[00:00] <skinux> Anyone had a problem with rsync deleting stuff it's supposed to be copying/moving?
[00:01] <OerHeks> skinux, what options did you use? > --delete deletes files that don't exist on the system being backed up.(Optional)
[00:02] <skinux> I used GTK front-end, used defaults except for preserve timestamps and permissions.
[00:02] <metempsychosis> hi again! what is the command to change a keyboard layout to US standard in the terminal?
[00:03] <skinux> "Delete on destination" and "do not leave filesystem" were not checked.
[00:04] <asakapab0i> -,-
[00:05] <maxvi> clock dissapear from my panel in ubuntu 14.04 may by I something deleted ((
[00:05] <maxvi> so package
[00:05] <maxvi> some package ... earlier I removed evolution-data-server
[00:05] <skinux> I found it.
[00:06] <maxvi> so how can I return clock to unity panel ?
[00:06] <skinux> Somehow it saved a directory to '/' instead of where it was supposed to be saving it.
[00:06] <skinux> I won't use that front-end again.
[00:06] <ttowndog> i edited file xorg worg.My container cant boot desktop.
[00:06] <OerHeks> skinux, if that is default, maybe worth making a bugreport
[00:07] <skinux> It saved to '/' when it was supposed to be saving to '/var/www/'
[00:07] <OerHeks> maxvi, system settings > time > show on panel
[00:07] <ttowndog> does anyone know how to configure xorg to detect my keyboard.
[00:07] <genii> metempsychosis: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[00:07] <OerHeks> or 'in menu bar'
[00:09] <metempsychosis> "keyboard is not installed" (lolwut)
[00:10] <metempsychosis> oh forgot they hyphen nevermind. >.<
[00:10] <metempsychosis> the*
[00:11] <krabador> !seen aaron
[00:11] <krabador> seen aaron
[00:11] <genii> metempsychosis: Yes, that would be maybe a confusing error message since it refers to the nonexistent package named keyboard but could be interpreted by a user that the computer does not see their keyboard
[00:11] <OerHeks> krabador, this is no funbot, ubuntu support only
[00:12] <metempsychosis> this isnt the first time I've made that silly error. just need to get used to checking for it. thanks again!
[00:12] <ttowndog> who here has linux containers installed?
[00:13] <krabador> OerHeks, yes excuse me , i only tried to search an user that help me some time ago
[00:18] <loa> i expirience problems with last chrome browser.
[00:18] <loa> looks like there is somethings consuming my cpu very hard.
[00:18] <ttowndog> who here has linux containers installed?
[00:19] <jhutchins> ttowndog: Ask your question of the channel in general.
[00:20] <ttowndog> jhutchins:where is lxc channel please?
[00:21] <metempsychosis> okay so I've installed the prop drivers for my nvidia card but now the resolution is so messed up that I can't even open the configuration settings in a window and the terminal just informs me that it can't open the display
[00:21] <metempsychosis> by messed up I mean it's cut off in a peculiar way so all windows and tabs open outside of the parameters of the screen
[00:23] <Jeeves_Moss> I'm lost once again on premissions.  How do I add users to the www-data group?  Then have r/w premissions via FTP
[00:23] <jhutchins> metempsychosis: What metod did you use to install the drivers?
[00:23] <metempsychosis> driver manager - i nstalled the recommended driver
[00:24] <ttowndog> can someone spare 5 min with me to open browser in lxc conatainers.Im pretty sure it cant detect some stuff like my keyboard.
[00:25] <Wulframn> ttowndog: if someone here knows what to do they'll step up
[00:26] <ttowndog> yup ill hang out
[00:28] <dypsilon_> Hi everyone, I'm aiming to create a very minimal virtual box installation with latest packages with least amount of downloading. So I need an image with a system that allows me to install packages and doesn't have anything else. It should be bootable though. Could you point me in the right direction?
[00:28] <Wulframn> dypsilon_: ubuntu minimal
[00:28] <skinux> I have to have a directory named "?`???"...how do I do anything with it? Whatever I try system says it doesn't exist.
[00:29] <dypsilon_> Wulframn, right, that would be idea, is there a way to make it non-interactive?
[00:29] <dypsilon_> *ideal
[00:29] <asakapab0i> skinux: Use the PID of the directory.
[00:29] <dypsilon_> Wulframn, I want to automate the image creation process with vagrant
[00:30] <skinux> I don't know how to do that.
[00:30] <Wulframn> I am not sure.
[00:30] <dypsilon_> Wulframn, thank you anyway
[00:31] <milad1512> what's postgres ?
[00:31] <samthewildone> what's the command to restart bluetooth services ?
[00:33] <genii> milad1512: postgres is a database system.
[00:34] <milad1512> i have account named postgres and it needs password and i don't know how did i installed it
[00:34] <milad1512> is it comes with another program ?
[00:35] <genii> milad1512: That's normal. The password it wants is the password which applications that use the database will use.
[00:35] <genii> milad1512: Often it installs as a dependency for some other application, yes
[00:35] <milad1512> like what application ?
[00:36] <asakapab0i> skinux: type ls -i
[00:36] <milad1512> What's the password anyway ?
[00:36] <asakapab0i> Copy the inode number.
[00:36] <john38> Can  anyone tell me of a good cd dvd burning software for windows?? i know this is not the channel
[00:36] <asakapab0i>  find . -inum 97315 -exec mv {} new-directory-name \;
[00:36] <squinty> john38:  imgburn
[00:37] <bazhang> ##windows can help that john38
[00:37] <reisio> john38: imgburn
[00:38] <john38> squinty, is that free or do i have to buy it
[00:38] <genii> milad1512: Usually something like a web-based application which uses it as the backend
[00:38] <reisio> john38: free
[00:38] <squinty> john38:  off topic   look it up please
[00:38] <john38> does it burn dvd s as well
[00:38] <reisio> yes
[00:39] <ahklerner> i have a vm i set up a swap partition, how can i turn it off
[00:39] <genii> milad1512: What were you installing when it prompted you for the postgres user password?
[00:39] <ahklerner> so the system will not use it
[00:39] <reisio> ahklerner: swapoff
[00:39] <ahklerner> ok
[00:40] <milad1512> genii: i just saw it and i didn't used any password
[00:40] <DarkOverlord> having an issue with dual monitor setup on my device, initially I had one monitor that was running at 1280X1024 res, and then I hooked up another monitor via DVI and now that monitor is running at 1280x1024, but the original one can only 1152x864
[00:41] <ahklerner> thanksd
[00:41] <milad1512> genii: i mean i didn't entered any
[00:41] <maxamed> hi guys am new to this so is there chanl for biginers
[00:41] <DarkOverlord> btw I am running GDM
[00:41] <milad1512> genii: now it want want's a password that i don't know
[00:42] <reisio> maxamed: here
[00:42] <thakyZ> daftykins: I got the 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to work so what do I do after that?
[00:42] <maxamed> ok thanks
[00:42] <daftykins> thakyZ: just follow the rest of that guide
[00:43] <genii> milad1512: If you didn't put any password in the first time that came up, then the password now is the same ...eg: nothing like how you set it.
[00:43] <thakyZ> daftykins: and then when I resart shoudl it work?
[00:43] <kandinski> I'm installing 4.2-2ubuntu2.3 on my machines, but even after that, the shellshock test comes positive. I'm doing a su - $user to open a new login shell, but still positive. Any ideas of what can it be?
[00:44] <milad1512> genii: it doesn't accept nothing
[00:44] <kandinski> sorry, I meant to say bash 4.2-2ubuntu2.3 package on 12.04
[00:44] <ttowndog> some program cant detect something inside lxc container box.I think it cant see the keyboard which startX wont execute.I want to execute chrome in LXC container.wtf?
[00:47] <genii> milad1512: OK. Almost certainly it is asking for a password to a database and not to the user, but hard to tell from your description. Can you make a screenshot of the dialog where it is asking and put it up somewhere we can see it?
[00:47] <squinty> kandinski:  see if apt-cache policy bash bash: Installed: 4.3-7ubuntu1.3   if yes, then afaik, you are up to date.  ran a test yesterday when I installed the newest bash and it to "failed" the test... will have to wait and see what transpires.  might also want to check #ubuntu-security for updates
[00:47] <daftykins> thakyZ: i don't think there was a restart in step 3
[00:47] <thakyZ> daftykins: well I will do it anyways
[00:48] <trism> ttowndog: did you read through this post? https://www.stgraber.org/2014/02/09/lxc-1-0-gui-in-containers/
[00:48] <thakyZ> daftykins: nope didn't work there is only eth0 and lo in the ifconfig command
[00:49] <thakyZ> iwconfig
[00:49] <squinty> kandinski:  hmmm...didn't notice you were on 12.04    apt-cache may return different results then
[00:49] <ttowndog> cool let me see this
[00:49] <thakyZ> opps wrong keyboard :P
[00:51] <kandinski> squinty, thanks, but this test is failing: env echo='() { /bin/echo owned;}' bash -c "echo this is a test"
[00:52] <trap_exit> is ubuntu 14.10-beta safe or vulnerable vs the bash fiasco?
[00:52] <kandinski> it doesn't fail in my wheezy box
[00:53] <teward> trap_exit: #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <trap_exit> what does that mean?
[00:53] <squinty> trap_exit:  need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <trap_exit> 'doesn't fail'
[00:53] <teward> trap_exit: 14.10 questions are offtopic on #ubuntu, you need to /join #ubuntu+1 and ask
[00:53] <trap_exit> teward: as in I should join a different channel?
[00:53] <teward> until 14.10 is released anyways
[00:53] <teward> trap_exit: yes, /join #ubuntu+1
[00:53] <trap_exit> okay
[00:53] <Basketball> teward,
[00:53] <trap_exit> teward: thanks for clarifying, I was not aware (until now) of this distinction
[00:54] <trap_exit> is ubuntu 14.04 safe or vulnerable vs bash fiasco? I want to install an ubuntu, but I wnat it to be safe vs bash fiasco
[00:54] <teward> trap_exit: 14.04 was already patched.  Every current release was patched.
[00:54] <trap_exit> okay
[00:54] <trap_exit> so if I'm downloading an iso
[00:54] <trap_exit> whwat do I do ?
[00:54] <trap_exit> i.e. how do I get the patch if I am installing from an iso?
[00:55] <teward> trap_exit: after you install, run an update via update manager, or `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade`
[00:55] <trap_exit> the iso has date jul 2014
[00:55] <teward> you'll get the upgrade
[00:55] <trap_exit> which I assume does not have the patch
[00:55] <trap_exit> okay
[00:55] <trap_exit> so I install via iso, then do a "sudo apt-get update" and I'm fine ?
[00:55] <teward> trap_exit: also, don't use the enter key as punctuation.
[00:55] <teward> trap_exit: no, `sudo apt-get update` then `sudo apt-get upgrade`
[00:55] <ttowndog> trism:good guide but i think im towards the end of that tutorial.It took me awhile to set this up.Im at the end to where i cant startX to boot the desktop.
[00:55] <teward> trap_exit: assuming you use the terminal for those commands, that is.
[00:55] <trap_exit> teward: okay, so (1) install from iso, (2) "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[00:56] <trap_exit> and I'm good? (I will be installing ubuntu-server)
[00:56] <squinty> !shellshock | trap_exit
[00:56] <teward> trap_exit: you should be all set, but you should read what ubottu just said, and also install kernel updates as well.
[00:56] <trism> ttowndog: I can't add anything to it, I haven't tried it, I just know many of his other lxc guides are very good, and that one looks like it is doing exactly what you want
[00:57] <teward> trap_exit: but once you've done the apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, then bash will at least be patched, as would openssl against heartbleed.
[00:57] <trap_exit> umm, how do I get kernel updates? doers "sudo apt-get updage; suto apt-get upgrade" get me kernel udpates too?
[00:57] <teward> trap_exit: it'll say it holds back 3 or 4 packages, just do sudo apt-get install [those packages]
[00:57] <squinty> trap_exit:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:58] <teward> trap_exit: or do the command squinty just said
[00:58] <teward> i do everything manually for kernel updates and don't use dist-upgrade :)
[00:59] <netlar> How do I check if I have a bluetooth capable computer?
[01:00] <trap_exit> cool thanks
[01:00] <trap_exit> I think I know how to fix this now
[01:00] <trap_exit> also, why is #ubuntu so quiet?
[01:00] <trap_exit> ubuntu used to be one of the most active channels I knew of
[01:00] <spearhead> it usually gets quiet about this time every evening...
[01:01] <ttowndog> trism:I appreciate that for sure.yeah im trying though lol.damn
[01:01] <teward> trap_exit: time of day, evening US time it gets pretty quiet
[01:01] <genii> netlar: The results of either: lsusb    or:lspci  will show the name of some Bluetooth adapter in the output someplace. Also the result of: lsmod | grep bluetooth   will show if the bluetooth module is loaded
[01:02] <squinty> netlar:  look at your unit's documentation.   you can also try   dmesg | grep -i blu     or   sudo service bluetooth status     or  rfkill list   (shows if bluetooth is active or not)  are some of the methods
[01:03] <netlar> This is what I get http://pastebin.com/Gc21vJfE
[01:05] <netlar> I get this also http://pastebin.com/U5RQdy5Y
[01:07] <netlar> It appears that I do have bluetooth available right?
[01:08] <OerHeks> netlar, yes, goto systemsettings > bluetooth and enable it :-)
[01:09] <netlar> OerHeks: Ok, it is searching for device but not finding it now
[01:11] <netlar> Must be the shoes
[01:12] <netlar> Oh I mean the bluetooth headset :)
[01:13] <netlar> I did install blueman, does that cause a conflict?
[01:14] <OerHeks> howto connect depends on the device, maybe you need to set it to be discovered and add a pinn
[01:16] <LS__> What should I do at this point I installed Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 via the program NETBootin I believe it is called or known as and then was planning on a system dual boot with Windows 8.1 which I had installed and that ended up in me pretty much at the point where it takes me to this sub menu boot screen saying I can login as a live session user or test ubuntu before installing install it or use the install it as a manufacturer method only for manufactures so h
[01:16] <LS__> ow can i get it to just boot from the usb to ubuntu as I already obviosly need to usb in my pc or it will give me black screen saying I need to either enter a device or try again basically
[01:17] <reisio> good ole punctuation
[01:18] <daftykins> reisio: you can have that one
[01:19] <reisio> thanks man
[01:19] <Bashing-om> reisio: +1 ^^. not worth my time to try and understand it either.
[01:21] <AiriA> TL:DR How can he boot and run Ubuntu from a flash drive lol
[01:21] <reisio> LS__: what's the problem
[01:21] <daftykins> i believe the answer is to press enter
[01:22] <AiriA> It sounds like he wants a persistent usb install
[01:23] <AiriA> to run and use Ubuntu from the USB stick
[01:24] <LS__> It essentially wont install right because I think I also overwrote windows 8.1 on its C:\ with ubuntu as a partition or something because I cant figure out why it wont dual boot so laod Windows when I do not have my usb in. It wont do nothing without the USB but load a black screen allowing me to choose
[01:25] <LS__> from a few options being only these install ubuntu or test before installing or manufact. install
[01:25] <daftykins> ah so you broke it
[01:25] <LS__> Probably ^
[01:25] <LS__> LOL
[01:25] <AiriA> sounds like its missing the boot loader
[01:26] <LS__> Hmmm. How bad does that sound? I mean I need a PC and am willing to fully switch to Ubuntu or download a some sort of like recovery on Windows 8.1 but they obiously didn't give me a recover CD and I obviously am stuck at this point to what to do so I live session login right now but it seems very ummm not full featured
[01:27] <optrusty> LS__ When I hear that name it feels like a curse
[01:27] <AiriA> are you still able to boot into Windows at all?
[01:27] <trap_exit> dist-upgrade just got bash
[01:27]  * trap_exit puts on armor of +1 vs bash fiasco
[01:27] <optrusty> LS__ Is it HP?
[01:27] <LS__> AiriA I guess I have no idea because I ahven't the clue how lol when I take the USB out it says something along the lines of sorry enter a USB drive.
[01:28] <LS__> Its a Toshiba Satellite and I already went into my bios and was abel to switch it to load usb first instead of dvd drive
[01:28] <optrusty> LS__ P855
[01:28] <optrusty> ?
[01:28] <optrusty> LS__ So whats the prob
[01:29] <LS__> optrusty nope its a Toshiba Satellite but see here is the problem I boot with the USB and it goes to the sub boot screen of Ubuntu not like a login screen right?
[01:29] <LS__> Then it gives me the options install
[01:29] <LS__> or test
[01:29] <LS__> I have to click test as installing it onto even another 16gb flash drive doesn't do crap.
[01:29] <AiriA> I mean..if you overwrote Windows or corrupted anything..youd have to start fresh. You may just need to do a clean install of Ubuntu of thats what you want
[01:30] <optrusty> LS__ I dont get the problem
[01:31] <optrusty> LS__ You are installing Ubuntu on a Flash Drive??
[01:31] <LS__> OptRusty it will show me a sub boot screen that says to install ubuntu or to test it before installing. It wont install because when I click install it just goes through all steps and finally when done I restart to the same damn screen lol
[01:31] <LS__> Its already installed on a 8gb drive
[01:31] <LS__> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is
[01:31] <DarkOverlord> ok, so I managed to fix it with xrandr, but now part of my screen I can't move my mouse into it
[01:32] <DarkOverlord> its on the right side of the right monitor, I can move windows in the section, but the mouse is just blocked by an invisible wall it seems
[01:32] <optrusty> LS__ -_- is a P855 computer like Toshiba Sattilite or what Model
[01:32] <daftykins> < LS__> optrusty nope its a Toshiba Satellite
[01:33] <optrusty> daftykins -_-
[01:33] <LS__> Toshiba is the brand Satellite is the model name
[01:33] <optrusty> LS__ NVM
[01:33] <daftykins> optrusty: ^5
[01:34] <optrusty> LS__ Restart you PC and press F12 While you are restarting then choose your HDD
[01:34] <LS__> What if I used the HDD drive as a partition though? I can switch back to my usb stick right?
[01:34] <optrusty> LS__ What do you mean as a partition
[01:35] <optrusty> LS__ Are you trying to daul boot
[01:35] <optrusty> LS__ You can switch back to USB
[01:35] <LS__> Well why would it show my drive in the left panel of my ubuntu screen the 500gb drive?
[01:35] <LS__> like why can I mount and unmount it? is that suppose to be right?
[01:35] <optrusty> LS__ What is the PROBLEM FIRST OF ALL
[01:36] <LS__> Well I am wondering why does it ask me to install each time I start or it asks me to test before installing not showing a user account
[01:36] <optrusty> LS__ Take out your USB drive
[01:37] <optrusty> LS__ I think you set your first device as USB
[01:37] <AiriA> Take out the USB and set boot order back to DVD then HDD
[01:37] <LS__> I did because I thought I had to right? In order to load ubuntu you need to swithc in bios to load usb but to switch to windows I load the HDD right in bios?
[01:38] <OerHeks> i have to set bootorder in 2 places, usb/dvd/hdd/network and in diskorder
[01:38] <AiriA> No, when you install Ubuntu it asks if you want to install along side Windows. After install Ubuntu it installs a program called GRUb which when you boot the machine gives you a choice of which OS to load
[01:39] <ekristen> anyone have the oracle-java7-installer=7u51-0~webupd8~7
[01:39] <ekristen> I need that specific version but I can’t seem to find the file anywhere
[01:39] <optrusty> LS__ But Why windows
[01:39] <LS__> AiriA YES! your on what I need to know now.
[01:39] <LS__> Okay so what at this point does it sound like I should try and do switch my bios to HDD then see if it will load windows without the usb in and see if I got both?
[01:39] <optrusty> LS__ Are you trying acomplish daul boot
[01:40] <OerHeks> ekristen, current is  oracle-java7-installer	7u67+7u60arm-0~webupd8~4, they do not pay for launchpad so they cannot keep old versions
[01:40] <LS__> Optrusty yes if possible but by any chance which I think I did install it on my main windows overwriting it with ubuntu I want to just make it stable so it doesn't start the subboot screen each time
[01:40] <OerHeks> ekristen, contact the ppa maintainer
[01:40] <ekristen> OerHeks: yeah I’m asking if anyone happens to have the old file laying around their repo someplace :) or in their cache
[01:41] <ekristen> OerHeks: I can try that
[01:46] <optrusty> LS__ Is your USB plugged in
[01:59] <riobe> Is Linux Mint similar enough to Ubuntu (I read it's based on Ubuntu and compatible with it's repositories) that it would still be appropriate to ask questions while in it in this channel if I go make a new VM install of it?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> !mint | riobe,
[02:00] <riobe> That answers that. Thanks.
[02:00] <cfhowlett> riobe, happy2help
[02:00] <riobe> Well, with 9 people there I'll stick with Ubuntu. This channel has been invaluable in learning Linux.
[02:01] <cfhowlett> !flavors | riobe, there are other flavors of ubuntu you might find more suitable
[02:02] <riobe> Well that's useful. Thanks again, ^.^
[02:04] <jayar> any link to the bash update for "shellshock?"
[02:05] <kostkon> !shellshock
[02:05] <jayar> so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade will fix it?
[02:05] <teward> jayar: a typical update will fix it, `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade`
[02:05] <teward> jayar: yes, a standard upgrade with the security repos enabled should get the update included
[02:06] <cfhowlett> jayar, or specifically install bash: sudo apt-get install bash
[02:06] <jayar> didnt work for me
[02:06] <jayar> guess my repos are not enabled...
[02:06] <cfhowlett> jayar, if *security* repos are not enabled, you're gonna have a baaaaaad time ...
[02:07] <jayar> lol
[02:07] <jayar> im trying to pizza instead of french fry
[02:07] <diegoaguilar> Hello I added some ppas
[02:07] <teward> jayar: i'd check your repositories and see if the security repos are enabled for your system, then issue an update
[02:07] <cfhowlett> jayar, this ^^^
[02:07] <jayar> checkin now
[02:07] <diegoaguilar> when I did the apt-get update I get some error about a key issue
[02:07] <unik> how can I add more Swap space safly with GParted tool?
[02:08] <unik> safely*
[02:08] <diegoaguilar> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4F4EA0AAE5267A6C
[02:08] <cfhowlett> diegoaguilar, "some error" is less than helpful
[02:08] <diegoaguilar> how can I fix it
[02:08] <diegoaguilar> there is my error cfhowlett
[02:08] <cfhowlett> diegoaguilar, it's a ppa.  not supported here.  sorry.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> diegoaguilar, I'm typing slower than you ... I'll wait before commenting   :)
[02:09] <rww> !gpgerr | diegoaguilar
[02:09] <jayar> they are enabled and i'm still not fixing....
[02:10] <Bashing-om> jayar: Also must restart bash for the new bash to take effect.
[02:10] <cfhowlett> jayar, try this:  sudo apt-get update     [to refresh your package database]   && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    [to upgrade *all* installed packages to the latest version in repos]
[02:11] <jayar> k
[02:18] <vicente> --help
[02:18] <cfhowlett> !help | vicente
[02:18] <x00x90> Hey guys, i have installed a minimal version of ubuntu, but i can't find a layout to my keyboard on /usr/share/kbd... (i think its using a built in kbd driver) How can i download a keymap layout ?
