elhoir | hello guys, coulñd you tell me what exactly are the linux-tools-* packages? | 01:26 |
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elhoir | what kind of tools? | 01:26 |
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bubbasaures | . | 04:14 |
dns53 | i'm trying to upgrade using do-release-upgrade -d and it is having problems calculating the upgrade, is there something i should try to debug it? | 04:53 |
lordievader | Good morning. | 07:56 |
elfy | morning | 08:47 |
lordievader | Hey elfy, how are you this Saturday morning? | 08:54 |
elfy | excellent thanks :) | 08:57 |
elfy | you? | 08:57 |
lordievader | Doing good here :), it's a nice day, sun in shining :) | 08:57 |
elfy | wish it was here - it's not raining though :) | 08:57 |
freddy__ | clear | 09:36 |
vitimiti | hi | 10:32 |
BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:44 |
rymate1234 | hey I got a bug in the ubuntu 14.10 daily image http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/dsOYCo5.png | 12:36 |
elfy | that's a screenshot of the system monitor | 12:37 |
BluesKaj | rymate1234, best to describe your bug first | 12:42 |
rymate1234 | can you not see the black rectangles around the graphs | 12:42 |
BluesKaj | not everyone uses your desktop so we can't see anything wrong | 12:43 |
rymate1234 | I get the same visual bug in a vm though http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/vv25zhX.png | 12:47 |
rymate1234 | so it can't just be "my pc" | 12:47 |
BluesKaj | one has to expect the odd bug on a devel OS, altho it doesn't seem too serious you can file a bug if you wish | 12:54 |
richardP | Hi all! I tried to boot into Ubuntu Next (Unity8) from USB, but the screen is not on the right postion: Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f9l5uq90yqbms6y/IMG_20140927_150353.jpg?dl=0 | 13:10 |
richardP | Any idea? | 13:10 |
lordievader | richardP: Wrong display setting? | 13:15 |
richardP | but how can I change it? | 13:15 |
richardP | I can't login, because I can't click to the skip intro button | 13:16 |
lordievader | richardP: xrandr? | 13:16 |
richardP | i'll try it, reboot | 13:16 |
BluesKaj | was going to suggest f6 | 13:18 |
lordievader | f6? No modeset? | 13:21 |
BluesKaj | options to boot with no acpi , nomodeset etc | 13:24 |
kbroulik | is there at least a ppa that provides qt 5.3.2 for kubuntu utopic? I'm tired of having an outdated qt 5.3.0 version with all kinds of weird bugs that have been fixed months ago. | 13:31 |
BluesKaj | kbroulik, so what makes you think a newer version will be bug free? | 13:34 |
bipul | Hello, I am unable to intall Ubuntu14.10 on my Virtualbox. | 13:34 |
elfy | bipul: unable to install at all - or get bug 1371651 ? | 13:36 |
ubottu | bug 1371651 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371651 | 13:36 |
Daekdroom | BluesKaj, nomodeset wouldn't work with Mir. | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | Daekdroom, well maybe the other options will | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | Daekdroom, thought it was Xmir anyway | 13:41 |
lordievader | Daekdroom: Why not? I thought nomodeset was a kernel thing? | 13:42 |
bipul | elfy: Even i have also reported that issue. | 13:43 |
Daekdroom | BluesKaj, XMir can only be used with Mir, as a means to make X-compiled apps work with Mir. | 13:43 |
Daekdroom | lordievader, yes, but it's currently necessary for direct rendering, which is a pre-requisite for Mir. | 13:43 |
BluesKaj | aamof lordievader I think it is, it bypasses the kernel module iirc | 13:43 |
lordievader | Daekdroom: Ok, thanks. | 13:44 |
elfy | bipul: bug number? | 13:44 |
bipul | elfy: 1374754 | 13:45 |
BluesKaj | Daekdroom, then that's unfortunate, makes more difficult to boot with some gpus | 13:45 |
BluesKaj | fortunately i don't use Unity | 13:46 |
elfy | bipul: can't find it | 13:46 |
elfy | bug 1374754 | 13:46 |
ubottu | bug 1374754 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Ubuntu14.10 on Virtualbox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374754 | 13:46 |
Daekdroom | BluesKaj, yes. Mir basically only works with opensource drivers that use KMS, right now. Closed-source ones will get support later (if at all, depending on whether Nvidia and AMD care) | 13:46 |
bipul | elfy: yes | 13:49 |
elfy | bipul: read it now - different issue | 13:49 |
bipul | sorry i don't get you? | 13:50 |
elfy | nvm - can't help you I'm afraid | 13:50 |
BluesKaj | Daekdroom, maybe nvidia will help develop drivers for Mir, but support from amd/ati historically hasn't been as good so there may be problems with their gpus | 13:50 |
elfy | tgm4883: you got a minute? | 13:51 |
tgm4883 | elfy: whats up? | 13:51 |
elfy | PM'd you | 13:53 |
Bluefoxicy | ugh | 16:30 |
Bluefoxicy | Chromium needs a print option for media type, instead of hacking through the page with the developer tools and deleting all media=screen attributes and media=print tags | 16:30 |
tux_ | anyone use steam on 14.10 ? | 17:00 |
jtaylor | < | 17:06 |
ICantLinux | 14.10 updated yesterday (minor kernel update?) and now my display is no more. :( | 18:11 |
BluesKaj | ICantLinux, which gpu? | 18:20 |
ICantLinux | r9 280x. Was running mesa 10.3 from the x-staging ppa. | 18:21 |
ICantLinux | (and xorg 1.16) | 18:21 |
ObrienDave | intel graphics? | 18:23 |
BluesKaj | amd gaming card, unfortunately, and support is tough to come by these days | 18:29 |
ICantLinux | From what I can remember, grub and the kernel were updated. Don't remember the other updates. Strangely enough, glxinfo properly detects my GPU. | 18:33 |
