[00:01] <desti_T2> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[00:01] <desti_T2> don't forget to update
[00:04] <reisio> not over yet :) http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/671
[00:05] <tack> does anyone know of an application where i can monitor which applications are using the Internet?
[00:06] <daftykins> what's the end goal?
[00:06] <daftykins> tack: ^
[00:07] <tack> i want to see what is using my bandwith when im not actualy using the computer
[00:07]  * reisio disconnects from tack's computer
[00:07] <daftykins> tack: #networking might be of use, if you get nothing here
[00:08] <tack> that was my next stop, thank you for the help
[00:10] <Basketballl> i have 3 cronjob lines in sudo crontab -e but they dont work
[00:10] <Basketballl> it is supposed to sleep my pc for a certain amount of time but it doesnt
[00:10] <Basketballl> 0 0 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12 0,1,2,3,4 rtcwake -m mem -u -t $(date +\%s -d "tomorrow 06:00")
[00:10] <Basketballl> 0 7 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,11,12 1,2,3,4,5  rtcwake -m mem -u -t $(date +\%s -d "today 15:00")
[00:10] <Basketballl> 0 0 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,11,12,6,7 4,5,6 pm-suspend
[00:15] <alex____> I created a few partitions, and I guess it's too many, so now I have this unallocated disc space. How do I allocate it?
[00:17] <daftykins> alex____: share a pastebin / screenshot ?
[00:17] <alex____> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/DSZy50zs
[00:18] <daftykins> alex____: those aren't partitions :)
[00:19] <alex____> daftykins: what are they
[00:19] <eeee> alex____: mounted filesystems
[00:19] <eeee> alex____: sudo parted -l
[00:19] <daftykins> alex____: share "sudo parted -l" if...
[00:19]  * daftykins hands over to eeee :)
[00:20] <daftykins> (i'm oly fit for bed this evening! )
[00:20] <daftykins> *only
[00:20] <alex____> http://pastebin.com/3LryML4J
[00:21] <ICantCook> I have a Microsoft Cinema Pro webcam.  On windows, it works at 1080p with the microphone.  On linux, it doesn't get to 1080p and if I try to use the microphone, it won't work at all
[00:21] <pavlos> Basketballl, use absolute path, that is /usr/sbin/trcwake
[00:21] <ICantCook> I'm building a webrtc based app, and want a good webcam for testing in linux
[00:22] <Snake2k> http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/24/6840697/worse-than-heartbleed-todays-bash-bug-could-be-breaking-security-for
[00:22] <Snake2k> That sucks :|
[00:22] <ICantCook> can anyone suggest one?
[00:22] <somsip> Snake2k: already patched and released
[00:22] <ICantCook> I like the look of the Logitec C920 HD Pro
[00:22] <Snake2k> somsip: That's awesome! lol
[00:22] <Snake2k> somsip: So the bug just runs malicious code at shell start up? :|
[00:22] <eeee> alex____: you can use sudo cfdisk /dev/sda to allocate the remaining space at the end of the disk
[00:23] <somsip> Snake2k: no - read the advisory
[00:24] <alex____> eeee: It popped up some prompt. Not sure how to proceed.
[00:24] <Snake2k> somsip: The advisory?
[00:25] <eeee> alex____: what's the prompt?
[00:25] <alex____> eeee: just the cfdisk utility, I suppose
[00:25] <somsip> Snake2k: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/650
[00:25] <eeee> alex____: ok it should say you have free space on the bottom
[00:25] <Snake2k> somsip: Thanks!
[00:26] <alex____> It does
[00:26] <eeee> alex____: go there, and press new
[00:26] <daftykins> ICantCook: can't be sure on specifics, but look for ones that speak of UVC compatibility
[00:26] <ICantCook> Yeah, this M$ one does have UVC compatibility
[00:27] <ICantCook> there's a driver bug whereby the camera requests 100% of the USB controller's BW
[00:27] <alex____> eeee they show as unusable
[00:27] <daftykins> ICantCook: nasty.
[00:27] <ICantCook> so running the Mic at the same time fails :(
[00:27] <eeee> alex____: why so?
[00:27] <ICantCook> yeah
[00:27] <alex____> eeee: I think it's because I've exceeded the maximum partition count or something
[00:28] <docmur> I have a ubuntu 14.04 server and for some reason when clients are coming into the network via wirless the routers and wireless access points will occasionally assign the gateway of the network to be the ip address of the server, which is wrong.
[00:28] <eeee> alex____: oh ok, that might make sense, i think you're allowed 4 primaries
[00:29] <eeee> alex____: what partition are you trying to make?
[00:29] <eeee> alex____: you could extend the ext4 partition if you want
[00:29] <alex____> eeee: how?
[00:29] <aum> how do I get ember to load component templates from a compiled handlebars file, instead of having to put the component template inside index.html?
[00:30] <usr13> docmur: You mean inodes?
[00:30]  * Duckgoose is cooler than everyone else
[00:31] <docmur> no, as in if my laptop connects to the wireless in my condo, sometimes the gateway will random be the IP address of the server and not the router, but most of the time it's correct
[00:31] <usr13> docmur: Sorry wrong nic...  But to your issue, check to see that you only have one DHCP server running on your network.
[00:31] <aPices> ^
[00:31] <eeee> alex____: looking into it, hold on
[00:32] <usr13> docmur: (Sounds a lot like two competing DHCP servers.)
[00:32] <Ladon> can I edit files on my remote server via apps like leafpad or pluma w/ sudo?
[00:33] <docmur> hmm well I know I didn't install any DHCP server on my server after the fact and I don't see any DHCP server listed in /etc/init.d
[00:33] <usr13> docmur: Check your server and make sure it does not have a DHCP server running.
[00:34] <eeee> alex____: exit cfdisk
[00:34] <alex____> eeee: ok
[00:34] <docmur> well I know isc-dhcp-server isn't running or install and under /etc/dhcp I only have dhclient
[00:35] <docmur> Nope, no dhcp server installed
[00:35] <docmur> or running
[00:36] <eeee> alex____: sudo resize2fs /dev/sda4
[00:36] <eeee> alex____: if you want to unmount it first it's probably better
[00:36] <alex____> The filesystem is already 7529216 blocks long.  Nothing to do!
[00:36] <usr13> docmur: If this information is coming from a DHCP server, then chack some other PC on your network. (I'm assuming that these clients are getting bogus IP information from a DHCP server, which is to also assume these clients that have the wrong default gw route are set to DHCP).
[00:37] <docmur> Well I just confirmed the only one running is sitting on the router for the house, which the server is connected to
[00:37] <aPices> docmur: I would fire up a packet capture to see whats going on
[00:37] <aPices> wireshark or tcpdump
[00:38] <docmur> thats not a bad idea!
[00:38] <alex____> eeee: The filesystem is already 7529216 blocks long.  Nothing to do!
[00:38] <eeee> alex____: ok, hold on
[00:41] <aPices> once you get a pcap going, I would send out dhcp requests from multiple sources and see what offers you get
[00:45] <StolenToast> hey, I'm trying to do an apt-get upgrade but I receive a million errors telling me that the /tmp partition is full
[00:45] <StolenToast> it is indeed full but it's also only 1mb
[00:45] <aPices> df -h
[00:46] <StolenToast> so if I clear it out I get the same errors
[00:46] <StolenToast> cuz it just fills up immediately
[00:46] <StolenToast> yeah that's what I'm using to inspect the disk space
[00:46] <aPices> wow, 1mb tmp
[00:46] <mulga|> can anyone tell me if uses G/PGP? looking for his public key if he has one. Need to send him an email. would prefer to use encryption if possible.
[00:47] <saiarcot895> That's a bit of a problem
[00:47] <aPices> did you just partition it
[00:47] <mulg> *I mean for Evan
[00:47] <StolenToast> no I haven't touched it since th eserver was set up
[00:47] <StolenToast> never had this problem before
[00:47] <aPices> maybe put a M instead of G in GB
[00:47] <StolenToast> overflow                         1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp
[00:47] <StolenToast> I don't remember if it used to be larger
[00:48] <StolenToast> tmpfs                            201M  1.3M  199M   1% /run
[00:48] <StolenToast> overflow                         1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp
[00:48] <eeee> alex____: is your data on /home backed up:
[00:48] <eeee> *backed up ?
[00:48] <pobri19> Hi guys, I'm on a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm having a weird issue when I put stuff on my desktop. I can't see the stuff on either of my monitors on the desktop, but it's there somewhere (it's in the Desktop folder), it's like theres a section of my desktop that is invisible... Any ideas?
[00:49] <aPices> find an area with space and mount part of it to tmp
[00:49] <alex____> eeee: no backups
[00:49] <StolenToast> mount part of it?
[00:49] <StolenToast> do I have to repartition?
[00:49] <aPices> no
[00:50] <aPices> well yeah im just thinking of a bandaid at this point. you need to repartition it really
[00:50] <StolenToast>  /dev has almost a gig free
[00:51] <StolenToast> this sounds like it's gonna be painful
[00:51] <eeee> alex____: i think you need to delete the partition, and recreate it, the data should be left in tact
[00:52] <saiarcot895> mulg: You might want to use an online PGP key searcher and search by email address, but the best way is to directly ask the person himself, so that you don't encrypt it to the wrong person.
[00:52] <saiarcot895> mulg: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/ might help.
[00:52] <aPices> i think you may get away with creating a tmp folder on that partition and mounting it
[00:53] <aPices> see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[00:53] <aPices> USB would be a viable option
[00:53] <alex____> eeee: how certain are you that it'll be intact?
[00:53] <StolenToast> it's a vps
[00:53] <aPices> IF its tmp
[00:53] <eeee> daftykins: are you still there?
[00:53] <aPices> system sounds messed up
[00:53] <StolenToast> yeah, I'm gonna submit a ticket
[00:53] <eeee> alex____: i'm pretty certain, but i've never tried it before
[00:54] <aPices> i would
[00:54] <StolenToast> I think I'd probably just mess it up more
[00:54] <daftykins> eeee: vaguely sir yep
[00:54] <StolenToast> luckily I got the new bash before this happened
[00:54] <aPices> well could be good practice
[00:54] <StolenToast> one more question though, is there any situation in which a reboot might change that?
[00:54] <eeee> daftykins: if alex____ deletes his partition, and recreates it with a bigger size, the data should be left in tact right?
[00:54] <aPices> not that i can think of
[00:55] <StolenToast> my term is giving me a rotating arrow symbol which means to me that it wants a restart
[00:55] <aPices> maybe in a situation where you chrooted
[00:55] <jdecuirm_> Hi all! is there any way to change the spell checker here in Kubuntu? i mean, i have Kubuntu distro 14.04 in english, but i mostly write in spanish
[00:55] <aPices> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[00:55] <daftykins> eeee: ooh-err i don't think so no, it might reposition superblocks and so on
[00:56] <tonyt> if you delete a partition and recreate it, no data is going to be left in tact. anyone that tells you different has been smoking crack lol
[00:56] <eeee> tonyt: http://geekpeek.net/resize-filesystem-fdisk-resize2fs/
[00:56] <eeee> tonyt: 3-4 pages i read recommended doing so to resize a partition
[00:56] <eeee> daftykins: thanks, i guess it's a no then
 thanks. yep tried searching keyservers already to no avail, and unfortunately he seems to be indisposed as haven't heard from him in some time.
[00:57] <alex____> Okay, so I'll need to backup.
[00:57] <tonyt> ok that says resise, not delete a partition. my previos comment still stands
[00:57] <alex____> Thanks, all.
[00:57] <aPices> it sounds like his system was recently provisioned and might have messed up somewhere during the process
[00:57] <eeee> tonyt: did you read it? the procedure is to delete the partition, and then recreate it ( to resize it )
[00:57] <tonyt> you delete a partition you are going to lose the data. i dont care if your in windows or linux
[00:57] <mulg> PS sorry i just realised i posted this in the wrong #chan too
[00:58] <tonyt> delete and resize are 2 different things
[00:58] <aPices> StolenToast: is there anything you need backed up
[00:58] <aPices> data you need
[00:58] <eeee> tonyt: you obviously don't know anything about partitions, they are just pointers to the data, not the data themselves
[00:58] <aPices> if not just submit a ticket
[00:58] <StolenToast> aPices: there is nothing irreplaceable on this server, all code and projects are VCed
[00:58] <tonyt> but if you guys are telling someone that the data will be left intact if they delete is and recreate it, then i guess they will find out the hardway
[00:58] <StolenToast> but I would lose a lot of work ,_,
[00:58] <aPices> scp
[00:59] <aPices> backup now
[00:59] <aPices> !!!!
[00:59] <StolenToast> can I scp like a whole partition?
[00:59] <StolenToast> all of /home?
[00:59] <aPices> yes
[00:59] <aPices> ive done it before
[00:59] <aPices> it sux
[00:59] <aPices> but work is work
[00:59] <tonyt> backup what ever is on the partition, then yes. you can delete it and then recreate it. if you didnt back it up, then your screwed. data will be gone
[00:59] <Krixvar> StolenToast: you'd probably want to do something other than scp if you're doing an entire partition, afaik scp is more for files and folders
[00:59] <StolenToast> like rsync?
[01:00] <aPices> yes
[01:00] <StolenToast> the man page for rsync is... complex
[01:00] <StolenToast> do you know what the command to simply copy every file and folder, preserving attributes would be?
[01:00] <StolenToast> and links too
[01:01] <eeee> tonyt: this is basically what my googling found out The resize2fs program does not manipulate the size of partitions. If you wish to enlarge a filesystem, you must make sure you can expand the size of the underlying partition first. This can be done using fdisk(8) by deleting the partition and recreating it with a larger size
[01:01] <eeee> tonyt: source http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[01:02] <tonyt> ok. im not going to argue. if they say say it can be done, fine. dont say i didnt say so
[01:02] <eeee> tonyt: if you delete a partition you're only deleting the map of the data, you can recreate the it, and the data is still there,
[01:02] <Krixvar> eeee: not to be annoying, but where can I learn more about what you said about partitions being pointers and not the data themselves?
[01:02] <tonyt> k
[01:02] <Krixvar> eeee: just curious about that kinda thing :)
[01:02] <aPices> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/rsync-command-examples/
[01:02] <aPices> example 4
[01:03] <aPices> Example 9. View the rsync Progress during Transfer may keep your sanity
[01:03] <bonobomapper> anyone here knows how to properly make a "WPS Office" translation work? I've already installed it, but it doesn't seems to activate...
[01:04] <eeee> Krixvar: i've not read it anywhere, a guy called TJ- here once told me about it,
[01:04] <StolenToast> thanks aPices
[01:04] <aPices> anytime
[01:04] <Krixvar> eeee: interesting, I'll look around sometime... or suppose I'll hopefully learn about it in computer engineering classes haha
[01:04] <eeee> Krixvar: hehe
[01:05] <usr13> docmur: Still there?
[01:07] <Starthunder> I think I found a bug involving caps lock and `tty`s.
[01:08] <StolenToast> I thought partitions were logical mappings too
[01:08] <StolenToast> and could be changed independant of the data on the disk
[01:08] <StolenToast> not that that seems like a good idea in any circumstance
[01:09] <eeee> StolenToast: yeah if he hasn't backed up stuff, wouldn't do it
[01:09] <Starthunder> If I start in tty1 with caps lock off, then switch to tty2 and press the caps lock key, the light on the key turns on and typing generates capital letters. But if I then switch back to tty1, the light remains on, but typing generates lowercase letters.
[01:09] <Starthunder> If I then press the key again, the light turns off, but typing generates capital letters.
[01:10] <Galium> I am familiar with the differences between a 32 bit and 64 bit CPU.  I was wondering if it would be possible to create a set of conditions where one could simulate a 64 bit program on a 32 bit cpu?  The ultimate goal would be to get 64 bit programs running on a 32 bit cpu.
[01:10] <StolenToast> sounds like caps-lock is tracked by the tty
[01:10] <StolenToast> but the light is tracked by your keyboard
[01:10] <Starthunder> Doesn't the system control keyboard lights?
[01:10] <Starthunder> The OS, I mean.
[01:10] <StolenToast> Galium: yes, some 32bit CPUs even "emulate" 64bit
[01:10] <Starthunder> Kernel or whatever. /Something/ on a software level.
[01:11]  * aPices will brb
[01:11] <StolenToast> the BIOS has dominion over the numlock and those buttons
[01:11] <StolenToast> but I don't think capslock is in that group
[01:11] <StolenToast> like I don't think the light actually reflects the state of capslock on teh machine
[01:12] <Krixvar> eeee: StolenToast: in case you guys were interested a friend pointed me to this snippet on wikipedia -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Partition_recovery
[01:12] <Krixvar> the partition recovery section if it doesn't go there automatically
[01:12] <Starthunder> I don't have this issue with number lock.
[01:13] <StolenToast> thanks Krixvar
[01:13] <usr13> docmur: Still there?
[01:13] <Krixvar> no problem, just found it kinda interesting :)
[01:13] <Starthunder> Start in tty with numlock off, switch to tty2 and press the numlock key, numlock is on, switch back to tty1, numlock is still on.
[01:13] <Starthunder> Can I just reconfigure something to make capslock similarly global?
[01:14] <usr13> docmur: I was looking for a way to scan for dhcp servers on a network, (to see if there are more than one).  I came up with a way to do it.
[01:14] <usr13> sudo nmap -sU -p 67 192.168.1.0/24 |grep -b3 open
[01:14] <eeee> Krixvar: thanks
[01:14] <Krixvar> np
[01:14] <usr13> docmur: (Where 192.168.1.0/24 is really your network.)
[01:20] <StolenToast> Starthunder: yeah that's what I mean, your stdin is processed with respect to numlock before it even reaches the terminal
[01:20] <StolenToast> but capslock is heavily influenced by software
[01:20] <StolenToast> I've run into similar capslock issues on windows
[01:20] <StolenToast> <long explanation coming>
[01:21] <StolenToast> SO I set up autohotkey to turn capslock into a second left-ctrl key
[01:21] <StolenToast> great for games
[01:21] <StolenToast> when I hit capslock the light does not turn on, so my keyboard (ducky shine 2) must get it's capslock state from windows
[01:22] <StolenToast> but in some games if I hit capslock it works like normal
[01:22] <StolenToast> however, the light does not change
[01:22] <StolenToast> so it will fall out of sync with the real capslock state
[01:22] <StolenToast> I believe this happens when a game hooks raw input
[01:23] <StolenToast> so yeah there might be a setting to preserve CL across tys
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[01:25]  * StolenToast coughs
[01:25] <jdecuirm_> Is there any way to equalize the sound in kubuntu? it sounds like overloaded or dirty
[01:29]  * aPices is back
[01:29] <aPices> does kubuntu use alsa
[01:29] <aPices> or pulse
[01:29] <aPices> try alsa_mixer
[01:32] <saiarcot895> aPices: Pulseaudio, I think
[01:32] <aPices> ah
[01:33] <usr13> aPices: Both
[01:33] <aPices> yep
[01:33] <jdecuirm_> pulse audio?
[01:33] <aPices> just found that
[01:33] <aPices> run alsamixer
[01:33] <aPices> fix master
[01:34] <jdecuirm_> D.
[01:34] <jdecuirm_> D:
[01:34] <usr13> pulseaudio runs ontop of alsa, (it is a sound server on top of another sound server (alsa)
[01:35] <aPices> g2k
[01:35] <aPices> i always seem to fix sound issues with alsa-utils
[01:35] <jdecuirm_> I'm so novice here in kubuntu lol
[01:36] <glitch256> jdecuirm_:   do you have more than one desktop installed
[01:37] <shay_shay_> question: in deb-src line is there any way to track "testing" or "unstable" ? or will I have to manually change it every time a new version of ubuntu is out
[01:37] <jdecuirm_> No, i'm only using kde if that what you mean glitch256!
[01:38] <jdecuirm_> but my speakers kinda sound overloaded
[01:39] <glitch256> ok are they built in aka laptop ( sorry if you already coverd this  but i just came in )
[01:40] <aPices> here ya go
[01:40] <aPices> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[01:40] <aPices> i would just try turning down the master first
[01:41] <aPices> run alsamixer to do that
[01:41] <aPices> from the terminal
[01:41] <jdecuirm_> thanks aPices
[01:41] <aPices> np
[01:41] <jdecuirm_> all of this should work with kde right?
[01:41] <aPices> should
[01:41] <aPices> yes
[01:43] <aPices> can you run alsamixer?
[01:44] <eeee> alex____: are you still there?
[01:44]  * aPices will brb... again
[01:45] <delinquentme> say I have a brand new instance of ubuntu ... and I want to install git ... TYPICALLY I need to $ apt-get update .. before doing this ... however that installs a ton of other stuff ... is there a way to ONLY get the packages I need to install git ?
[01:45] <jdecuirm_> i'm scared xd
[01:45] <jdecuirm_> i can blow my sound xd
[01:45] <glitch256> delinquentme:  yes "apt-get install git"
[01:46] <akurilin> question: say my main drive is accumulating logs pretty fast and I'd like to save them to a different folder on a different drive that has a lot more room on it. Is the easiest way to just symlink that folder to that drive without having to change configs anywhere?
[01:48] <glitch256> akurilin:  yes i have done that  works well till you do an update or upgrade
[01:49] <akurilin> glitch256: let's say I add this to my configuration management, so it's now applied every time?
[01:50] <glitch256> akurilin:  i did not get that involved  but if it breaks  make sure you have a back up of the original
[01:53] <erp2themaxx> delinquentme: "apt-get update" doesn't install anything, it only resynchronizes the package index files from their sources.
[02:05] <advx_> Hi All, Good Morning, Have A Great Day....
[02:08] <cyberpolice_> how do iuninstall chrome
[02:08] <cyberpolice_> its not inside ubuntu software center
[02:08] <advx_> can try console...
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> sudo apt-get remove chrome ? I normally hit tab a bunch after guessing
[02:08] <eeee> cyberpolice_: how did you install it?
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> maybe apt-get remove google-chrome
[02:08] <cyberpolice_> i went to the website for chrome and it downloaded a deb file and i think ubuntu sofatere cneter opened and installed it
[02:09] <SchrodingersScat> cyberpolice_: k, I think you have a package named google-chrome
[02:10] <SchrodingersScat> cyberpolice_: from there it's your choice, synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, etc.
[02:10] <cyberpolice_> ok
[02:10] <cyberpolice_> anyone got netflix to work
[02:10] <cyberpolice_> i tried 64 bit chrome but it didnt work
[02:10] <eeee> cyberpolice_: type dpkg -l | grep google*
[02:10] <cyberpolice_> i followed http://www.pcworld.com/article/2687243/netflix-on-linux-how-to-get-it-today-and-why-its-such-a-pain.html
[02:10] <SchrodingersScat> I've only heard stories, I think you need the Beta chrome, then something else...
[02:10] <dw1> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/bug-in-bash-shell-creates-big-security-hole-on-anything-with-nix-in-it/
[02:10] <dw1> im getting vulnerable on 14.04 desktop & server
[02:10] <dw1> sup
[02:11] <cyberpolice_> well am gettign unexpected error when i go to netflix to play on chrome + nss 3.17 + user agent spoofed
[02:11] <cyberpolice_> so i uninstalled chrome 64 bit, but 32 bit says wrong architechture
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> dw1: did you update today?
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> dw1: because I updated this machine today, and it gives the error which implies that it is not vulnerable, and then on a desktop I haven't updated today it says vulnerable.
[02:12] <dw1> SchrodingersScat: apt-get dist-upgrade .. nothing
[02:12] <rww> dw1: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> dw1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:12] <SchrodingersScat> either or
[02:13] <Bashing-om> dw1: The patch is in effec for bash, just -> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade <- to get it . ^^^
[02:13] <rww> the version you want is 4.3-7ubuntu1.1, and you'll need to close and re-open any running bash instances, obviously
[02:13] <dw1> oh yeah its getting it
[02:13] <dw1> cool thx
[02:13] <dragondude> im having an issue im kinda sorta new to ubuntu and im having trouble getting ubuntu to out install a capture device driver i basically plugged a new one into a different usb port it does have drivers im just having trouble figuring out how to tell ubuntu hey i plugged a new capture device in
[02:13] <reisio> cyberpolice_: pcworld, really?
[02:13] <reisio> that's a windows rag
[02:15] <dragondude> when i run the command it says i don't have the firmware and i have no idea how to actually make that work it's a easycap dc60+ generic smi grabber
[02:22] <cyberpolice_> i got it. netflix working
[02:22] <reisio> cyberpolice_: gj
[02:22] <cyberpolice_> 3000 kbps
[02:23] <peterrooney> cyberpolice_: do share how.
[02:23] <cyberpolice_> peterrooney: http://itsfoss.com/watch-netflix-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:24] <cyberpolice_> i restart chrome i guess.. i dunno
[02:24] <cyberpolice_> not sure why it started working
[02:25] <reisio> what an awful site
[02:26] <cyberpolice_> at least the commands are legit
[02:28] <reisio> same as the other million blogs you visited
[02:29] <cyberpolice_> huzzah netflix works
[02:29] <cyberpolice_> you wanna celebrate??
[02:29] <samthewildone> Is it possible to install ubuntu without all the included installed applications ?
[02:30] <cyberpolice_> now i got to see why it wont go over 3000 kbps, 1280x720
[02:30] <samthewildone> I noticed there are a bucket load of applications that I do not need.
[02:30] <samthewildone> Better yet, is there a way I can just install with gnome fallback ?
[02:30] <advx_> bye 4 now..
[02:31] <Py33> Kernel panic at boot: not syncing. No init found
[02:31] <Py33> any ideas?
[02:31] <spearhead> samthewildone, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:31] <Basketballl> who pinged me i cant see the message
[02:31] <pavlos> Basketballl, use absolute path, that is /usr/sbin/trcwake
[02:32] <Basketballl> instead of what
[02:32] <Basketballl> like how do i use that
[02:32] <pavlos> Basketballl, instead of relative, like you have in your crontab
[02:33] <Basketballl> pavlos,  like if the line is  0 0 * 1,3,4,5,8,9,10,11,12 0,1,2,3,4 rtcwake -m mem -u -t $(date +\%s -d "tomorrow 06:00")
[02:33] <Basketballl> then how do i change it
[02:33] <pavlos> Basketballl, you can edit your crontab
[02:33] <Basketballl> so instead of rtcwake you put /usr/sbin/trcwake
[02:34] <pavlos> Basketballl, yes
[02:34] <Basketballl> is the t supposed to be there
[02:35] <deckard__> hello. Should i reboot Ubuntu after updates, evenif it doesnt ask me to?
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> deckard__: should really only need to reboot after kernel updates
[02:35] <pavlos> Basketballl, look at the man page of rtcwake
[02:35] <deckard__> SchrodingersScat, okay thanks
[02:35] <reisio> and even then you can set it up so you don't have to
[02:36] <Basketballl> pavlos,  part of the problem may be that i dont have that folder
[02:36] <SchrodingersScat> reisio: ksplice?
[02:36] <sergio-br2> http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/09/bug-in-bash-shell-creates-big-security-hole-on-anything-with-nix-in-it/
[02:36] <sergio-br2> "Bug in Bash shell creates big security hole on anything with *nix in it"
[02:36] <SchrodingersScat> sergio-br2: already not a problem
[02:36] <sergio-br2> dunno
[02:37] <Basketballl> bash: cd: /usr/sbin/rtcwake: Not a directory
[02:37] <pavlos> Basketballl, if you type locate rtcwake, you should have /usr/sbin/rtcwake (earlier I typed rtcwake wrong)
[02:37] <reisio> sergio-br2: what an incorrect headline :)
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> sergio-br2: well, not a problem for ubuntu now, the rest is questionable, my toaster is suspicious
[02:37] <pavlos> Basketballl, there is a dir /usr/sbin/ In there you will find rtcwake
[02:37] <sergio-br2> really dunno
[02:38] <sergio-br2> if it is, or don't
[02:38] <SchrodingersScat> sergio-br2: moot point, fixed here and this is ubuntu support
[02:38] <sergio-br2> ah, only spread the info
[02:38] <sergio-br2> to who use *nix
[02:38] <Basketballl> pavlos,  question if there is extra spaces does that matter
[02:39] <reisio> actually it's probably still not fixed :p
[02:39] <pavlos> Basketballl, spaces as in the parameters of the command? ... no
[02:39] <devboard> i need a help
[02:40] <reisio> env X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo echo vuln"; [[ "$(cat echo)" == "vuln" ]] && echo "still vulnerable"
[02:44] <pavlos> reisio, I get error importing function ... but still says vulnerable
[02:44] <samthewildone> spearhead, I need some help with java plugin via chrome.
[02:44] <jeffreylevesque> how do i check what version update i have on ubuntu?
[02:45] <samthewildone> uname -a
[02:45] <samthewildone> wait wrong
[02:45] <spearhead> samthewildone, hmmm, I don't really have experience with java plugins and I haven't used chrome in quite a while... not sure I can help but go ahead and ask and see if someone else can help
[02:45] <reisio> pavlos: yup
[02:45] <reisio> on the upside, script kiddies are probably still busy with the original problem
[02:46] <eeee> am i missing something? i just updated, and the bash bug is still there , installed bash is 4.3-7
[02:47] <Nautilus> does anyone have a pointer to a test of the bash vuln so I can do a before/after?
[02:47] <somsip> Nautilus: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[02:47] <eeee> Nautilus: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[02:48] <eeee> Nautilus: if it says vulnerable, then it still is
[02:48] <Nautilus> I actually used that one, the before showed vulnerable...
[02:48] <eeee> somsip: i've updated, it still works though
[02:48] <Nautilus> now I get an error and warning from bash, then the test message. I think that means it's good to go?
[02:48] <jeffreylevesque> anyone know how to check the last time the OS was updated?
[02:48] <pavlos> my bash --version is 4.3.11(1) after the update
[02:48] <somsip> eeee: fine on everything I've updated since about 16:30UTC. Same version, but package is as here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[02:49] <spearhead> eeee, I just updated and mine passes now... what version of bash did you update to?
[02:49] <jeffreylevesque> i have ubuntu server 14.04 and it randomly freezes.  started happening the last time i updated the os
[02:49] <somsip> Nautilus: warning is good. just echo is bad
[02:49] <reisio> the original vulnerability and patch was not all there was to it, unfortunately
[02:49] <somsip> reisio: really - link?
