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| lotuspsychje | morning to all | 04:04 |
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| pitti | tedg: oh, sure | 07:41 |
| pitti | tedg: how do you mean that the upstart version changed? 1.11 is the one which introduce the split | 07:42 |
| pitti | tedg: oh, I see | 07:43 |
| pitti | tedg: MP updated | 07:44 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Dream Day! :-D | 08:02 |
| chrisc | hmm, no git available on rtm :-| | 09:06 |
| mitya57 | Hi, do I need to be subscribed to ubuntu-touch@lists.l.n to post to it? | 09:09 |
| mitya57 | I sent a message two days ago but it didn't arrive for some reason | 09:09 |
| chrisc | non-member posts probably have to be approved by a admin due to spam | 09:09 |
| chrisc | most lists are set up like this these days | 09:10 |
| mitya57 | I am member of ~ubuntu-phone, and sent from my @ubuntu.com address | 09:10 |
| chrisc | oh, i have no idea then | 09:11 |
| Mirv | mitya57: isn't the list address ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net ? | 09:12 |
| Mirv | membership of ~ubuntu-phone should be enough | 09:13 |
| mitya57 | Indeed, my message was sent to -phone@ | 09:13 |
| Mirv | hmm. | 09:14 |
| Mirv | popey: have you heard about any problems people having sending messages to ubuntu-phone ML? ^ | 09:14 |
| Mirv | I personally haven't | 09:14 |
| chrisc | i joined the list and sent a message yesterday without a issue, apart from a lack of response ;-) | 09:15 |
| popey | uh, no | 09:15 |
| popey | last mail to it was 9 hours ago | 09:16 |
| mitya57 | Ok, will try to resend from another address now | 09:17 |
| vitimiti | hi | 10:12 |
| jamesh | victorp or rhuddie: I was wondering if one of you could test out a fix I've been working on for https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner2/+bug/1358750 (since you both said you could reproduce the problem) | 10:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1358750 in unity-scope-mediascanner (Ubuntu) "[Video aggregator] New videos are added to the video scope only after reboot" [Critical,New] | 10:30 |
| jamesh | details on where to get the fixed packages are in the last message on the bug. | 10:31 |
| chelseawillrecov | hi | 10:36 |
| chelseawillrecov | anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Touch on Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 P3110 | 10:36 |
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| rhuddie | jamesh, sure. I'll take a look later today and let you know how I get on. | 11:12 |
| jamesh | rhuddie: thank you | 11:22 |
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| lool | bdmurray, ev: whoopsie is in rtm, thanks | 12:04 |
| lool | cyphermox: I'll give a spin to nm in rtm silo 12; would you like to test it too? | 12:05 |
| lool | cyphermox: also mind checking the proposed test in comments? | 12:05 |
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| cyphermox | lool: sure | 12:22 |
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| joachimvda_ | Can someone help me diagnoze why I am missing titles and buttons on various apps on my nexus4 with Ubuntu-touch | 12:32 |
| joachimvda_ | I have tried installing devel/ubuntu-rtm/ubuntu-rrm-proposed and the problem persists in all three | 12:33 |
| joachimvda_ | this makes ubuntu-phone hard to use and I have seen screenshots online which show the stuff I am missing | 12:33 |
| ogra_ | is that a virgin readonly image ? | 12:34 |
| joachimvda_ | for example, on the "about this phone" screen (from settings app), I cannot go back to the pervious page. The title is not visible. | 12:34 |
| joachimvda_ | I have put some stuff in there to make the phone usable, like an address book | 12:35 |
| joachimvda_ | and an Ubuntu One account to try to be able to install apps (though I miss that button too) | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | well, it works fine on an unhacks phone | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | *unhacked | 12:35 |
| joachimvda_ | what would be "hacked" about my phone? How could I possibly undo that? | 12:36 |
| joachimvda_ | This is a phone I bought a year ago to try out Ubuntu-touch - but it was not yet uable then. Trying again after using android in the mean time. | 12:37 |
| joachimvda_ | and yes I know it works fine for some. I would really lovez to get my phone in that state. | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | oh, i understood you had made it writable and installed some address book stuff | 12:39 |
| ogra_ | sorry, mis-read | 12:40 |
| joachimvda_ | no I just imported an address book to make sure I don't have to remember my contacts phone numbers | 12:40 |
| joachimvda_ | I had these problems before importing contacts | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | right, that shouldnt have any effect om the headers in system-settings | 12:41 |
| joachimvda_ | THere are also onther things missing. Like the "install" button on the screen with the apps which can be upgraded | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan2, do we know about any recent UITK breakage ? ^^^ that sounds like UITK | 12:42 |
| joachimvda_ | Some random "clicking" at the top of the screen where that button should be worked on that screen | 12:42 |
| bzoltan2 | ogra_: No I do not know | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | sounds a bit like icons cant be found | 12:43 |
| ogra_ | i think i saw something related in app smoketests this week | 12:43 |
| * ogra_ digs for the logs | 12:43 | |
| ogra_ | file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Icon10.qml:34:5: QML QQuickImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/back | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan2, like that ^^^ | 12:44 |
| joachimvda_ | Is there some log where I could find some info? | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | i see that in several app tests in the logs | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | joachimvda_, ~/.cache/upstart/ has all application logs | 12:47 |
