work?
[06:07] <dotnetted> right after "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-19-generic"
[06:07] <eeee> jishjish: every time you hold shift the grub menu will appear
[06:08] <jishjish> I see. once in grub, and terminal. which command should I run first? who?
[06:08] <eeee> dotnetted: that's the kernel you're running right?
[06:08] <dotnetted> yeah
[06:08] <eeee> jishjish: once in grub, press "e" over the ubuntu entry
[06:08] <eeee> jishjish: not the recovery
[06:09] <jishjish> oh right, what does "e" do?
[06:09] <dotnetted> (but I assume the do-releas-upgrade will give me a newer one)
[06:09] <eeee> jishjish: it will edit the entry
[06:09] <eeee> jishjish: it's also just for this one time, next time you boot it won't use the edited entry
[06:09] <jishjish> right ok
[06:09] <jishjish> then?
[06:10] <eeee> jishjish: add "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line that starts with Linux /boot/vmlinuz...
[06:10] <nevermoreraven> what are some good movies?
[06:11] <jishjish> eeee: ok, what does that do?
[06:11] <eeee> jishjish: i would love to explain stuff but i really have to get dressed and drive someone somewhere
[06:11] <jishjish> alright no worries, so I add that and then reboot?
[06:11] <eeee> jishjish: i'll have to quickly write things out, or if you want someone else can help for sure
[06:12] <eeee> jishjish: no press ctrl+x to execute
[06:12] <eeee> you'll get a root shell, type mount -o remount,rw /
[06:12] <eeee> then add your user to the sudo group, usermod -aG sudo s
[06:12] <eeee> and change his passwd, passwd s
[06:14] <eeee> or make a new temporary sudo'd user by useradd -m -G sudo <user>
[06:14] <eeee> to get in and fix stuff
[06:14] <jishjish> eeee: I think I want a perminent admin or sudoer and then I will delete the "S" account
[06:15] <eeee> jishjish: you can add that via the gui, settings > users
[06:15] <jishjish> oh right so this will just give me the "S" user a password and then I can do everything else via gui
[06:16] <eeee> yeah
[06:16] <eeee> jishjish: be sure to type passwd s , to change the password
[06:16] <jishjish> otherwise I will change the root password right, instead of for that user?
[06:17] <eeee> yeah
[06:44] <dooglus> what does it mean when your systel load average is over 3 billion?
[06:44] <dooglus> $ uptime
[06:44] <dooglus>  23:38:38 up 4 days,  6:08,  3 users,  load average: 3835911720.33, 3413503241.13, 3317403024.64
[06:45] <dooglus> system*
[06:46] <Fall> You should have some very very very very very VERY hot CPUs.
[06:47] <helmut_> i
[06:48] <Cat> Hello :)
[06:51] <wanti> hayy.....
[06:51] <akromfatmawati> hallo...
[06:52] <uci> haiiiiii
[06:52] <dewi-nurus> hay
[06:52] <genewitch> what's a lightweight CMS that will take me like an hour to set up?
[06:52] <genewitch> maybe something that uses not mysql. that'd be nice
[06:53] <suci> aku ra ngerti ngomong apa
[06:53] <liliseri> hallo friends
[06:53] <dewi-nurus> wan
[06:53] <akromfatmawati> pada baen a y kya gue
[06:53] <uci> sarua......
[06:57] <dewi-nurus> lgi apa kwan XI IPA
[06:57] <wanti> OMG ,,,,i don't remember about lenguage english........
[07:00] <khussein78> I cannot connect to samba share after I download today updates on ubuntu 14,04
[07:00] <khussein78> mount error(5): Input/output error
[07:09] <khussein78> mount error(5): Input/output error
[07:10] <khussein78> I cannot connect to samba share after I download today updates on ubuntu 14,04
[07:10] <cfhowlett> khussein78, i/o erros suggest hardware failure
[07:11] <khussein78> cfhowlett, it works fine from windows and it was worked fine today morning before run latest updates
[07:12] <hateball> In the case of Samba it could be down to permissions also
[07:12] <cfhowlett> ^^^ this khussein78
[07:12] <khussein78> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[07:12] <khussein78> it gave this also
[07:13] <khussein78> also I face it on two machines
[07:21] <stangeland> Hello, if i do /etc/init.d/hostapd start i get   * Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd                      [fail]     How do i see why it failed?
[07:25] <hateball> stangeland: Check the init script if it has a special log location, or just look around in /var/log
[07:25] <hateball> It could log to syslog or who knows
[07:27] <TheBigDeal> Morning
[07:28] <stangeland> hateball, yeah, i have looked there but i could not find any log :(
[07:28] <TheBigDeal> Could you tell me what do you call applications that work in the real-time and have a tray-icon nearby the clock?
[07:30] <TheBigDeal> hey
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> !tray
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> !application
[07:31] <hateball> stangeland: I am not familiar with the program in question, sadly
[07:31] <TheBigDeal> ubottu,
[07:32] <TheBigDeal> hateball, Have you any idea?
[07:32] <liliseri> hello
[07:33] <hateball> TheBigDeal: I'm not familiar with Unity terminology, no
[07:35] <TheBigDeal> hm
[07:46] <felty> hmm
[07:55] <itewsh> Hi
[07:56] <luckybunny> anyone else getting update-manager trying to replace wine 1.7 with wine 1.6?
[07:56] <luckybunny> it's also wanting to 'update' my NVIDIA stuff with generic
[08:02] <jnhghy> Hi, I've just updated to 14.04 and I see that the left bar(the one with dash and the launchers) doesn't auto-hide anymore, is there a way to make it auto-hide or do I need to live with it?
[08:02] <mbrgm1> anyone else having wrong checksum issues with trusty-updates during apt-get update?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, more useful information by posting your actual terminal feedback.  fwiw: my dist-ugprade is running perfectly but "works for me"
[08:05] <mbrgm1> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[08:05] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: ^
[08:06] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, new error?
[08:06] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: what do you mean with 'new error'?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, is this the first time you've seen this error?
[08:07] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: yup, but on several (virtual) machines
[08:07] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, VM only?
[08:07] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: works on some though.
[08:08] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: no, vm host too.
[08:08] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: some vms work, some don't. vm host doesn't.
[08:09] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, I see.  First: test with a different mirror in  your software source settings
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: lol, reboot on one machine fixed the error.
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: I'll try the other ones...
[08:11] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, nicely done
[08:11] <mbrgm1> cfhowlett: maybe some caching error I guess...
[08:12] <cfhowlett> mbrgm1, usually this error self corrects
[08:18] <dyu> how do i make apt-get explicitly ask me if i want to continue?
[08:26] <jnhghy> gedit stoped working(it closes when I try to open a file) after 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade error I get is: http://pastebin.com/2We6ZycH
[08:35] <Skizu> Not sure this is the right place to ask, but I'll leave that up to you. I'm using a ubuntu box for run my PHP and such, I use Apache PostgreSQL PHP(via mod_proxy_fcgi). Was wondering if there's a better way to handle my static content
[08:38] <fattaneh1> I've installed jap and it works well with firefox but it doesn't work in terminal, also i export proxies to terminal
[08:39] <Eduard_Munteanu> Where do I find the Ubuntu archive GPG key? (securely downloadble)
[08:40] <somsip> Skizu: your question seems quite specific to web design. You may want to server static content via nginx or something similar. But its out of scope for discussion here
[08:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Please tell me that's not missing as well.
[08:41] <k1l> Eduard_Munteanu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication_Tab
[08:44] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, getting it from a keyserver doesn't count as secure, and I can't seem to find a fingerprint to check it.
[08:44] <k1l> Eduard_Munteanu: sorry, but what do you want to do in the first place?
[08:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, I'm building an Arch Linux package, I'll use the key with cdebootstrap
[08:45] <Eduard_Munteanu> Not running Ubuntu at the moment.
[08:47] <k1l> why should a keyserver be not secure? that is a common place to share a key
[08:49] <Skizu> somsip: So would nginx be a solution? How does nginx provide a better handling of static content? Where'd I look for these answers for my random questions :P
[08:49] <somsip> Skizu: looks like you need to do some research. I'd suggest nginx home page for a start.
[08:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> k1l, the requests/responses aren't signed or encrypted at all, it's a cleartext protocol.
[08:59] <ubuntu_amit> hello
[09:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> ubuntu_amit, hi
[09:00] <ubuntu_amit> I installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my oracle virtualbox through a bridged adaptor but can't connect it through putty from my windows host
[09:01] <ubuntu_amit> I have disabled the firewall by ufw disable
[09:01] <ubuntu_amit> I need to access the ubuntu vm using putty from my host machine ...what could be going wrong?
[09:02]  * Eduard_Munteanu wonders who put these people in charge of maintaining distribution websites (not just Ubuntu) if they can't make basic crypto provisions in 2014 :(
[09:05] <antonio__> I'm using 12.10 and I'm getting ready to updgrade to the latest version.  I've just burned the latest version on a live DVD.  And I just finished backing up my home folder...What do I do next?
[09:05] <ubuntu_amit> anyone?
[09:05] <antonio__> Can I just run the new install...and then use the backup/restore to bring my home folder back?
[09:08] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: is it on the same subnet? Is SSH daemon running? Are you connecting with a valid user and valid pass/key?
[09:08] <bazhang> antonio__, the installer should offer to preserve home
[09:10] <ubuntu_amit> @somsip - yes its on the same subnet, how do I verify that ssh daemon is running?
[09:10] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: ps aux | grep sshd
[09:12] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - no results with that command...though I see ssh-agent running when I do "ps aux | grep ssh" ...do I need to start ssh daemon
[09:13] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: if you have not installed it, you need to do that, It doesn't install as standard* (* it can be added as an option)
[09:14] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - should I execute "apt-get install openssh-server" ?
[09:14] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: yes
[09:17] <ISayHeyHey> Is /bin/sh a symlink to /bin/bash?
[09:17] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: yes
[09:17] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - cool works....how can I login as root user? what would be the default password? the installation didn't ask me to set it
[09:18] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: you don't log in as root - it's not safe. You log in as a user with sudo priviliges and use that
[09:19] <gagamail> rm -rf /
[09:19] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: Hmm.. Do you have any idea what could be causing my problem then? I SSH into my Ubuntu box (using Putty on Windows). But when I press the arrow up, it just writes "^[[A", Auto-complete with tab doesn't work either.
[09:19] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: I heard it could be something about the default shell, but haven't found a solution yet.
[09:19] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - ok cool works...how I can access the service running on my ubuntu vm on port 3000 from my host machine browser?
[09:20] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: make sure you use utf-8 as encoding?
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: to what end?
[09:20] <flameaway> There is the strange thing I have to do to reboot ubuntu...
[09:21] <flameaway> First I have to reboot into bios.  then hit F9 to load defauts
[09:21] <flameaway> then F10 to save and exit.  I then reboot and reenter bios and change one setting (doesnt' matter what)
[09:21] <flameaway> Then my system will boot to ubuntu...
[09:21] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: UTF-8 is set in Putty. Ubuntu box is en_US.UTF-8 :)
[09:21] <flameaway> How do I fix this
[09:22] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: Danish is my language on the windows machine, could it be the problem?
[09:22] <k1l> ISayHeyHey: no. dont think so
[09:23] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - got it ...basically I was running a service on my vm but was trying to access it through localhost...works when I access it using the ip address
[09:23] <sennn> hello there
[09:24] <ISayHeyHey> k1l: I'll be damned. I will think it over during lunch :)
[09:24] <ubuntu_amit> somsip - thanks a ton...your help made it really quick
[09:24] <somsip> ubuntu_amit: np
[09:31] <Hightower_> I have UFW install on my 14.04 box but the rules aren't applying
[09:31] <Skizu> So I'm looking to get an irc client on my ubuntu 14.04 LTS box, any suggestions?
[09:31] <Hightower_> No matter what I add the ports SSH, DNS, HTTP, POP3, IMAP remain open
[09:31] <Hightower_> And if I try to enable HTTPS nothing changes
[09:31] <cfhowlett> Skizu, see the software center : irc clients
[09:31] <Hightower_> I've tried ufw reset
[09:31] <Hightower_> And then ufw reload after adding rules
[09:32] <Skizu> cfhowlett: Can you define this software center you reference?
[09:32] <k1l> Skizu: hexchat or irssi (gui or cli)
[09:32] <Skizu> k1l: irssi for cli?
[09:32] <cfhowlett> Skizu, Ubuntu Software Center
[09:32] <k1l> yes
[09:32] <Fuchs> Skizu: that or weechat, yes
[09:32] <Skizu> Thanks hun ;)
[09:32] <Fuchs> weechat is slightly newer and recently more active developed.
[09:36] <jnhghy> how to add a path to 'org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser' ? (it seems I lost it when upgrading to 14.04) now I get error when trying (I assume) gtk3 file opener/chooser the error is this: http://pastebin.com/3px0bhCN so how can I add a path and what path should I enter?
[09:38] <skizu> Looks like that was seemless, cheers
[09:38] <Hightower_> UFW took my deny rules after a restart
[09:38] <Hightower_> But it still didn't open up HTTPS
[09:42] <mks1209> hi all, how can I install ubuntu if i dont have a CD Rom drive in my laptop
[09:42] <Fuchs> mks1209: you can boot from an USB flashdrive if your BIOS supports that
[09:42] <DJones> !usb | mks1209
[09:42] <Fuchs> mks1209: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  for details on that :)
[09:43] <mks1209> thanks all
[09:43] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[09:47] <juiced>  /quit
[09:51] <masoudborbor> HI EVERIBODY. how much time does it take for "gpart" to scan my hard? sudo gpart /dev/sda
[09:52] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, factors: available ram, size of HDD so: we can't answer
[09:53] <nevermoreraven> my dog just ripped ass
[09:53] <cfhowlett> nevermoreraven, wrong channel.
[09:53] <ImQ009> nevermoreraven, waka waka waka
[09:59] <sennn> again
[10:00] <omelchek> Hello! I have just reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1373334, which channel should I better write to? thnx
[10:01] <Xtreme> guys, anything like https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/570/todotxt/ for other dwm?
[10:01] <Xtreme> for ubuntu
[10:01] <EiriksUbuntu> um, am i missing something?
[10:01] <EiriksUbuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8416965/
[10:01] <Xtreme> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/162/todo-list/
[10:01] <Xtreme> this is better
[10:01] <cfhowlett> omelchek, you reported the bug.  no need to report to  a channel.
[10:02] <masoudborbor> cfhowlett, hdd 500gb 3 gb ram
[10:02] <masoudborbor> )(the question was about the time gpart needs to scan my hdd)
[10:03] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, simple scan should take about 1 minute.  doing MORE than scanning takes more time.
[10:03] <omelchek> cfhowlett, I understand, it's just quit urgent :-) that's why
[10:03] <cfhowlett> omelchek, noted.
[10:04] <masoudborbor> I just typed gpart /dev/sda but it is now for about 20 minutes
[10:04] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, and nothing happened ... right?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !info gpart
[10:05] <masoudborbor> exactly
[10:05] <masoudborbor> just says: begin scan...
[10:06] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, gpart is NOT gparted.  which one do you need?
[10:06] <ObrienDave> is the drive light still on?
[10:06] <masoudborbor> gpart
[10:06] <ObrienDave> what are you trying to accomplish?
[10:07] <masoudborbor> I cannot boot my windows/ubuntu laptop. when I try to install grub it has problems with Lvm
[10:07] <AnAnt> Hello, I got a dell laptop with Ubuntu Precise pre-installed, how can I upgrade to trusty and keep the OEM repositories
[10:07] <masoudborbor> and when I use gparted
[10:07] <ykotko> by the way this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1373334 is affected and me
[10:07] <masoudborbor> I see that my partition table is lost (or wrong)
[10:07] <masoudborbor> but with linux live I can see my partitions and all the folders in them
[10:07] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, sudo apt-get update && sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:08] <AnAnt> cfhowlett: what about the OEM repositories ?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, OEM = Dell?
[10:09] <AnAnt> cfhowlett: I've got repositories like: oem.canonical.com precise/dell-oem-sp1
[10:10] <Xtreme> :|
[10:10] <cfhowlett> AnAnt, right.  EZ method: backup /etc/apt/sources.list   do the upgrade but you should localize your sources list
[10:10]  * ObrienDave wonders if boot-repair might help masoudborbor 
[10:11] <masoudborbor> dunno why I cannot install that
[10:11] <masoudborbor> and the only problem is not grub. I have lost my prtitions too
[10:11] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, how did this happen?
[10:12] <masoudborbor> I installed ubuntu... left some unalocated space for data... then in windows (foolish me) went to disk manager and tried to make a new partition in that unallocted data...
[10:12] <ObrienDave> that should have been ok to do
[10:13] <masoudborbor> looks like it was not
[10:13] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, should have worked but ... stop partitioning.  backup your data.  NOW.
[10:13]  * ObrienDave agrees
[10:14] <ObrienDave> do you have an external USB drive to use?
[10:14] <masoudborbor> I have done that :)
[10:14] <masoudborbor> I have backed up all the data
[10:14] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, windows still works?
[10:14] <masoudborbor> nope
[10:14] <masoudborbor> no boot
[10:15] <masoudborbor> grub rescue>
[10:15] <masoudborbor> but all the folders and drives are mountable in linux live
[10:15] <masoudborbor> and I prefer to have both os's back
[10:15] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, been there.  done that.  first fix windows.
[10:15] <masoudborbor> because of the programs and custoizations
[10:15] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, boot your windows repair disk and fix.
[10:15] <masoudborbor> how to fix windows so?
[10:15] <kimse> I'm trying to setup an LXC host and I'm trying to configure a bridged network
[10:15] <kimse> so that the containers will obtain their IP address from the network DHCP server.
[10:16] <masoudborbor> wont that loose linux and partiotion tables n so?
[10:16] <Cnoob> Hey!I got a lot of photos that I want to rout 90 degre.Any idea how to do it?Any tool or s.th?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, nope.
[10:16] <kimse> However I'm having some difficulties getting it to work
[10:16] <Ben64> Cnoob: imagemagick
[10:16] <kimse> I've used this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/LXC/SimpleBridge
[10:16] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, you need to re-set windows boot setup.  use windows tools for that.   ask ##windows for details.  come back when fininshed.
[10:17] <Cnoob>  Ben64: thaks.I'll check it out.
[10:17] <felty> check check
[10:17] <felty> check it out
[10:17] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, image magick is ... magic.
[10:17] <felty> yo
[10:17] <masoudborbor> thanks
[10:17] <cfhowlett> felty, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:17] <felty> cfhowlett: I'm xubuntu user :)
[10:20] <masoudborbor> cfhowlett, thanks! gonna start that now... brb
[10:20] <Cnoob> Imagemagick is installed but I can't run it!says "no command found!".
[10:20] <antonio__> I'm using 12.10 and I'm getting ready to updgrade to the latest version.  I've just burned the latest version on a live DVD.  And I just finished backing up my home folder...What do I do next?
[10:21] <antonio__> Can I just run the new install...and then use the backup/restore to bring my home folder back?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> antonio__, sounds legit
[10:21] <Ben64> Cnoob: because it provides a bunch of binaries, none are actually named imagemagick
[10:22] <Cnoob> Ben64:So what to call now?
[10:22] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, fotoxx has basic manipulations tools
[10:22] <Ben64> Cnoob: you probably want convert or mogrify
[10:22] <Cnoob> want to rout.
[10:23] <Ben64> rout?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> rotate
[10:23] <Ben64> oh, well either convert or mogrify still
[10:23] <Cnoob> yes yes!:)
[10:23] <Ben64> Cnoob: http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php http://www.imagemagick.org/www/convert.html
[10:23] <Cnoob> bash: fotoxx: command not found
[10:24] <Cnoob> Ben64:thanks for links:)
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, read the links first ... fotoxx is a gui image manipulator but does the same things as imagemagick
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Ben64, tools for make a photo contact / proof sheet?
[10:25] <Ben64> can do that with convert
[10:25] <m-bd-m> hi
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Ben64, I mean batch photos, i.e. 4 x 5 spread of reduced size photos
[10:26] <PaulVern> I am running Xubuntu 14.04.  On bootup, mounting cryptswap1 fails each time, and I press S to skip
[10:26] <Ben64> cfhowlett: yeah i know
[10:26] <cfhowlett> Ben64, thanks.  reading
[10:26] <PaulVern> I re-installed Xubuntu 2* (formatting the whole SSD each time, still happens
[10:26] <PaulVern> my work around for now has been to comment it out in /etc/fstab
[10:26] <Ben64> imagemagick can do pretty much anything
[10:26] <PaulVern> but any idea what would cause this?
[10:27] <m-bd-m> hi! i cloned my ubuntu 14.04.1 x86 system to another hdd and its working in this other pc i put it in, but i got problems with this matrox video driver not giving nice output
[10:27] <Cnoob> can some just give me a command to roatate a image 90 degres to right without any other effects?
[10:27] <Ben64> Cnoob: do you want to make a copy and rotate or delete the original
[10:28] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, convert imagename -rotate 90 newimagename
[10:30] <Cnoob> cfhowlett: Thank you!
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Cnoob, happy2help
[10:34] <m-bd-m> hey! whats the difference betweem X and Xorg?
[10:35] <vitimiti> m-bd-m, X is the graphical server of X.org
[10:35] <vitimiti> Simplified
[10:36] <m-bd-m> and why does puppy linux gives better quality picture than ubuntu (both using kernel module 'mga')
[10:36] <vitimiti> Ubuntu gives me 720p, which is the maximum my screen can have
[10:37] <m-bd-m> vitimiti: its a cloned system, how do i reconfigure graphics? `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-mga`?
[10:38] <vitimiti> m-bd-m, I don't really know, but that should reconfigure the package, yeah
[10:39] <minimec> m-bd-m: I would check it you have a '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'. I you don't have that file, all configuration is done by the xserver itself..
[10:39] <m-bd-m> minimec: i dont have it...
[10:39] <m-bd-m> how do i regenerate that file?
