[06:40] <Kilos> morning all of ya
[06:41] <gremble> good morning Kilos 
[06:51] <superfly> hi Kilos
[06:51] <Kilos> hi superfly  
[07:16] <Squirm> hello
[09:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[09:37] <bushtech> 'lo
[09:38] <StonedAlchemist> Eh Oh
[09:38] <StonedAlchemist> Tellytubbies :)
[10:07] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[16:30] <gwood> hi everyone, does anyone have any experience with tsocks on Ubuntu, I've never been able to get it to work. I have to use the built-in socks support in Firefox
[16:35] <Kilos> hi gwood  
[16:35] <gwood> hey Kilos
[16:35] <Kilos> patience
[16:36] <Kilos> everyone has been quiet today
[16:36] <gwood> guess they have dates on a Saturday night :'(
[16:36] <Kilos> lol
[16:37] <Kilos> i dunno about tsocks i only use those that go on your feet
[17:47] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:56] <superfly> tsocks?
[17:56] <superfly> Maaz: google for tsocks
[17:56] <Maaz> superfly: "tsocks - Transparent SOCKS Proxying Library" http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/ :: "tsocks - Transparent SOCKS Proxying Library - SourceForge" http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/about.php :: "tsocks - Browse Files at SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsocks/files/ :: "tsocks | SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsocks/ :: "tsocks(8) -
[17:56] <Maaz> Linux man page" http://linux.die.net/man/8/tsocks :: "tsocks(1) - Linux man page" http:/…
[17:58] <superfly> between 6 and 8 is "kids eat, bath and bed" time
[17:58] <superfly> don't have time for dates anymore
[17:58] <Kilos> lol
[17:58] <Kilos> he has gone off now
[17:58] <superfly> a date is when all the kids go to bed on time and we can spend 5 minutes together before heading to bed ourselves because we're so tired ;-)
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[18:14] <Kilos> superfly  are we safe from that new bash bug? i see it attacks linux servers 
[18:15] <Kilos> i forget its name now
[18:15] <inetpro> haha
[18:15] <inetpro> good evening
[18:15] <Kilos> hello inetpro  
[18:15] <superfly> as long as you've updated in the last few days you should be fine
[18:15] <superfly> hi inetpro
[18:15] <inetpro> bash bug attacking servers? since when?
[18:15] <Kilos> cool ty superfly  
[18:15] <Kilos> aw i deleted the email let me try find it
[18:17] <inetpro> anybody who uses bash for scripting should be shot and killed 
[18:17]  * superfly keels over dead
[18:17] <Kilos> lol
[18:17] <Kilos> just the bad peeps man
[18:17] <inetpro> superfly: not to worry, even I have done it :-)
[18:17] <Kilos> aha
[18:18] <Kilos> well it was just a matter of time before linux was attacked
[18:18] <inetpro> but it's a bad idea, especially under current circumstances
[18:18] <Kilos> by a linux bad user
[18:19] <Kilos> i thought it was in one of the mybroadband emails today
[18:19]  * inetpro is surprised to see so many files using the bash shebang in /usr
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: just keep your stuff up to date man
[18:21] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/110608-hackers-exploit-shellshock-bug.html
[18:21] <Kilos> yip will do and gufw set to on with block all incoming and allow outgoing
[18:26] <Kilos> i tried to stay awake last night to get kubuntu 64bit but was too weak
[18:28] <Kilos> i know its all relative in your opinion inetpro  but i need to understand as well
[18:28] <Kilos> will kde 64bit be faster than kde 32bit with 4g ran on here
[18:29] <Kilos> if it is i can drop unity for good then someone else can help noobs
[18:31] <Kilos> i ask because my 64bit unity is quite a lot faster than 32bit kde here atm
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: difficult to tell, I don't know the answer
[18:40] <Kilos> haha
[18:40] <Kilos> check this speed
[18:40] <Kilos> 100% [13 Packages 27,4 kB/318 kB 9%] [Waiting for headers]       3 051 kB/s
[18:41] <Kilos> how fast is that hey
[18:41] <inetpro> in fact I'm about to finish making backups this eveing and doing the upgrade to 64bit myself
[18:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:41] <Kilos> ok ill try stay up
[18:42] <inetpro> about time I move up to 14.04
[18:43] <Kilos> ai! im darem there already but just got the 32bit so i can use it on other older pcs too
[18:43] <Kilos> but i think its time to choose between either unity or kde
[18:44] <Kilos> having both and also 32bit and 64bit is too much data
[18:44] <inetpro> ai!
