[11:04] <cmaloney> Morning
[11:11] <wolfger> morning
[11:12] <wolfger> mrgoodcat: how prolific is ubuntu-security-announce?
[11:13] <wolfger> rick_h_: zsh? :-p psh!
[11:14] <rick_h_> :P
[11:14] <cmaloney> psh -aw
[11:19] <wolfger> Ugh. Speaking of psh made me log in to Perl Monks for the first time in... forever. Couldn't remember my password, and now I remember why I quit going there. They are still e-mailing plain-text passwords when you forget them.
[11:19] <cmaloney> Yeah that place is like a museum
[11:20] <wolfger> Such a wonderful site full of wonderful people, and they can't bother to have a modicum of security.
[11:21] <cmaloney> They do, they just choose to undermine it. :)
[11:49] <wolfger> also: "psh -aw" would be a better pun if the -a flag was valid. :-p
[12:17] <cmaloney> Of course it would. :)
[12:34] <mrgoodcat> wolfger: like 1 or 2 a day
[12:40] <wolfger> I don't think having a bot toss out 1 or 2 security announcements a day would be a bad thing. Might even occasionally have some value. :-)
[12:49] <mrgoodcat> can't remember how to get rss from bookie.io
[12:50] <mrgoodcat> rick_h_: docs.bookie.io shows the "welcome to nginx" page
[12:50] <jrwren_> ps -haw # works!
[12:57] <mrgoodcat> jrwren_: works for what?
[13:07] <wolfger> fail
[13:08] <wolfger> mrgoodcat: he's attempting to resuscitate cmaloney's psh -aw pun
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> fail what?
[13:14] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Get some coffee. :)
[13:14] <mrgoodcat> i must need coffee....
[13:15] <mrgoodcat> i still don't know what the fail was...
[13:15] <cmaloney> wolfger mentioned psh as an alternative to bash
[13:15] <cmaloney> I said "psh -aw" (as in pshaw)
[13:16] <cmaloney> jrwren_ mentioned that ps -haw is valid
[13:16] <cmaloney> and now we have spent way too long on a silly joke. :)
[13:16] <mrgoodcat> yea i'm going to get coffee
[13:16] <wolfger> which I determined to be a fail, because he switched commands :-D
[13:17] <wolfger> too long, not funny enough, and on top of it all: had to be explained. :-p
[13:17] <cmaloney> https://bookie.io/craig/redirect/273994ed5e425a
[13:18] <cmaloney> https://www.jimmyjohns.com/datasecurityincident/ <- geez
[13:18] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/GMr3E7 - Data Security Incident
[13:19] <cmaloney> We can't get to chip and pin soon enough
[13:20] <wolfger> chip and pin?
[13:22] <cmaloney> yeah, the USA is the only one that uses magnetic stripe credit cards
[13:22] <cmaloney> which contain all of the information for the card on the card itself
[13:22] <cmaloney> chip and pin is like two-factor
[13:22] <cmaloney> (in a sense. Totally over-simplifying it)
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> yea. would be cool if your pin actually was the decryption key or something
[13:23] <cmaloney> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_and_PIN
[13:23] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/h7n9X - Chip and PIN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[13:28] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[13:28] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Paranoico by proyecto hombre
[13:28] <cmaloney> Black Sabbath's Paranoid, in Spanish
[13:29] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: If you need some metal language immersion LMK. Lots of CC-licensed metal in Spanish
[13:30] <wolfger> "Since 2008, VISA has been running pilot projects using the Emue card,[3] where the generated number replaces the code printed on the back of standard cards." Sign me up!
[13:31] <wolfger> Then about the only thing you have to worry about is actual physical card theft.
[13:34] <jrwren_> Is the chip in pin and chip a samrt card?
[13:34] <jrwren_> ya know the smart cards from 15yrs ago? They have super lower power low clock ARM cpus in them!
[13:38] <brousch_> cmaloney: Looks like they missed my jimmy johns
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> srsly... internet connected forks? http://www.hapi.com/product/hapifork
[13:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/p8o0Zi - HAPI.com : Enjoy Your Food with HAPIfork by Jacques L&eacute;pine
[13:45] <mrgoodcat> brousch_: they missed mine too :)
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> some good bug names recently
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> not sure if i like "heartbleed" or "shellshock" better
[14:47]  * jrwren shakes fist at comcast.
[15:46] <brousch_> Was someone here involved with KLUG?
[15:51] <cmaloney> The kalamazoo lug?