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ICantLinux | Any way to revert Xorg to 1.15 (so I can attempt installing the proprietary drivers)? | 19:00 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: Why do you need to revert Xorg for that? | 19:04 |
ICantLinux | Catalyst beta doesn't support 1.16, unfortunately. | 19:04 |
lordievader | Where did you read that? Usually they depend on version >=x | 19:06 |
lordievader | Ah nvm, spotted it. | 19:07 |
lordievader | I guess you are stuck with the open source driver on Utopic. | 19:07 |
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ICantLinux | Yup. Might have to try a kernel update. If the drivers still refuse to cooperate, it's back to 14.04. | 19:38 |
Nothing_Much | ICantLinux: What happened? | 19:39 |
Nothing_Much | Do you have specs? | 19:39 |
lordievader | Nothing_Much: The AMD driver page specifies it. The beta driver only supports up to 3.13. | 19:40 |
Nothing_Much | Then he needs to stick to the radeonsi driver | 19:41 |
Nothing_Much | But specs would still be nice | 19:41 |
Nothing_Much | APU or GPU, specifically | 19:41 |
ICantLinux | Utopic updated yesterday. Installed kernel 3.16.0-18 along with some other minor updates. Can no longer boot to any display (monitor loses input after grub screen). | 19:41 |
lordievader | Nothing_Much: That's what I said ;) | 19:41 |
Nothing_Much | lordievader: Yes, but what is it? APU or GPU? | 19:42 |
Nothing_Much | I have an APU and radeonSI runs perfectly fine | 19:42 |
lordievader | 27-20:21 < ICantLinux> r9 280x. Was running mesa 10.3 from the x-staging ppa. | 19:42 |
Nothing_Much | Oh okay | 19:42 |
ICantLinux | Nothing_Much the latest beta supports >= 3.16. I currently have the radeon driver installed, but neither the default version or oibaf can fix the issue. | 19:42 |
Nothing_Much | I think I missed the issue | 19:43 |
Nothing_Much | What's up? | 19:43 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: By the by, the package provided by Ubuntu doesn't work? | 19:43 |
ICantLinux | Nope. | 19:44 |
Nothing_Much | What package? | 19:44 |
lordievader | The amd proprietary driver package. | 19:44 |
Nothing_Much | Ah | 19:44 |
ICantLinux | hmmm... | 19:44 |
Nothing_Much | Yeah.. AMD just made an announcement that they want to know what's wrong with their driver | 19:44 |
Nothing_Much | So they can fix it up and stuff | 19:45 |
Nothing_Much | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNHlIZ4F9Jc | 19:45 |
ICantLinux | Default proprietary drivers don't support Utopic (no 3.16 kernel support) :( | 19:45 |
Nothing_Much | Not even the updates-* one? | 19:45 |
lordievader | That is somewhat strange at this point... | 19:45 |
ICantLinux | Neither do IIRC. | 19:45 |
Nothing_Much | Was there an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/? | 19:46 |
ICantLinux | There's no xorg.conf. I've removed all the extraneous backups that the proprietary drivers generate as well. | 19:47 |
ICantLinux_ | Just tried resuming boot from safe mode. Everything works (albeit at a low resolution), but still can't boot normally. | 19:49 |
Nothing_Much | ICantLinux: It's because you're not using the drive | 19:56 |
Nothing_Much | r | 19:56 |
Nothing_Much | It's using vesa I think, which is the basic video driver just to output the basic necessities | 19:56 |
ICantLinux | How can I tell which driver I'm using? | 19:56 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA | 19:57 |
ICantLinux | VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT [Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X] | 19:57 |
ICantLinux | lordievader: X log contains no trace of radeon, but that could be because of safe booting. | 20:01 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: Only one line of output? If so it is vesa. | 20:05 |
ICantLinux | I'll try restarting and booting normally to get a better log. Might have to ssh though. | 20:06 |
ICantLinux | lordievader: Even without quiet splash in kernel boot params, I get nothing. Not a thing. After grub screen, my monitor just loses input. | 20:14 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: Try the nomodeset kernel parameter. | 20:14 |
ICantLinux | Will do. | 20:15 |
ICantLinux | lordievader: nomodeset appears to have made some sort of progress. I get an Ubuntu purple bar covering the first third of the screen, a black bar covering the second and miscellaneous noise along the last third. | 20:19 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: This is still (trying) to use the AMD driver I suppose? | 20:21 |
ICantLinux | Indeed. Still on the open source driver. Not sure if vesa is being used, however, as I can't even get to a shell. | 20:22 |
lordievader | Err, with AMD I ment the closed-source one... | 20:22 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: If you add 'text' as a kernel parameter do you get to a tty then? | 20:23 |
ICantLinux | I don't think I CAN use fglrx. Will try. | 20:23 |
ICantLinux | lordievader: Booting with text freezes after "Stopping userspace bootsplash" | 20:31 |
lordievader | ICantLinux: Hmm, I guess you are out of luck. (In other words, I don't know how I can help you) | 20:33 |
ICantLinux | I guess I'll just fiddle with grub until something (hopefully) works out. Thanks for your help :) | 20:34 |
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vitimiti | Hi | 20:45 |
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peepTV | apt-get remove bash | 21:52 |
jtaylor | yeah, don't do that .. | 21:53 |
peepTV | remote feature relly on bash | 21:55 |
Daekdroom | ...? | 21:59 |
peepTV | and cgi | 22:09 |
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