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elhoirhello guys, coulñd you tell me what exactly are the linux-tools-* packages?01:26
elhoirwhat kind of tools?01:26
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bubbasaures.04:14
dns53i'm trying to upgrade using do-release-upgrade -d and it is having problems calculating the upgrade, is there something i should try to debug it?04:53
lordievaderGood morning.07:56
elfymorning08:47
lordievaderHey elfy, how are you this Saturday morning?08:54
elfyexcellent thanks :)08:57
elfyyou?08:57
lordievaderDoing good here :), it's a nice day, sun in shining :)08:57
elfywish it was here - it's not raining though :)08:57
freddy__clear09:36
vitimitihi10:32
BluesKajHowdy folks10:44
rymate1234hey I got a bug in the ubuntu 14.10 daily image http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/dsOYCo5.png12:36
elfythat's a screenshot of the system monitor12:37
BluesKajrymate1234, best to describe your bug first12:42
rymate1234can you not see the black rectangles around the graphs12:42
BluesKajnot everyone uses your desktop so we can't see anything wrong12:43
rymate1234I get the same visual bug in a vm though http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/vv25zhX.png12:47
rymate1234so it can't just be "my pc"12:47
BluesKajone has to expect the odd bug on a devel OS, altho it doesn't seem too serious you can file a bug if you wish12:54
richardPHi all! I tried to boot into Ubuntu Next (Unity8) from USB, but the screen is not on the right postion: Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9l5uq90yqbms6y/IMG_20140927_150353.jpg?dl=013:10
richardPAny idea?13:10
lordievaderrichardP: Wrong display setting?13:15
richardPbut how can I change it?13:15
richardPI can't login, because I can't click to the skip intro button13:16
lordievaderrichardP: xrandr?13:16
richardPi'll try it, reboot13:16
BluesKajwas going to suggest f613:18
lordievaderf6? No modeset?13:21
BluesKajoptions to boot with no acpi , nomodeset etc13:24
kbroulikis there at least a ppa that provides qt 5.3.2 for kubuntu utopic? I'm tired of having an outdated qt 5.3.0 version with all kinds of weird bugs that have been fixed months ago.13:31
BluesKajkbroulik, so what makes you think a newer version will be bug free?13:34
bipulHello, I am unable to intall Ubuntu14.10 on my Virtualbox.13:34
elfybipul: unable to install at all - or get bug 1371651 ?13:36
ubottubug 1371651 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137165113:36
DaekdroomBluesKaj, nomodeset wouldn't work with Mir.13:40
BluesKajDaekdroom, well maybe the other options will13:40
BluesKajDaekdroom, thought it was Xmir anyway13:41
lordievaderDaekdroom: Why not? I thought nomodeset was a kernel thing?13:42
bipulelfy: Even i have also reported that issue.13:43
DaekdroomBluesKaj, XMir can only be used with Mir, as a means to make X-compiled apps work with Mir.13:43
Daekdroomlordievader, yes, but it's currently necessary for direct rendering, which is a pre-requisite for Mir.13:43
BluesKajaamof lordievader I think it is, it bypasses the kernel module iirc13:43
lordievaderDaekdroom: Ok, thanks.13:44
elfybipul: bug number?13:44
bipulelfy: 137475413:45
BluesKajDaekdroom, then that's unfortunate, makes more difficult to boot with some gpus13:45
BluesKajfortunately i don't use Unity13:46
elfybipul: can't find it13:46
elfybug 137475413:46
ubottubug 1374754 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Ubuntu14.10 on Virtualbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137475413:46
DaekdroomBluesKaj, yes. Mir basically only works with opensource drivers that use KMS, right now. Closed-source ones will get support later (if at all, depending on whether Nvidia and AMD care)13:46
bipulelfy: yes13:49
elfybipul: read it now - different issue13:49
bipulsorry i don't get you?13:50
elfynvm - can't help you I'm afraid13:50
BluesKajDaekdroom, maybe nvidia will help develop drivers for Mir, but support from amd/ati historically hasn't been as good so there may be problems with their gpus13:50
elfytgm4883: you got a minute?13:51
tgm4883elfy: whats up?13:51
elfyPM'd you13:53
Bluefoxicyugh16:30
BluefoxicyChromium needs a print option for media type, instead of hacking through the page with the developer tools and deleting all media=screen attributes and media=print tags16:30
tux_anyone use steam on 14.10 ?17:00
jtaylor<17:06
ICantLinux14.10 updated yesterday (minor kernel update?) and now my display is no more. :(18:11
BluesKajICantLinux, which gpu?18:20
ICantLinuxr9 280x. Was running mesa 10.3 from the x-staging ppa.18:21
ICantLinux(and xorg 1.16)18:21
ObrienDaveintel graphics?18:23
BluesKajamd gaming card, unfortunately, and support is tough to come by these days18:29
ICantLinuxFrom what I can remember, grub and the kernel were updated. Don't remember the other updates. Strangely enough, glxinfo properly detects my GPU.18:33