[02:49] <reisio> if you're concerned about it, you need to keep watching
[02:49] <reisio> somsip: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/672
[02:49] <eeee> spearhead: 4.3.11(1)-release
[02:50] <Nautilus> somsip: cool, just wanted to check.  The warning is ignoring function definition attemp (for x)
[02:50] <somsip> reisio: ah - so the patch does not cover everything. Bum :(
[02:50] <mikevp> I've been seeing the freeze, too.  Seems to be the window manager -- I can ctl-shift-f1 to full screen, login fine, nothing seems to be happening, but the gui is frozen.
[02:50] <mikevp> I killed thunderbird and firefox, but their windows remained.
[02:51] <reisio> somsip: yeah
[02:51] <reisio> still not worried about it
[02:51] <somsip> someone: really chuffed with myself having all servers patched witin 30 mins of patch being released. Back to square one...
[02:53] <spearhead> eeee, hmmm same as I have... so you run env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" and it prints vulnerable then this is a test
[02:53] <eeee> yeah
[02:54] <eeee> $ echo $BASH_VERSION
[02:54] <eeee> 4.3.11(1)-release
[02:54] <eeee> e@e:~$ env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[02:54] <eeee> vulnerable
[02:54] <eeee> this is a test
[02:54] <reisio> bash maintainer said he's got a fix already
[02:55] <spearhead> did you try restarting your terminal?
[02:55] <reisio> CVE-2014-3659
[02:55] <eeee> spearhead: yup
[02:56] <reisio> whoops, CVE-2014-7169
[02:58] <Starthunder> Hmm. That was weird.
[02:58] <Starthunder> In all my messing around with capslock…
[02:59] <Nautilus> hm, I ended up with 4.2.25(1)-release
[03:00] <Starthunder> All of the `tty`s acted as if I were holding down control-at when capslock was off.
[03:01] <Nautilus> Starthunder: I've seen a stuck button or (hardware) error do that
[03:01] <Nautilus> hardware = keyboard itself
[03:01] <Nautilus> I think your caps-lock was stuck
[03:06] <SDr> hi guys, where can I get my hands on bash's recent vuln fix?
[03:07] <Nautilus> SDr: looks like there's a newer one in the works.  I think this is an appropriate way to update though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades
[03:07] <felty> yo
[03:08] <somsip> felty: so what will it be today then?
[03:08] <felty> somsip:Hello sonsip!
[03:09] <spearhead> eeee, this is what I get http://pastebin.com/rvXWKj8f
[03:09] <spearhead> except for some reason the quotes got stripped...
[03:11] <spearhead> http://pastebin.com/5Ra7R5Wv there thats better
[03:13] <somsip> !10.10
[03:21] <eeee> spearhead: weird how it still works here
[03:23] <reisio> eeee: it prints vulnerable?
[03:24] <eeee> reisio: yeah
[03:25] <reisio> so upgrade :)
[03:25] <eeee> reisio: i did, i'm using 4.3.11(1)-release
[03:25] <reisio> I'm not sure the version is as important as the patches applied
[03:26] <eeee> i updated via dist-upgrade
[03:26] <somsip> eeee: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash
[03:26] <eeee> am i missing something?
[03:26] <spearhead> i have 4.3.11(1)-release and it patched it for me...
[03:26] <eeee> check apt-cache policy for me
[03:26] <reisio> wouldn't surprise me if there is no version bump for an added patch
[03:27] <eeee> mine is
[03:27] <eeee> bash:
[03:27] <eeee>   Installed: 4.3-7ubuntu1
[03:27] <eeee>   Candidate: 4.3-7ubuntu1
[03:27] <reisio> but I don't know how ubuntu packaging works
[03:27] <somsip> eeee: should be 4.3-7ubuntu1.1
[03:27] <spearhead> eeee, did you run apt-get update before you upgraded?
[03:27] <eeee> yeah, like an hour ago i guess
[03:27] <eeee> running it again now
[03:28] <somsip> eeee: if you do that comand I gave you, it'll either update you, or tell you you have the current version
[03:29] <eeee> waiting for apt-get update
[03:31] <spearhead> I wish that apt-get install -V bash would give you the version of bash installed rather than just saying it is the newest version
[03:31] <bkrj> so... when's an bash update coming in for 12.04?
[03:31] <eeee> somsip: ok, all patched up :)
[03:31] <spearhead> !12.04
[03:31] <yenic> is there any reason to use ubuntu then install xfce, or better to just use xubuntu?
[03:31] <somsip> eeee: jolly good
[03:32] <spearhead> bkrj, i believe it is already out...
[03:32] <somsip> bkrj: it's out. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash
[03:32] <bkrj> spearhead, weird, i don't get anything from update nor dist-upgrade
[03:33] <spearhead> bkrj, yep the patched version is 4.2-2ubuntu2.2
[03:33] <bkrj> says, bash is already the newest version
[03:33] <bkrj> oh ok, so unpatched would be 4.2-2ubuntu2.1 or something?
[03:34] <spearhead> or something... maybe just 4.2-2ubuntu2 ..... I don't know
[03:34] <somsip> bkrj: yes http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[03:34] <bkrj> right. i read that as, "these versions are vuln". stupid me
[03:35] <reisio> also keep an eye out for CVE-2014-7169
[03:35] <bkrj> auto upgrades, ftw :-)
[03:41] <Onek> what's new ?
[03:41] <reisio> stuff, things
[03:42] <BuntuTech> good evening ubuntu channel
[03:42] <spearhead> Onek, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ in case you haven't heard
[03:42] <reisio> evening
[03:47] <BuntuTech> i got hit with a ctcp what is that
[03:51] <reisio> BuntuTech: /ctcp reisio version
[03:52] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-to-client_protocol
[03:52] <samthewildone> ok so I'm doing startx after gnome-session install and i get a black screen.
[03:52] <samthewildone> this is after a minimal install ...
[03:52] <samthewildone> I also installed the xserver
[03:53] <brent2> why not just start a display manager
[03:53] <brent2> like lightdm
[03:53] <brent2> ?
[03:53] <brent2> or gdm
[03:53] <reisio> samthewildone: so you actually have the executable 'gnone-session'?
[03:53] <samthewildone> err
[03:53] <brent2> why are you doing minimal install if you don't know how to actually make it work
[03:53] <samthewildone> I just did, yum install gnome-session
[03:53] <samthewildone> then do a startx
[03:53] <samthewildone> brent2, going off my aging slackware memories
[03:53] <reisio> hahah
[03:54] <brent2> samthewildone, do you have reservations against using a display manager?
[03:54] <samthewildone> brent2, ah nope
[03:54] <samthewildone> but I guess I need one huh ..
[03:54] <brent2> you don't need it but it'll make life easier
[03:54] <samthewildone> ok
[03:54] <samthewildone> set me up.
[03:54] <somsip> samthewildone: I found problems with my minimal install were solved when I installed a simple login manager (slim)
[03:55] <brent2> yum install gdm
[03:55] <samthewildone> so far, I did install xserver | gnome-session | gdm
[03:55] <rww> samthewildone: erm, yum?
[03:56] <samthewildone> lol
[03:56] <brent2> service start gdm
[03:56] <samthewildone> apt-get
[03:56] <brent2> oh
[03:56] <brent2> lol
[03:56] <brent2> you said yum earlier
[03:56] <samthewildone> lol
[03:56] <brent2> thought you were using fedora
[03:56] <brent2> or something
[03:56] <samthewildone> I know
[03:56] <unopaste> brent2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:56] <samthewildone> brent2, I was using fedora / centos
[03:56] <samthewildone> all vm
[03:56] <samthewildone> poor guy
[03:56] <rww> 02:52:55 < SchrodingersScat> that's their problem
[03:57] <rww> well, that was a failpaste
[03:57] <brent2> lol
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> This is my 15 minutes of fame!
[03:57] <samthewildone> brent2, classic
[03:57] <rww> thankfully irssi's interpretation of some random line of scrollback wasn't too unfortunate
[03:58] <brent2> (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
[03:58] <brent2> samthewildone, if you have gnome (?) installed you should be able to just launch gdm and log in as normal
[03:59] <brent2> personally I'd just use the gnome install disk though rather than muck around
[03:59] <brent2> samthewildone, the meta package for gnome in ubuntu is ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[04:00] <somsip> SchrodingersScat: paranopia - the feeling IRCers get that, somewhere, the ops are talking about tham behind their backs...
[04:01] <brent2> http://i.imgur.com/pFxHp3R.png
[04:01] <rww> i actually have no idea how that got to my pastebuffer ;)
[04:01] <samthewildone> brent2, got it
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> rww is a friendly op :p
[04:02] <brent2> ☺
[04:02] <samthewildone> man this is really barebones !
[04:02] <samthewildone> love it
[04:02] <samthewildone> whats going rww  ???
[04:03] <Flannel> samthewildone: #ubuntu-offtopic is a happenin' place!
[04:04] <tucemiux> hallo?
[04:04] <samthewildone> hallo
[04:04] <tucemiux> anyone knows if yahoo mail is down?
[04:04] <samthewildone> yes
[04:04] <tucemiux> I dont know if I'll be able to change my freenode password
[04:04] <samthewildone> tucemiux, I shut it down.
[04:04] <brent2> anyone know how to make Pidgin show a proper alert in plank dock when I receive a message?
[04:04] <samthewildone> opps I though I was in off topic
[04:05] <brent2> xchat's orb turns red and I get a message count, but I don't get the same with pidgin: http://i.imgur.com/UBDH6p7.png
[04:12] <samthewildone> brent2, hey
[04:12] <brent2> heyhey
[04:12] <samthewildone> brent2, ubuntu-desktop is install all the crap I don't want
[04:12] <samthewildone> bah
[04:12] <brent2> yeah, it's a metapackage
[04:12] <samthewildone> u did tell me...
[04:13] <wolegroon> Hello everyone.
[04:13] <samthewildone> @ least I know I gonna reinstall anyway.
[04:13] <samthewildone> wolegroon, hey
[04:13] <brent2> samthewildone, you can remove it though if you want using aptitude's curses menu
[04:13] <brent2> i think
[04:14] <brent2> samthewildone, sorry for not being clear, if you want just gnome you can literally just do apt-get install gnome
[04:14] <samthewildone> err... I wanted the fallback gnome
[04:14] <wolegroon> Could you guys give me any suggestions for a text editor with: being lightweight, having syntax highlighting and tabs as being the only real requirements?
[04:14] <samthewildone> which I managed to screw that up.
[04:14] <samthewildone> wolegroon, gedit
[04:14] <brent2> samthewildone, that comes with package gnome-panel iirc
[04:15] <brent2> old-school gnome2-style ui
[04:15] <samthewildone> wolegroon, I program my programs through gedit
[04:15] <brent2> not sure if you need a full gnome install or not
[04:15] <Nimble> wolegroon, vim
[04:15] <wolegroon> samthewildone, Gedit's what I'm currently using... Their over-zealous ctrl+backspace is driving me nuts.
[04:15] <brent2> wolegroon, geany is my favorite
[04:15] <brent2> it's a lot like notepad++ on windows
[04:16] <wolegroon> I'll give it a try, brent2, thanks.
[04:16] <felty> Can I use Notepad++ in xubuntu?
[04:17] <Nimble> through wine
[04:17] <wolegroon> feity, I've had success installing it through Wine before.
[04:17] <wolegroon> ((The machine I'm using now can't handle it very well))
[04:18] <felty> wolegroon:I think it will be very unstable, isn't it?
[04:18] <brent2> felty, wolegroon http://i.imgur.com/hwpc3IR.png
[04:18] <brent2> almost the same thing imo
[04:18] <brent2> as npp
[04:18] <brent2> felty, there's a linux port of notepad++ but it's terrible and buggy, geany's a great replacement
[04:19] <felty> geany is also web coding tool?
[04:19] <brent2> yeah
[04:19] <wolegroon> brent2: Thanks, I'm installing it now.
[04:19] <unik> can someone tell me why firefox fonts in kubuntu look so weird?
[04:20] <unik> I don't mean the menu, url bar, etc but the website contents
[04:20] <wolegroon> unik, I'm not sure, but I think it might have to do with using bitmap fonts instead of ttf's.
[04:20] <wolegroon> I was just reading something about it... Let me see if I can find it again.
[04:20] <unik> Yes, please.
[04:20] <unik> THanks
[04:21] <wolegroon> unik: Check this forum post out. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=135939
[04:22] <unik> volegroon: that's exactly what I need. thank you very much
[04:22] <unik> wolegroon
[04:23] <wolegroon> unik, no problem. :)
[04:24] <adam_> hi
[04:24] <wolegroon> Hello adam_.
[04:25] <adam_> hows it goin wole
[04:26] <wolegroon> It's going well.
[04:26] <wolegroon> Searching around for text editors. :)
[04:27] <khanglu> hi
[04:27] <adam_> cool my first time on linux checking everything out
[04:28] <somsip> adam_: so the things is, that this is the support channel for people with problems. If you've got one, give us details so we can help. If you want to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks
[04:28] <wolegroon> Switching to linux may be a little tough at first (like switching to anything else would be), but it is worth it.
[04:28] <adam_> Oh ok Somsip sorry
[04:29] <brent2> somsip, how does support here work? are there employees of canonical in the channel?
[04:30] <brent2> or is it volunteer/community?
[04:30] <somsip> brent2: no - all volunteers
[04:30] <MoPac> Hello. I have a question about a kernel fix that was "released for Utopic at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1365378 . I have a card reader not being ecognized in Utopic, and I'm on kernel 3.16.0-17.  . How can I figure out whether it should be working for me or not? I can't tel if the release is in my current kernel version
[04:30] <wolegroon> Well, brent2, it looks like I'll be giving Geany a try for a bit. Thanks again. :)
[04:30] <brent2> neat
[04:30] <brent2> wolegroon, np, for some reason people don't mention it very often but I like it quite a lot, especially coming from notepad++ on windows
[04:31] <jjwright> Can anyone help with a 13.04 system booting into read-only mode?
[04:32] <brent2> jjwright, read-only as in your filesystem is mounted as read only?
[04:33] <jjwright> brent: Correct. The server was actiing weird, I rebooted and the filesystem came back as read-only.
[04:34] <brent2> subsequent reboots do nothing to help?
[04:34] <brent2> also, is SMART enabled on the drive?
[04:35] <jjwright> Nothing. I forced it to mount with read/write with sudo mount -o remount / then tried to force a disk check with touch /forcefsck but that didn't work either.
[04:35] <jjwright> This system is actually running on ESXi which is not reporting any issues with disks or the datastore.
[04:37] <brent2> hmm
[04:37] <brent2> I don't know anything about esxi, sorry
[04:37] <brent2> my first idea would be to check smartctl
[04:37] <brent2> also make sure / isn't full even though that's probably a silly suggestion
[04:37] <jjwright> I don't think it has anything to do with esxi.
[04:39] <jjwright> The disk is only 6% used.
[04:39] <brent2> sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdx
[04:39] <brent2> x being the proper device map
[04:41] <brent2> something similar happened to me not long ago and it was something really simple but I can't remember what it was, took just a few moments to fix
[04:41] <jjwright> smartctl is not installed. I could install it but i'm trying not to make any filesystem changes.
[04:41] <brent2> I see
[04:44] <brent2> jjwright, is this the root partition?
[04:44] <jjwright> brent2: yep, the root and only partition
[04:45] <brent2> darn, if you can afford the downtime maybe you can check it with smartctl using a live disk or something
[04:46] <jjwright> brent2: I tried to run fsck from the ubuntu cd but it doesn't apper to be on it. Seems weird.
[04:47] <brent2> that's really weird..
[04:47] <Blaster> How long does Java 8 installation generally take?  My Ansible provisioner has been sitting on it for like 10+ minutes.
[04:48] <tortib> hello
[04:48] <booby_tables_24> Sup
[04:48] <tortib> has an update been released for the bash exploit yet?
[04:48] <booby_tables_24> Nopes
[04:48] <tortib> that's not good...
[04:48] <brent2> it hasn't?
[04:48] <booby_tables_24> Yeah..
[04:48] <booby_tables_24> But im kinda wprking on it
[04:48] <brent2> you sure? it seems to be patched on my end
[04:48] <Blaster> Bash exploit?
[04:48] <brent2> unless I'm mistaken
[04:48] <tortib> brent2: how can I check if it's patched?
[04:49] <booby_tables_24> Try yo exploit yourself?
[04:49] <brent2> maybe my info is wrong, but you can try: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo testing"
[04:49] <brent2> tortib, ^
[04:50] <brent2> http://i.imgur.com/SYEu0TE.png
[04:50] <tortib> brent2: is it supposed to echo testing?
[04:50] <brent2> if it says 'vulnerable' then you're vulnerable
[04:50] <booby_tables_24> Its suposed to, but it wpnt
[04:50] <brent2> if it looks like my pic then you're safe
[04:50] <brent2> (I think)
[04:50] <tortib> I need to find out for sure :\
[04:51] <brent2> tortib, https://i.imgur.com/SYEu0TE.png
[04:51] <tortib> brent2: yeah I get that but you're not certain.
[04:51] <brent2> only because of what booby_tables_24 said
[04:52] <tortib> I updated the following packages: libnss3 libnss3-1d libnss3-nssdb
[04:52] <tortib> but those are network security, not sure if that relates to bash...I would think not.
[04:52] <reisio> it's just bash
[04:52] <booby_tables_24> What happens when you execute it?
[04:52] <Elimin8er> brent2, I just tired what you put. and out of my 2 linux systems only 1 did what your pic shows
[04:53] <booby_tables_24> Update bash
[04:53] <Elimin8er> the other showed diffrently
[04:53] <Elimin8er> which is funny.
[04:53] <tortib> Elimin8er: what did it show?
[04:53] <reisio> ...either they say 'vulnerable' or they don't :p
[04:53] <booby_tables_24> Or whatever terminal emulator you are using
[04:53] <brent2> I have an ancient system and on that system it says 'vulnerable'; on all of my updated systems it does not
[04:53] <brent2> I am not a professional and this information does not come with a warranty™
[04:53] <reisio> no surprise there
[04:53] <Elimin8er> my other system said, vulnerable and testing
[04:54] <reisio> Elimin8er: so vulnerable
[04:54] <brent2> upgrade and dist-upgrade and bam
[04:54] <brent2> justworks
[04:54] <Elimin8er> doesnt really mater.. im behind a router and private network.. I can wait for the patch on it
[04:55] <tortib> brent2: oh it was apart of the dist-upgradE?
[04:55] <tortib> I did that last night
[04:55] <Elimin8er> i only have a few ports open from the outside
[04:55] <reisio> it's already patched
[04:55] <brent2> ^
[04:55] <tortib> k
[04:55] <tortib> thanks guys
[04:55] <tortib> you're very helpful
[04:55] <reisio> dunno by last night, but it's patched
[04:55] <reisio> although they found a second problem :p
[04:56] <tortib> well I don't have any kernel images to upgrade to
[04:56] <tortib> I'm running 3.13.0-36-generic
[04:57] <Elimin8er> im running 3.16.0-17-generic
[04:57] <Elimin8er> on both systems
[04:57] <tortib> damn yo, you're out of date.
[04:58] <Elimin8er> I remember 10 years ago running debian with kernel 1.2.X
[04:58] <Elimin8er> more then 10 by now
[04:59] <reisio> yeah?
[04:59] <reisio> I remember running the Multics kernel
[04:59] <l2ksolkov> Is there any reason to upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04 LTS?
[04:59] <brent2> it makes you cooler on irc for one thing
[04:59] <reisio> l2ksolkov: so your software isn't really old?
[04:59] <brent2> you don't look like a n00b
[04:59] <tortib> I remember walking to school in the snow during the summer up hill both ways
[04:59] <brent2> l2ksolkov, there's no reason to upgrade if you don't mind the outdated software
[04:59] <brent2> at least not until support stops
[05:00] <cfhowlett> l2ksolkov, is there a reason not to?
[05:00] <Elimin8er> im using the 14.10.. yes I like to play with fire.
[05:00] <brent2> what a madman
[05:03] <Richhh> trying to write a script to perform a lot of timing tests of a 3rd-party java program. how can I append the running time to a file (eg using time). Tried echo { time java -classpath ... blah ... ; } 2> output.txt as suggested here -> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13356628/is-there-a-way-to-redirect-time-output-to-file-in-linux . no luck
[05:03] <netlar> Elimin8er: Are you using Unity too?
[05:03] <Elimin8er> no way
[05:04] <Elimin8er> gnome
[05:04] <Elimin8er> I dislike the unity
[05:04] <netlar> Elimin8er: Just wondering, I love Unity, just was curious what they might be changing or enhancing
[05:05] <booby_tables_24> Richhh use echo >> file
[05:05] <brent2> unity reminds me of a failed combination of the osx top panel and the windows 7 taskbar
[05:05] <Elimin8er> netlar, I have tried it.. its still just as the older version.. I think your talking about v8 or something.. its the same
[05:05] <netlar> Elimin8er: Yes Unity 8, so the same huh
[05:06] <MoPac> anybody know if the ARChon hack for Chrome to run Android apps will work in Ubuntu Touch?
[05:06] <Elimin8er> I cant see why anyone would like unity
[05:07] <cfhowlett> !touch  | MoPac, ask the !touch channel
[05:07] <netlar> I love the search function, and I like the launchbar too.  Plus so love how you can get to application menues from unity too
[05:07] <Elimin8er> ill stick to my gnome
[05:07] <Elimin8er> its faster I think.
[05:08] <netlar> Guess I must be in the minority
[05:08] <brent2> netlar, i wish they'd just modularize that stuff
[05:08] <brent2> and provide it as individual packages
[05:08] <Elimin8er> kde looks cool.. but way too slow and lagging.
[05:08] <netlar> brent2: Modularize what stuff?
[05:08] <brent2> netlar, things like the nice search functionality that the Unity HUD brings with it
[05:09] <brent2> netlar, I'd like to be able to use that in XFCE for example
[05:09] <tortib> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365158
[05:09] <Elimin8er> brent2, I do agree with you on that
[05:09] <tortib> I guess it isn't patched yet
[05:09] <brent2> darn
[05:09] <netlar> brent2: Yes I see, that is what I love about Unity, but yes be nice to have that in the other flavors too
[05:10] <netlar> brent2: I just was kinda hoping they may bring back the other lenses that you could add
[05:11] <brent2> I like some of the functionality but overall it's just disappointing compared to most other options
[05:11] <brent2> I don't understand why anyone would want or need a panel and a launcher when you can have the same functionality in something like the Windows 7 taskbar, or even the top panel+dock approach. Going from Gnome 2 to Unity felt like a big downgrade
[05:12] <brent2> really been enjoying xubuntu though, they did a great job
[05:12] <xangua> netlar: you can use synapse to launch programs/open files
[05:12] <Elimin8er> brent2, have you tried the gnome 3 yet?
[05:12] <netlar> xangua: Yes true, but the Dash is just as fast for me
[05:13] <brent2> Elimin8er, I have used it quite a bit. The version used in Debian (3.4? 3.6?) is alright but not really perfect, and it seems like it's going downhill
[05:13] <brent2> Elimin8er, but it's better than unity
[05:13] <Elimin8er> haha.. true to that
[05:13] <brent2> every subsequent version breaks all of the extensions I use
[05:13] <netlar> So no Unity lovers out there??
[05:13] <brent2> which is a major pain
[05:13] <Elimin8er> my understanding gnome 3 is still beta
[05:14] <Elimin8er> I could be wrong
[05:14] <brent2> maybe so, but I feel like they're moving in the wrong direction, beta or not
[05:14] <brent2> my laptop is not a tablet
[05:14] <brent2> it seems like it would be awesome on a linux tablet
[05:14] <brent2> but not on my HTPC or laptop or whatever
[05:15] <AyEAPM5KQqMdNe1u> is there a way to prevent icons from grouping in unity?
[05:15] <AyEAPM5KQqMdNe1u> i've searched online and none of the solutions are any good
[05:15] <brent2> install an external panel i guess
[05:16] <brent2> otherwise i don't think so
[05:25] <devboard> quit
[05:28] <felty> quit
[05:29] <spikeb> start
[05:39] <Horsemeds> Do i need to take any precautions regarding the new Bash bug other than applying the patch? I noticed the Media is saying the patch may not work
[05:45] <bkrj> what media?
[05:46] <Horsemeds> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-25/new-software-bug-may-pose-bigger-threat-than-heartbleed/5769076
[05:46] <Horsemeds> "That means some systems could be exploited even though they are patched," said Chris Wysopal, chief technology officer with security software maker Veracode.
[05:47] <felty> I installed WIne and I'm curious where is the C:/ folder
[05:47] <bkrj> Maybe test your system after patching?
[05:48] <Horsemeds> bkrj what tests do you suggest?
[05:52] <bkrj> someone said lookout for CVE-2014-7169. i think that will be updated once things clear up. for testing, i'm not the one to talk
[05:52] <Horsemeds> ok thanks
[05:53] <bkrj> i take you already did the basic test that was suggested
[05:54] <Horsemeds> bkrj all i have done is the patch
[05:54] <Horsemeds> what was the suggestion?
[05:54] <bkrj> see diagnostic steps in https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223
[05:54] <Horsemeds> cheers
[05:57] <bkrj> hmm, rh has a nice bug report
[05:58] <bkrj> i don't see that for ubuntu and debian
[05:59] <Horsemeds> maybe soon to come
[06:03] <ryannathans> I have two wlan devices, one is connected to the internet via a VPN. How can I set up the second device to allow devices to connect to it and access the internet
[06:03] <ryannathans> Obviously my laptop needs to be assigning IP addresses to clients and tunneling
[06:04] <steve66tn> hello
[06:05] <steve66tn> I am a new user I just installed studio
[06:06] <steve66tn> Everything works good except none of my windows computers can see the linusx
[06:06] <steve66tn> linux comp
[06:06] <steve66tn> hello am I here?
[06:06] <Horsemeds> yes
[06:07] <steve66tn> OK what do I need to do to let the other comps on my network see me?
[06:07] <steve66tn> I can see the others fine
[06:07] <Horsemeds> im new too, sorry
[06:07] <steve66tn> ohh ok
[06:07] <steve66tn> but none of the other comps can see me they are on Win 7
[06:08] <steve66tn> can anyone help me?
[06:12] <abnormal> steve66tn, can you go to Spotchat server and in #chatroom? a guy nicked pencilandpaper knows about Ubuntu Studio...
[06:12] <abnormal> he uses it all the time...
[06:24] <squinty> abnormal:  he is also in #linuxmint-chat quite often too.
[06:25] <abnormal> oh, goodie...  that's nice to know..  ty
[06:25] <abnormal> oh, wait, that's still in the spotchat server tho...
[06:26] <squinty> yes
[06:26] <abnormal> so I have no access to spotchat due to my Verizon hotspot...
[06:31] <abnormal> even if I use a BNC still not able  to connect to spotchat
[06:34] <polikit> Hi all! Any info about CVE-2014–6271? How can I patch Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[06:36] <somsip> polikit: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash (but another patch is due soon)
[06:36] <ICantCook> somsip - another patch is due soon?
[06:36] <ICantCook> this first patch isn't complete?
[06:36] <Mouzz> Is it expected to have a delay in name resolution if the first configured dns server in /etc/network/interfaces is down? Is there no mechanism that, after a while, the second dns server is used first?
[06:36] <somsip> ICantCook: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365158
[06:37] <ICantCook> thanks
[06:37] <somsip> ICantCook: maybe not the most succint link, but the patch does cover all possible exploits
[06:38] <somsip> ICantCook: sorry - ...original patch doesn't cover...
[06:39] <polikit> somsip
[06:39] <polikit> somsip
[06:39] <polikit> somsip: I haven't any updates If i try to apt-get upgrade
[06:39] <ICantCook> somsip: damn lol.  Just finished patching everything :)
[06:40] <Aaron> polikit, stop flooding please,
[06:47] <indeed> is there a specific room for technical help?
[06:48] <somsip> indeed: just state the problem and someone may be able to help
[06:49] <indeed> Thanks. FYI I'm fairly new to linux still. Anyways I'm trying to sudo apt-get update but when I do I get
[06:49] <indeed> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed?
[06:50] <indeed> When I try to install that I get
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[06:50] <indeed> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main apt-transport-https amd64 1.0.1ubuntu2.1   404  Not Found
[06:51] <somsip> indeed: this might help http://aptosid.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2808
[06:51] <somsip> indeed: seems like one of your sources is using https. Do you have any PPAs that might be the culprit?
[06:53] <indeed> somsip: how would I find that out?
[06:53] <indeed> somsip: thank you
[06:55] <somsip> indeed: try 'grep -nir https /etc/apt' and see if it gives you any results. Use !paste to paste the response if you need to
[06:56] <indeed> !paste grep: /etc/apt/auth.conf: Permission denied grep: /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg: Permission denied /etc/apt/sources.list.d/private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.list:1:deb https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu precise main #Added by software-center; credentials stored in /etc/apt/auth.conf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.l
[06:57] <indeed> ha! didn't work
[06:57] <somsip> indeed: try the same command with sudo
[06:57] <squinty> indeed:  you need to use   sudo   in front of the command
[06:58] <somsip> squinty: shouldn't everything be w+r in /etc/apt? It is for me... I agree he needs sudo though
[06:59] <indeed> somsip: squinty: ah ok thank you!
[06:59] <ICantCook> somsip: cygwin's bash is vulnerable to this (I tested it).  Would this be acceptable if no windows apps running on the server interact with cygwin/bash ?
[07:00] <indeed> somsip: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.list:1:deb https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu precise main #Added by software-center; credentials stored in /etc/apt/auth.conf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/private-ppa.launchpad.net_commercial-ppa-uploaders_steam_ubuntu.list.save:1:deb https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/commercial-ppa-uploaders/steam/ubuntu pr
[07:00] <somsip> ICantCook: I read on some thread somewhere that Cygwin bash has been updated with the first patch. And it depends what your server is being used for whether it
[07:00] <somsip> 's vulnerable
[07:01] <somsip> !paste | indeed
[07:02] <indeed> Ah sorry again! here is the pastebin link
[07:02] <indeed> somsip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8423549/
[07:02] <ICantCook> somsip: Cool.  I want to monitor this and patch Ubuntu, CentOS and Cygwin servers as soon as patch2 is out.  Where would I go to monitor the status of this?
