[01:05] <sa_> hi all
[01:05] <sa_> are you who control my pv?
[02:21] <Guest59309> Can someone help me please? I'm trying to resize the browser icon to the right of the kmenu button. Does anybody know how to do this?
[02:34] <Guest59309> I'm trying to resize the browser icon to the right of the kmenu button. Does anybody know how to do this?
[06:16] <jackRussel> hello i need help
[06:18] <valorie> jackRussel: can you say more about what you need?
[06:19] <jackRussel> jes ihave a problem with my swap partition
[06:19] <valorie> what problem is that?
[06:19] <valorie> !swap
[06:20] <valorie> the link there might help, jackRussel ^^
[06:20] <jackRussel> yes i know  i have enough but it mountet not automaticly
[06:21] <hateball> !fstab
[06:21] <hateball> That's where you make that happen ^
[07:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:03] <nick_name_> hey
[12:00] <cornfeedhobo> anyone else having trouble with audio dropping lately?
[12:00] <cornfeedhobo> well, nvm, my updates appear to answer yes
[12:09] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, intel audio?
[12:11] <cornfeedhobo> ya
[12:11] <cornfeedhobo> BluesKaj: ^
[12:13] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, there's a bug with the snd-hda-intel driver not loading after upgrades to the system , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel , usually solves the problem and a reboot is usually necessary
[12:26] <cornfeedhobo> BluesKaj: yeah, i had to reboot. is this a kernel-level bug?
[12:27] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, most likely if a reboot is needed
[12:27] <cornfeedhobo> cool, should be easier for me to find and watch. thanks
[12:31] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, that bug has been around for a long time, years in fact, but i can't figure out why it doesn't get fixed...I'm guessing because the fix is so easy
[12:32] <cornfeedhobo> hmmm. i am only just now being hit by it
[12:32] <cornfeedhobo> and i have had this laptop for over a year now
[12:32] <cornfeedhobo> lame
[12:33] <BluesKaj> I have the intel audio chip on thei laptop, but I haven't seen the bug here ...yet :)
[12:33] <BluesKaj> this
[12:34] <cornfeedhobo> heh. that sporadic. have to love hard to peg bugs :p
[12:34] <BluesKaj> this laptop is about a year old too, Lenovo G500
[12:34] <cornfeedhobo> like that kde window decoration ticket that has been open for 2+ years :p
[12:35] <cornfeedhobo> ha! lenovo x1 carbon
[12:35] <cornfeedhobo> i was looking at getting a system76 custom build next
[12:36] <BluesKaj> cornfeedhobo, ahh nice , same machine as my daughter has... being a home user this laptop works well for me
[12:37] <cornfeedhobo> yeah, more suiting. i am pretty mobile
[12:37] <BluesKaj> <----retired
[12:38] <cornfeedhobo> soon.... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YKUOB8MN4Kc/hqdefault.jpg
[12:39] <BluesKaj> heh :)
[14:03] <amichair> does anyone know where one can find a list of tablets which can run Kubuntu (and/or linux in general)?
[15:18] <davls82> Hi all
[15:18] <lordievader> o/
[15:20] <TheFakeazneD525> o/
[16:06] <|xk05|> bash (4.3-7ubuntu1.1), tnx
[17:45] <juanr> quien me puede,ayudar con qwit en kubuntu 14.04,he buscado por todos lados ,,y sigue tirando ,,error while trying oauth....gracias..
[17:45] <aoa_> Dose anyone know anything about Small black box corruption when scroll page on firefox
[17:45] <lordievader> !spanish | juanr
[17:47] <BluesKaj> aoa_, on the fonts /
[17:47] <BluesKaj> ?
[17:49] <aoa_> no i googled and i find a bug reprted on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68410#c42
[17:50] <aoa_> it seem driver intel HD graphic has bug
[17:50] <lordievader> aoa_: From the 'worksforme' status I think it is a hard to reproduce bug.
[17:51] <BluesKaj> have you updated and upgraded ?
[17:51] <aoa_> i update kubuntu any day and i use the last kernel from official repo but i have still this bug
[17:51] <aoa_> please watch this video http://www.mediafire.com/watch/38280t5jhns06uk/Kazam_screencast_00000.mp4
[17:53] <aoa_> it from two Month ago but now i use kubuntu 14.04.1 and still have same bug
[17:53] <lordievader> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:54] <lordievader> According to the bug report that version should contain the fix.
[17:54] <BluesKaj> aoa_, looks like a flash problem
[17:55] <aoa_> lordievade: yes is shuold be but it dosen't
[17:57] <lordievader> aoa_: Also, this is #kubuntu, not #ubuntu.
[17:58] <lordievader> aoa_: Reopen the bug report, I'd say.