[10:42] <minimec> m-bd-m: switch to a console with <ctrl><alt>F1 and login. Then 'sudo service lightdm stop', then sudo Xorg -configure. That will generate a xorg.conf and save it into your /home/youruser directory. Afterwardes 'sudo service lightdm start && exit' to restart the xserver.
[10:42] <minimec> m-bd-m: These commands give you the actual xorg.conf that the xserver is using for your device.
[10:42] <hist44883334> hey everybody
[10:45] <zapu> I use lxc container to develop my software so I don't pollute my system with all the services and libs it needs. How can I mount my source tree either host->guest or guest->host without breaking file ownership and permissions?
[10:46] <zapu> When I just mount host directory on guest, I get nobody/nogroup ownership (65534/65534)
[10:46] <zapu> Ideally I'd edit the files on host side but run them in container
[10:47] <cfhowlett> Ben64, found it!  thanks for the direction.  montage +polaroid mymontage.jpg           was perfect!
[10:47] <jberg_> how can i make something that tracks everything i download with my mobile broadband? a daemon, kernel module or something else?
[10:48] <Joe_Strummer> hi. is it possible to install ubuntu 14.04 without grub? I have a hd with also debian and kali. I wanted to install also ubuntk but i thought there was the possible to checkbox called "skip grub installation", but now i can'find it. The problem is that I have debian in an encrypted partition, and if I install ubuntu, grub won't find debian encrypted partition. Sorry for my poor english. Thanks.
[10:48] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, of course!  just don't install the bootloader
[10:49] <Joe_Strummer> there is no more the checkbox "skip grub install".
[10:49] <felty> LiSA
[10:52] <k1l> felty: could you reduce the offside comments in here?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, what bootloader are you running?
[10:53] <felty> anyone know how much swap area shoud i set?
[10:54] <k1l> felty: at least as much as you got ram
[10:54] <Joe_Strummer> debian. The problem is that if i run ubuntu grub, it won'find debian encrypted partition anymore, but it will find only kali
[10:54] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, worst case: grub installs.  reinstall the debian bootloader to repair
[10:54] <cfhowlett> felty, formula seems to be RAM x 2
[10:54] <felty> k1l: at least? I have 5Gb RAM. I heard that just 2 Gb swap field  will be ok
[10:55] <felty> cfhowlett: oh....seriously?....
[10:55] <k1l> felty: no hibernation possible then
[10:55] <Joe_Strummer> so i wanted to install ubuntu without grub, and then give "update-grub" from debian.
[10:55] <felty> k1l:except of that issue, is there any other reason of setting RAM-sized-swap field?
[10:56] <felty> k1l: I already solve that problem
[10:56] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, debian uses grub????
[10:56] <k1l> felty: i dont have a swap at all. so if you dont want hibernation you can set any amount you like
[10:56] <Joe_Strummer> yes, 1.99
[10:56] <Joe_Strummer> debian wheezy
[10:57] <felty> k1l:oh main reason is hibernation?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> Joe_Strummer, OK ... I think you first idea was the right way: don't install ubuntu grub.   Should be possible to skip that step.  don't know why you're not seeing the option.
[10:59] <k1l> felty: the main reason to set swap to a specific amount (at elast ram size) is hibernation. if you dont want that you can set it to what you like. even 0
[10:59] <Joe_Strummer> the problem is that I can't find how to skip.in ubuntu there's no more the checkbox "skip grub install".
[11:00] <felty> k1l: wow thanks for ur lesson
[11:01] <eda_> chromium web browser does not run adobe flash player. how can i fix this problem? ( Xubuntu 14.04.1 )
[11:01] <hateball> eda_: install pepper-flash
[11:02] <hateball> eda_: "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[11:03] <eda_> why do i have to install pepper-flash hateball
[11:04] <Ben64> eda_: because you want flash...
[11:06] <UnixBird> Hi everyone
[11:06] <felty> hi :)
[11:06] <eda_> thx Ben64 hateball
[11:09] <felty> does xubuntu install VGA Driver automatically?
[11:09] <UnixBird> I'm set for mysql as root started after installation, and I need to change data in the ~/.my.cnf. file. I have to change what ?
[11:09] <k1l> felty: it installs the free drivers, yes.
[11:09] <k1l> felty: if you want the prop. drivers you need to manually install them form the ubuntu repo
[11:11] <felty> k1l: how can i know there is proper VGA driver in my devide
[11:12] <felty> *device
[11:12] <Gear_> which usb creator is best?
[11:12] <k1l> felty: what video card do you got?
[11:12] <nestle33> i have a ubuntu installation that is still running 13.10. I've ran apt-get update;apt-get upgrade and it says ( The following packages have been kept back:   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic ) so my question is: Should I run apt-get dist-upgrade, and THEN do-release-upgrade (to get to 14.x) or should i just skip dist-upgrade and go straight to do-release-upgrade ?
[11:12] <k1l> Gear_: there is not "best"
[11:12] <felty> k1l: Nvidia
[11:13] <k1l> felty: well. if your card is still supported (like in not very old) you can just install the "nvidia-current" package
[11:15] <Gear_> ok one that works
[11:16] <ObrienDave> !usb
[11:16] <minimec> nestle33: Well linux-image-generic is a rather important package. It is used for all the kernel updates. So I would make sure, that there are no longer any 'kept back' packages before you start the upgrade process.
[11:16] <felty> k1l: I've already installed it but Idk actually there's proper driver
[11:17] <felty> k1l: can i see VGA driver list in Terminal?
[11:17] <k1l> felty: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[11:19] <felty> k1l: no such PCI access method
[11:20] <felty> k1l: it means there's no driver?
[11:20] <k1l> felty: please show a "lspci" in a pastebin
[11:23] <felty> pasetbin?
[11:23] <k1l> !paste | felty
[11:25] <felty> oh! thanks
[11:25] <felty> mayber after 50 min. I'll show u
[11:26] <k1l> o_O
[11:33] <Gear_> I have ah hp zd8000
[11:33] <Gear_> how do I get the wifi working?
[11:34] <Gear_> had to install 32bit ubuntu
[11:34] <Mion> why 32bit?
[11:35] <Mion> anyway, lspci and find out what card is in that thing
[11:35] <Mion> lspci | grep Wireless
[11:35] <Mion> post output if any
[11:36] <Gear_> 64bit didn't work with the ethernet for some reason
[11:36] <Mion> Gear_: probably unrelated
[11:37] <Mion> 32bit vs 64bit doesn't mean anything when it comes to network drivers
[11:37] <Gear_> it doesn't matter either way
[11:37] <Gear_> there's not enough ram for it to matter
[11:38] <k1l> ram size is not the reason for 64bit.
[11:38] <Gear_> ok
[11:38] <Mion> and please post the output already
[11:38] <Gear_> still doesn't matter
[11:39] <Gear_> I can't yet, it's still installing
[11:40] <Mion> you can use lspci on the installer
[11:40] <Gear_> yeah
[11:40] <k1l> !b43
[11:41] <usr13> Gear_: does iwconfig show you anything?
[11:41] <Gear_> it's not totally installed yet
[11:42] <Gear_> but I'm looking at that broadcom page
[11:42] <k1l> then let it install first before you start fiddeling
[11:42] <Gear_> there's no other option :)
[11:42] <usr13> Gear_: You have a functioning OS running now, you can run iwconfig or lspci if you want.
[11:44] <Hightower_> Getting a "forbidden" error on some web pages (not all)
[11:44] <Gear_> it's not functioning yet
[11:44] <Hightower_> Checking permissions on specific pages and they are the same as the pages that work ok?
[11:44] <usr13> Gear_: What is not functioning?
[11:45] <Gear_> ubuntu is still installing
[11:45] <Gear_> but the wifi is a chipset that's problematic apparently
[11:45] <k1l> Gear_: are you in a live system?
[11:45] <Gear_> I'm on a different computer
[11:45] <usr13> Gear_: Are you using the alternate or liveCD?
[11:46] <Gear_> usb stick with 14.04 32bit
[11:48] <BURTONV> HI
[11:49] <k1l> Gear_: so start a new terminal in that live system and enter that command "lspci".
[11:49] <usr13> Gear_: You can still check to see what lspic or iwconfig reports about your wireless NIC
[11:49] <wild_oscar> hi. just upgraded to 14.04, was using gnome before. How does one add programs to the list of program Dash searches in? I had a few programs added in Gnome (I can see them in alacarte), but if I search unity for the program's name it doesn't show up. the program is in /usr/bin/
[11:49] <wild_oscar> (and I installed it directly from a .deb file)
[11:50] <g0th> hi
[11:50] <g0th> how can I let firefox handle .ics files by importing them into google calendar?
[11:50] <g0th> is there no application which acts like an adaptor around google calendar?
[11:50] <usr13> Gear_: lspci |grep ireless
[11:50] <k1l> wild_oscar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191919/new-app-doesnt-appear-in-unity-dash
[11:50] <g0th> something that I can choose as a default application for .ics files
[11:52] <mohsen-rashidi> hello there
[11:52] <mohsen-rashidi> How can i find out if my graphic card`s driver is installed?
[11:52] <k1l> mohsen-rashidi:  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[11:52] <mks1209> hi, I was able to make a bootable usb drive, i have win8 on laptop, can i get some help understanding - how select the drive and boot loader
[11:53] <mohsen-rashidi> k1l: thanks
[11:53] <usr13> mks1209: Are you able to boot to it?
[11:53] <UnixBird> One to help me ? lol
[11:53] <usr13> mks1209: Is that your question:  How do I boot to the USB drive?
[11:54] <mks1209> yes and run the installation but it doesnt seem to understand that there already is win8
[11:54] <wild_oscar> k1l:  does one need to register the new .desktop file somehow? because simply adding it to ~/..applications won't cut it
[11:54] <mks1209> SDA5 is where i want to install ubuntu
[11:54] <usr13> mks1209: Reboot the computer, watch for "Boot Options" or something to that effect. (It varies from PC to PC.)
[11:55] <mks1209> usr13: i got the installation going
[11:55] <k1l> wild_oscar: ~/.local/share/applications
[11:55] <k1l> and then relogin. then that should be loaded
[11:55] <usr13> mks1209: Ok. I see.  Now, do you have any free space set aside for the install?  (You need to have un-partitioned free space for the Ubuntu install.)
[11:55] <mks1209> usr13: but drives name dont appear and i am afraid to screw up the win8 installation
[11:56] <mks1209> i created SDA5 in win8
[11:56] <usr13> mks1209: drive names are sda sdb sdc   partitions are sda1 sda2 sda3 etc.
[11:56] <hateball> running "sudo fdisk -l" should show you what filesystems are on various partitions, if there's any doubt
[11:56] <mks1209> usr13: should i create new partition
[11:57] <usr13> mks1209: Then delete sda5 and use that free-space (the ubunut installer will re-create it's own partition(s).
[11:57] <usr13> mks1209: Yes, delete sda5 and create new partitions
[11:58] <mks1209> usr13: no option to delete in installer, should i go to win8 and delete there
[11:58] <usr13> mks1209: Are you sure?
[11:59] <usr13> mks1209: (I'm pretty sure you can do what you need from the installer's partition manager.)
[11:59] <mks1209> usr13: right click gives no option, there is format?, or revert
[11:59] <mellhen> hey guys iam in the process to update my server from 12.04 to 14.04 and am stuck in a stupid situation. the process asked me to compare the new and the old conf file of my ssh server. i pressed "D" to compare and now i cant get out and continue the process. If i do ctrl + c i will abort the installation process. What can i press to get out of this config file comparison?
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: Ok, then make it a little smaller, (there is more-than-likely a resize option).  You need room for swap partition.
[12:00] <k1l> mellhen: q
[12:00] <JesseDhammu> hello
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: How much RAM do you have?
[12:00] <mellhen> thanks a lot :D
[12:00] <mks1209> usr13: 16gb
[12:00] <usr13> mks1209: What size is the partition?
[12:00] <mks1209> 212gb
[12:00] <JesseDhammu> can anyone suggest me the best IM client for ubuntu 14
[12:01] <mellhen> k1l: thanks! it worked
[12:01] <JesseDhammu> and a cleaner program like janitor ..?
[12:01] <usr13> mks1209: Size it down by 16gb so that you can have a separate swap partition (16g or slightly larger).
[12:02] <usr13> mks1209: I have to go now... (taking my grand-daughter to school), I'll be back in 3/4 hour, for little while.
[12:02] <usr13> mks1209: Someone else will help you now...
[12:03] <mks1209> usr13: on the installation type: i am choosing - Something else
[12:03] <mks1209> usr13: ok tks
[12:04] <wild_oscar> k1l: thanks
[12:05] <BURTONV> ghj
[12:08] <linux> woami
[12:09] <mdanielk> hello
[12:10] <priuon> hello. How do I configure the numeric timezone manually? I read about the directory /usr/share/zoneinfo/, but the files are not readable with $ cat or $ nano.
[12:10] <masoudborbor> I have windows 7 and I want to install ubuntu alongside that. but I have these options: install ubuntu inside windows 7, replace windows 7 with ubuntu, something else
[12:11] <mdanielk> you can do it by choose first opion
[12:11] <mdanielk> option
[12:11] <masoudborbor> installing ubuntu "inside" windows 7 wont hurt my windows?
[12:11] <mdanielk> no, it will be okay
[12:12] <masoudborbor> tx
[12:15] <Gear_> how long should you expect an ubuntu install to take on a pentium 4 with 2gb ram and ati graphics
[12:16] <Gear_> it gets to the "configuring bcmwl-kernel-source and seems to not progress from there
[12:16] <bananabob> hey guys, simple question probably from the string "pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-3.2.0/linux-backports-modules-cw-3.11-3.2.0-69-virtual_3.2.0-69.61_amd64.deb" how do i only grep the actual filename? The string beeing from the pool can differ in length ofc so i need to grep it from the / until the .deb
[12:17] <facepalm> Gear_ depends on install method... Flash drive, dvd, etc. USB 2.0, 3.0? I'm say between 10 and 30 minutes.
[12:17] <Fuchs> Gear_: that probably involves compiling a third party kernel modul, extracting firmware or similar, that might take a little while longer than the other takss
[12:17] <Fuchs> *tasks, even
[12:17] <Gear_> ok, this is the 3rd attempt, the first two the ethernet cable got yanked
[12:20] <k1l> masoudborbor: dont use the "inside option"
[12:22] <monkeynutts> can anyone help me with a perl cpan module install.
[12:22] <mozzarella> guys help
[12:23] <priuon> I am trying to find a way to make a new TimeZone file. the one in /etc/localtime shows TZif2 in the beginning of the file.
[12:23] <monkeynutts> http://pastebin.com/N7WAcADf
[12:23] <masoudborbor> k1l, what to do then?
[12:24] <k1l> masoudborbor: "inside windows" is the wubi install. that will make trouble in near future and is very hard to support.
[12:24] <k1l> masoudborbor: what partition layout do you have there?
[12:24] <mozzarella> where can I download ubuntu 14.10, at least the beta version
[12:24] <k1l> mozzarella: see #ubuntu+1 and see topic
[12:24] <masoudborbor> k1l, the problem is that! the partition layout. I have a windows partition, a data partition and 50 gb free space for liux...
[12:25] <masoudborbor> k1l, the "disks" utility in ubuntu sees that, but gparted and the linux installer shows somthing else
[12:25] <masoudborbor> looks like I have my partition table gone or corrupt. dunno how to fix that
[12:25] <k1l> masoudborbor: is this a gpt partition table?
[12:27] <masoudborbor> dunno what does it mean!
[12:27] <masoudborbor> how to check that?
[12:27] <k1l> masoudborbor: at least you could use "other" and setup the partitions for ubunut on your own.
[12:28] <masoudborbor> k1l, I tried that but it doesnt show the partitions I have (in windows and disk utilty) but the one gparted
[12:28] <cfhowlett> masoudborbor, that suggests gpt partition
[12:28] <masoudborbor> maybe
[12:29] <masoudborbor> what to do to install linux alongside windows now... or to fix the partition table problem
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:32] <mks1209> i am facing same issue as masoudborbor
[12:33] <mks1209> the partition i want to install on shows as free space
[12:36] <BluesKaj> mks1209, use a partitioner like gparted to create an ext4 partition on the freespace
[12:36] <mks1209> primary or logical?
[12:37] <mks1209> also what mount point?
[12:37] <BluesKaj> mks1209, depends ahow many primaries you already have
[12:37] <mohsen-rashidi> Hello there
[12:37] <mohsen-rashidi> is 'i915' name of a graphic cards driver?
[12:38] <mks1209> BluesKaj: i have win8 already on the machine
[12:38] <Slart> mohsen-rashidi: I think it's a graphics chip.. there might be a driver by the same name as well
[12:38] <BluesKaj> mks1209, do you intend to keep W8?
[12:38] <k1l> mohsen-rashidi: yes. its the intel video card driver
[12:38] <mks1209> yes
[12:38] <mohsen-rashidi> thanks
[12:39] <BluesKaj> i915 is an intel graphics driver
[12:40] <BluesKaj> !uefi | mks1209
[12:46] <pbx> i'd like a theme that indicates the active window more prominently.  any suggestions?
[12:46] <pbx> (14.04)
[12:47] <pbx> also, unrelated - as a recent migrant from OSX, when i have multiple windows in an app and close one, i'm used to the next one coming forward. is there a way to get ubuntu/unity to do this?
[12:50] <jop> n
[12:50] <jop> hi
[12:51] <nevada> hello
[12:52] <zhong> who can help me solve this prolem:I turned off the desktop notifications, how to start?
[12:52] <nevada> where can I find a good tutorial about safely sharing files on 2 computers using samba?
[12:52] <soahccc> Which signal is the "normal" one to tell an application to quit? I thought it would be QUIT but the app seems to ignore that. It quits on INT or TERM but I'm not sure if these are to harsh.
[12:53] <krasnayarsk> zhong: what DE? KDE?
[12:53] <zhong> krasnayarsk: xfce
[12:53] <krasnayarsk> zhong: Dunno
[12:53] <zhong> krasnayarsk: xubuntu...
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> I only know kde a little.
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> zhong: perhaps there is a channel for xubuntu?
[12:54] <zhong> krasnayarsk: :(
[12:54] <krasnayarsk> srry
[12:56] <BluesKaj> nevada, between linux and windows?
[12:56] <krasnayarsk> zhong: Perhaps this will help - http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce
[12:57] <krasnayarsk> BluesKaj: Yes. Or between 2 linux computers.
[12:57] <mks1209> thanks all, i chose the EFI partition already showing, formatted the partition for ubuntu using ext4 and mount as /
[12:57] <mks1209> and it moved forward
[12:57] <zhong> krasnayarsk: 3q
[12:57] <krasnayarsk> zhong: what is 3q?
[12:58] <zhong> krasnayarsk: chinese english.....thank you
[12:58] <zhong> krasnayarsk: :)
[12:58] <krasnayarsk> zhong: you're welcome :)
[12:59] <i4saken> Hi zhong:)
[12:59] <zhong> i4saken: hi~
[12:59] <i4saken> I’m Chinese too, lol
[12:59] <i4saken> zhong: try join ubuntu-cn
[12:59] <zhong> wa oh~~
[13:00] <zhong> i4saken: OK
[13:00] <BluesKaj> nevada, this an old tutorial, but it should still apply http://askubuntu.com/questions/16104/share-between-ubuntu-machines
[13:01] <nevada> BluesKaj: Thank you. I will read it now.
[13:27] <smithzv_> I'm having a heck of a time upgrading to 14.04.  The video using nouveau is extremely slow (much worse than with 13.10) and installing the nvidia drivers, my strong preference, leaves you in a blank screen after the Ubuntu splash screen on boot (and C-A-F1 does nothing).  I gathered the Xorg for 13.10 using nouveau, 14.04.1 using nouveau, and 14.04.1 using nvidia 331, to compare.  Nvidia logs simply end with "NVIDIA(0): Enabling 2D acceleration".  Any help 
[13:28] <reisio> very comprehensive
[13:28] <reisio> smithzv_: can you CTRL+ALT+F2 from the black screen?
[13:29] <smithzv_> reisio: no, no other terminals are accessible
[13:29] <smithzv_> no terminals at all, the thing seems hung
[13:29] <reisio> 'no' would have sufficed :p
[13:29] <smithzv_> rught
[13:29] <reisio> can you get to the GRUB menu?
[13:30] <smithzv_> sure, hold on
[13:30] <reisio> should be a rescue mode / recovery mode listing, boot that
[13:31] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, going to advanded options, then booting 3.13.0-36-generic recovery
[13:32] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, at the recovery menu
[13:32] <smithzv_> reisio: btw, right now nouveau is installed
[13:36] <smithzv_> reisio: did you want me to try failsafeX boot?
[13:37] <reisio> smithzv_: sure
[13:39] <fancyfetus> hey guys
[13:39] <reisio> heyo
[13:39] <rafaht> hi! i've updated my ubuntu server yesterday and have a problem with squid. i changed squid folder to squid3 in configurations, removed squid, etc and the problem is solved, for a moment
[13:39] <rafaht> but, the squid logs doesn't working
[13:39] <rafaht> http://pastebin.com/KVUVEwSj
[13:39] <rafaht> my configs
[13:39] <fancyfetus> Would anybody recommend against running ubuntu on a macbook pro retina 13?
[13:39] <rafaht> and i don't know what is happening with this
[13:39] <fancyfetus> all considered, I can't find a laptop of similar build and with the same features for the same price :/
[13:40] <daftykins> fancyfetus: people have issues getting it installed, or attempting to have it as the only OS installed - so don't get one thinking it's guaranteed to work
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: then you aren't trying very hard :)
[13:40] <smithzv_> reisio: surprisingly (with nouveau installed), that didn't work.  Log says: Screen(s) found, but noe have a usable configuration.... Fatal server error: no screens found"
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: should work fine
[13:40] <reisio> smithzv_: can you get to CTRL+ALT+F2 ?
[13:40] <fancyfetus> reisio, open to ideas. Looking for 1440p screen, thin, well built and a good battery life.