| joachimvda_ | Where can I check if the icons exist? | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | no idea, i'm no toolkit guy :) | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | (but i'm upgrading to 257 here, lets see if i can confirm) | 12:50 |
| joachimvda_ | in application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings log I see a lot of stuff like | 12:54 |
| joachimvda_ | 2014-09-26 14:33:57,434 - WARNING - file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ListItems/LabelVisual.qml:35: TypeError: Cannot read property 'selected' of null | 12:54 |
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| joachimvda_ | I also see things like | 13:01 |
| joachimvda_ | 2014-09-26 15:00:22,055 - WARNING - file:///usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ListItems/Base.qml:176:5: QML ProgressionVisual: Warning: Style ProgressionVisualStyle.qml not found in theme themes.Ubuntu.Custom 2014-09-26 15:00:22,058 - WARNING - QQmlComponent: Component is not ready | 13:01 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, I have some fixes for the wifi panel ready. Would make sense to get them in the same silo I reckon. | 13:01 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, ok | 13:01 |
| jgdx | but first I need it reviewed. :P Can you take a look at [1] and [2] when you have time for it? [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-connect-is-not-dialog-fix-1366006/+merge/234842 [2] https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-previous-network-forget-returns-wrong-fix-1370389/+merge/236117 | 13:02 |
| alecu | seb128: gatox: hi guys, is this bug in your radar? | 13:04 |
| alecu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1330770 | 13:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1330770 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "click packages rely upon tls for integrity and authenticity" [High,Triaged] | 13:05 |
| alecu | seb128: gatox: I'm setting it to Critical, because it will affect every user. | 13:05 |
| gatox | alecu, it's in my queue | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | joachimvda_, i can not reproduce your issue on utopic-proposed 257 on mako (N4) here | 13:06 |
| alecu | gatox: great | 13:07 |
| dpm | pete-woods, is it still you that maintains the libusermetrics? | 13:07 |
| alecu | gatox: seb128: please let me know when you get to it if you need to discuss how to fix it. | 13:07 |
| joachimvda_ | ogra_ I kinda assume it is something on my phone as I already tried to install devel/rtm and rtm-proposed channels and have the same problem on all | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | did you use --bootstrap when installing ? | 13:10 |
| joachimvda_ | only the first time, not when switching | 13:10 |
| joachimvda_ | (from my understanding of the wiki that was not needed) | 13:10 |
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| joachimvda_ | I will try again with --bootstrap | 13:11 |
| dpm | pitti, do you happen to know if libusermetrics ships the translations in the touch language packs? (re: bug 1374441) | 13:12 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374441 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "Translations not loaded for "No data sources available"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374441 | 13:12 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, do you have debs for the previous network branch? | 13:15 |
| kenvandine | if not, i'll just wait for CI | 13:15 |
| pete-woods | dpm: I don't think the translations from libusrmetrics get into the touch langpack | 13:19 |
| pete-woods | just had a look at the contents of one of the lang packs | 13:19 |
| mardy | mpt: hi! Currently, in OA we are not showing any hint to the user that the web page is loading | 13:19 |
| mardy | mpt: should we use the same thin progress line as the browser? Or do you have a different suggestion? | 13:19 |
| pete-woods | I *think* I have all the right stuff in libusermetrics | 13:20 |
| Akiva-Thinkpad | morning all | 13:20 |
| dpm | thanks pete-woods. So its translations are shipped as .mo files in the .deb package, which I'd expect to load them. Let me investigate a bit more. In the meantime, do you have an idea why I might be getting bug 1374448 ? | 13:20 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374448 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "No infographics generated or shown on the welcome screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374448 | 13:20 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, no, but yeah, being built | 13:21 |
| pete-woods | dpm: yes. I have X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes | 13:21 |
| pete-woods | in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/libusermetrics/trunk/view/head:/debian/control | 13:21 |
| bzoltan2 | ogra_: what version of UITK do you have there? | 13:21 |
| pete-woods | to be honest, I thought that was all I needed to do | 13:21 |
| bzoltan2 | ogra_: the latest? | 13:21 |
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| ogra_ | bzoltan2, that error comes from the latest image smoke test | 13:21 |
| ogra_ | 257 ... from this morning | 13:22 |
| t1mp | does it have Candidate: 1.1.1262+14.10.20140922.2-0ubuntu1 ? | 13:22 |
| t1mp | for qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin | 13:22 |
| dpm | pete-woods, aha, I've found out why: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/14.09/+source/libusermetrics/+imports - that .pot file needs a one-off manual approval, let me do that now | 13:22 |
| ogra_ | bzoltan2, http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/mako/256:20140925.1:20140923.1/10703/ ... click on music or calcualtor and there click on any failed test | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | we see this message since one or two day | 13:24 |
| ogra_ | s | 13:24 |
