knome | pleia2, ochosi: going to sleep (3am). release announcement not published because the release is not out yet. do that if you get back before me and after the release is done. cheers! | 00:09 |
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knome | ^ and others feel free to ping elfy about that. | 00:10 |
skellat | pleia2: Are the images posted here considered "real" yet? See: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/utopic/beta-2/ | 02:20 |
Unit193 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2014-September/thread.html will link to it. | 02:24 |
* bluesabre tries to get a handle on possible uploads for trusty/utopic... http://paste.ubuntu.com/8429756/ | 02:35 | |
Noskcaj | bluesabre, explain | 02:35 |
bluesabre | that paste shows different package versions in trusty/utopic/debian | 02:36 |
Noskcaj | ok | 02:36 |
Unit193 | Explain, explain, explain! | 02:36 |
Unit193 | :D | 02:36 |
bluesabre | most of the xfce things will probably roll back from utopic to trusty with MRe, and menulibre/mugshot | 02:37 |
bluesabre | wondering, do we want the updated abiword for utopic? | 02:37 |
Unit193 | Meh. | 02:37 |
bluesabre | gmusicbrowser seems like a nice one | 02:37 |
Noskcaj | Would we be able to get it to official archives though? | 02:38 |
bluesabre | these are all things in our packageset | 02:39 |
Unit193 | gmb for utopic or trusty. | 02:39 |
Unit193 | s/./?/ | 02:39 |
bluesabre | probably just utopic | 02:39 |
* bluesabre writes scripts when he's bored | 02:41 | |
Unit193 | "add App Indicator plugin" Shiny. | 02:43 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: Any good ones? | 02:43 |
bluesabre | probably not | 02:44 |
bluesabre | there is probably a utility that already does most of what I do better | 02:44 |
bluesabre | :D | 02:44 |
bluesabre | I'll probably work on the utopic -> trusty MRe's this weekend, maybe merge a few things like abiword and gmb to utopic too | 02:46 |
bluesabre | want to take bets for beta2 actually being released on 9/25 anywhere in the world? | 02:46 |
bluesabre | :) | 02:47 |
Unit193 | -release indicates it was. | 02:49 |
Noskcaj | bluesabre, Let me know if there's anything ou want me to help with, i'm currently just working on gnome 3.14 stuff | 02:49 |
Unit193 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-September/000190.html | 02:50 |
bluesabre | ah, missed that | 03:01 |
pleia2 | skellat: wasn't when you asked, is now | 03:43 |
skellat | pleia2: Okay, I fixed the URL on the wiki to point to that back then | 03:46 |
skellat | So if the balloon goes up on our side, the balloon goes up on our side | 03:46 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: You have packageset, the only thing with gmb you may want to be aware of: libgnome2-wnck-perl and libgtk2-appindicator-perl are extra things needed for all of the plugins to work, but they aren't really needed. The second is for the appindicator, but with the mpris/soundmenu integration, it's a bit pointless IMO. | 04:38 |
elfy | morning | 07:17 |
elfy | thanks whoever published both | 07:17 |
elfy | one | 07:17 |
ochosi | morning | 09:30 |
ochosi | (late morning) | 09:30 |
ochosi | thanks for publishing the release-related announcements! | 09:31 |
elfy | hi ochosi | 09:50 |
ochosi | hey elfy | 09:50 |
bluesabre | Unit193: cool... I see that it fails gracefully when those packages are missing... what would be your suggestion if I pull it into utopic? | 11:07 |
ochosi | hey bluesabre | 11:08 |
bluesabre | elfy: possible no dailies tonight, 07:06 <infinity> cjwatson: In that case, please don't re-enable dailies, I'll get to testing today/tomorrow. | 11:09 |
bluesabre | hey ochosi | 11:09 |
elfy | bluesabre: ty | 11:10 |
ochosi | reason is the lightdm bug? | 11:10 |
bluesabre | they broke booting on ppc64el | 11:10 |
ochosi | oh | 11:10 |
bluesabre | doesn't affect us, but its all or nothing probably | 11:10 |
ochosi | thanks for the nice -settings fixes, bluesabre | 11:11 |
ochosi | you've really been extremely productive this cycle | 11:11 |
bluesabre | :) | 11:12 |
ochosi | btw, do we already have an overview over what bugs still need fixing? or were you suggesting that more generally, i.e. not only in terms of xubuntu | 11:12 |