[13:40] <reisio> fancyfetus: sounds like the majority of ultrabooks
[13:41] <fancyfetus> daftykins, I'd probably dual boot windows and ubuntu
[13:41] <daftykins> fancyfetus: yeah not going to happen.
[13:41] <rafaht> i copy and paste the squid.conf from another server when it's working to this and changed the configurations (ips) to this server, but doesn't working
[13:41] <rafaht> :/
[13:41] <fancyfetus> reisio, ultrabooks are much more expensive than the equivalent macbook.
[13:41] <reisio> fancyfetus: no particular reason you can't do that
[13:41] <smithzv_> reisio: Also, I see (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0xd00 out of range
[13:41] <reisio> fancyfetus: nah, they're about the same
[13:41] <reisio> they figure they can charge as much as Apple does (200%) for them
[13:41] <reisio> so they do
[13:41] <smithzv_> reisio: yes, but nothing is there, it dumped my back to the recovery menu
[13:42] <reisio> smithzv_: it?
[13:42] <fancyfetus> reisio, I've looked at Asus Zenbook, Acer S7, Dell XPS, Surface Pro 3, Lenovo X1 Carbon
[13:42] <smithzv_> reisio: when failsafe failed to start Xorg, it gave an error, waited about 5 seconds, then the recovery menu came back up
[13:42] <fancyfetus> they are all 1080p, shit battery
[13:43] <reisio> fancyfetus: get a mac if you want
[13:43] <smithzv_> I got that info from the root shell to access the logs
[13:43] <reisio> smithzv_: then that's a 'no'
[13:43] <fancyfetus> and a lot of ultrabooks these days have either detachable screens or flip screens. It's a shame. I have 0 use for a touch screen.
[13:43] <reisio> smithzv_: when you get to the grub menu, edit one of the items and put ' single' after the line with the kernel in it
[13:43] <reisio> fancyfetus: 0? :p
[13:43] <smithzv_> reisio: sorry, but different behavior from the hung like state
[13:44] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, on it
[13:44] <awm> çàõîäè íå ïîæàëååøü òóò êðóòî http://cibq.alkerz.ru/84247/2963685/
[13:44] <fancyfetus> reiso, well I'm sure I have SOME use for it, but I've had tablets and didn't like them. So why would I want a laptop with a shitty detachable keyboard?
[13:45] <reisio> fancyfetus: I'm guessing you don't have to detach it unless you have to
[13:45] <reisio> doesn't really matter to me
[13:46] <fancyfetus> reisio, that's true. But there is no denying that it puts the laptop at a whole in a disatvantage.
[13:46] <fancyfetus> Now all the important hardware is in the "screen" and the keyboard is probably not as good as a regular laptop keyboard.
[13:46] <smithzv_> reisio: to clarify, by "after the line" you mean at the end of the line, correct?  Booted, try failsafe again?
[13:46] <reisio> smithzv_: line single
[13:47] <smithzv_> reisio: sorry, let me redo that...
[13:51] <Guest33992> #kali-linux
[13:54] <smithzv_> reisio: with single option I see the same behavior in failsafe
[13:55] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng ubunt 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my widows-college, change it back and network is working.
[14:00] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng Ubuntu 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my windows-college, change it back and now network is working.
[14:02] <reisio> smithzv_: well boot your live OS then
[14:05] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, right now I only have 13.10 on a thumb drive, you want me to make a 14.04 one first?  Also, note that I can boot the system right now using nouveau, just not in failsafe for some reason.
[14:06] <reisio> smithzv_: oh? Okay then boot using nouveau
[14:07] <smithzv_> reisio: okay, booted
[14:07] <reisio> smithzv_: so the problem is you want nvidia?
[14:08] <smithzv_> reisio: yes (or better performance from nouveau, significantly slower than 13.10)
[14:09] <BobBall> Hey - Does anyone here have more than one instance of 'system-udevd --daemon'?
[14:09] <fancyfetus> reisio, I found one! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KTL21RA/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
[14:10] <BobBall> I've got a broken machine which happens to have 5 'system-udevd --daemon' processes running which seems very odd and counter to a couple of 'working' machines
[14:12] <TJ-> BobBall: Does that host use chroots or containers?
[14:13] <gp5st1> Hello, we have an old machine whose harddisk was just moved to a machine with a british keyboard (machine = laptop) the admin password had a # in it.  Now, the # can be typed, but when entering the password it keeps failing
[14:13] <jarchik>  Hi! Could someone help me with network issue. Im usinng Ubuntu 14.04 in Windows network and each time i started pc, network is not working. Then i have to change network connectors within me and my windows-college, change it back and now network is working.
[14:13] <gp5st1> is there a way to get the machine to reboot into single user mode
[14:14] <BobBall> TJ-: No
[14:14] <reisio> gp5st1: sure it wasn't the other char the '#' key had?
[14:14] <reisio> gp5st1: yes, same as ever?
[14:14] <gp5st1> reisio: we type it out in plain text so we can see the #
[14:14] <BobBall> TJ-: (possibly) - we apply a whole bunch of puppet manifets which could be doing anything
[14:14] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, which nvidia gpu?
[14:15] <BobBall> TJ-: No chroots are running at the moment
[14:15] <gp5st1> reisio: It doesn't seem to show the grub screen. forgot that part
[14:15] <reisio> gp5st1: hard to imagine that's the problem
[14:15] <reisio> gp5st1: but just boot it in single user mode or from a live OS and change the pass
[14:15] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: it is a GeForce GT 330M
[14:15] <gp5st1> reisio: i'll give that a shot
[14:15] <gp5st1> forget the power of live cds
[14:15] <reisio> :)
[14:16] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: It also says GT216M in lspci (not sure what that is about)
[14:18] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, you mentioned the 331 driver earlier, have you tried to install it?
[14:18] <TJ-> BobBall: When a chroot does some update that causes it to (re)start a service you often get multiple daemons running, so that is one possibility.
[14:19] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: yes (many different times, in defferent ways)
[14:20] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, and it fails to install or you can't get to the desktop or....?
[14:20] <BobBall> TJ-: Is it a problem?  I just discovered that "udevadm trigger -v" unblocks the system very nicely
[14:20] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: sorry, it installs fine, but upon reboot I get a blank screen after the Ubuntu splash screen (before lightdm or whatever login manager we are using these days)
[14:21] <TJ-> gp5st1: "#" key on GB keyboard is usually the unshifted key to the left of the lower half of the Enter key
[14:21] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, and you can't get to the VT/TTY ?
[14:22] <TJ-> BobBall: Sounds like udev was waiting on something
[14:22] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: nope
[14:22] <Ivan_000> Hello
[14:22] <BobBall> TJ-: Do you have any hints on debugging what it was waiting for?  I've got another 3 servers waiting in the same blocked state for more debugging :)
[14:23] <TJ-> smithzv_: Boot with "nomodeset text" on the kernel's command-line (entered via the GRUB menu entry editor); that should get you a text console without trying to start the X server
[14:23] <smithzv_> TJ-: okay, doing that now
[14:24] <TJ-> BobBall: That sounds a bit weird... Probably won't help but check the udev log, and kern.log, syslog, too
[14:24] <smithzv_> TJ-: Actually, first I need to reinstall nvidia drivers, just a sec
[14:24] <Ivan_000> How do I install tor on Ubuntu
[14:24] <k1l> !tor | Ivan_000
[14:24] <starlight_> Hi folks
[14:25] <starlight_> is there an ATL-TAB (from windows) equivelant in Unity?
[14:25] <starlight_> ALT*
[14:25] <Ivan_000> Thank You ubottu
[14:25] <TJ-> smithzv_: The console should run using VESA text mode without needing the nvidia/nouveau drivers
[14:25] <k1l> starlight_: just press alt+tab
[14:25] <starlight_> k1l: I have tried this in full-screen games and it doesn't do anything
[14:25] <smithzv_> TJ-: right, but if I am troubleshooting, I need it to be broken first
[14:26] <k1l> starlight_: well, maybe the game catches that shortcut
[14:26] <starlight_> k1l: alright, so it is definitely ALT-TAB for Unity?
[14:26] <TJ-> smithzv_: I thought you were trying to recover from broken drivers causing blank VTs
[14:27] <k1l> starlight_: just press it. or you can hold super (windows button) and see all shortcuts
[14:27] <smithzv_> TJ-: no, I am trying to get the broken drivers working.  I have already recovered via recovery shell and remove the nvidia drivers
[14:27] <TJ-> smithzv_: Ahhh... ok.... can you show us "pastebinit < <(lspci -nnk)" ?
[14:27] <smithzv_> sure
[14:29] <BobBall> TJ-: udev logs show nothing has been added to the system for hours - I assume you would expect udevadm trigger -v to add some items there?
[14:30] <smithzv_> TJ-: it is at paste.ubuntu.com/8418502
[14:31] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, have you tried editing grub with nomodeset in order to remove the regular 331 driver and replacing it with the nvidia-331-updates, which wilkl probly work since i had t
[14:32] <TJ-> smithzv_: Is it on an iMac ?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> a similar problem. smithzv_
[14:32] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: no, I'll do that very soon once I answer TJ- questions
[14:33] <smithzv_> TJ-: It is a MacBook Pro (I think a 5th generation, pretty old by now but not that old)
[14:34] <f00dWorksta> Hi, need some help if possible: when right clicking on a menu item on the unity sidebar, the menu appears behind everything so I can't see it.
[14:34] <smithzv_> TJ-: I am going to reboot and try this nomodeset thing, any other info you want about the system before I do?
[14:35] <TJ-> smithzv_: Yes. Is there an "/var/log/dmesg.X" from when the system started with the nvidia driver installed, so I can see the "NVRM" reports it made ?
[14:35] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: yes, I have that
[14:35] <smithzv_> hold on
[14:35] <mad_hatter> is there a way to install ubuntu from windows
[14:35] <TJ-> smithzv_: "zgrep NVRM /var/log/dmesg*" to identify such files
[14:35] <k1l> mad_hatter: use a live-dvd/usb and reboot
[14:35] <mad_hatter> no usb
[14:35] <Zataraa> hi
[14:36] <mad_hatter> no cd
[14:36] <mad_hatter> no dvd
[14:36] <Zataraa> I have a doubt
[14:36] <TJ-> mad_hatter: Yes, via a Virtual Machine
[14:36] <mad_hatter> ok, i like that idea
[14:36] <mad_hatter> but i want my hard drive to only have ubuntu on it
[14:37] <k1l> mad_hatter: honestly: its way simpler to just get a dvd or a usb-drive
[14:38] <mad_hatter> not possible at this time...unless i could use my iphone as a usb
[14:38] <k1l> no
[14:38] <mad_hatter> damn
[14:38] <smithzv_> TJ-: it is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8418539/
[14:39] <daftykins> mad_hatter: buy a USB flash drive
[14:39] <mad_hatter> <--- broke
[14:40] <smithzv_> TJ-: I also have Xorg logs, which are mainly what I have been looking at.  I just copied the log dir on interesting boots
[14:40] <tnli> Mmm, I bought a laptop with intel wireless 7260, running now ubuntu 14.04, is there any benefit wth the new wireless drivers for kernel 3.14?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, I thought you couldn't get to the vt/tty (ctl+alt+F1-F6) to read the logs?
[14:42] <TJ-> smithzv_: Does that system have independent or hybrid dual GPUs? I'm wondering if you have an issue with the Nvidia Optimus aka Bumblebee drivers ?
[14:42] <k1l> mad_hatter: see if there is a ubuntu loco team in your area and see if they can help you.
[14:43] <smithzv_> TJ-: I think that this laptop predates that Optimus stuff.  I had been using it for years before I heard about the Optimus/Bumblebee thing.
[14:43] <TJ-> smithzv_: There are a lot of i915 errors in the log, some of which could be the cause if the i915 driver is trying to take precedence
[14:43] <n83808> italiani?
[14:44] <XMerrow> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:44] <smithzv_> BluesKaj: I couldn't, but I could restart, go into recover, mount the drive rw, and do what I please from a root shell, including removing 331
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !it | n83808
[14:44] <n83808> thanks
[14:44] <n83808> #ubuntu-it
[14:45] <smithzv_> TJ-: Okay, sounds reasonable, is there a way to tell Xorg/whatever to prefer the Nvidia drivers?  (In the Xorg logs, both are listed, but the Nvidia card has a '*' by it, I figured that meant that it was preferred)
[14:46] <BluesKaj> smithzv_, yes that was going to be my next suggestion, then remove the 331 and install nvidia-331-updates. It should work for you
[14:46] <TJ-> smithzv_: see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/300953/how-can-i-improve-battery-life-on-my-laptop
[14:47] <TJ-> smithzv_: your system reports "[    0.000000] DMI: Apple Inc. MacBookPro6,2/Mac-F22586C8, BIOS    MBP61.88Z.0057.B0A.1005121001 05/12/10"
[14:47] <smithzv_> TJ-: Okay, I'll take a look, I am going to try these 331-updates though I must have tried it before.  Thanks
[14:48] <TJ-> smithzv_: According to what I'm reading, that MacBook does have Nvidia Optimus
[14:48] <smithzv_> TJ-: well I'll be, that is pretty surprising (to me)
[14:49] <smithzv_> TJ-: so, I should figure out how to install bumblebee drivers?
[14:49] <BluesKaj> TJ-, uhoh then we're into intel and nvidia drivers and bumblebe
[14:49] <TJ-> smithzv_: Apparently it gets worse, I'm reading that Apple didn't use Optimus itself, but their own home-brewed version?
[14:50] <TJ-> smithzv_: "All of the 15" and 17" MacBook Pros combine the on-package Intel HD integrated graphics with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M GPU. Apple is using something similar to NVIDIA's Optimus technology (as expected), which switches between the integrated Intel graphics and the discrete NVIDIA GPU on the fly. However, the technical details differ from NVIDIA's solution."
[14:50] <BluesKaj> luvly :(
[14:51] <smithzv_> TJ-: ... it is crazy that this took, like, 5 years to bite me...
[14:52] <sunkist> Is there a FOSS option for web archiving?  Something like the CMS for archive.org?
[14:53] <daftykins> sunkist: doesn't sound much like an Ubuntu support question
[14:53] <sunkist> I would run it on ubuntu!
[14:54] <smithzv_> TJ-: thanks for the link, that seems like actionable advice.  I really just need it running well enough to work at this point.
[14:54] <sunkist> (a very old) mediawiki is in the repos, I wasn't sure if something else would be there.
[14:56] <TJ-> smithzv_: This is the most recent Ubuntu-specific info I can find on that model, but it might help you find something more recent, or more specific to the video issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Raring
[14:56] <scalability-junk> Is this being worked on? http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2014/09/24/10 debian already has a patch. Ubuntu doesn't seems so.
[14:57] <k1l> scalability-junk: the apt bug? there was just a update
[14:57] <scalability-junk> k1l: the bash security vuln.
[14:57] <Virca7844> Hi, when i try to install ubuntu, i not see dev/sda but dev/mapper/isw_bifcjccbhb_ARRAY1 to ARRAY5, then again. Help me plz :)
[14:58] <smithzv_> TJ-: thanks again
[15:00] <Virca7844> And all disks are double!
[15:00] <k1l> scalability-junk: see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/ . if its not there file a bug if there is no bug yet.
[15:01] <Virca7844> Nobody can help...
[15:03] <k1l> Virca7844: so that is a raid setup?
[15:03] <Virca7844> Probably! Can you explain step by step?
[15:03] <Virca7844> Or link?
[15:04] <k1l> Virca7844: well, you should know what you want to do in the first place.
[15:04] <Virca7844> 14.04.1, dell xps m1730
[15:05] <Virca7844> I wanna install ubuntu, i have partition with 10 gb free and win 7 with another 200 gb
[15:05] <eeee> Virca7844: resize the windows partition
[15:05] <Phyliares> Can someone tell me if .config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks understands variables like "file:///mnt/users/${USER}" ?
[15:06] <Virca7844> Not require to resize, install only!
[15:06] <eeee> Virca7844: 10gb will barely fit the ubuntu installation
[15:07] <Virca7844> eeee you are crazy :)
[15:08] <eeee> Virca7844: really? how big do you think ubuntu is?
[15:08] <Virca7844> 7 8 gb
[15:09] <zerowaitstate> does anyone know why disk usage reported by df would be at 100% but du would report 50% usage using ext4?
[15:09] <Virca7844> Can you help, eeee
[15:09] <eeee> Virca7844: ok, so you think 3gb is enough?
[15:09] <k1l> Virca7844: you can install it there. but 10GB is very very low. so you will encounter free space issue right away if you wan to run a regular desktop and store some stuff
[15:10] <k1l> zerowaitstate: please put into pastebin "df -h" and "df -i"
[15:11] <MacroMan> Bit of a long shot, but anyone know if scp can be configured to output just the percentage progress rather than a full bar?
[15:11] <MacroMan> This is so I can pipe it to dialog --guage and use a prettier interface
[15:12] <TJ-> Virca7844: If the disks are configured as fake-RAID arrays, then GRUB cannot install and therefore even if you install Ubuntu it will not be bootable. You'll need to address the boot-loader issue first
[15:13] <zerowaitstate> http://pastebin.com/BqXvCWNg
[15:13] <Virca7844> Can i just use nodmraid when install?
[15:13] <Virca7844> I worry if it crash windows
[15:14] <zerowaitstate> "sudo du -sh /" reports 13G used
[15:14] <k1l> why do you have that raid setup in a laptop anyway?
[15:14] <k1l> zerowaitstate: is that a vps?
[15:15] <zerowaitstate> yeah
[15:15] <Virca7844> It is not my notebook i can not play w it only install ubuntu
[15:15] <TJ-> Virca7844: If all space on the array members is allocated then you won't be able to easily install Linux for a dual-boot scenario.
[15:15] <zerowaitstate> it is a hypervisored vm
[15:16] <k1l> zerowaitstate: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1117947
[15:16] <Virca7844> I have free 10 gb it enough!
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Virca7844, you need at least 15-20G for a proper ubuntu installation
[15:18] <TJ-> BluesKaj: O.O ... I've generally don't allow it more than 10G, and that's being generous!
[15:19] <BluesKaj> TJ-, you're talking about / , correct?
[15:20] <TJ-> BluesKaj: The whole thing... generally I allocate 8GB for everything but add some for specific scenarios
[15:21] <BluesKaj> not much wiggle room,. TJ-
[15:21] <zerowaitstate> k1l: thanks
[15:23] <TJ-> BluesKaj: I always use LVM so if additional space is needed for anything its just "lvextend -L +2G ..."
[15:24] <BobBall> TJ-: I don't suppose you know where I can get debugging symbols for /sbin/restart (i.e. upstart package) from do you?
[15:25] <BluesKaj> TJ-, I've been thinking about using LVM , but I don't feel like reinstalling from scratch again
[15:31] <Akayllin> Hey all, could anyone help me out with a minimal install? Practicing building packages manually and just need the bare minimum packages for ubuntu to run. dont know what to deselect manually in aptitude
[15:32] <Akayllin> cant deselect everything because i still need stuff like wget, make, etc to grab and compile stuff
[15:32] <Psylo> so why don't you use arch or gentoo ?
[15:33] <Akayllin> because im only allowed to use ubuntu
[15:36] <catphish> how long is it likely to take for a fix for today's bash exploit to reach ubuntu?
[15:38] <PaowZ_> hi !! When I plug a barcode reader, I get two drivers loaded by the kernel:
[15:38] <PaowZ_> [21940.874406] hid-generic 0003:0536:0201.0018: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Honeywell Imaging & Mobility     IT4600] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0
[15:38] <PaowZ_> [21940.890132] hid-generic 0003:0536:0201.0019: hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Device [Honeywell Imaging & Mobility     IT4600] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input1
[15:38] <PaowZ_> I need to remove /dev/hidraw3.. how do I proceed ?
[15:40] <sjuxax> Hello. ETA on patch for CVE-2014-6271? We have a team of sysadmins standing by to patch and don't see anything on the security-announce list yet...
[15:40] <sjuxax> http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/650
[15:42] <catphish> sjuxax: i have the same question
[15:43] <XMerrow> ciao
[15:46] <TJ-> sjuxax: catphish It'll be listed as a USN once the security team address it; it depends to some extent on timezones
[15:47] <catphish> TJ-: ok, thanks
[15:47] <sjuxax> TJ-: Do you know about how long that'll be? The ease of exploitation and severity of potential impact here make it hard to wait.
[15:48] <sjuxax> I'm actually compiling bash from source and applying the patch by hand on our most desirable targets.
[15:48] <TJ-> sjuxax: I'd think if you've got a support contract it'll be quicker :)
[15:48] <catphish> sjuxax: if you have sysadmins, have them change all shells, its a sane workaround
[15:48] <catphish> that's what i did when the news hit, though i'd like a more fuzzy feeling of fixing it properly
[15:50] <derFiet> hello, I'd like to know whether SASL is necessary if I already have an SSL encrypted connection? Afaik SASL is there to secure and encrypt the authentification - information
[15:51] <derFiet> or do I miss out on central aspects of SASL?
[15:51] <Fuchs> derFiet: yes.
[15:52] <Fuchs> derFiet: SASL and SSL have nothing to do with each other
[15:52] <Fuchs> derFiet: SASL is a way to authenticate during connect, e.g. here on the freenode IRC Network. It offers a variety of mechanisms  (e.g. DH-Blowfish), but I'd consider none of them secure. You want SSL in addition to SASL.
[15:53] <Fuchs> Because SASL is the most sane authentication mechanism  (it will take place during connect and hence before autojoin, which you want), and SSL makes sure that the communication, including SASL which sends your password, are secure.
[15:53] <Fuchs> short: you want both.
[15:53] <derFiet> still reading ..
[15:53] <Fuchs> hence the short version. You want both.
[15:56] <derFiet> hmm, so SASL is a .. session manager that runs infront of my software and ensures that everybody is authenticated while SSL encrypts the whole connection?
[15:56] <BobBall> w/c
[15:56] <Fuchs> SASL is just an authentication method. It is a way in which your client (e.g. your IRC client here, or a script of it) communicates with the server (e.g. the freenode IRC server here) to make sure you authenticate
[15:56] <Gerod> Hi, everyone.