[07:03] <somsip> indeed: This does not look like the output of grep -nir https /etc/apt. Is it?
[07:03] <somsip> ICantCook: I'm in here to monitor the status of ubuntu. Though I am relying on someone else to make an announcement.
[07:04] <indeed> somsip: yes actually it is.
[07:04] <somsip> indeed: sorry - just saw the https. So this is the offending repo. Try renaming that file to .bak and running update to see if it works without that ppa
[07:05] <indeed> somsip: will do thank you
[07:07] <indeed> somsip: both files?
[07:08] <somsip> indeed: just the .list, not the .save
[07:10] <squinty> indeed:  fwiw  you can also use Software Updates > Other Software and disable (toggle on/off) any PPA's you have installed there too
[07:12] <toothe> anyone know why the 'Connection' option on my bluetooth settings to my phone is greyed out?
[07:12] <toothe> its on the Off position
[07:12] <indeed> somsip: worked like a charm thank you so much!
[07:13] <somsip> indeed: now you just need to figure out how to fix the PPA, if you really need it. I'll leave that with you
[07:13] <indeed> somsip: what exactly went wrong? or where can I learn more about this? it was working before i'm not sure why it popped up all of a sudden.
[07:13] <indeed> squinty: ah ok thank you. I'll keep that in mind as well.
[07:14] <squinty> yw
[07:14] <indeed> somsip: I'm not even sure what it is to be honest. but thank you nonetheless
[07:14] <somsip> indeed: no idea. I just searched, found that link I posted earlier and gave you a workaround. It doesn't fix anything - just points the finger at the PPA
[07:16] <indeed> somsip: better than nothing eh? thanks again.
[07:16] <bkrj> i deleted a ppa reference in /etc/apt/sources.list.d but after reboot, it came back. why?
[07:17] <somsip> !ppp-purge | bkrj (maybe there's something else that needed to be done)
[07:17] <somsip> !ppa-purge | bkrj (maybe there's something else that needed to be done)
[07:17] <j0hnskot> Hey there! I got a problem. I'm using 14.04 64bit, and at random times there will be high disk activity and the pc will slow down too much. At first i thought it was the swap. But it happened even when the swap was not used. Any help?
[07:18] <bkrj> somsip: thanks
[07:19] <Ben64> j0hnskot: use iotop to see whats using the resources
[07:20] <j0hnskot> I did. Not every time the same app was using the disk. It showed 6-7mb of read/write but it was spread out on many applications
[07:25] <bondmain> shellshock. oh god.
[07:25] <bkrj> they're actually calling it that?
[07:26] <bondmain> yup.
[07:28] <OerHeks> If you run bash 4.3-7ubuntu1.1 you are safe http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[07:28] <j0hnskot> is there a way to record disk activity to check which app does the most read/writes?
[07:28] <thiocy> hi
[07:29] <sjuxax> OerHeks: Not totally. More vulnerabilities are being discovered in function parsing as attention has been drawn to that section of code. There are PoCs all over out there that work even on fully patched systems.
[07:30] <bkrj> j0hnskot: try iostat
[07:30] <sjuxax> Only options at this point are to excise bash entirely (switch to dash or some other shell), turn off the vulnerable systems until all issues are patched, or cross fingers
[07:30] <bkrj> scratch that. it's iotop
[07:31] <thiocy> i have a problem with my ubuntu can somebody help me please?
[07:32] <somsip> !details | thiocy
[07:32] <thiocy> thanks. i misconfigured the grub file /etc/default/grub
[07:33] <thiocy> i changed last command GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX that had something i didnt wrote
[07:33] <thiocy> but i restore grub from rescatux os and seems fine. but. the lightdm does not show anything only a cursor
[07:33] <thiocy> and moves me after 30 secs to tty1. why?
[07:34] <somsip> thiocy: what is rescatux os and why did you use the file from it?
[07:34] <leeyaa> hello
[07:34] <thiocy> rescatux os is an operating system (live) that restore grub and mbr in case something goes wrong. like my case. i did it alot of times when i had problems and always did the job
[07:35] <leeyaa> how to resolve this dependancy error https://bpaste.net/show/8f97467119d2
[07:35] <somsip> thiocy: fair enough. I'd have recommended this. Maybe there is useful information that might help
[07:35] <somsip> !grub-rescue | thiocy
[07:35] <j0hnskot> bkrj, iostats give me general stats. Is there an option to make it show me stats for each application separate?
[07:35] <hateball> !fixgrub
[07:35] <somsip> hateball: thanks
[07:36] <bkrj> j0hnskot: i revised to iotop :)
[07:36] <bkrj> i think that's more suitable for you
[07:36] <thiocy> somsip: is that a command?
[07:36] <somsip> thiocy: that was the !fixgrub help that I misremembered
[07:36] <squinty> a revamp of supergrub2 which uses Boot-Repair to fix grub problems (lxde slack iirc)
[07:37] <somsip> leeyaa: do you use any non-official repos, like PPAs?
[07:37] <toothe> why is my option to connect as a network device via bluetooth greyed out?
[07:37] <thiocy> somsip: thanks i will try that. thanks a lot
[07:37] <leeyaa> somsip: no, default 14.04 LTS
[07:37] <leeyaa> somsip: ah lol
[07:37] <leeyaa> for some reason my source.list is change
[07:37] <leeyaa> just checked
[07:38] <leeyaa> or not deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[07:38] <leeyaa> should it be archive.ubuntu ?
[07:39] <Psil0Cybin> if i download a .tar.bz2 or what ever and extract it and am using it as a program where is the best place to place it?
[07:39] <Psil0Cybin> folder wise so i can launch it like other programs?
[07:39] <Psil0Cybin> bin something rather?
[07:39] <somsip> !fhs | Psil0Cybin
[07:40] <somsip> Psil0Cybin: tldr; place the executable somewhere on your $PATH. Usually this wil be ~/bin or /usr/local/bin but is often /opt and elsewhere too
[07:40] <leeyaa> somsip: fixed it. for some reason sources was not original
[07:40] <somsip> leeyaa: cool
[07:40] <leeyaa> thanks for the tip
[07:40] <Psil0Cybin> somsip: okay thank you so much
[07:47] <j0hnskot> i tried swapoff to make sure the swap is not used. When the memory usage reached 75% , the system started to slow down. Then i opened the ubuntu software center to see how it will react on very high ram usage and it hanged, having 100% activity on the disk. Is that the normal behavior ? I didn't use swap so i guess it should use the disk so much.
[07:48] <OerHeks> j0hnskot, sounds normal, yes
[07:50] <somsip> j0hnskot: how much RAM do you have>?
[07:53] <tarelerulz> Do you even need swap  now?
[07:53] <j0hnskot> somsip,  4gb , i need more. But trying to figure out  how to make it responsive for now .
[07:53] <somsip> tarelerulz: yes, if you don't have a lot of memory
[07:53] <tarelerulz> What is a lot of  memory ?   6gb and up?
[07:53] <j0hnskot> tarelerulz, if you hibernate you need. Also a small swap for safety is not bad. You don't want your pc to crash because of high ram usage
[07:54] <somsip> j0hnskot: well if you are deliberately trying to use up all of the RAM, then the end result will be what you got
[07:54] <somsip> tarelerulz: depends what you use it for. Surf the net and 4GB will be plenty. Run 10 VMs or edit RAW 4k video files and 16GB is not a lot
[07:55] <tarelerulz> Well, that last one is way out of my use rang.    I just got into blue ray as far as video stuff goies
[07:55] <j0hnskot> somsip, the problem is that i don't try. It maxes because of the apps i'm using. At least 2.7 gb wil be used and at that point is when the system starts to slow down. It seems that after 75%, swap or not, the system will start to slow down
[07:58] <tarelerulz> somsip ,  Do you work with 4k video?
[08:00] <somsip> !ot | tarelerulz (it's not relevant to support and I prefer not to get into OT discussions)
[08:01] <somsip> j0hnskot: I don't know enough about how memory management should work to advise. I have enough RAM for what I do and have swap available
[08:02] <jerry_> hello
[08:03] <j0hnskot> somsip well, more ram will probably solve it. Thanks for you help!
[08:03] <funky1> hi there ppl, i'm using a dvb-s card on my ubuntu box in combination with tvheadend. I downloaded tvh last year from git, compiled it, created a deb and installed on my box. I want to update my kernel in ubuntu now, but I will probably have to re-install tvheadend then as well, because of new kernel? and if i do so and use the very same deb file from last year, will my tvheadend settings remain? or will they all be gone? anyone got a clue?
[08:03] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. when I run unity tweak tool it says: the following schema is missing: com.canonical.indicator.sound    In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages
[08:04] <desperate_joe> hello, total noob, could use some step-bystep guidance with a NOKEY error, please
[08:05] <desperate_joe> error: sorry: no pubkey
[08:05] <bazhang> !gpgerr | desperate_joe
[08:05] <somsip> desperate_joe: in what situation?
[08:06] <masoudborbor> hi everybody. when I run unity tweak tool it says: the following schema is missing: com.canonical.indicator.sound    In order to work properly, Unity Tweak Tool recommends you install the necessary packages
[08:07] <desperate_joe> @somsip&ubottu: i tried to install "ubuntu-after-install" and i did a "sudo apt-get update" :  W: GPG error: https://download.01.org trusty InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A902DDA375E52366
[08:08] <tarelerulz> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:10] <somsip> desperate_joe: looks like ubuntu-after-install is not on an official repo and we don't support PPAs in this channel. If you want to use it, you'll need to contact the PPA maintainer for support
[08:10] <desperate_joe> @ubottu: i did: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key>
[08:10] <desperate_joe> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[08:10] <antonio__> I'm trying to use my built in webcam on my ubuntu machine..its not showing up in Google Hangouts.  It worked the last time I used it a few weeks ago
[08:11] <desperate_joe> @somsip: this is the second time that i installed the 14, and in the previous one i also got a  no pubkey error, but i don't find the step-by step guide anymore to get rid of it... or is there a seperate way for every number?
[08:12] <lapion> antonio__, maybe another programm is using it, check skype, but first restart the browser I assume GH is running in\
[08:12] <antonio__> brbr
[08:12] <antonio__> brb
[08:19] <antonio__>  back...
[08:19] <desperate_joe> i have found this: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv F1D53D8C4F368D5D
[08:19] <desperate_joe> gpg --export --armor F1D53D8C4F368D5D | apt-key add -" but now it says this
[08:19] <desperate_joe> gpg: directory `/home/steven/.gnupg' created
[08:19] <desperate_joe> gpg: new configuration file `/home/steven/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[08:19] <desperate_joe> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/steven/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[08:19] <desperate_joe> gpg: keyring `/home/steven/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[08:19] <antonio__> webcam still isn't working with google hangouts...was working fine a few weeks ago..didn't change anything.  DAMN!  I've got a super important google hangout tomorrow
[08:19] <unopaste> desperate_joe you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:21] <riffraff> hi everyone, I upgraded a 12.04 to 14.04 and apparently my /etc/cgconfig.conf is not being used anymore on startup
[08:21] <desperate_joe> @unopaste: why was i muted? i was copy-pasting terminal to show what my problem is... sorry
[08:21] <funky1> antonio__, does ur webcam work in other applications?
[08:21] <antonio__> anyone?  I NEED to get my webcam working...This is super important...
[08:21] <antonio__> funky1: checking skype
[08:21] <somsip> !paste | desperate_joe
[08:21] <riffraff> I can use cgconfigparser -l /etc/cgconfig.conf and then it would work fine, but I'd expect this to happen on reboot which it doesn't :/
[08:21] <Ben64> desperate_joe: read the message unopaste sent you. use a pastebin
[08:22] <desperate_joe> sorry, like i said before, am a noob... taking babysteps here and sometimes fall flat on my face :x(
[08:23] <lionroars> I just cannot receive any of the XMPP requests from my friends
[08:23] <desperate_joe> tried some things to resolve a no pubkey, but doesn't seem to work
[08:24] <antonio__> funky1: appears to work in skype
[08:24] <desperate_joe> is every no pubkey number a different approach?
[08:25] <funky1> antonio__, ok that's good, so no problem with webcam or interface, have you tried re-installing hangouts?
[08:25] <Ben64> desperate_joe: can you pastebin the problem
[08:25] <antonio__> funky1: you can install it?  I'm going straight from chrome
[08:25] <funky1> antonio__, complete removal and re-install of chrome
[08:25] <antonio__> confused..it was working like a week ago
[08:25] <desperate_joe> !pastebinit
[08:26] <funky1> or you could just remove the plugin, re-add and c what happens...
[08:27] <desperate_joe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8423964/  is that the link then?
[08:27] <antonio__> funky1: what plugin?
[08:27] <somsip> desperate_joe: looks like ubuntu-after-install is not on an official repo and we don't support PPAs in this channel. If you want to use it, you'll need to contact the PPA maintainer for support
[08:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hi
[08:28] <melio> is there information about updatnig bash due to the bash shll vulnerability?
[08:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to setup vsftpd
[08:28] <desperate_joe> @somsip: how to undo the "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:thefanclub/ubuntu-after-install" command? because after this i got the problem, so how to undo?
[08:28] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I was able to install it but how to define accounts a password appears to be confusing to me
[08:28] <somsip> melio: just sudo apt-get update && sudo-apt-get install -y bash (but we are awaiting another patch)
[08:28] <melio> thanks
[08:29] <ToAruShiroiNeko> how can I solve this issue?
[08:29] <antonio__> This is freaking ridiculous.  This was working fine like two weeks ago.  Now it just refuses to work.  Damnit!  I've got to get this interview tomorrow...argggh!
[08:29] <desperate_joe> @ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8423964/ (is this ok?)
[08:29] <melio> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash
[08:30] <somsip> melio: in a terminal...
[08:30] <melio> I know i was correcting your output
[08:30] <melio> just incase someone wanted to copy/paste it
[08:30] <somsip> melio: yep - extra hyphen.
[08:30] <melio> ty
[08:30] <antonio__> I might have to reinstall Ubuntu (I'm on 12.04 got a live DVD I made of the newest desktop version).  The only problem is I can't access the internet when I try to install the newest version.  Do I have to have internet when trying to install the newest version?
[08:31] <Ben64> desperate_joe: don't know what repositories you added there, but that isn't supported in here
[08:31] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I just need one example, documentations I read so far are confusing at best
[08:31] <bkrj> antonio__, no you don't need but you can connect during installation
[08:31] <desperate_joe> so, how to remove this repository then?
[08:31] <antonio__> bkrj: no wifi connection is showing up
[08:32] <bkrj> what's the hardware?
[08:32] <antonio__> bkrj: who me?
[08:32] <bkrj> are you on 12.04 and have wifi?
[08:32] <antonio__> yeah
[08:32] <bkrj> you'll probably need to config it after the installation
[08:32] <Ben64> desperate_joe: remove any packages you installed from it, then remove the line(s) from /etc/apt/sources.list and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:33] <antonio__> bkrj: how easy / hard is that?  This webcam has to be working...
[08:33] <antonio__> Should I be able to access the wifi during a installation or a "try it" live DVD?
[08:33] <desperate_joe> @ben64, sorry but don't understand it/how :s
[08:33] <antonio__> brb
[08:34] <yetian> hey all, about the bash bug. :) Should i dist-upgrade or can i just upgrade bash?
[08:34] <yetian> dist upgrade seems to upgrade lots of things including php and we have a platform where that code will need testing before upgrading php
[08:35] <somsip> yetian: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash (but we are waiting for a subsequent patch)
[08:35] <yetian> ah thanks somsip, so no patch on ubuntu repo atm?
[08:35] <xangua> yetian: updates in ubuntu are mostly security updates, there are no major version updates of your programs if that is what you are afraid of
[08:35] <somsip> yetian: the first patch is available, but a bug was found in that so we are waiting for a second patch
[08:35] <yetian> xangua: I'm thinking about things like php and mysql, we'd require a lot of testing if they are upgraded for obvious reasons
[08:36] <yetian> somsip: Ah ok, thanks.
[08:36] <somsip> yetian: just install -y bash and nothing else will be touched
[08:36] <yetian> ok thanks somsip
[08:37] <yetian> somsip: where is the best place to find out when that 2nd patch lands?
[08:38] <somsip> yetian: I'm hoping someone will announce in here. Someone (TJ) posten a link to http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ when it was available.
[08:38] <somsip> yetian: *for the first patch. So maybe the same for the second
[08:38] <yetian> ok somsip thanks
[08:39] <melio> i love how awesome ubuntu 14.04 handles this 1K$ computer i bought
[08:39] <melio> touch screen is brilliant. forget it's there sometimes tho. wish more apps were touch compatiable
[08:39] <coffeecup> I'm running 11.04, I understand it's not supported. Any suggestion on updating bash to fix the bashbleed?
[08:39] <Ben64> coffeecup: yes, upgrade to a supported release
[08:39] <somsip> !11.04
[08:40] <somsip> coffeecup: you're out of look and on your own.
[08:40] <somsip> *luck (gah!)
[08:40] <xangua> you are out of coffee ;)
[08:40] <somsip> xangua: only two cups today...
[08:40] <coffeecup> 11.04 server. With all that's runnning on it, not easy to just upgrade to supported. ANy quick fix for now?
[08:41] <Ben64> why are you running a server on 2 year outdated unpatched software? thats a horrible idea
[08:41] <asher1> Hello someome can please give to me link download for Wizard to linux?
[08:41] <somsip> coffeecup: really, no. I have a 10.10 with some hideously unmaintainable inherited site on it and have told the client we either upgrade or leave it for the script kiddies to hit
[08:41] <antonio__> bkrj: mind if I pm you?
[08:42] <asher1> Hello someome can please give to me link download for Wizard to linux?
[08:42] <somsip> asher1: you may need to say a bit more about what Wizard is
[08:43] <coffeecup> That will take me a couple of days to move all to 14.04
[08:43] <asher1> really i dont know i need run supybot
[08:43] <asher1> for this
[08:43] <coffeecup> any easy upgrade from 11.04 to 14.04?
[08:43] <somsip> coffeecup: swap dash in place of bash?
[08:43] <xangua> coffeecup: a couple of day mean nothing compared to a couple of years
[08:43] <asher1> do you know? somsip
[08:44] <Ben64> coffeecup: the bash bug is the least of your worries though, theres all sorts of bugs in the past 2 years, apache, ssl, ssh, etc
[08:44] <somsip> asher1: you want to run something called supybot?
[08:44] <desperate_joe> it seems that i was disconnected :(
[08:44] <desperate_joe> i used sudo add-apt-repositry --remove ppa: .... but after doing the sudo update i still get the no pubkey error ...
[08:44] <Ben64> desperate_joe: thats not what i said at all
[08:44] <bkrj> antoinio__: isn't it wifi?
[08:44] <Ben64> desperate_joe: remove any packages you installed from it, then remove the line(s) from /etc/apt/sources.list and/or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:45] <coffeecup> xanga: 2 days is long under the pressure of the bashbleed.
[08:45] <Ben64> coffeecup: you have much larger vulnerabilities going on right now
[08:45] <asher1> yes
[08:45] <somsip> asher1: it's not supported here. Contact the developers
[08:46] <asher1> ok
[08:46] <funky1> antonio__, the hangout plugin in chrome
[08:47] <minimec> coffeecup: OK. So either it works, or you do have to do a new install.... You could install the program 'tasksel', then open it on console and strip your old installation down to ubuntu basic server. Then change the sources to 'trusty' in /etc/apt/sources.list, and do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then start to add the new software you need for the server. That's what I would do, avoiding a new instrall. In your case, I would probably do a new install
[08:47] <desperate_joe> @ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8424046/ can you look at this?
[08:47] <Ben64> coffeecup: what minimec is definitely not recommended or supported in this channel, do so at your own peril
[08:47] <coffeecup> Ben64: I guess I'm going to spend the night on coffee
[08:48] <uberjar> Hi.  Does anyone know anything about DNS caching via nscd or any other mechanism ?
[08:48] <minimec> Ben64: I agree and that's why I mention, that I would not do it in his case...
[08:48] <bkrj> desperate_joe: why do you prefix with PPA_?
[08:48] <Ben64> coffeecup: why did you add PPA
[08:49] <desperate_joe> @bkrj so drop the prefix then?
[08:49] <bkrj> i think you need ppa-purge. removing the file didn't work for me
[08:49] <Ben64> desperate_joe: nowhere does it say PPA_ why add it
[08:49] <Psil0Cybin> hey maybe someoen can help me, installed stream asked me to add a PPA x-swat, etc for gfx driver update, did it and it made a wierd setting change, now how would i be able to revert from adding this PPA perhaps someone who has experience with steam might help me out?
[08:50] <desperate_joe> the guide i follewed said PPA_name: so i presumed it was "PPA_ and then the name of the file
[08:50] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: stream = steam?
[08:50] <Psil0Cybin> yea sorry
[08:50] <bkrj> PPA_name=name
[08:50] <coffeecup> thanks guys
[08:50] <bkrj> i deleted the file but after reboot it comes back. so someone here suggested using ppa-purge
[08:51] <Ben64> i don't know if ppa-purge works on non-launchpad ppa's
[08:51] <xangua> !ppa-purge | Psil0Cybin
[08:53] <desperate_joe> ok, i removed the ppa, but after doing the sudo update still get nopubkey error :s
[08:53] <Psil0Cybin> perfect worked amazingly ty
[08:53] <Psil0Cybin> or might let me see
[08:53] <bkrj> Ben64: there is non-launchpad ppa?
[08:53] <alipoor90> Hi , is there any Linux software which make a visual catalog of filesystem tree ? which makes me enable to backup filesystem tree (folders and file names,time stamps,sizes - but without actual data) ?
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> worked perfectly xangua ty
[08:54] <bkrj> desperate_joe: are you sure you removed the right one
[08:55] <bkrj> alipoor90: tree
[08:55] <pam> Back...
[08:55] <desperate_joe> yes, "theubuntufan....." the problems started after getting that one, and now i removed it but still get error :s
[08:55] <bkrj> alipoor90: not sure about the backup part
[08:56] <pam> Thinking of installing the newest version to my other laptop...I've got 12.10 on it now....Can I install it and keep my current home folder?
[08:57] <bkrj> desperate_joe: did you check in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:57] <bkrj> pam: yes
[08:57] <alipoor90> I mean mounting file system (or just browsing it inside that software) to just view which folders there and which folders and files are inside which folders , and viewing file and folders sizes and time stamps but without having the actual data
[08:57] <desperate_joe> @bkrj
[08:57] <bkrj> pam: do you have seperate partition for /home?
[08:58] <pam> bkrj: not sure
[08:59] <bkrj> alipoor90: yes, try the tool called "tree". it recursively lists a filesystem. there's probably option for metadata
[08:59] <desperate_joe> look at the steps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8424118/
[08:59] <desperate_joe> first the PPA mistake, then i removed it correctly without the PPA
[09:00] <somsip> !ppa-purge | desperate_joe (you don't just delete the .list and .save files)
[09:00] <bkrj> pam: pastebin "cat /etc/fstab". but if you don't know, it's probably on the same partition as /
[09:01] <bkrj> pam: if everything is under same partition, i'd move my stuff elsewhere before installing
[09:07] <ToAruShiroiNeko> could someone please guide me in setting up vsftpd?
[09:07] <desperate_joe> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory>: in my case is reponame= theubuntu... but where/how to find subdirectory?
[09:08] <BobBall> With upstart "mounted /tmp" does that require /tmp to be a seperate filesystem or does it trigger if /tmp is mounted when / is mounted?  The docs don't seem clear to me for this :/
[09:08] <somsip> desperate_joe: look on the PPA maintainer's webpage.
[09:13] <xangua> desperate_joe: somsip it's not a PPA repository
[09:14] <somsip> xangua: it's a non-launchpad PPA?
[09:17] <xangua> My mistake, didn't read all the funny name
[09:17] <desperate_joe> @xangua what's somsip? what do you mean?
[09:22] <bkrj> desperate_joe: worth trying -> software-properties-gtk / other software -> and remove from there
[09:23] <bkrj> i think that worked for me
[09:23] <bkrj> i didn't actually try ppa-purge
[09:27] <Kornosaurus> Performance wise, unity or gnome?
[09:27] <desperate_joe> thank you everybody for your patience and help... it is not resolved yet, but something came up, will try it later again ;)
[09:28] <bkrj> Kornosaurus: try both and see
[09:28] <bkrj> but i'll go with gnome
[09:28] <somsip> Kornosaurus: unity has a reputation for being heavy. I don't see many direct comparisons against gnome in that respect though
[09:28] <frib> is a patch needed for "shell shock" bug?
[09:28] <somsip> frib: partial. Just apt-get update and apt-get install -y bash
[09:29] <frib> somsip, thanks
[09:29] <cfhowlett> frib, I just tested my machine - no problem found.  then again, I run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  daily
[09:29] <somsip> frib: there is another, more complete, patch due later apparently
[09:29] <frib> somsip, meaning this method is not 100% protective?
[09:29] <somsip> frib: the patch has a bug
[09:29] <Kornosaurus> I'll try it out, thanks
[09:29] <frib> somsip, great haha
[09:29] <somsip> frib: well, it doesn't totally solve the original bug
[09:29] <cfhowlett> somsip, patch needs a patch!
[09:30] <somsip> cfhowlett: metapatch
[09:30] <frib> somsip, guess i'll have to check back later then
[09:30] <cfhowlett> somsip, incepatch
[09:30] <frib> how about android OS?
[09:30] <Ben64> frib: just run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade anyway
[09:30] <somsip> cfhowlett: you not been about much today. Are you up to speed on the bash patch thing? Lots of enquiries today...
[09:31] <xangua> frib: not topic but there are still a bazillion people using 2.3 devices
[09:31] <cfhowlett> somsip, I only just found out about it (China time).  I did the test the article mentioned and found no problem.  don't know why.  My only maintenance is daily dist-upgrade ...
[09:31] <TJ-> CVE-2014-7169 is the ID of the fix for CVE-2014-6271
[09:31] <frib> xangua, what does that have to do with the bug?
[09:32] <xangua> frib: well you asked about android...
[09:32] <frib> xangua, if a patch was needed to protect against the bug
[09:33] <somsip> TJ-: will you announce the uns when the patched patched is available like yesterday?
[09:33] <somsip> *usn
[09:33] <OnceMe> hello I have small problem
[09:33] <TJ-> somsip: There are RSS and Atom feeds of http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[09:34] <OnceMe> I installed pulse audio and in it I set for Simultenious output all loca cards in one virtuel device
[09:34] <OnceMe> but I don't know how to set it as my output sound ?
[09:34] <OnceMe> do I need to restart pc?
[09:36] <somsip> TJ-: thank you. a few people have asked today and I didn't know. Now I do
[09:36] <OnceMe> help me please
[09:36] <cfhowlett> OnceMe,
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !patience | OnceMe
[09:37] <TJ-> somsip: If you want to watch for the code itself to land, then https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/bash/trusty-security
[09:37] <jbrd_> Hey all - is there an ETA on a #shellshock bash version for 14.10?
[09:39] <TJ-> jbrd_: CVE-2014-6271 already landed in Utopic
[09:39] <EriC^^> TJ-: how does nobody notice you can add executable code to after a function definition for like 20 years
[09:39] <TJ-> Grrrr @ ubottu ... stop repeating yourself
[09:39] <EriC^^> TJ-: i find it crazy
[09:39] <TJ-> EriC^^: Because no-one tried?
[09:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: but it's so trivial and it's been there forever
[09:40] <jbrd_> TJ-: Not that I can see -- still 4.3-9ubuntu1
[09:40] <EriC^^> how could you not try it somehow
[09:40] <TJ-> jbrd_: 4.3-9ubuntu2
[09:41] <TJ-> EriC^^:  Have you ever tried sending additional data after a NUL (0) value in your IRC messages, to see if you can cause a buffer overflow in the IRC server?
[09:41] <jbrd_> TJ-: Yeah -- I can see that on the packaging site. I have 'utopic-security' in my sources.list. What am I missing?
[09:42] <TJ-> jbrd_: It'll come via the regular archives since 14.10 is in development; are you using an archive mirror?
[09:42] <jbrd_> TJ-: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/bash --- marked as "proposed"
[09:42] <Ben64> jbrd_: join #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 support
[09:42] <TJ-> jbrd_: It's in -proposed
[09:44] <EriC^^> TJ-: no, can't say that i have, but that's not that trivial, some website even said "the patch might cause your software not to work anymore, but you should fix it cause it's considered bad programming practice"
[09:45] <masoudborbor> hi I just wanted to use skype but my microphone is not working. the same in viber linux
[09:45] <EriC^^> TJ-: i sense there's a story behind the NUL (0) character btw?
[09:47] <wx> 额。。
[09:47] <skizu> Is mod_spdy on ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[09:50] <masoudborbor> I have no sound... could anybody help me?
[09:50] <masoudborbor> 1404+kde
[09:53] <jbrd_> TJ-: ah -- got it (without upgrading everything to -proposed). Cheers
[09:54] <killall> Hello, is there a link to the latest ubuntu always up to date? like http://ubuntu.com/latest.iso
[09:54] <cfhowlett> !cn | wx
[09:54] <TJ-> EriC^^: Despite opinions on "bad programming practice", I'd disagree with that since a primary strength of shells, and bash in particular, is the concept of variable and value *Expansion*, the issue here is more to do with how the shell interpreter evaluates the inherited environment during initialisation.
[09:55] <masoudborbor> somebody to help with audio problems in 1404?
[09:55] <skizu> Is mod_spdy on ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !info mod_spdy
[09:55] <k1l> killall: there are daily builds only for the next, not yet released, development release. only the LTS versions get point-releases (like servicepacks on windows).
[09:55] <skizu> cfhowlett: Can I use !info
[09:55] <skizu> !info mod_proxy_fpm
[09:56] <k1l> skizu: you can use packages.ubuntu.com or "apt search keyword"
[09:56] <skizu> k1l: Cheers
[09:56] <killall> k1l:  i want to make a local repository of the latest iso availiable and not all the iso's of ubuntu, there is 14.04 and now 14.04.1.... how do i get always the latest iso (i want to cron it with a wget or rsync)
[09:58] <masoudborbor> somebody to help with audio problems in 1404?
