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diddledanhands up everyone who's been awake all night fixing bash's shellshock!06:17
diddledanok ok, I've been fixing everything else, too06:18
diddledanprecipitated by bash, tho06:18
knightwisegood morning peeps06:21
diddledanlo06:21
knightwisehey diddledan06:23
knightwisehow are you dude ?06:23
diddledantired06:24
diddledanyou just missed my pronouncement of having been awake all night working on fixing bash's shellshock vuln06:25
knightwiseback06:42
knightwisejust patched my nix machines for the shell bug06:42
knightwisetoo bad my mac don't have no patch06:42
knightwisehmmm07:07
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popeymorning all07:53
jpdspopey: Morning.07:53
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Dream Day! :-D08:02
knightwisehey popey JamesTait jpds08:02
knightwisepopey: cat still sleeping on your neck like a scarf ?08:02
davmor2man the world dreams.....I wonder if it dreams of being a whale.....or a range of intergalatic tortoises with a world on top08:12
foobarrydavmor2 is stoned08:13
davmor2foobarry: no JamesTait said it was World Dream day08:14
foobarryi dream about travelling to work and i'm not wearing shoes08:15
davmor2and you think I'm stoned :P08:16
foobarryor i'm forever trying to pack for holiday and i can never finish08:16
JamesTaitdavmor2, Great A'Tuin is the world turtle, not a tortoise. ;)08:17
popeyknightwise: no thankfully!08:18
davmor2JamesTait: I couldn't remember which it was I was close though08:20
JamesTaitdavmor2, we knew what you meant!08:20
* JamesTait is making his way through the Discworld series again, at eldest son's bedtime.08:21
davmor2JamesTait: man I hate to think what his dreams are likely to be ;)08:21
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JamesTaitdavmor2, trains, probably. Lots and lots of trains. And Minecraft.08:23
smittixMorning all08:23
davmor2JamesTait: everything a growing kid needs :)08:26
davmor2JamesTait: you gonna take him to the NRM in york then?08:26
JamesTaitdavmor2, undoubtedly, at some point.08:26
JamesTaitdavmor2, we've done Etches Park depot, Great Central Railway, Midland Railway Centre, various train stations and level crossings.08:27
davmor2JamesTait: I can also recommend a trip to bridgenorth and jump on the Severn Valley Railway08:27
JamesTaitdavmor2, he's asked me to take photos of the train I go to London on, and if I go on a subway in the US he wants photos.08:30
foobarryi had a dream the other night that the 8.11 train was a steam train. but my 8.26 was a regualr commuter overground train. and i just missed the 8.11. it seemed to plant itself as a memory rather than a dream. i've only just recalled that it was a dream08:33
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davmor2JamesTait: you also get the hill train08:33
davmor2JamesTait: yes get your priorities man ;)08:34
foobarryhttp://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Submit-Great-giffgaff-Ideas/60-day-voicemail-frustration/idi-p/8605876 needs more votes09:08
foobarryany giffgaff users please vote :D09:08
* dutchie leaving giffgaff09:09
dutchiedue to shoddy signal where i live09:09
directhexwaiting for xperia z3 to ship, then will move to three09:12
directhexnot neccessarily to an xperia, but i want the option09:12
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:13
davmor2morning brobostigon09:15
dutchieyeah, i have a three sim in the post09:15
brobostigonmorning davmor209:15
dutchie& hi brobostigon09:16
* brobostigon has been with three for a few years now, because of the no FUP unlimited data.09:16
foobarryno FAP?09:16
brobostigonfup = fair usage policy09:16
foobarrysorry for reddit joke09:16
brobostigoni see09:17
directhexbrobostigon: there *is* a FUP!09:19
directhexbrobostigon: 1T per month.09:19
brobostigondirecthex: ok, last time i looked there wasnt, ok thank you. thats still a huge amount of data.09:20
directhexbrobostigon: i don't push that on fibre, in a month, with all the steam games09:20
brobostigondirecthex: i can imagine, it would be difficult to get anywhere near to.09:21
davmor2Tunes stuck in my head today are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrlhLaNClgw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwlogyj7nFE09:22