[15:56] <Fuchs> and SSL is SSL, yes, it encrypts the communication between you and the server  (same as in https)
[15:57] <Gerod> Can I ask a question?
[15:57] <Gerod> 1731 users here but not busy at all why is that?
[15:57] <derFiet> Fuchs: thank you I think I get it now
[15:58] <Fuchs> derFiet: You're welcome :)
[15:58] <derFiet> Gerod: just ask and if someone is able to answer, he will
[15:58] <Fuchs> derFiet: http://freenode.net/sasl/ also explains it a bit  (plus it links to set up how-tos for a couple of common clients)
[15:58] <TJ-> sjuxax: catphish Updates were published 20 minutes ago; Marc is waiting for the archives to catch up before posting the USN. See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash
[16:00] <androidbruce> anyone know if there is info in ubuntu releasing a patch for this recent bash vuln
[16:01] <androidbruce> 2014-6271
[16:01] <androidbruce> CVE 2014-6271
[16:01] <TJ-> androidbruce:  Updates were published 20 minutes ago; Marc is waiting for the archives to catch up before posting the USN. See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash
[16:02] <androidbruce> thanks TJ-
[16:03] <TJ-> CVE-2014-6271 => http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[16:03] <lapion> hello
[16:05] <derFiet> Fuchs: When thinking on the topic a bit more, it becomes more clear: there is not only username-password authentication, but authentication via ssl-certificate, digest, rsa-token and many other ways, so sasl provides some defined set of supported authentication methods. that is the central function for SASL, not the encryption
[16:06] <Fuchs> yes
[16:07] <Fuchs> (note that the other authentication methods, including cert-fp or server password) are, on this network, inferior. Hence the recommendation for SASL. But as this, as the other methods, sends your password in either plain or breakable methods, I recommend SSL on top (well, below)
[16:07] <Fuchs> =
[16:07] <Fuchs> err, )
[16:08] <derFiet> depends from which side you look into the network-connection-stack
[16:08] <derFiet> :)
[16:09] <androidbruce> TJ-, is this only patched in lucid?
[16:09] <catphish> bash upgrade available
[16:10] <Mathuin> On 14.04.1, what's the proper way to set a static IP address but let DHCP assign everything else (DNS, search domains, gateway, etc)?
[16:10] <catphish> on the desktop, networkmanager has an option to do this
[16:10] <catphish> not sure how to do it in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:13] <Mathuin> I ended up setting everythign by hand in /etc/network/interfaces, which is not the right solution.
[16:13] <Mathuin> I can't see NetworkManager, but I thought it's option was the *opposite* -- hardcode DNS etc but use DHCP's recommended IP address.
[16:14] <androidbruce> cve 6271
[16:14] <androidbruce> cve 2014-6271
[16:16] <TJ-> Mathuin: The IPv4 "Manual" method has the option "DHCP Client ID" which infers that other settings can be requested from the DHCP server
[16:16] <_Rocky_> Hi I need help with unicode fonts. Unicode supplementary plane fonts are not rendered in my machine with Ubuntu 14.04
[16:17] <_Rocky_> Does anyone successfully installed unicode SMP?
[16:18] <TJ-> Mathuin: Hmmm, seems that field is disabled though, so no help there!
[16:20] <Mathuin> TJ-: Ah well, I'm sure there's a way.
[16:20] <skinux> How do we get $PATH exported so it's saved between terminal sessions and reboots?
[16:21] <skinux> I've tried "export $PATH", but it doesn't work.
[16:21] <reisio> skinux: ~/.bashrc
[16:21] <mikeg3> Hi…I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 14.04  in a Parallels VM, but the power got cut in the middle of installing the initial set of Software Updates.  What is the best way to fix this?
[16:22] <Fuchs> mikeg3: sudo apt-get -f install, sudo dpkg-reconfigure  and in general following whatever error messages you might get, then just a regular sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:23] <Fuchs> (error messages as in: you might have to remove stale lockfiles and such)
[16:23] <TLoFP> how can I remove a user from the group of sudoers?
[16:23] <mikeg3> Fuchs: the new distro is aut already?
[16:23] <_Rocky_> TLoFP, Remove the user from sudo group
[16:23] <mikeg3> *out
[16:24] <TLoFP> _Rocky_, how do I do that form the command line, I have no X installed
[16:24] <Fuchs> TLoFP: sudo gpasswd -d usergoeshere sudo    (and admin, depending on the version)
[16:24] <Fuchs> mikeg3: I have no idea, I don't use ubuntu
[16:24] <TLoFP> Fuchs, thank you
[16:25] <Fuchs> TLoFP: you're welcome
[16:25] <BluesKaj> mikeg3, not for a few more weeks
[16:25] <_Rocky_> TLoFP, What Fuchs said. And u have re login for the effect
[16:25] <Fuchs> mikeg3: oh, if that was due to the dist-upgrade: that doesn't do what you think it does
[16:25] <TLoFP> ok
[16:25] <Fuchs> mikeg3: that just upgrades packages including thsoe that pull stuff, it's the same as a regular system update via whatever GUI you use would do
[16:26] <BluesKaj> mikeg3, sudo do-release-upgrade, to upgrade to the new OS
[16:27] <Fuchs> BluesKaj: not what he wants to do
[16:27] <skinux> Should Ubuntu know to launch .phar files with PHP or is there a way to set a default of launching/opening .phar files with PHP?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> oops, sudo do-release-upgrade -d , if you relly want to upgrade to 14.10, mikeg3
[16:27] <GerodHatesTV> Hi, everybody.
[16:28] <reisio> heyo
[16:28] <GerodHatesTV> I Hate Celebrities
[16:28] <Fuchs> BluesKaj: not what he wants to do either
[16:28] <reisio> good story
[16:28] <GerodHatesTV> I Hate TV.
[16:28] <GerodHatesTV> Three months haven't watched TV.
[16:28] <Fuchs> BluesKaj: he just wanted to install it, and got cut by power outage. I already gave him the commands he needs, don't worry.
[16:28] <Fuchs> GerodHatesTV: that's more for #ubuntu-offtopic, really
[16:29] <GerodHatesTV> I think we are surrounded by Evil ideas coming out from Evil ones.
[16:29] <Fuchs> skinux: technically you can tell your file manager  (or xdg-open) to run .php files with a php interpreter, but in most cases that is a stupid idea
[16:29] <GerodHatesTV> They're on T.V. They're on the radio. They sell things to us that we don't really need but that we apparently can't do without.
[16:29] <Fuchs> skinux: because in most cases .php is meant for web sites, so a php module of a httpd should interpret them, and then deliver http to a browser. So opening them is not what you want.
[16:30] <GerodHatesTV> They exist so that we may love them and cherish them. And that, more or less, is why I completely despise them.
[16:30] <skinux> Apparently Ubuntu already knows to send .phar files to php.
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Fuchs, yes, I got that, but was explaining how to get 14.10 since he asked about it
[16:30] <GerodHatesTV> Picture this: you are going to work, just like any other day, only you are surrounded by photographers.
[16:30] <Fuchs> GerodHatesTV: still, #ubuntu-offtopic please, this here is a support channel
[16:30] <GerodHatesTV> They follow you everywhere you go, taking pictures of you so loser teenagers have something to jerk off to.
[16:30] <bazhang> !ot | GerodHatesTV
[16:30] <skinux> I was having trouble making Composer globally available, but I managed to put a symlink in /usr/local/bin that works.
[16:32] <Fuchs> skinux: well, you can (assuming you use unity) use http://www.howtogeek.com/117709/how-to-change-your-default-applications-on-ubuntu-4-ways/  to associate file types, but as said, in case of .php binding them to a php interpreter is probably not what you want  (an editor probably more so)
[16:33] <skinux> No, no..., .phar (PHP Archive) files are automatically opened (executed) by PHP, which is what I wanted.
[16:34] <Fuchs> ah, that you can do via the above mentioned way
[16:34] <skinux> I have yet to see a .phar file which isn't meant to be used as a terminal command.
[16:34] <skinux> It turned out the association is already made.
[16:35] <m0e> hey
[16:35] <m0e> can I ask a question related to syscalls here?
[16:36] <Fuchs> m0e: try it, something like ##linux might work better, but worth a try
[16:36] <m0e> ok thanks
[16:36] <_Rocky_> Why is it that I get some blocks of unicode missing? Its not the font. I have confirmed. like block 26c4 to 26ff. and 100000 to 1fffff
[16:37] <Fuchs> _Rocky_: this isn't, by chance, konversation?
[16:37] <Fuchs> _Rocky_: if yes: they filter out various blocks due to a  (now resolved) bug in Qt
[16:37] <_Rocky_> No... All apps in ubuntu
[16:37] <Fuchs> oh, that's odd
[16:38] <_Rocky_> In fact, I copied the same font ttf to a mac and it works fine there
[16:41] <reisio> _Rocky_: wrong locale?
[16:42] <_Rocky_> reisio, en_US.utf8
[16:42] <_Rocky_> Seems to be right
[16:50] <trism> _Rocky_: hmm I just installed the font http://www.quivira-font.com/ and I instantly see all the snowmen and such, so not sure what you mean by missing
[16:51] <trism> _Rocky_: only chose that font because it was the first one I found with those symbols
[16:53] <_Rocky_> trism, Just installed quivira font. Those blocks are still missing.
[16:54] <_Rocky_> 26c4 to 26ff
[16:54] <_Rocky_> and the whole supplementary plane block
[16:55] <_Rocky_> trism, I can see snowman too. Can you try battery. U+1F50B
[16:55] <_Rocky_> ?
[16:56] <trism> _Rocky_: no but quivira doesn't have that symbol in the font
[16:57] <_Rocky_> trism, I see
[16:58] <trism> _Rocky_: just with a quick google search I found http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f50b/fontsupport.htm which lists a few fonts that support the glyphs
[16:58] <trism> _Rocky_: that's how I found the other one
[16:58] <_Rocky_> This could be a font issue. Though, I am wondering why the same ttf font would work with a mac
[16:59] <_Rocky_> trism, I am on that page right now. :)
[16:59] <trism> _Rocky_: well, it may be falling back, I am not using the quivira font in my terminal, but I see the symbols as soon as I installed it
[16:59] <trism> _Rocky_: so you may have another font on your mac with the missing glyphs
[16:59] <_Rocky_> trism, Do you see the fallback on a mac or linux?
[17:00] <trism> _Rocky_: linux, ubuntu 14.04, I just dropped the font in ~/.fonts/
[17:00] <_Rocky_> trism, Let me install a font that supports battery and check if this happens successfully
[17:04] <_Rocky_> trism, It works if I use the font. But it doesn't fallback :(
[17:05] <LuchaLibre> Hey guys
[17:06] <LuchaLibre> Can anyone help me set up my controller's mapping keys?
[17:06] <LuchaLibre> It runs in Ubuntu
[17:06] <LuchaLibre> It's just I have no clue how to get all the keys mapped.
[17:07] <Sindastra> hm..
[17:07] <Sindastra> what do you want to do?
[17:07] <LuchaLibre> Keymapping, I.E make one button = key pressed
[17:08] <Sindastra> if i remember right there's a software for that called Joy2key
[17:08] <LuchaLibre> But on the forums it said to use jtest-gtk, but I can't figure out to use the mapping function
[17:09] <trism> _Rocky_: oh, do you have fonts-droid installed?
[17:11] <_Rocky_> trism, no
[17:11] <Sindastra> LuchaLibre, sadly i can't help you with that.. i only know there's Joy2key and that's it :P
[17:11] <Sindastra> LuchaLibre, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/joy2key.1.html
[17:11] <motz> problem: wifi is not seen on ubuntu 12.04. Any hint?
[17:11] <Sindastra> maybe that helps
[17:12] <_Rocky_> trism, Wait. I do have it installed
[17:12] <trism> _Rocky_: ah, I had previously had weird font fallbacks with droid installed before removing the droid fallback links from /etc/fonts/conf.d/ (all my japanese text was invisible without a japanese font set)
[17:12] <trism> _Rocky_: I don't know if it affected other glyphs
[17:14] <maddawg2> hmmm question....  i have recently installed ubuntu server and i've set up my networking (i.e. the interfaces file) however when I go to restart the networking service it just says "stop/waiting"
[17:14] <maddawg2> yet my networking seems to work fine
[17:14] <maddawg2> well at least in the sense that i can get outside the network
[17:16] <_Rocky_> trism, Let me reboot. Be right back
[17:17] <dooglus> hi guys. is there a channel where I can get help with a kernel bug?
[17:17] <trism> _Rocky_: you may also want to remove the ~/.cache/fontconfig/ files
[17:17] <_Rocky_> trism, Got you
[17:19] <SpaghettiCat> dooglus:  kernel used with ubuntu?
[17:24] <LuchaLibre> Sindastra: It ain't working
[17:24] <LuchaLibre> Is anyone here familiar with how  to get game controllers working?
[17:25] <steisi> a
[17:25] <steisi> HOLA
[17:25] <Sindastra> LuchaLibre, well, i used a NES controller with ubuntu once.. the emulator let me map the keys..
[17:26] <LuchaLibre> I'm using VBA M
[17:30] <paul_> hi
[17:36] <androidbruce> where's the bash cve patch
[17:40] <k1l_> androidbruce: there it is: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[17:41] <lephisto> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages 403 ?!
[17:41] <lephisto> is it possible that the ubuntu update server are seriously screwed?
[17:41] <maddawg2> what is the difference between isc-dhcp-server and dhcp3-server?
[17:42] <maddawg2> cuz i'm looking for the directory: /etc/default/dhcp3-server
[17:42] <omosoj_> hey all, i spilled water on my freaking touchpad and now it doesn't work. how can i disable it and its buttons so it doesn't bother me?
[17:42] <maddawg2> but i cant find it despite having dhcp3-server installed
[17:42] <k1l_> lephisto: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/ wrong link
[17:43] <k1l_> omosoj_: did you take a look into bios settings?
[17:43] <maddawg2> omosoj_, that's silly...  you didnt know computer don't need water?
[17:44] <omosoj_> k1l_, i was hoping that i could disable it from system settings or something... not possible?
[17:44] <lephisto> k1l_: apt is trying to get files from there
[17:44] <omosoj_> maddawg2, literally probably only 2 drops got under a button on my thinkpad. i'm absolutely fuming right now. ughhhhhhh
[17:45] <omosoj_> i was just wiping something off
[17:45] <k1l_> omosoj_: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-the-touchpad
[17:45] <maddawg2> omosoj_, how long ago did this happen?
[17:45] <maddawg2> omosoj_, if it were recent and it's just acting funny i bet it will fix itself as it dries
[17:45] <omosoj_> maddawg2, recently. i turned it upside down, ran a hair dryer on it for 10 minutes.
[17:45] <maddawg2> try leaving your computer in rice overnight
[17:46] <maddawg2> if it's just a few drops it will dry right out
[17:46] <k1l_> lephisto: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and then put all into a pastebin please
[17:46] <omosoj_> k1l_, any idea how to follow a link without a keyboard from irssi?
[17:47] <omosoj_> maddawg2, that's a lot of rice! -- the way it screws up i feel like it wont improve. dunno. hopefully it gets better
[17:47] <omosoj_> but anyway, i should learn to get around with only a keyboard.
[17:47] <lephisto> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/41kGRaCA
[17:48] <lephisto> i also experienced 406 errors in the de servers
[17:48] <lephisto> it's really strange
[17:48] <androidbruce> k1l_, thanks
[17:48] <k1l_> androidbruce: that seems like a dns or ISP routing issue
[17:50] <Caroga> hi all. Got a question. Is it possible to extend a Logical Volume GROUP ?
[17:51] <androidbruce> isn't ubuntu's default shell now dash and not bash?
[17:51] <k1l_> androidbruce: yep, its dash
[17:52] <rww> androidbruce: non-interactive scripts with a #!/bin/sh line will use dash. Interactive users default to bash.
[17:52] <teward> k1l_: you mean `sh` for 'default shell' right?  that is dash, but interactive users have bash, right?
[17:52] <mguy> k1l_: any glaring differences/issues?
[17:52] <Caroga> hey guys, you know if you can increase the size of your logical volume group ?
[17:52] <rww> teward: correct
[17:52] <lephisto> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/41kGRaCA
[17:53] <k1l_> teward: yep, see rww extended answer
[17:53] <androidbruce> k1l_, rww thanks for the confirmation :)
[17:53] <k1l_> lephisto: that seems like a dns or ISP routing issue
[17:53] <omosoj_> k1l_, thanks for the link, it worked!
[17:53] <Bourne> 404
[17:53] <lephisto> k1l_: it's my own ASN
[17:53] <lephisto> it's fine
[17:53] <lephisto> i proactively get a 404 error
[17:55] <lephisto> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted
[17:55] <lephisto> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted
[17:55] <lephisto> thgis is fine right?
[17:56] <teward> k1l_: lag resulted in it getting to me late, thanks.  thanks rww.
[17:58] <k1l_> lephisto: yep, and its working here. since i updated the bash package just 10 minutes ago
[17:58] <lephisto> too strange
[17:59] <k1l_> lephisto: so i gues its a dns or ISP issue on your side
[17:59] <lephisto> i have 40 boxes here
[17:59] <lephisto> but one won't update
[17:59] <lephisto> i run my own dns and i'm my own isp :)
[17:59] <lephisto> lemme restart bind9 on all resolvers
[17:59] <k1l_> ok, than its only your fault :)
[17:59] <lephisto> meeeh
[17:59] <lephisto> :)
[18:00] <dooglus> SpaghettiCat: yes, I'm having trouble with the ubuntu kernel
[18:01] <Guest41146> um, ive got a problem. im try'n to install win xp on this old guys pc and he has no cd drive. i know xp is out of date but he already has the OS and he doesn't  go online so all is good. the problem is how am i supposed to install it if there are no programs (that i can find) that will do this. id would just install linux but then id prolly have to keep on going back to his house for every question that he has. is there a simple way
[18:01] <Guest41146>  of doing this? the only solution i can find is a long processes where i gotta set up an m-dos to do it :( please help me out guys/girls
[18:01] <dooglus> specifically: $ cat /proc/loadavg
[18:01] <SpaghettiCat> dooglus:  then you can post here or the forums
[18:01] <dooglus> 4038876067.49 3837446932.46 3895484035.38 5/1055 12342
[18:01] <lephisto> k1l_: it happens both in ip4 and ipv6
[18:01] <lephisto> veryt strange
[18:01] <dooglus> my load average is around 4 billion, and has been for 12 hours at least
[18:02] <k1l_> Guest41146: is this actually an ubuntu question? or does it fit better into #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:02] <dooglus> tose first 3 numbers should be low - like 0.5 or so usually
[18:02] <bezaban> does anyone know if there is a fix for CVE-2014-6271 (bash remote explouit) yet in ubuntu? Any bot I can use to search?
[18:03] <bezaban> hehe
[18:03] <k1l_> bezaban: there is. just update to get it
[18:03] <k1l_> bezaban:  there it is: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[18:03] <bezaban> k1l_: great, can I see status for older distribution versions anywhere?
[18:04] <k1l_> bezaban: well. all supported ubuntus get the update. which are 10.04(server only), 12.04 and 14.004
[18:04] <bezaban> k1l_: great. fantastic. thanks. :)
[18:04] <k1l_> *14.04
[18:06] <SpaghettiCat> dooglus:  that load average is crazy!
[18:08] <SpaghettiCat> dooglus:  so run top and see what's taking up the resources
[18:08] <gchristensen> when upstart emits "cloud-config" has cloud-config completed execution, or ..? I'm looking to have a service start after cloud-config has completed its thing.
[18:12] <leigh> am in the right place to ask for assistance?
[18:14] <usr13> leigh: With Ubuntu?
[18:14] <leigh> yes
[18:14] <usr13> yes
[18:14] <leigh> cool
[18:14] <o2q> What do you need?
[18:14] <klemvor> hi everybody
[18:15] <Bourne> klemvor: russian???
[18:15] <klemvor> no
[18:15] <leigh> i am new to the OS and trying to locate a chat program that supports skype-style chat and video
[18:15] <klemvor> italian
[18:15] <Bourne> klemvor: oh nice
[18:15] <usr13> !it | klemvor
[18:16] <o2q> You can use Google Hangouts. It's proprietary, but it's pretty useful.
[18:16] <DJones> !skype | leigh
[18:16] <leigh> thanks will give that a try
[18:16] <usr13> !ekiga | leigh
[18:17] <Bourne> rage rage..i'm hitting the quit button...see y'all later. gotta rest my brain a bit
[18:17] <klemvor> ubottu: non c'è problema, son venuto sul canale generale  apposta, visto che ho un problemaccio e volevo esplorlo a una comunity più ampia
[18:19] <klemvor> I have a bad problem with my video card
[18:19] <usr13> klemvor: Ok, but use english here.
[18:19] <usr13> klemvor: what is it?
[18:20] <klemvor> I had an asus eee pc with a gma3600
[18:20] <klemvor> so it used the cedarview propertary driver
[18:21] <klemvor> now that pc is dead (due to a failure on the motherboard) and I took its hard disk and put it in an old acer
[18:22] <klemvor> which has as video card an ati radeon x1400 mobile
[18:22] <klemvor> now i think such video card is fully supported
[18:22] <klemvor> but I still can't get no hardware acceleration
[18:23] <klemvor> if i try to play a video
[18:23] <klemvor> the cpu usare skips to 100%
[18:23] <klemvor> I think the system is not using the right drivers, even if thei are installed
[18:23] <klemvor> (I checked it)
[18:24] <klemvor> *they
[18:24] <klemvor> what can I do?
[18:25] <klemvor> btw the video card is correctly detected by the system (i checked it)
[18:25] <SpaghettiCat> klemvor:  please don't use enter as punctuation. The question on 1 line, please
[18:26] <klemvor> ok
[18:26] <LucidGuy> Running 12.04, is there an easy way to determine which NICs are supported?
