[06:17] hands up everyone who's been awake all night fixing bash's shellshock! [06:18] ok ok, I've been fixing everything else, too [06:18] precipitated by bash, tho [06:21] good morning peeps [06:21] lo [06:23] hey diddledan [06:23] how are you dude ? [06:24] tired [06:25] you just missed my pronouncement of having been awake all night working on fixing bash's shellshock vuln [06:42] back [06:42] just patched my nix machines for the shell bug [06:42] too bad my mac don't have no patch [07:07] hmmm === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [07:53] morning all [07:53] popey: Morning. === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski === zmoylan-3i is now known as zmoylan-pi [08:02] Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy World Dream Day! :-D [08:02] hey popey JamesTait jpds [08:02] popey: cat still sleeping on your neck like a scarf ? [08:12] man the world dreams.....I wonder if it dreams of being a whale.....or a range of intergalatic tortoises with a world on top [08:13] davmor2 is stoned [08:14] foobarry: no JamesTait said it was World Dream day [08:15] i dream about travelling to work and i'm not wearing shoes [08:16] and you think I'm stoned :P [08:16] or i'm forever trying to pack for holiday and i can never finish [08:17] davmor2, Great A'Tuin is the world turtle, not a tortoise. ;) [08:18] knightwise: no thankfully! [08:20] JamesTait: I couldn't remember which it was I was close though [08:20] davmor2, we knew what you meant! [08:21] * JamesTait is making his way through the Discworld series again, at eldest son's bedtime. [08:21] JamesTait: man I hate to think what his dreams are likely to be ;) === msm is now known as Guest29378 [08:23] davmor2, trains, probably. Lots and lots of trains. And Minecraft. [08:23] Morning all [08:26] JamesTait: everything a growing kid needs :) [08:26] JamesTait: you gonna take him to the NRM in york then? [08:26] davmor2, undoubtedly, at some point. [08:27] davmor2, we've done Etches Park depot, Great Central Railway, Midland Railway Centre, various train stations and level crossings. [08:27] JamesTait: I can also recommend a trip to bridgenorth and jump on the Severn Valley Railway [08:30] davmor2, he's asked me to take photos of the train I go to London on, and if I go on a subway in the US he wants photos. [08:33] i had a dream the other night that the 8.11 train was a steam train. but my 8.26 was a regualr commuter overground train. and i just missed the 8.11. it seemed to plant itself as a memory rather than a dream. i've only just recalled that it was a dream === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [08:33] JamesTait: you also get the hill train [08:34] JamesTait: yes get your priorities man ;) [09:08] http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Submit-Great-giffgaff-Ideas/60-day-voicemail-frustration/idi-p/8605876 needs more votes [09:08] any giffgaff users please vote :D [09:09] * dutchie leaving giffgaff [09:09] due to shoddy signal where i live [09:12] waiting for xperia z3 to ship, then will move to three [09:12] not neccessarily to an xperia, but i want the option [09:13] morning boys and girls. [09:15] morning brobostigon [09:15] yeah, i have a three sim in the post [09:15] morning davmor2 [09:16] & hi brobostigon [09:16] * brobostigon has been with three for a few years now, because of the no FUP unlimited data. [09:16] no FAP? [09:16] fup = fair usage policy [09:16] sorry for reddit joke [09:17] i see [09:19] brobostigon: there *is* a FUP! [09:19] brobostigon: 1T per month. [09:20] directhex: ok, last time i looked there wasnt, ok thank you. thats still a huge amount of data. [09:20] brobostigon: i don't push that on fibre, in a month, with all the steam games [09:21] directhex: i can imagine, it would be difficult to get anywhere near to. [09:22] Tunes stuck in my head today are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrlhLaNClgw and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwlogyj7nFE [09:23] * brobostigon had enter sandman in his head yesterday [09:26] i've had "starlight" by the supermen lovers in my head a lot lately [09:27] is dish washer tablets always th same size? === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [09:27] ujjain: approximately [09:28] ujjain: dishwashers with a tablet tray should accept any brand on the market, anyway [09:28] ah ok, I will get the discounted finish powerball then, they should fit then [09:28] yeah right, I never boughth dishwasher tablets before, but should be fine then [09:29] we should make a playlist of the tunes we have in our heads they are obviously the best tunes EVA!!!!! part 1 :) it's always part 1 don't ask me why :D [09:30] spotify collaborative playlist [09:31] I already have few of those earworm playlists from different groups [09:31] played from a cassette changer for full 80s retro :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTuzDQokdk [09:40] fabric conditioner is the same as fabric softener or as washing detergent? [09:42] softener [09:42] ah thanks [09:45] I use white vinegar from a Cash and Carry instead [09:46] doesn't leave a horrid scent on the clothes and helps with limescale a bit [09:58] ah, right. :) [10:31] what's the english ikea called, you can order online and they have massive books, then you collect in the store [10:31] 5 letters I think, 2 silibals\ [10:31] sounds like astro [10:31] Sweden upon Thames [10:31] hmm, that's not it :P [10:31] aka Ikea [10:32] haha === dwatkins_ is now known as dwatkins [10:34] ujjain: Argos ? [10:34] ah yes [10:34] thanks [10:34] Or Homebase, both owned by the same people, slightly different products though [10:35] ujjain: you know we have ikea here too right ;) they have book books too [10:35] Yeah I know, but I am looking for more glasses/cutlery so I can be more lazy before doing laundry [10:36] ujjain: again ikea :P [10:36] ah yeah, but it's far [10:36] I'd need a car [10:36] ujjain: hahaha [10:36] or take a busride for 20/25 minutes [10:36] woe is you [10:36] I suspect most people order online at Ikea though, so they can just go to a collection point rather than having to get the Sat Nav out to find their way round the store [10:37] ah hmm, let me see, IKEA is cheaper yeah [10:44] DJones: I prefer the satnav idea when going to Ikea but that is most cause it means I'm owed the meal I have there :) [10:45] :) [10:58] anyone used LTSP lately (linux terminal server project) [11:04] foobarry: no [11:26] 0800 numbers in the Netherlands are free, but are paid numbers in the UK, right? Do all 0800 numbers have the same cost? [11:27] found it: http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/cut-cost-0800-mobiles [11:27] ujjain: no 0800 numbers are free from landlines but cost a normal charge from mobiles [11:27] ah ok! thanks, didn't know [11:27] except on giffgaff i think it is no-cost [11:27] three contract also fere, but I have three pay as you go === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:35] I was rejected for a FlexPlus account based on my credit score. Will that even more negatively affect my credit score? [11:43] ujjain: no, but it might make it harder to get credit card and accounts that have them. [11:45] why do you even need credit score for a bank account, argh, I don't even want to be able to have a negative balance. [11:49] there's still credit, on a non-credit account [11:49] e.g. cheques are credit-based [11:49] since there's no verification of balance when you write a cheque [11:52] just get rid of cheques [11:52] problem solved [11:53] i threw away my cheques [11:53] they are outdated anyway. [11:57] Our school for my kids prefers cheques for payment of stuff, I don't a cheque book but they don't like cash [11:58] crappy. [11:58] haven't they heard of bank accounts? [11:59] I heard that in the big world you write bills with the account information to which you want the money to be paid to [11:59] I'm under the impression it's quite fast too [12:00] like, nearly immediate or at most one banking day. [12:01] heretic, I know! [12:01] Myrtti, I know, or even just a card machine.. [12:01] Other schools around the area allow it :/ [12:02] A new head recently, so hoping he improves things [12:02] notice how gracefully I'm ignoring the fact you're paying the school [12:04] our school also prefers cheque for stuff [12:05] heh, it's for after school clubs etc and school dinners [12:06] after school clubs have to be organised by someone else than the school in Finland [12:06] and school dinners are free [12:06] whoever organises said clubs can ask for a fee [12:09] School dinners are free ( this year, wasn't that way last year ) up to year 2, so I only have to pay for one [12:09] But the one who gets it free prefers packed lunch :/ [12:14] kids in Finland would get a letter to home if they'd come in with a packed lunch :-/ [12:14] talking of lunches, I just learned about Hartley's jelly cups [12:14] well I have noticed them before but hadn't tried one before [12:15] surprisingly nice [12:20] Seen them, never tried them [12:20] Ghahhh ! You evil taxman you ! [12:21] Taking away hard earned money from my beloved little startup [12:38] oh dear. I got a colleague rattled by deleting files which he needed to stay [13:07] Is there an easy way to convert .pdf to an excel/openoffice calc file? [13:08] open the pdf in openoffice, then save/export it into a different format? [13:10] copy paste [13:10] That doesn't work (at least using the Windows version, just opens the file in Draw) [13:12] Just trying an online converter [13:13] excuse me while I squee, but wedding shoes just arrived in mail [13:14] *squee* [13:14] there, done. === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [15:21] I'm having an absolute 'mare here, laptop keyabord, coffee spill, touchpad was out for a day, then started working again, everything else seems fine except the return key. external or onscreen keyboard is the only way I can keep working. [15:21] anybody have any tips on fixing a single key on a keyboard. mechanically seems fine. [15:21] dont know what i could have done to have just 1 key no work. [18:58] what sort of keyboard is it? And when it doesn't work, do you mean it just doesn't appear to send any keypresses? [19:00] the old crumbs in the keyboard problem? [19:01] never heard a better candidate for percussive maintenance [19:12] there's a way to stop crumbs, pizza bits, fag ash et al gettinhg into your keyboard [19:13] don't use a keyboard, type via telepathy [19:13] ...stick keyboard to ceiling... after tyring todo anything on it after that... [19:13] all other probs seem simple! [19:14] could just get the flat surface medical keyboards i saw recently at the hospital [19:14] they looked pretty weird though, i doubt feedback is very good [19:15] or a good ol' fashioned flimsy heyboard cover? [19:15] the don't eat over keyboard option a non goer? [19:16] even without eating you'll still get lots of dead skin and so on in there [19:16] or try clingfilm... if you get it right you can still use the keyboard but if you don't...... ;) [19:18] [on the other hand get a can of mankind's best friend - air duster! [19:21] dead skin - use latex gloves! dandruff - use a head cover! runny nose -use a dust mask! [19:21] ....& don't forgoet to post the picture of the result on the web :) [19:26] Q/ anyone else finding that Chromium randomly crashes recently? Is it just me? [19:27] a full hazmat suit to keep dust away from keyboard? [19:28] zmoylan-pi: not a good idea - the usb ports can't poewer the air blowers [19:28] *power [19:48] i've seen some random chrome crashes recently. and some random firefox ones too [19:48] and by that i mean an above average amount [20:07] is centos 5.9 still supported? === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away