[18:45]  * inetpro is happy with KDE
[18:45] <Kilos> yeah i like as well, but its slower and missing a few things
[18:45] <inetpro> whether it's Fedora, Debian or any other distro doesn't really matter all that much
[18:45] <inetpro> as long as it's KDE
[18:46] <Kilos> ive been on ubuntu since i started so not going to change distros now
[18:50] <Kilos> lol theblazehen  keeps trying to get me to use arch
[18:57] <inetpro> arch is for those who have lots of time and who are not afraid of a steep learning curve 
[18:58] <Kilos> ai!
[18:58] <Kilos> no more
[19:02] <Kilos> i wish there were some hardware peeps here
[19:07] <inetpro> what is that? 
[19:07] <Kilos> peeps like me man
[19:07] <Kilos> but clever on top
[19:08] <Kilos> someone that will find where to get samsung drive platters
[19:08] <inetpro> haha 
[19:09] <Kilos> those peeps dont like selling platters separate
[19:09] <Kilos> but they sell the reader thingie
[19:12] <inetpro> did you read my posting about booting from an iso from hdd? 
[19:13] <Kilos> nope where
[19:14] <inetpro> Check out @inetpro's Tweet: https://twitter.com/inetpro/status/515786485249744896
[19:14] <Kilos> eish you tweet peeps
[19:14] <inetpro> :-) 
[19:15] <inetpro> that is very handy! 
[19:15] <Kilos> why didnt you just give the bitly thing
[19:15] <Kilos> grrrr
[19:16] <inetpro> Uh, am currently on mobile phone 
[19:16] <Kilos> wow that sounds good
[19:16] <inetpro> Was easier to press share 
[19:16] <Kilos> lazy
[19:16] <inetpro> busy making backups 
[19:16] <Kilos> oh sorry old peeps get like that
[19:17] <inetpro> am on Kubuntu 14.04 live 
[19:17] <Kilos> see also kde hasnt got a good backup tool like gnome
[19:18] <Kilos> the backup in unity rocks
[19:18] <Kilos> i forget its name
[19:18] <inetpro> no man, I've just been lazy... haven't backed up for a long time 
[19:18] <Kilos> oh ya deja-dup
[19:19]  * inetpro don't need anything other than rsync 
[19:19] <Kilos> deja-dup is really good but dont work on kde
[19:20] <Kilos> eish eish eish
[19:20] <Kilos> have you ever tried formatting 1.9TB with win7
[19:20] <Kilos> sjoe gonna take 2 days look like
[19:20] <inetpro> no
[19:21] <inetpro> make smaller partitions man 
[19:21] <Kilos> nope win7 is on the first 100g and i want to try get ubuntu onto the rest
[19:22] <Kilos> that same scrap 2TB drive
[19:22] <Kilos> on and off with it for about 2 years now
[19:23] <inetpro> sounds like you love putting all your eggs in a single basket 
[19:23] <Kilos> nope im gonna push for a replacement 1TB on monday
[19:24] <inetpro> you want less trouble, split up your hdd into smaller chunks 
[19:24] <Kilos> ive gotta try get it clean first and get it to accept linux
[19:25] <Kilos> it has refused to take any linux up till now, ive just zeroed it with testdisk and installed win7
[19:28] <Kilos> and you should know i always make /, /boot, /home and /storage partitions
[19:29] <Kilos> i used to have a low level format thing but cant remember what it was so cant find it
[19:29] <Kilos> hehe
[19:29] <inetpro> yes but you don't need massive partitions like 1.5tb 
[19:29] <Kilos> nope atm i need a /home of at least 600g
[19:30] <inetpro> why? 
[19:30] <Kilos> data recovery on a 500g uses lots of space
[19:30] <inetpro> make a data partition for that 
[19:30] <Kilos> you think i bought a 1TB drive because ive got money to burn?