[15:51] <cmaloney> Not sure
[15:54] <mrgoodcat> i used to live in kzoo
[15:57] <brousch_> Maybe I'm thinking of mrgoodcat
[15:57] <mrgoodcat> :)
[16:13] <cmaloney> http://blog.intronis.com/bid/red-hat-declares-client-server-computing-era-over
[16:13] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/on1lt1 - Red Hat Declares Client-Server Computing Era Over
[16:13] <cmaloney> I find this a rather dumb statement
[16:14] <rick_h_> my web browser would like to disagree with that headline :P
[16:14] <cmaloney> "cloud" is still a server.
[16:16] <jrwren> cmaloney: yup. is n-server. its a very stupid statement. sell your RHAT shares. the CEO is crazy!
[16:17] <jrwren> also, why did they change from RHAT to RHT???
[16:17] <rick_h_> "Yo kids, I heard cloud was cool...we can do it!"
[16:25] <cmaloney> heh
[16:27] <cmaloney> i think it's also called "reframing the shit that you just finshed paying off so you'll want to spend money with us again"
[16:28] <cmaloney> That RHEL license? That's the old "client-server" model.
[16:28] <cmaloney> Here's our new Open-Stack cloud model, running RHEL
[16:28] <cmaloney> Instead of paying $120,000 a year you only pay us $12,000 a month.
[16:28] <cmaloney> er, $10,000 a month
[16:29] <cmaloney> SUCH A BARGAIN!
[16:35] <jrwren> remember, redhat owns ceph and jboss, so they need to spin themselves as a company that does those things, not just rhel
[16:45] <greg-g> here's a better headline:
[16:45] <greg-g> modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/
[16:45] <greg-g> http://modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/
[16:45] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/0tE2v0 - 403 Forbidden
[16:45] <greg-g> eh?
[16:46] <jrwren> WHAT?!?!
[16:47] <cmaloney> I'm gonna driunk me some IQ points tonight!
[16:47] <cmaloney> or is that IQ PINTS!
[16:47] <cmaloney> YEEEEAAAAAHHHHh!
[16:48] <jrwren> hahahahah
[16:54] <wolfger> Hey, it worked for me.... (for some value of "excessive")
[17:39] <mrgoodcat> cmaloney: i lied
[17:40] <mrgoodcat> my lit class is pre-civil war, not pre-colonial
[17:40] <rick_h_> oh, well that's a bit better
[17:40] <rick_h_> I was wondering how my literature there was pre-colonizatoin
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> lol
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> not much
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> lots of art tho
[17:41] <rick_h_>  /my/much
[17:41] <rick_h_> yea, true enough
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> a lot of the stories depicted are pre-colonial
[17:45] <cmaloney> That's only about 100 years of lit
[18:24] <jrwren> pre-civil war US lit? there can't be that much of it?
[18:24] <jrwren> or wait... Samuel Clemens is in that time period eh?
[18:39] <greg-g> yeah
[18:40] <greg-g> hence his satire on slavery
[18:45] <jrwren> yeah, duh, wtf was I thinking. :)
[18:45] <cmaloney> jrwren: Apparently not enough to keep from snubbing one of the US literary greats. :)
[18:46] <jrwren> He was even on ST:TNG!!!
[18:46] <cmaloney> many times
[18:46] <jrwren> heheheh
[18:48]  * greg-g grew up in Hannibal, MO
[18:49] <greg-g> over fourth of july weekend is "National Tom Sawyer Days" with fence painting, frog jumping, etc. Including a contest to crown the official Tom and Becky (7th graders) who become our town's ambassadors. The ones from my grade went to Japan for a week.
[18:51] <cmaloney> Nice
[18:51] <greg-g> the funny thing is, Samuel himself thought Huck Finn was a better book than Tom Sawyer
[18:52] <greg-g> (I agree, we had to read them both in middle school)
[18:52] <cmaloney> It was a more complicated story
[18:52] <cmaloney> similar to The Hobbit / Lord of the Rings
[18:52]  * greg-g nods
[19:18] <jrwren> i had to read them. I don't remember much about them.
[19:19] <jrwren> Huck was the 2nd one right? where Tom isn't around much and Huck runs away?
[19:19] <jrwren> I remember that one more.
[19:19] <jrwren> I couldn't tell you much of anything about Tom Sawyer
[19:24] <greg-g> yep
[19:28] <jrwren> something about getting kids to whitewash fences for free by convincing them its fun and collecting payment from the fence owner?
[19:33] <greg-g> being told to white wash your fence, but convincing friends that it's way fun and getting them to pay YOU to have the priviledge
[19:38] <jrwren> ha!