[02:19] <x00x90> i tried find / -name '*.map.gz' but i got no results
[02:20] <Alanbitsch> how can i totally uninstall jre7?
[02:21] <tyson2> what gives with the messed-up repos?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> !details | tyson2
[02:22] <Alanbitsch> !pastebin
[02:23] <tyson2> I am setting up a 14.04 instance on Linode, and was stymied trying to install Oracle JDK from the prescribed PPA's.  Hash errors. On Linode IRC they said repos have been messed up all day, and that I should ask Canonical what's going on
[02:24] <tyson2> the presumption is that it has to do with the Bash bug
[02:24] <tyson2> and the consequent checking of various packages
[02:25] <rww> As far as I know, Ubuntu's repositories are fine. PPAs are not officially supported (including here) and Oracle JDK in particular does not allow redistribution because Oracle are silly so we're not particularly keen to help with it.
[02:25] <cfhowlett> tyson2, ppa?  that would be the responsibility of the PPA maintainer so ... not necessarily canonical's issue.  too many places the bug could enter the equation to make an informed guess
[02:26] <Alanbitsch> how can i totally uninstall jre7?
[02:26] <rww> Alanbitsch: Oracle's, or the one in Ubuntu's repositories?
[02:26] <tyson2> got it, thanks rww and cfhowlett, will investigate further.  I need to install neo4j and while they support open jdk, they prefer Oracle for various reasons
[02:27] <cfhowlett> tyson2, hope it all works it self out for you.
[02:27] <Alanbitsch> rww : the one on the software center
[02:27] <tyson2> thanks cfhowlett
[02:28] <Alanbitsch> rww : also on the details it says that it has needs only 600kb on disk
[02:28] <Alanbitsch> rww : can you help me?
[02:28] <rww> Alanbitsch: no, I have no idea how the Software Center works, will leave it for someone who does
[02:29] <Alanbitsch> rww : is there another way? like terminal
[02:30] <Alanbitsch> rww : i need to completely uninstall it
[02:31] <Alanbitsch> rww : the problem is that i think it is corrupt
[02:39] <Alanbitsch> whats the best choice for opening .jar files?
[02:40] <OerHeks> java -jar /path/to/*.jar
[02:43] <elhoir> hello guys
[02:43] <ubbersith>  /msg NickServ identify ek8lhm1k33
[02:44] <elhoir> hello guys
[02:44] <elhoir> could you explain me what is the linux-tools-xxxx about?
[02:45] <genii> elhoir: Look up the packagename you're interested in finding out about at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and you can view whatever files are also inside that package
[02:46] <rww> e.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/i386/linux-tools-3.13.0-36/filelist
[02:48] <adoniscik> how can I clean up the boot cruft and avoid these dpkg errors? http://pastebin.com/Si6rsF18
[02:49] <elhoir> genii, im seeing them
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> adoniscik: im using bleachbit to cleanout
[02:49] <elhoir> but i dont know what are their purpose
[02:51] <squinty> elhoir:  try   apt -a show linux-tools-lts-trusty   in a terminal.
[02:52] <Caramoan> Hello Ubuntusers!!!
[02:52] <squinty> elhoir:  to see what   linux-tools-*  packages are available  type   apt search linux-tools | less
[02:53] <squinty> elhoir:  or install Synaptic package manager for lookups, installs, file install locations etc
[02:53] <genii> elhoir: Basically each linux-tools-XXXX package has the same tools but optimized for whatever kernel the XXXXX part describes. So as you see in the filelist, all the stuff that goes into /usr/bin like cpupower, perf, turbostat.
[02:54] <samthewildone> Caramoan, hey
[02:54] <elhoir> genii, aha, thats what i wanted. Thank you so much
[02:56] <Caramoan> samthewildone,  what's up?
[02:56] <diegoaguilar> ubottu, how can I find which is the package whose key failed
[02:56] <oswaldo_> hola
[02:57] <samthewildone> Caramoan, nothing much.
[02:57] <cfhowlett> !es | oswaldo_,
[02:57] <rww> diegoaguilar: the gpg ID you need is the one in the error message. plug that into the command ubottu gave you
[02:58] <oswaldo_> hola
[02:58] <smais> #ubuntu.ch
[02:58] <smais> 中文
[02:59] <OerHeks> !cn
[03:00] <sheap> hey all, I'm getting this wierd error on my trusty install: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/136925/
[03:00] <elhoir> oswaldo_, en ingles, por favor. El canal español es #ubuntu-es
[03:00] <oswaldo_> yo se
[03:00] <hfp> Hi all, I have a usenet downloader that is running Ubuntu 12.04. Is it safe to upgrade to 14.04 with `do-release-update` or will it need tweaking and something more than just typing the command in and reboot?
[03:00] <sheap> the package that it says it's going to install looks like the correct version...what's going on?
[03:01] <OerHeks> sheap version 0ubuntu1 <> 0ubuntu1.1
[03:01] <OerHeks> sheap, run updates first, maybe that solves this issue
[03:01] <sheap> OerHeks: OH
[03:02] <sheap> OerHeks: it's a preseed install...how would I do that?
[03:02] <OerHeks> preseed, that has been a long time ..
[03:03] <elhoir> hfp, usually you only have to reboot after "do-release-upgrade" (not update ;) )
[03:03] <sheap> also, in the preseed the "trusty updates" mirror is not included
[03:03] <sheap> so I don't know why it's pulling 1.1
[03:03]  * sheap investigates further
[03:04] <elhoir> hfp, oh, wait, are you running (and using) apache, samba...?
[03:04] <Snake2k> hfp: I don't trust the "do-release-update" thing, I back up and do a fresh install :| But that's just me.
[03:04] <elhoir> Snake2k, man..... xD
[03:06] <onryo> was wondering if your ubuntu machines are still vulnerable to CVE-2014-7169 after the patch?
[03:06] <onryo> X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "/dev/stdout echo vulnerable to CVE-2014-7169" 2>/dev/null
[03:06] <Snake2k> elhoir: upgrade >_<
[03:06] <onryo> yeah ofc
[03:07] <onryo> I'm on Debian stable (Wheezy) and had to do a full dist-upgrade.
[03:07] <hfp> elhoir: Well CouchPotato, headphones, sabnzbd and nzbdrone all have their own webservers
[03:07] <hfp> And there is a reverse proxy in front of them
[03:07] <hfp> it's the tretflix image if you're familiar
[03:08] <hfp> Snake2k: I know... This is also why I'm not upgrading my gf's laptop... I'm scared it will break everything... And why upgrade if it's working fine
[03:08] <hfp> but I would sleep better knowing the latest possible version is installed :D
[03:09] <elhoir> hfp, also, you miss security updates if you dont update :)
[03:09] <onryo> because it is freaking easy to drop a reverse shell on your machine if you don't fix bash.
[03:09] <elhoir> but yes, you should investigate before doing it
[03:09] <hfp> elhoir: 12.04 is LTS so it gets updates
[03:10] <elhoir> until... 2017?
[03:10] <hfp> I just upgraded bash via apt-get to 4.3.26
[03:10] <onryo> You can test to see if you are vulnerable with this. If it says "Vulnerable to CVE-20147169" you need to patch bash.
[03:10] <onryo> X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "/dev/stdout echo vulnerable to CVE-2014-7169" 2>/dev/null
[03:10] <hfp> Well yeah but by then I'll see. I'll probably hve replaced the OS before
[03:10] <elhoir> :)
[03:11] <hfp> onryo: Yes, thanks, already taken care of on all my machines
[03:11] <Snake2k> hfp: But 14.04 is so awesome :| lol
[03:11] <onryo> Nothing echoed out? Ubuntu is patched for this? Debian need a dist-upgrade.
[03:11]  * elhoir is using 14.10 since.... some months xD
[03:11] <rww> hopefully not in production
[03:11] <hfp> Snake2k: Well that's the other thing... The tretflix is a headless server that runs CLI only. And my gf wouldn't notice the improvements of 14.04 over 12.04... It's just my geeky self that feels bothered not to have the latest verison running
[03:12] <elhoir> rww, nah, only in my own PCs :)
[03:12] <Sunstream> Okay I need to update Adobe Flash for Ubuntu. I cannot do it via the web browser, is there a way to get it either via sudo Apt-get Install?
[03:12] <cfhowlett> Snake2k, at least upgrade to the latest 12.04.5     with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:12] <Sunstream> or in the software store
[03:12] <elhoir> Sunstream, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[03:12] <Sunstream> thank you
[03:12] <hfp> onryo: Nothing echoed out. My debian wheezy machines are also on the altest bash... 4.2.37
[03:13] <Snake2k> hfp: Yea she probably won't see that many differences, the interface is pretty awesome though, a few good things here and there... I'm using i3 so... yea :|
[03:13] <Snake2k> cfhowlett: I have 14.04 :|
[03:13] <l2ksolkov> I'm trying to do sudo apt-get update and it says W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A777609328949509
[03:13] <hfp> Snake2k: Oh well, I'll go with the if it aint broke dont fix it. And try to sleep at night
[03:13] <cfhowlett> Snake2k, eh?  ok, I misread.  sorrry
[03:14] <l2ksolkov> And i don't have any ppas other than the defaults installed.
[03:14] <onryo> rww just the crap I code but did my first dist-upgrade since wheezy. After owning my own machine (rooting) I did not want to take that chance.
[03:14] <Snake2k> hfp: True true
[03:14] <Snake2k> cfhowlett: Nah it's all good :)
[03:14] <onryo> aptitude versions bash - i   4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3
[03:14] <Sunstream> okay issue
[03:15] <Sunstream> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.....
[03:16] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys A777609328949509
[03:16] <rww> Sunstream: Adobe dropped support for Flash on Linux a few versions ago. Google releases flash updates for Chrome, but those only work on Chrome (and Chromium, I believe), not e.g. Firefox.
[03:16] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: That should fix it maybe :|
[03:16] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: I work alot on "maybe" lol
[03:16] <hfp> ty all, good night!
[03:16] <Sunstream> I know and this is rather annoying
[03:16] <Snake2k> hfp: peace!
[03:16] <rww> Sunstream: if you're using Chrome/Chromium and on Trusty, see the package pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[03:16] <rww> otherwise, no can help :|
[03:17] <Sunstream> I tried to get the latest version within the adobe website and tried APT 10.04+ and it opened firefox which is not good
[03:17] <Sunstream> I am on trust 14.04
[03:18] <Sunstream> so pepperflash
[03:18] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, it fixed it, thanks!, now another problem that made me do that is in my applet tray in the right corner there's a restriction sign and it says that i need to run apt-get and the error message was Error: BrokenCount > 0'
[03:19] <l2ksolkov> I've tried rebooting and it comes back.
[03:19] <Snake2k> Sunstream: Which browser are you using?
[03:19] <Sunstream> I use firefox primarily but I do use chrome from time to time
[03:20] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: No problem, did you try "sudo apt-get install --fix-broken" ?
[03:20] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[03:21] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, i was doing install -f and that's what gave me the key error, and i ran fix-broken and it did nothing.
[03:21] <Snake2k> Sunstream: Did you try installing the flashplugin-installer via apt-get intall?
[03:21] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: Hmmmm
[03:22] <thakyZ> even though this is a ubuntu irc chat does anyone by any chance know if a chrome book has a built in bluetooth transcever?
[03:22] <Sunstream> Yes, but it did this
[03:22] <Sunstream> flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.....
[03:22] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: I have no idea, maybe this could help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223143/broken-package-after-update-linux-headers-error-brokencount-0
[03:22] <cfhowlett> thakyZ, ask the chrome channel
[03:22] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, right as i visited that page it magically went away.
[03:23] <thakyZ> kk thx
[03:23] <rww> thakyZ: different chromebooks have different hardware anyway
[03:23] <Snake2k> Sunstream: Hmmmm... other than that I only know about pepperflash with chromium
[03:25] <Sunstream> I did get it
[03:25] <Sunstream> but it said
[03:25] <raj> My bash install is vulnerable to the exploit
[03:25] <raj> how can I update bash?
[03:25] <rww> raj: which ubuntu version?
[03:25] <Tabuto> hello friends i have ran into an error installing ubuntu on my chrombook and was hoping to get a little advice
[03:25] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: Well.......... Guess the link kinda helped lmao I'd reboot just to be safe :|
[03:25] <raj> 14.04 LTS
[03:25] <Sunstream> 014-09-26 21:21:21 (749 KB/s) - ‘/tmp/pepperflashplugin-nonfree.C8FIMQKoPS/google-chrome-stable_37.0.2062.120-1_i386.deb’ saved [50042724/50042724]
[03:26] <rww> !shellshock
[03:26] <rww> tl;dr: update as normal
[03:26] <Sunstream> now what I need to know is where that is at
[03:26] <Sunstream> I went to the tmp directory and it was not there
[03:26] <raj> rww, apt-get install bash ?
[03:27] <Snake2k> Sunstream: You did that with apt-get install? shouldn't it install by itself? :|
[03:27] <Sunstream> I dunno it did that
[03:27] <cfhowlett> rww, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:27] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, the system reboots every 24h/at midnight and i'm too lazy to hit two buttons :P
[03:28] <Sunstream> after showing me stuff like 47650K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 97%  703K 2s till it said the saved line
[03:28] <Snake2k> Sunstream: Could you run the command and copy the entire output to pastebin and link it?
[03:29] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: Hahahaha lol I know how you feet, I'm too lazy to even reboot it now :|
[03:29] <Tabuto> ok this is the erro i ran into
[03:30] <Tabuto> --- /tmp/crouton.ny3/host-bin/enter-chroot: 258: cannot create /var/run/crouton/mnt/stateful_partition/crouton/chroots/precise/etc/crouton/name: Directory nonexistent
[03:30] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, besides it's just a default install with no modifications other than updates, i use it to get my email so if it does break there's really nothing to loose.
[03:30] <Sunstream> pastebin?
[03:30] <raj> ok, resolved, thanks rww
[03:31] <Snake2k> Sunstream: Yep, just paste your output at http://pastebin.com/ and hit submit, then link the page here... It's easier to read large logs/code/outputs like that :)
[03:31] <rww> Tabuto: #crouton for Crouton discussion and support, not here.
[03:31] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: Aaaahhhh true true, I have way too much stuff on my system :|
[03:31] <Tabuto> thanks
[03:31] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, isn't it http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[03:31] <rww> ashis436: fix your IRC client, please
[03:31] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: Yep
[03:32] <Snake2k> l2ksolkov: I personally like http://paste.ofcode.org/ though, darker theme lol
[03:33] <Sunstream> Okay I can copy the entire output without redoing the command I am on paste bin  http://pastebin.com/UXBEB7Sp
[03:35] <Sunstream> okay Snake2k  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8437525/
[03:36] <l2ksolkov> Snake2k, i don't like pastebin because of the ads. I might start using paste.ofcode.org though :)
[03:36] <LSUser76> Anyway to use a VPN wit ubuntu?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !openvpn | LSUser76,
[03:37] <rww> openvpn is the server, not the client
[03:37] <Sunstream> oh I see what happened
[03:37] <LSUser76> Yea but its only a client not service right?
[03:37] <Sunstream> apparently
[03:37] <rww> for the client, see the normal network configuration page
[03:37] <Sunstream> from the looks
[03:37] <Sunstream> it downloaded the newest version of Chrome.....
[03:37] <Sunstream> i realized that after looking at the filename.deb
[03:38] <Sunstream> oh now I broke Snake2k
[03:38] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Lmao
[03:39] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Router freaked out :|
[03:39] <rww> no breaking the users, that's our chanops' job
[03:39] <LSUser76> No way I can use a program like Windows has CyberGhostVPN.com? They have the client easy to use and also the service is free with options of premium if you want but not required..
[03:39] <Sunstream> I did not mean to break users
[03:39] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Hmmm interesting, that's what pepperflash did to me aswell... I guess that's just what happens :|
[03:39] <Sunstream> and after looking at the filename
[03:40] <Sunstream> and the start of the test
[03:40] <Sunstream> err text output it downloaded Chromium
[03:40] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: huh?
[03:41] <Sunstream> Snake2k_, google-chrome-stable_37.0.2062.120-1_i386.deb' saved that looks like it downloaded Chrome
[03:41] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Yep, it did the same for me :|
[03:41] <Sunstream> look at the first lines
[03:42] <Sunstream> it went to google and i saw the url then put one and one together and came up with 11 and realized it downloaded chrome but I cannot find the deb package I went to the directory UNLESS it ran it
[03:42] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: That's probably what happened, because it does set up pepperflash before it goes for chrome
[03:42] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: So I guess.... It worked...
[03:43] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: What was the initial problem again? lol
[03:43] <Sunstream> well
[03:43] <Sunstream> Trying to play amazon instant videos but needs the latest flash plugin to run and I tried to download it via Chromium and it opened firefox when i selected APT for the version and bleh
[03:44] <Darth_Co1er> ...
[03:44] <Darth_Co1er> Snake2k turns into Snake2k_ and Darth_Coder into Co1er :|
[03:44] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: ^me :|
[03:44] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: So it's still not playing videos?
[03:44] <Sunstream> Well no I am trying now
[03:45] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: http://goo.gl/lRHMRO
[03:47] <Sunstream> so I have to go throuigh the software center...
[03:47] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Well... apt-get is the CLI version imo lol
[03:47] <Sunstream> i like using command line bleah
[03:48] <Sunstream> well then I will go through it
[03:48] <Snake2k_> Sunstream: Yep agreed lol
[03:48] <Sunstream> it is not really that important I do have a smart tv that can play it plus a fire tablet so
[03:50] <BQ> how to get number of lines for all files under a folder?
[03:51] <thakyZ> I cannot log into my ubuntu os system it says failed to start session what do I do?
[03:51] <Darth_Coder> BQ: wc -l *
[03:52] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: I'm messing around with the Snake2k machine, hit me up here lol
[03:53] <thakyZ> can some one help me I gtg soon
[03:55] <Darth_Coder> thakyZ: What did you do before that happened?
[03:55] <BQ> Darth_Coder: but it does not count subfolders.
[03:56] <thakyZ> I removed some of the default installed programs and I think one of them that had to be removed with it was either ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-session
[03:56] <Sunstream> Darth_Coder,  apparently it was installed but I removed it and now I am reinstalling
[03:56] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: Weird :|
[03:56] <Darth_Coder> BQ: hmmm
[03:56] <Darth_Coder> thakyZ: ubuntu-desktop, reinstall it
[03:56] <Bashing-om> thakyZ: ^^ and what desktop are you running ? and can you login at a terminal ?
[03:57] <Sunstream> go into the software center and do the search for pepper plugin Darth_Coder  it will be like that too
[03:57] <Darth_Coder> thakyZ: ctrl+alt+f1 for shell login prompt
[03:57] <__unik> thakyZ: ctrl+alt+f7 to get back
[03:57] <thakyZ> kk I am trying to login now
[03:58] <GNU_Pizza> Alt F7 to go back :>
[03:58] <thakyZ> ok I loged in
[03:58] <thakyZ> so what do I do to get to the desktop
[03:58] <Darth_Coder> BQ: find . | xargs wc -l
[03:59] <Darth_Coder> thakyZ: Login to your shell prompt from CTRL+ALT+F1, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, reboot
[03:59] <yeahnoob> BQ: or use, $ wc  `find .` -l
[03:59] <Bashing-om> thakyZ: Unity ?? as your DE .. try sudo service lighdm restart , what results ?
[03:59] <GNU_Pizza> !find shellshock
[03:59] <Darth_Coder> BQ: or what yeahnoob said
[04:00] <GNU_Pizza> good
[04:00] <Sunstream> Okay installed trying to play again if fail its okay, I will just watch it through the Vizio M322i B1
[04:01] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: or install Google Chrome, it works perfectly for me :|
[04:01] <Sunstream> I have Google Chrome installed
[04:01] <Josef_> Hey there.
[04:01] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: Google Chrome is giving you problems too? :|
[04:02] <Josef_> So how can I change my IRC username?
[04:02] <Josef_> I mean I really have no idea from where I created like 3 years ago.
[04:02] <yigal> ?
[04:02] <Sunstream> it looks like it is trying to play but I see/hear nothing
[04:02] <yigal> ?
[04:02] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: Chromium or Chrome?
[04:03] <Sunstream> mium
[04:03] <yigal> Sunstream: nice, OSS all the way
[04:03] <Darth_Coder> Josef_: Sounds like a good question for #freenode or something lol
[04:03] <Josef_> The fuck is that?
[04:03] <yigal> woh there brother watch the language
[04:04] <Josef_> I mean I don't even know if I entered a password.
[04:04] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: I had that problem once with Soundcloud... sudo apt-get chromium-codecs-ffmpeg chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extras
[04:04] <Josef_> Man, IRC is confusing.
[04:04] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: that fixed it for me :|
[04:04] <Darth_Coder> Josef_: #freenode is a channel, do you mean nick? then /nick <newnick>... like... /nick cookieofdoom
[04:04] <yigal> Josef_: that should fix you up
[04:04] <Darth_Coder> Josef_: Do a /join #freenode to join that channel
[04:05] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: apt-get install i mean
[04:07] <yigal> this is off topic but I still think aptitude > apt-get, at least the idea of unifying all of the package stuffs is good, digit?
[04:07] <yigal> s/g/&g
[04:07] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I use aptitude to just search stuff :|
[04:07] <yigal> Darth_Coder: yah man regex all the way
[04:08] <yigal> Darth_Coder: and smart searching, no one who understands can knock it
[04:08] <yigal> anyways
[04:08] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I love Regex but it scares me :| I have nightmares about regex :(
[04:09] <yigal> Darth_Coder: as a Linux admin of 3+ years regex is good, it just takes time to ease into the stream
[04:09] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I agree, it has a curve to it... and vi/vim :| But once you get it, you end up using it all the time lol
[04:09] <SchrodingersScat> The nightmares go away, then you see someone use regex you don't understand.
[04:09] <Darth_Coder> SchrodingersScat: Hahahahah lmao
[04:11] <GNU_Pizza> !find terminator
[04:11] <Darth_Coder> GNU_Pizza: terminator > life
[04:11] <yigal> I guess not understanding can be better than a nightmare, not sure
[04:11] <GNU_Pizza> :))
[04:11] <__unik> !find kubuntu
[04:12] <Darth_Coder> yigal: depends I guess :|
[04:12] <yigal> Darth_Coder: trudat
[04:12] <Darth_Coder> GNU_Pizza: terminator + i3 + green on black themes, gawd.
[04:12] <Darth_Coder> GNU_Pizza: I don't need a life after that lol
[04:13] <GNU_Pizza> cool-retro-term + tmux
[04:13] <GNU_Pizza> :)))
[04:13] <GNU_Pizza> gtg fix a bug
[04:13] <yigal> GNU_Pizza: 4 the win
[04:13] <GNU_Pizza> see ya!
[04:13] <BQ> thanks. how to suppress the output except the last line(the total)?
[04:14] <Darth_Coder> BQ: Like calculate all lines to one statement?