[18:27] <usr13> klemvor: lspci -nnk |grep VGA -A3 |grep driver
[18:27] <usr13> klemvor: (What driver are you using now?
[18:28] <Nady> hi
[18:29] <usr13> klemvor: My advise is to just ditch the proprietary driver and use the existing one that is included in the kernel.
[18:29] <BluesKaj> klemvor, have you checked System Settings > Software & Updates > Additional Drivers?
[18:29] <Nady> I am trying to install Ubuntu by USB. but after clicking on install it shows the animation and progress only and nothing happens at all .. what to do
[18:29] <HoNgOuRu> how do I run a program as a normal user (from the root account) ?
[18:30] <EOBeav> Nady: It hangs up for a bit, you have to be patient. I just did that last night, actually
[18:30] <usr13> Nady: First, run checksum against the ISO and google it, (verify authenticity), second test the media device,
[18:30] <o2q> nady: if you used unetbootin, it'll do that.
[18:31] <o2q> unetbootin is no longer supported.
[18:31] <Nady> no it did not hang. it was showing progress ... actually I left it for whole night and in morning I saw the same progress bar in progress
[18:31] <usr13> Nady: Yea, a better method is to just dd it, (ubuntu ISOs are hybrid anyway so...)
[18:31] <EOBeav> HoNoOuRu: open up terminal, sudo and then the command that opens the app
[18:32] <EOBeav> Nady: What are you using to boot iso?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> o2q, odd what's the alternative to unetbootin, altho it worked for me not too long ago
[18:32] <usr13> Nady: Tell us about your hardware, (processor, RAM, HD etc.).  (What is it you are intalling on?)
[18:32] <EOBeav> I use unetbootin and rarely have problems
[18:33] <Nady> I burned an ISO in usb and made it bootable iso and it is working well when it comes to boot from USB... but actually not going further after progress animation
[18:33] <HoNgOuRu> EOBeav, "sudo -H -u normalUser firefox google.com" did the trick, thank you
[18:34] <usr13> Nady: You do not need to do anything to it, just dd it to the USB stick.
[18:35] <piopanjaitan> what's new /
[18:35] <Wolfblood> Hola people. Been a while
[18:35] <reisio> my name isn't root!
[18:35] <reisio> shalom
[18:35] <Nady> I am using AMD A8 APU processor with 4 GB RAM
[18:35] <usr13> Nady: dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX
[18:36] <Wolfblood> O.O someone using disk destroyer i see. Love that wee tool.
[18:36] <Nady> what do you mean by DD buddy
[18:36] <usr13> Nady: You might also test your RAM
[18:36] <usr13> !dd | Nady
[18:37] <Nady> Dude I think RAm is working fine because I am using windows 8 right now
[18:37] <usr13> Copy a file, converting and formatting according to the operands.
[18:37] <shams> ohhh new to Linux, gave up then back again because i love it, one question guys ..... i found on a forum how to access (create) vpn connection, it says "“xx.justfreevpn.com” as the VPN server name" dose it really mean xx or www. because neither of them are working failed co connect , any help please. Thank you
[18:37] <usr13> Nady: I did not ask you how your Win8 install works, I asked you to test your RAM
[18:38] <BluesKaj> shams, openvpn?
[18:38] <Nady> Is there any software available for that ?
[18:38] <mendax> what is the deal;
[18:38] <mendax> i havent been on here in while
[18:38] <usr13> Nady: It is on the install media.
[18:38] <shams> BluesKaj , yes to brows blocked site
[18:38] <mendax> and now it is a good time to be on while i have the i 5
[18:38] <Nady> ok
[18:38] <usr13> Nady: Here is the thing, there are several reasons that the install media will not boot up, we are just giving you a rundown.
[18:38] <mendax> i used to be banned from the bitcoin room becuase i was too speculative\
[18:39] <Nady> ok
[18:39] <mendax> who knows anything about computer
[18:39] <mendax> s
[18:39] <mendax> i dont know a thing about them
[18:39] <BluesKaj> shams, auto user and password with openvpn network manager?
[18:39] <usr13> Nady: I've tried to give you the most likely first, (corrupt ISO image, media problem, etc.)
[18:39] <k1l_> !ot | mendax
[18:40] <allgoodAtTaoti> hi all, is there information on mitigating the bash vulnerability on 12.04, how can we tell wheter the lts release will include an update and if we should install new bash packages?
[18:40] <allgoodAtTaoti> http://www.csoonline.com/article/2687265/application-security/remote-exploit-in-bash-cve-2014-6271.html
[18:40] <usr13> Nady: Without more information from *you* that is all we can do.
[18:40] <k1l_> allgoodAtTaoti: all already done. just run the updates
[18:40] <allgoodAtTaoti> ahh well that answered that, ty mister ubuntu bot =P
[18:41] <Wolfblood> Anyone mind if i borrow them for a wee bit? Got a question i couldn't find an answer to on the forums.
[18:41] <k1l_> allgoodAtTaoti:  there it is: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[18:41] <EOBeav> Did it ever get figured out how to dual boot on a Win 8.1 machine?
[18:41] <mendax> who else is here
[18:41] <usr13> EOBeav: Sure, lots are doing it.
[18:41] <mendax> cuz ill be on for while
[18:41] <k1l_> mendax: this is not a talking channel. so stop the noise please
[18:42] <shams> Blue, yes open vpn , network connections, VPN , add new connection .....and then i did what i found on forum , is it ok if i paste the link of the forum here ?
[18:42] <CodeGosu> when i had netbook with small screen 1024x600 on windows xp i could set higher resolution and it whould make it scroll over larger area when mouse touch borders, is there anything like this for linux?
[18:42] <usr13> mendax: There are only 1768 others, so...
[18:42] <BluesKaj> shams, yes
[18:43] <shams> http://askubuntu.com/questions/195952/how-to-access-blocked-sites
[18:43] <klemvor> usr13: how can I do that?
[18:43] <allgoodAtTaoti> k1l_: ty for the help, very much appreciated
[18:44] <usr13> klemvor: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:44] <mendax> har har har
[18:44] <mendax> who wants to have3 a video conference online
[18:44] <mendax> through skype
[18:44] <mendax> ill show you guiys how dope the house is
[18:45] <klemvor> usr13: there's no xorg.conf nor xorg.conf.d
[18:45] <mendax> ill bring you around using my surface
[18:46] <usr13> klemvor: What driver are you using now?
[18:46] <usr13> klemvor: lspci -nnk |grep VGA -A3 |grep driver
[18:46] <klemvor> usr13: radeon
[18:47] <usr13> klemvor: SO what is it doing?
[18:47] <Nady> Is there any software available for that ?
[18:48] <usr13> Nady: software for what?
[18:48] <usr13> Nady: Did you verify the ISO image?
[18:49] <shams> BluesKaj , did you see the link ?
[18:49] <usr13> Nady: Did you test the USB stick?  (There is an option to check the media.)
[18:49] <usr13> Nady: software for what?
[18:49] <klemvor> usr13: I think that the problem is the fact that the asus pc had the gma3600, whose driver was unable to do hardware acceleration, so it ha to be provided via cpu, and now even if the system is using the radeon driver still use the cpu instead of the video card to do graphical acceleration
[18:50] <BluesKaj> shams, well, free vpns are easy for governments to restrict access and they provide poor bandwidth due to high traffic..if possible use a paid vpn service like the one that freenode is supported by, https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ , it's the vpn I use and recommend it highly.
[18:50] <usr13> klemvor: Ubuntu 14.04?
[18:50] <klemvor> usr13: Ubuntu 12.04
[18:50] <usr13> klemvor: Fully updated?
[18:51] <usr13> klemvor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:52] <tnli> Has anyone tried to use intel 6250 wireless with the 3.14 kernel and firmware?
[18:52] <klemvor> usr13: I just updated the kernel drivers, but making a test with glxgears just give me the same result
[18:52] <usr13> klemvor: Did it work ok with the pervious kernel?
[18:53] <klemvor> usr13: no, I just tried
[18:53] <Nady> I am downloading another Image Via Torrent
[18:53] <shams> BluesKaj, ok thank you for the help, and i will think about your recommendation not to use free vpn and use paid one.
[18:53] <BluesKaj> shams, here' s a free vpn server that I used in the past and it works well for surfing etc
[18:53] <usr13> Nady: Did you test the previous one?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> shams, http://www.vpngate.net/en/
[18:53] <Codplayer> i need help cant delete a file it says that some files arent supported on this operation :S
[18:54] <Nady> I dont know how to test
[18:54] <usr13> Nady: md5sum ubuntu.iso  #And then google the output
[18:54] <ObrienDave> shams, also look into VPNbook
[18:54] <shams> BluesKaj, thank you again, and how do i setup that, because i can not open the page .
[18:54] <o2q> Codplayer: sudo rm -f /path/to/file
[18:54] <Codplayer> o2q: what does that maen?
[18:54] <Codplayer> mean*
[18:54] <usr13> Nady: Here is how it works: Ask questions.  Get answers.  (And be specific.)
[18:55] <shams> ObrienDave, thank you
[18:55] <o2q> Codplayer: SuperUserDo ReMove -f(orce) path/to/file
[18:56] <Codplayer> o2q: i know but how do i do it i have no clue
[18:56] <usr13> Nady: If the original image is ok, no need to download again.
[18:56] <Nady> ok
[18:56] <usr13> !checksum | Nady
[18:57] <BluesKaj> shams, does this one open http://www.softether.org/
[18:57] <Guest67898> I have installed WinUSB then removed it along with packages that was installed to satisfy it's dependencies, that included packages like grub and efi as far as I remmember. And I installed the old grub packages which was removed. No after a reboot I am stuck at grub page at boot. Any ideas how to fix?
[18:57] <o2q> Codplayer: ctrk + alt + t to open terminal
[18:57] <usr13> Nady: But like I said, all you have to do is google the output
[18:57] <Codplayer> o2q: ok
[18:57] <shams> BluesKaj, yes it dose :)
[18:58] <Codplayer> o2q: i did all but it says cant delete it becouse its a directory file
[18:58] <o2q> Codplayer: then in terminal type: sudo rm -f /home/<Codplayer>/whatever/file/you/want/to/delete
[18:58] <o2q> sudo rm -rf
[18:58] <unorth> o/
[18:59] <unorth> not sure if on proper channel for this question, but having trouble on deciding if I should go AMD or nvidia for gaming on ubuntu.
[18:59] <o2q> !ot | unorth
[18:59] <unorth> from my understanding, nvidia used to be better, but things appear to have changed and now AMD got pretty good drivers
[18:59] <unorth> allright, thanks
[18:59] <ObrienDave> most recommend nvidia
[19:00] <bubbasaures> better is subjective, nvidia is not better here.
[19:01] <Caroga> question
[19:01] <bubbasaures> here meaning personally
[19:01] <Caroga> im trying to remove a pv from my vg but it keep getting this: Physical volume "/dev/sdb" still in use
[19:01] <Caroga> There is no data on that pv and I cannot find how to remove it...
[19:01] <unorth> ty bubbasaures and ObrienDave
[19:02] <Caroga> anyone knows how to remove a physical volume from a volume group which is still in use ?
[19:03] <o2q> Caroga: paste mount
[19:03] <Caroga> there is no mount ?
[19:03] <usr13> Caroga: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:03] <Caroga> o2q, http://pastebin.com/HRJuLpDg
[19:03] <Caroga> usr13, 14.04 server
[19:04] <TJ-> Caroga: "pvdisplay -m /dev/<raw-device>"
[19:04] <DanTurtle> Is there a way to change the driver that Linux uses for sound?
[19:04] <shams> BluesKaj, lol, clicking on download link dose not open its block ..... http://www.softether-download.com/?product=softether  I tried to download from cnet but its DOS/windows executable file, guess its not gonna work for me.
[19:05] <usr13> Caroga: what command are you using?
[19:05] <Caroga> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/6g6qzpnQ
[19:05] <TJ-> Caroga: So the "root" LV is using it - you'll need to migrate those extents to a different PV first
[19:06] <TJ-> Caroga: See "man pvmove"
[19:06] <DanTurtle> I am trying to get the onboard fronk speaker to work because I have no good speakers to use for the sound out.
[19:06] <DanTurtle> front speaker
[19:06] <Caroga> Why migrate it when I want to delete it ?
[19:06] <Caroga> TJ-, is this a necessary step in the process of deleting it ?
[19:07] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, if the "root" LV cannot be de-activated.
[19:07] <Caroga> I dont know, it's a server doing nothing yet, so I think it can.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> shams, you're probly better off with openvpn on https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/ , it's easy to setup and has a tutorial for ubuntu which is a bit outdated , but it works on every ubuntu OS up to 14.10
[19:08] <TJ-> Caroga: Of course it is doing something - it's been booted!
[19:08] <Caroga> woops!
[19:08] <shams> ok
[19:08] <Caroga> TJ-, maybe you know this as well then
[19:08] <BluesKaj> shams, and it's very stable and reliable
[19:08] <Caroga> I got in this situation because I was trying to add some disc space to my server
[19:09] <Caroga> when doing the following I got an error: lvextend -L+4T /dev/cable-vg/root
[19:09] <Caroga> Insufficient free space: 1048576 extents needed, but only 523967 available
[19:09] <Caroga> Meaning that my Volume Group isnt big enough... Is there a way to extend this as well ?
[19:10] <DanTurtle> Is there another place I can go to get help with sound?
[19:10] <Caroga> DanTurtle, what's the problem ?
[19:11] <Caroga> TJ-, any thoughts?
[19:11] <DanTurtle> I have a front onboard speaker and it isn't working.  It works fine when I run another Linux Distro though.
[19:11] <TJ-> Caroga: An LV can only be extended to use the *free* extents of the VG
[19:12] <Caroga> DanTurtle, have you checked under your sound settings if you have any other sound devices when connecting your front speaker?
[19:12] <Caroga> TJ-, But is it possible to extend the size of the VG ?
[19:12] <Caroga> What limits the size of the VG actually ?
[19:12] <DanTurtle> Don't know what ubuntu is using but Knoppix uses Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW and that one works with the front speaker.
[19:12] <TJ-> Caroga: To add additional devices to a VG, first make those devices PVs ("pvcreate ..."), then "vgextend <VG> <PV>"
[19:13] <Caroga> That's what I've been doing.
[19:13] <Caroga> I've added the device to the volume group as well, but still I cannot extend the volume group..
[19:13] <TJ-> Caroga: The size of the VG depends on the sum of the PVs that are part of the VG
[19:14] <Caroga> DanTurtle, open your sound settings and view if there are any devices selectable
[19:15] <TJ-> Caroga: Can you show me "pastebinit < <(sudo pvs && sudo vgdisplay --verbose)" ?
[19:16] <Caroga> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/uUVFwkNh
[19:17] <DanTurtle> It shows "Digital Output (S/PDIF) Built-in Audio" Doesn't work.  "Headphones/No Amplifier Built-In Audio" and "Headphones/Amplifier Built-In Audio" works but the speakers I have arn't good and the sound is too low.
[19:18] <TJ-> Caroga: So 17282 extents are in use on sda5 ... those need migrating over to sdb
[19:19] <esing> Hi, how do I do a persistent host route in ubuntu? I am not sure if it is alright to use /etc/network/if-up.d/, because ubuntu uses by default network manager and I think ifup belongs to /etc/network/interfaces and thus it might conflict with networkmanagr?
[19:19] <Caroga> TJ-, pvmove /dev/sda5 /dev/sdb     ?
[19:20] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, or even more simply (to use the default allocation strategy) "pvmove /dev/sda5"
[19:20] <Caroga> DanTurtle, http://askubuntu.com/questions/201780/how-do-i-debug-issues-with-pulse-audio
[19:21] <Caroga> TJ-, it's moving it. Could you explain to me why this is needed, perhaps ?
[19:21] <esing> Or maybe I just use an own init script and write my route definitions there
[19:23] <DanTurtle> I believe the problem is the wrong driver for sound.  Is there a way to change what driver is used?
[19:24] <TJ-> Caroga: You created the LV when the VG used the PV in sda5 so the first available extents are allocated - from sda5
[19:24] <TJ-> Caroga: So if that PV needs to be retired the extents on it must be moved to another PV in the VG
[19:25] <mzaza> Is it possible to load Ubuntu if I am stuck on the bootloader screen having grub:> displayed?
[19:26] <mzaza> I have the same problem as this guy http://askubuntu.com/questions/330630/stuck-on-grub-screan-ubuntu-12-04, but I don't have an Live CD or USB to boot from.
[19:26] <TJ-> Caroga: When using "lvcreate" it is optional whether you specify which PV to allocate extents from - if you don't the default allocation policy is used, which is allocate first-free
[19:26] <mzaza> So my only way now would be to try to fix it from that screen, is that possible?
[19:26] <TJ-> mzaza: Usually it is, but it depends on why the system ended up like that
[19:27] <Caroga> TJ-, sounds logical
[19:28] <Caroga> TJ-, So basically the VG is limited by the available size on the PV on /dev/sda5 or am confusing things now ?
[19:28] <TJ-> mzaza: type "set", press Enter, tell me what "prefix=" and "root=" show, exactly, please
[19:28] <mzaza> TJ-: I had installed WinUSB and removed it and removed all packages it insatalled and re-installed packages it removed. One of those package where gurb-something and efi-something
[19:29] <mzaza> TJ-: prefix=(hd0,gpt2)/grub    root=hd0,gpt2
[19:29] <TJ-> Caroga: No, your VG has 2 PVs (~67GB on sda5 and 4TB on sdb). When "root" LV was created with a size of 2T it allocated from the free extents in order, so the extents in sda5 were allocated first
[19:29] <Caroga> Ah understood now more clearly
[19:30] <Steve_Jobs> where can I see the diff in code for the bash fix?
[19:30] <Steve_Jobs> any git repo?
[19:30] <TJ-> mzaza: Good. Let's see if you can list the grub directory: "ls (hd0,gpt2)/"
[19:31] <TJ-> Caroga: I think if you'd created the VG with the PVs in a different order - "sdb sda5" then extents from sdb would have been allocated first
[19:31] <mzaza> TJ-: Yes that wroked, I think that's the /boot partition
[19:31] <trism> Steve_Jobs: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/185679620/bash_4.3-7ubuntu1_4.3-7ubuntu1.1.diff.gz
[19:31] <Caroga> TJ-, Thing is, I first installed the server and added 2x4TB Raid 1 to it.
[19:31] <TJ-> Steve_Jobs: See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash
[19:32] <Caroga> So basically, my 2x73GB Raid 1 where detected first and I've et the installer handle the LVM process at all.
[19:32] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, that would make sense. So sda is hardware RAID mirror?
[19:33] <Caroga> Both are.
[19:33] <Caroga> both sda and sdb
[19:33] <riddler2> I'm on 13.10, what are my options regarding the bash RCE, are the updated packges out?
[19:33] <TJ-> Caroga: OK, nice to see hardware RAID being used :)
[19:33] <Guest44093> Hey - I'm trying to install 14.4 alongside Vista. I'm running the live system and the strange thing is, I can access the windows partitions, but in Gparted as well as in the install process the two partitions can't be read and windows isn't recognised. So I can't install it as dual boot...
[19:33] <Caroga> TJ-, was there a problem with using that in the past ?
[19:34] <Caroga> Since this is my first install on a server machine with hardware raid and mirroring.
[19:34] <daftykins> riddler2: your options are to upgrade to a supported release
[19:35] <riddler2> daftykins: okay understood, so it's unlikely that the fix would be ported to older versions quickly
[19:35] <TJ-> Caroga: No, but so many folks make do with fakeRAID I expect to see device-mapper node names as PVs when RAID is in use... your having raw sda sdb is usually an indication someone didn't build the VG on their RAID devices :)
[19:35] <usr13> Guest44093: I always just use gparted's liveCD and shrink a partition or 2 until I get enough free space, and then slap in distro of choice and install (using free-space).
[19:35] <LuchaLibre> Hey guys
[19:35] <Fishscene> Hi
[19:35] <daftykins> riddler2: i don't think you'll get any new packages at all, you realise the risk of running an EOL release right?
[19:35] <LuchaLibre> I can't seem to get input on my Microphone, can someone help me out?
[19:35] <LuchaLibre> I have Pulse Audio and Alsamixer installed.
[19:36] <mzaza> TJ-: I was able to see the contents of the /boot partition using the command u sent
[19:36] <riddler2> daftykins: yup, okay I guess that settles that -- thanks
[19:36] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, How old is the vista install, could the partition table be damaged?
[19:36] <LuchaLibre> It used to work before but now it isn't.
[19:36] <TJ-> mzaza: Great. Did you see at least one "vmlinuz-<version>" and a matching "initrd.img-<version>" ?
[19:37] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, I can boot into Vista and have since 2008 (original installation)
[19:37] <mzaza> TJ-: Yes, 3.13.0-32 is there
[19:37] <mzaza> and 35
[19:38] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, run sudo fdisk -l in the live ubuntu and pastebin all the info including the command..
[19:38] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, so I guess, the partition table is ok. Also, as said, I can access both partitions from the live system just find
[19:38] <TJ-> mzaza: Getting better ... :)  ... Now, all we need to know is which is the operating system root file-system, which could be in a raw partition or could be LVM - do you happen to know that, without us exploring for it?
[19:39] <btorch_> hello, anyone know if there is some option on dch to keep the previous changelog comments when just trying to increment the version number for a build ?
[19:39] <mzaza> TJ-: I think raw because I custom created the partition layout I used it for many install fedora, ubuntu, etc...
[19:39] <LuchaLibre> I need help, my Mic is not generating input.
[19:39] <TJ-> mzaza: Tip: using just "ls" will list all the file-systems containers (partitions, LVM VGs, etc.,) that grub can see
[19:39] <LuchaLibre> It used to work
[19:39] <LuchaLibre> But now
[19:39] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, http://pastebin.com/cpFm0K7M
[19:40] <LuchaLibre> It isn't.