| t1mp | ogra_: looks like this bug to me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1371509 | 13:26 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1371509 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Icons black in gallery from krillin #45" [Critical,Fix committed] | 13:26 |
| t1mp | ogra_: I'm not sure where the fix landed | 13:26 |
| ogra_ | t1mp, that landed a week ago or so | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | should be in all images | 13:27 |
| ogra_ | also note these tests are on mako | 13:27 |
| t1mp | ogra_: the bug title is misleading, the issue was present everywhere (I reproduced it on desktop) | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | ah | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | well, in any case it is fixed up to rtm | 13:28 |
| ogra_ | so it shouldnt affect todays (or yesterdays) images | 13:29 |
| dbarth | pitti: ping? we have a new oxide release which would require a new langpack generation to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/oxide/+bug/1224707 | 13:29 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1224707 in Oxide "Use a localized Accept-Language header" [Medium,Fix released] | 13:29 |
| joachimvda_ | ogra_ thx for the help, tried reinstalling with bootstrap and seems to be working now. Thanks for the help. | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:30 |
| ogra_ | awesome | 13:30 |
| seb128 | alecu, not on my list, but gatox does it seems | 13:32 |
| ev | anyone know the approach for self-signed click packages? I tried generating a gpg key, and feeding it to debsigs --sign=origin com.ubuntu.foo.click but debsig-verify complains: signature verification error: debsig: Could not open Origin dir /etc/debsig/policies/423911E9E3FEAD3A: No such file or directory | 13:33 |
| alecu | ev: I guess mvo_ or cjwatson should know about that | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | we don't have a written procedure for that yet and there are a few steps; but you could just --allow-unauthenticated | 13:39 |
| mvo_ | ev: you need to create a policy that allows your key, see click-ubuntu-policy for a example, | 13:39 |
| ev | cjwatson: the problem is getting adt-run to not whinge | 13:40 |
| ev | but yeah, maybe I hack that into place for now | 13:40 |
| ev | mvo_: cheers! | 13:40 |
| ev | I'll see which approach is quicker :) | 13:40 |
| tedg | dednick, Can you update this MR? https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/indicator-sound/slider-labels/+merge/228463 | 13:48 |
| dednick | tedg: sure | 13:48 |
| mpt_ | mardy, using the same progress bar as the browser is an excellent idea | 13:52 |
| dednick | tedg: done | 13:53 |
| mardy | mpt_: OK, thanks, I'll try to copy that one then | 13:54 |
| tedg | dednick, Cool thanks! | 13:54 |
| tedg | Trying to get to indicator-sound MRs. | 13:54 |
| seb128 | mardy, hey, do you know if qt has an api to parse desktop/ini files including localized values? | 13:55 |
| seb128 | mardy, the notification panel uses QSettings with .value("Name") but that always returns the english name | 13:56 |
| seb128 | mardy, is there an equivalent to g_key_file_get_locale_string () somewhere in qt? | 13:56 |
| mardy | seb128: AFAIK no, there isn't | 13:56 |
| seb128 | k | 13:56 |
| seb128 | I'm going to port that code to glib then :p | 13:56 |
| seb128 | thanks | 13:56 |
| kenvandine | gatox, can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/update_progress/+merge/235199 | 13:57 |
| gatox | kemmko, sure | 13:58 |
| gatox | kenvandine, sure | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:58 |
| kenvandine | thx | 13:58 |
| mardy | seb128: this might help: https://github.com/Razor-qt/razor-qt/blob/master/libraries/qtxdg/xdgdesktopfile.cpp#L590 | 13:59 |
| seb128 | mardy, thanks, but I prefer to use a supported glib function that having a local implementation of that parser | 14:00 |
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| mardy | seb128: we should build a QGLib library :-) | 14:08 |
| seb128 | mardy, :-) | 14:08 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, can you make sure the test plan is reflective of your wifi changes? | 14:09 |
| dobey | balloons, Mirv: can we fix all the ugly names of apps in the store please? (webapps-googlemaps for example should be "Google Maps") lots of our webapps have this .deb package style naming for the visible name of the thing | 14:09 |
| tedg | balloons, So are the music-app tests updated? Could we sync UAL to RTM without ill effects? | 14:10 |
| dobey | balloons, Mirv: also, where should one file bugs against these webapps that we manage? | 14:10 |
| balloons | tedg, the music app got updated yesterday with the tweaks you and ahazyen talked about | 14:11 |
| ogra_ | there is an LP project for the webapps ... | 14:11 |
| * ogra_ forgot which | 14:11 | |
| jgdx | kenvandine, sure | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, thx | 14:11 |
| cyphermox | should I be seeing logind signal PrepareForSleep on ubuntu-touch, just like it does on utopic? seems like it's not doing it for me right now, and that affects how NetworkManager deals with the wireless interfaces for deep sleep | 14:11 |
| tedg | balloons, Cool, so that means that it's in RTM now, or that there's a process before that testing works on RTM? | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | clicks land in both at the same time | 14:12 |
| balloons | dobey, I can help with the core apps, but not the webapps directly. There is indeed a project, let me find it | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | not sure about the AP tests though ... they might need source package migration to rtm | 14:13 |
| balloons | tedg, it should be in the test runs already.. | 14:13 |
| * balloons looks | 14:14 | |
| balloons | tedg, yea I can confirm the latest RTM run has the tweaks, I can see it in the output | 14:18 |
| tedg | balloons, Great, thanks! | 14:18 |