[17:58] <aoa_> yes yes i konw but this bug avilable on kubuntu too
[17:59] <aoa_> i like do that but my English is not good for Comment bug
[17:59] <aoa_> i never report any bug
[17:59] <lordievader> Then they won't get fixed either. Developers are not wizards, though sometimes it seems like it.
[18:01] <aoa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8427146/
[18:02] <aoa_> best recommend for me ?
[18:07] <aoa_> where i report this bug ?
[18:08] <aoa_> launchpad
[18:09] <BluesKaj> odd haven't seen that on my laptop with intel gpu i915 driver
[18:13] <aoa_> BluesKaj: have't you any bug on  i915 driver ?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> aoa_, no
[18:14] <aoa_> which use Intel HD graphic ? i use Intel HD 4000
[18:18] <BluesKaj> yes aoa_ , same here
[18:19] <aoa_> i'm confused , for what i have this bug and you haven't ?
[18:20] <aoa_> how i remove driver and reinstall it ?
[18:23] <BluesKaj> aoa_, what is the actual website url, what you posted is only a screenshot ...need to test the real site to see what is happening
[18:28] <aoa_> i wrote topic on kubuntu froum https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?66448-Small-black-box-corruption-when-scroll-firefox-intel-HD-4000&p=359090#post359090
[18:29] <aoa_> but dose not anybody answer me
[18:50]  * BluesKaj shakes his head
[18:50] <BluesKaj> hopeless
[19:17] <usb_less> hi everyone - after doing an upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS foro 14.04 - i find my usb mouse & keyboard no longer work, when kde starts
[19:18] <usb_less> thats should have been *upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS FROM 14.04*
[19:21] <usb_less> could my usb issue be related somehow to upgrading to kernel 3.13.0-36-generic ?
[20:03] <Walex> usb_less: extremely unlikely
[20:03] <Walex> usb_less: I am using that kernel myself.
[20:03] <Walex> usb_less: also, the upgrade from 14.04 to 14.04.1 is rather light and uncontroversial
[20:04] <Walex> usb_less: also you should not "upgrade" to 14.04.1 if you have 14.04; you should be upgrading an LTS pretty much continuously, especially for the security updates.
[20:04] <usb_less> hmm. ok walesx - interestingly the usb mouse +keyboard work fine while in the bios
[20:04] <Walex> usb_less: that is when 14.04.1 is officially released you should already have all the packages at that version except the version release package...
[20:05] <Walex> usb_less: do they work in the character console?
[20:05] <usb_less> i've read elsewhere it  may be related to IOMUU
[20:05] <Walex> usb_less: also look at the output of 'lsusb'
[20:05] <usb_less> or VTd
[20:05] <Walex> usb_less: that could be the case, sounds strange though.
[20:05] <usb_less> kk hold a mo, i'll look
[20:06] <usb_less> agreed :)
[20:06] <Walex> usb_less: are you running it in a VM or on the real HW?
[20:06] <usb_less> no on real HW
[20:07] <usb_less> lsusb --> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:0040 Microsoft Corp. Wheel Mouse Optical
[20:07] <Walex> usb_less: the mouse obviously is there, but the keyboard seems to have gone missing. Weird.
[20:08] <Walex> usb_less: checked the cabling carefully? Changed the USB port "just in case"? But then it works in the BIOS...
[20:08] <Walex> usb_less: are you using a KVM switch? Some unusal keyboard with a non-standard protocol?
[20:09] <usb_less> nope
[20:10] <usb_less> 's a pretty cheap kbrd tbh
[20:10] <BluesKaj> usb_less, this wouldn't happen to be wireless usb KB and mouse ?
[20:11] <usb_less> seem to remember we had tp flash the bios's on pc's  at work to get the kbrds to ever work reliably
[20:11] <usb_less> no, both are wired
[20:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:12] <Walex> usb_less: tried to unplug and plug them in again after boot?
[20:12] <lordievader> Look at the udevadm output when you do that.
[20:12] <Walex> usb_less: I have had some similar trouble, but I use a KVM with keyboard emulation (and without) and mechanical high end keyboards with weird protocols
[20:13] <usb_less> yeah i've tried the plug, unplug thing
[20:13] <Walex> udevadm monitor
[20:13] <Walex> usb_less: look also at 'dmesg | less' after plugging them in again
[20:13] <lordievader> usb_less: Did the udevadm command show you anything when plugging it in?
[20:14] <Walex> usb_less: have you put something else that draws current in nearby USB sockets?
[20:14] <usb_less> no
[20:14] <lordievader> Is that to Walex, or to me?
[20:14] <usb_less> yeah it shows the kbd & mouse being ADDED
[20:15] <lordievader> Ok, at least the kernel sees something happens.