[04:14] <yigal> BQ: sounds like awk is in the house
[04:15] <Darth_Coder> BQ: i agree with yigal
[04:15] <Sunstream> lol I used the command to remove the package because it said it was broken and it removed Cromium lol
[04:15] <yigal> but I don't know the original question, so I'll let more in the know cats answer this
[04:15] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: Lmao hahaha
[04:15] <l2ksolkov> What is XTERM and UXTERM for?
[04:15] <l2ksolkov> I see no use.
[04:15] <yigal> l2ksolkov: using a console without the bloat, well less of the bloat than gnome-term
[04:16] <Darth_Coder> l2ksolkov: UXTerm has unicode support
[04:16] <yigal> l2ksolkov: of course urxvt and companions fit that nicely
[04:16] <Sunstream> yep So I got to reinstall it however that is okay
[04:16] <yigal> Sunstream: nice catch
[04:17] <Darth_Coder> I spend 90% of my time on the terminal, after realizing that I just installed a tiling wm and let go of GUIs lol
[04:17] <yigal> Darth_Coder: what you using?
[04:17] <Sunstream> well at least it will have the latest version
[04:17] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I'm using i3, my irc client = irssi, text editor = vim, file browser = ranger, music player = cmus lol
[04:17] <Sunstream> besides I get to practice installing things again
[04:18] <yigal> Sunstream: + your user's files shouldn't be removed, so it's just adding the package
[04:18] <Darth_Coder> yigal: i3wm is pretty good, extremely fast because it hardly has anything to do except tile stuff :|
[04:18] <yigal> Darth_Coder: nice, I met a cool cat who used i3 this week
[04:18] <Sunstream> I forgot the package name so I had to go through the USC to reinstall it
[04:18] <Sunstream> yeah I didnt use the complete remove command
[04:18] <yigal> Darth_Coder: I use unity or dwm a mix
[04:18] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: Practice is important, after a while you'll just get used to the cli :|
[04:19] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I really like Unity, it is extremely polished, but I switched to i3 because it saves me alot of processing. Ubuntu > Life.
[04:19] <Sunstream> I know how to use the CLI that isn not the problem Darth_Coder, I need to remember the package names lol
[04:20] <Guest73726> www.metrosmsjob.in
[04:20] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: tab completion mate :P I don't know any package names... I just go like sudo apt-get install chromium-<tab tab tab tab tab> and read them to remember lol
[04:20] <Darth_Coder> Sunstream: then I go like "oohhh yeeaaaaa that's what it's called" lol
[04:20] <Sunstream> Heh
[04:20] <yigal> Sunstream: get used to logs, go /var/log/apt/history and check what you did
[04:20] <Sunstream> Thats right I forgot they have made it easier
[04:21] <Sunstream> nods thats right yigal, but that is bothersome besides I got the program installing
[04:21] <yigal> Darth_Coder: yes, yes, yes, that's why I mix, not one single wm, just mix it true open source
[04:21] <yigal> Sunstream: dig it
[04:22] <Sunstream> heh
[04:22] <Sunstream> Found it writing it down for future reference
[04:23] <yigal> Sunstream: oh yah, that's good, but don't forget the logs
[04:23] <Sunstream> chromium-browser
[04:24] <yigal> Sunstream: instead of the google-chrome, you're all open source sir
[04:24] <Darth_Coder> yigal: Mixing is awesome! I wonder how i3wm works within Unity though...
[04:24] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I use Google Chrome :'( [On my other system]
[04:24] <Sunstream> heh
[04:24] <yigal> Darth_Coder: man I was so awe struck when I saw xmonad working with compiz a few years back
[04:24] <Darth_Coder> yigal: [not giving this one to google, facebook, any of those corporate demons] lol
[04:24] <yigal> Darth_Coder: right on man
[04:25] <yigal> man that was 5 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxpzNGppcbs
[04:25] <yigal> stil worth it
[04:25] <yigal> tiling window manager + bling
[04:26] <Darth_Coder> yigal: Aaaahhh nice! it's shiny too :|
[04:26] <yigal> Darth_Coder: you know it, so shiny
[04:27] <Darth_Coder> yigal: Might give that a shot one day :|
[04:27] <Sunstream> well it plays but too choppy then again i have a crappy system so its to the tv for the playing. Heheheheh and I try to be open source as much as I can
[04:27] <Sunstream> better programs
[04:27] <yigal> Sunstream: better at least in the long run
[04:28] <yigal> Sunstream: but I understand the frustration that can happen
[04:28] <yigal> Darth_Coder: cool man, so much to choose from these days
[04:29] <yigal> yena: thanks for coming in I had know idea there was a pronoun with your taken name http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yena
[04:30] <yigal> s/know/no
[04:30] <desiderio_> hello
[04:30] <desiderio_> anybody here?
[04:30] <yigal> hello desiderio_
[04:30] <yigal> unofortunately likely not
[04:31] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I agree, and if you install alot of stuff it destroys your system :|
[04:32] <yigal> Darth_Coder: I'm getting better at taking those necessary backups to bring it all back to where it was good
[04:32] <yigal> Darth_Coder: not perfect :)
[04:32] <yena> yigal: It's not zulu.
[04:32] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I only have a few things that I always keep a backup of... Terminator/Irssi/Bash/Vim files and my Dev Projects
[04:34] <yigal> Darth_Coder: have you tried zsh?
[04:34] <yigal> Darth_Coder: best interactive shell ever!!
[04:34] <yigal> Darth_Coder: not knocking your setup, just personal thoughts
[04:35] <yigal> Darth_Coder: disregard no need for flame wars
[04:35] <Darth_Coder> yigal: Yep I have zsh is extremely awesome, I keep switching between zsh and bash... still need to m/u/m/mi <tab make/up/my/mind lmao
[04:35] <yigal> yena: what be it?
[04:36] <yigal> Darth_Coder: lmao, yah, I use bash for scripting and zsh for interactive stuffs
[04:36] <yena> It's Korean, yigal. so Blame wiktionary
[04:37] <Darth_Coder> yigal: I use IPython for scripting... I'm weird :(
[04:37] <Darth_Coder> brb all
[04:37] <yigal> Darth_Coder: it's a full environment
[04:40] <yigal> yena: I guess it's Korean
[04:40] <yigal> yena: at least that would be the educated guess to make
[04:45] <yigal> yena: the Zulu is meaning is pretty mind bending tbh
[04:50] <yigal> s/is//
[05:00] <zeon98_> hi all, normally i pop in here for linux help, tonight im just bored. anyone know a channel where bored people can go?
[05:01] <bubbasaures> zeon98_, #ubuntu-offtopic could have the boredom needed.
[05:03] <zeon98_> thanks bubbasaures
[05:03] <yigal> there is #boredatwork but there are only two people in there, like one is a bot, if not both
[05:07] <yigal> Guest68717: why did you choose that number, I see nothing interesting in it
[05:08] <yigal> Guest68717: I mean it's not even prime
[05:09] <yigal> “The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.” ― Winston Churchill
[05:10] <yigal> and with that I wish you all a fair good night
[05:15] <Darth_Coder> Back
[05:34] <Laxus_25> there?
[05:34] <Laxus_25> anybody?
[05:34] <samthewildone> Laxus_25, yes
[05:35]  * EllieGoulding has entered the building
[05:42] <Guest71365> is it possible to purge (not manually ) configuration files after apt-get remove ?
[05:44] <Stats_Ethan> Yes, if you type "apt-get purge [program]" like you would if it was still installed apt should remove the configuration files.
[05:44] <Stats_Ethan> Well, "sudo apt-get purge [program]" since you'll have to run it as super user.
[05:45] <fedora_newb> I have a video card of 770m with the driver 340.32 driver being used. Every once in awhile I get these 'artifacts' / glitches where certain parts of text and/or parts of the screen start blinking/disappearing. Only stops when I move the window around or resize. This is on a laptop with an external monitor connected by hdmi. Happens on both screens. Any ideas on how to stop this from happening?
[05:46] <testerr> Hi all! I'm trying to configure a static IP in Ubuntu Server 14.04 64bit. My config. for /etc/network/interfaces is at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/6NRkEfbI3D . After saving /etc/network/interfaces and trying to do 'ifup eth0', I get "Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "1xx.xxx.xxx.xxx/255.255.255.0" (where the first number is the actual machine IP address). Any advice on what's going wrong?
[05:49] <Guest71365> is /usr/bin/sudo -s /bin/bash the recommended method of switching to superuser?
[05:49] <Guest71365> are there disadvantages of /usr/bin/sudo -s su ?
[05:50] <zeon98> sudo -s will keep you in the root user
[05:50] <zeon98> What you trying to do?
[05:51] <Guest71365> switch to root
[05:51] <Guest71365> Stats_Ethan: I have tried apt-get purge package, it does not work, configuration files are still there
[05:52] <Guest71365> Stats_Ethan: Ubuntu 12.04
[05:53] <zeon98> purge will sometimes leave config files behind.
[05:53] <zeon98> track them down and remove them if yoiu think you need too
[05:55] <Guest71365> zeon98: it is no solution, a way better way is to just reinstall and then purge the application, but it is still unsatisfactory
[05:55] <zeon98> what are youtrying to remove?
[05:56] <Guest71365> apache
[05:56] <Guest71365> but dammit, reinstalling and purging it does not work, also
[05:56] <zeon98> tbh is there is not a process running from whatever your trying to renmove, and  it doesnt pose a sec risk it really shouldnt matter
[05:58] <EllieGoulding> apt-get purge apache && apt-get autoremove
[05:58] <EllieGoulding> or was it apache2
[05:58] <zeon98> apt-get purge apache2 should remove everything apart from the conf files. which can be annoying but track them down to you distro and manually remove them too should do the job.
[05:58] <EllieGoulding> cant remember the exact package name I use nginx lol
[05:58] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: does not work, also
[05:58] <Guest71365> :(
[05:59] <Stats_Ethan> When I set up a web server I just do "sudo apt-get purge apache*" and install nginx.
[05:59] <zeon98> pretty sure apache doesnt exsist in the repos any more.
[05:59] <EllieGoulding> really, should remove it, might leave some crap in /etc which you can just remove
[05:59] <Stats_Ethan> Then I just leave whatever config files are leftover since I don't really care to go find them.
[05:59] <Guest71365> zeon98: ??
[06:00] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: I know that I can do it by hand. But I want to keep my system clean and I don't want to do extra work to be able to do that.
[06:00] <zeon98> so Guest71365 , your trying to remove apache2 and all config files?
[06:00] <Guest71365> zeon98: exactly
[06:00] <Stats_Ethan> I think doing it by hand is the only option if autoremove isn't touching them.
[06:00] <Stats_Ethan> *puge
[06:01] <Stats_Ethan> *purge
[06:01] <zeon98> And after purge how do you know there is stuff left?
[06:01] <EllieGoulding> purge removes most things
[06:01] <Guest71365> zeon98: because I look at it
[06:01] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: seems like a bug
[06:01] <zeon98> look at what
[06:01] <Stats_Ethan> If you know where it is then why not just rm it?
[06:01] <EllieGoulding> otherwise you can make a script that cleans the tiny cracks that purge missed
[06:02] <Guest71365> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf - this is the default apache configuration file in ubuntu, right?
[06:02] <zeon98> yes
[06:02] <zeon98> mostly
[06:02] <EllieGoulding> just make a script that purges it and removes the config file in /etc after the purge
[06:02] <zeon98> but it tend to appear else where too
[06:03] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: I know how I could do it. It is not actually matter of that. Fully removing apache is not my primary goal. My primary goal is to find a command which will purge applications installed from repos for sure.
[06:03] <zeon98> hows your linux cli know how EllieGoulding ?
[06:03] <Stats_Ethan> Or just purge it then do "sudo rm /etc/apache2/apache2.conf"?
[06:04] <Stats_Ethan> Guest71365: Well there is no perfect program that does that every single time so apt-get purge is as close as you're going to get.
[06:04] <zeon98> What is the problem it is causing you?
[06:04] <Guest71365> zeon98: are you talking to me?
[06:04] <EllieGoulding> my cli knowhow is meh
[06:04] <zeon98> yes.
[06:04] <testerr> I figured out my question from earlier; nvm : )
[06:04] <G_0_D> Hello
[06:04] <Guest71365> Stats_Ethan: it should be simple for apt-get purge to remove configuration files
[06:04] <Guest71365> zeon98: the problem is mess
[06:04] <EllieGoulding> just have a couple of Ubuntu servers atm
[06:04] <G_0_D> I am your GOD!
[06:05] <Stats_Ethan> Guest71365: Are you a developer?
[06:05] <EllieGoulding> but as far as I know purge does the most thorough remove of packages
[06:05] <Guest71365> Stats_Ethan: no, although I can program small scripts
[06:05] <G_0_D> www.I-AM-GOD.com
[06:05] <Stats_Ethan> Well then you don't know how simple or complex it should be. :p
[06:05] <zeon98> purge does leave config files behind though
[06:05] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding, zeon: could you check this thing with apache on your own machines?
[06:05] <zeon98> yeah
[06:06] <EllieGoulding> I dont have apache installed lol
[06:06] <Guest71365> Stats_Ethan: Yes, I know. Before installing apache you don't have the apache configuration file. After you have. Now, you just calculate the difference and remove files on that basis.
[06:06] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: excellent. So just install it, if you could.
[06:06] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: then try to purge
[06:06] <EllieGoulding> can prob spin up a vm real quicke
[06:07] <zeon98> EllieGoulding: cant remember the default names that apache2 gives to config files.
[06:08] <zeon98> surely if you knew that a locate cmd could hunt them down.
[06:09] <Guest71365> OK, in this case I will write my own tracking mechanism
[06:09] <zeon98> or maybe just a *conf would help spot them if its not a full blown system?
[06:09] <Guest71365> but it is awful, I can say
[06:09] <Guest71365> zeon98: what?
[06:09] <Guest71365> but it is a serious bug
[06:09] <Aamit> after upgrading to 3.16 kernel my Webcam not working.....Anybody Plz help..
[06:09] <zeon98> I know, its annoying
[06:10] <zeon98> i have a pi that i can not remove corrupt conf files no matter how hard i try.
[06:11] <zeon98> what about something like
[06:11] <zeon98> find * | grep conf
[06:11] <Guest71365> apt-get remove package does not work correctly, also
[06:12] <Guest71365> zeon98: everything is fine with it, but remember that purging apache is not primary goal
[06:12] <zeon98> ive had this before with apache2
[06:12] <Guest71365> zeon98: what did you have?
[06:12] <EllieGoulding> so apt-get purge apache2 && apt-get autoremove
[06:12] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: I repeat for the third time: it does not work. It does not remove the configuration files.
[06:12] <zeon98> apache2 conf files that i couldnt remove
[06:12] <EllieGoulding> then rm -r /etc/apache2
[06:13] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: and I repeat once again: it is not about purging apache
[06:13] <zeon98> so once again, what is it that your trying to solve?
[06:14] <EllieGoulding> well that removes apache + configs
[06:14] <Guest71365> zeon98: I'm researching how decent Ubuntu is.
[06:14] <EllieGoulding> cant find any more configs anywhere after doing that
[06:14] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: did you test it on your own machine?
[06:14] <EllieGoulding> yea
[06:15] <EllieGoulding> tested it on a vm with the lamp stack
[06:15] <zeon98> Purge works for me.
[06:15] <Guest71365> EllieGoulding: thanks. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:15] <EllieGoulding> 14.04
[06:15] <zeon98> me too
[06:15] <Guest71365> so, either something is broken on my machine, or 12.04 has a bug
[06:15] <Guest71365> ok, I've found a way
[06:15] <zeon98> maybe a bug.
[06:15] <Guest71365> but apt-get autoremove does not seem to work correctly
[06:15] <Guest71365> I did that:
[06:16] <Guest71365> apt-get remove apache
[06:16] <zeon98> maybe a setup issue in the first place.
[06:16] <EllieGoulding> what happens
[06:16] <Guest71365> zeon98: like what?
[06:16] <EllieGoulding> maybe broken deps?
[06:16] <EllieGoulding> apt-get install -f
[06:16] <Guest71365> and than I did apt-get purge and here I listed all apache packages, apt-get autoremove does not want to remove them
[06:16] <Guest71365> reinstalling apache and I have clean configuration files
[06:17] <Guest71365> but evidently something's broken
[06:17] <zeon98> if your messed with sym links etc, conf files could be in places that a purge doesnt understand.
[06:17] <Guest71365> zeon98: nothing like that
[06:18] <Guest71365> apt-get purge apache2 && apt-get --purge autoremove - should purge apache, yes?
[06:18] <zeon98> and how do you know that there are conf files left behind after a purge command?
[06:18] <somsip> Guest71365: unless you have created any files yourself that are in any of the apache dirs
[06:19] <jamin> what's the best way to call attention to a security bug report that you've filed on launchpad but isn't getting any response?
[06:19] <EllieGoulding> it still leaves a config in /etc
[06:19] <EllieGoulding> thats basically what I did lol
[06:20] <zero_coder> i have my computer having internet connection over wifi. and i have a wifi router can i tether my internet connection through that router using lan cable?
[06:21] <EllieGoulding> huh
[06:24] <narbeh> zero_coder: yes you can,
[06:25] <Guest71365> ok, so I somehow purged apache, now I have clean Apache installation
[06:25] <Guest71365> let us try to purge it
[06:26] <zero_coder> narbeh: by setting 'automatic' to 'shared to other computers' ?
[06:26] <narbeh> zero_coder: exactly
[06:26] <zero_coder> narbeh: thanks :)
[06:26] <Guest71365> well, now it purged apache
[06:26] <Guest71365> let us try another time
[06:27] <narbeh> zero_coder: welcome
[06:27] <zero_coder> i have been using the same for my  raspberry pi
[06:27] <zero_coder> :)
[06:29] <EllieGoulding> Now to do an apt-get install nginx ;)
[06:31] <agent_white> Evenin'.
[06:31] <Guest71365> strange, now it worked
[06:32] <Guest71365> agent_white: how do you pronounce Evenin'?
[06:32] <agent_white> Guest71365: "Evening"
[06:32] <Guest71365> agent_white: so what's the point of apostrophing?
[06:33] <agent_white> Guest71365: If you sound-out/say out loud the first version, it's shorter.
[06:33] <agent_white> "eevnin"
[06:34] <agent_white> Guest71365: So the point? No point other than my preference. :)
[06:34]  * agent_white lives among the cows and the horses
[06:40] <Guest71365> apt-get --purge autoremove should clean files after apt-get autoremove?
[06:41] <adoniscik> help me delete my old kernels! I've tried various suggestions I found on the web, but they all failed. This is the error message from ubuntu tweak: http://pastebin.com/XGfYLKJy
[06:41] <Guest71365> OK, I find a way
[06:41] <Guest71365> dpkg --purge $(dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | cut -f1)
[06:41] <Guest71365> what will you say ? :)
[06:46] <agent_white> adoniscik: What command did you run to get that error message?
[06:47] <adoniscik> thank you, agent_white : remove all old kernels using ubuntu tweak. I also get it  in apt-get
[06:47] <agent_white> adoniscik: Don't use ubuntu tweak. Do it manually.
[06:47] <adoniscik> it was recommended here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[06:47] <agent_white> ^
[06:48] <agent_white> adoniscik: It was, though don't go to ubuntu-tweak.
[06:48] <agent_white> Use synaptic, and also use the author's recommendation
[06:48] <agent_white> "My recommendation is to keep at least two or preferably three kernels including the latest."
[06:48] <th3_mol3> don't suppose anyone has managed to get Unigine Heaven benchmark to work?
[06:50] <adoniscik> agent_white, it failed with E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-69-generic_3.2.0-69.103_amd64.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[06:50] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Ask your issue. Not if anyone has had it :)
[06:50] <th3_mol3> just having problems installing it
[06:50] <th3_mol3> it's a .run file
[06:51] <HardCock> .
[06:51] <adoniscik> agent_white, it seems to want to instlal 69 too, since it'savailable
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[06:51] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Best way to explain it: attemp to install it, save the whole output of the failed install into pastebin.com or paste.pm.
[06:51] <unopaste> HardCock you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:52] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Only then can we know your issue. Logs explain errors better than people :)
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[06:52] <unopaste> HardCock2 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:52] <th3_mol3> it doesn't output anything though
[06:52] <helmut_> hi
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[06:52] <th3_mol3> tried selecting run as executable
[06:52] <unopaste> HardCock3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:52] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Then how do you know you're having an issue installing it?
[06:52] <HardCock4> FUCK
[06:52] <agent_white> If it doesn't say anything?
[06:53] <th3_mol3> it opens with gedit then doesn't do anything
[06:53] <HardCock4> WWW.YOUJIZZ.COM
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[06:53] <squinty> !ops
[06:54] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Wow, mistook adoniscik's error for yours. But they both apply. -- Explain what you expect, what you got, what you did, what it currently shows.
[06:54] <HardCock5> Fuck!
[06:54] <HardCock5> WWW.YOUJIZZ.COM
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[06:54] <HardCock5> WWW.YOUJIZZ.COM 05
[06:54] <HardCock5> WWW.YOUJIZZ.COM 06
[06:54] <unopaste> HardCock5 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[06:55] <agent_white> If you don't provide us with logs and how the issue was produced, we cannot reproduce it nor dissect it.
[06:55] <th3_mol3> well I guess I'm expecting it to execute as a program.. it opens with geddit but then doesn't do anything
[06:55] <th3_mol3> execute so I can install it
[06:56] <HardCock5> Fuck!
[06:56] <agent_white> th3_mol3: As in... what program? How did you get it? Did you try to install it or do anything else? How do you run it?
[06:56] <agent_white> th3_mol3: ..'if it opens gedit, what does it display if anything?' ... etc. :)
[06:56] <agent_white> Flannel: That's an odd... bot?
[06:56] <agent_white> :P
[06:56] <HardCock5> FUCK ME HARDER!
[06:57] <Flannel> +b *!DeadManWa@*
[06:57] <Flannel> meh
[06:57] <agent_white> I guess not everyone has ration things to do on the weekend.
[06:57] <agent_white> s/ration/rational/
[06:57] <HardCock5> HARDER!!!!!!!!!!
[07:00] <hardcock6> MOREEEEEEEEE
[07:01] <stevendumani> Hi, I'm trying to share internet connection wifi0 to eth0 (wired connection) which is connected directly to another computer. is there a simple way to do this using network manager? using (Routes)? Trusty 64 bit.
[07:04] <stevendumani> Please don't tell me to google because I didn't find what I'm looking for. the online guides are complicated and not straight to the point. I wanna understand what i'm doing, there should be a way using the Network Manager?
[07:07] <agent_white> stevendumani: So you have an ad-hoc connection between two machines (via... ethernet?...?), one machine has internet-access via wifi. You want both to have internet access through one's wifi?
[07:07] <BOBBY69> Hello.
[07:08] <agent_white> stevendumani: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/125639-howto-internet-connection-sharing-ubuntu-server-puppy-linux-client.html
[07:08] <stevendumani> yes agent_white exactly. but the ad-hoc connection is referred to as Wired connection 1 (by the network manager).
[07:08] <agent_white> stevendumani: You want to do "internet connection sharing on an ad-hoc, wired, network"
[07:08] <agent_white> But... that post should help :)
[07:09] <JamesDillon> How much do you charge?