* brobostigon had enter sandman in his head yesterday09:23
directhexi've had "starlight" by the supermen lovers in my head a lot lately09:26
ujjainis dish washer tablets always th  same size?09:27
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directhexujjain: approximately09:27
directhexujjain: dishwashers with a tablet tray should accept any brand on the market, anyway09:28
ujjainah ok, I will get the discounted finish powerball then, they should fit then09:28
ujjainyeah right, I never boughth dishwasher tablets before, but should be fine then09:28
davmor2we should make a playlist of the tunes we have in our heads they are obviously the best tunes EVA!!!!! part 1 :)  it's always part 1 don't ask me why :D09:29
Myrttispotify collaborative playlist09:30
MyrttiI already have few of those earworm playlists from different groups09:31
zmoylan-piplayed from a cassette changer for full 80s retro :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTuzDQokdk09:31
ujjainfabric conditioner is the same as fabric softener or as washing detergent?09:40
DJonessoftener09:42
ujjainah thanks09:42
MyrttiI use white vinegar from a Cash and Carry instead09:45
Myrttidoesn't leave a horrid scent on the clothes and helps with limescale a bit09:46
ujjainah, right. :)09:58
ujjainwhat's the english ikea called, you can order online and they have massive books, then you collect in the store10:31
ujjain5 letters I think, 2 silibals\10:31
ujjainsounds like astro10:31
dwatkins_Sweden upon Thames10:31
ujjainhmm, that's not it :P10:31
dwatkins_aka Ikea10:31
ujjainhaha10:32
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DJonesujjain: Argos ?10:34
ujjainah yes10:34
ujjainthanks10:34
DJonesOr Homebase, both owned by the same people, slightly different products though10:34
davmor2ujjain: you know we have ikea here too right ;) they have book books too10:35
ujjainYeah I know, but I am looking for more glasses/cutlery so I can be more lazy before doing laundry10:35
davmor2ujjain: again ikea :P10:36
ujjainah yeah, but it's far10:36
ujjainI'd need a car10:36
davmor2ujjain: hahaha10:36
ujjainor take a busride for 20/25 minutes10:36
Myrttiwoe is you10:36
DJonesI suspect most people order online at Ikea though, so they can just go to a collection point rather than having to get the Sat Nav out to find their way round the store10:36
ujjainah hmm, let me see, IKEA is cheaper yeah10:37
davmor2DJones: I prefer the satnav idea when going to Ikea but that is most cause it means I'm owed the meal I have there :)10:44
DJones:)10:45
foobarryanyone used LTSP lately (linux terminal server project)10:58
davmor2foobarry: no11:04
ujjain0800 numbers in the Netherlands are free, but are paid numbers in the UK, right? Do all 0800 numbers have the same cost?11:26
ujjainfound it: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/cut-cost-0800-mobiles11:27
davmor2ujjain: no 0800 numbers are free from landlines but cost a normal charge from mobiles11:27
ujjainah ok! thanks, didn't know11:27
foobarryexcept on giffgaff i think it is no-cost11:27
ujjainthree contract also fere, but I have three pay as you go11:27
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ujjainI was rejected for a FlexPlus account based on my credit score. Will that even more negatively affect my credit score?11:35
davmor2ujjain: no, but it might make it harder to get credit card and accounts that have them.11:43
ujjainwhy do you even need credit score for a bank account, argh, I don't even want to be able to have a negative balance.11:45
directhexthere's still credit, on a non-credit account11:49
directhexe.g. cheques are credit-based11:49
directhexsince there's no verification of balance when you write a cheque11:49
Myrttijust get rid of cheques11:52
Myrttiproblem solved11:52
ujjaini threw away my cheques11:53
brobostigonthey are outdated anyway.11:53
diploOur school for my kids prefers cheques for payment of stuff, I don't a cheque book but they don't like cash11:57
ujjaincrappy.11:58
Myrttihaven't they heard of bank accounts?11:58
MyrttiI heard that in the big world you write bills with the account information to which you want the money to be paid to11:59