| barry | kenvandine: i landed LP: #1370586 in trunk and would like to get si 2.5 into the train. i want to first make sure that the implementation is going to solve your problem. how can we best test that that's the case? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image/+milestone/2.5 | 14:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1370586 in Ubuntu system image "Add synchronous method to determine if there are known updates" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1370586 | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | barry, did CI produce armhf debs? | 14:25 |
| barry | kenvandine: not yet. i haven't gotten it into citrain yet. if that's the best thing for you, i can do that today | 14:28 |
| barry | kenvandine: it's also arch-indep, so i can just build it in a ppa for you to test | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | barry, i'd appreciate it, i was hoping your CI built the debs for the MP | 14:29 |
| barry | kenvandine: we need to get better integrated with ci :( | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | barry, if you can just get me debs, that's fine | 14:29 |
| barry | kenvandine: cool. i will ping you when they're ready | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:30 |
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| tsdgeos | i have a few trivial i18n.tr add MRs | 15:02 |
| tsdgeos | anyone up to review them? | 15:02 |
| tsdgeos | seb128: you landing https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/ubuntu-system-settings/addi18ntr/+merge/235922 ? | 15:03 |
| tsdgeos | renato___: top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/mediaplayer-app/addi18ntr/+merge/235915 ? | 15:04 |
| renato___ | tsdgeos, done | 15:04 |
| tsdgeos | renato___: do you have time to check https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/dialer-app/addi18ntr/+merge/235920 and https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/address-book-app/addi18ntr/+merge/235912 ? | 15:05 |
| renato___ | tsdgeos, I am about to leave to lunch. Can I do that later? | 15:06 |
| seb128 | tsdgeos, kenvandine is doing a settings landing I think and it's on the list, why? | 15:06 |
| tsdgeos | renato___: sure, no hurries | 15:06 |
| tsdgeos | seb128: just to make sure it's not forgotten ^_^ | 15:06 |
| seb128 | it's not | 15:06 |
| seb128 | we do regular landing and include everything which is approved | 15:06 |
| seb128 | settings are just busy ;-) | 15:06 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, you tested the built debs? | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, yes | 15:13 |
| davmor2 | popey: who is the best person to talk to about file manager? | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, it popped to the right place | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | but the listitem was still there | 15:14 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, that was fast | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | clicking on the one i had just removed did produce an error | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | 2014-09-26 11:06:18,890 - WARNING - Error forgetting network: "Method "Delete" with signature "" on interface "org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Settings.Connection" doesn't exist | 15:14 |
| brendand | davmor2, popey isn't here | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, do we re-scale the aspect ratio of the icons in system-settings ? my battery looks kind of square in rtm #69 | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, there's a bug for that | 15:16 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, I didn't touch that part of the binding. Weird. | 15:16 |
| davmor2 | balloons: same question to you, who is the best person to talk to about filemanager :) | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | but we aren't going to fix it, there are icon changes coming | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, ah, fine then | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:16 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, could you try reinstalling uss from archive and see if you get the same error? | 15:18 |
| jgdx | (when time allows for it) | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, from the archive it pops back an extra level | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | so i won't see it | 15:19 |
| jgdx | but that warning comes from something happening in NetworkDetails. It won't matter how many pages are popped | 15:19 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, it only happens because the listitem is still there | 15:19 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, ah right. | 15:20 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, the lag is substantial | 15:20 |
| jgdx | can you wait two secs and see if it disappears? | 15:21 |
| jgdx | I'll have to compensate for the dbus lag. | 15:21 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, surte | 15:22 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, hm, does seem broken indeed. | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | waited... not getting removed :) | 15:23 |
| jgdx | how odd | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | maybe there is a missing change notification on the model? | 15:24 |
| jgdx | could be a race actually | 15:25 |
| qqz | Do you think it would be worth the effort trying to install Ubuntu on an old Samsung GT-I5700 (Galaxy Spica)? | 15:42 |
| dbarth | ogra_: hey, sorry i forgot which project to target to get a new pre-installed click | 15:44 |
| dbarth | ie, where to merge propose | 15:44 |
| tedg | mpt_, charles and I are talking about bug 1374511 | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | dbarth, lp:click.sync | 15:45 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374511 in Indicator Date and Time "Indicator should detect when Clock and Calendar are installed/removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374511 | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | dbarth,err lp:click-sync | 15:45 |