[20:15] <usb_less> yeah
[20:15] <Walex> usb_less: but then why doesn't 'lsusb' list the keyboard?
[20:16] <lordievader> usb_less: dmesg stays empty?
[20:16] <Walex> usb_less: to get better formatting try 'lsusb | pastebinit'
[20:16] <usb_less> never had any issue with 'em prior to the upgrade
[20:16] <Walex> usb_less: then look at the X server log, if they are reconignized by 'udev' they ought to be appearing in there.
[20:17] <usb_less> actually walesx this is what i get from lsusb -> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp.  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 003: ID 045b:0210 Hitachi, Ltd  Bus 004 Device 002: ID 045b:0210 Hitachi, Ltd  Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 003 Devi
[20:17] <usb_less> kk let me look in the log
[20:17] <lordievader> !paste | usb_less
[20:17] <Walex> usb_less: as I told you, use 'pastebinit'
[20:17] <usb_less> ubottu - gotcha - ty
[20:18] <usb_less> lmfao, smartass bot
[20:18] <lordievader> That's ubottu for you ;)
[20:19] <Walex> usb_less: doing a search for "045b:0210" turns up some interesting articles...
[20:19] <Walex> usb_less: they seem to refer to using a USB3 for a keyboard not being always a good idea.
[20:20] <usb_less> didn't think mine was usb 3 tbh
[20:20] <Walex> usb_less: your hard to read past does not list a USB3 hub driver...
[20:21] <usb_less> yeah, that might be the case
[20:22] <usb_less> seem to recall having to compile an intel nic driver for it when i initially got the board
[20:22] <Walex> usb_less: 3.13 is a very recent kernel, should have everything
[20:22] <usb_less> yeah
[20:23] <usb_less> walex - what am i grepping the xorg log for?
[20:24] <Walex> usb_less: usually 'grep evdev'
[20:25] <usb_less> walesx - i can find stuff like - 4.098] (**) Power Button: Applying InputClass "evdev keyboard catchall"
[20:25] <usb_less> ok
[20:25] <Walex> usb_less: have you checked whether they are plugged into a USB3 socket?
[20:26] <usb_less> walex - http://paste.ubuntu.com/8428001/
[20:26] <usb_less> erm, usb sockets are blac, not blue so assuming usb2
[20:27] <Walex> usb_less: you should be seeing lines like "evdev: USB Keyboard: Device: "/dev/input/event10"
[20:28] <Walex> usb_less: also try 'grep "config/udev: Adding input device" | pastebinit'
[20:28] <usb_less> nah, i'm not seeing that walesx, only what i just posted on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:29] <usb_less> sorry, i meant walex
[20:29] <usb_less> ok walex, willdo
[20:29] <Walex> usb_less: if those don't happen then while 'udevadm monitor' shows that 'udev' recognizes the devices, they don't get passed to the X server
[20:30] <Walex> usb_less: you may have a non-standard 'xorg.conf' that disables 'udev' attachment of input devices, which used to be the default.
[20:32] <usb_less> walex - that last grep just kinda sat there - had to ctrl c it.......
[20:32] <usb_less> what file should i be grep'ing?
[20:34] <Walex> usb_less: also try 'grep "config/udev: Adding input device" /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit'
[20:34] <usb_less> walex - no doubt the xorg could be a bit iffy - as i usually use nvivia driver, but currently due to borked update, i think its prob running in vesa mode or something
[20:35] <usb_less> kk walex willdo- ty
[20:35] <Walex> usb_less: also 'dmesg | grep input: | tail -20 | pastebinit'
[20:35] <Walex> usb_less: then also 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit' to be sure
[20:36] <usb_less> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8428078/
[20:36] <Walex> usb_less: have you tried to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to go to a text console and see if either works there?
[20:36] <usb_less> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8428089/
[20:37] <usb_less> difficult to do when kbrds not working
[20:37] <Walex> usb_less: don't you have another keyboard? A PS2 keyboard?
[20:37] <usb_less> currently ssh'd into the box
[20:37] <Walex> usb_less: if you are logged in remotely, 'sudo chvt 01'
[20:37] <usb_less> erm, lemme look
[20:37] <usb_less> kk ty walex
[20:38] <Walex> usb_less: the 'grep' of the X log and the 'grep' of the 'dmesg' show zero keyboard and mouse, so it is unlikely that 'udevadm monitor' showed them
[20:39] <usb_less> yeah that got the box to drop to console - but keyboard didn't work
[20:40] <usb_less> let me see if this old ps2 kbrd works
[20:40] <Walex> usb_less: then try to find another keyboard and plug it in. Or another mouse.