[07:09] <stevendumani> agent_white Thank you!
[07:09] <agent_white> stevendumani: I have no experience in doing this, but those are keywords you should use to figure out your issue. :)
[07:09] <agent_white> stevendumani: Of course!
[07:09] <JamesDillon> I need helpppp
[07:10] <agent_white> JamesDillon: I need money. Lets tradE!
[07:10] <JamesDillon> I keep getting this message... You are banned from this server- Joining ##unavailable-pircbots (2014/9/27 00.43)
[07:12] <th3_mol3> nevermind I got it working :)
[07:12] <th3_mol3> found a video on youtube
[07:12] <agent_white> JamesDillon: When doing... what? "/join ##unavailable-pircbots" ?
[07:12] <agent_white> th3_mol3: In case someone was 'listening', quick-and-dirty.... what was your issue, how did you solve it?
[07:12] <JamesDillon> Try this it is not working.   /join ##unavailable-pircbots
[07:13] <agent_white> It's always good to follow up, even if you didn't get any replys or solutions :)
[07:13] <OerHeks> JamesDillon, not something we can help you with, as that channel does not exist
[07:13] <th3_mol3> I followed this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj655s5Tsqw
[07:13] <bisu> how can i make indicator applets.. i mean like the wifi  or battery information using python?
[07:14] <th3_mol3> sudo ./Unigine_Heaven-4.0.run
[07:14] <th3_mol3> to extract it
[07:14] <JamesDillon> /join ##unavailable-pircbots
[07:15] <th3_mol3> then ./heaven
[07:15] <th3_mol3> to run it
[07:16] <agent_white> th3_mol3: :) Glad you figured it out!
[07:16] <JamesDillon> /join ##unavailable-pircbots
[07:16] <th3_mol3> what does the . do before / ?
 how can i make indicator applets.. i mean like the wifi  or battery information using python?
[07:17] <geirha> th3_mol3: ./ is a directory
[07:17] <agent_white> bisu: `upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0`
[07:17] <th3_mol3> I wonder why it didn't work before..
[07:18] <th3_mol3> maybe I was typing the wrong thing into terminal
[07:18] <geirha> th3_mol3: If you just do  "cmd", bash will search through all the directories of $PATH until it finds a file named cmd, then execute that
[07:18] <agent_white> bisu: That's so you can check power status via terminal. From there you should have enough info to monitor/display battery status in python.
[07:18] <EriC^^> th3_mol3: the ./ will tell it to search the current directory for the executable and execute it
[07:18] <geirha> th3_mol3: If you do ./cmd  you're saying you want to run cmd in the directory ./ (which is the current directory) and it will not bother to look through $PATH at all
[07:18] <bisu> agent_white: i want to write my own indicatir applet. what library do i have to use? (Python)
[07:18] <EriC^^> ( instead of searching for it in the PATH directories )
[07:19] <agent_white> bisu: That's your choice!  If you want terminal-based, GTK-based, etc.
[07:19] <th3_mol3> ic
[07:19] <agent_white> bisu: You don't HAVE to use any, you just have to choose!
[07:20] <bisu> agent_white: thank you sir. Can you give me any clue how can i use PyGobject to show app indicator for my app?
[07:21] <agent_white> bisu: Unforunately I cannot! I don't write python but ruby instead. I think "to show app indicator" is less relevant than just learning first how to make your box, show it, and update it.
[07:21] <agent_white> Learn how to deal with dynamic infomation in your app.
[07:22] <agent_white> th3_mol3: Then soon, you'll see not all programs can be executed via `./` unless they have certain permissions.
[07:23] <agent_white> (ie - `./myRubyProgram.rb` -vs- `ruby ./myRubyProgram.rb`
[07:23] <bisu> agent_white: i can display the informations through the notification bubbles, now i want to somehow display an indicator applet to allow users to turn off the notifications. I hope you get it. I am stuck at how do i make the indicator applets?
[07:23] <agent_white> bisu: That is a program you should ask in #python
[07:23] <agent_white> s/program/problem/ :P
[07:23] <bisu> agent_white: ok thanks :)
[07:24] <agent_white> \o
[07:25] <OerHeks> uhoh
[07:29] <agent_white> OerHeks: Spaghetti-O's?
[07:31] <sennn_> hello
[07:42] <superkuh> Anyone know where apport stores it's config files?
[07:43] <stevendumani> I think I need to ask again. is there a way to set internet connection sharing using network manager? without involving setting up dnsmasq or firestarter? I'm using trusty.
[07:43] <superkuh> Nevermind. They were in the reasonable spot, /etc/apport
[07:44] <crlcna81> I'm attempting to resize my windows partition via gparted, I've done this before, but what I can't figure out is how to expand my Ubuntu partition into the unallocated space made when I rezsize Windows Xp.
[07:44] <squinty> superkuh:  /etc/init/apport.conf   too here
[07:45] <superkuh> Thanks squinty.
[07:47] <crlcna81> Can anyone help me with Gparted and windows partition?
[07:48] <crlcna81> Does anyone here have any gparted experience?
[07:49] <EriC^^> crlcna81: how much space are you reallocating
[07:49] <crlcna81> 165 gigs.
[07:50] <crlcna81> I'm attempting to split my partition in half, instead of the 1/3rd 2/3rds partition it currently is.
[07:50] <ax562> burn gparted iso to disk or use ubuntu live disc
[07:51] <crlcna81> That's what I"m using
[07:51] <crlcna81> Ubuntu 14.04 live disk
[07:51] <crlcna81> yet for some reason it says the thing is mounted right now.
[07:51] <virta___> i have latest Lubuntu installed and i can't get my mobile broad band to work. dmesg says ttyUSB0 is ready, but is the problem now with Network Manager?
[07:51] <ax562> gparted disk would not work for me to resize windows only ubuntu live disk worked
[07:51] <EriC^^> crlcna81: did you resize the windows partition?
[07:51] <crlcna81> That's what I've just started.
[07:52] <EriC^^> it's resizing right now?
[07:52] <crlcna81> yes
[07:52] <EriC^^> ok
[07:52] <crlcna81> it's just doing the back and forth progress bar, not doing anything :(
[07:52] <EriC^^> it might take a while
[07:52] <crlcna81> it's running the simulation.
[07:52] <crlcna81> it didn't take that long last time.
[07:53] <crlcna81> gaah, why's it taking so long :(
[07:54] <EriC^^> open a terminal and type df
[07:54] <EriC^^> to get an idea if it's mounted or not
[07:55] <crlcna81> what should I see if it's mounted, the /sda that it is?
[07:55] <EriC^^> yeah /dev/sdxY
[07:55] <crlcna81> I don't see it.
[07:55] <crlcna81> So it's not mounted then?
[07:55] <EriC^^> i dont think so
[07:56] <crlcna81> It better not be, whole point of using gparted on live disk is so it wouldn't be mounted when I did it.
[07:56] <crlcna81> I know you can't easily partition mounted disks, at least not on Ubuntu 14.04 I've not been able to.
[07:56] <crlcna81> I don't know super advanced commands though.
[07:56] <crlcna81> I just know some googlefu.
[07:56] <crlcna81> So what can I play while I wait?
[07:57] <EriC^^> well not much i guess
[07:57] <crlcna81> yah no flash on here right now.
[07:57] <crlcna81> Though I could load flash into memory couldn't I?
[07:57] <EriC^^> you could install it if you wanted
[07:58] <EriC^^> how long has gparted been working at it
[07:58] <crlcna81> I don't remember the exact command to install flash, give me a sec to look it up.
[07:58] <crlcna81> 10 seconds.
[07:59] <virta___> or maybe lubuntu doesn't know how to switch my mobile broadband to modem? it can only see the storage?
[08:00] <virta___> i have latest, basic lubuntu. so there is usb-modemswitch included
[08:00] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who actually booted ubuntu on an old macbook 2,1?
[08:01] <crlcna81> How long should it realistically take for a 699 or so gig partition to be resized to 560 or so?
[08:01] <EriC^^> crlcna81: read the gparted part, and about rebooting after shrinking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
[08:01] <rww> depends on whether it's taking space from the left or the right
[08:01] <crlcna81> right
[08:02] <crlcna81> windows was my first OS
[08:02] <crlcna81> XP
[08:02] <crlcna81> I had it partition to the right of XP
[08:02] <rww> and if the answer is "from the left", depends on how much data is on the filesystem and the I/O speed of the device it lives on
[08:02] <rww> but in general, "a while"
[08:03] <crlcna81> ..can someone please remind me of the flash install command in terminal?
[08:03] <EriC^^> !flash | crlcna81
[08:04] <EriC^^> crlcna81: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[08:05] <crlcna81> it says unable to find
[08:05] <crlcna81> Figured out why, source wasn't enabled yet.
[08:05] <crlcna81> duurrrr, stupid me.
[08:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[08:06] <crlcna81> feels weird installing while using a live CD
[08:11] <crlcna81> screw it, it's taking to long, I'll just keep it as is
[08:11] <crlcna81> I'll do it later.
[08:12] <asher1> Hello
[08:13] <asher1> if i download teamviewer how i movide this to root?
[08:23] <jarnos> What do you use as replacement of "aptitude search" and "aptitude show" in default Ubuntu installation?
[08:24] <nevermoreraven> apt-cache search jarnos
[08:25] <nevermoreraven> apt-cache show jarnos
[08:25] <virta___> my mobile broadband modem is blinking blue light
[08:26] <virta___> but network manager can't see the modem
[08:26] <xvzf> hi there I am faced with an ubuntu 12.0x and cannot do an apt-get update. Some page suggested to remove PPA repositories but I do not see such in /etc/apt/sources.list. I see a lot of Ign messages on update and not found and failed to fetch. What shall I do?
[08:27] <nevermoreraven> did you check also /etc/apt/.d/?
[08:27] <OerHeks> xvzf, disable those PPA's in softwarecenter > sources, but then you can end up with issues, better remove them wit ppa-purge
[08:28] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[08:30] <xvzf> OerHeks: I cannot install anything now. apt-get says Unable to fetch and Err and failed to fetch
[08:31] <OerHeks> xvzf, then try to disable them first
[08:32] <xvzf> OerHeks: I am an avid centos user, am no expert on Ubuntu, sorry for being dumb, how can I do that?
[08:32] <old_penguin> Hi, has anyone installed the MFC-7440n printer on Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:32] <OerHeks> xvzf, softwarecenter > edit > sources
[08:36] <xvzf> OerHeks: my Lubuntu software center does not have an edit button. How could I do this on the command line?
[08:37] <xvzf> I do not see ppa repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:38] <OerHeks> PPA's are not in the sourceslist anymore, they have their own instance in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:38] <OerHeks> remove it with sudo apt-add-repository -r ppa:Name_of_ppa
[08:38] <OerHeks> or ppa-puge etc
[08:40] <SDr>  hi there, spamreport: "YoLtA is YoLtA@AMontpellier-156-1-130-87.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr "  is using (most probably) #ubuntu to send unasked spam messages: http://pastebin.com/fUYifDdY
[08:41] <xvzf>   There is nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d . my sources list and the output of apt-get update is here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8438984/
[08:45] <bipin> hello any one knows how to get Ip address inside monit tool
[08:45] <earthbounding> can't get flash games to work "plugin is needed"
[08:45]  * earthbounding shakes stick at adobe
[08:55] <jarnos> nevermoreraven, thanks, but what is a replacement of restricting to installed packages, say "aptitude search ubuntu|grep ^i"?
[09:00] <EriC^^> jarnos: can you rephrase>
[09:03] <jarnos> EriC^^, aptitude is not installed by default. So I was wondering, how would you search installed packages whose name contain certain string without aptitude?
[09:04] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | grep <package>
[09:05] <earthbounding> flash is broken
[09:07] <EriC^^> ( @ jarnos )
[09:07] <OerHeks> earthbounding, flash broken, you would like to play a flash game ? @ facebook?
[09:08] <earthbounding> apt-get moo
[09:10] <earthbounding> nope, flash games wont load, and i dont want to use anything from microsoft or google
[09:10] <jarnos> EriC^^, no, it does not work e.g. for "ubuntu": "dpkg -l | grep ubuntu" shows way too many packages.
[09:11] <OerHeks> flashgames work fine here in chrome .. oh, google-chrome
[09:11] <EriC^^> jarnos: try dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' | grep ubuntu
[09:14] <EriC^^> jarnos: this is better dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /^ubuntu/'
[09:17] <jarnos> EriC^^, seems pretty cryptic, but seems to work.
[09:17] <EriC^^> it searches only the second column for stuff that start with ubuntu
[09:19] <nevermoreraven> what are some good movies?
[09:20] <OerHeks> nevermoreraven, that is beyond the scope of this channel, join #ubuntu-offopic
[09:20] <cfhowlett> nevermoreraven, wrong channel
[09:20] <OerHeks> or#whataregoodmovies
[09:21] <ObrienDave> lol
[09:22] <jarnos> EriC^^, oh, then it is not the same. "aptitude search ubuntu" searches all packages whose name _contain_ "ubuntu". But I guess this does the trick: dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /ubuntu/'
[09:23] <efe> I used photorec to recover wiped out files in my hdd. Thank you all for your helps
[09:24] <Linnak> Hi, which program can mcreate an ISO image from my ubuntu partition?
[09:24] <EriC^^> jarnos: yup, that would do it
[09:25] <jarnos> EriC^^, nevermoreraven Though, I wish "apt-cache search --names-only --installed <string>" would work.
[09:25] <OerHeks> clonezilla can, partimage too Linnak
[09:25] <ObrienDave> k3b can, iirc
[09:26] <Linnak> OerHeks: Thank you
[09:26] <nevermoreraven> what about brasero?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> nevermoreraven, will not create a bootable .iso
[09:26] <cfhowlett> from a partition
[09:27] <ObrienDave> oh, bootable, not sure if k3b can do it
[09:28] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, I read his query as "can I make a custom ubuntu .iso?"
[09:28] <ObrienDave> i read it as a file archive
[09:28] <cfhowlett> Linnak, "reconstructor"    might do that
[09:29] <Linnak> cfhowlett: Is that still active project?
[09:29] <cfhowlett> Linnak, so far as i know.  the preferred program "remastersync" was abandonwared earlier this year.
[09:29] <Linnak> cfhowlett: You mean remastersys?
[09:29] <ObrienDave> although, clonezilla would make an ISO image
[09:30] <cfhowlett> Linnak, exactomundo!  reconstructor is supposed to be "similar"
[09:30] <Linnak> Clonezilla and partimage are good if there isn't a gui solution instead them
[09:30] <ObrienDave> clonezilla live would be the way to go
[09:33] <Linnak> what kind of image does redo make?
[09:52] <Castbound> hello, I am trying to upgrade bash but getting this error:
[09:52] <Castbound> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric-security/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.15 80]
[09:52] <Castbound> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:52] <Castbound> can you help me?
[09:52] <ObrienDave> !oneiric
[09:53] <ObrienDave> you need to upgrade to a supported release
[09:53] <Castbound> dist-upgrade is my only option?
[09:53] <ObrienDave> dist-upgrade won't help you
[09:53] <Castbound> it is a server, possible upgrade without reimage?
[09:54] <ObrienDave> ask in #ubuntu-server
[09:54] <k1l> !eol | Castbound this got links to how to upgrade
[09:55] <k1l> Castbound: you need to at least update to 12.04
[09:55] <Castbound> thank  you guys
[10:00] <Linnak> I'm in a 3 days work and I still don't have solution. I'd like to remaster my whole system with all my installed applications and setting and create a bootable LiveUSB from that. Bur my system is in virtualbox.
[10:03] <ryao> jaksi: Compiling it has always been easiest for me.
[10:03] <ryao> [6~[6~[6~I was scrolled yup.
[10:05] <bekks> Linnak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[10:06] <Linnak> I have read thet and i've tried as well, it doesn't put my apps in the iso file and a set the language at the beginning and din't even use that language which I set.
[10:08] <Linnak> all the tutorials are old: relinux, reconstructor, remastersys..... the are dead. in 2014 i thing there is no solution for 14.04 LTS
[10:10] <milad1512> how do i get a list for startup programs in terminal ?
[10:12] <bekks> Linnak: http://system-imaging.blogspot.com.es/
[10:12] <Linnak> It will be good from october 15
[10:13] <Linnak> but thanks I read it yesterday as well. I read everithing in this theme
[10:13] <jere_> I have just plugged my usb keyboard in my Ubuntu machine. It works. But is there a way I can know where it is loaded in /dev/ ?
[10:13] <bekks> Linnak: Then use the current version, 1.4 - please read the whole page, not just the first sentence.
[10:13] <Linnak> I read that 1.5 will handle 12.04 I thought 1.4 won't.
[10:14] <Linnak> 14.04 sorry
[10:14] <bekks> Linnak: Please read the page. For 1.4 it says: "Initial Ubuntu 14.10 support".
[10:14] <Linnak> Yes i've just did. sorry and thank again
[10:14] <bekks> Linnak: So it can be safely assumed that 1.4 supports 14.04 already.
[10:15] <Linnak> http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4systemimage/ here is the download page but I can't find the package
[10:16] <jere_> I have just plugged my usb keyboard in my Ubuntu machine. It works. But is there a way I can know where it is loaded in /dev/ ?
[10:17] <milad1512> what's the command to show startup programs ?
[10:20] <milad1512> There is none ?
[10:23] <milad1512> anyone knows how to open startup applications in terminal ubuntu ?
[10:24] <k1l> milad1512: what do you want to do in the first place?
[10:24] <z3rocool> startup app in search
[10:25] <milad1512> k1l: i want to prevent and application from starting up when ubuntu srating
[10:25] <z3rocool> @milad there is google you know http://www.howtogeek.com/192104/how-to-showhide-all-hidden-startup-applications-in-ubuntu-14.10/
[10:25] <k1l> milad1512: which ubuntu exactly and which desktop?
[10:26] <milad1512> k1l: 14.04.01, and what do you mean by which desktop ?
[10:26] <k1l> milad1512: unity, kde, xfce,.....
[10:27] <jarnos> EriC^^,  how would you include it in a script so that you give the search string as a command line argument?
[10:28] <milad1512> k1l: sorry , how can i find that out ?
[10:28] <k1l> milad1512: is that a standard ubuntu? then its unity
[10:29] <k1l> milad1512: see this album to compare the desktops: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ
[10:31] <EriC^^> jarnos: elaborate on what you mean
[10:32] <vitimiti> hi
[10:33] <nevermoreraven> how do I secure ubuntu?
[10:34] <jarnos> EriC^^, I want to write a script that takes the search string as a command line argument, e.g. in this case ubuntu: dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /ubuntu/'
[10:34] <k1l> nevermoreraven: can you rephrase?
[10:35] <jarnos> EriC^^,  this does not work: s=$1; dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /$s/'
[10:35] <nevermoreraven> how do I use apparmor? k1l
[10:35] <cfhowlett> !apparmor | nevermoreraven
[10:38] <chris_> maybe someone can answer my question: when starting a new application it writes the own config files in my home dir. what if there is no power in that moment and pc is off but the application for example QGIS has already write 10 config files out of 20. or can be one config file corrupt. the more interesting question ... what if this situation happens while a updated security app runs the first time. i hope u understand my question
[10:38] <cfhowlett> chris_, read it twice and I don't understand ...
[10:38] <EriC^^> jarnos: try dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /'$@'/'
[10:39] <EriC^^> jarnos: that'll use the whole arguments, modify it for just the second argument
[10:39] <k1l> milad1512: support please only in this channel
[10:39] <chris_> when u start an app the first time it writes config files in home dir (.config)
[10:40] <k1l> milad1512: user startups are in :".config/autostart/"   general startups are in "/etc/xdg/autostart/"
[10:40] <cfhowlett> chris_, correct.
[10:40] <chris_> what when the app is killed in that moment
[10:40] <k1l> it will write the next time its started?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> chris_, restart = reconfigure
[10:41] <z3rocool> clear
[10:41] <z3rocool> ops wrong window lol
[10:41] <chris_> so just shutdown and start the app new and no need to del the config-dir?
[10:42] <cfhowlett> chris_, do not delete configs
[10:42] <chris_> so u mean with restart just open the app again
[10:43] <cfhowlett> chris_, yes
[10:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:44] <milad1512> k1l: where is this ".config/autostart/ "
[10:44] <k1l> milad1512: in you users home directory
[10:44] <k1l> ~/.config/autostart
[10:46] <milad1512> k1l: there is none
[10:46] <milad1512> cd
[10:47] <milad1512> k1l, i found the ".config" but i don't see autostart. but there is upstart
[10:48] <milad1512> k1l , is that it ?
[10:49] <michele_> help o have kworker process always on top
[10:49] <alperen> hey, I have Xubuntu installed but I don't like the way xfce looks, is there a way to make look like #
[10:49] <alperen> gnome
[10:49] <cfhowlett> alperen, why not just install gnome?
[10:49] <michele_> I have kworker how to remove
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !gnome
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !info kworker
[10:50] <alperen> cfhowlett or that, how do i that ?
[10:50] <k1l> milad1512: stop. this doesnt seem to work, so please tell me what app do you want to stop from autostart?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> alperen, should be sudo apt-get install gnome-shell                      then logout, choose gnome, login
[10:51] <jarnos> EriC^^, it works only with single argument, like $1
[10:51] <michele_> ubottu it consume 20% of my cpu
[10:51] <milad1512> k1l : kerio-control-vpnclient
[10:52] <EriC^^> jarnos: in your example use dpkg -l | awk '$2 ~ /'$s'/'
[10:52] <k1l> milad1512: ok, so we make another attempt: please install the package "pastebinit". you can use "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[10:53] <milad1512> k1l: i did, what's next ?
[10:53] <jarnos> EriC^^, yes, but what if you want to search for multiple strings, like in your example?
[10:53] <EriC^^> michele_: kworker is still consuming?
[10:53] <michele_> yes
[10:54] <k1l> "ls -al ~/.config/autostart | pastebinit"
[10:54] <EriC^^> michele_: did you try grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts
[10:54] <EriC^^> did you try any guide that mentioned that?
[10:54] <k1l> then "ls -al /etc/xdg/autostart/ | pastebinit" and show the to links in here
[10:54] <michele_> i don't understan
[10:54] <michele_> the guide
[10:54] <k1l> michele_: i linked a tutorial yesterday for your issue. did that work?
[10:55] <michele_> i don't understand the guide
[10:55] <EriC^^> jarnos: to do multiple searches i guess you have to use a loop, for i in $@; do dpkg -l ...;done
[10:55] <k1l> what exactly dont you understand?
[10:55] <michele_> then when i paste this grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts
[10:55] <michele_> what i do?
[10:56] <EriC^^> you should find which one is very high
[10:56] <EriC^^> and disable it
[10:56] <michele_> now i screen because i don't know what is
[10:56] <EriC^^> ok
[10:57] <michele_> http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77776
[10:58] <michele_> http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77777
[10:58] <k1l> michele_: gpe06 is the one that is too high
[10:59] <EriC^^> michele_: ok, gpe06 most likely is the culprit
[10:59] <michele_> how to remove?