| tedg | mpt_, We're curious what the ideal behavior there should be. | 15:45 |
| tedg | mpt_, Should the menu item disappear, prompt an error, go to the install page? | 15:45 |
| dbarth | ogra_: ah thanks | 15:46 |
| mpt_ | tedg, disappear, I think. It’s a grey area, but the general guideline is to make something insensitive if it might reasonably become sensitive in the near future. “If you install a particular app” doesn’t really count. | 15:47 |
| tedg | mpt_, Cool I think we can do that, the installing is turning out to not work the way I thought :-) | 15:48 |
| tedg | charles, ^ | 15:48 |
| * nhaines votes it should crash Unity 8 and thrash user storage. | 15:49 | |
| tedg | nhaines, Always a possible option. | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | well | 15:49 |
| tedg | Perhaps not on purpose :-) | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | it should send a notification first though (a non dismissable one indeed) | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | so the user knows whats going on | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | "wiping all your data before crashing unity8" | 15:50 |
| qqz | The GT-i5700 device has only 180MB internal ram, but up to 32GB of microSD and a 800MHz CPU. | 15:51 |
| tedg | ogra_, We should definitely have a blue notification type, with small white letters, and UUIDs for error codes so that people can never report them. | 15:51 |
| nhaines | tedg: I've thought the promoted images were a little too boring lately. ;) | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | tedg, ° | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | err | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | ! | 15:51 |
| qqz | I don`t care about using it as telephone but is there any chance to run a bare ubuntu on it? | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | qqz, define "bare" | 15:52 |
| qqz | command line: bash | 15:52 |
| qqz | perhaps a dictionary | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | thats running underneath | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | and there is a developer mode ... and ssh if you want | 15:52 |
| qqz | can program some little gtk app for it on my own once there should be a working OS installed on my GT-i5700 | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | it is fully hackable ... note though that if you make it writable you lose the ability to upgrade | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | also the UI bits are tied into Mir and use the android drivers in the android container we ship | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | so dont expect graphical output if you want to use something else ... theoretically you can do everything you want with it as with a desktop ubuntu though ... (with the mentioned limitations) | 15:54 |
| qqz | ogra_: you mean it can never more be used with Android (make it writable you lose the ability to upgrade)? | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | heh, no, you can always re-flash android | 15:55 |
| nhaines | qqz: meaning the image-based system installer stops working because you don't have a base to delta update anymore. :) | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | you wont be able to get the daily image upgrade if you make the image writable ... (well, you will, but it will trash your changes) | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | you will also not be able to use apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | due to the system design | 15:56 |
| qqz | ok; that should be minor limitations; thx ogra_. | 15:56 |
| qqz | will read the manual and then likely come back for some help. | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | sure, we're here :) | 15:57 |
| rhuddie | jamesh, I just re-tested the video scope bug. Worked ok with the fix installed, I've added a comment to the bug | 15:57 |
| qqz | by the way will there be any way to make the phone avoid sending its IMEI all the time I switch my phone on; i.e. if I should not want to identify my current position towards the next mobile phone provider? | 16:00 |
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| ogra_ | i guess you would need to hack that | 16:01 |
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| dbarth | ogra_: otherwise, i was trying to get a langpack regen for oxide, can you help here? | 16:20 |
| dbarth | this would be to get sites in the right locale automatically | 16:20 |
| dbarth | we've fixed our setlocale domain or something | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | dbarth, nope, thats pitti or dpm country ... | 16:26 |
| dbarth | ah dpm! | 16:27 |
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| robotfuel | charles: ping https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-bluetooth/+bug/1358830 do you know who can ask to get this bug assigned to someone? | 16:45 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1358830 in indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu) "indicator-bluetooth is blank after disabling bluetooth from the indicator and enabling bluetooth in system settings" [Critical,Confirmed] | 16:45 |
| daker | dobey: hi, do you know if this issue is known https://i.imgur.com/3rh3Ilq.png ? | 16:47 |
| dobey | daker: i have never seen that before. how did you do that? | 16:47 |
| daker | dobey: ha magic :D | 16:47 |
| dobey | magic is not a supported feature :) | 16:48 |
| daker | here are the steps : | 16:48 |
| dobey | daker: anyway, looks like an issue with unity8 (or maybe qtmir), not the scope itself | 16:49 |
| nhaines | That reminds me that I'm sad you can't reorder favorite scopes. :) | 16:49 |
| nhaines | Because weather <3 | 16:49 |
| daker | dobey: yes, i'll report it against unity8 | 16:49 |
| dobey | nhaines: i just unfavorite all the scopes, so that only the apps scope is there. :) | 16:50 |
