[11:04] Morning [11:11] morning [11:12] mrgoodcat: how prolific is ubuntu-security-announce? [11:13] rick_h_: zsh? :-p psh! [11:14] :P [11:14] psh -aw [11:19] Ugh. Speaking of psh made me log in to Perl Monks for the first time in... forever. Couldn't remember my password, and now I remember why I quit going there. They are still e-mailing plain-text passwords when you forget them. [11:19] Yeah that place is like a museum [11:20] Such a wonderful site full of wonderful people, and they can't bother to have a modicum of security. [11:21] They do, they just choose to undermine it. :) [11:49] also: "psh -aw" would be a better pun if the -a flag was valid. :-p [12:17] Of course it would. :) [12:34] wolfger: like 1 or 2 a day [12:40] I don't think having a bot toss out 1 or 2 security announcements a day would be a bad thing. Might even occasionally have some value. :-) [12:49] can't remember how to get rss from bookie.io [12:50] rick_h_: docs.bookie.io shows the "welcome to nginx" page [12:50] ps -haw # works! [12:57] jrwren_: works for what? [13:07] fail [13:08] mrgoodcat: he's attempting to resuscitate cmaloney's psh -aw pun [13:14] fail what? [13:14] mrgoodcat: Get some coffee. :) [13:14] i must need coffee.... [13:15] i still don't know what the fail was... [13:15] wolfger mentioned psh as an alternative to bash [13:15] I said "psh -aw" (as in pshaw) [13:16] jrwren_ mentioned that ps -haw is valid [13:16] and now we have spent way too long on a silly joke. :) [13:16] yea i'm going to get coffee [13:16] which I determined to be a fail, because he switched commands :-D [13:17] too long, not funny enough, and on top of it all: had to be explained. :-p [13:17] https://bookie.io/craig/redirect/273994ed5e425a [13:18] https://www.jimmyjohns.com/datasecurityincident/ <- geez [13:18] http://goo.gl/GMr3E7 - Data Security Incident [13:19] We can't get to chip and pin soon enough [13:20] chip and pin? [13:22] yeah, the USA is the only one that uses magnetic stripe credit cards [13:22] which contain all of the information for the card on the card itself [13:22] chip and pin is like two-factor [13:22] (in a sense. Totally over-simplifying it) [13:23] yea. would be cool if your pin actually was the decryption key or something [13:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_and_PIN [13:23] http://goo.gl/h7n9X - Chip and PIN - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [13:28] .np squeekyhoho [13:28] squeekyhoho's current track - Paranoico by proyecto hombre [13:28] Black Sabbath's Paranoid, in Spanish [13:29] mrgoodcat: If you need some metal language immersion LMK. Lots of CC-licensed metal in Spanish [13:30] "Since 2008, VISA has been running pilot projects using the Emue card,[3] where the generated number replaces the code printed on the back of standard cards." Sign me up! [13:31] Then about the only thing you have to worry about is actual physical card theft. [13:34] Is the chip in pin and chip a samrt card? [13:34] ya know the smart cards from 15yrs ago? They have super lower power low clock ARM cpus in them! [13:38] cmaloney: Looks like they missed my jimmy johns [13:45] srsly... internet connected forks? http://www.hapi.com/product/hapifork [13:45] http://goo.gl/p8o0Zi - HAPI.com : Enjoy Your Food with HAPIfork by Jacques Lépine [13:45] brousch_: they missed mine too :) [13:57] some good bug names recently [13:57] not sure if i like "heartbleed" or "shellshock" better [14:47] * jrwren shakes fist at comcast. [15:46] Was someone here involved with KLUG? [15:51] The kalamazoo lug? [15:51] Not sure [15:54] i used to live in kzoo [15:57] Maybe I'm thinking of mrgoodcat [15:57] :) [16:13] http://blog.intronis.com/bid/red-hat-declares-client-server-computing-era-over [16:13] http://goo.gl/on1lt1 - Red Hat Declares Client-Server Computing Era Over [16:13] I find this a rather dumb statement [16:14] my web browser would like to disagree with that headline :P [16:14] "cloud" is still a server. [16:16] cmaloney: yup. is n-server. its a very stupid statement. sell your RHAT shares. the CEO is crazy! [16:17] also, why did they change from RHAT to RHT??? [16:17] "Yo kids, I heard cloud was cool...we can do it!" [16:25] heh [16:27] i think it's also called "reframing the shit that you just finshed paying off so you'll want to spend money with us again" [16:28] That RHEL license? That's the old "client-server" model. [16:28] Here's our new Open-Stack cloud model, running RHEL [16:28] Instead of paying $120,000 a year you only pay us $12,000 a month. [16:28] er, $10,000 a month [16:29] SUCH A BARGAIN! [16:35] remember, redhat owns ceph and jboss, so they need to spin themselves as a company that does those things, not just rhel [16:45] here's a better headline: [16:45] modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/ [16:45] http://modernfarmer.com/2014/09/drinking-excessive-amounts-beer-will-make-kids-smarter-scientists-come-close-saying/ [16:45] http://goo.gl/0tE2v0 - 403 Forbidden [16:45] eh? [16:46] WHAT?!?! [16:47] I'm gonna driunk me some IQ points tonight! [16:47] or is that IQ PINTS! [16:47] YEEEEAAAAAHHHHh! [16:48] hahahahah [16:54] Hey, it worked for me.... (for some value of "excessive") [17:39] cmaloney: i lied [17:40] my lit class is pre-civil war, not pre-colonial [17:40] oh, well that's a bit better [17:40] I was wondering how my literature there was pre-colonizatoin [17:41] lol [17:41] not much [17:41] lots of art tho [17:41] /my/much [17:41] yea, true enough [17:41] a lot of the stories depicted are pre-colonial [17:45] That's only about 100 years of lit [18:24] pre-civil war US lit? there can't be that much of it? [18:24] or wait... Samuel Clemens is in that time period eh? [18:39] yeah [18:40] hence his satire on slavery [18:45] yeah, duh, wtf was I thinking. :) [18:45] jrwren: Apparently not enough to keep from snubbing one of the US literary greats. :) [18:46] He was even on ST:TNG!!! [18:46] many times [18:46] heheheh [18:48] * greg-g grew up in Hannibal, MO [18:49] over fourth of july weekend is "National Tom Sawyer Days" with fence painting, frog jumping, etc. Including a contest to crown the official Tom and Becky (7th graders) who become our town's ambassadors. The ones from my grade went to Japan for a week. [18:51] Nice [18:51] the funny thing is, Samuel himself thought Huck Finn was a better book than Tom Sawyer [18:52] (I agree, we had to read them both in middle school) [18:52] It was a more complicated story [18:52] similar to The Hobbit / Lord of the Rings [18:52] * greg-g nods [19:18] i had to read them. I don't remember much about them. [19:19] Huck was the 2nd one right? where Tom isn't around much and Huck runs away? [19:19] I remember that one more. [19:19] I couldn't tell you much of anything about Tom Sawyer [19:24] yep [19:28] something about getting kids to whitewash fences for free by convincing them its fun and collecting payment from the fence owner? [19:33] being told to white wash your fence, but convincing friends that it's way fun and getting them to pay YOU to have the priviledge [19:38] ha!