[19:31] <inetpro> yes 
[19:31] <Kilos> eish
[19:31] <Kilos> man then i need to know how to tell testdisk foremost and scalpel where to save the saved files to
[19:32] <Kilos> with a big /home i dont need to work that out as well
[19:33] <Kilos> isnt a data partition and a storage partition the same thing?
[19:33] <inetpro> ai 
[19:37] <inetpro> actually I am backing up more than I need to this evening 
[19:37] <Kilos> good
[19:37] <Kilos> better safe than sorry
[19:38] <inetpro> banking up all my partitions 
[19:46] <inetpro> ok, done 
[19:46] <Kilos> nice and fast hey
[19:46] <inetpro> ready to start installation 
[19:46] <Kilos> rsync rocks
[20:02] <Kilos> ohi ThatGraemeGuy  
[20:02] <Kilos> oh just his server reconnecting
[20:03] <inetpro> hmm
[20:03] <inetpro> not sure it's such a good idea to install while booting iso from same hdd 
[20:04] <inetpro> seems slow here 
[20:04] <Kilos> ai!
[20:05] <inetpro> system wanting to unmount the partition with the iso on it 
[20:05] <Kilos> eish
[20:05] <Kilos> do it the old way and put the iso on a stick man
[20:05] <Kilos> unetbootin
[20:06] <Kilos> works kiff on kde and gnome stuffs
[20:06] <inetpro> yaya, will do if this really doesn't work 
[20:06] <Kilos> lol
[20:07] <inetpro> says detecting file systems... 100% for too long 
[20:08] <inetpro> thinking maybe I should just kill it 
[20:09] <Kilos> ya
[20:09] <inetpro> ai! 
[20:09] <Kilos> anything that doesnt run smoothly has some snags in it
[20:10] <inetpro> need to figure it out though 
[20:10] <inetpro> there has to be a logical reason 
[20:11] <Kilos> ok
[20:12] <inetpro> and there has to be a way around it as well 
[20:13] <inetpro> next time 
[20:13] <Kilos> haha
[20:13] <Kilos> do it the old way then think about what is wrong here and with some luck you will forget about it
[20:14] <inetpro> can't wait to see kde upgraded for now, time is running out 
[20:14] <Kilos> oh there is only night surfer data after midnight hey
[20:18] <inetpro> I know 
[20:18] <Kilos> i didnt so got screwed
[20:19] <inetpro> we will have to become morning peeps to exploit that properly now 
[20:19] <Kilos> yeah but getting an iso over 1g in size takes a while
[20:19] <Kilos> you never can be sure of the speed
[20:26] <inetpro> ok, looking better now 
[20:27] <inetpro> installing the old way from USB 
[20:27] <Kilos> good
[20:36] <Kilos> oh my i forgot about at
[20:40] <Kilos> oh my wb hibana
[20:40] <hibana> ehlo
[20:41] <Kilos> lol
[20:41] <hibana> actually have an old iso here, so gonna take time to bring up to date
[20:41] <Kilos> eish
[20:42] <Kilos> didnt you wget 14.04.1
[20:42] <hibana> first thing is to get the video driver sorted
[20:42] <hibana> no
[20:42] <Kilos> oi
[20:42] <hibana> still need to load the Nvidia thing after all this time
[20:43] <Kilos> 331?
[20:43] <hibana> yep
[20:43] <Kilos> thats not too difficult with aptitude
[20:43] <hibana> on 30% now
[20:44] <Kilos> lol have you ever had the black screen after an install
[20:44] <Kilos> with the need to disable the effects thing
[20:44] <hibana> I get big fat black and white spots by default
[20:45] <hibana> need to boot with the nomodeset option
[20:45] <Kilos> try alt+tab+f12
[20:45] <hibana> uh, why?
[20:45] <Kilos> then disable desktop effects
[20:46] <hibana> alt+tab+f12 sounds weird
[20:46] <Kilos> then after installing nvidia you activate then again
[20:46] <Kilos> superfly  it was alt+tab+f12 hey
[20:46] <hibana> I;m fine with setting nomodeset at boot time
[20:46] <Kilos> or was it ctrl+alt+f12
[20:49] <hibana> actually just had to do that once today when booting from the ISO
[20:51] <Kilos> i need help please
[20:52] <Kilos> at 00.05 wget -c link
[20:52] <Kilos> is that right
[20:52] <hibana> damn... gonna have to reboot
[20:52] <Kilos> lol go for it
[20:52] <hibana> messed up before nvidia was finished
[20:53] <Kilos> oi
[20:56] <hibana> hmm...