[09:58] <killall> k1l:  get it?
[09:58] <masoudborbor> no speaker sound, no microphone sound.... 1404. help?
[09:59] <teneke> it's good to see that irc still lives. haven't been around for at least the last decade.
[09:59] <anonymous2>  nnkk
[09:59] <anonymous2> h8
[09:59] <anonymous2> hi
[10:00] <anonymous2> kis
[10:00] <TJ-> killall: "http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/" is a sym-link to the latest release directory, so use "http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso"
[10:01] <Endrej> witam !
[10:01] <Endrej> EXIT
[10:01] <Endrej> KURWA
[10:01] <killall> TJ-:  better than nothing :) still not 100% what i needed (when 15.04 it not be trusty but something else) and link will broke)
[10:05] <EiriksHDD> if i kill unity it will restart right?
[10:08] <vitimiti> hi
[10:09] <cojack> Hello, ubuntu font miss one char in Polish language, where I should make an post about this bug?
[10:10] <cojack> missing*
[10:10] <cfhowlett> cojack, polish translation team
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !pl
[10:11] <minimec> cojack: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family --> 'Report a bug' on the right side of the page...
[10:11] <cojack> ehhh polish channel about ubuntu suck as hell
[10:12] <cojack> minimec: thx dude
[10:15] <nispr0> hello, how can I update bash on ubuntu 12.10?
[10:15] <nispr0> it fails to feetch update
[10:16] <cfhowlett> nispr0, 12.10 is LONG since end of life, no longer supported.  upgrade
[10:16] <jra____> long?
[10:16] <nispr0> cfhowlett: so I guess my only option is to compile it?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> nispr0, ... why would you compile for a system that gets no security updates?  but yes, you could compile
[10:18] <k1l> nispr0: you dont get security updates. so your only option is to get a supported ubunut release
[10:18] <nispr0> fuck
[10:18] <k1l> so the latest bash exploit is not your only problem right now
[10:19] <cfhowlett> nispr0, language.  bash exploit is not your only OR your biggest problem.
[10:19] <xorred> apt-get upgrade finds no updates, but shows I am still vulnerable to the bash vulnerability?
[10:19] <k1l> xorred: which ubuntu version?
[10:19] <xorred>  < this > env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[10:19] <cfhowlett> xorred, cat /etc/issue        shows what???
[10:20] <xorred> 13.10
[10:20] <cfhowlett> xorred, also unsupported.  upgrade.  you're getting no security updates
[10:20] <k1l> xorred: 13.10 doesnt get any updates anymore. please update first to 14.01
[10:20] <k1l> *14.04
[10:20] <xorred> wow!
[10:21] <k1l> guys, if you dont want to upgrade a long time stay with the LTS releases. the get 5 years support without upgrading
[10:21] <k1l> !away > mulga|
[10:22] <xorred> what's the command to upgrade? all howtos I find are for gui
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !lts | xorred nispr0
[10:22] <k1l> xorred: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[10:22] <xorred> oh thanks
[10:22] <xorred> k1l
[10:28] <abuz_> hello
[10:28] <abuz_> is there a way to build a minimal ubuntu from scratch? like debootstrap on debian
[10:29] <k1l> !debootstrap | abuz_
[10:29] <bazhang> !mini
[10:31] <abuz_> oh nice
[10:31] <abuz_> and after I build it, how can I create a bootable disk from that?
[10:35] <mattymo> anyone here an expert on preseed? I'm trying to figure out if I can set a retry if it fails to download preconfiguration file
[10:39] <ringarin> i removed some files from /boot because it was full when i did apt-get upgrade; now i get unsatisfied dependencies but "apt-get -f install" won't solve them
[10:39] <nullbyte_> !gnome
[10:40] <nullbyte_> !ubuntu-gnome
[10:41] <nullbyte_> how to install gnome latest, in ubuntu
[10:42] <karab44> hello everyone
[10:42] <k1l> !find gnome-shell
[10:43] <k1l> nullbyte_: you will need a PPA if you want another version than this
[10:43] <k1l> !info gnome-shell
[10:43] <nullbyte_> yes i am searching PPA
[10:43] <nullbyte_> how can i check this
[10:43] <karab44> I have a problem that my mouse cursor got bigger and nautilus font size is big and in windows I can't get into title menu. It won't appear. I changed some display settings but that didn't help.
[10:44] <nullbyte_> which website
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> know this isnt a gaming channel but have cs:s installed on my lenovo and the game works good but the colours are dark going to additional drivers says i have nothing
[10:44] <Psil0Cybin> if  ihave a lenovo is there amybe drivers i can get else where google was no help
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:03] <urielvigilant> There`s some trust and easy Lubuntu app to spread and share with password,  my 4G Lte internet coonection Usb, via Wifi in my lap top ?
[11:05] <k1l> urielvigilant: from what device to what device?
[11:06] <k1l> urielvigilant: to make a wifi hotsport just use networkmanager
[11:07] <PaulVern> j #virtualbox
[11:09] <freite> any idea why btrfs seems to think a device is mounted "/dev/sdb2 is mounted" when i try to add it to a btrfs filesystem...tried dd if=/dev/zero for a bit but btrfs still seem to think it's "mounted"
[11:09] <Caroga> TJ-, you here m8 ?
[11:10] <TJ-> Caroga: Only just
[11:10] <Caroga> Ah okey, I dont see join/part messages.
[11:10] <Caroga> Just wanted to thank you once again for last nights help. I got my server up and running and my LVM configured.
[11:11] <zasif> i seem to have a problem
[11:12] <zasif> the server has disconnected
[11:12] <Caroga> TJ-, I ended up making a vg-cable-os (70GB mirror) with logical volumes for /root /home and swap and vg-cable-cloud (4TB mirror) for /cloud/media.
[11:13] <tarelerulz> I have this problem all the time , I can't install somethign because It can't install the correct packages.  How do you  re-do your package lists so what every errors you someone put it are not there any more
[11:13] <Caroga> tarelerulz, try "sudo apt-get update" first
[11:15] <tarelerulz> I still get the same thing
[11:16] <Guest26113> hello
[11:16] <TJ-> Caroga: That sounds like a good configuration. The only thing I'd have added (or subtracted actually!) would be to not allocate more than 80% of each VG to LVs - keeping the remainder in reserve for snapshots (think online backup) and other requirements in the future
[11:16] <tarelerulz> I'm dumb , I just add the ppa and the whole point is getting netflix working.   It must have the need package s
[11:17] <TJ-> tarelerulz: Maybe the packages the primary package depends on are in a component of the archives that isn't enabled - such as universe and multiverse, or the partner repository
[11:18] <tesertx> what does it mean when inputting $ env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" into desktop ubuntu 12.04 gives you ''this is a test'' but not ''vulnerable this is a test''?
[11:18] <urielvigilant> k1l    from my laptop with an pen USb modem 4G LTE, to share from my wi fi BCM 4311, to a Nokia E 63
[11:18] <tarelerulz> I thought the whole point of pps is to have all the packages need for  say the netflix app.  Why would I need something other repository enabled?
[11:18] <j0hnskot> anyone can help me disable the "joined/left" messages from xchat?
[11:19] <k1l> j0hnskot: right click on the channel in channel tree, settings, hide join/part
[11:19] <TJ-> tesertx: It means the shell you're using isn't vulnerable to CVE-2014-6271
[11:19] <k1l> urielvigilant: use networkmanager
[11:19] <j0hnskot> oh thank you!
[11:20] <k1l> !usn | tesertx
[11:20] <urielvigilant> k1l can i install it from Ubuntu softare center or in console ?
[11:20] <j0hnskot> k1l, is thjere a way to make those settings global?
[11:21] <urielvigilant> kl1  doesnt network manager already come with Lubuntu? How to do that on it ?
[11:21] <TJ-> tarelerulz: The Ubuntu archives has 4 primary components, "main" "universe" "multiverse" and "restricted", each of which can be separately enabled. It may be the PPA package depends on another package in one of the Ubuntu archive components that your system doesn't have enabled. Other than that, check on where the required but missing package should come from
[11:22] <CORE-Net> hi,, my machine had a disk which had windows partition and Ubuntu.. the disk got damaged, and i want to try to retrieve some data using ddrescue from the ubuntu partition!!!..but i have a problem in identifying the correct disk after i have connected using USB..can anyone assist me!!!
[11:22] <tesertx> TJ: all the guides say that for it to not be vulnerable I should get ''bash: wearning: x: ignoring function definition attempt bash: error importing function definition for x. TJ do you think it doesn't appear because I don't have reporting enabled on terminal?
[11:22] <mohamad-f> hello, im new to nodejs programming. what free IDE can i use in ubuntu 14.04?
[11:22] <xorred> CORE-Net
[11:23] <k1l> urielvigilant: its already used in ubuntu. just click on the wifi symbol in tray
[11:23] <k1l> j0hnskot: dont know
[11:23] <TJ-> tesertx: I'm not sure, but you're correct that you should see those warnings
[11:23] <CORE-Net> yes xorred
[11:23] <k1l> tesertx: why dont you just get the updates from ubuntu and be happy?
[11:24] <TJ-> tesertx: check the installed package version ("apt-cache policy bash"); the fixed version is "4.2-2ubuntu2.2"
[11:24] <xorred> CORE-Net download hirens' bootable cd and run minixp from it, then there are dozens of data recovery tools
[11:24] <rhct> I need help with pptp on ubuntu 14.04 : I am not able to auth more then 2 users on pptp server from one static public ip, from oother remote locations no problem, can any one tell me where to increase the limit of multiple client connections from one single public ip ?
[11:24] <xorred> CORE-Net you can find it on tpb
[11:24] <tesertx> k1!: well I did but both before and after the updates I get the same result so I don't know what to think. I would be surprised if this pre update 12.04 wasn't vulnerable even though all the reports say it is.
[11:25] <tesertx> TJ: ok i'll check it, how?
[11:25] <tesertx> ah yes I see one second
[11:25] <CORE-Net> xorred, im able to read the widows partitions, but not ubutnu's!!!
[11:25] <xorred> all the same
[11:25] <xorred> you can do data retrieval on any broken partition using data recovery tools
[11:25] <TJ-> tesertx: Are you sure that 'bash' is really "/bin/bash" and not some sym-link to an alternate shell, or the restricted shell?
[11:25] <xorred> most are paid... though
[11:26] <Caroga> TJ-, sounds like good advice, maybe ill resize it to that configuration as well
[11:26] <CORE-Net> so no way to do it using ddrescue??
[11:27] <TJ-> CORE-Net: "/var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/kern.log" will show the connected devices; you should be able to ID the target device from the kernel messages recorded in the log
[11:27] <Caroga> TJ-, but currently i cannot, since im leaving to germany (oktoberfest!!) this evening.
[11:27] <TJ-> Caroga: You can always resize/shrink later :)
[11:28] <tesertx> TJ: No i'm not sure, all I did was sudo -s then from there copied the query
[11:28] <TJ-> CORE-Net: once you have the ID of the device, you can use dd-rescue with the device as target
[11:28] <tesertx> TJ: well I've done the policy check and it's been done correctly
[11:29] <tesertx> TJ: how would I make sure I'm checking the correct bash? I have another non updated yet ubuntu I can play around with.
[11:30] <TJ-> tesertx: Use the absolute path to the executable "/bin/bash"
[11:31] <TJ-> tesertx: "which bash" will tell you the path being used when a PATH search is done
[11:31] <tesertx> TJ: so to make the check I should do sudo -s then cd /bin/bash?
[11:32] <TJ-> tesertx: Also you can do "$(which bash) --version"
[11:32] <TJ-> tesertx: You don't need sudo
[11:32] <newlin> hi
[11:32] <starbuck> hi, i can't uninstall a package on debian 7.6 (mubmle-django) - what can i do to get rid of it completely?
[11:32] <starbuck> http://paste.debian.net/123000/
[11:33] <TJ-> tesertx: Using "sudo -s" may be why you don't see the problem
[11:33] <BobBall> Is it possible to use debootstrap to include things from trusty-updates?  Or do I have to build with trusty and then dist-upgrade in the chroot?
[11:35] <urielvigilant> What kind of connection i should choose, when using Networkmanager to creat a new wifi connection to share my Pen usb 4G Lte internet trought out my laptop wife bcm4311 to a Nokia E 63 in Lubuntu 14.4.1
[11:35] <newlin> are movie subtitles generated auto by softwares or manually?
[11:35] <TJ-> tesertx: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8424879/
[11:36] <TJ-> urielvigilant: "Wireless (Shared)"
[11:38] <tesertx> TJ: Well I don't know what I was doing previously because on this machine the error is showing like it should, thanks for your help TJ :), also it shows it both in root and user
[11:42] <tarelerulz> I looked up what netflix app need  I seem to have it.  Why would not not install  than
[11:43] <newlin> no answer?
[11:44] <urielvigilant> TJ- i dont have that optin for sure here ! iam using lubuntu 14.4.1
[11:46] <milad1512> Can a VPN be build with ubuntu ?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !openvpn | milad1512,
[11:46] <urielvigilant> TJ- i have Ethernet , DSL , Infiniband, Wimax, wi-fi, wide band mobile, and then VIrtual, Bridge and Vlan
[11:48] <urielvigilant> Tj- if i choose Wifi, then i can choose mode Shared or ahdoc ?
[11:48] <urielvigilant> Tj-  retify if i choose Wifi, then i can choose mode infraesrutered or ahdoc ?
[11:51] <CORE-Net> TJ-: im able to see the partition in ddrescue GUI..and also able to see the files to be copied but what to do next?? btw i was not able to get the device ID from the logs!!
[11:52] <TJ-> urielvigilant: It seems to depend on the window manager as to which Network Manager setting tool is used; nm-applet (Gnome) and plasma-nm (KDE) for example
[11:52] <urielvigilant> my window manager dont give me that option .
[11:52] <urielvigilant> what can i do ?
[11:52] <TJ-> CORE-Net: dd-rescue needs a destination as large as the source, in order to copy recovered data to.
[11:53] <urielvigilant> Tj- how to do it on the console?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !nfo stills2dv
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !find stills2dv
[11:53] <TJ-> urielvigilant: Create a connection manually using the information in "man 5 nm-settings"
[11:55] <CORE-Net> so i cant copy the files using this method??
[11:55] <urielvigilant> TJ- where ? iam to newby please explain me where i found that information " man 5 nm-settings" " google this keywordds»
[11:56] <cfhowlett> urielvigilant, open a terminal.  run the command:        man 5 nm-settings
[11:59] <TJ-> urielvigilant: I created a basic connection definition here which you should be able to use as the basis for your own shared connection configuration: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8424994/
[12:01] <sample64> ciao
[12:01] <sample64> !lista
[12:02] <fujio> Um, does ubuntu have selinux already implemented?
[12:02] <TJ-> fujio: Ubuntu uses Apparmor in preference to SELinux policies
[12:02] <fujio> Um
[12:03] <fujio> Didn't know ubuntu uses SELinux already
[12:03] <fujio> Thanks for assuring
[12:04] <Ben64> fujio: its not selinux
[12:05] <fujio> Ah I see, AppArmor is the easier version of SELInux
[12:06] <Ben64> fujio: it isn't selinux though
[12:07] <fujio> If I disable AppArmor I won't create any vulnerabilities. By disabeling it I would be as secure as Debian Wheezy (which doesn't come with apparmor), right?
[12:08] <BluesKaj> fujio, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
[12:11] <snufft> hi guys
[12:12] <snufft> i have a bunch of sites on a vps and i want to route all of their email through the one smtp server. is there a way that i can do that at he server level, or do i have to do SMTP auth for every site individually?
[12:12] <snufft> (and yes, they're all going to the same SMTP server)
[12:12] <tesertx> TJ: what was the command you told me before to check the version of bash?
[12:13] <TJ-> tesertx: "$(which bash) --version"
[12:13] <Thumpxr> How can i determinate which drivers i should use for my GPU ?
[12:13] <fujio> Oh "Disable one profile" in apparmor doesn't mean that I omit that profile from apparmor rules, but it means it blocks the profile completly
[12:13] <snufft> Thumpxr, try them all :)
[12:14] <Thumpxr> snufft: *caught* really?
[12:14] <snufft> Thumpxr, i think I had a choice of about 4 different drivers, so I tried them all :P
[12:15] <tesertx> TJ: what was the correct bash to have? I think I've forgotten
[12:15] <fujio> Can youconfirm if my assumption was right?
[12:15] <tesertx> TJ: Oh I see what's wrong I'm thinking of something else, I'm trying to find the latest update for ubuntu to check if its in the last update
[12:15] <Thumpxr> snufft: Okay.. Btw, with GPU do you have ? AMD 7970?
[12:16] <snufft> Thumpxr, haha! how did you know?
[12:16] <tesertx> TJ: And this is not it. Would you mind repeating to me what the command for that was and what's the latest for ubuntu 12.04? thanks
[12:16] <Thumpxr> snufft: I have the same. So i hoped :D
[12:16] <tarelerulz> I'm trying to install netflix  Ubuntu.  It keeps saying  I need wine  sliver light installer .  The only wine I can find is meta package  not the version I get from the ppa
[12:16] <MrQuist> You all aware of the bash remote code injection ?
[12:17] <Thumpxr> snufft: Can you tell me which driver you actually use ?
[12:17] <MrQuist> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/24/bash_shell_vuln/
[12:17] <kostkon> tarelerulz, you can just use chrome
[12:17] <cfhowlett> MrQuist, yes, rather hard to miss it.
[12:17] <kostkon> MrQuist, already fixed
[12:17] <MrQuist> just a heads up for people who didn't know yet :)
[12:17] <kostkon> tarelerulz, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/ubuntu-rolls-updated-nss-library-native-linux-netflix-support
[12:17] <snufft> Thumpxr, i'm using flgrx proprietary :)
[12:18] <fujio> How can I disable apparmor temporary?
[12:18] <snufft> fglrx*
[12:18] <tarelerulz> kostkon , I  don't get how I add the ppa and yet when I look for the wine its said to install I don't find anything in the package manger page
[12:18] <fujio> Not sure if sudo invoke-rc.d apparmor kill is killing it persistent or temp
[12:18] <BluesKaj> tarelerulz, you need chrome or chromium v37 to run netflix in HTML5 for it to work without wine and silverlight
[12:18] <Thumpxr> snufft: Thanks
[12:19] <kostkon> BluesKaj, only chrome. chromium lacks EME
[12:19] <snufft> Thumpxr, np. the only game i've really tested it with is Serious Sam 3 and Bastion. i had the most success with that one. I've never really been able to make the eyefinity work, but it's been a while since I've tried, so it might be better now. g/l!
[12:20] <BluesKaj> kostkon, ok, wonder why it's lacking EME, that's odd
[12:20] <tarelerulz> so BluesKaj  do you use the link you just gave me?
[12:20] <kostkon> BluesKaj, i'm guessing because it's purely foss and eme is all about drm
[12:21] <Thumpxr> snufft: i dont use eyefinity, have only 2 screens on my desk, so i go for the normal config. need to play cs:go @ competition level.. so a must is 150+fps and no stuttering :) also need profiles when i watch movies on my TV so change from Screen 1&2 to 2&3 :)
[12:21] <MrQuist> Bash: env x='() { :;}; echo hax' bash -c "echo testin"
[12:21] <ge0rJey> how do i install pepper flash for chromium such that it can only be called manually when i launch with required parameters for chromium
[12:22] <tesertx> hey anyone here know where hydra irc stores its chat logs?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> tarelerulz, I just read about this a few mins ago, and kostkon posted the link...I haven't tried netflix on ubuntu personally
[12:23] <tarelerulz> If I understanding this correct if I update to 14.04 with its new chrome I could use netflix  not hacks , no compile or anything like that?
[12:23] <snufft> Thumpxr, I remember pushing about 80fps on somewhere near max settings in SSam3, so CS:Go should be fine at 150 :) Don't remember having any stuttering either. good luck! :)
[12:24] <kostkon> tarelerulz, you don't need to upgade to 14.04
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ge0rJey, just install pepperflashplugin-nonfree from the repos
[12:24] <kostkon> tarelerulz, you only need to install chrome
[12:24] <tesertx> How do I check that ubuntu has updated to the latest package?
[12:24] <BluesKaj> tarelerulz, make sure chrome beta version 37+
[12:25] <cfhowlett> tesertx, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:25] <kostkon> BluesKaj, i think it also works with stable now
[12:26] <Thumpxr> snufft: Thanks :) may i report when i tested it. But takes some days, as i installed ubuntu just yesterday along windows. And before i remove Win from my disk, all my programs must work :)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> the tutorial I just read insisted that chrome v37 is required, kostkon
[12:26] <kostkon> BluesKaj, hmm, ok
[12:28] <tesertx> cfhowlett: does dist-upgrade update ubuntu version?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> kostkon, tarelerulz http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[12:29] <tesertx> Actually I'm looking for the latest update as in security update against vulnerabilities I'm using ubuntu desktop
[12:29] <cfhowlett> tesertx, 14.04 >>> 14.04.1       it will NOT upgrade to the next ubuntu release
[12:30] <tesertx> cfhowlett: i'm on 12.04 not sure which but about that
[12:30] <cfhowlett> tesertx, 12.04?    latest release is 12.04.4 so you're behind the times ...
[12:30] <k1l> dist-upgrade is for packages that actually need to install other packages
[12:30] <cfhowlett> tesertx, 12.04.5
[12:30] <tesertx> 12.04.5 exists?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !12.04
[12:31] <hdtune2k> hi
[12:31] <tesertx> How do I check which version I'm on?
[12:31] <k1l> tesertx: "lsb_release -d"
[12:31] <hash23> hi, I am not able to configure ubuntu cloud using 'https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/05/21/ubuntu-cloud-documentation-14-04lts/' , please help , Thanks in advance.
[12:31] <cfhowlett> tesertx, cat /etc/issue              in  a  terminal will tell you
[12:35] <hdtune2k> hi
[12:37] <EriC^^> hello hdtune2k
[12:56] <_shaun_> hi guys when i run python and do some copy and pastes, then after a while the text i type wraps back to the start of that line instead of going to the next line, how do i resolve this?
[12:58] <_shaun_>  the problem is when i type a line it wraps back to the start of that line and the text that was there previously gets overwritten. i need it to wrap to a newline
[12:59] <facepalm> Have you tried asking in #python
[12:59] <worm`> hi I would like to resize a partition, how to do it?
[12:59] <worm`> without booting on CD or USB if possible
[12:59] <cfhowlett> !gparted | worm`
[13:00] <k1l> worm`: you cant resize partitions you are using
[13:00] <_shaun_> the guys in #python suggested i raise my query here in ubuntu
[13:00] <cfhowlett> worm`, DO NOT change partitions in a mounted system.  don't.
[13:00] <k1l> worm`: so which one do you want to resize?
[13:00] <worm`> I have a partition for Windows too, what if I resize this one when I'm running Linux?
[13:01] <worm`> while I'm running Linux*
[13:01] <cfhowlett> worm`, windows will demand a chkdsk next you boot and life will go on.
[13:01] <k1l> worm`:  you can resize the windows partition while using windows. it got an own utility in the disk settings from windows
[13:02] <k1l> !away > WhiteWolf
[13:02] <worm`> k1l: I wasn't aware of that
[13:02] <hash23> hi, I am not able to configure ubuntu cloud using 'https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/05/21/ubuntu-cloud-documentation-14-04lts/' , please help , Thanks in advance.
[13:03] <pbx> i'm guessing my chances of getting this running under WINE are next to nil. what do you think? http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=4435
[13:03] <ztane> I need to fill in some pdf forms, which program works?
[13:03] <k1l> worm`: but as always: when you touch partitions, better have a backup
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ztane, evince
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ztane, evince will view.  gimp will edit
[13:03] <ztane> seems that abode pulled out linux version
[13:03] <cfhowlett> ztane, also inkscape
[13:03] <ztane> no, I just want to fill in form
[13:03] <ztane> grrr :D
[13:03] <k1l> !wine | pbx see the appdb
[13:04] <ztane> pdftk would fill in forms yes... really no gui?
[13:04] <worm`> k1l: from Windows 7 control panel or something? what google search should I make? I'm a bit confused sorry
[13:04] <cfhowlett> ztane, somewhat ...
[13:04] <pbx> k1l, thanks.  looks like it kinda might work. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=27222
[13:05] <k1l> worm`: yes in the control setting somewhere inside the disk stuff. "windows resize partition" should lead to a better description. or ask in ##windows
[13:05] <worm`> k1l: sorry got disconnected t.t
[13:06] <simpleuser> Hi there. My headphones worked before, but since I rebooted, nothing. Any idea what I could check ?
 worm`: yes in the control setting somewhere inside the disk stuff. "windows resize partition" should lead to a better description. or ask in ##windows
[13:06] <ztane> ah found link to adobe reader somewhere
[13:06] <EriC^^> worm`: go to the control panel , type in the search partition or disks
[13:06] <worm`> Alright thank you
[13:07] <simpleuser> simpleuser: Ahum. Answer to myself, it was in mute mode. Don’t know why.
[13:11] <Ace78> Greetings. I have a problem with printers.conf. I am cloning an installation to another hw and replace printers.conf before boot. Unfortunately ubuntu seems to have another location to store the information. After boot the printers.conf ist automatically restored to its old state.
[13:12] <philinux> Is there a bash patch out yet for shellshock
[13:12] <k1l> !usn | philinux
[13:12] <k1l> yes there is.
[13:13] <philinux> k1l;~ looks like i got the latest bash
[13:14] <philinux> Installed: 4.3-7ubuntu1.1
[13:15] <k1l> yes. there might be another patch in next days but this is the best fix known yet
[13:16] <philinux> k1l;~ pays to be up to date
[13:17] <k1l> yep. you see some users coming here and complaining they dont get an update while they use EOL releases. so it really pays to be uptodate or stay with LTS
[13:19] <algorithm> .
[13:32] <xcyclonix> passwords
[13:32] <xcyclonix> lol
[13:33] <JoeyJoeJo> What is the specific package that I need to update for the new BASH vulerability?
[13:34] <k1l> JoeyJoeJo: just run the updates.
[13:36] <thurstylark> If I want to make a full disk backup to a file, then restore it on a new disk, how should I go about that?
[13:37] <blackangelpr> thurstylark, if you mean a actual copy of your whole hdd you can use clonezilla
[13:38] <thurstylark> that sounds like exactly what I need...
[13:38] <thurstylark> thanks, blackangelpr
[13:38] <blackangelpr> welcome
[13:39] <Grimlock1182> guys, can i edit menu button in ubuntu 14.04?
[13:39] <polikit> To test BASH use this: http://goo.gl/r7Er9Q
[13:39] <thurstylark> Grimlock1182: What are you wanting to edit?
[13:40] <thurstylark> polikit: ooh. Thanks for the link.
[13:40] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, i just want to place my menu button to the left is that possible
[13:40] <calimero_82> ih
[13:40] <calimero_82> hi
[13:41] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, i want to edit the position of clock, emnu button and etc.. in panel is that possible
[13:42] <philinux> JoeyJoeJo;~ test with this. apt-cache policy bash  -patched version is >>Installed: 4.3-7ubuntu1.1
[13:42] <thurstylark> Grimlock1182: Are you using Unity? That's the default, and I don't think it can move it's menu bar...
[13:43] <BQ> does ubuntu support birectional links to files?
[13:43] <philinux> Grimlock1182;~ menu button?
[13:43] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, ubuntu 14.04 cinnamon
[13:44] <BQ> bidirectional
[13:44] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr LOL
[13:46] <thurstylark> Grimlock1182: Ahh. So, the question is "How do I move the menu bar to the left side in cinnamon on 14.04"
[13:46] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, i mean the menu button where login and shutdown, about this computer is there, iwant to move that icon gear to the left
[13:47] <hash23> hi, I am not able to configure ubuntu cloud using 'https://insights.ubuntu.com/2014/05/21/ubuntu-cloud-documentation-14-04lts/' , please help , Thanks in advance.
[13:47] <Grimlock1182> thurstylark, sorry for the confusing, i mean im using  ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr
[13:48] <maxvi> how can I convert dxf to png/jpg via console?
[13:48] <Turingi> hi, is there a guide somewhere to setting fan speeds on an AMD card (ubuntu 14.04LTS and the default 'radeon' drivers). Because it's called 'radeon' and not something more distinctive, googling for help on it is rather... difficult.
[13:48] <Turingi> perhaps a GUI tool
[13:50] <helmut_> hi
[13:53] <thurstylark> I'm moving to a new SSD in my machine. If I install Ubuntu fresh with a partition set aside for my home, can I move my home before I install, and point the user creation step there?
[13:54] <coinswap-ian> hello, how to patch for shell shock on 13.10?
[13:54] <Peng> Is there a CVE-2014-7169 ETA?
[13:54]  * Peng jumps
[13:55] <k1l> coinswap-ian: just upgrade to 14.04. 13.10 doesnt get any security updates so shellshock is not your only problem
[13:55] <k1l> !usn | Peng
[13:57] <coinswap-ian> k1l: thanks
[13:57] <rusununguko> what email client works best with gpg? (read: none of my
[13:57] <rusununguko> 	      recipients will complain about attachments etc. or having
[13:57] <rusununguko> 	      issues? )
[13:57] <rusununguko> a lot of people i might email will be using anything from mutt
[13:57] <rusununguko> 	      to outlook to gnus etc
[13:57] <rusununguko> multiple lines, my apologies
[13:57] <rusununguko> it's an issue with my client and spacing
[13:59] <foo357> Hello, what's the latest on the bash vurnerability?
[13:59] <Peng> k1l: So, no. Status as of six hours ago, "I ... will publish them once the fix has been made official."
[13:59] <maxvi> how can I convert png/jpg to bmp to use it with potrace?
[13:59] <Peng> Which makes it a bash question, I guess.
[13:59] <cfhowlett> maxvi, imagemagick
[14:00] <cfhowlett> maxvi, or GIMP
[14:00] <rusununguko> if you want to do batch conversion, imagemagick
[14:00] <k1l> Peng: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages  its waiting for bash, right
[14:01] <Peng> k1l: I guess so. That's what he said six hours ago.