| charles | robotfuel, yes, I think that's a bug in unity8 rather than indicator-bluetooth | 16:51 |
| daker | nhaines: i do that by unfav/fav in the order i want | 16:51 |
| charles | robotfuel, that's a dupe of a ticket that dednick's assigned to, bug #1369866 | 16:51 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 1369866 could not be found | 16:51 |
| nhaines | daker: yes but I'm lazy and unfav/fav is annoying. :) | 16:52 |
| nhaines | Too many steps. | 16:52 |
| * dobey wonders how to get bluetooth working | 16:52 | |
| charles | actually, on that ticket it says there was a fix released a couple of days ago... | 16:52 |
| davmor2 | dobey: settings bluetooth select a device? | 16:52 |
| dobey | davmor2: not on n5 :) | 16:53 |
| nhaines | dobey: would be pretty nice. :) | 16:53 |
| davmor2 | dobey: oh okay then make it work :) | 16:53 |
| robotfuel | charles: ok I'll mark it as a dupe thanks | 16:53 |
| charles | robotfuel, already done | 16:54 |
| dobey | davmor2: but how?! :) | 16:54 |
| charles | if we want to be pedantic, 1358830 came first... but the other one's already got the attention :) | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | dobey: man it's easy you just make it not unwork man do I have to tell you everything ;) to be fair I have no idea whatsoever :( | 16:55 |
| dobey | heh | 16:55 |
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| kenvandine | seb128, so the storage calculations looked grep on krillin now, but testing on my mako and it's way off | 17:02 |
| kenvandine | says ubuntu is using 0 | 17:02 |
| kenvandine | total space is 2.1G | 17:02 |
| kenvandine | and free is 10G | 17:02 |
| kenvandine | s/grep/great/ :-p | 17:03 |
| kenvandine | seb128, any debugging info that would help? | 17:04 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I hate code | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | :) | 17:10 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, edit plugins/about/Storage.qml | 17:11 |
| seb128 | l44 | 17:11 |
| seb128 | in the allDrives loop | 17:11 |
| seb128 | console.warn(drive, type, path) | 17:11 |
| seb128 | then see what's printed | 17:12 |
| seb128 | I guess some disks/partitions are having an incorrect type | 17:12 |
| seb128 | the free 10G is correct right? | 17:12 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, luckily for you it's not compiled code ;-) | 17:12 |
| kenvandine | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8434266/ | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 17:13 |
| zyga | hi, I have a UbuntuListView with a simple ListModel inside, next to that there is a ListItem.Standard as a delegate. The model has a name and a 'selected' flag, the delegate has a CheckBox which manipulates the model's 'selected' flag value. This all works well BUT when I have a separate button (in the header) that alters the model (it sets all selected flags to true) that doesn't refresh my model's delegates. Am I doing something wrong or it that a bu | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | 10.5 is close | 17:13 |
| kenvandine | df says i have 9.8G free | 17:14 |
| seb128 | k | 17:14 |
| seb128 | GB/GBi maybe | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 17:14 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is / a 2.1G partition? | 17:14 |
| kenvandine | yes | 17:14 |
| seb128 | k | 17:14 |
| seb128 | so the code is correct... | 17:14 |
| seb128 | no other partition has type "1" in your list | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | used by ubuntu is 0 though | 17:15 |
| seb128 | WARNING - /home 0 | 17:15 |
| seb128 | well | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | /home is 13G | 17:16 |
| seb128 | right and that's type = UnknownDrive | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | that explains it | 17:16 |
| kenvandine | but why :) | 17:16 |
| seb128 | qtsystems' bug | 17:16 |
| seb128 | I guess | 17:16 |
| seb128 | which is why we added the unknown to the types list by then | 17:17 |
| seb128 | but then you gets things like bind mount and ecryptfs listed | 17:17 |
| seb128 | can't win | 17:17 |
| seb128 | I think the current settings code is correct and we need to fix qtsystems/figure what it doesn't like on mako | 17:17 |
| seb128 | oh, and the 0G comes from | 17:17 |
| seb128 | property real usedByUbuntu: diskSpace - | 17:18 |
| seb128 | freediskSpace - | 17:18 |
| seb128 | backendInfo.homeSize - | 17:18 |
| seb128 | backendInfo.totalClickSize | 17:18 |
| kenvandine | no homeSize | 17:18 |
| seb128 | diskSpace < freediskSpace in your case | 17:18 |
| seb128 | <kenvandine> says ubuntu is using 0 | 17:18 |
| kenvandine | /dev/mmcblk0p23 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,discard,data=ordered) | 17:18 |
| seb128 | I think the buggy "ubuntu" number comes from the buggy diskspace | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | yeah, that makes sense | 17:19 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8434330/ | 17:20 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, that function has the logic to determine the type | 17:21 |
| seb128 | should be easy enough to see where it goes wrong | 17:21 |
| daker | can someone confirm this bug 1374548 ? | 17:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374548 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Manage scopes view overlaps the scope preview" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374548 | 17:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, | 17:22 |
| seb128 | if (fsName.startsWith(QString(QStringLiteral("mmc")))) { | 17:22 |
| seb128 | // "removable" attribute is set only for removable media, and we may have internal mmc cards | 17:22 |
| seb128 | fsName = QString(QStringLiteral("/sys/block/")) + fsName + QString(QStringLiteral("/device/uevent")); | 17:22 |
| seb128 | QFile file(fsName); | 17:22 |
| kenvandine | just reading that | 17:22 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what is in /sys/block/mmcblk0p23/device/uevent ? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | (if I get fsName right) | 17:23 |