[11:00] <EriC^^> open root' crontab
[11:00] <EriC^^> sudo su
[11:00] <EriC^^> then crontab -e
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> or simply sudo crontab -e
[11:00] <michele_> ok
[11:00] <michele_> now?
[11:00] <michele_> 1 2 or 3?
[11:01] <EriC^^> or that ^^^
[11:01] <michele_> ed nano or bin/vim.tiny
[11:01] <EriC^^> nano
[11:01] <michele_> ok
[11:02] <michele_> http://pastebin.com/GwF2tdMm
[11:02] <EriC^^> ok paste this ther
[11:02] <EriC^^> @reboot echo "disable" > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe06
[11:03] <michele_> http://pastebin.com/tRjUZUCm
[11:03] <michele_> ok?
[11:04] <EriC^^> ok press ctrl+o
[11:04] <EriC^^> save it
[11:04] <EriC^^> and then ctrl+x to exit
[11:04] <michele_> ok
[11:04] <michele_> crontab: installing new crontab
[11:05] <michele_> now?
[11:05] <EriC^^> if you want, from the root shell try
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> seen trough the eyes of beginners, things look more scary than they are
[11:06] <EriC^^> echo "disable" > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe06
[11:06] <EriC^^> i guess we should have tried that first to see if it works :D
[11:06] <michele_> yes it disabled
[11:06] <michele_> yessss it worked!
[11:07] <EriC^^> ok cool
[11:07] <michele_> thanks a lot
[11:07] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:07] <michele_> it's pemanently?
[11:07] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:07] <michele_> ty
[11:07] <EriC^^> if you want it to work after suspend you have to add something though
[11:07] <michele_> what?
[11:08] <EriC^^> hold on
[11:09] <michele_> i wait
[11:09] <michele_> :D
[11:10] <EriC^^> michele_: type sudo nano /etc/pm/sleep.d/30_disable_gpe06
[11:10] <jarnos> EriC^^, maybe, but it may print same line multiple times unlike "aptitude search $@".
[11:11] <EriC^^> then paste this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8439737/
[11:12] <milad1512> k1l : now what do i do with pastebinit ?
[11:12] <k1l> milad1512: i explained 20 minutes ago.
[11:12] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:12] <michele_> now?
[11:12] <michele_> save?
[11:13] <EriC^^> yup
[11:13] <michele_> ok
[11:13] <EriC^^> then sudo chmod +x /etc/pm/sleep.d/30_disable_gpe06
[11:14] <michele_> don't appear nothing
[11:14] <EriC^^> it's ok
[11:14] <EriC^^> that's all
[11:14] <k1l> !pm | milad1512
[11:14] <michele_> ok
[11:14] <michele_> ty
[11:14] <EriC^^> np
[11:14] <michele_> good bye
[11:14] <k1l> milad1512: <k1l> "ls -al ~/.config/autostart | pastebinit" <k1l> then "ls -al /etc/xdg/autostart/ | pastebinit" and show the to links in here
[11:14] <EriC^^> goodbye
[11:14] <jarnos> EriC^^, and calls dpkg multiple times
[11:15] <k1l> milad1512: please read the chat when you want to people help you
[11:15] <michele_> eric are you online?
[11:16] <michele_> i have another ask
[11:16] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:16] <michele_> why when i restart my laptop the luminosity change to defaul? (MAX)
[11:16] <EriC^^> whats up?
[11:17] <Ice_Strike> When I do this command: sudo apt-get install libpar2-dev
[11:17] <Ice_Strike> I get error
[11:17] <Ice_Strike> E: Unable to locate package libpar2-dev
[11:17] <EriC^^> michele_: no idea, but you could make a work around if you wanted
[11:17] <k1l> !find libpar2-dev
[11:17] <michele_> ok
[11:17] <k1l> Ice_Strike: which ubuntu are you on?
[11:19] <EriC^^> michele_: if you want let me know
[11:19] <Ice_Strike> k1l 12
[11:19] <michele_> i want
[11:19] <Ice_Strike> how can I upgrade to 14?
[11:19] <michele_> xD
[11:19] <bekks> Ice_Strike: 12.04 or 12.10?
[11:19] <k1l> Ice_Strike: 12.??  there are 2 releases a  year. so what 12.?? exactly?
[11:19] <k1l> Ice_Strike: lsb_release -d
[11:20] <EriC^^> ok open a root shell ( this case it's necessary usually sudo is ok )
[11:20] <EriC^^> sudo su
[11:20] <Ice_Strike> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[11:20] <bekks> EriC^^: sudo su is a bad ways. Use sudo -s or sudo -i
[11:20] <michele_> yes i know
[11:20] <EriC^^> ok, sudo -i then
[11:20] <k1l> Ice_Strike: "sudo do-release-upgrade" will bring you to 14.04
[11:20] <Ice_Strike> I will do
[11:20] <Ice_Strike> thanks bro
[11:21] <michele_> ok
[11:21] <Ice_Strike> What the major difference between 12 and 14?
[11:21] <k1l> Ice_Strike: new kernel, new program versions,...
[11:21] <EriC^^> type cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[11:21] <EriC^^> it should give you a number
[11:21] <michele_> 10
[11:22] <luc4> Anyone able to run the usb live on the macbook?
[11:22] <EriC^^> ok
[11:22] <EriC^^> try echo 4 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:22] <EriC^^> see the brightness you want
[11:22] <michele_> now it's setted mox
[11:23] <EriC^^> try 2
[11:23] <michele_> when i typed this echo 4 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness the luminosity has became high
[11:24] <michele_> echo 2 it's better
[11:24] <EriC^^> michele_: if you want try this
[11:24] <EriC^^> i think this is better
[11:25] <EriC^^> cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[11:25] <EriC^^> it should give a higher number
[11:25] <michele_> 4882
[11:25] <EriC^^> ok
[11:26] <EriC^^> try echo 1000 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[11:27] <michele_> it's increase!
[11:27] <michele_> echo 2 it's better xD
[11:27] <EriC^^> try echo 970
[11:28] <EriC^^> that should give around the same, if it's linear
[11:28] <EriC^^> play around with it until you like the brightness
[11:28] <EriC^^> 900, etc
[11:28] <jarnos> bug 1374716
[11:28] <michele_> don't change
[11:28] <EriC^^> mm 800?
[11:28] <michele_> 900 yes
[11:29] <EriC^^> ok
[11:29] <michele_> also 800
[11:29] <michele_> decrease xD
[11:29] <michele_> wow decrease always
[11:30] <michele_> when i restart ?
[11:30] <EriC^^> ok
[11:30] <EriC^^> type nano /etc/rc.local
[11:31] <EriC^^> and paste echo ........ brightness
[11:31] <EriC^^> ( put it before exit 0 )
[11:32] <michele_> ok
[11:32] <bekks> jarnos: dpkg -l | grep searchterm
[11:33] <michele_> http://www.pasteall.org/54219
[11:33] <michele_> save and exit?
[11:34] <EriC^^> yup
[11:34] <k1l> milad1512: i told you twice now how to proceed. no need to tell me in pm how i should support in this channel. if you would keep track of this channel when asking a question you could be easily been done already with that issue. good luck with your issue.
[11:34] <swapnesh> Hello ...I need some help with ethernet connection
[11:35] <michele_> finish?
[11:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:35] <swapnesh> I pasted my query here but no response http://askubuntu.com/questions/529211/ethernet-connection-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts
[11:35] <michele_> now i try to restart
[11:35] <EriC^^> ok
[11:35] <michele_> see you later
[11:35] <swapnesh> let me know what I am missing
[11:36] <milad1512> k1l: sorry, i didn't mean to offend you.
[11:37] <swapnesh> I tried most of the things I found on google but still unable to locate
[11:37] <michele_> no eric
[11:37] <michele_> the luminosity it setted in max
[11:37] <michele_> when i restart
[11:37] <swapnesh> any help with the topic ??
[11:37] <EriC^^> hmm
[11:38] <Alpy> hello there, is it normal that when i restart my computer, it takes me to my usual GUI (xfce) but to a command prompt
[11:38] <Alpy> ?
[11:39] <cfhowlett> Alpy, no not normal
[11:39] <swapnesh> is it a problem of 14.04 as i never faced problem with my older ubuntu 13.04
[11:40] <swapnesh> anyone ?? what else I can try to sort out the problem ??
[11:40] <Mitsos101> How can I view the underlying filesystems in aufs?
[11:41] <bekks> Mitsos101: By looking at the source mountpoints.
[11:42] <EriC^^> michele_: try to add also the acpi_video0
[11:42] <EriC^^> echo 2 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:43] <michele_> change to high
[11:43] <EriC^^> maybe echo 1 ?
[11:44] <michele_> i try echo 0
[11:44] <michele_> yea
[11:44] <swapnesh> any help ???
[11:44] <michele_> echo 0 it's good
[11:44] <EriC^^> ok, try to add that
[11:45] <michele_> how to add
[11:46] <EriC^^> nano /etc/rc.local
[11:46] <swapnesh> I am currently using my mobile internet ..which is working correctly ..but not ethernet
[11:46] <michele_> there is nothing in this file
[11:47] <EriC^^> it can't be
[11:47] <EriC^^> :P
[11:47] <swapnesh> Please let me know what else I can do to sort out my problem
[11:48] <michele_> look http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77778
[11:48] <michele_> save and ecit?
[11:48] <michele_> exit*
[11:49] <EriC^^> you've written /ect/rc.local
[11:49] <EriC^^> :p
[11:49] <michele_> i'm sorry
[11:50] <EriC^^> no worries
[11:50] <michele_> ok
[11:50] <michele_> restart?
[11:50] <EriC^^> yup
[11:50] <michele_> see you later another time xD
[11:50] <EriC^^> hehe ok
[11:52] <swapnesh> any help ?? :(
[11:52] <michele_> no eric, but now i go to eat
[11:52] <michele_> see you later
[11:53] <michele_> thanks
[11:56] <swapnesh> any help ??  i am still looking for some with the topic
[11:58] <jarnos> EriC^^, I think this is what I was looking for: apt-cache search --names-only $@ | awk '{ print $1 }' | xargs dpkg -l 2>/dev/null  ; it prints package names that are installed and contain all of the strings in $@ ;  "aptitude search $@ | grep ^i" prints installed packages whose name contain any of the strings in $@.
[12:01] <z3rocool> Is there a fix for reaver/wash on ubuntu 14.04 yet
[12:02] <swapnesh> is there any one to help with my ethernet connection ?////
[12:03] <pd921> @swapnesh whats the issue ?
[12:04] <swapnesh> pd921 I asked here too not no response http://askubuntu.com/questions/529211/ethernet-connection-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-1-lts
[12:05] <swapnesh> Its showing the "Connection Established" message but not working though
[12:06] <rlinx> How does the  psa
[12:06] <pd921> Can you point out the issue from the output of ---  <ip link> and <ip addr> ?
[12:06] <rlinx> How does paste to work?
[12:08] <swapnesh> pd921 sorry not getting this part - <ip link> and <ip addr> ?
[12:10] <pd921> what are the output of the following commands..are they normal or is there any issue /$ip link  and $ip addr
[12:11] <Thumpxr> hey. can anyone tell me how i can enable 144Hz output on an AMD 7970HD in 14.04 ?
[12:12] <pyoor> hi all - trying to patch shellshock on an ubuntu 14.04 box.  After upgrading, bash still reports 4.3.11. Any idea why?
[12:13] <somsip> pyoor: that doesn't sound like an official package. How did you install it?
[12:13] <k1l> pyoor: just run the updates. ubuntu did patch bash already
[12:13] <k1l> !usn | pyoor see this for more info
[12:14] <pyoor> all - did apt-get update; apt-get distupgrade
[12:14] <pyoor> updated, reboot, current version is 4.3.11 and no new patches available
[12:14] <somsip> !bash | pyoor (this is the official version - 4.3.11 is newer than this, so where did you get it from)
[12:14] <cfhowlett> pyoor, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:14] <k1l> pyoor: "apt-cache policy bash"
[12:15] <somsip> !info bash | pyoor
[12:15] <swapnesh> @pd921 following is the result http://i.imgur.com/JJdbiQa.png
[12:16] <pyoor> somsip: so 4.3.7ubuntu 1.3 is latest?
[12:16] <somsip> pyoor: from the official repos yes. So is there any chance you've used a PPA to get 4.3.11?
[12:17] <somsip> pyoor: (though 1.4 is now the latest)
[12:17] <pyoor> http://pastebin.com/Zqtf4Hgg
[12:17] <swapnesh> @pd921 sorry ..this one is more clear http://imgur.com/X6VZItE.png
[12:17] <somsip> pyoor: so where did you get 4.3.11 from? It looks like you're up to date
[12:17] <k1l> pyoor: you are mixing a lot of stuff there. first: ubuntu did patch all ubuntu bash versions with all known security patches offered from the bash team. so if you run the updates you already have all patched bash version.
[12:18] <k1l> pyoor: and to patch bash doesnt mean it gets from 4.3.7 to 4.3.11. it does mean the "old" version gets made secure with that patch
[12:19] <tsm91> Helo, i have serious issues connecting to pptp vpn on 14.04, http://askubuntu.com/questions/528058/pptp-vpn-connect-fail
[12:20] <tsm91> i need to fix something but i am not able to connect to the company vpn :S
[12:22] <jishjish> hi all - i'm just learning linux terminal commands, and I want to find all files or folders on my portable drive at /media/josh/JSERRYB1TB/ that contain glen. I'm not sure if I can use the FIND command or GREP or either to find files and directories which contain the word "glen" -- don't care about case. Can anyone give me some advice? So far I hav
[12:22] <jishjish> e tried josh@JOSHUA-PC:/media/josh/JSERRYB1TB$ find . -name "*glen*.*" but it returns nothing. I know for a fact there is atleast one directory called "glen" there may also be multiple files.
[12:22] <somsip> jishjish: grep -nir glen /media/josh/JSERRYB1TB
[12:23] <somsip> jishjish: hang on - the filename or folder name contains 'glen' or the contents of the file contains glen?
[12:23] <swapnesh> @pd921 any thing missing ??
[12:23] <jishjish> somsip: file or folder name* sorry
[12:23] <somsip> jignore my suggestion then
[12:23] <jishjish> somsip: also, why did you choose grep over find?
[12:24] <jishjish> somsip: your suggestion will search for "glen" within any file on that portable hard drive is that right?
[12:25] <user__> ciao
[12:30] <lesshaste> I have applied the bash patch but I still see the word busted when I dp
[12:31] <lesshaste> env X="() { :;} ; echo busted" `which bash` -c "echo completed"
[12:31] <lesshaste> what's going on?
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  just read: the patch is leaving some holes, i'm sure the coders and technicians are working on it
[12:32] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, oh!
[12:32] <swapnesh> any help???
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  just follow some linux blogs to stay up to date
[12:33] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust,  can you recommend one?
[12:33] <destra>  hello, i have a problem to load debian it says no device found <UUID> and go to shell but after that it freeze and i can't type in shell, i tried to reinstall grub from ubuntu live cd (in chroot)
[12:33] <cfhowlett> destra, ask #debian for debian support
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  lxer.com, omgubuntu, there are zillions
[12:34] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, looks like today's bash release actually fixed it
[12:34] <lesshaste> everyone should sudo apt-get update now
[12:35] <compdoc> hurray - we're safe!!
[12:36] <destra> cfhowlett, i think it's not related to distro
[12:36] <cfhowlett> destra, you're asking for debian support = support with debian distro.  ask #debian
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  that's good news then
[12:37] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, yes :)
[12:42] <crypto_guy> what is the best GUI firewall for a laptop?
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> crypto_guy  gufw and fwbuilder are popular
[12:49] <somsip> jishjish: yes (was afk)
[12:54] <Kriss|mobile> How do I get the normal bar at the top after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Kriss|mobile  "normal" in what sense?
[12:55] <sgtsaughter> Does anyone know of compatibility issues with the ASRock Z97 Extreme4 mother board and ubuntu?
[12:56] <Kriss|mobile> MonkeyDust: The bars on this picture http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases#/image/File:Screenshot_from_2014-04-25_21_06_50.png
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Kriss|mobile, if you're using 14.04 ubuntu with Unity desktop environment, there ARE no bars at the top by default.
[12:58] <z3rocool> Is there a fix for reaver/wash on ubuntu 14.04 yet
[12:58] <Kriss|mobile> How do I add them?
[13:00] <crypto_guy> MonkeyDust: now i use gufw, but it is so ugly in kubuntu
[13:02] <franco> !list
[13:03] <usr13> MonkeyDust: Is that gnome-desktop?
[13:05] <usr13> or gnome-shell...?
[13:05] <desiderio> hello
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> crypto_guy  1) i missed the kubuntu part, 2) a firewall is supposed to be safe, not beautiful and 3) try fwbuilder
[13:06] <Aghast> That looks like default unity
[13:06] <sgtsaughter> does anyone know if the ASUS Z87-Pro Motherboard is compatible with ubuntu 14.04
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> sgtsaughter  try a live dvd or usb to find out
[13:09] <sgtsaughter> MonkeyDust: yeah when ive tried to the live cd and i get a black screen with a blinking white curusor that eventually freezes after i click either 'try ubuntu' or 'install ubuntu', but im not sure if the reason is the motherboard
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | sgtsaughter start here
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> ah 'after' you click install ubuntu, then it's different
[13:10] <sgtsaughter> MonkeyDust: yeah i've tried nomodeset and the same thing happens ive also tried removing the graphics card and the same thing happens...ive tried multiple live cds and a live usb all do the same thing
[13:11] <sgtsaughter> MonkeyDust: I bought the computer to microcenter to see what they think...after trying everything they said it could be the monther board but im seeing if anyone has a second opinion....do these symptoms sound like a motherboard issue?
[13:11] <crypto_guy> MonkeyDust, thanks
[13:12] <cfhowlett> sgtsaughter, "try ubuntu" first then "install" ubuntu once you've entered the live session
[13:13] <sgtsaughter> cfhowlett: i can't even get into the live session after a while i get a black screen with a blinking white cursor and it eventually freezes
[13:13] <cfhowlett> sgtsaughter, try 1. mini.iso and/or 2. lubuntu
[13:15] <sgtsaughter> cfhowlett: ive tried mini.iso and it worked better, but i got stuck when it couldn't detect my network even though i was directly connected to the cable modem...but i havent tried lubuntu yet maybe ill give that a try
[13:17] <usr13> sgtsaughter: Really, you couldn't get connected to your network?
[13:17] <usr13> sgtsaughter: Did you reboot the cable modem?
[13:21] <sgtsaughter> usr13: yeah when i got to the networking part and it said if i have a cable modem from a cable provider id have to enter my account number which i dont have on me...i still feel like ubuntu live cd should just work im wondering if anyone else things its a motherboard issue
[13:21] <old_penguin> Hi, does anyone know how to convert an outlook pst file to thunderbird mbox?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> sgtsaughter, lubuntu is optimized for older and lower specification hardware.  if lubuntu can't boot your system, I'd say ... move on.
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> old_penguin  try Tools > Import
[13:23] <usr13> sgtsaughter: I  don't know, but I doubt it.
[13:23] <sgtsaughter> cfhowlett: thats the thing i just bought all these parts from microcenter two weeks ago they're all new hardware and i told the associate working at microcenter that i needed all hardware to be compatible with ubuntu
[13:24] <bipul> !ubuntu14.10
[13:24] <bipul> !info ubuntu14.10
[13:24] <EriC^^> !14.10
[13:24] <cfhowlett> sgtsaughter, NEW hardware isn't necessarily better for linux.  unless the OEM supports linux, you have to rely on armies of hackers to back-engineer drivers and such.  takes time.
[13:24] <old_penguin> MonkeyDust  I don't see any option to point to a pst file.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> sgtsaughter, but I'm sure microcenter was happy to sell you the latest and greatest shiny stuff, right?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> old_penguin  maybe you can export the pst file, first, then import it in firefox
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> thunderbird*
[13:26] <bipul> EriC^^: Do i have to ask all the query regarding ubuntu14.10 in #ubuntu+1 channel?
[13:26] <cfhowlett> bipul, yes
[13:26] <EriC^^> bipul: i guess so
[13:26] <bipul> cfhowlett: Thank you.
[13:26] <bipul> ok
[13:26] <old_penguin> MonkeyDust ok, I'll try that
[13:26] <z3rocool> CAn reaver be talked about here
[13:26] <old_penguin> thanks
[13:27] <k1l> z3rocool: ask the reaver guys directly. we dont support wifi hacking in here
[13:27] <freeroute> hi, what if (and let's say that this is a hypothetical question... :p) I have no room for downloading updates anymore? Can I do aptitude clean at mid-update?
[13:27] <sgtsaughter> cfhowlett: ugh yeah im sure that had something to do with it i was just hoping that me making a point that everything needed compatible with ubuntu would prevent that... they're telling me to downgrade to the ASUS Z87-Pro Motherboard  so hopefully that will work
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !hcl | sgtsaughter
[13:27] <Skizu> Hey I'm looking to install ubuntu server cli
[13:27] <z3rocool> Is there a fix for reaver/wash on ubuntu 14.04 yet
[13:28] <cfhowlett> !lamp | Skizu,
[13:28] <k1l> z3rocool: file a bug on launchpad.net
[13:28] <Skizu> cfhowlett: Idc about lamp?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> Skizu, you want to install a server via cli?  read the wiki
[13:29] <usr13> Skizu: So what is your problem?
[13:29] <Skizu> usr13: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ whats the difference between the top and bottom downloads xD
[13:30] <k1l> Skizu: did you even read that side? there is explanaitions in the beginning
[13:30] <usr13> Skizu: What do you mean "top and bottom" downloads?
[13:30] <k1l> Skizu: and the 14.04.1 have already included the first "servicepack"
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Skizu  try tasksel (task select)
[13:30] <usr13> Skizu: Can you be a little more specific?
[13:30] <Skizu> k1l: Yeah but the text isthe same for the 2 "Server install image" sections
[13:31] <Skizu> Click the link
[13:31] <usr13> Skizu: One is 32bit and the other is 64
[13:31] <Skizu> There are two sections titled Server install image
[13:32] <usr13> Skizu: x86 is 32bit,  AMD64 is 64bit
[13:32] <k1l> Skizu: one is linked to 14.04 and one is linked to 14.04.1
[13:32] <compdoc> I didnt realize they still made a 32bitr version of server
[13:32] <wesley9946> how much RAM does your server have?
[13:33] <usr13> Skizu: Choices are: ubuntu-14.04.1-server-i386.iso & ubuntu-14.04.1-server-amd64.iso
[13:33] <z3rocool> How would i go about downgrading these libpcap & libpcap-dev in ubuntu 14.04
[13:33] <Skizu> k1l: Is the top 14.04.1 as it doesn't specify
[13:33] <k1l> compdoc: well, i think a lot of old hardware is still used for running a server
[13:33] <rlinx> Questions, What is a channel troll?
[13:33] <k1l> Skizu: just scroll down to the extended list. dont make a drama out of it
[13:33] <compdoc> k1l, hardware that old should be retired
[13:33] <k1l> rlinx: i bet you can discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:33] <usr13> Skizu: Just use the list.