[14:04] <jobs> hello
[14:04] <Daydream> quit
[14:05] <newone005> usage : kill [ -s signal | -p ] [ -a ] pid ..
[14:05] <newone005> i'm getting that on my server please help
[14:05] <newone005> usage : kill [ -s signal | -p ] [ -a ] pid ..
[14:06] <snufft> i have a machine with a few different sites on it and I would like to send all email from each site, though the same SMTP server. is there a way that I can configure the machine to send all email through one place (say, via sendmail?) or hsould I configure each site to use phpmailer() or something like that?
[14:06] <snufft> i've been googling smtp through sendmail for a while now and have found soooooo many conflicting guides that I'm not sure which one to follow
[14:06] <newone005> any one
[14:06] <newone005> please help
[14:06] <newone005> this message is flooding my screen
[14:06] <snufft> and at the same time, i'm not even sure that they're aimed at doing what I want todo anyway
[14:07] <newone005> usage : kill [ -s signal | -p ] [ -a ] pid ..
[14:07] <newone005> usage : kill [ -s signal | -p ] [ -a ] pid ..
[14:07] <jpds> newone005: You patched your bash?
[14:07] <newone005> how to patch it ?
[14:07] <jpds> newone005: Do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[14:07] <newone005> did it
[14:08] <cfhowlett> newone005, apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:08] <newone005> i have ubuntu 14.04
[14:08] <newone005> so i'm infected with shellshock bash ?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> newone005, ? current version is 14.04.1       sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:11] <clyfe> how can I install sqlite3  v 3.8.6-1 on my 14.04 ?
[14:11] <clyfe> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sqlite3
[14:11] <clyfe> currently I have 3.8.2
[14:12] <Scrix0> Hello, could anyone assist me with setting up nfs id mapping?
[14:16] <cgi> hello ubuntu users
[14:21] <somsip> !info sqlite | clyfe
[14:21] <somsip> !info sqlite3 | clyfe
[14:22] <somsip> clyfe: looks like 3.8.2 is current. So you'd have to go to unofficial sources
[14:22] <somsip> !ppa | clyfe (like these)
[14:26] <juice23> I have a question about Canonicals support policy for Ubuntu server. I have a content management system dependent on php 5.2. Does Canonical support php 5.2 still even though PHP 5.2 is discontinued upstream?
[14:26] <cfhowlett> !server | juice23 best ask the server channel
[14:32] <gdoteof_> i am on 12.04 on my laptop, after doing an update/upgrade it seems like i am still vulnerable to this bash thing
[14:32] <gdoteof_> i would have assume this would be patched already
[14:32] <arcsky> how do i fix this bash bug in Ubuntu ?
[14:32] <somsip> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y bash
[14:33] <somsip> arcsky: gdoteof_ ^^
[14:33] <arcsky> somsip: how do i check if my system are vulnerable  ?
[14:34] <somsip> arcsky: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[14:34] <somsip> arcsky: if you see errors, you're ok. If you just see two lines of text, you're vulnerable
[14:34] <arcsky> somsip: sudo ?
[14:34] <tesertx> whats the version number of the patched ubuntu?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> tesertx, 14.04.1
[14:35] <somsip> tesertx: for which version of ubuntu?
[14:35] <tesertx> 12.04.5
[14:35] <somsip> arcsky: no need for the test
[14:35] <somsip> tesertx:      bash 4.2-2ubuntu2.2
[14:35] <k1l> tesertx: that is all listed in the ubuntu security notice
[14:35] <k1l> !usn | tesertx
[14:35] <tesertx> somsip: thanks, whats the query to see what version i have?
[14:36] <k1l> tesertx: if you got a supported ubuntu release just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get all updates
[14:36] <somsip> k1l: or apt-get install -y bash to only pick up the new package
[14:37] <tesertx> k1: thanks i've got a desktop ubuntu so all i did was go to update manager
[14:37] <k1l> somsip: yes, but bash is not the only package that got security updates recently
[14:37] <somsip> tesertx: to previous question to find version: dpkg -s <packagename> | grep 'Version'
[14:37] <tesertx> but how can I check that I'm on bash 4.2-2?
[14:37] <ePax> I'm on 14.04 and i would like to have alsa equalizer so that i can ajust bass treble and so on. Does alsa have that?
[14:37] <gdoteof_> acrocity: i did that; and after running the test
[14:37] <tesertx> somsip and k1 ok thanks
[14:38] <gdoteof_> it is stillvulnerable
[14:38] <k1l> tesertx: you got a wrong impression of how that works.
[14:38] <gdoteof_> i also restarted, just for the sake of t
[14:38] <somsip> k1l: appreciate that but not everyone will want to do a full dist-upgrade for one package, especially when they ask specifically about the bash bug
[14:38] <gdoteof_> i don't want to dist-upgrade though
[14:39] <gdoteof_> after the upgrade i have GNU bash, version 4.2.25(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
[14:39] <k1l> tesertx: ubuntu ships a patched ubuntu version. it does not automatically go to a newer version number. just the package numbering will show its a newer package
[14:39] <k1l> so tesertx please read the USN if you are that interessted into it.
[14:39] <gdoteof_> what version should i have of bash if i am fixed?
[14:40] <somsip> gdoteof_: listed here by release of ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[14:40] <k1l> gdoteof_: see the package numbering
[14:40] <gdoteof_> hmmmm.. i see 4.2-2ubuntu2.2 on that page
[14:41] <gdoteof_> but i have e upgrade i have GNU bash, version 4.2.25(1)-release  (x86_64-pc
[14:41] <gdoteof_> which maybe means i am getting it from some other repository?
[14:41] <gdoteof_> i have done a lot of repository changing over time
[14:41] <polikit> linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
[14:41] <polikit> To test BASH use this: http://goo.gl/r7Er9Q
[14:41] <k1l> gdoteof_: apt-cache policy bash
[14:42] <gdoteof_> http://lpaste.net/111623
[14:43] <DigitalFriends> Yolo
[14:44] <k1l> gdoteof_: yes, that is the not patched version. which you would know if you would have taken a look into the USN i told you 3rd time now
[14:44] <gdoteof_> k1l: i know it is not the patched version.  i have looked
[14:44] <gdoteof_> i have been on that page
[14:44] <gdoteof_> i have ran apt-get update/ apt-get upgrade and i still have the broken version
[14:44] <gdoteof_> and i know that part, i am tyring to figure out why, and thought maybe that linkw ould help
[14:44] <k1l> ok. then talk to the 3rd party repo maintainer or switch to ubuntu repos
[14:45] <gdoteof_> yeah i'd like to just switch to ubuntu repo for bash
[14:46] <k1l> gdoteof_: then dont complain you dont get security updates if you dont want to get them form ubuntu. its your choice
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i am not complaining!  i would LIKE TO SWITCH BACK TO UBUNTU
[14:46] <gdoteof_> you might have noticed i even said i had messed with my repos over time
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i recognize all of that
[14:46] <somsip> !ppa-purge | gdoteof_ (if you have installed bash from a PPA)
[14:46] <gdoteof_> i just want to fix the damn thing
[14:47] <digitalfriends> Hello
[14:48] <k1l> gdoteof_: this is a clean source.list https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list  (with us. servers, you can change the us. to your country if that is another)
[14:48] <gdoteof_> mirror.lstn.net is not official repos?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> digitalfriends, this isn't the social chitchat channel.  ask your ubuntu question or no one will talk to you.
[14:54] <w_> 大家好
[14:54] <StolenToast> I'm allergic to unicode
[14:54] <StolenToast> *sneeze
[14:54] <w_> 有中国人吗
[14:54] <somsip> !zh | w_
[14:54] <og01_> unicode is great!
[14:54] <skizu> If I sudo screen do I keep the user context in the screen?
[14:55] <w_> 谢谢
[14:55] <Sevet> does anyone know why git-buildpackage --git-pbuilder with cowbuilder would not be trying to install the build-depends dependancies?
[14:55] <Sevet> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 9)
[14:55] <somsip> skizu: that strikes me as being a bad idea. Just screen for a use and use sudo on a case by case basis
[14:55] <somsip> *a user
[14:56] <gdoteof_> skizu: in any case i believe you do
[14:56] <skizu> So su screen or sudo screen?
[14:56] <linux_> hello
[14:56] <og01_> I'm trying to update all my servers, I have a ubunutu trusty server that i've done apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on but it still has a vulnrable version of bash and sh installed, perhaps i'm missing the source list for the security update? what should it be?
[14:56] <somsip> skizu: screen, then sudo when you need to from within screen
[14:56] <skizu> I can't screen with sudo
[14:56] <skizu> somsip: ^
[14:56] <gdoteof_> su screen will try and log you in as a user called screen; but somsip is right you should probably just use it case by case
[14:56] <k1l> skizu: just start screen. then use sudo if needed
[14:57] <Grimlock1182> I was wondering if there is a way to use custom system event sounds in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:57] <gdoteof_> or do inside the screen, 'sudo su' which will turn yo into root until you exit the shell
[14:58] <gdoteof_> k1l: somsip:  thanks i am now safe
[14:58] <k1l> gdoteof_: alright
[14:59] <skizu> Ah my issue was different, I can't screen -rd without sudo
[15:00] <somsip> gdoteof_: np
[15:01] <bitpimp> dell linux
[15:01] <bitpimp> omg… sorry… wrong window.
[15:04] <ckboss> hello
[15:04] <Kireji> update your bash everyone
[15:04] <Kireji> and then reboot
[15:05] <Kireji> if you want details, read sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth3 -j MASQUERADE
[15:05] <Kireji> oops
[15:05] <Kireji> read http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about.html
[15:06] <clouddig> Is this list a good place to ask questions about the openstack cloud-installer: http://ubuntu-cloud-installer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/single-installer.guide.html
[15:06] <thiocy> hi
[15:06] <ckboss> env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[15:07] <thiocy> i have a display problem with ubuntu. does anyone knows to help please?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !ask  | thiocy
[15:08] <StolenToast> !patience
[15:08] <information_poor> wich program is have a powerful for download
[15:08] <bazzzb> wget
[15:08] <thiocy> thanks. i have problem with my ubuntu 12.04. when i was normaly logged in from graphical interface, now when it start ups, it shows me tty1. and when i go cntrl alt F8 it shows only a cursor flashing
[15:08] <clouddig> Each time the cloud-installer tries to allocate a machine it produces the error
[15:08] <clouddig> [INFO] â¨ Waiting for a machine. Machines summary: 5 unknown (error: kvm container creation failed: exit statu1), 1 unknown
[15:09] <egsome> Does Ubuntu uses Dash or Bash ? I read that it uses Dash, but I found my terminal using a Bash shell ..
[15:09] <egsome> Actually I'm using XUbuntu
[15:09] <information_poor> bazzzb: but now im downloading 29kb/s, but there ise 10mb/s bandwitch
[15:09] <k1l> egsome: it uses bash for the user terminal. just run all updates and you will get the patches
[15:09] <StolenToast> ubottu: we could use one of those in a tracker channel I am in
[15:09] <StolenToast> oh
[15:10]  * facepalm  
[15:10] <egsome> k1l, Then, Where Dash is being used ?
[15:10] <StolenToast> i c wat u did thar
[15:10] <g4r37h> ubottu likes to claim he's a bot to make up for his low intelligence
[15:10] <k1l> egsome: for scripts that just refer to /bin/sh
[15:10] <og01_> Hi I have a ubuntu server 14.04 which seems to be completely uptodate, yet my bash version is still vulnrable, what could be wrong?
[15:11] <og01_> as a note this server has gone through many release upgrades in its lifetime
[15:11] <egsome> k1l, I think I got it, It depends on the Terminal application I use, and what shell does it choose, correct ?
[15:11] <k1l> og01_: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure all updates are done
[15:11] <jarchik> exit
[15:11] <og01_> k1l: these steps i have followed without error
[15:12] <k1l> egsome: yes, most scripts use /bin/sh (which is dash) and most user manually use bash
[15:12] <jarchik> quit
[15:12] <egsome> k1l, Yeah, Thanks for that.
[15:12] <k1l> og01_: "apt-cache policy bash" says what version is installed?
[15:13] <og01_> 4.3-6ubuntu1
[15:13] <og01_> k1l: ^
[15:13] <k1l> og01_: that is not good. 4.3-7ubuntu1.1  is the security patch version
[15:13] <ePax> I'm on 14.04 and i would like to have alsa equalizer so that i can ajust bass treble and so on. Does alsa have that?
[15:13] <k1l> og01_: please pastebin the apt-cache  output
[15:14] <og01_> k1l: sure
[15:15] <cgi> hello guys. how can i install plugins in vim where some tutorials point me to to ~./vim folder and in ubuntu 14.04 theirs no more ~./vim. I also create my own ~/.vim folder and put the plugins but no luck and its not working. Can anyone point me how to install plugins in vim on ubuntu 14.04?
[15:15] <og01_> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8426096/
[15:16] <k1l> og01_: your mirror is way out of date. i would suggest to use a official ubuntu mirror
[15:16] <k1l> og01_: this is a clean source.list https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list  (with us. servers, you can change the us. to your country if that is another)
[15:17] <og01_> k1l: i see, i hadnt realised, i just did this on a dbeian server also
[15:18] <og01_> but in that case ther server was nolonger available so it was obvious to me
[15:18] <usr13> !info vim-scripts | cgi
[15:22] <apatheticsheep> howdy all - i just installed drivers for my geforce card on 14.04 and they don't seem to be playing nice.  looks like my Xserver doesn't want to load now and i also cannot get to another vt with alt+Fn  --- what do i do now?
[15:22] <og01_> k1l: out of interest according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors my mirror is up to date
[15:22] <skirlet> hey everyone, I just posted a help thread in linuxquestions.org re: my Ubuntu Software Center not functioning: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5244119#post5244119
[15:23] <thiocy> who knows how to reinstall x server?
[15:23] <thiocy> apt-get what?
[15:24] <bazzzb> thiocy: http://aruljohn.com/info/xwindow/
[15:24] <thiocy> thanks bazzzb
[15:26] <og01_> k1l: I just switched to another mirror (uptodate by that list) and I'm still not seing the latest packages
[15:26] <Janhouse> CVE-2014-7169 still not fixed?
[15:26] <k1l> the latest package come from the security repo
[15:27] <k1l> !usn | Janhouse see the usn notices. a first patch is shiped since yesterday
[15:27] <og01_> k1l: I'll check if its in my list
[15:27] <Janhouse> Well, the first patch is. Is there a second one?
[15:27] <apatheticsheep> how can i get ubuntu to boot with no X (aka runlevel 3)? like if my xserver is broken and I can alt+Fn to another VT
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> hello/
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> hello?
[15:28] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, ask your ubuntu questions
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> ok
[15:28] <k1l> Janhouse: the bash coders are working on a patch to make sure the whole issue is adressed. but their first patch is included into ubuntu already
[15:28] <xxKILLJ0Y> can i run Guild Wars 2 on Ubuntu without wine?
[15:29] <k1l> xxKILLJ0Y: well, does guild wars ship a linux client?
[15:29] <derFiet> hello I try to understand how to get mailman running with postfix on 14.04 LTS
[15:29] <xxKILLJ0Y> anybody?
[15:29] <Janhouse> k1l, if it doesn't fix it then it doesn't really make a big difference...
[15:29] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, does guild wars come on steam or publish a linux version?
[15:29] <k1l> Janhouse: it fixes it
[15:30] <derFiet> some sites say that its necessary to use the postfix_to_mailman.py script, others strongly discurage it
[15:30] <maxvi> which is best desktop app for google hangouts in ubuntu?
[15:30] <xxKILLJ0Y> say @hi@ if you can see my texts
[15:30] <kostkon> maxvi, your browser?
[15:30] <Janhouse> If it did then they wouldn't name it "inconclusive patch"
[15:30] <Janhouse> Meaning it doesn't really work.
[15:30] <Janhouse> And wouldn't make a CVE with score 10.
[15:30] <Janhouse> You see where I am going with this? :D
[15:30] <og01_> k1l: still no joy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8426198/
[15:31] <k1l> Janhouse: it fixes the exploits known yet. but there might be more exploits in that topic so there are more patches to come. but ubuntu includes them when the bash team releases them. so blame bash
[15:31] <og01_> k1l: please review make sure im not doing a stupid
[15:31] <xxKILLJ0Y> ping philinux
[15:31] <xxKILLJ0Y> lol
[15:31] <Janhouse> thx
[15:31] <xxKILLJ0Y> @-)
[15:31] <xxKILLJ0Y> does k1l mean me?
[15:31] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, does guild wars come on steam or publish a linux version?
[15:32] <xxKILLJ0Y> umm not that i know of
 xxKILLJ0Y: well, does guild wars ship a linux client?
[15:32] <xxKILLJ0Y> maybe
[15:32] <xxKILLJ0Y> maybe not
[15:32] <k1l> so, for windows games you need to use wine.
[15:32] <xxKILLJ0Y> WTF!!! damn u wine and producers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:32] <apatheticsheep> OK! I was able to boot to a recovery console using shift.  now ... how do i undo whatever it is that the geforce driver installation broke? it said it backed up my x config ... but where?
[15:33] <k1l> og01_: you could include the security repos.
[15:33] <ooloo> Okay, so I messes stuff up. I installed the gnome shell thing and it made deafult ubuntu's network indicator disappear and I don't know how to get it back
[15:33] <xxKILLJ0Y> is there anything easier 2 use than wine for GW2
[15:33] <og01_> k1l: is that not the ones at the end of the list?
[15:33] <ooloo> I have since uninstalled the gnome shell thing
[15:33] <kostkon> xxKILLJ0Y, Playonlinux
[15:33] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, all the emulator tools use wine so ...
[15:33] <xxKILLJ0Y> THNX!!!
[15:34] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ did you install nvidia-current
[15:34] <xxKILLJ0Y> THNX!!! U MADE MY DAY, BRO!!!
[15:34] <xxKILLJ0Y> wt is nvidia-current
[15:34] <k1l> og01_: make sure you exchange precise with trusty
[15:34] <xxKILLJ0Y> ???
[15:35] <philinux> nvidia-current is the stable nvidia driver
[15:35] <xxKILLJ0Y> ooooohhhhhhhh.             :-O
[15:35] <xxKILLJ0Y> lol
[15:35] <apatheticsheep> philinux I didn't install using apt - i got it from nvidia directly ... which was probably not the best choice
[15:35] <xxKILLJ0Y> i almost always use apt?
[15:36] <apatheticsheep> yea - i didn't realize that apt would have video drivers for geforce cards ... until just now
[15:36] <og01_> k1l: ah got it thanks
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> isthere any way to remotely control my macbook through my ubuntu 14.04
[15:36] <apatheticsheep> well yesterday sometime
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> ????
[15:36] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, bluetooth maybe
[15:36] <maxvi> kostkon: chromium
[15:36] <xxKILLJ0Y> dunno how 2 use bluetooth
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> with ubuntu/
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> ?*
[15:37] <BluesKaj> apatheticsheep,  always check the package manager for nvidia drivers first
[15:37] <og01_> k1l: when i added the security repos i failed, not sure why they wernt there in the first place
[15:37] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y VNC?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> xxKILLJ0Y, turn on BT.  turn on BT device.  link.  use.
[15:37] <JayJ_> Anybody have any pointers on how to slipstream a driver into Ubuntu PXE server? My server need a RAID driver to see the volumes
[15:37] <tesertx> how do i get the double quotations necessary for nix cli on a british keyboard?
[15:37] <xxKILLJ0Y> ok thnx again
[15:37] <og01_> k1l: perhaps lost during a release update
[15:37] <cfhowlett> JayJ_, might was to ask #ubuntu-server
[15:37] <k1l> og01_: i recommend to use the clean sources.list
[15:37] <JayJ_> thanks
[15:37] <JayJ_> cfhowlett: thanks
[15:38] <ooloo> If somebody does know how to return my wireless icon back to my toolbar, I'd be happy to know.
[15:38] <og01_> k1l: I will replace with yours, there were no unoffical in there in anycase
[15:39] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y - also i think yugma works for remote controller on a variety of platforms
[15:40] <apatheticsheep> xxKILLJ0Y and maybe teamviewer
[15:40] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ unless someone else has a better idea i'd do this in recovery.  sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[15:41] <xxKILLJ0Y> kool
[15:41] <apatheticsheep> philinux - I am trying just to install nvidia drivers from apt now - maybe it'll overwrite whatever the nvidia installer did
[15:41] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ http://askubuntu.com/questions/360761/cannot-get-rid-of-nvidia-drivers-restore-nouveau-driver-and-get-desktop-working
[15:41] <Williams> hola a todos
[15:42] <Williams> algun español por aqui¿?
[15:42] <k1l> !es | Williams
[15:42] <apatheticsheep> philinux - lol perfect thanks
[15:42] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ no need for the lightdm stop bit from recovery
[15:43] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ been there before a few times in the past
[15:43] <apatheticsheep> philinux - actually looks like just installing nvidia-304 using apt fixed it
[15:43] <apatheticsheep> it's a 9800gt that's why i am using 304
[15:44] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ a reboot will tell
[15:44] <faucon> any one using asus 1015e?
[15:44] <philinux> apatheticsheep;~ nvidia-current-updates would do
[15:44] <philinux> always more ways than one
[15:45] <milad1512> can ubuntu or it's terminal alone be used for hacking ?
[15:46] <apatheticsheep> milad1512 ... what?
[15:47] <milad1512> using terminal or anything in ubuntu to hack something
[15:47] <k1l> milad1512: we dont support malicious intentions in here
[15:47] <milad1512> a computer or a website
[15:47] <ooloo> milad1512, what kind of hacking do you mean?
[15:47] <milad1512> no don't get me wrong
[15:47] <ooloo> oh, that.
[15:47] <faucon> milad1512: ???
[15:48] <milad1512> i just wanna know if it's possible
[15:48] <milad1512> any kind of hacking
[15:48] <faucon> milad1512: anything is possible in linux ;-)
[15:48] <ooloo> good answer, faucon.
[15:48] <milad1512> you sure ?
[15:48] <jpds> milad1512: 1s and 0s.
[15:49] <ooloo> But my wireless icon is *still* gone! How do I get it back?
[15:49] <bazzzb> milad1512: you can even hack the pentagon from terminal
[15:49] <ooloo> Or even, how do I add icons to my toolbar?
[15:49] <philinux> any OS can be used for subversion
[15:49] <faucon> milad1512: 1s and 0s baby ohh yaah ;->
[15:50] <k1l> for the not ubuntu support related talking we got: #ubuntu-offtopic . thanks
[15:50] <benzhninja> http://www.neowin.net/news/the-surface-mini-was-real-and-i-got-to-play-with-one
[15:50] <k1l> ooloo: is the wifi working and just the indicator is gone?
[15:50] <philinux> ooloo;~ even after reboot still gone?
[15:50] <k1l> benzhninja: please dont spam links in here
[15:50] <milad1512> bazzzb . thanks
[15:51] <ooloo> k1l, I can manually go into network manager and it detects my wifi network, but I don't have the ability to connect on that machine.
[15:51] <ooloo> k1l, and yes, even after reboot it's still gone.
[15:52] <k1l> ooloo: what ubuntu is that exaclty? what did you do before it did disapear?
[15:52] <ooloo> I was hoping I could maybe just restore all default settings in ubuntu or something, like maybe that would do the trick
[15:52] <Williams> hola
[15:52] <ooloo> k1l, oh sorry, 14.4 LTS
[15:52] <Grimlock1182> guys, how to install weather forecast widget in ubuntu 14.04?
[15:52] <k1l> Grimlock1182: get my-weather-indicator
[15:52] <ooloo> k1l, I installed the gnome shell extension (big mistake).. and I got things mostly to normal after uninstalling it, but the network icon as disappeared
[15:53] <k1l> ooloo: so you are on gnome-shell?
[15:53] <Grimlock1182> kllthanks
[15:53] <ooloo> k1l, no, I uninstalled it
[15:54] <jere_> I just booted 14.04 Ubuntu.
[15:54] <jere_> But sudo apt-get install emacs24 not working
[15:54] <faucon> anyone having trouble connecting to LAN using ubuntu12.04LTS in asus 1015e
[15:55] <jere_> This is on Virtual Box and internet is working fine inside the guest.
[15:55] <k1l> ooloo: well. you could try to create another user and log into that to see if this is just a user setting
[15:55] <daftykins> jere_: are you sure that's a valid package? did you run apt-get update first?
[15:55] <daftykins> !info emacs24
[15:55] <ooloo> k1l, I'll see what that does.
[15:55] <faucon> why not compile emacs????
[15:56] <daftykins> faucon: we do not advise compilation in here, the official ubuntu way is to install packages first.
[15:56] <faucon> daftykins: sorry bro ;-)
[15:59] <thiocy> guys i need. help. can anyone with an ubuntu 12.04 print here the default lightdm.conf file? thanks
[16:05] <karmen> .
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> ... --- ...
[16:06]  * rww rescues SchrodingersScat 
[16:06] <daftykins> thiocy: one moment please
[16:06] <apatheticsheep> philinux - meh fugit - i am re-installing - it was a fresh install anyway
[16:07] <e-dard> Hi, if I want to upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04, do I just need to switch out raring to trusty in my sources.list and update/upgrade?
[16:07] <e-dard> (I know it's not supported officially)
[16:07] <e-dard> also, this is on a headless server
[16:07] <MadsRC> e-dard you need to do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <k1l> e-dard: no. you need to upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04
[16:07] <daftykins> MadsRC: dist-upgrade has nothing to do with upgrading release.
[16:07] <k1l> e-dard: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:08] <MadsRC> Oh yah, crap read that wrong :D
[16:08] <daftykins> thiocy: what's the location of this, for you?
[16:08] <e-dard> k1l: and then once it's done, do it all again to 14.04?
[16:08] <k1l> e-dard: yes
[16:08] <e-dard> k1l: ok,  thanks
[16:08] <k1l> e-dard: that is why we got LTS releases. so you can stay there for longer time and make a lts-lts upgrade (like 12.04 to 14.04)
[16:08] <daftykins> thiocy: oh my bad i was being an idiot, i don't have a desktop install of precise to find it, sorry
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf also. /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*.conf
[16:09] <e-dard> k1l: hmmm, not sure I wanna risk doing this over ssh
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: ok
[16:09] <e-dard> I might just spin up a fresh 14.04 box and migrate things over
[16:09] <thiocy> daftykins: no problem dude :)
[16:10] <daftykins> thiocy: you could grab them from a quick live session i guess?
[16:10] <k1l> e-dard: well,m your decision. but the upgrades get automated testing. so if you did not change a lot it should work. but as always: have backups for murphys law
[16:10] <e-dard> OK, so to solve my immediate problem - where can I get the patched version of bash for ubuntu 13.04?
[16:10] <e-dard> then I can just sort out a new box in a few days :)
[16:10] <thiocy> what d y mean?
[16:11] <k1l> e-dard: there is none. you will need to patch that yourselve
[16:11] <e-dard> k1l: hmmm, OK
[16:11] <k1l> (and you got other problems and vulnerabilities as well)
[16:12] <thiocy> daftykins: what d y mean?
[16:12] <Armadillos> So what's the best way to update the Nvidia driver in Ubuntu using a PPA? When I try to go from 340 to 343, it won't let me un-install 340.
[16:13] <daftykins> thiocy: just grab the precise ISO, boot it and take the files out to repair your install
[16:14] <jee1mr> Bash bug still not fixed?
[16:17] <k1l> !usn | jee1mr please see that for the bash bug
[16:18] <rww> !usn =~ s/^/<reply> /
[16:20] <phaidros> why can't I create a file larger than 17G on a etx3 fs? ulimit file size is unlimited .. any ideas?
[16:21] <phaidros> 14.04, mount flags: (rw,noatime,nodiratime,acl,errors=remount-ro)
[16:21] <phaidros> anu ideas?
[16:21] <rww> phaidros: which block size are you using?
[16:22] <phaidros> rww bs=10m count=6200
[16:22] <phaidros> I need a laaaarge file :D
[16:22] <rww> phaidros: for the file system, not dd
[16:22] <phaidros> uh
[16:22] <rww> sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 | grep -i 'block size'
[16:22] <rww> replacing sda1 as appropriate
[16:22] <phaidros> ack
[16:23] <phaidros> rww: 1024
[16:23] <rww> ext3 with 1KB blocks has a maximum file size of 16GB.
[16:23] <phaidros> umpf
[16:23] <rww> so depending on how you count, 17GB sounds about right.
[16:23] <phaidros> rww: anything to do about that?
[16:24] <rww> phaidros: how big do you need?
[16:25] <phaidros> rww: 60G
[16:25] <phaidros> how safe is it to change the blocksize in a running fs?
[16:25] <DouglasK> phaidros, if it's mounted, don't.
[16:26] <cih> hey, is it normal that after upgrading ubuntu server from 10.04 to 12.04 my mysql databases are lost? any ideas why?
[16:26] <phaidros> DouglasK: thought so
[16:26] <daftykins> phaidros: you'll have backups of course, so as safe as your backups are reliable!
[16:26] <DouglasK> phaidros, if it's a root fs, boot from a usb stick or CD, change it from there.
[16:26] <rww> is it even possible if it's unmounted without recreating it?
[16:26] <milad1512> when i try to download a file with wget, i get this error : bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(', how can i fix it ?
[16:26] <DouglasK> rww, possibly, if you're moving to a smaller blocksize.
[16:27] <rww> DouglasK: phaidros needs larger ;)
[16:27] <DouglasK> milad1512, possibly by adding a \ before the (
[16:27] <DouglasK> rww, ah.  That sucks.  a good tool might be able to handle it.
[16:27] <rww> phaidros: anyways, the answer I'd go with is "go make a new ext3 filesystem with 2KB or larger blocksize, or use ext4"
[16:28] <phaidros> hm, backups are fine, just that a huge live wiki is living there as well .. so I think I'll create 4x 16GB and then use it as loopback and create a lvg vg over those ^^
[16:28]  * DouglasK concurs with rww
[16:28] <apatheticsheep> how can i move the launcher to the bottom?
[16:28] <rww> apatheticsheep: in Unity? you can't
[16:28] <milad1512> DouglasK , no it doesn't work
[16:30] <facepalm> apatheticsheep, you could set it to hide and install something like cairo-dock.