| kenvandine | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8434365/ | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | seb128, ^^ | 17:25 |
| seb128 | daker, confirmed | 17:25 |
| daker | seb128: thanks | 17:25 |
| kenvandine | if (qstrncmp(buf.constData() + 9, "MMC", 3) == 0) | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | seb128, not sure what that really does... | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | but that seems to be how it determines internal | 17:26 |
| kenvandine | seb128, and the path was actually /sys/block/mmcblk0/mmcblk0p23/uevent | 17:27 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, on killin it has MMC_TYPE=MMC | 17:27 |
| seb128 | which makes it work | 17:27 |
| seb128 | so unsure about that | 17:27 |
| seb128 | that's a question for a kernel hacker | 17:27 |
| seb128 | or a pitti | 17:28 |
| ogra_ | thats a question for an android developer :P | 17:28 |
| seb128 | or that ;-) | 17:28 |
| ogra_ | this is typical android mess | 17:28 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I don't think we should block the settings change on that, settings are correct imho and we need to sort out what is wrong between mako partitions and qtsystems logic | 17:29 |
| kenvandine | i'd agree | 17:29 |
| kenvandine | fixes the issue on krillin at least, and what was there on mako wasn't accurate anyway | 17:30 |
| ogra_ | well, they use completely different system designs | 17:30 |
| ogra_ | (loop mounted images vs actual partitions) | 17:30 |
| seb128 | ogra_, are we going to standardize on one of those solutions? | 17:31 |
| kenvandine | seb128, can you file a bug to track the mako issue? and i'll continue on with the silo? | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | we standardized on both :) | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | either way it was broken on both devices before... at least it works better on krillin now | 17:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I would suggest emailing ubuntu-phone@ with a "what's the right way to determine a mmc is internal to the device?" stating that qtsystems looks for MMC_TYPE=MMC and asking if that makes sense | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | broken differently though :) | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:32 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the new version works on desktop btw | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | seb128, one is for actual devices that will allow partitioning (i.e. preinstalled devices we have control over), the other is for all porters where the bootloader hardcodes the aprtitioning etc | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | so we need to support both variants | 17:33 |
| seb128 | ogra_, in the loop mount how do we determine the disk space? | 17:33 |
| seb128 | what partitions should we look at? | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | why do you look at partitions and not one layer up at the filesystem level ? | 17:34 |
| seb128 | we iterate over drives from qtsystems | 17:35 |
| seb128 | systemDrives = storageInfo.allLogicalDrives | 17:35 |
| seb128 | the issue is that we filter on the type = internal | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, qtsystems tries to guess what's internal/removable, etc | 17:36 |
| seb128 | to avoid having external partition, ecryptfs mounts, etc | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | and is guessing wrong for mako | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | well, that obviously gets tricky if you have a loop image inside a partition | 17:36 |
| seb128 | before we included unknown types | 17:36 |
| seb128 | but that leads to too much stuff being included | 17:36 |
| seb128 | like an ecryptfs partition | 17:36 |
| seb128 | or some tmpfs | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | you should talk to sergiusens ... he just had such probs with udisks2 for SD card stuff | 17:36 |
| seb128 | that's why I suggested emailing the list | 17:37 |
| seb128 | seems like the best way to get asynchronous participation from people who might know but are not on irc today | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | the point with the loop stuff is that you actually need to subtract the size of the loop image from the partition size | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | else you will always get it wrong as the mounted loop image will be counted rwice | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | so that's why on it doesn't have MMC_TYPE on mako, because that's actually seeing the loop image? | 17:42 |
| kenvandine | the device path is mmc, it knows that | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | yeh, most likely | 17:42 |
| kenvandine | so expects MMC_TYPE to be included | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | but as i said, it will count it twice if you dont substact the size of the loop device from the size of the partition it lives on | 17:43 |
| kenvandine | yeah, the numbers we got before felt double counted | 17:43 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, not sure if we could play out by including unknown types and filter on filesystem then | 17:49 |
| kenvandine | doubt it | 17:49 |
| seb128 | that would solve some issues like the tmpfs ones | 17:49 |
| seb128 | but not the bind/loop mounts | 17:49 |
| ogra_ | and it will likely be slower | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | oh, wait, you said filter ... ignore that :P | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, bah. we have the first fallout from the hardcoded passwd/group/shadow stuff :( | 18:01 |
| barry | kenvandine: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/ubuntu/systemimage/+packages | 18:04 |
| barry | kenvandine: i'm going to do my own testing for citrain, but i'm mostly curious whether the .Information() addition is going to solve your use case | 18:05 |