[13:33] <rlinx> thank you
[13:34] <k1l> compdoc: do do i. but some dont
[13:34] <k1l> *so do
[13:34]  * Skizu uses the list
[13:34] <Skizu> Okay cheers all
[13:34] <k1l> Skizu: and btw: if you see where the links direct to you know what is what
[13:34] <name_> Hello! does someone know of a good way to control heat/cpu fan in linux? Temps are 15-20 C higher than in windows XP on idle and jump very quickly up and down.
[13:34] <name_> Its a dell latitude e4200 laptop.
[13:35] <name_> I tried to install i8kutils but the fan just went to max and down again in intervals of ca. 5 secs.
[13:36] <rlinx> How and why do  i use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> name_  look for TLP (not in the repos)
[13:37] <k1l> !paste | rlinx
[13:37] <ecky--ptang-zoob> How come when I put 0.0.0.0 facebook.com in my hosts file, facebook still loads?
[13:38] <wesley9946> why would you put facebook.com in the hosts file?
[13:38] <rlinx> how do I find the url of my paste?
[13:38] <compdoc> ecky--ptang-zoob, might be cached
[13:38] <name_> Ok, ill look for tlp.
[13:38] <k1l> rlinx: like you upload a picture. just with text.
[13:38] <ecky--ptang-zoob> I cleared cache and flushed dns
[13:39] <wesley9946> ecky--ptang-zoob: replace the 0.0.0.0 with 173.252.120.6
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> ecky--ptang-zoob  probably facebook.com redirects automatically to some other page, that is not blocked by 0.0.0.0
[13:40] <rlinx> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:40] <rlinx> when I paste where do I find url to post here?
[13:40] <name_> MonkeyDust now i remember havin installed it already once.
[13:41] <name_> Simply installing didnt change anything.
[13:41] <Wulframn> rlinx: how are you pasting?
[13:41] <k1l> rlinx: its the new url in the url bar
[13:41] <Guest95813> how do I get A2DP to work with my bluetooth headset.  HSP works and sometimes A2DP does and other times it doesn't.  I've tried restarting pulseaudio and bluetooth.
[13:42] <rlinx> I just paste my information and someone here answers?
[13:42] <k1l> rlinx: no. you need to put the link in here
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  someone answers if they know the answer
[13:42] <rlinx>  I need help understanding Loadable kernel module installation
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !kernel
[13:44] <rlinx> "Make sure you give us the URL for your paste"  isn't the url http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:44] <Wulframn> rlinx: ask your question here. If someone knows how to help then they will respond. Paste is for multi-line responses that would trigger the anti-spam bot.
[13:45] <name_> Is it possible to let bios handle fan control? Would it be safe?
[13:45] <Wulframn> rlinx: use that link to post your multi-line response, hit submit, then copy and paste the new url here.
[13:45] <k1l> rlinx: come on. you want to talk about kernel moduls and cant even paste some text on a pastebin? you need to give us the pastbin.com/XXXXXXXX   link, where XXXXX is gernerated by your upload
[13:46] <rlinx> hey it all new to me
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  first become familiar with the command line, then try discussing the kernel
[13:46] <Wulframn> k1l: the ability to use paste and the ability to build a custom kernel are not mutually exclusive
[13:47] <Wulframn> rlinx: what are you trying to achieve?
[13:47] <Sven_vB> hi, i'm looking for a terminal multiplexer with workspace management. for now i have screen instances as my workspaces, with a lot of shell windows in them, but i'd like to be able to move shells between workspaces, and save/resume them i.e. for reboots. would be enough to save, per window: its title, the path my shell was in, and some amount of scrollback. any suggestions?
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  tmux
[13:48] <Sven_vB> MonkeyDust, wow, didn't know it has that save/resume yet
[13:48] <Sven_vB> MonkeyDust, i'll have a look, thanks!
[13:49] <optrusty> name_ ping
[13:50] <name_> optrusty what does it do?
[13:50] <optrusty> name_ What does what do?
[13:50] <name_> ping
[13:50] <k1l> name_: in most cases bios handles fan control anyway
[13:50] <donbirdy> Hi guys
[13:50] <donbirdy> I am just about to install Ubuntu
[13:50] <donbirdy> and have a 4000 GB disk from SEagate
[13:51] <k1l> name_: its just that you want to have a smoother control (for a more quiet fan) and therefor you might want to change some things there
[13:51] <Wulframn> Congrats?
[13:51] <donbirdy> Is there any weird wizardry I need to do before I can use the disk in Ubuntu?
[13:51] <name_> kil I see, then windows is probably the one that controls it?
[13:51] <basiclaser> hey guys, i got a message saying my /boot is running out of space. Also see screenshot. What Can I do ? :)
[13:51] <donbirdy> In terms of UEFI BIos
[13:51] <Wulframn> donbirdy: the enter key is not the space bar
[13:52] <optrusty> name_ k1l is right if you have a custom built PC You can turn off and on your fan
[13:52] <name_> kil i have win7, winxp and ive had two ubuntu based distros and both linuxes ran warm.
[13:52] <donbirdy> I am using an ASUS Rampage GENE II matx motherboard, and Wulframn my apologies
[13:52] <Wulframn> basiclaser: do you have extra room on the drive?
[13:52] <optrusty> donbirdy I dont get why everyone likes UEFI
[13:52] <optrusty> donbirdy is it a custom build or windows 8 per
[13:52] <optrusty> *pre
[13:52] <Wulframn> donbirdy: No need. It just makes it harder to follow your issue. Also, you might trigger the anti-flood bot.
[13:53] <name_> kil that is, on idle it was warm (50-65 C) and using lots of flash content sometimes up to 85 C.
[13:53] <bipul> bug 1374754
[13:54] <donbirdy> I hear the bots on this channel are more worse than Nazi generals
[13:54] <k1l> name_: well, then ask the 2 ubuntu-based distros support on how to get that issue solved.
[13:54] <Wulframn> don
[13:54] <name_> kil In windows its steady around 35-40 C and the max was around 60 C
[13:54] <optrusty> name_ Lets see if you dont make the right config Youre gonna have a blown up cpu and table
[13:54] <Wulframn> donbirdy: not really. Just be mindful of the number of lines you post in quick succession
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> name_  what's the outcome of   uname -r
[13:55] <optrusty> name_ The cpu needs to keep cool
[13:55] <basiclaser> Wulframn: brb restartig
[13:55] <optrusty> name_ especcialy intense proccesses
[13:55] <name_> MonkeyDust 3.13.0-36-generic
[13:55] <donbirdy> Jawohl Herr Wulframn
[13:56] <name_> optrusy i had high temps on Lubuntu too.
[13:56] <optrusty> donbirdy is it a custom build or windows 8 pre installed
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> name_  that's more recent than mine... what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[13:56] <name_> optrusy now on ZorinOS
[13:56] <Wulframn> Nur Englisch
[13:56] <donbirdy> optrusty: No, I have windows 7 installed
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> name_  ask the zorin people, we can't help with that
[13:57] <k1l> name_: well, as i said: ask zorin what they use the cpu that much. its not a ubuntu issue in the first place
[13:57] <Sven_vB> MonkeyDust, in tmux' man page i found the plumbing to create my snapshots, but no commands for a ready-made one, so did i miss them or would i have to implement them myself?
[13:57] <name_> MonkeyDust i see, thanks nevertheless.
[13:58] <name_> kil BTW Zorin OS resource consumption is not so bad, maybe even lighter than Ubuntu Unity.
[13:58] <optrusty> name_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WurUz36lktU Own risk
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> Sven_vB  not sure
[14:01] <name_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uBNCN6v_gk#t=46s
[14:03] <k1l> name_: optrusty this youtube videos suit better into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel, thanks
[14:09] <donbirdy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85cL1HisrNc
[14:09] <k1l> donbirdy: same goes for you.
[14:22] <rlinx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8440734/
[14:27] <rlinx> any help on installing .ko file  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8440734/
[14:28] <saiarcot895> rlinx: You should have the details here, and any code in the pastebin.
[14:28] <rlinx> pleas explain
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  ask the question here, paste the technical details in a pastebin
[14:29] <rlinx> ok
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  don't ask questions in a pastebin
[14:30] <rlinx> Ubuntu 14.04 64.
[14:30] <rlinx> I ask a vendor for a linux driver for pcie frame grabber. They wanted to know the kernel version to compile the driver.
[14:30] <rlinx> I used uname -a and received "Linux gary-System-Product-Name 3.13.0-36-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 3 21:30:07 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:30] <rlinx> gary@gary-System-Product-Name:~/Desktop/XI100XE  ko file$ "
[14:30] <rlinx> I received the driver in the form of XI100XE.ko.
[14:30] <rlinx> How do I install this driver?
[14:30] <unopaste> rlinx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:30] <saiarcot895> rlinx: One like at a time.
[14:31] <rlinx>  using Ubuntu 14.04 64.
[14:31] <saiarcot895> rlinx: As for the installation, I can tell you that you need to copy over the .ko file to somewhere in /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/
[14:31] <saiarcot895> , but in one of the specific subfolders. I can't find a folder for sound/audio.
[14:32] <rlinx> I ask a vendor for a linux driver for pcie frame grabber.
[14:32] <rlinx> They wanted to know the kernel version to compile the driver.
[14:33] <l2ksolkov> I just exited google chrome and Unity disappeared
[14:33] <l2ksolkov> It's still there, but it's not showing.
[14:33] <rlinx> I used uname and received 3.13.0-36-generic #63-Ubuntu
[14:33] <rlinx> I received the driver in the form of XI100XE.ko.
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  try to keep your questions in one line, it's easier to read and repeat
[14:34] <rlinx> Using modinfo I received:
[14:35] <rlinx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8440734/
[14:36] <saiarcot895> rlinx: Try copying the .ko file to /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/sound/pci, then run "sudo depmod".
[14:37] <rlinx> I don't know how to do that
[14:37] <Wulframn> rlinx: use the cp command
[14:37] <rlinx> why sound it's a video grabber
[14:37] <rlinx> did you read the paste
[14:38] <cfhowlett> rlinx, no because
[14:38] <cfhowlett> rlink you use
[14:38] <saiarcot895> rlinx: I saw references to audio in the parameters in modinfo
[14:39] <cfhowlett> rlinx, too many <enter> command.  put all the information in one place for easy reading
[14:39] <rlinx>  i did
[14:39] <rlinx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8440734/
[14:39] <saiarcot895> rlinx: The other possible place might be /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video
[14:41] <Wulframn> rlinx: what kind of driver is it?
[14:41] <rlinx> i need the command line install for this Loadable Kernel Module
[14:42] <saiarcot895> Wulframn: He said it's a video driver
[14:42] <saiarcot895> Wulframn: *video grabber
[14:42] <rlinx> everything is pasted including the modinfo which shows the contents of the .ko file
[14:42] <Wulframn> saiarcot895: I see audio parameters as well. rlinx try putting it in the video folder and enabling it. If it doesn't work then try putting it in the audio folder
[14:43] <Thumpxr> Is there a way to automount multiple smb:// shares at boot/logon? User/Password protected.
[14:43] <saiarcot895> rlinx: "sudo cp /foldername" to copy a file into a root directory
[14:43] <rlinx> I don't know how to do that
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> Thumpxr  try adding smb to /etc/fstab
[14:43] <Wulframn> rlinx: He just told you
[14:43] <rlinx> it needs installed with depends
[14:44] <usr13> Thumpxr: Do you need that much security?  You could just use nfs
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> rlinx  you don't know the basics of the basics and you want to modify and discuss the kernel
[14:44] <Wulframn> MonkeyDust: right?
[14:44] <Thumpxr> usr13: its given.
[14:44] <rlinx> no i just want to install a driver with a set od command lines
[14:44] <rlinx> of
[14:45] <Wulframn> rlinx: yes and to do that you follow simple instructions that have already been laid out for you
[14:45] <Wulframn> rlinx: where is the .ko file now?
[14:46] <rlinx>  I am confusd, every web page I have read uses insmod
[14:46] <rlinx> the ko is on ubuntu desktop
[14:47] <Wulframn> rlinx: ok. Open your command line interface. Tell me when you have done that
[14:47] <compdoc> isnt .ko a driver for *bsd ?
[14:47] <rlinx> supposedly the vendor areeady compiled to latest kernel version
[14:47] <Wulframn> .ko is a kernel module
[14:47] <saiarcot895> compdoc: for any linux
[14:47] <compdoc> ubuntu uses those?
[14:48] <Wulframn> compdoc: every *nix does
[14:48] <rlinx> terminal open
[14:49] <rlinx> Wulframn terminal open
[14:49] <Wulframn> rlinx: type (without quotations) "cd /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video". Hit enter
[14:50] <rlinx> cd /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video Done
[14:50] <Demogorgon> quien de ecuador
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !es | Demogorgon
[14:51] <Wulframn> rlinx: type pwd and hit enter. Paste the output here
[14:52] <rlinx> what pass word I thought ubuntu used sudo?
[14:52] <rlinx> my login pw?
[14:53] <Wulframn> rlinx: just type "pwd" and hit enter
[14:53] <rlinx> or letters "pwd" ?
[14:55] <Wulframn> rlinx: paste the output here when you have done that step
[14:55] <rlinx> gary@gary-System-Product-Name:/lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video$ pwd/lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video
[14:55] <rlinx> gary@gary-System-Product-Name:/lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video$
[14:55] <rlinx> is that what you wanted?
[14:56] <Wulframn> rlinx: yes, this step confirmed that you were in the correct directory
[14:56] <rlinx> thank you
[14:56] <Wulframn> rlinx: the .ko is on your desktop, correct?
[14:56] <rlinx> yes in it's own folder
[14:57] <Wulframn> rlinx: open a separate terminal. Tell me when you've done that
[14:57] <rlinx> ok opened
[14:58] <Wulframn> rlinx: in the new terminal type "ls". You should see a couple of outputs. One should say desktop. Confirm that you see "Desktop"
[14:58] <rlinx> ls
[14:58] <rlinx> ok
[14:59] <Wulframn> lowercase L
[14:59] <rlinx> desktop yes
[14:59] <rlinx> i see it
[15:00] <Wulframn> rlinx: type "cd ./Desktop" and hit enter
[15:00] <rlinx> ok
[15:00] <Wulframn> rlinx: type "ls", do you see the folder your .ko is in?
[15:01] <rlinx> done
[15:01] <Wulframn> rlinx: do you see the folder your .ko is saved in?
[15:01] <rlinx> the folder is named XI100XE
[15:01] <rlinx> yes
[15:02] <Wulframn> rlinx: ok, now type "cp ./XI100XE/*.ko ./" and hit enter
[15:03] <rlinx> gary@gary-System-Product-Name:~/Desktop$ cp ./XI100XE/*.ko ./
[15:03] <rlinx> cp: cannot stat ‘./XI100XE/*.ko’: No such file or directory
[15:03] <rlinx> gary@gary-System-Product-Name:~/Desktop$
[15:04] <Wulframn> rlinx: be careful posting multi line output. The flood bot might kick you
[15:04] <rlinx> ok
[15:05] <Firefly67> the middle button of my mouse is no longer copy-pasting, how do I fix this?
[15:05] <Wulframn> rlinx: are you just copying the command I give you then pasting them into the terminal?
[15:05] <tdn> I have just installled Ubuntu on a separate partition on my harddisk. I have another Ubuntu installation already. Now when I reboot my machine I would expect that it would boot up the newly installed ubuntu. However, it boots the old one. The new one is not even in the grub menu. What to do?
[15:05] <rlinx> yes unless i goofed
[15:05] <tdn> I want to eventually phase out the old one and primarily use the new one.
[15:05] <tdn> Is there a way to reset grub or something?
[15:05] <Wulframn> rlinx: that's fine, but I might have goofed
[15:06] <rlinx> cp ./XI100XE/*.ko ./ is what i copied
[15:06] <EriC^^> tdn: you could reinstall grub in the old one
[15:06] <tdn> EriC^^, like in apt-get install --reinstall grub?
[15:06] <Wulframn> rlinx: ok, so actually type "cp ./<folder>/*.ko ./" where <folder> is the name of the folder.
[15:06] <EriC^^> tdn: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX
[15:06] <EriC^^> tdn: then update-grub
[15:06] <tdn> EriC^^, actually I cannot install anything on the old one, because it is broken in various ways. And I do not want to fix it.
[15:07] <tdn> EriC^^, ok. I will try that.
[15:07] <EriC^^> tdn: actually i think you only need to update-grub
[15:07] <optrusty> Can Anyone help me
[15:07] <Wulframn> !ask
[15:07] <Firefly67> how long do I wait before repeating my question?
[15:08] <Wulframn> Firefly67: give us at least ten minutes between repeats
[15:08] <rlinx> i see the goof
[15:08] <Firefly67> ok, was just wondering if no one noticed it, as this seems like a busy channel
[15:08] <Wulframn> rlinx: yeah, I'm doing this from my phone so...You know...
[15:08] <ObrienDave> very busy
[15:08] <rlinx> the folder's name is    XI100XE  ko file
[15:08] <Wulframn> Firefly67: if no one gets to it in a few minutes I'll do my best to help
[15:09] <Firefly67> ok, it's nothing urgent
[15:09] <Wulframn> rlinx: oh with spaces?
[15:09] <optrusty> I have a Toshiba Sattiliette P855-S5312 that was Windows 8.1 Pre installed then I erased and installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 now my computer is completly FROZEN I cant get in the boot menu or BIOS
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04 ... hints & tips please
[15:09] <rlinx> could we cd into that folder
[15:09] <rlinx> ?
[15:10] <Wulframn> rlinx: we absolutely can but I don't want to because I'm trying to teach you a step we're about to use.
[15:10] <optrusty> Its Ubuntu 14.04.1 x64
[15:10] <optrusty> If you need anymore info just ask me
[15:10] <Wulframn> rlinx: the folder name has spaces?
[15:10] <cfhowlett> optrusty, bios?
[15:10] <optrusty> optrusty ya
[15:10] <ObrienDave> !uefi | optrusty
[15:11] <rlinx> ok  having errors trying again
[15:11] <optrusty> cfhowlett UEFI
[15:11] <Wulframn> rlinx: you can type the first few characters, then hit tab to auto fill the rest
[15:11] <rlinx> yes has spaces how about I rename the folder to one word?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> optrusty, so NOT bios.  details matter.
[15:12] <optrusty> cfhowlett My computer is in CSM mode not UEFI Mode
[15:12] <Wulframn> rlinx: spaces are inserted by placing \ before the space
[15:12] <rlinx> yes has spaces how about I rename the folder to one word?
[15:12] <rlinx>  in wrong folder
[15:12] <Wulframn> rlinx: "mv" is used to both move and rename files.
[15:13] <HelloWolrd> can somebody help me with a pyrit error?
[15:13] <rlinx>  i think  i got it
[15:13] <bekks> HelloWolrd: That depends on your actual error ;)
[15:13] <rlinx> ls
[15:13] <zerothis> how would I get started to over clock my graphics card? I want to change the code, shader, and memory clocks. Is there software for this, or ye olde jumpers?
[15:13] <Wulframn> rlinx: maintenance is here, give me a minute
[15:13] <optrusty> cfhowlett I disabled Secure Boot
[15:14] <tdn> EriC^^, ok. And then how do I set the default grub choice
[15:14] <rlinx>  did ls and get .ko file
[15:14] <rlinx> in correct folder now
[15:14] <rlinx> ok
[15:14] <bekks> zerothis: which graphics adapter do you have, in particular?
[15:14] <tdn> EriC^^, but why did the new installation not install itself in grub?
[15:14] <EriC^^> tdn: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[15:15] <EriC^^> tdn: did you pick the bootloader to be installed in the disk ?
[15:15] <zerothis> Nvidia Corporation G98 (GeForce 8400 GS Rev. 2)
[15:15] <optrusty> cfhowlett My computer was daul booted with Windows & Ubuntu But Windows wasnt working so i erased everything and reinstalled Ubuntu 14.04.1
[15:16] <tdn> EriC^^, I have run update-grub now. Rebooting..... Wouldn't it be enough to then ru nupdate-grub from the new installation?
[15:16] <usr13> optrusty:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:16] <cfhowlett> optrusty, and you installed it with uefi?
[15:16] <EriC^^> tdn: if you want, you can reinstall grub from the new installation
[15:16] <cfhowlett> optrusty, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:16] <HelloWolrd> I try to use SQLite datebase with pyrit. At first everything went fine, but now i get this error when importing a wordlist into pyrit. Actually i get this error whatever i make with pyrit: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cpyrit/storage.py", line 132, in getStorage     raise util.SqlalchemyImportError("SQLAlchemy seems to be " \ cpyrit.util.SqlalchemyImportError: SQLAlchemy seems to be unavailable.
[15:16] <optrusty> cfhowlett CSM
[15:16] <cfhowlett> csm = ???
[15:17] <zerothis> the "howtos" I found are all about optimal clock speeds, not about how to actually adjust them
[15:17] <optrusty> cfhowlett You have never heard of CSM
[15:17] <optrusty> cfhowlett Its the thing that lets you support Legacy OSes
[15:17] <EriC^^> tdn: if you're phasing out the old one, i think you should reinstall grub from the new installation, you can either chroot into it from the old one, or try to get it to boot by updating grub in the old one
[15:18] <usr13> cfhowlett: CSM provides legacy BIOS compatibility
[15:18] <Wulframn> rlinx: I'm going to log off on my phone and log back in on my computer. I'll be back in about thirty minutes
[15:18] <optrusty> usr13 I am completly locked out of my sys
[15:18] <rlinx> thank you
[15:18] <EriC^^> tdn: updating grub will only change the /boot/grub/grub.cfg i think, it won't write grub to the mbr
[15:18] <Wulframn> rlinx: leave those two terminals open
[15:18] <usr13> cfhowlett: "booting Linux on UEFI systems is the same as on legacy BIOS-based systems" (From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface )
[15:18] <rlinx> ok
[15:19] <usr13> optrusty: You can't even boot to setup (BIOS)?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> usr13, reading now ... best I don't advise on this matter until I've learned more so .. not tonight!
[15:19] <wvsfxr> I installed ubuntu 12.04, xfce4, lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, ltsp-server, language packs for [de]. Everything works fine using a raspberry pi as thin client except the language. Keyboard is ok, but I cannot set default language to de. The gentle guys on #ltsp told me to ask here to verify if my system settings are ok because ldm doesnt influence these settings.
[15:19] <optrusty> usr13 I cant
[15:19] <usr13> optrusty: What happens when you trun on the PC?
[15:19] <optrusty> cfhowlett Dont read on wiki its not a good source
[15:20] <usr13> optrusty: I've sent him all the info he needs.
[15:20] <cfhowlett> optrusty, have you a better source?
[15:20] <Guest55923> Can I have some virtual FTP domains on the same IP?
[15:20] <bekks> optrusty: Whats wrong with that source?
[15:20] <optrusty> usr13 It shows the Toshiba Leading Inovattion and then nothing happens
[15:20]  * ObrienDave thinks the bios is borked. try factory settings
[15:20] <optrusty> bekks Ppl can edit the source
[15:20] <usr13> optrusty: Have you ever booted to BOIS settings before?
[15:21] <bekks> optrusty: thats the best thing about it.