[19:41] <mzaza> TJ-: (hd0) (hd0,gpt5) (hd0,gpt4) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0, gpt1)
[19:41] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, so you'll know the directories to expect to see in a root file-system. You can do "ls (hdX, gptY)/" to list the contents of each available container, replacing X and Y with appropriate numbers
[19:41] <mzaza> TJ-: OK, I did
[19:41] <TJ-> mzaza: Your task is to use that to identify the correct operating system root file-system. Another tip: "cat (hdX,gptY)/etc/issue" might help you
[19:42] <TJ-> mzaza: Great... which container is it in?
[19:42] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, Shows 3 partitions, not sure why they would not show in gparted or the installer beyond a broken partition table.
[19:42] <mzaza> TJ-: the root is gpt4
[19:42] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, Other opinions are needed in other words.
[19:43] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, could it be their state of being mounted or not?
[19:44] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, lets get you booted then: "linux vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic ro root=/dev/sda4 debug vt.handoff=7"
[19:44] <waykool99> didn't notice Lubuntu Software Center 'til after i downloaded ubuntu software center, which i used Synaptic package manager. does it make any difference?
[19:44] <usr13> Guest44093: Are you wanting to use the space that is now occupied by sda3?
[19:44] <elliottucker> Urgency mediam?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.3-7ubuntu1.1
[19:44] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, should not matter, but all should be unmounted for an install. At the least I would resize the windows in windows leaving a unallocated space, however the MS needs to be seen by the installer.
[19:44] <TJ-> mzaza: "initrd initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic"
[19:44] <TJ-> mzaza: "boot"
[19:45] <Guest44093> usr13, part of it - there is still plenty of it free
[19:45] <DanTurtle> Anyone know how to get sound working?  I believe the problem is wrong drivers.
[19:45] <waykool99> Wish List: Lubuntu  needs screenshot program installed by default.
[19:46] <usr13> Guest44093: So shrink it as needed, create an extended partition and logical one within.
[19:46] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, which partition must be seen? sda1 or sda2 with vista?
[19:46] <daftykins> waykool99: this is not the place to make such suggestions
[19:46] <Guest44093> usr13, I don't think it is a size issue here
[19:46] <usr13> Guest44093: So shrink it as needed, create an extended partition and logical *ones* within.
[19:47] <usr13> Guest44093: What is it?
[19:47] <Guest44093> ubuntu doesn't even see any windows
[19:47] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, sda2 and sda3 should be C and D in general in windows, we are ff in the weeds now. ;)
[19:47] <bubbasaures> off*
[19:47] <mzaza> TJ-: I am sorry power went off, could you repeat :)
[19:47] <mzaza> TJ-: linux vmlinux-version then what :D?
[19:47] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, thanks anyway
[19:48] <TJ-> mzaza: "linux vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic ro root=/dev/sda4 debug vt.handoff=7"
[19:48] <TJ-> mzaza: "initrd initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic"
[19:48] <TJ-> mzaza: "boot"
[19:48] <mzaza> ro root is to root?
[19:49] <usr13> Guest44093: What do you mean?  (Why is it you think that Ubuntu does not see any "windows"?)
[19:49] <Guest44093> Hey - I'm trying to install 14.4 alongside Vista. I'm running the live system and the strange thing is, I can access the windows partitions, but in Gparted as well as in the install process the two partitions can't be read and windows isn't recognised. So I can't install it as dual boot...
[19:49] <usr13> Guest44093: (Not sure I understand what you are saying.  Not sure that we understand what your problem is.)
[19:50] <TJ-> mzaza: what?
[19:50] <DanTurtle> Does anyone know of a way to tell Linux to use another driver for sound?
[19:50] <TJ-> mzaza: type the commands exactly as I give them to you - everything inside the double-quotes
[19:50] <Guest44093> usr13, when trying to install ubuntu, there is only one partition shown and can't be read. Even though I can access two partitions in the live mode
[19:51] <BluesKaj> Guest44093, encrypted?
[19:51] <caroga_> TJ-, still there?
[19:52] <DanTurtle> Is there another room I can go to for assistance?
[19:52] <TJ-> caroga_: Yeah
[19:52] <caroga_> TJ-, seemed my bouncer is having connection issues
[19:52] <usr13> Guest44093: So you have windows installed on sda1 (C:\). Right?  And you also have some data on the second partition (sda2), right? And what you want to do is resize the second partition (sda2) and leave some free (unallocated) space for the Linux install.  Right?
[19:52] <Guest44093> BluesKaj, no, it is the original installation
[19:52] <caroga_> TJ-, it appears my production server just went offline, where my bouncer is located.... great!
[19:53] <caroga_> anyways, TJ-, pvmove is done, should i lvextent it now ?
[19:53] <usr13> Guest44093: http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[19:53] <mzaza> TJ-: I get invalid file name
[19:53] <Guest44093> usr13, no - as I said already - neither gparted nor the installation can see the two partitions - it is shown as unrecognized.
[19:53] <rekoahola> Hello.
[19:53] <rekoahola> I'm currently trying to install ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 5560G
[19:53] <rekoahola> I can boot to the menu, with selections "Try Ubuntu without installing", Install Ubuntu etc.
[19:53] <rekoahola> Which ever option I choose and Ubuntu starts loading, it just gets stuck on the loading screen (with Ubuntu logos and loading dots)
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Guest44093: MBR 4 Partition limitation ?
[19:53] <rekoahola> Thanks in advance
[19:54] <Guest44093> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/cpFm0K7M I don't think so
[19:54] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, Have you ever run chkdsk comands on sda2 or sda3 C and D?
[19:54] <TJ-> caroga_: If the pvmove is done *and* no other LV is using extents on sda5, you can simply remove sda5 from the VG
[19:54] <ObrienDave> 4 primary partitions, 1 can be an extended partition with many under that
[19:54] <DanTurtle> I guess I will try back later.
[19:54] <Guest44093> bubbasaures, going to do that now - you mean in linux right?
[19:54] <bubbasaures> ObrienDave, The fdisk shows 3
[19:55] <mzaza> TJ-: however I'm sure of the file name when i click tab it lists the file and I copy as it is
[19:55] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, double-check the file-names for the vmlinuz.... and initrd.img... files are correct, with "ls (hd0,gpt2)/"
[19:55] <usr13> Guest44093: In the past, (when I used to do dual boot installs), I would first run defrag and then chkdisk, and then fire up gparted LiveCD.
[19:55] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, No that is a windows command chkdsk /f ask in ##windows on getting that done, can be run from a install or recovery booted to a terminal.
[19:56] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, install or recovery booted disc or started for a reboot on the install.
[19:56] <mzaza> TJ-: yes, sure
[19:57] <mzaza> TJ-: should i like move to directory or something before that?
[19:57] <mzaza> TJ-: I tried adding (hd0,gpt2)/vmlinuz seems to work
[19:57] <TJ-> mzaza: No; the "root=" value is used to locate those files
[19:57] <Guest44093> usr13, bubbasaures alright, going to try - thanks for support
[19:58] <TJ-> mzaza: did the "root" value change?
[19:58] <TomPayne> Everything was working fine. But now that I restarted Ubuntu, the display is fixed at 1024x768 instead of 1366x768 and wifi is not working. What went wrong?
[19:58] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, An easier method run on all showing discs in computer in vista. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67612-check-disk-chkdsk.html
[19:58] <bubbasaures> Guest44093, Run individually for a reboot on all showing discs in widows.
[19:58] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, that will work with absolute paths.... but if the files weren't found with root set, that might be why the boot failed. So you may need to check on that once the system boots, before rebooting
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Guest44093: usr13 :: maybe partition error ? as " 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors " and outside of disk -> /dev/sda3       247119872   488404991   120642560    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT/dev/sda3       247119872   488404991   120642560    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT ?? ( 488404991 ).
[19:59] <Caroga> TJ-, We have now transferred the extents from /dev/sda5 to /dev/sdb, can I now add /dev/sdb to my VG and extend the VG with it ?
[20:00] <TomPayne> I need to figure this out before going to sleep.
[20:00] <TJ-> Caroga: sdb is already part of the VG, we saw that earlier with http://pastebin.com/uUVFwkNh
[20:00] <Caroga> there is 4TB of disc space I would like to add, is this now done ?
[20:01] <TJ-> Caroga: "VG Size               4,06 TiB"
[20:01] <mzaza> TJ-: OK, I'm waiting for system to boot I tried kernel 35 didn't work something wwas wrong with fstab now i tried 32
[20:01] <Guest44093> Bashing-om, if that is the case, I hope chkdsk will fix it :)
[20:02] <mzaza> TJ-: busybot somthingand i'm stuck at initramfs
[20:02] <TJ-> mzaza: You could add "rw init=/bin/bash"  to the "linux ..." line to boot to a bash shell where you can work on fixing it
[20:02] <TomPayne> Can somebody help me out? The drivers didn't load after I restarted Ubuntu.
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Guest58569: IF what i "think" is so, then yes, I have known of Windows' chkdsk to correct that issue.
[20:03] <Caroga> TJ-, so i should now extend the FS, right ? resize2fs /dev/cable-vg/lv_root
[20:03] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, so you'll need to sort out the root file-system by the sound of it; something has been messed up big-time
[20:03] <TomPayne> Anyone?
[20:03] <TJ-> Caroga: First you'll need to extend the LV, then you can resize the file-system inside it
[20:03] <Caroga> lvextend -L+100%FREE /dev/cable-vg/root
[20:03] <Lyr> Hi guys
[20:03] <TomPayne> ...
[20:03] <Caroga> that TJ- ?
[20:04] <TomPayne> :(
[20:04] <TJ-> Caroga: Although I'm struggling to figure out why you want a 4TB root file-system!
[20:04] <TomPayne> :(
[20:04] <bubbasaures> TomPayne, Do you want a refund?
[20:04] <TomPayne> For what?
[20:04] <Lyr> Can't seem to connect to my ubuntu 14.04 server using windows client, is there a specific security setting ?
[20:04] <TomPayne> I just want to know how to fix my problem.
[20:04] <bubbasaures> TomPayne, Have some patience this is free help is all. ;)
[20:04] <TomPayne> After restarting, the drivers didn't load.
[20:05] <Caroga> I'm adding my 4TB disks to the system, I thought that was the way to do so ?
[20:05] <TomPayne> Can't have patience. No time for that.
[20:05] <zumba_addict> hi folks, how can I check if there are excessive disk access? our cpu is at 99% for 10 mins now
[20:05] <zumba_addict> process is java
[20:05] <Caroga> TJ-, if not, then where should I add it ?
[20:05] <daftykins> zumba_addict: try iotop
[20:05] <zumba_addict> cool
[20:05] <bubbasaures> TomPayne, Than stop harassing the channel and find your help somewhere else, patience is a channelrule here.
[20:05] <Caroga> TJ-, mount it under /mnt/ ?
[20:05] <zumba_addict> not installed
[20:06] <TomPayne> Bye, guys. So very helpful! :(
[20:06] <zumba_addict> other than iotop, what else?
[20:06] <daftykins> zumba_addict: just install it...
[20:06] <zumba_addict> k
[20:06] <ObrienDave> TomPayne, which drivers?
[20:06] <TomPayne> Display and wifi.
[20:06] <TJ-> Caroga: My point is, allocating all the space in the VG to the root file-system seems excessive... typically I never allocate more than 6GB to a server root-file system. I allocate another 6GB for a /var/ file-system if there's going to be some heavy logging or caching going on
[20:06] <TomPayne> The display is fixed at 1024 and wifi isn't working.
[20:06] <ObrienDave> what wifi chipset?
[20:07] <TomPayne> I don't know. That's not the point. The point is, after restarting, most of the drivers aren't loaded.
[20:07] <TJ-> Caroga: I always reserve free extents in a VG for taking snapshots, to allow for on-line back-ups
[20:07] <Caroga> TJ-, This server should run my OwnCloud and act as a media server (DLNA), that's why the big sizes and mirroring. If it's a best practice to add the disks somewhere else then I would gladly follow that practice.
[20:07] <ObrienDave> did you try the display settings?
[20:08] <TomPayne> Yes, no luck. The slider ain't movin'.
[20:08] <mzaza> TJ-: Wouldn't it be nice if you were my room mate or something and i just give u the laptop go to bathroom come pick it up fixed
[20:08] <mzaza> TJ-: The rw init=/bin/bash got me some wired stuff with call trace: end trace
[20:09] <ObrienDave> TomPayne, do you have proprietary display drivers?
[20:09] <TomPayne> No, default ones.
[20:10] <TJ-> Caroga: The beauty of LVM is that you can create as many Logical Volumes as you need, and its best to do that so each LV has a specific purpose. In your case maybe LVs for "media" and "cloud", then have those file-systems mounted at the appropriate mount-points in the file-system, That way you maintain flexibility, and can more easily do complete OS upgrades in the future simply by installing the new OS into additional LV
[20:10] <TomPayne> I installed Ubuntu yesterday. Didn't do much after that.
[20:10] <TJ-> mzaza: OK, sounds like the root file-system you thought was it, isn't, or the file-system is corrupted
[20:11] <ObrienDave> TomPayne, what model computer?
[20:11] <DanTurtle> I have tried everything and I get no sound,
[20:11] <TomPayne> I deleted the lock files as I was unable to carry out the 'apt-get' commands. Could that be the problem?
[20:11] <mzaza> TJ-: When I wrote the issue command I got Ubuntu 14.04
[20:11] <TomPayne> The laptop is a Toshiba Satellite L655-10U
[20:11] <ObrienDave> possible
[20:11] <DanTurtle> I tried Alsa Mixer, Pulse Audio Mixer, etc and I still get no sound in the speaker.
[20:12] <DanTurtle> If I boot to a LiveCD of Knoppix I get sound from the speaker.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> DanTurtle, which audio chip?
[20:12] <TomPayne> Anyways, thanks for trying. I'll just reinstall tomorrow. No time for that now. I'm way past my sleep time.
[20:12] <mzaza> TJ-: I am at (initframs)
[20:13] <Caroga> TJ-, This is what you are describing ? http://static.howtoforge.com/images/lvm/lvm_scheme_full.png
[20:13] <DanTurtle> Intel 82801 ICH6 AC'97
[20:13] <TJ-> mzaza: Hmmm ... when you're at the Busybox shell, that is 'inside' the initrd.img. It's job amongst other things is to find and mount the root file-system, then hand over to the "/sbin/init" process which is the start of user-space action (which gets process ID #1). Dropping to the shell at this point means something has gone wrong with that
[20:13] <mzaza> TJ-: ls works and I see /dev /root /bin /init /etc /lib64
[20:13] <mzaza> TJ-: Ah.
[20:14] <Janhouse> The bash vulnerabilty doesn't seem to be fixed in Ubuntu Server. How come?
[20:14] <DanTurtle> I have 2 ways to play sound: Internal Speaker on the front of the computer and external speakers and I don't have external speakers.
[20:14] <Ben64> Janhouse: you're going to have to be more specific
[20:14] <Janhouse> https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223
[20:14] <Janhouse> I don't see any updates for bash
[20:15] <k1l_> Janhouse: this is fixed since hours
[20:15] <k1l_> !usn
[20:15] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, like that. Another example from my system: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8420559/
[20:15] <Janhouse> Shitty mirrors? But I have the global security mirrors added.
[20:16] <mzaza> TJ-: so live cd :D right?
[20:16] <Janhouse> security.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <k1l_> Janhouse: which ubuntu exactly?
[20:16] <TJ-> mzaza: Not necessarily, we just need to dig deeper
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Janhouse: I had a bash update this AM : The following packages will be upgraded: bash
[20:16] <mzaza> TJ-: Tell me where to dig and I'll dig for you :D
[20:16] <Janhouse> Waaait, 13.10 doesn't receive them?
[20:17] <Ben64> 13.10 is EOL
[20:17] <TJ-> Janhouse: CVE-2014-6271 => http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[20:17] <BluesKaj> DanTurtle, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , then reboot ,...if the driver loads properly there will be no output from the terminal
[20:17] <k1l_> Janhouse: omg. 13.10 doesnt recieve any updates anymore. its dead. see "eol
[20:17] <k1l_> !eol
[20:17] <BluesKaj> DanTurtle, then you probly have to reboot
[20:17] <DanTurtle> Okay.
[20:17] <TJ-> mzaza: Let me start a VM here that drops into the busybox shell so I can tell you accurately
[20:18] <Janhouse> Thx...
[20:18] <shams> hello guys , how can i disable Alt+LMB to grab window short cut, because i need it for Firestorm viewer
[20:18] <Caroga> TJ-, basically you can install any linux os on your LV and the rest of your LV's are accesable ? awesome
[20:19] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, and I only allocate as much as each needs... any file-system needing more later can be extended on-line in 2 quick operations
[20:20] <TJ-> Caroga: that pastebin also shows how I separate out the directories that are OS-independent and also those that tend to eat up space in the root-fs, into their own LVs
[20:21] <ryao> ddebs.ubuntu.com is obscenely slow. Is there a simple way of fetching the things that I need and place them somewhere into a VM via scp to avoid the need to fetch?
[20:23] <jaksi> hi
[20:23] <jaksi> what's the easiest way to get a low-latency kernel on ubuntu 14.04?
[20:24] <TJ-> ryan-c: Use apt-cache-ng or similar
[20:24] <Caroga> TJ-, Okey, would you mind helping me through this process ? As I currently see the need for such an setup, but I am to much confuss to find out where I currently stand in this process and what to do next... *Feel ashamed*
[20:24] <tapout> what's a great client for FXP on ubuntu?  I am surprised filezilla doesn't do it
[20:24] <mzaza> TJ-: dont forget me :)
[20:25] <TJ-> Caroga: I don't have the time right now; once I've helped mzaza I have to leave
[20:25] <Caroga> sad panda
[20:25] <Caroga> but no worries, I'm very thankful that you've helped me so far!
[20:26] <shams> hello guys, i found the short cut to move window is Alt+F7  which i cleared but still i see there is Alt+Left mouse drag to move window is also the short cut for the same, i disabled the Alt+F7 but dont know how to find and disable Alt+Left mouse drag. any Idea ? thanks
[20:27] <netlar> How do I add back the Nautilus file manager to the launchbar and the dash.  It does not show up anywhere, think I deleted the menu item
[20:27] <DanTurtle> Didn't do anything
[20:27] <DanTurtle> Still no sound
[20:27] <shay_shay_> http://paste.kde.org/pgbgogrdu/jyy7rz/raw I'm wondering if i need to backport this dkms?
[20:28] <shay_shay_> it doesnt seem to build on 3.16.3
[20:28] <netlar> What is the command for nautilus
[20:28] <shay_shay_> backport from utopic?
[20:28] <DanTurtle> nautilus
[20:28] <trism> netlar: do you see any files at: /usr/share/applications/nautilus-*; you might just need to: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus; if you deleted those
[20:29] <jaksi> anyone? isn't there a packaged kernel for ubuntu with CONFIG_PREEMPT being set?
[20:29] <squinty> netlar: search for Files
[20:29] <reisio> jaksi: you can use any distro's kernel with any other distro
[20:29] <netlar> It is there, I just deleted the menu item is all
[20:30] <TJ-> mzaza: Grrr, having some 'issues' here with the VM not booting correctly... bear with me!
[20:30] <squinty> netlar:  start Files (nautilus) and it should appear on the launch bar. right click to lock it on
[20:30] <jaksi> reisio: I know, but it would be much better to have a preemptive kernel that's being updated as part of the system
[20:30] <jaksi> like the default kernel
[20:31] <netlar> squinty: I got it back, but before it was nowhere to even start
[20:32] <shay_shay_> does anyone know what the difference between broadcom-sta-dkms and bcmwl-kernel-source is? is one the gpl'd one and the other is non-free?
[20:33] <TJ-> mzaza: First thing you need to do is identify what partitions are known by the kernel with "cat /proc/partitions" - hopefully the root file-system partition identified earlier shows up
[20:33] <mzaza> TJ-: yes it does
[20:33] <mzaza> sda4
[20:34] <mzaza> not sda3
[20:34] <mzaza> TJ-: should i reboot and try the command u sent with ro root=/dev/sda4?
[20:34] <Melar> shay_shay difference is what you grep
[20:35] <nully> I'm really confused, is there a dictonary package for `myspell' that is required for thunderbird/firefox/libreoffice that is not the myspell-en-us package?
[20:36] <nully> firefox/thunderbird/libreoffice all show no dictonaries installed. But i have myspell-en-us so, maybe a symlink is missing? Or i need a different package?
[20:36] <DanTurtle> Is there a way to find out if I am using Pulse Audio or ALSA for my sound?
[20:36] <Melar> shay_shay use grep to find out what driver you need
[20:36] <TJ-> mzaza: Yes, if that works, it'd be a quick solution .... that'd be "linux vmlinuz-3.13.0.32-generic  ro root=/dev/sda4 debug"
[20:36] <thewisenerd> Hi, I can't seem to be able to get the kernel installed in "Ubuntu Core" installation. It fails with both generic and generic-trusty selections.
[20:36] <thewisenerd> Could someone point me in the right direction?
[20:36] <Melar> shay_shay lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[20:37] <thewisenerd> Or could I skip the kernel installation, chroot later, and then install the kernel?
[20:37] <TJ-> thewisenerd: what is "Ubuntu core"
[20:37] <Melar> !ubuntu-core
[20:37] <k1l_> thewisenerd: is this a regular install?
[20:38] <Melar> ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-core
[20:38] <thewisenerd> TJ-, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core ?
[20:38] <Melar> I know.
[20:38] <mzaza> TJ-: WOW! worked :D how to fix that mess then :D
[20:38] <mzaza> Never reboot would be the easiest solution :D
[20:38] <k1l_> thewisenerd: is this a ARM install or what? please provide more info
[20:39] <usr13> TJ-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Core
[20:39] <thewisenerd> x86 installation, (on a pentium 4; should it matter)
[20:39] <Wolfblood> Does anyone know if it's possible to put ubuntu onto a windows phone?
[20:39] <usr13> We need a factoid
[20:39] <DanTurtle> Does anyone know how to get internal speakers to work?