[16:30] <apatheticsheep> rww ... but ... that's crazy!  you can do anything in Linux :-(
[16:31] <rww> apatheticsheep: sure, but "go look at the Unity code and change it so it moves to the bottom" is outside the scope of #ubuntu ;)
[16:31] <booby_tables_24> ^lol
[16:31] <apatheticsheep> rww i know.  but ... jeez
[16:31] <rww> apatheticsheep: agreed
[16:31] <brent2> step 1) uninstall unity
[16:31] <milad1512> there is a "(" in my link and because of that wget won't download it and gave me an error, This = bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[16:32] <jhutchins> milad1512: You didn't show us the full command you were using.  Perhaps quoting the URL?
[16:32] <apatheticsheep> brent2 - and install what in it's place? gnome? KDE?
[16:33] <brent2> apatheticsheep i like xfce
[16:33] <iveevue> Is kubuntu exactly the same as ubuntu, except with a different DE?
[16:33] <milad1512> jhutchins , YES hahaha, thank you
[16:33] <rww> yes
[16:33] <Wryness> Is there a way to download the text content of a website via terminal and grep it from there in order to filter out specific commands?
[16:33] <Wryness> *specific words
[16:33] <brent2> iveevue: all of the flavors are the same on the back end, the main difference is the DE and how well it integrates
[16:33] <iveevue> ic
[16:34] <apatheticsheep> Wryness wget can output to stdout instead of write to a file
[16:34] <apatheticsheep> Wryness wget -qO- i think
[16:36] <Wryness> thanks, apatheticsheep
[16:44] <btorch_> anyone here uses mini-dinstall ? the Distribution on the .changes file must really match the mini-dinstall.conf [section] ?
[16:48] <FireBeyond> So, the bash vuln... 14.04, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, and I still have Version: 4.3-6ubuntu1
[16:48] <swald> helllo
[16:48] <diverdude> Hi, i have a huge binary file (250GB) and its header is ascii. i just want to edit a line in the header How can i do that?
[16:49] <swald> i am a new user for ubuntu desktopm
[16:49] <k1l> FireBeyond: "apt-cache policy bash" in a pastebin please
[16:49] <bettycla1p> I can't upgrade by distro from 12.10 to the next release (13.04, I think). do-release-upgrade doesn't work, not even with -d. Any tips?
[16:49] <bettycla1p> (by -> my)
[16:49] <swald> How do i do to use euro character with thunderbird and gandi account please ?
[16:49] <FireBeyond> http://pastebin.com/djiSNzFk
[16:49] <FireBeyond> which i guess implies installed :)
[16:50] <swald> Please ca you help me ?
[16:50] <bazhang> !manual | swald
[16:50] <k1l> FireBeyond: well yes, that is the patched version, yes
[16:51] <k1l> !eol | bettycla1p
[16:51] <k1l> bettycla1p: you need to change the sources.list because 12.10 is that old it got completly shut down
[16:51] <swald> bazhang, thanks but it's not a problem described in the manual... Thunderbird don't accept euro character in a password for IMAP accounts
[16:52] <bettycla1p> Thanks...
[16:53] <swald> PLease can you help me?
[16:53] <FireBeyond> ty
[16:53] <daftykins> swald: why don't you remove it.
[16:53] <rww> swald: the authentication system you're using does not sufficiently define how to encode non-ASCII characters in passwords. This is not an Ubuntu-specific issue, and the consensus seems to be that you should not use non-ASCII in your passwords.
[16:54] <squinty> swald:  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird
[16:54] <Wryness> How can I give write permissions to my bittorrent client (or any program) on a separate partition?
[16:55] <brent2> Wryness: has to have a filesystem that supports unix permissions (so you can't use ntfs)
[16:55] <swald> rww, squinty thanks
[16:55] <brent2> just mount it and use the chmod command
[16:56] <Wryness> so chmod +x /media/datapartition ?
[16:56] <brent2> is your torrnet client running as a different user?
[16:56] <Wryness> no
[16:56] <brent2> Wryness: for example transmission-daemon runs as its own user
[16:56] <Wryness> its Deluge
[16:56] <brent2> then your user has to have read/write access, that's all
[16:56] <BluesKaj> squinty, share the target folder and set the path to that folder in your bt client
[16:56] <Wryness> and actually it worked until some days ago when I needed to reconfigure my user account
[16:56] <brent2> who owns the data partition?
[16:57] <brent2> or the mount point
[16:57] <Wryness> how can I check if I have rw access and who owns the partition?
[16:57] <brent2> ls -lah
[16:57] <brent2> ls -lah /path
[16:57] <Wryness> wasnt it something like ls -al?
[16:57] <Wryness> ah, k
[16:57] <Wryness> root owns it
[16:57] <squinty> BluesKaj:  comment meant to be directed to Wryness instead?  :)
[16:58] <brent2> Wryness: you have a couple of options, mine look like this http://i.imgur.com/8VmIcZN.png
[16:58] <Wryness> so I guess a chown -R user:user /media/partition would give me permissions?
[16:58] <brent2> I use the "storage" group for this purpose
[16:59] <brent2> what I do is add my user to "storage" and then set chmod 755 on all of it
[16:59] <ooloo> screw it, I'll just reinstall ubuntu on my machine.. now I can't even connect to the internet
[16:59] <ooloo> lol
[16:59] <Wryness> alright, I'll check it out
[16:59] <ooloo> ugh
[16:59] <Wryness> thanks brent2 :)
[16:59] <brent2> Wryness: I think another simple solution is to just mount the partition as your user (which is handled via whatever policy kit thing ubuntu uses), but if you want it to Just Work automatically I think my setup works well
[17:00] <brent2> alternatively you can just chmod 777 everything if you don't care about security
[17:00] <ooloo> the thing that bites is really just tailoring the system.. fixing the scroll bar, turning off some of unity's internet suggestions, etc
[17:00] <Wryness> k
[17:00] <brent2> ooloo: https://fixubuntu.com/
[17:01] <ooloo> thanks brent2
[17:01] <ooloo> that should save me a bit of time at least
[17:02] <ezio> i upgraded my system and my system is still vulnerable
[17:02] <ezio> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365216
[17:03] <k1l> ezio: "apt-cache policy bash" into a pastebin please
[17:04] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncompsci/a8c13d4a6cc580c800fd
[17:05] <bettycla1p> It's still not working. I've found several web pages that explain how to upgrade from 12.10 (including ubuntu's EOL webpages), but do-release-upgrade still does nothing. Help would be much appreciated...
[17:06] <k1l> ezio: you got the actual released patch. there still is some issue but the bash team needs to release the patch first before ubuntu can put that in.
[17:10] <shubhamjain> So if I understand correctly #shellshock is only vulnerable where scripts use system or exec or something like that?
[17:10] <StolenToast> that's the name for this one?
[17:10] <StolenToast> shellshock?
[17:11] <k1l> !usn
[17:11] <shubhamjain> StolenToast, Yup think so. http://www.troyhunt.com/2014/09/everything-you-need-to-know-about.html
[17:11] <shubhamjain> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn
[17:12] <Term1nal> Getting this error during a dist-upgrade: syntax error: unknown group 'admin' in statoverride file
[17:12] <Term1nal> in that file, I found this: root admin 4750 /bin/su
[17:21] <hyperchen> hello
[17:22] <adoniscik> Something went haywire in my system and now I'm having difficulty updating any applications due to problems with linux-image-3.2.0-69-generic "dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-69-generic". I've tried following some of the solutions I've foudn online, but I wanted to get a second before re-installing grub because I have a dual boot system. Any advice? http://pastebin.com/dUzHC8fR
[17:22] <hyperchen> could someone help me with ubuntu, I want to install controllerlab but I need some kde package and I dont know which and where I can get them?
[17:23] <daftykins> adoniscik: /boot out of space? that doesn't look like the full error. a pastebin would be good
[17:23] <hyperchen> need kdelibs4c2a but where could I get them?
[17:23] <adoniscik> it's there, daftykins : http://pastebin.com/dUzHC8fR
[17:24] <daftykins> adoniscik: oh sorry, my eyes did not spot that one
[17:24] <daftykins> adoniscik: can you share a "df -h" ?
[17:25] <adoniscik> 94% full (2.7G available) on boot partition
[17:25] <daftykins> i'd rather see the log than an interpretation
[17:26] <adoniscik> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/3XSkE2B0
[17:27] <_joey> how ddo I restart service that controls bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[17:29] <daftykins> adoniscik: get rid of some older kernels via "dpkg -r"
[17:32] <azi`> when ubuntu provide an update for bash fixing the recent bug?
[17:33] <daftykins> azi`: when a fix is out
[17:33] <daftykins> azi`: Canonical can't provide what doesn't exist.
[17:33] <brent2> isn't it already patched?
[17:34] <Pici> There is a preliminary patch.
[17:34] <daftykins> brent2: not successfully
[17:34] <dbristow> We just had a problem where do-release-upgrade was finding nothing to upgrade from (trying to go from 12.10 to the net release) where we had to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades from "Prompt=lts" to "Prompt=normal".  Maybe this setting is exposed in the gui, but apparently we didn't find any documentation pointing to this detail.
[17:35] <dbristow> Maybe people in this situation should know about this particular setting?
[17:35] <CharlieTheCabbie> Good evening guys.  Can someone please advise me on this "vulnerability" which has been discovered with bash?  Are we affected by this?
[17:35] <daftykins> dbristow: we wouldn't expect anyone to still be running such an antiquated release
[17:35] <dbristow> Ahhh.   Well.
[17:35] <daftykins> CharlieTheCabbie: yes. first patch available, didn't fix everything... awaiting another patch.
[17:35] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/09/bash-shellshock-bug-is-wormable.html
[17:36] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141597#c23
[17:36] <CharlieTheCabbie> ok daftykins - is it only with bourne, or are the other surrounding shells affected too, like ash and csh?
[17:37] <carbon13> CharlieTheCabbie, do you have a server running CGI scripts?
[17:37] <CharlieTheCabbie> no
[17:37] <Alpy> How do you solve GPT detected error?
[17:37] <carbon13> then no worries and wait for patch
[17:38] <daftykins> Alpy: what are you running and what are you trying to achieve?
[17:38] <carbon13> the bash issue is only interesting for guys using bash for CGI scripts
[17:38] <Alpy> I had a Ubuntu Windows 8.1 dual boot
[17:38] <Alpy> I did something to my partitions and my computer does not boot
[17:39] <daftykins> Alpy: no need to keep pressing enter, i can read nice long lines
[17:39] <CharlieTheCabbie> ok carbon, cheers..  My machine dual boots anyhow, so I can suck stuff off of my linux partitions for now and come back to linux when we get patched :)
[17:40] <daftykins> Alpy: ok so what were you running to see this message?
[17:41] <Alpy> (OK, long lines) I got Boot-repair, and did the recommeded repair. It told me to create an BIOS-boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag), which tried to do on GParted, but i can seem to do it. I can get an unformatted filesystem
[17:43] <Alpy> an Xubuntu CD a friend gave me
[17:44] <Alpy> though Xchat
[17:45] <francesco_> batman ita
[17:45] <francesco_> batman ita
[17:45] <rohanjas2al> can someone help me with the problem happening to my PC??
[17:45] <rohanjas2al> ubuntu is not able to lock the computer
[17:46] <daftykins> !details
[17:46] <rohanjas2al> and more password login is also not working?
[17:47] <rohanjas2al> i have to no idea about the configuration files related to my problem
[17:48] <rohanjas2al> the problem is i cant lock a particular user account in my computer
[17:49] <booby_tables_24> rohanjas2al: "lock" as in prevent them from logging in?
[17:50] <rohanjas2al> yeah
[17:50] <kantlivelong> is there any reason why seahorse doesnt show pubkeys ?
[17:51] <rohanjas2al> the computer is not prompting for password at the time of login
[17:51] <brent2> rohanjas2al: you using the unity desktop?
[17:51] <Shaba1> hello all
[17:52] <Shaba1> Can anyyone reccomend a good tutorial for a intermediate windows user to get him/her up and running with linux/ubuntu
[17:52] <Shaba1> preferably in pdf format so I can print it out
[17:53] <daftykins> !manual
[17:53] <daftykins> Shaba1: ^
[17:53] <brent2> rohanjas2al: settings -> user accounts has everything you need for that
[17:53] <quants> Shabal i just played and used the Ubuntu Wiki / Forum
[17:54] <booby_tables_24> rohanjas2al: https://i.stack.imgur.com/a1yot.jpg
[17:55] <brent2> what'd you use to add the arrows booby_tables_24 ?
[17:55] <brent2> or is this not your pic
[17:55] <booby_tables_24> brent2 I got it from a stackoverflow answer
[17:55] <brent2> oic
[17:56] <reisio> dia would work
[18:00] <Nyem> hi there
[18:00] <booby_tables_24> Hi
[18:01] <Nyem> does ubuntu still contain spyware in it by default?
[18:01] <booby_tables_24> Yup
[18:01] <Nyem> that sucks.
[18:02]  * Nyem will come back again to ask in half a year
[18:02] <brent2> Nyem:
[18:02] <brent2> https://fixubuntu.com/
[18:02] <minimec> Nyem: I guess the gnome3 edition of ubuntu could be a solution for you.
[18:03] <Nyem> minimec, Linux Mint was, has been and is :) never been happier before with my system actually
[18:04] <Nyem> however, I'm just sad looking at how things turned out with ubuntu
[18:04] <brent2> they removed it in 14.10 didn't they?
[18:05] <GuszZzZ> hi
[18:05] <Nyem> the site says it's there but disabled by default
[18:05] <reisio> heyo
[18:05] <Nyem> which is kind of too late for me to ever trust the system again
[18:05] <brent2> lol
[18:06] <brent2> well, if that bugs you, I'm surprised you're running mint
[18:06] <Nyem> why would you be?
[18:06] <Nyem> Mint's a great system
[18:06] <BluesKaj> there's always KDE
[18:06] <brent2> I meant if those features being there but disabled bothered you
[18:06] <n0m> hey guys, this where i can get some help on installing?
[18:06] <reisio> you changed to a distro still wholly dependent on Ubuntu instead of running an apt-get remove
[18:06] <reisio> n0m: yup
[18:06] <brent2> Nyem: are you running coreboot and only foss software? :P
[18:07] <n0m> great! I've made a post already on the forums, no responses yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245707&p=13129047#post13129047
[18:07] <Nyem> reisio, yes, but I did that because I trust the people who deliver the final product
[18:07] <brent2> just imagine: every piece of proprietary software on your system could potentially be a bomb!
[18:07] <brent2> ッ
[18:07] <reisio> Nyem: you trust them to audit every last line of code? :p
[18:07] <Nyem> brent2, well, sending all my private disk searches to amazon is kinda a big thing, don't you think?
[18:08] <rww> So turn it off, or use a non-Unity Ubuntu flavor.
[18:08] <daftykins> n0m: you used the mac ISO yes?
[18:08] <Nyem> reisio, of course I do;>
[18:08] <brent2> Nyem: yeah I agree, but if it's disabled in 14.10 I think the problem is fixed
[18:08] <rww> (hint: there's an option in System Settings to do so, no need for that nonsense site)
[18:08] <n0m> mac iso? for refit?
[18:08] <reisio> k :P
[18:08] <brent2> dunno why they did that in the first place, seems like there are better ways to monetize
[18:08] <daftykins> n0m: mac ISO of ubuntu server
[18:08] <brent2> plus Nyem, xubuntu beats the pants off of mint
[18:08] <brent2> ;)
[18:08] <n0m> daftykins: oh my god. are there two different ones?
[18:08] <Nyem> brent2, will try that distro in a sec.
[18:09] <english-> hi folks, anyway to manually upgrade bash on 12.10 without upgrading the whole OS?
[18:09] <Nyem> brent2, and it was a very bad decision, I practically lost trust to these people forever, even windows does not backf*k their users this bad
[18:09] <rww> english-: 12.10 went EOL on May 16th and is not supported in this channel. Mixing repositories from different Ubuntu versions is a bad idea. Upgrade to a supported version of Ubuntu, and then come back.
[18:10] <n0m> daftykins: i'm not seeing a mac ISO here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:10] <n0m> where is it?
[18:10] <daftykins> n0m: correct, also does your post intimate that your mac is a 7,1 ?
[18:10] <n0m> yep mbp 7.1
[18:10] <StolenToast> is 12.04 eol?
[18:10] <rww> StolenToast: no
[18:10] <StolenToast> last i checked it was extended
[18:10] <daftykins> no it's a comma, not a period
[18:10] <rww> StolenToast: 12.10 is not an LTS, 12.04 is.
[18:10] <StolenToast> gotcha
[18:10] <english-> hmm, I guess I'd get that kind of response rww , but I would have thought there would be a hack
[18:11] <rww> english-: There probably is, but it's not supported here if so, so we don't provide it.
[18:11] <brent2> Nyem: windows does a lot of shady things, half of which nobody may ever know
[18:11] <english-> no deb no deb file?
[18:11] <brent2> the amazon thing sucks but it's not the end of the world
[18:11] <english-> ups sorry :)
[18:11] <daftykins> english-: you should not be running an EOL release - we cannot help you
[18:11] <Bashing-om> StolenToast: Ubuntu 12.04 is LTS, (L)ubuntu 12.04 is not. Are you using u-buntu ?
[18:11] <Nyem> brent2, I'm sure they do, but they just don't advertise themselves as the most private and secure system out there
[18:12] <StolenToast> I am on oo-buntoo
[18:12] <kostkon> !ot | Nyem
[18:12] <brent2> lol
[18:12] <k1l_> english-: your system doesnt only have that shelstorm issue right now. so only exchanging bash doesnt make your system all good
[18:12] <daftykins> n0m: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/
[18:12] <Nyem> !ot | kostkon
[18:13] <daftykins> n0m: give it a whirl with http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64+mac.iso
[18:13] <brent2> don't things like heartbleed and this new bash bug totally wreck a lot of consumer-tier routers? mine runs dd-wrt and I doubt it'll ever be updated for this sort of thing
[18:13] <StolenToast> I think so
[18:13] <StolenToast> gg
[18:13] <daftykins> brent2: that is off topic here, this is an ubuntu support channel
[18:13] <donbirdy> omygerd we're being hacked
[18:13] <brent2> daftykins: kk
[18:13] <n0m> daftykins: i'm going to be... upset if this is it
[18:13] <n0m> lol
[18:13] <k1l_> brent2: well, that is a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic since that is clearly not only ubunut related
[18:13] <brent2> yeah k1l_ i heard
[18:13] <daftykins> n0m: i'd be happy that there's a solution! be sure to let me know how you get on
[18:14] <n0m> bout to burn the disc, will report back
[18:14] <brent2> dejavu in here
[18:14] <Nyem> STOP IT WITH THE OFFTOPIC, YOU SHOULD'VE NAMED THE CHANNEL #UBUNTU-HELP TO MAKE IT CLEAR
[18:14] <Nyem> geez
[18:14] <Nyem> that's just dumb
[18:15] <k1l_> Nyem: you are free to: read the guidelines. please dont use caps in here and insults/swearing. thanks
[18:15] <kostkon> ..and the channel topic
[18:15] <Nyem> k1l_, you are free to kiss my ass
[18:15] <bazhang> Nyem, are you on MINT?
[18:15] <kostkon> channel's*
[18:15] <n0m> daftykins: btw, so do you know the the "stopping foo [OK]" stuff was all about?
[18:16] <Nyem> bazhang, yeah, I'm on mint
[18:16] <daftykins> n0m: sounded like it was giving you some text mode bootup and not switching to a TTY very quickly. i wouldn't worry about it too much
[18:16] <bazhang> Nyem, mintsupport is on irc spotchat not here
[18:16] <daftykins> !mint
[18:16] <k1l_> Nyem: so please ask the mint guys in the mint channels. like the mint channels are set to default channels in your irc client anyway
[18:16] <Nyem> I don't have any mint questions
[18:17] <Nyem> why would you even bring that up
[18:17] <bazhang> Nyem, this is not a chit chat channel, thats why
[18:17] <Nyem> where will I find #ubuntu-chitchat?
[18:17] <daftykins> !offtopic
[18:17] <Nyem> cannot locate it @freenode
[18:17] <bazhang> -offtopic
[18:17] <erikk> Hello
[18:17] <n0m> daftykins: the only reason i brought it up is that it doesn't always show. just right before its going to shutdown (kind of like how the blue screen precedes shutdown on windows)
[18:17] <kostkon> erikk, hi
[18:17] <erikk> how can i make a daemon in C ?
[18:18] <daftykins> this is not a software development channel
[18:18] <erikk> sorry
[18:18] <StolenToast> is this a cake baking channel?
[18:18] <bazhang> try ##c perhaps
[18:18] <reisio> StolenToast: if you're using ubuntu to do it
[18:18] <StolenToast> guys I'm having trouble with gnu-bake on 12.04.5
[18:19] <bazhang> .5?
[18:19] <StolenToast> yeah 12.04.5
[18:19] <bazhang> whats the issue
[18:19] <StolenToast> it got a little version bump a couple weeks ago
[18:19] <bazhang> !info gnu-bake
[18:19] <StolenToast> I'm jokin, gnu-bake is not real
[18:19] <daftykins> StolenToast: please do not time waste
[18:19] <reisio> heh
[18:19] <bazhang> StolenToast, please dont joke around here
[18:20] <StolenToast> okay ,_,
[18:20] <brent2> http://i.imgur.com/zafffSk.png
[18:21] <daftykins> we cut down on chit chat and timewasting so people can be helped, it is a good thing.
[18:22] <reisio> says the only person talking :p
[18:22] <brent2> ^
[18:22] <daftykins> reisio: you should know better.
[18:22] <reisio> than wasting my time pointing out ironies, yes :p
[18:29] <Grimlock1182> when i update my software in ubuntu 14.04 this is the display message "Requires installation of untrusted package" this require installing packages from unauthenticated sources... PLEASE HELP....:(
[18:29] <pavlos> is there a way to rebuild all the icons in the system settings? running 14.04, gnome2 but my system settings has 6 icons only
[18:29] <LinStatSDR> sounds like ppa
[18:31] <n0m> daftykins: btw, do i need grub? i've got refind
[18:31] <trism> pavlos: sudo apt-get install unity-control-center; if by gnome 2 you mean gnome flashback
[18:31] <daftykins> n0m: not sure, have you seen the support page?
[18:31] <bazhang> fallback?
[18:32] <n0m> for ubuntu server? or refind?
[18:32] <daftykins> !mac | n0m
[18:32] <n0m> thanks
[18:32] <priuon> Hello. Is it possible to revert all changes done to a ubuntu installation?
[18:32] <theadmin> priuon: reinstall?
[18:32] <priuon> I mean without reinstalling everything
[18:33] <theadmin> priuon: Uh, no.
[18:33] <priuon> theadmin: to bad.
[18:33] <priuon> theadmin: Is it possible to have a static wlan interface configuration that won't be loaded on boot?
[18:34] <pavlos> trism, thank you, that did it (by gnome 2 I meant fallback)
[18:34] <daftykins> priuon: configure a profile with network-manager and set it to not auto connect
[18:34] <donbirdy> Has this shellshock stuff been patched?
[18:35] <Pici> donbirdy: as much as it can be at this point.
[18:35] <daftykins> donbirdy: yes, but it's not a comprehensive fix, awaiting the final one still.
[18:35] <k1l_> donbirdy: yes, just run the regular updates
[18:35] <_marco> I'm running a single fullscreen aplication with multiple windows on X (no window manager). How to I disable sloppy focus (focus follows mouse) default xorg behaviour? Is there a command line tool for that?
[18:35] <AngrySlothMafia> Hey guyz
[18:35] <dman777> uh...I can't just update my bash? I have to upgrade my ubuntu system?
[18:36] <priuon> daftkins: I am bound to the shell atm. The Networkmanager is not really an option. the /etc/network/interfaces file is what I am considering about this
[18:36] <daftykins> priuon: good luck then
[18:36] <Pici> dman777: We're not asking you to upgrade to a new Ubuntu release. You should be doing regular updates though.
[18:36] <k1l_> dman777: there are still other security issues besides bash and shellstorm. so running updates is a good idea anyways
[18:37] <priuon> daftkins: I had more bad luck about all this then I could ever imagine
[18:37] <SweLartz> hey guys do i have to have a problem to talk here or is it ok to just say hi? ^^
[18:37] <Pici> SweLartz: This channel is for support only, if you want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:37] <dman777> Pici: well, I did apt-get update and it didn't find a new version of bash with apt-get install bash
[18:37] <reisio> SweLartz: people say hi
[18:37] <dman777> 4.2-5ubuntu3
[18:38] <SweLartz> wow quick answer :P
[18:38] <Pici> dman777: you'll need an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade for that.  'update' only downloads new index ifles.
[18:38] <donbirdy> I think we should shut down the internet for a few days whilst this problem is sorted out
[18:38] <dman777> Pici: thanks
[18:39] <GlenK> hi.  I have a 13.10 machine, which strikes me kinda odd.  in xfce, the networking setup menu, there's nothing configured.  and no eth0 mentioned in /etc/network/interfaces.  should this thing still have an IP?  because it does...
[18:39] <k1l_> dman777: which ubuntu is this?
[18:40] <GlenK> I mean, I guess NetworkManager is coming in to play, I see it running.  but why is there nothing listed in the xfce network setup?  is that not networkmanager?
[18:40] <dman777> k1l_: not sure
[18:40] <k1l_> dman777: "lsb_release -d"
[18:40] <dman777> Pici: apt-get upgrade bash still shows 4.2-5ubuntu3
[18:40] <daftykins> GlenK: sorry you'll need to be running a supported release.
[18:41] <GlenK> bah
[18:41] <k1l_> GlenK: if you upgrade to 14.04 you got 5 years no trouble with upgrading.
[18:42] <Pici> dman777: Which release of Ubuntu are you running currently?
[18:42] <dman777> k1l_: Ubuntu 13.10
[18:42] <dman777> Pici: ^
[18:42] <k1l_> dman777: same for you. you need to upgrade to 14.04 to get security updates
[18:42] <Pici> dman777: 13.10 reached its end-of-live in July
[18:42] <english-> how big is an upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04?
[18:43] <daftykins> english-: truthfully you would be better off backing up and clean installing 14.04
[18:43] <english-> awesome :)
[18:43] <k1l_> english-: it should tell you when you start it with sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:44] <english-> do-release-upgrade will prompt before actually making changes?
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <k1l_> if i recall correct it tells you the amount of packages and MB needed for that upgrade before starting.
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <Bashing-om> !eol | english-
[18:45] <Guest24688> k1l_, is a twat k1l_, is an ass, because k1l_ the ass banned the brent2
[18:45] <unopaste> Guest24688 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:48] <dman777> k1l_: I did apt-get dist-upgrade but still getting old version of bash
[18:48] <n0m> daftykins: moment of truth!
[18:49] <n0m> lets see how it does
[18:49] <daftykins> n0m: what was your process? boot, nuke the existing partitions and install?
[18:49] <k1l_> dman777: there is no update for 13.10
[18:49] <n0m> yep
[18:49] <n0m> same thing though :(
[18:50] <dman777> k1l_: oh...I thought dist-upgrade would upgrade the distro version
[18:50] <n0m> I'm gonna video it to see if i cant get the error messages
[18:50] <k1l_> dman777: no. you need "sudo do-release-upgrade" for that
[18:50] <dman777> k1l_: thanks
[18:50] <Guest24615> k1l_, just like there is no update for being a twat =) you probably know something about it
[18:51] <n0m> ok so just rebooted and i got to log in
[18:51] <n0m> give it a sec
[18:52] <n0m> it seems stable, going to try and run some cfig commands
[18:56] <daftykins> n0m: maybe best to start with a dist-upgrade
[18:56] <n0m> daftykins: will do!
[18:56] <n0m> on the screen in between boot and the list i mentioned, i did the the word "firmware" flash up on one of the items
[18:57] <n0m> but all my firmware
[18:57] <n0m> is up to date
[18:57] <daftykins> just a coincidence most likely
[18:58] <n0m> daftykins: distro currently upgrading
[18:59] <daftykins> n0m: ok ;) i'll let you suspend the running commentary for now. i must head off, hope it works out though
[18:59] <n0m> daftykins: haha sorry! thanks for your help
[19:00] <slopjong> how to find out where an ubuntu server is doing any auto-update? cron-apt isn't installed and there's no cronjob doing it
[19:01] <Sonderblade> trying to install java: openjdk-7-jre : Depends of: openjdk-7-jre-headless (= 7u25-2.3.12-4ubuntu3) <- what does it mean?
[19:02] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Check: " /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ " .
[19:03] <Sleepnbum> are there limitations on installing packages with the live cd?
[19:04] <Bashing-om> Sleepnbum: Certainly ! ,, one can run out of ram; for 1 .
[19:04] <ketralni`> I have a really ancient version of Ubuntu, maverick 10.10, running on ec2. It looks like an upgrade to 14.04 will be a step per release, for something like 4 upgrades. Is that accurate?
[19:04] <ketralni`> Also, there's no chance in hell 10.10 still has a working security package repo anywhere is there?
[19:05] <ketralni`> Specifically for this shellshock vuln
[19:05] <k1l_> ketralni`: no way.
[19:05] <Sonderblade> noone knows what the unmet dependency message mean?
[19:05] <Bashing-om> ketralni`: You have it right, a LONG process now to get current. 2) nope, there is no support for an old release.
[19:06] <Sleepnbum> Bashing-om: thanks!  i'm contantly getting "unable to locate package" for several different installation packages... could the error be related to my use of Live CD?
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Sleepnbum: Hard to say .. What release is the liveDVD ?
[19:07] <slopjong> Bashing-om, this is not commented out "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security";
[19:07] <DJones> ketralni`: 10.10 hasn't had updates since April 2012, I suspect you're missing more security updates than just shellshock
[19:07] <Sleepnbum> Bashing-om: 14.04
[19:07] <Sleepnbum> i'm pretty new to linux, so it's probably my fault
[19:08] <teward> ketralni`: 10.10 is way past end of life, and is no longer supported, you should upgrade to an LTS release or a still supported release (next version up from 10.10 that is still supported is 12.04)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Ummm, You will not get good performance, nor a good experience of ubuntu from running on a liveDVD. What hampers you from doing the actual install ??