[20:56] <Kilos> wb hibana  
[20:57]  * hibana kinda surprised
[20:57] <Kilos> why?
[20:57] <hibana> looks like nvidia is actually fully installed
[20:57] <Kilos> lol
[20:57] <hibana> got me proper resolution and all
[20:57] <Kilos> nice
[20:58] <hibana> now going to run the update
[20:59] <hibana> ahh
[20:59] <hibana> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[20:59] <hibana>  xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed
[21:00] <Kilos> update/upgrade fixes that
[21:00] <hibana> fixed
[21:00] <hibana> now
[21:00] <hibana> Need to get 402 MB of archives.
[21:00] <Kilos> eina
[21:03] <superfly> Kilos: ctrl+shift+F12 maybe?
[21:04] <Kilos> ive only had to do it once so not sure anymore
[21:05] <Kilos> but that sounds right ya
[21:07] <hibana> Kilos: that's why I just purchased another 2+1
[21:07] <Kilos> lol
[21:08] <hibana> actually should wait for just another few minutes but won't get through the month anyway
[21:08] <Kilos> ai!
[21:08] <Kilos> only 50 mins
[21:09] <Kilos> lekker with you here im still awake so will get the 64bit 14.04.1 iso just now
[21:09] <hibana> better to be prepared
[21:09]  * hibana going to be out for a sec
[21:09] <Kilos> ok
[21:12] <Kilos> peer got him
[21:14] <Kilos> wb
[21:15] <hibana> ty
[21:20] <hibana> Kilos: btw, my issue has nothing to do with desktop effects
[21:20] <Kilos> oh
[21:20] <hibana> desktop effects are pefect as long as the nvidia driver is loaded
[21:27] <hibana> ai!
[21:27] <hibana> already starting to eat into the new bundle now
[21:28] <Kilos> eeek
[21:28] <Kilos> you should have waited man
[21:29] <hibana> no it's fine
[21:31] <hibana> hope to be finished by midnight
[21:32] <hibana> will probably go little over but can't stay up too long
[21:32] <hibana> so far things looking good here
[21:32] <Kilos> good
[21:33] <Kilos> then another reboot
[21:34] <hibana> most important for now is to get firefox and quassel up to date
[21:34] <Kilos> lol you and firefox
[21:34] <hibana> firefox is a winner
[21:34] <Kilos> quassel i can understand
[21:35]  * hibana supports mozilla all the way
[21:35] <hibana> they know what is meant with freedom
[21:36] <Kilos> for me opera-browser works fine
[21:36] <Kilos> faster and less data used on updating
[21:36] <hibana> you can has it
[21:37] <Kilos> ty
[21:37] <Kilos> i dont do fancy things
[21:37] <Kilos> hi gwoodford  
[21:37] <hibana> hi gwoodford
[21:38] <Kilos> Maaz  google tsocks
[21:38] <Maaz> Kilos: "tsocks - Transparent SOCKS Proxying Library" http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/ :: "tsocks - Transparent SOCKS Proxying Library - SourceForge" http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/about.php :: "tsocks - Browse Files at SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsocks/files/ :: "tsocks | SourceForge.net" http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsocks/ :: "tsocks(8) -
[21:38] <Maaz> Linux man page" http://linux.die.net/man/8/tsocks :: "tsocks(1) - Linux man page" http://li…
[21:39] <hibana> Kilos: forget about tsocks, you don't need it
[21:39] <Kilos> not me man
[21:39] <Kilos> gwood
[21:39] <gwoodford> hi, yes, i was asking about tsocks
[21:39] <gwoodford> lost connection for a while
[21:40] <hibana> gwoodford: why do you need tsocks?
[21:40] <Kilos> yeah we noticed
[21:40] <Kilos> dont hose links help you?
[21:45] <Kilos> 15 mins more then wget
[21:46] <hibana> ai!