elfy | bluesabre: oh lol - I assumed that to be something in -release from last night - just seen it :) | 11:12 |
bluesabre | just kind of generally. there's probably several reports that have already been fixed, but not closed | 11:13 |
bluesabre | like this one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/1318162 | 11:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1318162 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "dialog-ok-apply icon missing from several subdirectories" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 11:13 |
ochosi | hmright | 11:13 |
ochosi | that should be fix released i guess, since i added that a long time ago already | 11:14 |
bluesabre | or any easy fixes for some of our other projects, so yeah, just in general bug cleanup | 11:14 |
ochosi | sounds like a good plan | 11:16 |
ochosi | still haven't been able to properly check out ll1.5 and the greeter brnach | 11:16 |
ochosi | branch | 11:16 |
bluesabre | same here | 11:16 |
bluesabre | going to test the new fix for the greeter this weekend | 11:17 |
bluesabre | and then roll it in, because it works well, just looked a little funny | 11:17 |
ochosi | that means all-gtk3 then | 11:17 |
lderan | :P | 11:17 |
ochosi | i guess it doesn't use releavers or anything yet? | 11:18 |
bluesabre | it uses GtkOverlay | 11:18 |
bluesabre | we have 1.9 in utopic, which is already all-gtk3 | 11:18 |
ochosi | right, so transparency now works without the cairo stuff? | 11:18 |
bluesabre | I believe so | 11:18 |
* bluesabre is no longer the primary developer for -greeter | 11:19 | |
* ochosi neither | 11:19 | |
ochosi | i've been out of touch with the greeter code for a while and it has really grown and changed significantly | 11:21 |
ochosi | guess it'd take me a bit to get back in | 11:21 |
bluesabre | https://code.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter/one-window-layout/+merge/233644 | 11:22 |
bluesabre | subwindow_draw has been removed, so that might be a good indicator | 11:22 |
ochosi | yup, i was just browsing through that :) | 11:23 |
bluesabre | I'll experiment with it, set the window to 50% alpha or something and see what happens | 11:23 |
ochosi | yup, that sounds like a good idea | 11:24 |
ochosi | btw, what about finishing the gsettings patch for ll? | 11:24 |
bluesabre | yeah, need to do that | 11:24 |
bluesabre | should only take around an hour | 11:24 |
ochosi | i mean from what i can tell there are no really critical bugs around in most projects we work/ed on, some are waiting for features though | 11:24 |
bluesabre | I'll try to get that done this weekend | 11:24 |
ochosi | that'd be great | 11:25 |
ochosi | then we can finally chop down lls to something with reasonable code and no more desktop file writing :) | 11:25 |
bluesabre | indeed | 11:25 |
ochosi | could even ship it with light-locker then | 11:25 |
ochosi | if it's a build option, it wouldn't matter so much that it's python | 11:26 |
bluesabre | yeah | 11:26 |
bluesabre | that sounds good | 11:26 |
bluesabre | alrighty, I'm getting hungry, time to go start my day | 11:27 |
bluesabre | I'll be around most of the weekend, bbl | 11:27 |
ochosi | okeydokey! | 11:27 |
ochosi | enjoy breakfast and the rest of the day then | 11:27 |
ochosi | bluesabre: btw, another -settings bug/patch for us: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11188 | 11:27 |
ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 11188 in Xfsettingsd ""Unknown option --display" and xfsettingsd doesn't start on session login." [Normal,New] | 11:27 |
xubuntu51w | Just DL's the 14.10B2. When did the highlights/selection bar becme pink? | 17:01 |
knome | xubuntu51w, in 14.10b2. | 17:01 |
xubuntu51w | :) By design? | 17:02 |
knome | did you read the release announcement? | 17:02 |
xubuntu51w | actually, no (mea culpa) | 17:03 |
knome | doing that usually helps with the "is this for real" -moments | 17:03 |
knome | yes, it's by design to celebrate the "unicorn" release and to demonstrate the customizability. | 17:03 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: I was actually leaning towards "Suggests", but was going to leave it up to you, just making you aware of it. | 17:05 |