[20:40] <Walex> usb_less: ideally actually not a PS/2 one as that will surely :-)
[20:40] <Walex> usb_less: ideally actually not a PS/2 one as that will surely :-) work
[20:41] <usb_less> yeah the ps2 one works fine
[20:42] <usb_less> walex - just tried an alternate usb kbrd - but still no joy
[20:43] <Walex> usb_less: on a USB socket as far away from the current one as possible? So it ends up on a different hub?
[20:43] <usb_less> ist ther a command line mouse utility i could test the usb mose with walex?
[20:43] <usb_less> okies lemme try that
[20:43] <Walex> usb_less: 'gpm'
[20:44] <usb_less> ty walex - just plugged alternate usb kbrd into back usb port on board - still no joy
[20:46] <TJ-> usb_less: Have you checked through the kernel log for possible USB controller/driver crashes/faults?
[20:46] <usb_less> walex - sudo gpm didn't seem to do much - is that because i'mm ssh'd in?
[20:46] <usb_less> no so far walex - but i will
[20:46]  * Setsu Back
[20:47] <Walex> usb_less: 'gpm' is a mouse server for the console
[20:48] <Walex> usb_less: grep usb /proc/interrupts | pastebinit
[20:48] <Walex> usb_less: do any other USB thingies work, like flash memory?
[20:48] <usb_less> not tried yet walex
[20:50] <usb_less> walex - doesn't look like there's any usb crash/faults in the kernal log
[20:50] <Walex> usb_less: weirder and weirder
[20:51] <Walex> usb_less: which motherboard is that?
[20:51] <usb_less> walex - its a gigabyte Z87X-UD4H
[20:52] <usb_less> though the bios is at v3 and i think their up to v9 now
[20:53] <Walex> usb_less: BTW doing a search for "Z87X-UD4H usb keyboard" shows a lot of similar cases
[20:54] <Walex> http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1796107
[20:54] <Walex> http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte/55506-ga-z87x-ud4h-usb-issues-frozen-mouse-keyboard-sticking-keys.html
[20:54] <Walex> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1721619/z87x-ud4h-motherboard-problems.html
[20:55] <Walex> http://forum.giga-byte.co.uk/index.php?topic=13640.0
[20:55] <usb_less> ah - interesting
[20:55] <usb_less> walex - was working fine - right up until i did the update
[20:55] <Walex> usb_less: it was working accidentally
[20:56] <usb_less> lol walex - you might have a point there
[20:57] <Walex> usb_less: I would suggest a BIOS upgrade (but one of the pages says version 7 does not help, so get a later one).
[20:58] <Walex> usb_less: also  changing the BIOS settings for USB might be worth trying. For example disabling entirely the USB3 chips.
[20:58] <usb_less> okies walex - i'll give that a go - TY so much for your help
[20:58] <usb_less> okies noted - also good advice i think walex
[20:58] <Walex> usb_less: it looks like an intermittent hw bug
[20:58] <usb_less> yeah, it certainly does
[20:58] <Guest37712> any clonezilla fellas
[20:58] <Walex> http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-devices/319855-gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud4h-intermittent-usb-failure-mouse-keyboard.html
[20:58] <lordievader> usb_less: Is there a usb legacy option in your bios?
[20:59] <Walex> lordievader: good point, another thing to try.
[20:59] <usb_less> yes walex there is
[20:59] <lordievader> usb_less: Is it enabled? I thought for my mobo that if I disable it usb keyboards stop functioning. Never properly tested it though.
[21:01] <usb_less> walex - let me check in the bios - afk a mo doing that
[21:02] <Guest37712> fellas!
[21:15] <TJ-> "Legacy USB" simply means the BIOS continues providing USB device HID services to the boot-loader and OS, unless they take over with their own device driver - which allows USB keyboards at boot-time, before OS is fully loaded.
[21:34] <usb_less> walex - if you're still there - i flashed the bios from v3 to v8 and set USB to legacy and no diff - athough i notice while the pc is booting up i can see it flash the kbrd light - most likely as it tries to start the x server - but then nada
[21:38] <jubo2> Hello and good FLGOSS devel appreciation day
[21:38] <jubo2> though that's been over for 38 minutes in Finlan timezone
[21:38] <jubo2> If it would be possible to get microphone monitoring mixed in with the karaoke signal it'd be teh awesome
[21:39] <jubo2> so far I've some ALSA stuff, some PulseAudio stuff and PAVUControl stuff, none of which I understand
[21:39] <jubo2> can't be complicated, works on Windows7 without major h4x0ring
[21:41] <jubo2> want to mix microphone with soundtrack. if have information you can find me here, dänks-plos
[23:57] <Torededer> Yo anybody here?
[23:59] <Torededer> I came to ask how to keep plasma desktop and kwin always running because they usually dont stay running for some reason :/ so i have not exit out buttons, no minimize buttons or anything! i cant even drag the window around