[19:09] <ketralni`> I wonder if it makes more sense to upgrade bash by hand so I have more time to plan a proper upgrade process then
[19:09] <slopjong> Bashing-om, you meant Sleepnbum
[19:09] <Sleepnbum> lol
[19:10] <erp2them1> So this bash bug... How serious of a threat is it?
[19:10] <Sleepnbum> i have a yoga 2 laptop and the wireless driver doesn't look like it'll work with linux without serious workarounds
[19:10] <ketralni`> erp2them1 It's pretty bad. Anything that can set env variables can execute arbitrary code
[19:10] <xangua> ketralni`: you look so worried about a single security issue but you weren't for who knows what others in two years?
[19:10] <squinty> ketralni`:   http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[19:11] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Yeah .. sorry bout that ( I really should try and slow down on this 'fast' IRC ), will try and pay morte attentipn.
[19:11] <ketralni`> This server doesn't do much, so this is the first major one that hits me. Even heartbleed was for one openssl release *after* my version
[19:11] <slopjong> Bashing-om, but you can tell me what it exactly means if this line is not commented out: "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security";
[19:11] <pivA> any tips on updating bash in 13.04? I know, it's not supported but I wasn't the one who made the decision to not use LTS and also not automate this freaking machine :/
[19:12] <slopjong> Bashing-om, cron-apt isn't installed and no other crons are setup so security packages should not be auto-updated, should they?
[19:12] <xangua> pivA: upgrade to a supported release
[19:12] <erp2them1> ketralni`: oh dang. I can see how that can be a problem, thanks.
[19:12] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Where are you seeing that line ? Does not ring a bell presently with me.
[19:12] <k1l_> pivA: you will need to patch that on your own now
[19:13] <pivA> xangua: I want to, I'm already automating that machine but there are things running that no one knows how or why they are that way... It's messy
[19:13] <Bashing-om> slopjong: Maybe this will shed some light: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html .
[19:13] <pivA> k1l_: ok, so, recompiling and building from scratch, thanks!
[19:13] <ketralni`> squinty: am I reading that right that http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/ has a patch for Ubuntu 10.04? I can probably force that version
[19:14] <vhyg> ciao
[19:14] <squinty> ketamin:  seems so.
[19:14] <vhyg> !list
[19:15] <alistair> hello i am using jack through hdmi so i can mix a track to sound right on the tv but the audio is coming through slowed down. how can i get it to work normally please?
[19:15] <squinty> ketamin: fwiw, read the same on another reference yesterday but they specifically mentioned 10.04 server edition.. not sure why though.
[19:18] <andradei> msg/ NickServ identify sargas Piano1987!()
[19:18] <ObrienDave> thank you for sharing your password
[19:18] <english-> oh dear
[19:18] <squinty> heh
[19:19] <english-> change it quickly!
[19:19] <semitones__> help! I booted up a windows recovery partition and then got a grub error. Gparted now says that where my ubuntu partition was is now "unallocated" can I recover my partition?
[19:20] <mah454> Hello
[19:20] <TNSC_DMB> hi
[19:20] <mah454> this is my lvm.conf , Why systemd can not mount lvm partitions ? http://pastebay.net/1498486
[19:20] <mah454> please view that ...
[19:21] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Maybe -> testdisk. when Windows' recovery is done, Windows thinks it is the only operating system in the world and will wipe all in attempting to "restore" Windows.
[19:21] <squinty> semitones__:  maybe with  testdisk   read description by   apt show testdisk
[19:21] <semitones__> Bashing-om: squinty, thanks, I'll try getting testdisk
[19:22] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Good, might wnat to boot a liveDVD of 'buntu and see if fdisk/gdisk/GParted think of the hard disk.
[19:23] <semitones__> Bashing-om: i'm in that environment right now: all my partitions are there, except the ubuntu one
[19:23] <semitones__> Bashing-om: squinty I can't find testdisk in apt-get or the app manager
[19:24] <sargas> Thanks guys, a little bit of entertainment here to you... No one stole my account so  :D
[19:24] <Bashing-om> semitones__: testdisk tutorial -> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[19:25] <Bashing-om> semitones__: What release are you running ? in an current updated system, testdisk is available in the repo.
[19:26] <semitones__> Bashing-om: this is a 13.10 live usb
[19:26] <sargas> Question: can I use Powerline Shell on an Ubuntu Server with no GUI?
[19:26] <sargas> or just change the font to a TTY one of my choice?
[19:26] <semitones__> Bashing-om: looks like it should be availiable: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/testdisk/
[19:26] <malkauns_> what on earth is Powerline Shell??
[19:27] <Bashing-om> semitones__: Nope, repository no longer exist as you may have known it - End-Of-Life is no more support .
[19:27] <semitones__> Bashing-om: ok. I'll make a new usb
[19:27] <sargas> malkauns_: an awesome TTY tool
[19:27] <sargas> malkauns_, https://github.com/milkbikis/powerline-shell
[19:27] <jhc76> if I need to update the bash on 13.04 ( due to vulnerability ) what is the best method to doing so?
[19:28] <k1l_> jhc76: patch it yourself
[19:28] <Bashing-om> semitones__: That will work, and also, you may birn testdisk to a bootable DVD . -> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step .
[19:28] <Bashing-om> birn/burn*
[19:29] <k1l_> jhc76: since 13.04 is out of life some time now you dont get and updates from ubuntu anymore. so you need to work it yourself. and shellstorm bug is not your only issue
[19:29] <jhc76> if I replace the shell with zsh, would it prevent the vulnerability?
[19:30] <jhc76> 13.04 is slated to be retired in few months.
[19:30] <jhc76> in our operation. so until then I need to find a work around to block the vulnerability
[19:34] <sergio-br2> hello
[19:35] <sergio-br2> i just installed ubuntu in one sony vaio
[19:35] <sergio-br2> and it has broadcom wifi/bluetooth card
[19:35] <sergio-br2> in the Live, i managed to install the driver
[19:35] <cheus> Hi. I've been recently seeing some problems with apt in trusty and I'm curious if some of the repositories have been moved. Notably, trusty-updates, trusty-proposed, trusty-backports, anything to us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com are all returning 404's.
[19:36] <sergio-br2> but after install, i can't install... well, the only way to install things is by wifi
[19:36] <sergio-br2> why ubuntu post install is so stupid ?
[19:37] <Bashing-om> jhc76: I can feel for you. Maybe ->http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245682 . for manual instructions for the CURRENT release.
[19:37] <ObrienDave> sergio-br2, sending refund your way
[19:37] <sergio-br2> how can i install broadcom drivers if i can't access internet?
[19:39] <squinty> sergio-br2:  maybe try burning an iso onto usb with persistence (unetbootin software) and then use apt-get to download (not install) the relevant b43 files .
[19:39] <sergio-br2> if i connect my usb drive that i used to install ubuntu, it will be recognized by system as the ubuntu cdrom?
[19:39] <sergio-br2> i don't have idea what the packages to download
[19:40] <Wryness> In a simple sh script while loop with an increasing $i, how can I stop the script from overwriting the fetched data (which it writes to a file) everytime the $i value increases?
[19:40] <Bashing-om> sergio-br2: the Vaio and broadcom drivers are problematic. I have seen solutions on ububtuforums.org, Search there and see .
[19:40] <sergio-br2> Bashing-om, i managed to install the broadcom in the instalation media (live)
[19:40] <squinty> !b43
[19:41] <sergio-br2> so, it's not too much problematic
[19:41] <jhc76> Bashing-om: I appreciate the link. cheers~!
[19:41] <squinty> sergey_: ^^
[19:41] <sergio-br2> problematic is the idiot post install behavior
[19:41] <randymuc> hello
[19:41] <sergey_> squinty: hey
[19:41] <sergio-br2> thanks for the link
[19:42] <squinty> sergey_:  sorry wrong nick :)
[19:42] <randymuc> what kind of mobile os do you use?
[19:43] <k1l_> randymuc: i think that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:44] <squinty> sergio-br2:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers  also
[19:44] <randymuc> ok
[19:44] <sergio-br2> thanks
[19:55] <sergio-br2> sorry for blame ubuntu
[19:55] <sergio-br2> i'm an ubuntu users for years, 4 i think
[19:55] <sergio-br2> but somethings in ubuntu is pretty stupid
[19:55] <erp2them1> sergio-br2: like what?
[19:56] <sergio-br2> like this driver issue
[19:57] <erp2them1> maybe its the vendor that is stupid. they write windows drivers but not linux drivers
[19:57] <sergio-br2> if some user easily install it in the live media, he expect that it will works out-of-box in the post install
[19:57] <sergio-br2> yeah, they are stupid too
[19:57] <erp2them1> lol
[20:00] <ketralni`> How do you install packages from Laucnhpad? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.1-2ubuntu3.1
[20:00] <ketralni`> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu/lucid" seems to not work ("can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ubuntu/+archive/lucid")
[20:00] <sergio-br2> ok, i have to install dkms package
[20:00] <bekks> !lucid
[20:01] <sergio-br2> and without web access
[20:01] <bekks> sergio-br2: You have web access, you are online currently ;)
[20:01] <sergio-br2> and ubuntu does not recognize the usb drive as the CD media installation...
[20:01] <sergio-br2> * i'm with 2 laptop here
[20:02] <twinsemitones> I'm trying to install testdisk on a live cd, but apt can't find it. I feel stupid. how do I do this?
[20:04] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, it's not on the live cd packages repos . Do you have a working internet connection ?
[20:04] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: yes. I did sudo apt-get update
[20:04] <DouglasK> 4:04 pm.  Time not found
[20:05] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: I thought ubuntu software center would search through universe and multiverse, but it does not?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, odd because it's in the universe repos
[20:06] <xangua> twinsemitones: software center, edit, sources, enable all sources
[20:06] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: after I enabled universe in software sources it worked! That is weird though, usually ubuntu software center still sees stuff that's in universe
[20:06] <ObrienDave> not if the repo is not active
[20:07] <ObrienDave> *enabled
[20:07] <BluesKaj> twinsemitones, ok so the universe was commented
[20:07] <twinsemitones> BluesKaj: yep, good to go now. Hopefully it recovers my partition!
[20:08] <BluesKaj> wish you luck, never used it before
[20:10] <bashfr3ak> why my daemon crashes when i change the port in sshd_config to anything else other than 22 ? any one knows the answer for this?
[20:15] <twinsemitones> Ok this is weird -- testdisk shows the partitions as being healthy, but gparted shows "unallocated space." How do I get them back?
[20:15] <brainproxy> anything desktop sharing option as dead simple as https://join.me which works for linux?
[20:15] <brainproxy> *any desktop..
[20:16] <gremlyn> I was upgrading a remote server with do-release-upgrade and got a broken pipe in the middle, and the upgrade was awaiting input on keeping or overwriting some apache file
[20:16] <gremlyn> what to do now?
[20:16] <brainproxy> also, on the hunt for a way to make "control-lick" work as "right click" in ubuntu
[20:16] <gremlyn> brainproxy, not as deadsimple, but I think webex works
[20:16] <twinsemitones> Ok before I do anything foolish in testdisk, do i need to highlight all the partitions in green, or just the ones that have been deleted?
[20:20] <ketralni`> In case anyone else is as dumb as I am to run 10.10, I was able to fix bash by going to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/6400979 and downloading those deps, then installing with dpkg -i bash_4.1-2ubuntu3.1_i386.deb
[20:21] <reisio> ketralni`: you got a web server?
[20:21] <bekks> ketralni`: you should upgrade to a supported ubuntu release immediately.
[20:22] <ketralni`> It's a mail server, but things like procmail may be exploitable
[20:22] <leeyaa> hey guys
[20:22] <reisio> mmm
[20:22] <reisio> leeyaa: 'lo
[20:22] <twinsemitones> alright i'm gonna reboot, wish me luck!
[20:22] <ketralni`> bekks: totally agreed, but this will mean that I can do it on purpose instead of under duress :)
[20:22] <leeyaa> is ubuntu vulnerable to shellshock cve ?
[20:22] <ketralni`> Yes
[20:22] <gremlyn> pretty sure all linux is
[20:22] <gremlyn> I got updates for it this morning
[20:22] <ketralni`> leeyaa: do this: export x='() { :;}; echo bar'; bash -c 'echo baz'
[20:22] <k1l_> !shellshock | leeyaa
[20:22] <reisio> all of old bash is
[20:22] <claude2> does anyone here know why snmpd wants to install mysql in 14.04?
[20:22] <ketralni`> If you get "bar " and then "baz", you're vulnerable
[20:22] <reisio> although technically if you aren't running some kind of server, it's not likely to matter much
[20:22] <leeyaa> i thought ubuntu is using dash, no?
[20:23] <k1l_> leeyaa: for users its bash
[20:23] <bekks> gremlyn: Those updates do not fix all issues.
[20:23] <leeyaa> right so i need to update some 200+ servers, 80% of them eol -.-
[20:23] <gremlyn> bekks... no? doh!
[20:23] <bekks> leeyaa: Every system with bash installed is vulnerable.
[20:23] <reisio> leeyaa: why're they eol? :p
[20:23] <leeyaa> reisio: long story.
[20:23] <reisio> heh
[20:23] <leeyaa> ubuntu 6 ;p
[20:24] <reisio> well, you can merely disable bash in the interim, if you care to
[20:24] <leeyaa> i mean it is not my call to update the app software
[20:24] <reisio> leeyaa: I feel you
[20:24] <reisio> hope you get overtime for cleaning up someone else's mess
[20:24] <gremlyn> bekks, so why wasn't a full fix pushed out?
[20:24] <leeyaa> we are on the way to switch to 14.04 LTS though
[20:24] <reisio> gremlyn: doesn't exist yet
[20:24] <gremlyn> oh
[20:24] <k1l_> gremlyn: read the message from bot
[20:25] <leeyaa> ketralni`: what does export x='() { :;}; echo bar'; bash -c 'echo baz' tell me btw ?
[20:25] <reisio> leeyaa: if you get bar, your bash is unpatched
[20:25] <leeyaa> if it prints bar and baz i should upgrade ?
[20:25] <ketralni`> Yes
[20:25] <leeyaa> thanks
[20:25] <ketralni`> btw it's not just for servers: https://www.trustedsec.com/september-2014/shellshock-dhcp-rce-proof-concept/
[20:26] <ketralni`> Loads of stuff uses env variables
[20:26] <leeyaa> yeah
[20:26] <reisio> ketralni`: that doesn't start with 'start a server'?
[20:26] <leeyaa> btw how to apply just security fixes ?
[20:26] <ketralni`> Yes, you start a DHCP server that then explots DHCP clients
[20:26] <reisio> so first you have to have already compromised a network :p
[20:27] <reisio> seems contrived
[20:27] <reisio> leeyaa: you can update bash alone
[20:27] <reisio> leeyaa: although if it's eol, there are probably other issues
[20:27] <ketralni`> (1) Not hard to get on a coffee shop wifi and run a DHCP server and (2) Sure, my point is just that there are more avenues than CGI
[20:27] <reisio> yeah, but coffee shop wifi is insecure regardless of bash
[20:27] <reisio> always, forever
[20:28] <leeyaa> reisio: they are behind pretty secure firewall
[20:28] <ketralni`> inscure in traffic snooping, sure. insecure in remote code execution? I sure as hell hope not
[20:28] <reisio> leeyaa: just saying :)
[20:28] <leeyaa> reisio: i would like to apply all security updates on the vms that are not eol
[20:28] <reisio> everytime you connect to a strange network you're rolling the dice
[20:28] <nullbyte_> other variant to update gnome i know for PPA
[20:28] <nullbyte_> ?
[20:29] <leeyaa> so how to do only security updates, unattended ?
[20:30] <k1l_> nullbyte_: besides PPA?
[20:32] <leeyaa> is it unattended-upgrade ?
[20:32] <ulrichard> How can I suppress the installation of files in a certain directory (/usr/bin) for a deb package that uses python_distutils? I would usually create a debian/install file that lists all the other directories. But in this case I get errors telling me it doesn't find the files in these other directories.
[20:33] <betternick> hi!
[20:35] <imbezol> hey guys.. any idea why an apt-cache search would return lots of results while an aptitude search returns none?
[20:36] <imbezol> seems to be that way on multiple systems.
[20:36] <imbezol> ex: "apt-cache search commodore" vs "aptitude search commodore"
[20:36] <TJ-> imbezol: By default apt-cache searches all text, not just names (use "--names-only")
[20:36] <imbezol> TJ-: ok. can aptitude search all text?
[20:37] <TJ-> imbezol: I don't know; I don't use it
[20:38] <Crontical> ../.net
[20:38] <imbezol> http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html
[20:38] <delinquentme> It is exceptionally annoying that SOMETIMES I need to hit tab once ... to swap between windows on a desktop ... and other times I need to hit it twice ... is there a way I can make it always one tab to toggle between windows?
[20:39] <imbezol> nk
[20:40] <imbezol> tj-: thx. put me on the right track. "aptitude search ~dcommodore" would be equivalent
[20:45] <hichris123> hmm, I strace'd the sigaction.c from http://crbug.com/245680 running as both root and my user, and here's what I got: my user: https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/631beef99770c29bfab1 root: https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/f2c1011a6addab46fa48
[20:46] <hichris123> Why wouldn't I be allowed to use sigaction as a normal user, but I would as root?
[20:47] <samthewildone> Ok I need to speak to a professional.
[20:47] <samthewildone> Is there a way to fix the bluetooth ?
[20:47] <samthewildone> Let me rephrase, bluetooth works. However to connect to it via my headset it a pain everytime I want to use my headset.
[20:48] <Bubo> any ideas why after boot-repair it didn't boot into ubuntu nor it gave me a menu to choose from it just went in windows?
[20:48] <Bubo> on uefi
[20:48] <samthewildone> I literally have to remove the device from the bluetooth devices and repair it again.
[20:48] <Eremo> hell
[20:49] <Eremo> hello*
[20:49] <Eremo> is it possible to ask a technical question here related with apt ?
[20:49] <chalalameon> sad
[20:50] <k1l_> Eremo: just ask, if its a ubuntu issue
[20:50] <Eremo> i read support channel, sorry im not used to freenode
[20:50] <testerr> Hello, all! I'm trying to run a script with the following permissions (from ls -l): -rwxrwx--x 1 root root     I'm getting "permission denied," though, trying to execute as a non-root user. Shouldn't any user be able to run the script with those permissions, even if it's owned by root?
[20:50] <xangua> samthewildone: you could start by mentioning our searching about your specific bluetooth
[20:50] <Eremo> i have like a broken package, and i cant install or uninstall it
[20:50] <Eremo> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:50] <testerr> (This is in 14.04 Server)
[20:51] <squinty> Bubo:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI   see if any of that applies to your system
[20:51] <Eremo> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.19-11_al.deb (--unpack)
[20:51] <Eremo> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (broken pipe)
[20:51] <Eremo> E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:52] <Eremo> all started when tried to install build-esentials
[20:52] <cjenkin1> Is there somewhere else I can go besides #linux-wireless for help with my wireless troubles? The channel is basically dead
[20:52] <Bubo> squinty, no. I've had the same problem with arch linux. Been trying to install it for 2 days, it always and up booting into windows no matter which bootloader I try (gummiboot, grub) so I gave up and tried ubuntu.. same thing
[20:53] <nullbyte_> k1l_: ?
[20:53] <cjenkin1> Or alternatively, if anyone here is a semi-expert on Ubuntu 10.10 and wpa_supplicant 0.6.10 and wants to give me a hand...?
[20:53] <k1l_> Eremo: put all the output into a pastebin please
[20:53] <ObrienDave> cjenkin1, what system are you running?
[20:53] <k1l_> !paste | Eremo
[20:53] <cjenkin1> ObrienDave: Hardware?
[20:53] <Eremo> k1l_ ok ill
[20:54] <nullbyte_> k1l_: what
[20:54] <ObrienDave> cjenkin1, linux version
[20:54] <cjenkin1> ObrienDave: Ubuntu 10.10, wpa_supplicant 0.6.10, kernel 2.6.38+
[20:54] <k1l_> nullbyte_: can you please rephrase your question?
[20:54] <hichris123> Anyone here know about sigaction at all? Or able to help read a strace? What does this mean? https://gist.github.com/hichris1234/631beef99770c29bfab1
[20:55] <nullbyte_> k1l_: i mean there is not other variant like pppa for newer gnome version?
[20:55] <nullbyte_> no..
[20:55] <pce> hi
[20:55] <cjenkin1> And before you say anything, no I cannot get a newer version of Ubuntu. The hardware is a special embedded system
[20:55] <nullbyte_> pce hi pci EXPRESS
[20:55] <nullbyte_> :)
[20:55] <pce> :)
[20:55] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what is the system ?
[20:55] <k1l_> nullbyte_: no. the versions stay the same on the release. just a next release will get a newer gnome-shell
[20:56] <nullbyte_> k1l_ okey :)
[20:56] <nullbyte_> thx
[20:56] <cjenkin1> ikonia: a in-house machine with an i.MX53 CPU and a special Sagrad wireless device
[20:56] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what arch is it ?
[20:56] <cjenkin1> Arm
[20:56] <Eremo> k1l_ do you know anyhow to copy text inside a VM through vmware?
[20:56] <pce> cu soon
[20:56] <ikonia> yeah, that's not going to get supported here
[20:56] <ikonia> cjenkin1: sadly 10.10 is dead and the arm distro is community (dead really) support.
[20:57] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I get that I can't get help for the hardware, but I'd like to find someone to help me interpret what the software level stuff is saying, at least
[20:57] <cjenkin1> But I think I need a semi-expert for that
[20:57] <ikonia> cjenkin1: I don't think you need semi-expert
[20:57] <ikonia> cjenkin1: what's the error ?
[20:58] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I am able to access some APs, but one type always times out on authentication
[20:58] <cjenkin1> It's WPS, WPA-CCMP (at least this one)
[20:58] <ikonia> cjenkin1: thats not the software
[20:59] <ikonia> cjenkin1: you stated you wanted someone to interperate what the software is saying
[20:59] <ikonia> cjenkin1: so what's the software messages
[20:59] <wad> I'm using 14.04 LTS, and I'm trying to build some code that depends on automake-1.13. But "apt-get install automake" installed version 1.14 instead. What's the right way to install 1.13? Is there a .deb somewhere I could just install? Or am I doing this wrong? Thanks in advance!
[20:59] <cjenkin1> one about "TX EAPOL: dropped in non-802.11 mode" looks the most promising
[21:00] <ikonia> so if it's dropping to non-802.11 mode means it's communicating outside the 802.11 standard
[21:00] <ikonia> or wants to communicate outside the standard
[21:00] <cjenkin1> Right, but I thought WPA-CCMP was in the 802.11 family?
[21:01] <ikonia> cjenkin1: that isn't really relevent, as for whatever reason it's not using the 802.11 standard comms
[21:01] <hichris123> hmm, looks like what it chokes on is bdflush, because "bdflush() = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)"
[21:01] <ikonia> I'm sure errors before/after would help explain why
[21:01] <hichris123> I wonder where bdflush is getting called: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/attachmentText?id=245680&aid=2456800004000&name=sigaction.c&token=ABZ6GAf95eWFG8nnsr7GczIPxbA8eIsooQ%3A1411677274123
[21:02] <cjenkin1> ikonia: I've studied the logs of both the successful and unsuccessful connects with Meld and there's honestly not a big difference.
[21:02] <cjenkin1> The fail one is seen as a WPS-AP, the succeed a WPA-AP
[21:02] <ikonia> apart from one is communicating outside the 802.11 standard
[21:02] <ikonia> which is is a pretty big difference
[21:03] <cjenkin1> Right, I mean besides that one
[21:03] <ikonia> cjenkin1: that's pretty critical though
[21:03] <TJ-> cjenkin1: Isn't the message actually "...802.1X mode ..." not "... 802.11 mode ..." ?
[21:03] <cjenkin1> Ok, well at least it seems I'm on the right track
[21:04] <cjenkin1> TJ-: Yes, with a variable
[21:04] <TJ-> cjenkin1: 802.1X is a port-based authentication method
[21:04] <ikonia> cjenkin1: be specific if what TJ- thats a different message and means a different thing
[21:05] <cjenkin1> ikonia: Apologies. Very unfamiliar with wireless protocols
[21:05] <cjenkin1> Definitely is: non-IEEE 802.1x mode
[21:08] <cjenkin1> Oh dear, I just realized that I have to go. D: Sorry to ask a question and split. If you're around later and still want to help, I'll be back later. Thanks for trying to help :)
[21:09]  * aerocarbine is saying hi
[21:09] <jr_> Is there something being done about "shellshock"?
[21:09] <jr_> can I patch it somehow?
[21:10] <k1l_> !shellstorm | jr_
[21:10] <jr_> ?
[21:10] <TJ-> jr__ if you really want to, but better to just install the security updates
[21:10] <k1l_> !shellshock | jr_
[21:10] <jr_> thanks
[21:10] <jr_> TJ-: could I just run apt-get upgrade?
[21:11] <k1l_> jr_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:11] <TJ-> jr_: We're still waiting for the full fix that covers CVE-2014-7169 as well
[21:11] <squinty> jr_: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2362-1/
[21:13] <R13ose> how come I can't play an mp4 file in vlc media player?
[21:14] <Eremo> guys, to send output to a textfile in terminal, but also SEE it in screen, so i can answer the prompt questions during the command execution... how to do that? I try with > somefile.txt, but i cant see output so i cant answer prompt questions.
[21:15] <TJ-> Eremo: "cmd | tee somefile.txt"
[21:15] <Mike9863> I am trying to import a public PGP key using seahorse. I copied the public key block to a file and then used File -> Import to add it. It shows the key details in a window, but after I click import nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong?
[21:16] <Eremo> thanks TJ
[21:17] <Mike9863> Nevermind, the view was set to only show personal.
[21:21] <Eremo> TJ- there is some kind of problem , it creates the file, but it only copy half of the terminal. why can that be?
[21:21] <Eremo> i need to copy an error, but the error its not in the file , but i can see in screen as output
[21:26] <TJ-> Eremo: Because "cmd" is writing to /dev/stderr as well as /dev/stdout - use "cmd |& tee somefile.txt"
[21:27] <Eremo> thanks again
[21:27] <carbon13> Eremo, it is easier to use 'cmd > output.txt'
[21:28] <TJ-> carbon13: No, it isn't
[21:28] <carbon13> T3, less typing
[21:28] <TJ-> carbon13: No. Eremo  wants to interact with "cmd" whilst capturing all its output
[21:31] <carbon13> T3, ok. no pun intended
[21:31] <Eremo> Tj all done, thanks a lot
[21:32] <Eremo> one last thing... do someone have an idea how to trainsfer text file from ubuntu without X to windows? i got ubuntu on vmware and need that text file. should i install links or is there other way?
[21:32] <Eremo> transfer*
[21:34] <TJ-> Eremo: "smbclient .... put $LOCALFILE [$REMOTEFILE]"
[21:34] <Eremo> thanks! ill try that
[21:36] <Eremo> TJ- and if i can't use apt-get because an issue? XD
[21:41] <fedora_newb> I have a video card of 770m with the driver 340.32 driver being used. Every once in awhile I get these 'artifacts' / glitches where certain parts of text and/or parts of the screen start blinking/disappearing. Only stops when I move the window around or resize. This is on a laptop with an external monitor connected by hdmi. Happens on both screens. Any ideas on how to stop this from happening?
[21:42] <DopeGhoti> I don't suppose this channel will be a notification channel for when a patch for CVE-2014-7169 drops?
[21:42] <k1l_> !shellshock | DopeGhoti
[21:43] <DopeGhoti> Huh, I just ran apt-get update and saw no new bash release
[21:43] <DopeGhoti> I'll check again
[21:44] <k1l_> DopeGhoti: read the links please. the first patch from the bash guys is already spread in ubuntu but they are still working on a patch for the whole issue
[21:44] <squinty> DopeGhoti:  you need to run   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   too
[21:46] <DopeGhoti> k1l_: yeah, I got the patch for 6271 yesterday, I was asking if once a patch _is_ out for *7169*, this channel would get a topic update or somesuch
[21:47] <ecky--ptang-zoob> Can I edit php.ini without root access?
[21:47] <TJ-> DopeGhoti: Check #ubuntu-hardened for security issues
[21:47] <DopeGhoti> TJ-: thanks
[21:52] <isene> After upgrading to a new laptop and a fresh install of 14.04, I have some font issues. Most noticeably, the three norwegian letters (æ,ø,å) are bigger than the other letters. Also, parenthesis () are abnormally big (while [] and {} reamins normal size). I have been doing all kinds of acrobatics to fix this, but no go. Any pointers?
[21:54] <sachina_> Hello, I'm looking for some help with a package dependency issue.  I am trying to install a 32 bit program on a 64 bit ubuntu operating system.
[21:55] <nomic> you install ia32lib
[21:56] <nomic> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[21:57] <nomic> sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[21:57] <nomic> sudo apt-get update
[21:57] <cordyceps> news for shellshock?
[21:57] <nomic> sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386
[21:57] <nomic> says that article
[21:57] <k1l_> !shellshock | cordyceps
[21:57] <cordyceps> thx
[21:58] <sachina_> Thanks, nomic
[21:58] <sachina_> I've got most of the libraries I need working, doing steps like those
[21:59] <sachina_> But, there's one I need, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2, that depends on an architecture indepentent package, overlay-scrollbar
[21:59] <sachina_> sorry, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386
[22:00] <sachina_> which depends in actuality, I think, on overlay-scrollbar
[22:00] <sachina_> but the package managers look for overlay-scrollbar:i386
[22:00] <sachina_> and of course, since overlay-scrollbar is architecture independent, overlay-scrollbar:i386 doesn't exist and can't be resolved
[22:04] <Guest___> 1st ;p
[22:05] <Eremo> k1l_ ... i went too fat
[22:05] <Eremo> far*
[22:06] <Eremo> i've managed to copy the bash text for beeing able to paste it here... i have it on a txt file on my virtual machine of ubuntu
[22:06] <daftykins> !paste
[22:06] <Eremo> ive created a new webhosting, freehosting, just to access de FTP to upload txt file..
[22:06] <Eremo> so i can use it in windows so paste it here lol
[22:07] <Eremo> but this free doman suck , and ftp user doesnt have enought right to upload file to my own site...