brainwash | the skel stuff is only copied once when a new account has been created, right? | 17:10 |
brainwash | some user installs ubuntu and then adds xubuntu-desktop. this way etc/skel/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css won't be copied and he ends up with the pink highlight only being applied tp gtk2 apps | 17:14 |
brainwash | furthermore, the other way around the pink highlight will be visible in unity for gtk3 apps | 17:16 |
brainwash | this appears to be messy | 17:16 |
knome | brainwash, congrats. | 17:17 |
brainwash | what did I win? | 17:18 |
brainwash | at least there is a note on how to revert the change :) | 17:18 |
knome | you just won the sherlock holmes badge of the month. | 17:19 |
brainwash | thanks | 17:22 |
Unit193 | Made sure gtk-theme-config could easily use the reset button. | 17:25 |
brainwash | it's not a problem, just a minor annoyance | 17:26 |
brainwash | especially if you don't know about gtk-theme-config | 17:26 |
knome | brainwash, is there something that isn't a minor annoyance if you don't know a tool that does the task? no. | 17:29 |
knome | seriously, we should learn to relax a bit. | 17:29 |
knome | if we can't make a nice joke about unicorns, what is all this work for then? | 17:29 |
brainwash | why not pink nuance in the wallpaper then? | 17:30 |
knome | i thought we were having fun doing this and allowing ourselves some creativity space. | 17:30 |
brainwash | :D | 17:30 |
knome | there is a pink nuance in the wallpaper | 17:30 |
knome | we just didn't want to make it all pink, because that would have been a bit over the top | 17:30 |
knome | ultimately, we wanted the default installation to still be usable | 17:30 |
elfy | obviously going to be a fine release if all people have to worry about is pink | 17:31 |
knome | that. | 17:31 |
brainwash | I'm not worried about color changes, but the inconsistency which I've pointed out | 17:32 |
knome | there will always be inconsistencies | 17:33 |
knome | you've just accustomed to too good. | 17:34 |
knome | that only shows how much work has gone to make xubuntu actually really consistent | 17:34 |
Unit193 | Nothing wrong with pointing out where it isn't. | 17:34 |
knome | sure. | 17:35 |
knome | we'll go back to the old blues in 15.04 anyway | 17:35 |
brainwash | Unit193: could the package version of "xfce4" be incremented to 4.11? | 19:09 |
brainwash | to reflect the fact that most packages are now from Xfce 4.11 | 19:09 |
knome | does that really matter, and is that really the place we should communicate that? | 19:10 |
brainwash | that's why I'm asking him | 19:11 |
brainwash | changing the version shouldn't break anything | 19:13 |
Unit193 | You technically could, but as it's a deps package with >= 4.10 type of deps, it's native to Debian, and no 4.11 in experimental I wouldn't really. | 19:14 |
brainwash | ok, then it will be changed to 4.12 once the new stable release is ready :) | 19:17 |
Unit193 | (http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/desktop/trunk/xfce4/debian/control?view=markup) | 19:17 |
Unit193 | Tends to only follow stable releases, 4.8 to 4.10, yeah | 19:17 |
brainwash | 4.11 looks like a pseudo stable release | 19:18 |
brainwash | even shipped in a ubuntu lts release | 19:18 |
Unit193 | Heh, considering https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.12/roadmap/critical-bugs ? | 19:20 |
brainwash | bugs everywhere =S | 19:21 |
brainwash | so, changing the deps to >= 4.11 should be possible in utopic, but that won't let users install xfce 4.10 components without losing the meta package | 19:22 |
brainwash | I understand that this change has to be made by the debian maintainer | 19:23 |
Unit193 | forestpiskie: Hey, you don't have any problems with /tmp if you leave the computer on for a day or more, right? | 20:17 |
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slickymaster | Unit193, any luck sorting out the translation credits issue? | 21:17 |
Unit193 | Not looked more into it. | 21:18 |
slickymaster | ok | 21:19 |
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