[20:39] <k1l_> thewisenerd: does that p4 have PAE?
[20:39] <TJ-> thewisenerd: Right, but which architecture and kernel flavour/versions are you attempting to install ?
[20:40] <Wolfblood> I got a windows phone off a friend because my useful phone died on me. Windoze is killing me ]
[20:40] <Bashing-om> thewisenerd: Kernels are a dependency of  linux-image-generic, is the package installed ? -> dpkg -l linux-image-generic < - .
[20:40] <k1l_> Wolfblood: that depends heavily on that phone
[20:40] <TJ-> mzaza: Well, if it booted correctly, and assuming the PC only has sda, then first thing is to ensure the boot-loader is installed correctly, with "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" then "sudo update-grub", then reboot and test it
[20:40] <thewisenerd> k1l_, i think so, yes.
[20:41] <k1l_> Wolfblood: best is to see xda-developers or other phone customizing communities
[20:41] <thewisenerd> TJ-, x86, linux-generic
[20:41] <k1l_> thewisenerd: are you sure? because that could be an issue
[20:41] <Wolfblood> HTC windows phone 8S on windows phone 8.0
[20:42] <thewisenerd> k1l_, i'm not so sure. quite some phones have ubuntu touch on xda, but none of them are windows. the kernel sources are an issue I guess. I think it could be done with a nokia n9 (?) or htc hd2 (which has working kernel sources thanks to the community)
[20:42] <Wolfblood> xda-developers has been useful a lot of times for my android but i've found nothing on this. I always prefer forums to asking for help
[20:42] <Wolfblood> this is my last resort on info
[20:42] <thewisenerd> k1l_, yes, i'm sure. pae exists.
[20:42] <TJ-> thewisenerd:  OK, so at what stage are you at... you've written the core rootfs to a partition or LV from a host OS ... so to install additional packages you'll need a chroot to ensure they're configured correctly
[20:43] <k1l_> thewisenerd: Wolfblood the biggest part is to get the drivers for the parts build in _and_ if the bootloader allows booting other kernels
[20:43] <usr13> TJ-: thewisenerd And if you have a slackware install CD or DVD, it will do it for you.
[20:43] <thewisenerd> k1l_, windows phones have bootloaders? I thought they were locked down in a dark shady place :P
[20:44] <thewisenerd> usr13, serious? :|
[20:44] <TJ-> usr13: I never let anything do "it" to me !
[20:45] <Wolfblood> i know windows phones have a registry
[20:45] <thewisenerd> k1l_, i'm terribly sorry. I got the '-core' part wrong. I am doing a minimal install
[20:45] <Wolfblood> that's about it. I avoid windows at all costs
[20:45] <thewisenerd> Wolfblood, the registry is userspace, afaik.
[20:45] <thewisenerd> bootloader runs to the hardware level
[20:45] <DanTurtle> Anyone here have any experience fixing sound issues?
[20:46] <k1l_> Wolfblood: there is no official support for ubuntu on other phones than the developer nexus ones. and for arm devices we have #ubuntu-arm
[20:46] <usr13> thewisenerd: Yes
[20:46] <Wolfblood> No idea, was talking to a developer for the first windows phone on the xkcd channel, he was the one that told me to avoid it because of the registry
[20:46] <TJ-> thewisenerd: So, the installer is running and failing at some step - there's an option on the installer menu to view the installer logs I think, or you can drop to a shell and look at them manually, to figure out the issue
[20:47] <k1l_> Wolfblood: http://askubuntu.com/questions/430253/can-i-run-ubuntu-on-my-htc-8s-windows-phone
[20:47] <Okitain> DanTurtle: "have you tried switching it off and on again?"
[20:47] <thewisenerd> TJ-, ctrl+f<x> should work?
[20:47] <k1l_> Wolfblood: and my answer is: no
[20:47] <reisio> heh
[20:47] <Wolfblood> arghh how did i miss that
[20:47] <usr13> thewisenerd: When it boots, it says "In a pinch, you can..." (basically you just specify the root filesystem).
[20:47] <Wolfblood> i feel like a newb...thanks
[20:47] <Melar> !sl
[20:47] <DanTurtle> I have tried everything I could think of to get it working.  Works in another Linux Distro but not Ubuntu.
[20:47] <thewisenerd> nvm, found it. fourth console has logging
[20:47] <TJ-> thewisenerd: I don't think the installer starts in multi-user runlevels, but it may start additional VTs, not had issues where I needed to do that myself
[20:48] <DanTurtle> Was working in XP before I swapped off XP to Linux.
[20:48] <netlar> I got back Files (nautilus), but now it has no icon, just the gray gear, how can I change that
[20:48] <Okitain> DanTurtle: what's the soundcard?
[20:48] <DanTurtle> AC'97 Audio  HP DC7100
[20:48] <thewisenerd> DanTurtle, ah. ac'97
[20:49] <TJ-> mzaza: Is your system OK now?
[20:49] <DanTurtle> Intel 82801
[20:49] <usr13> thewisenerd: Here is what it looks like:  http://docs.slackware.com/_media/slackware:install:1-welcome.png
[20:49] <mzaza> TJ-: Worked! thanks man :) You're super hero :D
[20:50] <f00dWorksta> Hi, need some help if possible: when right clicking on a menu item on the unity sidebar, the menu appears behind everything so I can't see it. A restart solves it, but was wondering if there is anything I can do without a restart
[20:50] <Okitain> DanTurtle: does alsamixer show your card?
[20:51] <DanTurtle> It shows "Analog Devices AD1981B"
[20:51] <Netham45> I've got a weak computer (first-gen Atom, 2GB Ram) that I was hoping to use as a thin client of sorts. I was hoping I could use it to stream movies off of my desktop, but it's too weak to decode a 1080p video on the fly.
[20:52] <Netham45> Anyone know anything I could use to stream the videos similar to Steam's In-home streaming (tried with XBMC, it's too targeted to low latency, the video stream sucks)
[20:52] <reisio> Netham45: just serve them with it then
[20:52] <reisio> Netham45: mount over sshfs to the other box
[20:53] <reisio> the network device is probably more than up to snuff
[20:53] <Netham45> reisio, the Atom PC can't play back a 1080p video.
[20:53] <Netham45> It's on a gigabit network, network isn't the issue.
[20:53] <mzaza> TJ-: Just one thing, it seems my internal mouse and keyboard are disabled
[20:54] <xcyclonix> nirvana
[20:54] <usr13> Netham45: vlc
[20:54] <DanTurtle> PaulseAudio mixer says "ICE958"
[20:55] <xcyclonix> ping
[20:55] <DanTurtle> IEC958
[20:55] <TJ-> mzaza: Check the logs ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for the X server, and "/var/log/dmesg" and/or "/var/log/kern.log" for the OS), to ensure the devices are recognised at some level, or errors are reported that will give you a clue
[20:55] <DanTurtle> Digital Output (S/PDIF)
[20:56] <DanTurtle> How do I know if I am using ALSA or PullseAudio?
[20:56] <reisio> DanTurtle: you're using pulseaudio
[20:56] <reisio> and alsa :)
[20:56] <reisio> (underneath)
[20:56] <DanTurtle> Okay.
[20:56] <f00dWorksta> all my indicators are missing (include the one that shows a menu for shutdown/logout/restart...etc). This happened after a `unity --replace`
[20:56] <k1l_> pulseaudio is the main soundserver
[20:56] <usr13> DanTurtle: You are using both
[20:57] <f00dWorksta> anyway of restarting the indicators?
[20:57] <mzaza> TJ-: everything seems related to the external keyboard i use
[20:57] <TJ-> DanTurtle: Hardware > kernel > ALSA > Pulseaudio"
[20:57] <DanTurtle> I went through ALL the settings and nothing I do gives me sound through the onboard speaker,
[20:57] <k1l_> DanTurtle: see in "alsamixer" if the sound is muted ("MM" under the lines)
[20:57] <patros> having problems installing mysql, keep getting Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1). Any ideas?
[20:57] <thewisenerd> `apt-get install linux-kernel` should do for installing the kernel, nay?
[20:57] <TJ-> mzaza: What devices are missing, what PC is it, how are those devices connected/interfaced ?
[20:58] <usr13> DanTurtle: Pulseaudio is a sound server that runs ontop of another sound server [alsa].  You can uninstall pulseaudio and your audio will still work, but if you uninstall alsa you have nothing.
[20:58] <k1l_> patros: please put all that into a pastebin and show the link here
[20:58] <mzaza> TJ-: It's a vaio laptop, internal usb i guess?
[20:58] <k1l_> thewisenerd: no
[20:58] <DanTurtle> Master M has MM there.
[20:58] <k1l_> thewisenerd: linux-generic
[20:58] <k1l_> DanTurtle: unmute it
[20:58] <TJ-> mzaza: usually its PS/2 i8042 interface ... you many need additional kernel options
[20:59] <mzaza> TJ-: it used to work fine before this problem
[20:59] <DanTurtle> Still no sound
[21:00] <usr13> DanTurtle: When you were in alsamixer, did you see that the sound card is properly identified?
[21:00] <DanTurtle> Analog Devices AD1981B
[21:01] <thewisenerd> k1l_, thanks
[21:01] <patros> K1l http://pastebin.com/Ty3gQt1t
[21:01] <usr13> DanTurtle: (in alsamixer, hit F6 select sound card)
[21:01] <TJ-> mzaza: there's a bunch of i8042.XXXX module options can be set if that is the issue - the usual are "i8042.nomux i8042.reset"
[21:01] <LordDragon> hey all
[21:02] <DanTurtle> I get 0 Default, 1 ICH6, enter device name
[21:02] <LordDragon> is there a patch for the bash exploit?
[21:02] <k1l_> patros: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:02] <k1l_> !usn | LordDragon already patched since hours
[21:02] <usr13> DanTurtle: You could try uninstalling pulseaudio
[21:02] <LordDragon> k well check it out thanks
[21:02] <TJ-> mzaza: 'dmesg' should tell you how the internal keyboard and mouse are interfaced, there will usually be entries about the i8042 early on in the boot - try "grep i8042 /var/log/dmesg"
[21:02] <f00dWorksta> I'm trying to restart unity-panel-service... but killing it doesn't restart it. So I tried to start it manually at /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service, but then it only loads the language switcher... none of the indicators are showing up
[21:03] <patros> 14.04 K1l
[21:03] <TJ-> LordDragon: Yes. http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[21:03] <usr13> DanTurtle: DO you use skype?
[21:03] <LordDragon> is there a command line tool for installing the latest security patches?
[21:03] <DanTurtle> Yes I do
[21:03] <k1l_> patros: you had some PPA or other mysql sources installed?
[21:03] <TJ-> LordDragon: "apt-get install/upgrade"
[21:03] <mzaza> TJ-: the kyeboard even didn't work in gurb screen. i had to use externals
[21:03] <usr13> DanTurtle: Ok, well, if you uninstall pulseaudio, skype will no longer work.
[21:03] <LordDragon> ok cool thanks
[21:03] <xangua> LordDragon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:04] <reisio> 'apulse'?
[21:04] <reisio> who needs skype in these days of webrtc anyways
[21:04] <TJ-> mzaza: Hmmm... then if it is connected via USB not i8042, maybe the BIOS has "USB Legacy Support" disabled?
[21:04] <patros> mariadb in 12.10 before update
[21:04] <k1l_> LordDragon: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" (no it will not upgrade to a new ubuntu release)
[21:04] <usr13>  webrtc?
[21:04] <no-one> I added a usb wifi card to take dual advantage of the wifi at my hotel. I want to check on how much it helped. Is there a gui for me to see each individual cards bandwidth?
[21:04] <usr13> reisio: webrtc?
[21:05] <k1l_> patros: well, somewhat seems to have had a strange mysql numbering
[21:05] <LordDragon> ok done. does the server need rebooted before changes will take effect?
[21:05] <TJ-> usr13: Real Time Communications
[21:05] <xangua> no-one: to take dual advantage?
[21:05] <k1l_> patros: "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 10.0 to 5.5. If are sure you want to downgrade to 5.5, remove the file "/var/lib/mysql/debian-*.flag and try installing again.
[21:05] <reisio> usr13: https://talky.io/
[21:05] <LordDragon> ah nevermind. the test fails now
[21:05] <LordDragon> must be fixed
[21:05] <LordDragon> :)
[21:05] <LordDragon> thanks
[21:06] <patros> great, thanks for the help
[21:06] <baako> sudo mysql_install_db
[21:06] <baako> i am installing LAMP like this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[21:06] <no-one> xangua. So I could get more bandwidth. I believe they throttle each connection. I could be wrong. Im not very knowledgable.
[21:07] <TJ-> no-one: Unless you've configured some fancy routing, only one will be used
[21:07] <minimec> DanTurtle: May I add some idea.... In Alsamixer, check for sources like 'PCM' 'Front' and similar. Try to change the volume on them... Some soundcard have a lot of 'lines' ...
[21:07] <DanTurtle> I went through ALL the options and un-muted them and I also made them all full volume
[21:07] <usr13> reisio: Awesome.  Thanks.
[21:08] <DanTurtle> Still no sound
[21:08] <no-one> Would it be difficult?
[21:08] <DanTurtle> I have to find out what Knoppix did that made it work that Ubuntu doesn't do.
[21:09] <minimec> DanTurtle: Ok. Can you play some file with 'mpg123 <somefile>.mp3'in a console? Don't know if mpg123 is in a default install...
[21:10] <reisio> usr13: also, the nightly builds of Firefox come with an icon that links to a built-in thing that does much the same as talky.io
[21:10] <DanTurtle> I tried playing "test Sound" though the sound settings and also I tried different MP3 files through VLC, Rhythmbox, and a wav file through terminal all to no avail.
[21:12] <TJ-> DanTurtle: which playback device does Pulseaudio have set as the default?
[21:13] <DanTurtle> Digital output(S/PDIF)
[21:13] <minimec> DanTurtle: Ok. Did you post the output of 'lspci | grep Audio' somewhere?
[21:13] <DanTurtle> No
[21:13] <TJ-> DanTurtle: And is that connected to an external amplifier?
[21:13] <vitimiti> hi
[21:13] <usr13> reisio: cool
[21:13] <DanTurtle> I don't have any speakers to hook to the sound out in the back of the PC that is why I am trying to get the onboard front speaker working.
[21:14] <Okitain> DanTurtle: install pavucontrol
[21:14] <Okitain> DanTurtle: then, in pavucontrol, switch the card's output
[21:14] <TJ-> DanTurtle: " Digital output(S/PDIF)" is either a co-ax or optical link to an external amplifier. So you won't be hearing anything
[21:14] <usr13> DanTurtle: Did you look at all the channels in alsamixer? (They usually don't all fit on the screen by default.)
[21:15] <TJ-> DanTurtle: You'll need to select the "Built-in Audio" or similar.
[21:15] <EiriksHDD> hello, i have a live usb that don't want to boot, will it be okay to just copy and overwrite /boot ?
[21:15] <usr13> DanTurtle: But as Okitain suggests, you may find what you need in pavucontrol as well.
[21:15] <TJ-> DanTurtle: However, I think the real problem could be your mention of the "onboard front speaker" - what speaker do you mean?
[21:16] <Okitain> EiriksHDD: Could you overwrite everything?
[21:16] <DanTurtle> I tried that already
[21:16] <baako> AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[21:16] <DanTurtle> 2 options are for the Digital Output(S/PDIF) and the others are for the headphone
[21:16] <baako> why do i get that message when i restart apache2
[21:16] <TJ-> DanTurtle: is the PC a laptop with internal stereo speakers?
[21:16] <reisio> EiriksHDD: you could just rename it
[21:16] <usr13> DanTurtle: And also consider the fact that alsamixer does not always label all of the channels properly.
[21:17] <DanTurtle> Desktop computer with a built-in speaker in the front.
[21:17] <k1l_> DanTurtle: you mean the "beep" speaker?
[21:17] <DanTurtle> HP DC7100 SFF computer.
[21:17] <DanTurtle> No.
[21:17] <DanTurtle> Not a beep speaker.
[21:17] <k1l_> ok
[21:17] <TJ-> DanTurtle: That 'speaker' is the PC Speaker, for beeps not real audio output, it needs the pcspkr kernel driver and an additional pulseaudio module to drive it
[21:17] <usr13> k1l_: Some desktop PCs have an internal speaker, (other than the "beep" speaker).
[21:18] <EiriksHDD> reisio thanks i'll try that :)
[21:18] <DanTurtle> No, TJ, it is a true speaker that plays sound.
[21:19] <DanTurtle> As I mentioned I used it in XP before swapping to Linux and also it works when I use Knoppix Live off the USB but not in Ubuntu
[21:19] <k1l_> DanTurtle: ok, can you pastebin "dmesg"?
[21:20] <DanTurtle> 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[21:20] <DanTurtle> Okay
[21:20] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: What happens when you connect headphone, than sound?
[21:21] <DanTurtle> I get sound, but I hate having to use headphones.
[21:21] <TJ-> DanTurtle: OK, the technical docs from HP aren't too clear on what the speaker is connected to, but if it is to the internal AC97 chipset, then one of the playback devices should be driving it - I assume it is a single speaker merging a stereo output?
[21:21] <Laban> Is it possible to copy data using rsync and have it persist hard links?
[21:21] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: Do you have graphical desktop?
[21:22] <DanTurtle> Yes
[21:22] <Laban> My goal is to move an rsnapshot-archive of 1TB with 180 hard links per file.
[21:22] <usr13> k1l_: Here is one that has a build in speaker: http://static.trustedreviews.com/94/8487da/6878/3629-2.jpg  And I know from experience, that it goes off when you plugin external speakers, and, although I've not confirmed it, but I suspect there is a mechanical disconnect in the audio output jack.
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[21:22] <k1l_> usr13: yes, that is some acpi stuff in most cases
[21:22] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: Do you see speakericon in menubar?
[21:22] <usr13> k1l_: Yea, could be.
[21:23] <TJ-> DanTurtle: haha: "Integrated Intel® Audio with Premier Internal Speaker"
[21:23] <DanTurtle> http://pastebin.com/uFAbSJTs
[21:23] <DanTurtle> Yes.  That is how I get to sound settings CyberGrabber
[21:23] <mzaza> TJ-: The problem seems not related to Ubuntu, as the laptop internal keyboard doesn't work even in BIOS
[21:23] <DanTurtle> CyberGabber
[21:25] <TJ-> mzaza: have you had it apart recently?
[21:25] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: Lets try the following; on speaker-icon, rightclick 'sound preferences'
[21:25] <DanTurtle> Okay
[21:25] <mzaza> TJ-: No, the laptop should be considred new
[21:26] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: Then tab 'Output', at 'setting for the selected device' do you there 'connector' ?
[21:27] <DanTurtle> I have 3 options: Digital Output, and 2 headphones
[21:27] <DanTurtle> Amplified and non-amplified
[21:28] <CyberGabber> DanTurtle: can you choose 'analog speakers' anywhere?
[21:28] <k1l_> maybe the one speaker is wired as a headphone inside?
[21:28] <DanTurtle> No listed
[21:28] <DanTurtle> I saw that in the PulseAudio settings but when I select that it swaps output to the headphones.
[21:29] <EiriksHDD> ok, i think i know the problem, my live usb has somehow lost the boot loader, is there a way to put it back without removing the boot from my current usb (i'm running a usb hdd now)
[21:29] <DanTurtle> Check out Boot Repair Disk EirikHDD
[21:30] <minimec> EiriksHDD: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[21:30] <baako> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:30] <baako> help
[21:30] <minimec> EiriksHDD: Something like this but on your USB stick
[21:30] <k1l_> baako: is another program installing updates or packages?
[21:30] <baako> oh yes
[21:30] <rberg> baako: wait a few min something is updating in the background
[21:31] <baako> the software update
[21:31] <DanTurtle> That will do it baako
[21:31] <Caroga> TJ-, still here perhaps ?
[21:33] <mzaza> TJ-: Had to remove battery and connect again :D
[21:33] <TJ-> DanTurtle: Add "options snd-hda-intel model=basic" to "/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf" then try a reboot
[21:34] <DanTurtle> Don't know what I did but it started working.  <Dizzy look>
[21:34] <metempsychosis> hello! I'm currently installing kubuntu for the first time (recovering windows user) and I'm having trouble getting the correct resolution to display
[21:34] <DanTurtle> If it stops working I will try that TJ-  Thank you
[21:34] <TJ-> DanTurtle: *check* the setting remains by doing a reboot !
[21:34] <DanTurtle> Good idea.  be back shortly
[21:34] <TJ-> Caroga: Just heading off :)
[21:34] <Caroga> TJ-, could I ask you one more thing before you're  going ?
[21:35] <TJ-> Caroga: Fire away
[21:35] <metempsychosis> would someone be abe
[21:35] <Caroga> Because of prior fuckup by my own I've now reinstalled the entire system. Im not at the part where I can partition my disks and setup LVM.
[21:35] <metempsychosis> *would someone be able to help me install it? I'd appreciate it! :)
[21:35] <Caroga> Does the way I partition my disks affect the way of setting up the logical groups ?
[21:36] <Caroga> Cuz I was thinking of just creating /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1
[21:36] <metempsychosis> NVIDIA 430, VGA connection (sucs
[21:36] <Caroga> and setup LVM to have multiple LV's and VG's
[21:36] <Caroga> end of message.
[21:37] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, if you choose to install to LVM. If it were me I'd use sda (the 60G mirror) for an operating system VG only, ignoring the 2TB mirror for now. Once the OS is installed, then I'd create a 2nd VG on the 2TB mirror and LVs within it for media/cloud, and mount those into the file-system as needed
[21:37] <metempsychosis> *sucks I know, I might change this if I can.), installed the recommended drivers
[21:38] <Caroga> thanks TJ- that was exactly what I wanted to know. Sidenote: it's a 4TB mirror, but that's what you ment as well I think
[21:38] <DanTurtle> Sound doesn't stay but If I go into Gnome ALSA Mixer and un-mute the "Master M" the sound returns.
[21:38] <DanTurtle> Thank you all for the help.