[15:21] <optrusty> usr13 What do you mean
[15:21] <usr13> optrusty:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[15:21] <optrusty> usr13 Like Deafalts
[15:21] <optrusty> usr13 COMPLETLy LOCKED
[15:21] <usr13> optrusty: Sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[15:22]  * ObrienDave agrees
[15:22] <optrusty> usr I tried taking out the HDD
[15:22] <optrusty> usr13 ^
[15:22] <usr13> optrusty: Can you boot to the Ubuntu install media?
[15:22] <bekks> optrusty: Did you reset the settings to factory default?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> usr13, does your ubuntu live session USB boot?
[15:22] <ObrienDave> wont do any good if mobo or memory is fried
[15:22] <optrusty> usr13 How do I get a hardware prob after installing Ubuntu
[15:23] <optrusty> bekks How do I do that
[15:23] <bekks> optrusty: Because hardware breaks?
[15:23] <usr13> optrusty: We do not know.
[15:23] <bekks> optrusty: Can yu still get into the BIOS?
[15:23] <optrusty> bekks No
[15:23] <optrusty> bekks I am out of warranty
[15:23] <usr13> bekks: He says he does not know what BIOS is.
[15:23] <bekks> optrusty: Then take a look at the manual of the mobo on how to reset it.
[15:23] <optrusty> 'bekks So I might as well sell the parts
[15:24] <usr13> bekks: It is a laptop.
[15:24] <usr13> optrusty: Is it a laptop or desktop?
[15:24] <bekks> usr13: There's still a manual for it ;)
[15:24] <optrusty> usr13 bekks Laptop
[15:24] <usr13> optrusty: That's what I thought. Ok.
[15:24] <bekks> optrusty: So take a look at the manual on how to reset it.
[15:24] <optrusty> bekks Going now
[15:25] <philippjoc> hi i have ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr
[15:25] <HelloWolrd> bekks do you have any clue what is going on with my pyrit?
[15:26] <usr13> bekks: cfhowlett I'll bet he deleted the UEFI partition
[15:26] <cfhowlett> usr13, yeah that would definitely cause some heartache.  in fact, pretty sure a factory reset would be impossible under those conditions
[15:27] <cfhowlett> usr13, I wonder if some kind of gpt conflict could also be at fault here ..
[15:28] <optrusty[ping]> usr13 :(
[15:29] <usr13> cfhowlett: Yea, I don't know.
[15:29] <usr13> cfhowlett: Could be a couple things I guess.  Hard to tell.
[15:29] <optrusty[ping]> usr13 I can hear you and if you are talking about me I might as well be stuck with a PC
[15:30] <EriC^^> optrusty[ping]: what's wrong?
[15:30] <bekks> HelloWolrd: Well, the message is that a file does not exist.
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04 ... hints & tips please
[15:30] <cfhowlett> optrusty[ping], not enough information.  try this: boot your win8 recovery and fix that much first.
[15:31] <optrusty[ping]> cfhowlett I ERASED WINDOWS 8
[15:31] <usr13> optrusty[ping]: You don't get any options at all when it boots?
[15:31] <ObrienDave> optrusty[ping], no need to SHOUT
[15:31] <EriC^^> optrusty[ping]: what's the problem?
[15:31] <HelloWolrd> bekks so when i use that command: #pyrit -u sqlite:///mydb.db -i /root/Desktop/Exploit/Wordlist/rockyou.txt import_passwords ; mydb.db , file does not exist?
[15:31] <optrusty[ping]> usr13 bekks cfhowlett Nothing... http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=3493946&isFromTOCLink=false
[15:32] <optrusty[ping]> If you need any specs
[15:32] <usr13> optrusty[ping]: Next question:  Did it ever boot after the install process was completed?
[15:32] <Guest55923> how about this FTP?
[15:33] <optrusty[ping]> usr13 No
[15:33] <optrusty[ping]> EriC^^ 11:09 (optrusty) I have a Toshiba Sattiliette P855-S5312 that was Windows 8.1 Pre installed then I erased and installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 now my computer is completly FROZEN I cant get in the boot menu or BIOS
[15:33] <old_penguin> Has anyone installed the latest 14.04 bash update?
[15:34] <k1l> old_penguin: a lot have
[15:34] <old_penguin> I ran this env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo hello'
[15:34] <old_penguin> to test vulnerability
[15:34] <old_penguin> it return
[15:34] <old_penguin> hello
[15:34] <usr13> optrusty[ping]: So, this is what happened:  You did a complete install of Ubuntu 14.04 and then when it rebooted, you only get __________?? What, the name of the computer?  (Tell us again.)  (Or show us a pciture.)
[15:34] <k1l> old_penguin: so?
[15:34] <old_penguin> Is that ok?
[15:34] <saiarcot895> old_penguin: That means you're fine (from that point).
[15:34] <old_penguin> perfect
[15:35] <usr13> !paste | optrusty[ping]
[15:35] <old_penguin> Thank you.
[15:35] <k1l> "env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c 'echo you are fine'"    old_penguin run this
[15:35] <xJohn> opt: try boot pen
[15:35] <optrusty[ping]> usr13 I will upload a video to youtube
[15:36] <EriC^^> optrusty[ping]: what does it say when you boot?
[15:36] <old_penguin> K1l  thanks
[15:36] <old_penguin> alls good
[15:36] <saiarcot895> old_penguin: So you didn't get "vulnerable" on the second one?
[15:37] <zerothis> optrusty: you erased Windows 8, HALLELUJAH!
[15:37] <old_penguin> I got "you are fine"
[15:37] <old_penguin> thanks
[15:37] <old_penguin> You guys are great!!!!!!
[15:37] <optrusty[ping]> EriC^^ Just Toshiba Leading inovation
[15:38] <EriC^^> optrusty[ping]: did you try to boot a live usb?
[15:38] <michele_> eric
[15:38] <michele_> nice to meet you xD
[15:38] <optrusty[ping]> EriC^^ Completly Locked
[15:38] <EriC^^> michele_: you too
[15:38] <michele_> the problem persist
[15:39] <michele_> the luminosity change then the load
[15:40] <EriC^^> michele_: ok
[15:40] <EriC^^> hold on
[15:41] <adam_123> hi
[15:42] <wvsfxr> I installed ubuntu 12.04, xfce4, lightdm, lightdm-gtk-greeter, ltsp-server, language packs for [de]. Everything works fine using a raspberry pi as thin client except the language. Keyboard is ok, but I cannot set default language to de. The gentle guys on #ltsp told me to ask here to verify if my system settings are ok because ldm doesnt influence these settings.
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[15:45] <adam_123> How to find out what files are creating when an application is installing (with ap-get)?
[15:46] <ObrienDave> optrusty[ping], remove battery and hold power button for 30 seconds to drain capacitors
[15:46]  * ObrienDave thanks xJohn for the idea
[15:47] <ObrienDave> *reminder :)
[15:48] <CarlFK> can I disable my power button so it doesn't launch the "good bye.. lock, suspend, ...off" choices?
[15:49] <usr13> adam_123: cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package-name>.list
[15:50] <basiclaser> hey guys im back again, having this weird local memory issue.
[15:50] <CarlFK> my button is near the power connector (laptop) and most of the time I un/plug I press the button accidentally
[15:50] <basiclaser> please have a look at this error message http://system-art.io/screenshot/a.png
[15:50] <basiclaser> and http://system-art.io/screenshot/b.png
[15:50] <usr13> adam_123: (The Tab key is your friend)
[15:51] <basiclaser> i 'reset the cache' or something in sudo apt yesterday, im not sure if that messed up my hd
[15:51] <adam_123> usr13: Thanks.
[15:52] <ObrienDave> CarlFK, yes, mine is set to "do nothing"
[15:52] <CarlFK> ObrienDave: where do I set that?
[15:52] <ObrienDave> CarlFK, power manager or something like that. (on Xubuntu)
[15:53] <eric1> Whew, finally got the IRC client that I wanted.
[15:53] <CarlFK> ObrienDave: doh!  I was looking for hotkey things..
[15:53] <ObrienDave> :))
[15:55] <CarlFK> ObrienDave: except that dialog doesn't have that setting.  I have lid closed, low battery ... no power button
[15:55] <usr13> basiclaser: Your boot partition is too small.  (What size is it?)
[15:55] <usr13> basiclaser: How many kernels do you have?
[15:56] <ObrienDave> CarlFK, i'm using Xubuntu. i'm not sure where your setting would be.
[15:57] <usr13> basiclaser: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list
[15:57] <tdn> EriC^^, it worked. THanks!
[15:57] <adam_123> usr13: What do you mean of this sentence "The Tab key is your friend" ?
[15:57] <cfhowlett> basiclaser, default /boot is 100 mb.  to clean out all but the 2 most recent kernels:   sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:58] <ObrienDave> adam_123, for nick auto complete
[15:58] <cfhowlett> adam_123, tab complete
[15:58] <ObrienDave> beat ya, PFFFFFT ;P
[15:59] <usr13> adam_123: When you get to a unique part of the path and you hit the tab key, it auto-completes so that you are sure at that point that you are on your way to or are actually reaching a valid file-name
[16:00] <SchrodingersScat> adam_123: correct, a lot of linux is hitting tab until you get what you want.
[16:00] <usr13> adam_123: (Hit it a couple times...)
[16:00] <adam_123> usr13: Oh, Yeah. I get it.
[16:00] <HelloWorld> bekks i cant figure out what file was not found
[16:00] <cfhowlett> adam_123, works for listing and autocompleting commands in the terminal too
[16:00] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, ... don't think I didn't see the snarky comment ...
[16:01] <ObrienDave> :)
[16:01] <usr13> adam_123: And you probably pretty much already knew most of that, but just so you know the extent of it's usefulness....
[16:01] <eric1> Cant wake Ubuntu 14.04 out of sleep mode
[16:02] <usr13> eric1: How much RAM do you have?
[16:02] <adam_123> eric1: I have that problem too!
[16:02] <usr13> eric1: What size is your swap partition?  sudo fdisk -l
[16:03] <usr13> eric1: adam_123 One of the common reasons for that problem is that swap partition is smaller than RAM
[16:04] <usr13> eric1: ... or that the installation was done without creating swap parition ...
[16:04] <ObrienDave> swap? we don't need no stinking swap ;P
[16:04] <adam_123> usr13: Ram: 2GB, Swap: 2GB.
[16:05] <usr13> adam_123: Swap:  ________?  Give us an exact number.
[16:06] <bytefire> hey channel, i want to compile and use latest kernel version on my Ubuntu. i want to use the .config file that is currently used on my Ubuntu.
[16:06] <bytefire> is it this file: /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-35-generic/.config
[16:06] <bytefire> 3.13.0-35-generic is my kernel's release number
[16:07] <ObrienDave> bytefire, 0-37 is the latest
[16:07] <adam_123> usr13: is not 2 GB an exact number?!
[16:07] <EriC^^> tdn: no problem
[16:08] <bytefire> ObrienDave, thanks... that's what i want to use
[16:08] <EriC^^> michele_: i tried to add a command to the sudoers file, so that you can execute it in the startup programs without a password, but it isn't working for the whole command ( echo ....brightness )
[16:08] <jarnos> EriC^^, the script I gave does not work, if there is no matching package, but I found a fix.
[16:08] <bytefire> ObrienDave, is that config file correct to use?
[16:08] <EriC^^> michele_: you can do something else if you want
[16:08] <ObrienDave> bytefire, sorry, that i would not know
[16:08] <michele_> ok
[16:08] <EriC^^> michele_: do you have gcc ? :D
[16:08] <michele_> no
[16:08] <michele_> what is gcc
[16:08] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install gcc , if you want
[16:08] <EriC^^> it's a compiler
[16:09] <michele_> ok
[16:09] <bekks> It is installed by default.
[16:09] <michele_> now i must to create a program?
[16:09] <EriC^^> bekks: i dont think so
[16:10] <bekks> EriC^^: I do know it :o)
[16:10] <bytefire> ObrienDave, okay. thanks anyway :)
[16:10] <bekks> EriC^^: Without it dkms would not be able to run, etc.
[16:10] <EriC^^> michele_: if you type gcc --version, what do you get?
[16:11] <michele_> 4.4
[16:11] <michele_> 4.8.2
[16:11] <EriC^^> ok, good
[16:11] <eric1> usr13, 2 GB ram, full install
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info gcc
[16:11] <usr13> eric1: What size is your RAM?
[16:11] <usr13> eric1: What size is your swap?
[16:11] <eric1> 2GB, not sure about swap
[16:12] <ObrienDave> kind of important
[16:12] <EriC^^> michele_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441311/
[16:12] <k1l> free -m will tell what size swap is
[16:12] <usr13> eric1: sudo fdisk -l |grep swap
[16:12] <michele_> where i paste this?
[16:12] <EriC^^> michele_: nano brightness.c
[16:13] <EriC^^> paste it there and save
[16:13] <ObrienDave> Swap:            0          0          0
[16:13] <ObrienDave>  ;P
[16:13] <[joker]> anyone ever setup mysticbbs on ubuntu?  and gotten door games to work?
[16:13] <usr13> eric1: Give us the last number (should be 3)
[16:13] <michele_> i do it
[16:13] <EriC^^> michele_: ok, compile it with gcc brightness.c -o brightness
[16:13] <EriC^^> then type ./brightness to test it
[16:14] <michele_> what?
[16:14] <usr13> eric1: free
[16:14] <michele_> i write nano brightnes.c
[16:14] <jack> help...no audio
[16:14] <michele_> and in this file i paste your code
[16:14] <thakyZ> daftykins: can you give me that link to that page for installing my driver on ubuntu?
[16:14] <EriC^^> michele_: then ctrl+o to save, and ctrl+x to exit
[16:15] <michele_> yes i do it
[16:15] <EriC^^> ok, then type gcc brightness.c -o brightness
[16:15] <usr13> eric1: free |pastebinit  #Send URL
[16:15] <michele_> ok
[16:15] <eric1> sda 5: 2093056
[16:15] <michele_> next?
[16:15] <thakyZ> daftykins: nevermind got it...
[16:15] <EriC^^> michele_: ok now type sudo chown root: brightness && sudo chmod +s brightness
[16:16] <Guest30357> Hey.I'm trying to write a video DVD using k3b.but get: Could not determine size of result image file.
[16:16] <michele_> i do it
[16:16] <michele_> don't appear nothing
[16:16] <EriC^^> michele_: ok, now type ./brightness
[16:17] <michele_> yes now the luminosity it set in minimum
[16:17] <michele_> i like this
[16:17] <ObrienDave> [joker], BBS??? oh my, that brings back moldy oldie memories ;P
[16:17] <EriC^^> ok, great,
[16:17] <michele_> finish?
[16:17] <EriC^^> michele_: now use sudo mv brightness /path/to/new/location
[16:17] <EriC^^> michele_: you need to add it to the startup programs
[16:17] <eric1> /dev/sda5/152115200 2093056 swap 82
[16:18] <michele_> ah ok
[16:18] <Guest30357> no idea?
[16:18] <usr13> eric1: Look at the ouptut of free  Compare the numbers in the total collum, (Is Mem: larger that Swap:?)
[16:18] <michele_> file or directory don't exist
[16:18] <EriC^^> michele_: if you want, you can put it whereever you want, and add the path to the startup programs ( dash > startup )
[16:18] <adam_123> Does anyone want to share his/her Skype account?
[16:18] <EriC^^> michele_: where do you want to put it?
[16:18] <jParkton> for?
[16:18] <jParkton> ubuntu skyping?
[16:18] <jParkton> lol
[16:18] <Krixvar> Hey all, somehow my routing table got broken without having changed anything.. sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 fixes it but I have to run it every login, is there a way to do it permanently?
[16:18] <michele_> everywhere
[16:19] <michele_> home?
[16:19] <Guest30357> I'm trying to write a video DVD using k3b.but get: Could not determine size of result image file.
[16:19] <ObrienDave> Guest30357, give it 10 minutes or so between reposts, thanks
[16:19] <EriC^^> michele_: if you want you can put it in a hidden folder or something
[16:20] <usr13> adam_123: With you?
[16:20] <jParkton> doesnt k3b have a channel?
[16:20] <[joker]> ObrienDave yeah trying to install a LORD game
[16:20] <usr13> eric1: I think your Swap partition is a little to small.  You need to resize it and make it bigger.
[16:20] <jParkton> Guest30357: #k3b
[16:20] <adam_123> usr13: With us.
[16:20] <[joker]> i got the bbs running and all, but right now cant get dosemu to relay properly through
[16:20] <EriC^^> michele_: type mkdir ~/.mybin
[16:21] <jack> rephrase: i don't hear anything - how to troubleshoot?
[16:21] <michele_> i do it
[16:21] <usr13> adam_123: So you and the mouse in your pocket wants to use someone else's skype account?
[16:21] <Guest30357>  jParkton:it's empty.
[16:21] <ObrienDave> [joker], i had a BBS back in the early 80's. 2MB online LMAO
[16:21] <jParkton> sad
[16:21] <k1l> jack: make sure the wiring is ok and the output is not muted
[16:21] <EriC^^> michele_:  then type sudo mv brightness ~/.mybin
[16:21] <jParkton> Guest30357: maybe in #Kubuntu
[16:22] <michele_> i do it
[16:22] <EriC^^> ok, now go to dash > startup
[16:22] <adam_123> usr13: What? NO!  I just wanted to add someone to my contact list.
[16:22] <ObrienDave> Guest30357, why k3b to write video DVD?
[16:22] <michele_> yes
[16:23] <eric1> Does sleep mode have a config  file to enable/disable?
[16:23] <usr13> adam_123: See my pm
[16:23] <Guest30357> ObrienDave: what else?
[16:23] <EriC^^> michele_: add > name: brightness, command: ~/.mybin/brightness
[16:23] <michele_> wait i go to the folder
[16:23] <michele_> now i open the terminal ?
[16:24] <ObrienDave> Guest30357, OGMrip ;)
[16:24] <EriC^^> michele_: no it's in the dash > startup
[16:25] <EriC^^> michele_: do you have unity?
[16:25] <[joker]> 2mb is a lot of ram for early 80s
[16:25] <michele_> i don't know xD
[16:25] <Guest30357> ObrienDave: prefer this.
[16:25] <EriC^^> michele_: ah nevermind
[16:25] <michele_> i open the dash and i write startup
[16:25] <EriC^^> yup
[16:25] <michele_> it appear the folder
[16:25] <ObrienDave> [joker], that was the size of my 2 IEEE drives ;P
[16:25] <michele_> and i open it
[16:25] <michele_> now what i do?
[16:25] <EriC^^> startup applications?
[16:26] <Boscop_> what's the package name of the archive manager for tar etc?
[16:26] <Guest30357> ObrienDave:I wrote some before.but I don't know why this time it doesn't work!?
[16:26] <michele_> there is 3 folder and 2 files
[16:26] <ObrienDave> Guest30357, i could not tell you
[16:26] <athlon> hello
[16:27] <michele_> bl oprators, bl_ui, _pycache_, and 2 file keyngsets_builtins.py and nodeitems_builtins.py
[16:27] <EriC^^> michele_: no startup applications?
[16:27] <athlon> Could someone here help me with "wget" command?
[16:27] <michele_> no
[16:27] <ObrienDave> [joker], one drive was BBS and messaging, the other was (ahem) downloads LOL
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Guest30357, this tut worked for me when k3b kept crapping out, http://paste.kde.org/pwxegbfdp
[16:28] <michele_> i think this folder is the folder of startup applications but i don't know
[16:28] <EriC^^> hold on
[16:28] <ObrienDave> [joker], C-64 based BBS system. ravics BBS. iirc
[16:29] <michele_> i've not much time
[16:29] <EriC^^> open a terminal
[16:29] <BadWOlf> hello anybody here can help me out with a small issue on 14.04 ?
[16:29] <EriC^^> and type gnome-session-properties
[16:29] <michele_> ok
[16:29] <ikonia> BadWOlf: we don't know until you tell us the issue
[16:29] <durpadorp> How do I set my wlan0 interface down durring boot?
[16:29] <michele_> applications of startup
[16:29] <BadWOlf> should i say it here public ?
[16:30] <michele_> indicator application and psensor
[16:30] <ikonia> BadWOlf: yes
[16:30] <EriC^^> ok, click add
[16:30] <michele_> name command and comment
[16:30] <athlon> i need to download from a link but wget doesn't seem able to get the right file and saved it as xml instead
[16:30] <michele_> xD
[16:30] <EriC^^> michele_: name: brightness, command: ~/.mybin/brightness
[16:30] <ObrienDave> BadWOlf, as long as it's family friendly ;P
[16:30] <thakyZ> can someone help me I cannot get it so I can use my Realtek wireless lan connection and I did follow the steps on this page: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53136/realtek-8190-wireless-doesnt-work
[16:30] <michele_> add?
[16:30] <EriC^^> yup
[16:31] <michele_> ok i do it
[16:31] <michele_> restart and try
[16:31] <BadWOlf> ok here goes, i have a laptop with a solid stade drive that i have the 14.04 installed and another one , a 1t hard disk that i keep my files, when i open the pc and i try to go directly to any place in the secondary hard disk i cant
[16:31] <michele_> ?
[16:31] <EriC^^> see you later for the 3rd time? :P
[16:31] <BadWOlf> and no application can access it
[16:31] <michele_> hahaha
[16:31] <BadWOlf> BUt
[16:31] <michele_> no problem
[16:31] <EriC^^> hehe, yeah
[16:31] <michele_> see you later
[16:31] <eric1> usr13, thanks for the help
[16:31] <EriC^^> ok
[16:31] <ikonia> BadWOlf: what do you mean "I can't"
[16:31] <ikonia> BadWOlf: you have to be more specific than "I can't"
[16:32] <BadWOlf> if i click to nautilus first and click on the drive to open it i can then acess it from everywhere
[16:32] <BadWOlf> ok for example
[16:32] <BadWOlf> i open the pc
[16:32] <ObrienDave> it's not auto mounting
[16:32] <ikonia> BadWOlf: open the PC ?
[16:32] <ikonia> as in take the lid off ?
[16:32] <BadWOlf> and then i try to open a folder from the desktop
[16:32] <BadWOlf> shotcuts that is in the secondary hd
[16:32] <ObrienDave> ikonia, english translation issue :)
[16:32] <ikonia> yeah
[16:33] <BadWOlf> and it tells me it cant find the location
[16:33] <BadWOlf> but
[16:33] <BadWOlf> if i first open the home of the drive in nautillus
[16:33] <ikonia> BadWOlf: what is the location you are looking at when it fails
[16:33] <BadWOlf> every location
[16:33] <ObrienDave> BadWOlf, it's not auto mounting
[16:33] <BadWOlf> all files and folders
[16:33] <athlon> it's not mounted automatically
[16:33] <michele_> max luminosity... now i go out, see you later ;)
[16:34] <BadWOlf> untill i open up the drive in nautillus
[16:34] <BadWOlf> so how can i make it auto mount ?
[16:34] <michele_> thanks anyway
[16:34] <athlon> should go to edit - preferences
[16:34] <ObrienDave> BadWOlf, NTFS drive?