[21:46] <gwoodford> hibana, i have a laptop without a ethernet connection, so using a raspberry pi, I don't have a wifi dongle that supports AP mode, so need to use my cellphone as a wifi hotspot that my laptop and raspberry pi connect to
[21:46] <hibana> Kilos: man crontab
[21:46] <gwoodford> I know it is a very exotic setup, but it works, i'm buying a wifi dongle that supports AP mode
[21:47] <hibana> hmm... sounds interesting but still don't see why you need tsocks
[21:47] <Kilos> eish
[21:47] <Kilos> thats as bad as man at
[21:48] <gwoodford> it is just a pain, because only applications that support socks proxies work, i tried even using ubuntu's global network proxy settings and they don't have an effect either
[21:49] <gwoodford> hibana, i cant use apt-get or certain applications that don't support socks proxies within the app, i'm sure there are other ways, but surely the tsocks stuff would work?
[21:49] <hibana> surely you don't need a proxy at all?
[21:50] <hibana> using your android phone?
[21:50] <gwoodford> hibana, i'm using an Android phone, but the internet connection is not from my phone
[21:50] <hibana> yikes
[21:51] <hibana> where do you get the internets from?
[21:51] <Kilos> where is it from 
[21:51] <Kilos> hehe
[21:51] <Kilos> free wifi
[21:51] <gwoodford> Internet -> raspberry pi -> android phone hotspot -> laptop (the SSH tunnel is between my laptop and raspberry pi)
[21:52] <hibana> Kilos: my update downloads are done.... busy installing
[21:52] <Kilos> cool
[21:52] <gwoodford> raspberry pi has an ethernet connection to get internet, and wifi dongle to connect to my android phone
[21:52] <Kilos> ive got all the unity packages saved so can rsync them
[21:53] <hibana> gwoodford: yes but still, where do you get the internet from? what connection?
[21:54] <gwoodford> it is an ADSL connection through a router modem
[21:54] <hibana> hmm... 
[21:55] <gwoodford> hibana, i'm using the connection now to chat on here, so i know the socks connection works
[21:55] <hibana> so the pi acts as ahotspot for the phone?
[21:55] <Kilos> havent laptops got eth connecting sockets
[21:56] <gwoodford> I just can't route all my traffic through it
[21:57] <hibana> a very foreign setup indeed
[21:57] <gwoodford> hibana, well the pi wifi dongle i have does not support hotspot mode, so i need my phone to be the wifi hotspot, so my pi connect to it
[21:58] <gwoodford> hibana, it is one of those ultrathin laptops, so no eth port, laptop is too thin
[21:58] <Kilos> eish
[21:59]  * hibana fails to see how the android connects to the pi
[22:00] <hibana> fp
[22:00] <gwoodford> hibana, android does not connect to pi, the pi connect to android |    Internet - pi -> phone (hotspot) <- laptop
[22:00] <hibana> ai!
[22:01] <gwoodford> quite a hack, but when a guy needs the internet, he finds a way
[22:01] <superfly> I'm failing to see why you need a proxy?
[22:02] <gwoodford> superfly, I don't know how else to do it, the internet access reaches the pi, but the phone does not have an internet connection
[22:03] <superfly> gwoodford: you need to set up your routing correctly, mosty
[22:03] <superfly> *mostly
[22:03] <gwoodford> superfly, on my pi?
[22:03] <superfly> and on your laptop
[22:04] <hibana> yeah that sounds right
[22:04] <superfly> and possibly your phone, though I'm not too sure how to work that
[22:04] <superfly> gwoodford: the main question I have is this: why can't you connect your laptop to the router too?
[22:05] <gwoodford> I imagine I would first need to get my phone to access the internet somehow through the connection first?
[22:05] <superfly> oh, no eth port
[22:05]  * superfly should read, not skim
[22:05] <hibana> :-)
[22:05] <Kilos> hehe
[22:05] <superfly> gwoodford: can your phone browser the internet?
[22:05] <superfly> s/r//
[22:06] <gwoodford> superfly, it is my landlords router, I don't have direct access, he only provides a lan connection and the main house is too far away to pickup his wifi
[22:06] <gwoodford> superfly, nope, don't has not internet connection
[22:07] <superfly> that would be your problem then
[22:07] <gwoodford> superfly, well the socks connection works, it is just the tsocks application that i can't get working
[22:08] <superfly> gwoodford: without plugging my own phone into a similar configuration... does your phone show up as an ethernet device?