MyrttiI'm under the impression it's quite fast too11:59
Myrttilike, nearly immediate or at most one banking day.12:00
Myrttiheretic, I know!12:01
diploMyrtti, I know, or even just a card machine..12:01
diploOther schools around the area allow it :/12:01
diploA new head recently, so hoping he improves things12:02
Myrttinotice how gracefully I'm ignoring the fact you're paying the school12:02
christelour school also prefers cheque for stuff12:04
diploheh, it's for after school clubs etc and school dinners12:05
Myrttiafter school clubs have to be organised by someone else than the school in Finland12:06
Myrttiand school dinners are free12:06
Myrttiwhoever organises said clubs can ask for a fee12:06
diploSchool dinners are free ( this year, wasn't that way last year ) up to year 2, so I only have to pay for one12:09
diploBut the one who gets it free prefers packed lunch :/12:09
Myrttikids in Finland would get a letter to home if they'd come in with a packed lunch :-/12:14
Myrttitalking of lunches, I just learned about Hartley's jelly cups12:14
Myrttiwell I have noticed them before but hadn't tried one before12:14
Myrttisurprisingly nice12:15
diploSeen them, never tried them12:20
knightwiseGhahhh ! You evil taxman you !12:20
knightwiseTaking away hard earned money from my beloved little startup12:21
diddledanoh dear. I got a colleague rattled by deleting files which he needed to stay12:38
DJonesIs there an easy way to convert .pdf to an excel/openoffice calc file?13:07
brobostigonopen the pdf in openoffice, then save/export it into a different format?13:08
foobarrycopy paste13:10
DJonesThat doesn't work (at least using the Windows version, just opens the file in Draw)13:10
DJonesJust trying an online converter13:12
Myrttiexcuse me while I squee, but wedding shoes just arrived in mail13:13
Myrtti*squee*13:14
Myrttithere, done.13:14
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NET||abuseI'm having an absolute 'mare here, laptop keyabord, coffee spill, touchpad was out for a day, then started working again, everything else seems fine except the return key. external or onscreen keyboard is the only way I can keep working.15:21
NET||abuseanybody have any tips on fixing a single key on a keyboard. mechanically seems fine.15:21
NET||abusedont know what i could have done to have just 1 key no work.15:21
BigRedSwhat sort of keyboard is it? And when it doesn't work, do you mean it just doesn't appear to send any keypresses?18:58
zmoylan-pithe old crumbs in the keyboard problem?19:00
daftykinsnever heard a better candidate for percussive maintenance19:01
SuperEngineerthere's a way to stop crumbs, pizza bits, fag ash et al gettinhg into your keyboard19:12
directhexdon't use a keyboard, type via telepathy19:13
SuperEngineer...stick keyboard to ceiling... after tyring todo anything on it after that...19:13
SuperEngineerall other probs seem simple!19:13
daftykinscould just get the flat surface medical keyboards i saw recently at the hospital19:14
daftykinsthey looked pretty weird though, i doubt feedback is very good19:14
SuperEngineeror a good ol' fashioned flimsy heyboard cover?19:15
zmoylan-pithe don't eat over keyboard option a non goer?19:15
daftykinseven without eating you'll still get lots of dead skin and so on in there19:16
SuperEngineeror try clingfilm... if you get it right you can still use the keyboard  but if you don't...... ;)19:16
SuperEngineer[on the other hand get a can of mankind's best friend - air duster!19:18
SuperEngineerdead skin - use latex gloves! dandruff - use a head cover! runny nose -use a dust mask!19:21
SuperEngineer....& don't forgoet to post the picture of the result on the web :)19:21
SuperEngineerQ/ anyone else finding that Chromium randomly crashes recently? Is it just me?19:26
zmoylan-pia full hazmat suit to keep dust away from keyboard?19:27
SuperEngineerzmoylan-pi: not a good idea - the usb ports can't poewer the air blowers19:28
SuperEngineer*power19:28
ali1234i've seen some random chrome crashes recently. and some random firefox ones too19:48
ali1234and by that i mean an above average amount19:48
ali1234is centos 5.9 still supported?20:07
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