[22:07] <Eremo> so... im kind of stuck... but im on it
[22:07] <Eremo> if someone knows any free ftp host, its just a text file ... 1kb or 2
[22:08] <daftykins> Eremo: install the package 'pastebinit' then run "pastebinit file" to share 'file'
[22:08] <nubnub> does apt-get update and upgrade fix the bash security issue that everyone is talking about?
[22:08] <Eremo> daftykins i cant use apt-get ..
[22:08] <daftykins> nubnub: it will install a patch if you're on a supported release, yes
[22:09] <wrongplace> are there linux iphones?
[22:09] <Eremo> its fckd up :D
[22:09] <daftykins> wrongplace: no
[22:09] <daftykins> !touch | wrongplace
[22:09] <Eremo> anyone of u host a ftp on his machine?
[22:09] <nubnub> daftykins: i'm on 12.04, is that good?
[22:10] <daftykins> nubnub: yes
[22:10] <NGC3982> Oh hai!
[22:10] <nubnub> daftykins: thanks
[22:10] <Eremo> please someone who has ftp service active.. xD
[22:11] <NGC3982> Yes?
[22:11] <Eremo> can i upload a little file? and then u paste it to me please?
[22:11] <daftykins> Eremo: no and stop asking please.
[22:11] <Eremo> i was asking NGC3982 ... and just because he answered me
[22:12] <daftykins> sure, but cut the repeating please
[22:12] <NGC3982> Eremo: For what reason?
[22:12] <Eremo> maybe u are reading the same words all the time, but they arent.
[22:12] <NGC3982> Asking strangers for server access is basiclly faux pas.
[22:12] <Eremo> im stucked in virtual machine, cant get the output from there... so i used |& tee command to put output in a file.
[22:12] <Eremo> so now i can upload the file anywhere
[22:13] <Eremo> well im not interested on any evil purpose... i just want to fix my apt-get, but of course u can distrust me
[22:14] <NGC3982> And FTP is your only upload option?
[22:14] <cordyceps> Eremo: evil people always say that ;)
[22:14] <Eremo> well.. i cant install anything through apt-get
[22:14] <Eremo> hahahha
[22:14] <NGC3982> Can you wget?
[22:14] <Eremo> yes
[22:14] <Eremo> i can wget
[22:14] <NGC3982> What about dpkg then?
[22:14] <Eremo> i did it to download few files
[22:15] <TJ-> Eremo: As I said earlier; use "smbclient //$WINDOWS_SERVER_NETBIOS_NAME/$DESTINATION_DIRECTORY -U $WINDOWS_USER%$WINDOWS_PASSWORD -I $WINDOWS_HOST_IP -c "put filename.ext" "
[22:15] <Eremo> i think i cant, because my problem its on dpkg
[22:15] <Eremo> tj i answerd u before, i cant use apt-get install, so idont have smbclient
[22:15] <TJ-> Eremo: Oh, that was what you meant ... I thought you meant apt-get was a separate issue!
[22:16] <Eremo> the main issue its apt-get... this file think its just to paste you all the output
[22:16] <Eremo> file thing*
[22:16] <TJ-> Eremo: "pastebinit filename.ext"  ?
[22:16] <Eremo> its by default on ubuntu server?
[22:16] <Eremo> let me try
[22:17] <Eremo> nope
[22:17] <Eremo> currently not installed, cant pastenbinit
[22:18] <squinty> Eremo:  just log onto a "pastebin" site and then upload or copy/paste the file contents. return the url back into here
[22:18] <NGC3982> Lynx into pastebin.org? ;)
[22:18] <Eremo> i dont have links
[22:18] <Eremo> aaah its lynx
[22:18] <Eremo> let me try
[22:18] <NGC3982> Lynx != Links
[22:18] <NGC3982> But you might have it preinstalled.
[22:18]  * nubnub gets some popcorn and watches the show...
[22:18] <Eremo> lynx currently not installed
[22:19]  * Eremo its nuuber than nubnub
[22:19] <squinty> Eremo:  http://dpaste.com/    http://pastebin.com/   or similar     just use your web browser
[22:19] <Eremo> is it possible without X and without lynx or links?
[22:19] <TJ-> Eremo: change-directory to where the file is, then do "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000"   then connect from the Windows host's browser to the Guest VM's http://$IP:8000
[22:20] <Eremo> oki ill try that tj
[22:20] <Eremo> thx
[22:21] <Eremo> wait
[22:22] <Eremo> machine has its own nat ip
[22:22] <Eremo> i must figure out
[22:22] <Eremo> something like iponfig
[22:22] <Eremo> ipconfig
[22:22] <squinty> Eremo: ifconfig
[22:22] <squinty> Eremo:  could also possibly   putty/ssh too
[22:23] <Eremo> yeeeahh worked out finally
[22:23] <Eremo> thanks a lot
[22:24] <Eremo> !paste
[22:25] <Eremo> I got a problem with apt-get, i cant use it at all, here its the paste bin, result of command: sudo apt-get install -f
[22:25] <Eremo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8428644/
[22:25] <AnotherSomeone> Hi, how can I install unity 8 and mir
[22:26] <AnotherSomeone> on ubuntu trusty
[22:28] <AnotherSomeone> can someone answer?
[22:28] <sachina_> AnotherSomeone, I can give it a go, it may take a moment
[22:28] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: there is a mir preview package. but be aware that is heavly alpha state
[22:29] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, I know, but how do I install it?
[22:30] <k1l_> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir
[22:30] <TJ-> Eremo: Why are you trying to install Debian packages on an Ubuntu server?
[22:30] <Eremo> i wasnt... or i dot know i wasnt
[22:30] <k1l_> Eremo: (i am back now) well, do you have 3rd party packages installed or PPAs active?
[22:30] <Eremo> i always use apt-get
[22:31] <Eremo> yeah! winrar
[22:31] <Eremo> i remember i follow instructions on winrar site
[22:31] <Eremo> and added a line to the repository
[22:31] <AnotherSomeone> I installed that, but it's not starting. I don't have a display manager and if I try to install lightdm it tells me it will install gnome and Xorg too
[22:31] <sachina_> nomic, I looked into some of the things you mentioned, it doesn't seem to be working
[22:31] <Eremo> and all was a loose of time, because i finally used tar command
[22:32] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: what? you dont have a *dm?
[22:32] <TJ-> Eremo: "locales_2.19-11" is from Debian
[22:32] <Eremo> how could i remove all of it?
[22:32] <sachina_> I could use some help resolving package:i386 dependencies on Architecture:all packages
[22:32] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, no, I want ubuntu with unity 8 and no xorg and unity 7, so I installed ubuntu server and now I want to install unity8
[22:33] <k1l_> !info locales | Eremo
[22:33] <Eremo> all i did was add this to sources.list : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: that is the verison from 14.04. we dont have a 2.19 anywhere (not even in 14.10)
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: :/
[22:33] <k1l_> Eremo: that is the cause of the issue
[22:33] <AnotherSomeone> k1l_, also, if I use --no-install-recommends on lightdm it doesn't start
[22:34] <agrppa> how can i set .ica files to open w the Citrix wfica??? anyone?
[22:34] <k1l_> AnotherSomeone: well, you will need a lightdm and some xorg stuff since its a preview and not a complete own xserver
[22:34] <isene> No matter what I do in gnome-tweak-tool to change the system fonts, I still get oversized parenthesis and exlamation marks (in file open dialog and elsewhere). Help?
[22:35] <Eremo> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/locales_2.19-11_all.deb (--unpack):
[22:36] <Eremo> so, locales 2.19-11 its for debian
[22:36] <trism> AnotherSomeone: you need a greeter for lightdm to start, and the greeters are only recommends because otherwise they cause issues with seeds
[22:36] <Eremo> how could possibly this reach to my computer? maybe its a dependence of build-esentials?
[22:36] <AnotherSomeone> trism, so how do I install lightdm + greeter without gnome
[22:37] <Netham45> So, whatever process I have that uses ALSA ends up going <defunct> when it tries to close. The audio is also all crackly and broken. Using a USB sound card, anyone got any ideas?
[22:37] <sachina_> can I please get some help with my 64 bit dependency problem? I need to install overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386
[22:37] <Eremo> ive tried apt-get clear , but wont work neither
[22:37] <sachina_> on Trusty
[22:38] <tafa2> can anyone recommend a good site to get security updates/notifications for OS's etc
[22:38] <k1l_> !usn | tafa2
[22:39] <squinty> Eremo:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/    see if the debian repo is listed there.  if yes, delete it and then run   sudo apt-get update  again.   if no errors reported then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[22:39] <Eremo> ill just remove the line i added too ok? i dont need it anyway
[22:39] <tafa2> k1l_ thanks
[22:40] <Eremo> thanks squinty ill do it
[22:40] <tafa2> k1l_ know anything that is specific to the industry by any chance?
[22:41] <Eremo> that gives no output squinty
[22:41] <k1l_> tafa2: well that is out of the scope of this channel. maybe in #ubuntu-offtopic someone knows
[22:42] <squinty> Eremo:  which?   sudo apt-get update  ???  should see a ton of stuff scrolling on screen
[22:42] <Eremo> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[22:43] <TJ-> tafa2: the Openwall oss-security mailing list, the Mitre CVE database
[22:43] <squinty> Eremo:  ok then remove the debian ppa reference from where ever you put it (sources.lst  maybe??)
[22:43] <TJ-> Eremo: squinty wanted you to find and remove the APT sources entry for the debian.org repository, where-ever it is
[22:44] <DracoDan> and now for a weird possibly hopeless question... I'm running a bastardized build of ubuntu 12.04 on a server (it's actually my SAN using linux-iscsi).  When I built it I needed a newer kernel than 12.04 provided so I forced it to install the 12.10 kernel... and it worked perfectly for the last two years or so
[22:44] <DracoDan> but now I want to upgrade it
[22:44] <DracoDan> but I REALLY don't want to risk my data, since, as I said, it's my SAN
[22:44] <tafa2> TJ- thats usually my nickname on other servers... got so confused there... haha CVE is way too broad though I find
[22:45] <tafa2> thanks though :)
[22:45] <TJ-> DracoDan: Use the 12.04 HardWare Enablement packs if you want recent, supported kernels
[22:45] <DracoDan> at the time it didn't have the kernel I needed
[22:45] <Eremo> i feel like its going to work, i modified sources.list and ran apt-get install -f , ill tell u the results
[22:45] <DracoDan> I had to have kernel 3.5 for FC support with Linux SCSI target
[22:46] <Eremo> the line was this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[22:46] <Eremo> on sources.list , yes
[22:46] <squinty> yep
[22:46] <Eremo> i added manually to install rar package, that was stupid of me
[22:47] <Eremo> cuz was i really need was tar command, but i learned that after :P
[22:47] <Eremo> thanks guys for ur efforts!!
[22:47] <squinty> Eremo:  archive manager should handle rar iirc
[22:47] <squinty> Eremo:  aka  File Roller
[22:47] <Eremo> what means iirc?
[22:47] <squinty> if i recall correctly
[22:48] <Eremo> aahh oki !
[22:48] <Eremo> ok thanks, ill install that one if needed, for now tar did the job
[22:48] <daftykins> Eremo: have you been running debian this whole time?
[22:49] <Eremo> i firstly try tar, but i misspelled, thats why i went to winrar site.. because the file hasnt any extension at all
[22:49] <Eremo> later i found out about the command "File" xD
[22:49] <Eremo> its all a proccess
[22:49] <squinty> Eremo:  fwiw, ppa's are now added sepateratly to the  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/   directory rather than manually adding to the sources.list file
[22:49] <milkdog> Should i stream media on lan?
[22:50] <milkdog> I need easy to use media server should I use xmbc or videolan.
[22:50] <daftykins> milkdog: use whatever you like
[22:50] <tafa2> milkdog what are you trying to do exactly...
[22:50] <squinty> Eremo:  archive manager/File Roller or some variation of that depending on release etc should be part of the default install as far as I know
[22:50] <Eremo> mm thats a new way? i remember old way to do it was that
[22:50] <tafa2> it daftykins is in a super helpful mood...
[22:50] <ahoneybun> so no fix for the new bug?
[22:50] <milkdog> daftykins:lol, duh
[22:50] <Eremo> editing with nano the file
[22:51] <milkdog> i like alot lol
[22:51] <ahoneybun> shellshock
[22:51] <TJ-> ahoneybun: both CVEs patched and published
[22:51] <rww> one very recently, so apt-get update etc.
[22:51] <DracoDan> sooo.... I'm not sure about how ubuntu names certain packages, I'm a Red Hat admin normally...
[22:52] <DracoDan> but when I do apt-get -f install I see this warning:
[22:52] <DracoDan> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:52] <DracoDan>   linux-generic linux-image-extra-3.5.0-28-generic linux-image-generic linux-image-server linux-server
[22:52] <TJ-> !usn | ahoneybun
[22:52] <DracoDan> those seem.... important
[22:52] <rww> DracoDan: yeah, those are what you'd expect them to be :\
[22:52] <tafa2> DracoDan haha what? I've never seen that
[22:52] <DracoDan> the kernel
[22:52] <tafa2> Is that a VPS?
[22:53] <DracoDan> I bastardized this build and then ignored it for 2 years because it just worked...
[22:53] <tafa2> well then surely its updating
[22:53] <DracoDan> it acts as the SAN for my vsphere setup and also my file server...
[22:53] <DracoDan> NOPE!
[22:53] <DracoDan> lol
[22:53] <ahoneybun> TJ-, GNU bash, version 4.3.24(1)-release
[22:53] <tafa2> did u run apt-get upgrade
[22:54] <ahoneybun> and I still have it http://lifehacker.com/how-to-check-if-your-mac-or-linux-machine-is-vulnerable-1639211806?utm_campaign=socialflow_lifehacker_facebook&utm_source=lifehacker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
[22:54] <tafa2> oooooh SAN....
[22:54] <TJ-> DracoDan: Have you installed the HWE first? That would explain those packages being removed
[22:54] <tafa2> HWE?
[22:54] <squinty> TJ-:  thank's for the update.   new bash include in the update I just did
[22:54] <milkdog> i want a easy set up and stream to my backyard.yup prett much thats all.
[22:54] <k1l_> ahoneybun: what ubuntu version?
[22:54] <ahoneybun> I'm on 14.10 k1l_
[22:54] <DracoDan> TJ: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:54] <DracoDan>  linux-image-extra-3.5.0-28-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic but it is not installable
[22:54] <DracoDan>  linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic but it is not installable
[22:55] <k1l_> ahoneybun: well: #ubuntu+1 for that dev release.but there should be a 2nd update right now
[22:55] <DracoDan> trying to force it gives me the previous message about the kernel packages about to be removed
[22:55] <ahoneybun> k1l_, I just ran update & upgrade got a few updates but it is still there cuz I don't think bash got upgrade
[22:55] <DracoDan> why doesn't it tell me the damn package versions?!
[22:56] <daftykins> DracoDan: using that language is not going to get you any help. calm down.
[22:56] <squinty> ahoneybun:  apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <daftykins> DracoDan: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[22:56] <DracoDan> heh, I'm perfectly calm, lol
[22:56] <k1l_> ahoneybun: apt-cache policy bash
[22:56] <tafa2> milkdog you just want something to pick your videos that you already have?
[22:56] <tafa2> Or you want something to store as well?
[22:56] <DracoDan> Ubuntu quantal (development branch) \n \l
[22:57] <ahoneybun> running squinty
[22:57] <milkdog> tafa2:I heard of xbmc streaming on lan.My question is does vlc to a good job of streaming on lan?
[22:57] <hurin_> hi, everybody o/
[22:57] <tafa2> yeah
[22:57] <daftykins> DracoDan: what about "lsb-release -a" ?
[22:57] <tafa2> a really good job
[22:57] <tafa2> its called video lan player :)
[22:57] <tafa2> but xbmc is way ea
[22:57] <DracoDan>     you mean /etc/lsb-release?
[22:58] <tafa2> *easier to create a library etc...
[22:58] <milkdog> lol ok ok
[22:58] <daftykins> no it should run
[22:58] <sachina_> I'm looking for help installing Dward Fortress on Ubuntu Trusty
[22:58] <sachina_> *Dwarf Fortress
[22:58] <DracoDan> # lsb-release -a
[22:58] <DracoDan> No command 'lsb-release' found, did you mean:
[22:58] <DracoDan>  Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[22:58] <AnotherSomeone> .
[22:58] <DracoDan> I'm all kinds of broken, lol
[22:59] <hurin_> i'm trying to run an apache2 server on a ubuntu 14 with vhost, but i can't figure out how it works, whatever i'm doing i still can't get any other site than the default one >__<
[22:59] <k1l_> DracoDan: lsb_release    underscore, not minus
[22:59] <rww> DracoDan: it's lsb_release, not lsb-release
[22:59] <DracoDan> oops!
[22:59] <DracoDan> No LSB modules are available.
[22:59] <DracoDan> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[22:59] <DracoDan> Description:    Ubuntu quantal (development branch)
[22:59] <DracoDan> Release:        12.10
[22:59] <DracoDan> Codename:       quantal
[22:59] <squinty> DracoDan:  you might want to install   inxi   python system information script.  very useful for troubleshooting etc.  install from repo's and further info at https://code.google.com/p/inxi/
[23:00] <daftykins> DracoDan: 12.10, your release is unsupported then
[23:00] <blackangelpr> !bin | DracoDan
[23:00] <daftykins> DracoDan: you're going to have to update to a supported release... which in this case would be 12.04.5 or 14.04.1 - either of which would be easier to install with a clean install
[23:00] <DracoDan> yeah, I want to upgrade to 14.04
[23:01] <squinty> .1
[23:01] <DracoDan> can I avoid a clean install?
[23:01] <sachina_> Anyone?
[23:01] <DracoDan> well yeah
[23:01] <daftykins> DracoDan: it'd be a lot of hassle to try
[23:02] <k1l_> DracoDan: you can update to 13.04, then 13.10 then 14.04
[23:02] <DracoDan> I REALLY don't want to risk the configuration of targetcli
[23:02] <kostkon> DracoDan, the upgrade path would be 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 or just do a clean install o 14.04
[23:02] <kostkon> of*
[23:02] <k1l_> DracoDan: but you should have backups. murphy will strike no matter what you do
[23:02] <daftykins> so basically, the likelihood of something going wrong is huge
[23:03] <DracoDan> technically the data is on seperate disks, worst case is a total rebuild od the storage setup
[23:03] <DracoDan> but reconnecting to the storage
[23:03] <DracoDan> but targetcli is a pita!
[23:04] <hurin_> sorry, i'm just a newbie looking for some help about how i should configure my apache2 in the purpose to get my vhost working, i'm trying to do so since 2 hours and 3 tutorials and i still can't figure out what's going on
[23:04] <agrppa> use nginx
[23:04] <daftykins> hurin_: #ubuntu-server might be more relevant
[23:04] <daftykins> or i'd bet there's an apache channel too
[23:05] <hurin_> daftykins: i'm going to follow your advice, thank you
[23:06] <milkdog> tafa2:You use xbmc, you said its a very easy setup.
[23:06] <tafa2> define easy
[23:06] <tafa2> but yes I use
[23:07] <milkdog> For a streaming server.
[23:07] <tafa2> do you have a computer in teh backyard you can use just for XBMC?
[23:07] <reisio> I use ssh for a streaming server
[23:07] <tafa2> where do you keep your video files?
[23:07] <blackangelpr> milkdog, http://lifehacker.com/5536963/the-ultimate-start-to-finish-guide-to-your-xbmc-media-center
[23:08] <reisio> with a /5536963/ so that they can re-use 'the-ultimate-start-to-finish-guide-to-your-xbmc-media-center' for something else later? :p
[23:09] <milkdog> How about music files?Mp3 works with xbmc or no???
[23:09] <blackangelpr> i think its time to sit down and read
[23:09] <daftykins> milkdog: #xbmc is the channel, we don't support third party software
[23:09] <daftykins> milkdog: they also have a huge wiki and forum for help
[23:10] <squinty> milkdog:  fwiw, vlc has it's own support channel too
[23:12] <milkdog> tafa2:Yup yup all media files on my drive.
[23:12] <Zequal> Hey, I am trying to use rc.local to mount a drive. "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/test" If I type it manually, it works, but it won't execute on reboot.
[23:12] <tafa2> yeah dude just google and read up on xbmcbuntu
[23:12] <daftykins> Zequal: /etc/fstab is for permanent mounts, you're going about it wrong
[23:12] <milkdog> tafa2:lol you got netflix on linux yet???lol
[23:13] <tafa2> xbmc does have netflix I think yes
[23:13] <Eremo> guys why is setxkbmap command not recognized by my ubuntu distro?
[23:13] <Zequal> daftykins: I don't want to do permanent mounts, this is a USB and it needs to mount a partition that has a specific label..
[23:13] <daftykins> Eremo: you were feeding debian repos into your sources earlier, are you sure you're running ubuntu?
[23:13] <Eremo> since i ran apt-get install -f things look a bit different now :S
[23:14] <Eremo> daftykins my english its not very good... is that a joke about me or whats the purpose? XD
[23:14] <Zequal> daftykins: SPECMOUNT=`blkid | grep "foobar" | cut -d":" -f1`; mount $SPECMOUNT /foo/bar/
[23:15] <daftykins> Eremo: no it's a serious question, because you were using debian repos earlier
[23:15] <ssx> Hello folks, whats the default cron for updating security related packages?
[23:15] <Eremo> yeah i am using ubuntu
[23:15] <daftykins> 23:46 < Eremo> the line was this: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[23:15] <daftykins> 23:46 < Eremo> on sources.list , yes
[23:15] <ssx> or rather: how often does it run?
[23:15] <rww> Eremo: why were there Debian repositories in your APT configuration, then?
[23:16] <daftykins> Eremo: because that suggests you are not
[23:16] <Eremo> yeah daftykins we all get the point, i did a retarded edit on sources.list
[23:16] <welovfree> Hello, I am taking a course about Linux and I want you guide me to a good book, that discuss every topic (history, shell programming... etc) and the Linux distributions we are gonna use is Ubuntu
[23:16] <blackangelpr> ssx, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2004805
[23:16] <rww> Eremo: what's the output of lsb_release -a?
[23:16] <daftykins> !manual | welovfree
[23:17] <ssx> perfect, thank you
[23:17] <Eremo> description ubuntu 14.01.1 LTS , codename trusty
[23:17] <blackangelpr> welcome
[23:17] <welovfree> !manual
[23:17] <daftykins> welovfree: no don't type the trigger again, read the message
[23:17] <Eremo> daftykins sorry, actually you was serious, i though u was just making fun about my mistake, sorry.
[23:18] <daftykins> Eremo: understood
[23:18] <roccat> hi
[23:19] <roccat> hi
[23:19] <welovfree> daftykins: Is it discuss the shell programming?
[23:20] <daftykins> welovfree: check it out and see
[23:20] <sachina_> hello roccat
[23:20] <welovfree> daftykins: thank u very much 👍
[23:21] <wrongplace> how do I extract a daa file?
[23:21] <wrongplace> is to be used with wine, I need to extract it first
[23:21] <Eremo> Do anyone know's why my Trusty LTS won't recognize the setxkbmap command?
[23:22] <daftykins> wrongplace: from what i vaguely remember that's some image format windows software can handle
[23:22] <wrongplace> oops
[23:22] <wrongplace> cant it be extractud under linux?
[23:22] <daftykins> dunno
[23:22] <EriC^^> wrongplace: maybe cabextract?
[23:22] <EriC^^> !info cabextract
[23:23] <daftykins> it's usually a format for distributing illegal content though so i don't feel like assisting there (:
[23:23] <EriC^^> hrm
[23:23] <wrongplace> oic
[23:23] <welovfree> daftykins: where can I get the epub version of the manual?
[23:24] <daftykins> welovfree: i have no idea. i gave you all i know
[23:24] <welovfree> daftykins: and sorry for bothering you
[23:25] <blackangelpr> Ubuntu guide http://ubuntuguide.org/images/UbuntuguideTrusty_Pt1.pdf
[23:26] <reisio> ...
[23:39] <sachina_> Hello ubuntu channel, I am trying to install Dwarf Fortress on Ubuntu Trusty 64 bit.  It requires the package overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 to be installed, but when I try to install, I get an error that the package "overlay-scrollbar:i386" is required, and that package does not exist ("overlay-scrollbar" is architecture-independent).  Any help would be appreciated.  This is my first time on this channel, any guidance on how to parti
[23:40] <Eremo> sachina_ have u try install -f?
[23:40] <Eremo> with dependences?
[23:40] <Eremo> im a big newbie but maybe that could help
[23:41] <rypervenche> sachina_: You'll need multilibs set up. One second.
[23:41] <trism> sachina_: why would dwarf fortress possibly need the overlay scrollbar? what's the actual error
[23:41] <sachina_> Eremo, I'm reluctant to use install -f because I've been warned it can break my system.  But, I haven't tried it.
[23:42] <EriC^^> that's odd, also doesn't unity come with overlay scrolls bars by default
[23:42] <Eremo> oh , well, as long as there is other ways like seeking manually
[23:42] <daftykins> !info overlay-scrollbar
[23:42] <Eremo> didnt know about that thanks sachina
[23:42] <daftykins> sachina_: delete the :i386
[23:43] <rypervenche> sachina_: Yeah, listen to dafty.
[23:44] <sachina_> EricC^^: I get these errors when running the DF, overlay_scrollbar is the first of 3 things I need: Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "unity-gtk-module" Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[23:44] <YoukuntYou> How does one restore a missing systray? unity --replace brought back the En language marker in the corner, but no clock and no anything else, either
[23:44] <YoukuntYou> 14.04 Unity
[23:44] <Eremo> Do anyone know's why my Trusty LTS won't recognize the setxkbmap command? sudo: setxkbmap: command not found
[23:45] <sachina_> Delete the :i386?
[23:45] <EriC^^> Eremo: are you trying to remap a certain key?
[23:45] <trism> sachina_: that is fine, you don't need it, dwarf fortress does not need the overlay scrollbar
[23:45] <YoukuntYou> Trusty isn't the adjective that I'd choose.
[23:45] <trism> sachina_: if it isn't working, something else is wrong
[23:45] <Eremo> im trying to setup spanish keymap
[23:45] <Eremo> because im not getting what i want from reconfigure keyboard
[23:45] <sachina_> DF does seem to be working so far, it loads and plays sound and everything, and I can use the menu system fine
[23:46] <sachina_> but don't those errors mean something will go wrong later?
[23:46] <trism> sachina_: then you are good
[23:46] <sachina_> why would the program try to load modules it doesn't use?
[23:46] <EriC^^> sachina_: if you type apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar , does it say that it's installed?
[23:46] <trism> sachina_: nope if you look at the session errors you will probably see a bunch of those things, they are just warnings
[23:47] <sachina_> The places I looked elsewhere didn't have those errors, they do bother me.  I think I want to resolve them even if I don't need to... just in case.
[23:47] <sachina_> Eric^^ let me check
[23:48] <YoukuntYou> apt-cache search unity | grep tray | wc == 0
[23:48] <EriC^^> Eremo: did you try to change the keyboard layout? settings > text entry
[23:48] <Eremo> EriC^^ is that from gnome interface?
[23:48] <sachina_> Eric^^, I've been installing and uninstalling overlay-scrollbar, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2, overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 as I've been trying different things, but it has been installed sometimes
[23:49] <sachina_> I've been able to install overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 by using dpkg --ignore-dep as was suggested somewhere, and that error went away, but the package manager wouldn't let me install any new software after that
[23:50] <EriC^^> sachina_: overlay-scrollbar should be installed by default i think, it's what lets the scrollbar use the unconventional hidden style
[23:50] <sachina_> because it said there was a broken dpendency
[23:50] <sachina_> EriC^^: Oh, so that's what it does
[23:50] <EriC^^> sachina_: yeah, i think so
[23:50] <sachina_> EriC^^: Yes, it was installed when I started trying to install DF
[23:51] <EriC^^> sachina_: i have it installed by default i think
[23:51] <Eremo> sachina whats the name again of DF?
[23:51] <sachina_> Sorry, Dwarf Fortress, it's a game
[23:51] <EriC^^> sachina_: maybe DF was trying to install it as well, but it's odd that it would need it, what's DF ?
[23:52] <Eremo> i wanted to give it a look :)
[23:52] <sachina_> Eremo: :) I've heard it's quite good, very detailed in the simulation of the world
[23:52] <sachina_> Eremo: Oh, but maybe you meant you want to give it a look to help me *a little embarassed now*
[23:52] <trism> this is pretty silly, it is just a warning saying the ubuntu-patched gtk is trying to load the overlay scrollbars and can't, it is not a big deal
[23:53] <Eremo> no, about the gamming haha
[23:53] <EriC^^> sachina_: apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar | grep -i installed
[23:53] <trism> I'm sort of doubtful dwarf fortress uses scrollbars anyway
[23:53] <EriC^^> sachina_: will tell you if it's installed or not
[23:53] <Eremo> i dont think ive got the skills to help you :P
[23:54] <sachina_> Eremo: thank you for your input just the same
[23:54] <sachina_> EriC^^: apt-cache policy overlay-scrollbar | grep -i installed   Installed: (none)
[23:54] <sachina_> EriC^^: but that's because I just uninstalled it
[23:54] <Eremo> Eric, about what u told me before, Settings > text entry , is that a gnome menu?
[23:54] <EriC^^> Eremo: unity
[23:54] <EriC^^> Eremo: gnome might have it too
[23:55] <Eremo> but im in terminal
[23:55] <Eremo> without x
[23:55] <Eremo> its a server distro of ubuntu
[23:55] <sachina_> EriC^^: I'm trying to edit the package information using dpkg-deb, so I can fix the dependency so overlay-scrollbar-gtk2:i386 looks to depend on overlay-scrollbar, not overlay-scrollbar:i386
[23:56] <EriC^^> sachina_: yikes
[23:56] <Eremo> sachina im trying to get this distro working out, to host a MUD game :P
[23:56] <Eremo> its kind of similar
[23:57] <sachina_> Eremo: Oh, I've heard fun things about MUDs, I hope yours works out well
[23:57] <Eremo> roleplaying fantasy, lets see :P
[23:57] <Eremo> thanks