[22:08] <superfly> why are you using tsocks?
[22:08] <superfly> gwoodford: why not ssh from the laptop to the pi and use that as a socks tunnel?
[22:08] <gwoodford> superfly, my phone shows up as a wifi hotspot on my laptop
[22:09] <superfly> and the proxy is on the pi then, I presume?
[22:09] <superfly> gwoodford: that really has nothing to do with the issue
[22:09] <superfly> gwoodford: and I was talking about the pi, not your laptop
[22:10] <gwoodford> superfly, that is what i'm doing currently, i'm sshing from my laptop to the pi, socks tunnel works, but only through applications that have built in support for socks proxy, like Eclipse and Firefox
[22:11] <gwoodford> tsocks is for forcing applications to go through the socks tunnel
[22:12] <gwoodford> for example: tsocks ping 8.8.8.8 
[22:12] <gwoodford> should be working
[22:15] <superfly> gwoodford: if you run "ip route" on your laptop, what do you see?
[22:17] <gwoodford> default via 10.42.0.1 dev wlan0  proto static  10.42.0.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.42.0.10  metric 9  192.168.122.0/24 dev virbr0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.122.1 
[22:18] <superfly> OK
[22:18] <superfly> and your cellphone's IP address is 10.42.0.1 ?
[22:19] <superfly> gwoodford: what's your PI's IP address?
[22:20] <gwoodford> superfly, i'm not sure what my phones ip address is, but the pi iw 10.42.0.12
[22:20] <superfly> ok
[22:20] <gwoodford> is*
[22:22] <gwoodford> i edited my /etc/tsocks.conf to only have the following settings
[22:22] <gwoodford> server = 127.0.0.1
[22:22] <gwoodford> server_type = 5
[22:22] <inetpro> yay!
[22:22] <gwoodford> server_port = 1080
[22:23] <superfly> gwoodford: try this...
[22:23] <superfly> sudo ip route del default
[22:23] <superfly> sudo ip route add default via 10.42.0.12 dev wlan0
[22:23]  * inetpro is back on Kubuntu 14.04 
[22:23] <superfly> inetpro: w00t!
[22:23] <Kilos> yay
[22:23] <Kilos> my iso download is at 86%
[22:26] <gwoodford> superfly, that does not seem to make any difference
[22:26] <superfly> gwoodford: I'm not sure my commands are correct
[22:26] <superfly> I don't use those commands on a regular basis
[22:26] <superfly> what did it say?
[22:27] <gwoodford> superfly, it did not give any errors and seemed to make the change fine
[22:27] <superfly> gwoodford: ip route
[22:27] <gwoodford> but still not connection through tsocks or normally
[22:27] <superfly> gwoodford: also, ip route on your pi
[22:28] <gwoodford> default via 10.42.0.12 dev wlan0 | 10.42.0.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.42.0.10  metric 9
[22:30] <gwoodford> superfly, i'm going to try use the system proxy build into ubuntu to connect through the proxy, hopefully that is fixed, but i might temporarily lose my connection
[22:30] <Kilos> inetpro  14.04.1 iso is here
[22:30] <gwoodford> superfly, sorry wrong ip route, will do my pi now
[22:31] <gwoodford> 10.0.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.0.0.3 |  10.42.0.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 10.42.0.12 
[22:32] <superfly> no default?
[22:32] <Kilos> thats me done for tonight. sleep tight guys
[22:32] <inetpro> night Kilos
[22:32] <gwoodford> superfly, default via 10.0.0.2 dev eth0 
[22:32]  * inetpro also hitting the sack
[22:33] <gwoodford> superfly, sorry missed the default line
[22:33] <inetpro> superfly: thanks for taking over to help gwoodford
[22:33] <gwoodford> nite inetpro
[22:35] <gwoodford> maybe i should try get tsocks working on my debian laptop and see if it works there?
[22:47] <superfly> I also need to hit the hay
[22:47] <superfly> night all
[23:40] <gwood> sigh, can't sleep