| kenvandine | barry, thx | 18:07 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, bug 1374553 | 18:07 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374553 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "In image rtm 69 infographics stopped functioning" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374553 | 18:07 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, any idea how we can make sure the homedirs are pre-created ? | 18:08 |
| ogra_ | (apart from just hardcoding a list) | 18:08 |
| stgraber | ogra_: doh, should have thought of that, sorry! | 18:17 |
| stgraber | ogra_: ok, so let me check what the list looks like see if I can script something that does the right thing (since there are paths we don't want to create) | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, well, this case is particulary tricky since usermetrics sets the permissing etc from postinst | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | *permissions | 18:18 |
| ogra_ | and iirc the service expects a certain set of perms | 18:19 |
| stgraber | ogra_: yeah, that's a problem, because I can create the paths, but I have no clue what the permissions need to be like | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | right | 18:20 |
| stgraber | ogra_: so I suspect we'll have to stick with an hardcoded list... not very much fond of that though | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | well, in case of usermetrics it wil actually work ... looking at the postinst | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | it checks if the dir exists and chowns/cmods | 18:21 |
| ogra_ | *chmods | 18:21 |
| stgraber | yeah but we'll still get problems with some of them when the directory is both listed in /etc/passwd and usually setup by the package | 18:23 |
| stgraber | because if we pre-create it, the package won't set the right permissions | 18:23 |
| ogra_ | right, not much we can do about that though | 18:24 |
| stgraber | and also, the user shouldn't always own the directory | 18:24 |
| ogra_ | if the postinst is as clever as the usermetrics one and keeps user creation and directory permissions distinct, all is fine | 18:24 |
| bfiller | balloons: how do I check if a click that i uploaded to the store has been approved? | 18:24 |
| stgraber | ogra_: can you run a quick check on an up to date device? go through /etc/passwd and check which don't exist (besides /nonexistent obviously)? | 18:24 |
| ogra_ | for packages where that isnt the case thats indeed tricky | 18:25 |
| stgraber | ogra_: that should help us figure out the best way out of this | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | yep | 18:25 |
| balloons | bfiller, it gives you the details on the portal page.. Shows' the review and status | 18:25 |
| bfiller | balloons: thanks | 18:26 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8434777/ ... | 18:27 |
| ogra_ | the lightdm one is essential too i think | 18:29 |
| ogra_ | oh, and pulse surely as well | 18:29 |
| stgraber | ogra_: pulse is in /run so there's no point creating that | 18:32 |
| stgraber | ogra_: so based on your list and comparing with a regular system, we're only missing /var/cache/man and /var/lib/lightdm | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | ignore man | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | we dont install it on the phone | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | (and wipe all manpages at build time) | 18:33 |
| stgraber | ogra_: ah right, so we can ignore man then | 18:33 |
| stgraber | ogra_: ok, so it's just usermetrics and lightdm then? | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | so lightdm is the other then | 18:33 |
| * ogra_ wonders about /home/syslog in his output | 18:35 | |
| stgraber | so there are two obvious ways around that 1) we just add 2 mkdir, 2 chown calls and 2 chmod calls to the hook or 2) we patch both packages to always create their runtime dir if it's missing regardless of whether the user already exists or not. | 18:35 |
| stgraber | ogra_: got the same on my desktop, that seems like an odd path for it but since it's never used, it's equivalent to /nonexistent | 18:35 |
| ogra_ | lets go for 1 | 18:35 |
| stgraber | ogra_: do you take care of it or should I? | 18:35 |
| ogra_ | it is easier to have the hacks in one centra place | 18:35 |
| stgraber | ogra_: my plan would be to put those in the first hook right after we write /etc/passwd | 18:36 |
| stgraber | actually, no, needs to be at the end of the script since we need /etc/group too | 18:37 |
| stgraber | ogra_: can you get me the uid, gid and mode of /var/lib/usermetrics? | 18:38 |
| ogra_ | drwxr-x--- 2 101 104 4,0K Sep 24 17:50 usermetrics | 18:38 |
| ogra_ | 101 and 104 | 18:38 |
| ogra_ | and from my rw path: | 18:39 |
| ogra_ | drwxr-x--- 2 108 111 4,0K Jan 1 2014 lightdm | 18:39 |
| stgraber | ogra_: bug number for that? | 18:40 |
| ogra_ | bug 1374553 | 18:40 |
| ubot5 | bug 1374553 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "In image rtm 69 infographics stopped functioning" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374553 | 18:40 |
| stgraber | uploaded | 18:41 |
| silverloc96 | Hi, can ubuntu touch run ubuntu 14.04 programs/games? | 19:34 |
| dobey | how does one even specify what directory and domain to use for translations in a qml app? | 20:19 |
| dobey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Translations is a bit of lies :-/ | 20:22 |
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| nith1210 | Good afternoon. Happy Friday! | 20:41 |
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| tedg | Uhg! No mterry! | 21:16 |
| vitimiti | hi | 22:41 |
| nik90 | stgraber: hey, I blogged about lxc for ubuntu-touch at http://nik90.com/fiddling-around-with-lxc-containers/ | 22:42 |
| nik90 | stgraber: I hope it is accurate :) | 22:42 |
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