[21:38] <metempsychosis> no options to change it to 1080p in the GUI and neither 1080 or 720p worked via xrandr
[21:39] <Caroga> Thank you TJ- , you've been a great help to the community, especially me, today xD
[21:39] <Caroga> I've learned a lot.
[21:39] <TJ-> metempsychosis: most video resolution issues are due to the monitor's EDID being corrupted, or not getting to the video driver, so the driver has to use lowest-common-denominator resolutions. Use "xrandr -q" to discover what modes the driver knows about for that output
[21:39] <metempsychosis> ok doing this now. thanks!
[21:39] <TJ-> Caroga: Yes, 4TB :)
[21:39] <Crontical> game
[21:40] <metempsychosis> what information from this do you need?
[21:40] <metempsychosis> Im typing this on a seperate computer by the way
[21:41] <TJ-> metempsychosis: Next, check the X server's log to find out why it didn't get the correct set of modes from the monitor "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look for all lines mentioning "EDID" or "modeline" or anything resolution related
[21:43] <baako> if a sudo user install an app can a non sudo user us it as well?
[21:43] <jbardin> does anyone here make heavy use of runlevels?
[21:43] <metempsychosis> where do I check the x server's log? sorry, I'm very new to linux
[21:44] <k1l_> baako: depends on the app
[21:44] <TJ-> metempsychosis:  "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:44] <metempsychosis> ah, lol
[21:45] <TJ-> metempsychosis: To exit "less" press "q" (for Quit)
[21:45] <baako> k1l_ such as composer, LAMP, sublime text, filezilla
[21:46] <TJ-> jbardin: Upstart doesn't really bother about runlevels, although it does have some compatibility features to recognise them
[21:46] <k1l_> baako: some do need sudo because they need to open a port etc. but the program will tell you if it will need it. so in general dont start everything with sudo
[21:46] <jbardin> TJ-: is it a dying concept? or does it still hold value?
[21:46] <jbardin> i ask because I am building some stuff that depends on switching from runlevel 2 to 3 and it seems ok on the surface
[21:46] <TJ-> jbardin: It has its uses, especially for administrators, isolation, recovery, etc.
[21:47] <baako> k1l_ I have 2 account 1 is a sudo and the other is a normall account. i want use a normall account for everyday usage
[21:47] <jbardin> i am just concerned I might be getting into either uncharted territory, or worthless territory
[21:47] <rww> !runlevel | jbardin
[21:47] <metempsychosis> you know what? would this be easier via pastebin? I can log in on the target pc
[21:47] <TJ-> metempsychosis: much :)
[21:48] <rww> jbardin: and yes, it's a dying concept. Ubuntu uses upstart, and most everything else has or is switching to systemd, neither of which do runlevels.
[21:48] <jbardin> its all just dependecy graphs right
[21:48] <EiriksHDD> ok, i know how to repair grub, i need to know which /dev/XXX i need to put it in (it's the USB Flash, so /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1): http://paste.ubuntu.com/8421078/
[21:48] <jbardin> in upstart and systemd
[21:48] <rww> jbardin: yep
[21:49] <TJ-> jbardin: upstart still emits runlevels, and reacts to them e.g. "start on runlevel [!2345]" and so on
[21:49] <minimec> EiriksHDD: ../../sdb <-- Master of the USB device
[21:49] <jbardin> yea… i kinda just liked the idea of bucketing modes of operation into runlevels and then being able to switch around
[21:50] <jbardin> vs. just knowing that a http servers "main run mode" is having nginx started
[21:50] <EiriksHDD> minimec saved the day :)
[21:50] <baako> hi guys i have a bit of an issue i am install composer on ubuntu. i have ran curl -sS https://getcomposer.org/installer | php
[21:50] <minimec> EiriksHDD: Let's wait and see ;)
[21:50] <EiriksHDD> lol
[21:50] <EiriksHDD> brb
[21:50] <baako> when i run sudo mv composer.phar /usr/local/bin/composer
[21:50] <jbardin> if I can coordinate runlevels across hosts in a cluster, I can coordinate maintenence and stuff in a more generic way
[21:50] <baako> am getting mv: cannot stat ‘composer.phar’: No such file or directory
[21:51] <jbardin> such as, put all $app-servers + $job-servers into runevel 2 (shut down rails web app, and redis server and ruby code on job servers)
[21:51] <jbardin> instead of having to say, on $app-servers, stop $app, on $job-servers stop $job-code
[21:52] <TJ-> jbardin: makes sense :)
[21:53] <metempsychosis1> http://pastebin.com/F5JVPjaY
[21:54] <baako> how do you uninstall composer on ubuntu
[21:55] <cn28h> what is composer?
[21:55] <shay_shay_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&keywords=broadcom-sta&searchon=names does anyone know what the difference between broadcom-sta-dkms and broadcom-sta-source? ive installed both and they seem to do the same thing
[21:55] <aeos> hi users @ all
[21:56] <Loshki> baako: seen this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116960/global-installation-of-composer-manual
[21:56] <TJ-> metempsychosis: There's a better way to paste the entire file: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:57] <metempsychosis> that's...kind of amazing
[21:57] <TJ-> metempsychosis: I can tell you and Linux are going to get on well :)
[21:58] <CyberGabber> baako: /part
[21:58] <baako> i am trying to remove composer so i used sudo apt-get remove compser
[21:58] <baako> E: Unable to locate package composer
[21:58] <patrick__> +i Patricar
[21:58] <Ben64> baako: then thats not the package name
[21:59] <patrick__> i do NOT understand.
[21:59] <patrick__> can i do ?
[21:59] <Ben64> patrick__: this is the ubuntu support channel, are you in the right place?
[22:00] <baako> Ben64 :(
[22:00] <k1l_> baako: how did you install that then?
[22:00] <patrick__> i try to use irssi, they told me to do so...
[22:00] <ObrienDave> baako: what composer?
[22:01] <baako> k1l_ curl -sS https://getcomposer.org/installer | php
[22:01] <mjuszczak> Is there a way with apt to see what version of a package would be installed with one command?
[22:01] <Ben64> baako: if you didn't use apt-get to install it, apt-get won't uninstall it
[22:01] <mjuszczak> apt-cache showpkg shows the packages available but not which one it would choose
[22:01] <TJ-> mjuszczak: "apt-cache policy ,,,"
[22:02] <patrick__> my usual name is Patricar, but didn't accept it...
[22:03] <ObrienDave> might be registered to someone else
[22:04] <patrick__> quit
[22:04] <mjuszczak> hmmmm, weird TJ- -- it isn't choosing the right version even though I have a pin in preferences.d
[22:04] <baako> Could not create file /usr/local/bin/composer.phar: fopen(/usr/local/bin/composer.phar): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[22:04] <mjuszczak> oh, hrm: W: Did not understand pin type 1.4.6-1ubuntu3ppa1
[22:05] <baako> so i need to do sudo Could not create file /usr/local/bin/composer.phar: fopen(/usr/local/bin/composer.phar): failed to open stream: Permission denied
[22:05] <EiriksHDD> ok, getting closer i got to grub rescue but it said the device wasn't connected
[22:06] <k1l_> !away > Sero|Away
[22:07] <EiriksHDD> how do i get it to do the dynamic boot (used for booting the live usb on any pc)
[22:07] <paul_> hello
[22:08] <metempsychosis> by the way, if you're going to private message me please do it here. I'm really paying attention to metempsychosis1
[22:09] <metempsychosis> *not really
[22:09] <paul_> is this for chat
[22:09] <k1l_> !ot | paul_
[22:09] <docmur> I have a ubuntu 14.04 server and for some reason when clients are coming into the network via wirless the routers and wireless access points will occasionally assign the gateway of the network to be the ip address of the server, which is wrong.
[22:10] <ObrienDave> !ask | paul_
[22:10] <metempsychosis> !patience
[22:10] <patrick_> nick Patricar
[22:11] <paul_> i see well i am trying to run paltalk but am not having any luck i am on linux mint 17 which is based on ubuntu
[22:11] <patrick_> nick Patricar
[22:11] <paul_> so i guess its ok for me to be here
[22:11] <k1l_> paul_: then please ask in the mint channels that are set the standard channels in your irc clients
[22:11] <Ben64> paul_: this channel is only for ubuntu, not mint
[22:12] <paul_> ok thenks sorry for disturbing you
[22:12] <EiriksHDD> i have a live usb that is currently stuck booting into grub recovery, it says the device isn't found, how do i fix that?
[22:12] <ObrienDave> patrick_: /nick Patricar
[22:13] <k1l_> !away > Hobbyboy|Sleep
[22:14] <baako> mv: cannot stat ‘composer.phar’: No such file or directory
[22:14] <The_Woodsman> does anyone know how i could recursively grep only through certain file types?
[22:14] <baako> how do i check if i have any file called "composer"
[22:14] <baako> on this system
[22:14] <EiriksHDD> baako locate composer
[22:14] <Patricar> quit
[22:15] <EiriksHDD> Patricar use /quit
[22:15] <EiriksHDD> lol to late
[22:16] <ObrienDave> why do people come here AFTER they have problems? lol
[22:17] <EiriksHDD> ObrienDave we all need a little help here and there, :D
[22:17] <EiriksHDD> i have a live usb that is currently stuck booting into grub recovery, it says the device isn't found, how do i fix that?
[22:18] <Patricar> q
[22:21] <k1l_> !away > mulga|
[22:23] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: (re-)install grub .. What operating system and version is installed on the system's hard drive ? same same as that of the USB drive ?
[22:24] <xbuntu> hi did anyone know how to change separateur
[22:24] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om yes same
[22:26] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Then: run code -> sudo fdisk -lu <- to know the usb drives designation, and once known -> sudo grub-install /dev/sdx <- where 'x' is the final character from the 'fdisk' output ( say, sdc ) .
[22:26] <cyrn> uhg sorry need to reconnectagain, won't rejoin til I'm done.
[22:28] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Be certain ! .. do not wnat to write the boot code to where it messes up something else ! .
[22:28] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om i did that and it only boots into recovery
[22:35] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Well, we can go a step deeper, and mount the usb drive explicitly, and rewite the MBR's code . To be sure, sudo fdisk -lu | pastebinit <- and we set this up.
[22:36] <EiriksHDD> kk dinner first :)
[22:37] <Bashing-om> airtonix: Sustanence ! // :)
[22:38] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Ooopps, sorry airtonix for that ping.
[22:40] <EiriksHDD> rofl
[22:40] <ErbBetaPatched> Why do people have such bad ping?
[22:41] <ObrienDave> contageous
[22:41] <ErbBetaPatched> They should download less ping.
[22:41] <ObrienDave> that would be pong
[22:42] <fast> hey guys. This is probably the wrong place but maybe you can point me in the right direction. Trying to avoid needing a windows partition. I am running 14.04 with the xorg open source drivers and my 3 monitors work great with only one little work around. Now I would really like to get Civ 5 running, the only game I play. If I use the proprietary fgrlx drivers the game works great, but the monitors wont boot all 3, and is generally buggy. Th
[22:42] <fast> e current work around is to switch drivers, reboot and repeat... This can't be right. Hopfully you guys can point me in the right direction.
[22:42] <fast> Saphire R9 270x graphics card.
[22:43] <daftykins> fast: welcome to AMD on Linux
[22:44] <ErbBetaPatched> fast: seems about right.
[22:45] <stegbth> hello everybody
[22:45] <stegbth> i damaged my X11 on Ubuntu 14.04.1
[22:46] <stegbth>  in my laptop i have an intel haswell gpu and an ati radeon 8790m
[22:46] <ErbBetaPatched> how did you manage that?
[22:46] <stegbth> so i installed first the latest ati driver (14.20) current beta and rebooted
[22:47] <stegbth> afterwards i installed the intel graphicsdriver which upgraded several packages from 10.1.?? to 10.2.2
[22:48] <stegbth> i did this cause i had several X11 crashes before
[22:48] <stegbth> but now X dies with signal 11 (Segmentation fault)
[22:48] <stegbth> removing the fglrx and installing the ubuntu version doesn't hlep
[22:48] <stegbth> removing the fglrx and installing the ubuntu version doesn't help
[22:49] <metempsychosis> just posting this once more because it's been a while, not trying to spam (let me know if this is too often. I've installed the recommended NVIDIA drivers on kubuntu but I cannot change my resolution to 1080 or even 720p (although 1080p worked in windows). the following is a log file I was asked to post by the person helping me earlier: pastebin.com/F5JVPjaY
[22:50] <stegbth> ErbBetaPatched, did you mean me?
[22:50] <ErbBetaPatched> stegbth: I did.
[22:53] <fast> stegbth, I had to reinstal from a backup I had in /etc/X11
[22:54] <ErbBetaPatched> That's a thinker, it is
[22:54] <stegbth> fast, what did you reinstall? complete x11 or only the configuration?
[22:54] <stegbth> the configuration i already have done
[22:54] <fast> only the config
[22:55] <Bashing-om> stegbth: See: https://github.com/beidl/amd-indicator for a means to use either chipsets .
[22:56] <stegbth> Bashing-om, thanx. first i need to get a working x11 bak
[22:57] <stegbth> fast did you also install the intel graphics?
[22:57] <stegbth> from intel,
[22:57] <stegbth> i got an additional sources.list
[22:59] <eka> hi all... need to tar *.png recursively ... can't make tar do it... any tip?
[22:59] <reisio> eka: you can make tar do it, with find
[22:59] <eka> reisio: with find execute?
[23:00] <reisio> eka: mmm, you could, but
[23:00] <reisio> eka: I'd just do this: tar -cf foo.tar $(find dir/ -type f -iname '*.png')
[23:00] <eka> reisio: sorry , how then?
[23:00] <eka> reisio: thanks will try that
[23:00] <usr13> eka: Want to tar and gzip too?
[23:01] <eka> usr13: no need... too many pics... and png is already compressed
[23:01] <usr13> eka: If so: tar -czf /path/to/files-dir
[23:01] <usr13> ikonia: If not, leave out the z
[23:01] <eka> usr13: need to filter all the *.png
[23:02] <reisio> eka: or find dir/ -type f -iname '*.png' | tar -cf foo.tar -T -
[23:02] <usr13> eka: Oh, do do not include .ping files?
[23:03] <reisio> but that takes looking up frikkin' -T...
[23:03] <reisio> and $( ) is worth using all the time, for almost any executable
[23:03] <eka> reisio: previous one gave: bash: /bin/tar: Argument list too long
[23:03] <reisio> eka: hahahah, okay
[23:03] <eka> reisio: will try your second option
[23:04] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om still there?
[23:05] <reisio> or: find dir/ -type f -iname '*.png' -print0 | xargs -0 tar -cf foo.tar -T -
[23:05] <usr13> eka: I think you can also use the --exclude-from option
[23:05] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Yeah .. still .
[23:06] <eka> usr13: I think second option from reisio is working
[23:06] <reisio> eka: cool
[23:06] <reisio> kinda makes sense
[23:06] <eka> so many files
[23:06] <reisio> although it's crazy stupid tar doesn't take _STANDARD_ freaking in by default
[23:07] <EiriksHDD> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8421474/
[23:08] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om ^^
[23:08] <reisio> oh I guess it's just lines vs a single item
[23:08] <reisio> $(cat -) works
[23:08]  * reisio rolls eyes
[23:09] <Basketballl> hey anyone here know anything about cronjobs
[23:09] <reisio> Basketballl: no, but many ones do
[23:10] <stegbth> i removed x11 and tried to reinstall, but the displaymanager fails sto start at all and i do not even get an login prompt :(
[23:10] <reisio> a DM requires X
[23:11] <stegbth> a sorry, i wasn't too unpatient i have an console login
[23:11] <stegbth> Basketballl, what's your problem with cronjobs?
[23:12] <Basketballl> i have 3 cronjob lines in sudo crontab -e but they dont work
[23:12] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Look at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/8421474/.
[23:12] <Basketballl> it is supposed to sleep my pc for a certain amount of time but it doesnt
[23:13] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om ok/.
[23:13] <alex^> is there anything "wrong" with skipping releases when you upgrade ubuntu?  say i have a 12.10 machine, can i just put in the sources.list file for 14.04 and do a do-release-upgrade ?
[23:13] <ObrienDave> Basketballl, paste one line here and someone will take a look
[23:13] <ObrienDave> alex^, NOT a good idea
[23:14] <Basketballl> 0 0 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12 0,1,2,3,4 rtcwake -m mem -u -t $(date +\%s -d "tomorrow 06:00")
[23:14] <Basketballl> 0 7 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,11,12 1,2,3,4,5  rtcwake -m mem -u -t $(date +\%s -d "today 15:00")
[23:14] <Basketballl> 0 0 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,11,12,6,7 4,5,6 pm-suspend
[23:14] <alex^> ObrienDave: then what are the options for upgrading a 12.10 box, being that 12.10 AND 13.04 are no longer supported nor hosted at ubuntu? :/
[23:14] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om i see the same thing as i do without the pipeline
[23:14] <eka> reisio: 79k files... 5gb and counting. :P
[23:14] <reisio> eka: heh
[23:14] <ObrienDave> alex^, a clean install of 14.04 keeping your installed data
[23:15] <reisio> eka: all PNG? What on earth
[23:15] <alex^> ObrienDave: what if its a colocated machine?
[23:15] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: (??) The USB drive is a Windows file system, there is no ubuntu file system there for the boot code to hand off to . What is your end goal here ?
[23:15] <ObrienDave> alex^, i would not know
[23:15] <stegbth> Basketballl, is there something listed in syslog?, rtcwake is in /usr/sbin, this isn't imho in the path when started from cron
[23:16] <alex^> ObrienDave: ok .. well guess i'll find out soon what happens to this machine which is now going from 12.10 to 13.10 in one step :p
[23:16] <eka> reisio: not png... images... I needed to know the way to tar... I filtered by name...it's a production server with a huge amount of images... and I need to tranfer all ads-* images to other server
[23:16] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om it's a live usb, i don't understand why it's not showing up
[23:16] <stegbth> also the "variable" $(date... ) didn't work for me a while ago
[23:17] <stegbth> so i had to write a wrapperscript
[23:18] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: "showing up" depends on what you have enabled in the file manager for "removable media" . You want to try and mount that USB drive ? I am not the best to advise you on that, as I am not familiar with mounting a FAT32 (Windows) volume .
[23:19] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om i think i'll have to just download another ubuntu iso and try again :( that's going take a long time at 9kb/s
[23:20] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: K, like I advise, presently there is only a Windows file system on that USB, no sign of 'buntu ! .
[23:21] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om is there a way to do it without an iso?
[23:22] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om make another live usb i mean
[23:22] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Yeah, there is, but I have never attempted a 'net install so I can not advise on how to go about it.
[23:23] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om yeah i'd still have to download for days
[23:24] <daftykins> get the mini.iso
[23:24] <daftykins> that's basically what you want.
[23:24] <EiriksHDD> daftykins how big is that?
[23:24] <daftykins> ~20MB
[23:25] <EiriksHDD> daftykins NICE, can i still apt-clone to it?
[23:25] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: what do you mean by that?
[23:26] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Yuk, on days to download, I might consider coping the installed hard drive to the USB ?? else: -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Minimal_installations , many ways to install ubuntu.
[23:26] <EiriksHDD> send all my apt to it
[23:26] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: do you mean use a stash of .deb's to update quicker?
[23:26] <benzhninja> right guys, cya later. Its time for me to hit the sack
[23:27] <EiriksHDD> daftykins yep
[23:27] <metempsychosis> beat that sack! show it now mercy!
[23:27] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om yeah i'm looking now
[23:27] <metempsychosis> *no
[23:27] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: yeah if you follow the steps and select to do a minimal install, then paste in the packages, then install more you should be good
[23:27] <daftykins> metempsychosis: this is not a channel for random chat, support only thanks.
[23:27] <Nickwiz> Using a2db bluetooth, should there be some playback running in sound?
[23:29] <Nickwiz> It works fine (normally), but I accidentally selected "Profile: Off" under Hardware in sound settings. After switching it back to a2db there is no sound.
[23:29] <Nickwiz> On "Input" the meter show sound is coming in, but there is nothing in "Applications".
[23:29] <EiriksHDD> metempsychosis /join #ubuntu-offtopic thats the open chat
[23:30] <Nickwiz> I have tried restarting PulseAudio and the Bluetooth radio, but no luck in getting the sound back.
[23:31] <Nickwiz> I can do a boot of the PC, but would be nice to know how to fix without booting.
[23:31] <metempsychosis> not interested in chatting. just trying to solve a problem. I'll keep the ot chatter to a minimum though, I understand
[23:32] <Nickwiz> IIRC there use to be some entry under "Applications" when I have playback trough a2dp.
[23:33] <Nickwiz> (mobile phone audio playback over bluetooth - on PC)
[23:34] <stegbth> my X11 is starting the greeting Manager again
[23:34] <stegbth> but when i try to login i the "starting of session failed"
[23:34] <Nickwiz> I use the PulseAudio plugin of Blueman applet 123
[23:35] <EiriksHDD> daftykins can i use the mini.iso of 14.04 on live usb?
[23:35] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: sure, you want to install the latest version. is this a modern fast computer? i'd suggest xubuntu otherwise, but you can pick the desktop later
[23:36] <EiriksHDD> daftykins yep, i got a modern laptop, but 3rd world internet lol
[23:37] <daftykins> d'aww
[23:38] <EiriksHDD> daftykins how do i format that usb?
[23:39] <Nickwiz> Hmmm. OK, had to issue: pactl load-module module-loopback source=NN
[23:39] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: what OS are you in now, downloading this ISO to?
[23:39] <EiriksHDD> ubuntu 14.04
[23:40] <daftykins> EiriksHDD: the "Disks" utility should be what you want to format the disk as FAT - then you can open a terminal and "dd" the ISO onto the flash drive
[23:41] <EiriksHDD> daftykins thanks :)
[23:41] <aum> The Ember Components guide says that component templates can be placed at 'templates/components/template-name.handlebars - but when I put my template there it doesn't load
[23:48] <Basketballl> stegbth, what do i run