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ICantLinuxAny way to revert Xorg to 1.15 (so I can attempt installing the proprietary drivers)?19:00
lordievaderICantLinux: Why do you need to revert Xorg for that?19:04
ICantLinuxCatalyst beta doesn't support 1.16, unfortunately.19:04
lordievaderWhere did you read that? Usually they depend on version >=x19:06
lordievaderAh nvm, spotted it.19:07
lordievaderI guess you are stuck with the open source driver on Utopic.19:07
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ICantLinuxYup. Might have to try a kernel update. If the drivers still refuse to cooperate, it's back to 14.04.19:38
Nothing_MuchICantLinux: What happened?19:39
Nothing_MuchDo you have specs?19:39
lordievaderNothing_Much: The AMD driver page specifies it. The beta driver only supports up to 3.13.19:40
Nothing_MuchThen he needs to stick to the radeonsi driver19:41
Nothing_MuchBut specs would still be nice19:41
Nothing_MuchAPU or GPU, specifically19:41
ICantLinuxUtopic updated yesterday. Installed kernel 3.16.0-18 along with some other minor updates. Can no longer boot to any display (monitor loses input after grub screen).19:41
lordievaderNothing_Much: That's what I said ;)19:41
Nothing_Muchlordievader: Yes, but what is it? APU or GPU?19:42
Nothing_MuchI have an APU and radeonSI runs perfectly fine19:42
lordievader27-20:21 < ICantLinux> r9 280x. Was running mesa 10.3 from the x-staging ppa.19:42
Nothing_MuchOh okay19:42
ICantLinuxNothing_Much the latest beta supports >= 3.16. I currently have the radeon driver installed, but neither the default version or oibaf can fix the issue.19:42
Nothing_MuchI think I missed the issue19:43
Nothing_MuchWhat's up?19:43
lordievaderICantLinux: By the by, the package provided by Ubuntu doesn't work?19:43
ICantLinuxNope.19:44
Nothing_MuchWhat package?19:44
lordievaderThe amd proprietary driver package.19:44
Nothing_MuchAh19:44
ICantLinuxhmmm...19:44
Nothing_MuchYeah.. AMD just made an announcement that they want to know what's wrong with their driver19:44
Nothing_MuchSo they can fix it up and stuff19:45
Nothing_Muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHlIZ4F9Jc19:45
ICantLinuxDefault proprietary drivers don't support Utopic (no 3.16 kernel support) :(19:45
Nothing_MuchNot even the updates-* one?19:45
lordievaderThat is somewhat strange at this point...19:45
ICantLinuxNeither do IIRC.19:45
Nothing_MuchWas there an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/?19:46
ICantLinuxThere's no xorg.conf. I've removed all the extraneous backups that the proprietary drivers generate as well.19:47
ICantLinux_Just tried resuming boot from safe mode. Everything works (albeit at a low resolution), but still can't boot normally.19:49
Nothing_MuchICantLinux: It's because you're not using the drive19:56
Nothing_Muchr19:56
Nothing_MuchIt's using vesa I think, which is the basic video driver just to output the basic necessities19:56
ICantLinuxHow can I tell which driver I'm using?19:56
lordievaderICantLinux: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA19:57
ICantLinuxVGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X]19:57
ICantLinuxlordievader: X log contains no trace of radeon, but that could be because of safe booting.20:01
lordievaderICantLinux: Only one line of output? If so it is vesa.20:05
ICantLinuxI'll try restarting and booting normally to get a better log. Might have to ssh though.20:06
ICantLinuxlordievader: Even without quiet splash in kernel boot params, I get nothing. Not a thing. After grub screen, my monitor just loses input.20:14
lordievaderICantLinux: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter.20:14
ICantLinuxWill do.20:15
ICantLinuxlordievader: nomodeset appears to have made some sort of progress. I get an Ubuntu purple bar covering the first third of the screen, a black bar covering the second and miscellaneous noise along the last third.20:19
lordievaderICantLinux: This is still (trying) to use the AMD driver I suppose?20:21
ICantLinuxIndeed. Still on the open source driver. Not sure if vesa is being used, however, as I can't even get to a shell.20:22
lordievaderErr, with AMD I ment the closed-source one...20:22
lordievaderICantLinux: If you add 'text' as a kernel parameter do you get to a tty then?20:23
ICantLinuxI don't think I CAN use fglrx. Will try.20:23
ICantLinuxlordievader: Booting with text freezes after "Stopping userspace bootsplash"20:31
lordievaderICantLinux: Hmm, I guess you are out of luck. (In other words, I don't know how I can help you)20:33
ICantLinuxI guess I'll just fiddle with grub until something (hopefully) works out. Thanks for your help :)20:34
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vitimitiHi20:45
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peepTVapt-get remove bash21:52
jtayloryeah, don't do that ..21:53
peepTVremote feature relly on bash21:55
Daekdroom...?21:59
peepTVand cgi22:09
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