[16:34] <ikonia> BadWOlf: what is the exact location you try to open that fails
[16:34] <BadWOlf> every location
[16:35] <athlon> the last tab - enable volume management.
[16:35] <EriC^^> argh, i think startup needs /home/user instead of ~/
[16:35] <BadWOlf> wait let me check if it is ntfs
[16:35] <ikonia> BadWOlf: "every location" is not an answer
[16:35] <BadWOlf> ext3/4 i guess
[16:35] <ikonia> BadWOlf: what is the EXACT location you are trying to open when it fails
[16:35] <BadWOlf> any location
[16:35] <BadWOlf> for example
[16:35] <jack> rephrase: i don't hear anything - how to troubleshoot?
[16:35] <ikonia> enough no
[16:35] <BadWOlf> if i have opened some torrents
[16:35] <ikonia> now
[16:36] <BadWOlf> and i selected to download in a location in the drive
[16:36] <ikonia> I've asked you 3 times to not use "everywhere"
[16:36] <ikonia> and you keep saying it
[16:36] <jack> (running trusty)
[16:36] <BadWOlf> ok ok
[16:36] <athlon> Badwolf: go to Nautilus, click edit - prefenrences - advance - enable volume management
[16:36] <elhoir> hello
[16:37] <ObrienDave> BadWOlf, drives have to be mounted before you can access them
[16:37] <athlon> and click the configure..
[16:37] <elhoir> i want to learn how lo package apps for Ubuntu, could you tell me a manual (in spanish preferably) about it?
[16:37] <BadWOlf> athlon i cant fiind advance
[16:39] <BadWOlf> athlon ?
[16:39] <thakyZ> hey can someone help me? I have ubuntu 14.04 on my desktop and I am trying to get my Realtek PCIe GBE wireless card to work with my OS. I followed all the steps on http://askubuntu.com/questions/53136/realtek-8190-wireless-doesnt-work but it still says ethernet and I cannot add a connection of wifi on the network settings page... can some one please help me?
[16:39] <thakyZ> and I do not have internet
[16:39] <trism> elhoir: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/es/html/
[16:39] <thakyZ> without the card
[16:40] <elhoir> thank you trism
[16:41] <athlon> BadwOlf: do you find the last tab in nautilus prefences?
[16:41] <BadWOlf> my last one is named preview
[16:41] <BadWOlf> i open up nautillus and i click edit >preferences
[16:42] <elhoir> trism, but this guide is intended for using with launchpad. I just want to make .deb packages locally (at first)
[16:42] <BadWOlf> i get views behaviour display
[16:42] <BadWOlf> list  columns and preview
[16:43] <trism> elhoir: the packaging new software section covers that
[16:44] <athlon> BadWolf: what else are the tabs?
[16:44] <phunyguy> does anyone know of a way to get a tray icon to appear these days in unity when running a script?  I used zenity in the past, which broke, and now yad is broken too.
[16:44] <BadWOlf> views behaviour display list columns and preview
[16:44] <trism> elhoir: on the other hand, https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ is very good too, it's actually what I read when I started
[16:45] <rlinx> I renamed the .ko folder to XI100XEfile and did cp ./XI100XEfile/*.ko ./     no errors
[16:45] <rlinx> can someone else help me
[16:46] <athlon> Badw0lf: i suggest using setting manager from the menu
[16:46] <rlinx> what is the command to paste this file into another directory?
[16:47] <athlon> Badw0lf: find the "removable drives and media"
[16:47] <BadWOlf> wait wait im new
[16:47] <BadWOlf> you mean system settings ?>
[16:47] <athlon> yep..
[16:47] <athlon> system settings
[16:47] <rlinx> if I cp ./ a file how do I paste it
[16:47] <rlinx> need command
[16:47] <Wind0p> hi all... just install ubuntu 14.04 LTS, haven't used Linux in years, giving it a go again.  trying to setup numlock to turn on at login screen... typed the following into the dash: gksudo gedit /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-unity-greeter.conf (copied from ubuntuhandbook.org) ... pressed enter, nothing happened... any idea why nothing is happening?
[16:48] <BadWOlf> athlon where is removable drives and media in system settings ?
[16:48] <BadWOlf> found it
[16:48] <BadWOlf> wait i got it
[16:49] <trism> phunyguy: you can use app indicators and a bit of python to do it, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441538/ is a script I use to add quick indicators from other shell scripts
[16:49] <thakyZ> can someone help me with my problem?
[16:49] <webgen> hi guys i have a quick issue, I am on Lubuntu, and I want to check system information, hardware, how can I inspect it ? thanks in advance
[16:49] <athlon> Badw0lf: there's there section: personal, hardware, system.
[16:50] <athlon> Badw0lf: removable drive located in hardware section of system settings
[16:50] <athlon> Badw0lf: here is the screenshot: http://nicthegeek.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ubuntu_5_home_all.png
[16:51] <BadWOlf> i saw the screenshot , its crazy i dont hav e it
[16:51] <BadWOlf> maybe because the drive is not external
[16:51] <BadWOlf> maybe i forgot to mention
[16:52] <BadWOlf> i have two hdd inside the laptop on sata
[16:52] <ekkotroll> I thought Netflix worked in Firefox by now
[16:52] <ObrienDave> ekkotroll, there is a workaround
[16:52] <athlon> Badw0lf: you'll need command to automount it when starting
[16:52] <ekkotroll> By installing that security library?
[16:52] <lynnix> webgen     maybe somthing like   lsusb  or lspci??
[16:52] <BadWOlf> ok what do i type ?
[16:53] <webgen> lynnix i already found it it is lshw :P
[16:54] <lynnix> webgen  yes that is another one
[16:55] <athlon> Badw0lf:i think you want to look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[16:55] <webgen> lynnix thanks very much anyways
[16:56] <lynnix> ok
[16:56] <Wind0p> is there a better linux channel for complete newbs?
[16:56] <Richard|> hey, i'm using ubuntu 14.04 and  i frequently have an issue with a login loop...when i enter in my correct credentials i'm sent back to the login screen. this repeats 2-4 times before i finally login...
[16:56] <ObrienDave> Wind0p, no better than this one
[16:56] <ikonia> Wind0p: this channel is fine for ubuntu users who are new
[16:56] <Richard|> i do always get in after several attempts, but i find it pretty strange
[16:56] <Wind0p> ObrienDave, thank you.
[16:57] <pd921> you can also try lets say dmesg | grep usb to get status
[16:58] <BadWOlf> ok checking it out the link
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04 ... hints & tips please
[17:00] <athlon> Badw0lf:here for the easiest way: http://www.howtogeek.com/60817/how-to-auto-mount-partitions-at-linux-startup-the-easy-way/
[17:01] <windo> I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old Pentium D 2.80GHz w/ 1 GB RAM hoping that it would be a bit quicker than Windows XP.  This does not seem to be the case.  What version would be appropriate for this machine and/or what can I do to 14.04 LTS to improve performance on a slow system?
[17:01] <riobe> I installed kubuntu and it seems to be unable to output audio across HDMI. It can see my HDMI and volume is high for it, but I can't figure out how to get it to output to it. I've tried uninstalling alsa and pulseaudio packages, reinstalling, and doing an alsa force-restart with no luck.  Here is the result from my aplay -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441617/
[17:01] <riobe> Is there anything I can do to get audio to play? Or good resources to go to for help?
[17:01] <athlon> Could someone here help with "wget" command?
[17:02] <lynnix> windo     try using a lighter desktop like  LXDE   ie lubuntu
[17:03] <athlon> I tried to download rar file from link like "secure_token=ZI8cwxHQ&nodes%5B%5D=example.rar&file=example.rar" but wget only recognize it as xml file?
[17:03] <jParkton> athlon: what is the actual link?
[17:04] <athlon> wget downloade the file as php
[17:05] <athlon> jParkton: I have sent the link via new dialog chat
[17:06] <Jake> Hi there, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 server and I'm wondering if the machine is vunerable to ShellShock
[17:07] <elhoir> Jake, maybe you should upgrade to 14.04
[17:07] <elhoir> because of support, mostly
[17:07] <Jake> elhoir, is there a way do to that without wiping the entire system?
[17:07] <elhoir> of course
[17:08] <Jake> care to explain what that way is?
[17:08] <elhoir> (i cant remember the package where do-release-upgrade is!)
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> Jake  try sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:08] <basiclaser> hey guys, I am getting warnings that my /boot partition is critically full, only has 2.8mb left. How can I check , and then remove any unneccessary stuff?
[17:08] <Jake> MonkeyDust, not found
[17:08] <elhoir> MonkeyDust, he is using server edition, do-release-upgrade is not instaleld by default
[17:08] <EriC^^> basiclaser: df -h
[17:08] <elhoir> installed*
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> ok
[17:09] <elhoir> update-manager ?
[17:09] <EriC^^> !find do-release-upgrade
[17:09] <garrie> Hey hey.
[17:09] <garrie> I was using Mint XFCE.
[17:09] <garrie> I'm now using Xubuntu.
[17:09] <basiclaser> EriC^^: would you check out a pastebin? :)
[17:09] <EriC^^> basiclaser: sure
[17:09] <garrie> Since Mint is based on Ubuntu... what's the difference between mint xfce and xubuntu?
[17:10] <ekkotroll> Is there any good reasons to not use 64-bit version of Ubuntu today? (I.e Skype or Steam support)
[17:10] <MonkeyDust> basiclaser  paste this line, change 500M to whatever size you want: find /boot -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[17:10] <elhoir> Jake, try sudo apt-get install update-manager && sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:11] <Jake> elhoir, will upgrading to 14.04 stop running processes?
[17:11] <Jake> I mean I assume It would require a reboot
[17:12] <elhoir> Jake, yes, while updating them. They will be automatically restarted after that
[17:12] <Jake> elhoir, does the server itself have to be stopped?
[17:12] <seanh> Argh, I ran gparted at the same time as Brasero was writing a CD and Brasero got stuck. I've killed gparted now but the light is still flashing on my CD drive and Brasero is still stuck on 25%, anyone know what I can do to free it up?
[17:12] <BadWOlf> athlon you there ?
[17:12] <basiclaser> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/Z1vqrCt5
[17:12] <EriC^^> elhoir: Jake ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[17:12] <basiclaser> im not sure what to look for
[17:12] <elhoir> Jake, PC not, but individual servers  (Apahe, mysql....) will
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> basiclaser  paste this line, change 500M to whatever size you want: find /boot -size +500M -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[17:12] <elhoir> thanks EriC^^
[17:13] <Jake> EriC^^, I got it installed
[17:13] <Jake> thanks
[17:13] <EriC^^> basiclaser: looks like /boot is pretty full
[17:13] <EriC^^> basiclaser: check what kernels you have installed
[17:13] <EriC^^> basiclaser: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[17:14] <garrie> So, nobody?
[17:14] <garrie> If Mint is based on ubuntu, what's the difference between mint XFCE edition and Xubuntu?>
[17:14] <elhoir> garrie, i didnt read you sorry
[17:14] <garrie> elhoir, As above :)
[17:14] <elhoir> ah, ok i see, but i cant help you, i dont know the answer, sorry xD
[17:15] <garrie> Ah, okay.
[17:15] <garrie> Okay. I avoided using Ubuntu before because I was concerned about hte privacy issues regarding Unity.
[17:15] <thakyZ> hello can some one help me with my problem?
[17:15] <garrie> Am I safe from any privacy issues in using Xubuntu?
[17:15] <k1l> garrie: ubuntu and its community is more awesome :)
[17:16] <garrie> thakyZ, that depends on what your problem is :)
[17:16] <k1l> garrie: you are safe on any official ubuntu derivate
[17:16] <Wulframn> garrie: you could always just install and use another DE
[17:16] <jParkton> ^
[17:16] <elhoir> Jake, it would be a good thing to restart the physical PC, but you can leave it running, and reboot when you want to
[17:16] <thakyZ> Ok, so I got help from this guy on the ubuntu irc chat and he helped me to follow these steps from this topic: http://askubuntu.com/questions/53136...ss-doesnt-work and I sucessfuly installed the driver but I cannot add Wifi in the Network settings page. Here is the updated wifi log: http://pastebin.com/2k1dZiJs
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> thakyZ  let's hear it, in one line
[17:16] <k1l> garrie: dont get stirred up by the FUD. there is an easy system settings for privacy.
[17:17] <Jake> elhoir, Everyone that's connected is prepped for a total reboot
[17:17] <benzrf> help
[17:17] <benzrf> my sound stopped working; i rebooted; it worked; stopped again
[17:17] <basiclaser> EriC^^: the first command went well, i set it to 2gb , here was the kernel majigger http://pastebin.com/18UafRiZ
[17:17] <benzrf> i am not muted and the drivers are loaded
[17:17] <thakyZ> I need to make it so I can use my wireless card and I have followed steps on a topic but I still can't add wifi to the network settings page
[17:17] <Wulframn> benzrf: the enter key isn't the space bar
[17:17] <benzrf> it's not a hardware problem because terminal beeps still work and my hardware uses the regular speakers for hardware beeps
[17:18] <benzrf> Wulframn: k
[17:18] <garrie> k1l, FUD?
[17:18] <usr13> basiclaser: You mand a small /boot partition (237M) It is full.  Remove some kernels
[17:18] <k1l> garrie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt  the drama about the "ubuntu is spyware" which you are refering to.
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> basiclaser  did you use the command i suggested twice?
[17:18] <benzrf> please help me troubleshoot this :I
[17:19] <thakyZ> so can some one help me?
[17:19] <garrie> k1l, Haha, aye. I've just been through the Scottish independence referendum, so I know all about Fear Uncertainty and Doubt as a media tactic.
[17:19] <bytefire> can anyone point to how to configure grub to load a newly compiled kernel?
[17:20] <EriC^^> basiclaser: for i in  24 32 34; do sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-$i-generic; done
[17:20] <EriC^^> basiclaser: that'll leave you with the last 2 kernels
[17:20] <k1l> benzrf: see system logs why sound stopped
[17:20] <benzrf> k1l: like dmesg?
[17:20] <k1l> benzrf: yes
[17:20] <usr13> basiclaser: uname -r  #To see which kernel you are using now.  Just don't remove that one.
[17:20] <Wulframn> bytefire: you need to modify your grub.conf (I think that is it) to point to the new kernel
[17:20] <riobe> I installed kubuntu and it seems to be unable to output audio across HDMI. It can see my HDMI and volume is high for it, but I can't figure out how to get it to output to it. I've tried uninstalling alsa and pulseaudio packages, reinstalling, and doing an alsa force-restart with no luck.  Here is the result from my aplay -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441617/ Is there anything I can do to get audio to play? Or good resources to go to for help?
[17:21] <usr13> basiclaser: ... which is probably 3.13.0.36.43  Right?
[17:21] <benzrf> k1l: what do i grep for
[17:21] <bytefire> Wulframn, thanks... i've been looking at grub.conf (for the first time) but not sure where to make the change
[17:21] <k1l> benzrf: just read it if there is some error with audio
[17:21] <Kaspi> Hello guys, I have just installed Xubuntu on a machine, where originally was just Lubuntu and I would like to use it, but GRUB menu doesn't show up on startup and it automatically boots into Lubuntu, any idea?
[17:22] <benzrf> k1l: not seeing anything...
[17:22] <Wulframn> bytefire: I'm on my phone. Can you use paste to provide the file?
[17:22] <Wulframn> !paste
[17:22] <usr13> basiclaser: basiclaser: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list
[17:24] <benzrf> !pastebinit
[17:24] <peepTV> noveu always crashes my system
[17:25] <windo> lxde is definitely quicker... still a bit slow in some tasks (had to hover over "internet" for a few seconds before the list of apps appeared)... might just need to find a quicker PC to run this on.  i do like the global-search type function on unity.  is there some method to actually browse all installed programs though?
[17:25] <Guest13786> why is creating chrooted ftp users considered insecure?
[17:25] <thakyZ> so is anyone going to help me with my issue?
[17:25] <jhutchins> Guest13786: ftp is never secure.
[17:25] <peepTV> noveu is french for noob
[17:25] <elhoir> Jake, reboot then, it will behave better
[17:25] <benzrf> help :|
[17:26] <jhutchins> !ftp
[17:26] <basiclaser> EriC^^: wow thanks :) its churning away
[17:26] <Wulframn> !patience | benzrf
[17:26] <EriC^^> basiclaser: yeah, it does that, might be a while :)
[17:26] <Guest13786> jhutchins: I know, but not speaking about that. Why specifically ftp chrooted users are considered insecure? I have vsftpd FAQ and they said there something about possibility of reading config file with ftp daemon, taking control of root filesystem, where root filesystem is user's home directory - I'm not sure if I get right.
[17:26] <squinty> Kaspi:  type   update-grub  in a terminal.  the output should show what OS's grub is finding to add to the grub menu.  also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[17:27] <k1l> benzrf: if you dont see any error pastebin it and show the link here, so others can have a look
[17:30] <rlinx> need help to copy .ko driver in a folder on Desktop to /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video
[17:31] <bytefire> Wulframn, sorry been away for a bit. here it is: http://pastebin.com/K49XJq32
[17:31] <Wulframn> bytefire: No worries, give me a moment
[17:31] <bytefire> cheers
[17:33]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[17:33] <Wulframn> bytefire: I think I see where it needs changing. Give me a moment and let me jump on my computer.
[17:33] <basiclaser> EriC^^: gonna restart D: see you in the afterlife
[17:33] <EriC^^> hehe, ok
[17:34] <thakyZ> can some one help me enable wifi on my desktop with ubuntu 14.04
[17:34] <bytefire> Wulframn, thanks, that's very helpful
[17:35] <Wulframn> bytefire: rlinx I'm waiting to get my box up. I'll help both of you in just a minute. My computer has been down for a few days and I'm working on getting it back up now.
[17:35] <carbon13> thakyZ, which wifi card?
[17:35] <Wulframn> Tech support in irc via phone is not ideal
[17:35] <rlinx> thank you
[17:35] <k1l> rlinx: in terminal "cp  /path/to/file /path/to/target"
[17:36] <bytefire> Wulframn, no worries :)
[17:36] <k1l> rlinx: use the tab-key to let the folder names be completed
[17:36] <thakyZ> carbon: it is a Realtek PCIe GBE RT8190 802.11n
[17:36] <tdn> EriC^^, it did not work as I thought....
[17:36] <rlinx> k1 thanks waiting on Wulfram not sure if that is what i need to do
[17:37] <Wulframn> rlinx: k1l is telling you exactly what you need to do. You just copy that .ko from your desktop to your modules folder and run sudo depmod
[17:37] <EriC^^> tdn: what didn't?
[17:37] <carbon13> thakyZ, and it is up and running? (lsmod | fgrep Realtek)
[17:37] <thakyZ> carbon13: hold let me check
[17:37] <rlinx> ok going to try
[17:37] <tdn> EriC^^, when I reboot, it still boots the old OS as default. update-grub from the old ubuntu did make my new ubuntu instlalation appear in the grub menu. HOWEVER, when I run update-grub from the new ubuntu, I still do not get my new ubuntu as default. I really just want to remove the old ubuntu from the menu. How to do that?
[17:38] <rlinx> do I use cp or sudo cp?
[17:38] <Wulframn> rlinx: k1l isn't going to lead you astray, you don't need to verify with me. If anyone in this room gives you bad advise fifteen people will immediately jump down their throat and let you know not to listen to them
[17:38] <rlinx> i understand
[17:38] <Wulframn> rlinx: cp first, sudo cp if the system tells you it needs permission
[17:38] <EriC^^> tdn: did you do grub-install from the new ubuntu?
[17:38] <rlinx> thank you
[17:39] <thakyZ> carbon13: no it appears to be not in there...
[17:39] <Wulframn> never just sudo first. that's how systems die
[17:40] <Wulframn> I...am going to make a cup of tea in a moment as well.
[17:40] <tdn> EriC^^, yes, I just did that. Still the old one appeared in the top of grub.
[17:40] <tdn> EriC^^, I cannot find anything about the old one in /etc/default/grub. Where do I remove it?
[17:41] <thakyZ> carbon13: but I know that it is pluged in because I have windows 8.1 running along side and it is enabled on there plus I did install it's driver on ubuntu
[17:41] <Wulframn> Ack, partition error. bytefire, it's going to be a little bit longer.
[17:41] <EriC^^> tdn: if the new grub is written to disk, then it should use the new /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:42] <rlinx> k1 from path from folder on desktop or the .ko file in the folder?
[17:42] <bytefire> Wulframn, no worries...i might have to leave in a bit
[17:42] <carbon13> thakyZ, what is the output of ls pci
[17:42] <Wulframn> bytefire: ask others too and if you don't get help I'll be here later tonight and tomorrow
[17:42] <carbon13> thakyZ, sorry output of 'lspci'
[17:42] <basiclaser> EriC^^: looking good! Thanks so much
[17:43] <usr13> !grub-customizer | tdn
[17:43] <EriC^^> basiclaser: no problem
[17:43] <thakyZ> carbon13: "ls: cannot access pci: No such file or directory"
[17:43] <usr13> tdn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[17:43] <k1l> rlinx: from any point. you specify the exact folders where its from and where its going to
[17:43] <tdn> EriC^^, yes, it appears in grub.cfg under os-prober.
[17:43] <thakyZ> carbon13: oh wait let me type in what you just said
[17:44] <EriC^^> tdn: check the entries in grub.cfg using grep -A20 ubuntu /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[17:44] <k1l> !cp | rlinx
[17:44] <bytefire> Wulframn, will do.. appreciate that :)
[17:44] <rlinx> huh?
[17:44] <Wulframn> !cp
[17:45] <carbon13> thakyZ, try this link : http://askubuntu.com/questions/53136/realtek-8190-wireless-doesnt-work
[17:45] <k1l> rlinx: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man1/cp.1.html
[17:45] <tdn> EriC^^, sure, I have found it there. But if I remove anything from grub.cfg, it will reappear when I run update-grub. How do I remove the old ubuntu so that it is not included anymore?
[17:46] <rlinx> cp /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video/home/gary/Desktop/XI100XEfile/XI100XE.ko' /
[17:46] <Thumpxr> Anyone uses refind as a boot manager? Have currently grub and want to switch because of the design..
[17:46] <k1l> rlinx: no
[17:46] <EriC^^> tdn: you can just set the new one to be default
[17:46] <rlinx> didn't copy correctly
[17:46] <reisio> Thumpxr: the design?
[17:46] <EriC^^> in /etc/default/grub
[17:47] <Thumpxr> reisio: yes.
[17:47] <Starthunder> How do I make apt-get automatically remove old kernels when it updates the kernel?
[17:47] <k1l> rlinx: the origin starts with /home/username...     the target is the path where its ment to go
[17:47] <thakyZ> carbon13: one of the lines says this: "01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8190 802.11n PCI Wireless Network Adapter" but another line says "02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02)
[17:47] <reisio> Thumpxr: what's that mean
[17:47] <thakyZ> carbon13: I did follow those steps but nothing came out of it...
[17:47] <Thumpxr> reisio: It is better to customize.
[17:48] <reisio> Thumpxr: mmm, I don't think it is
[17:48] <carbon13> thakyZ, the first line is for the wifi controller the second for your ethernet device
[17:48] <lawltoad> hey I opend a second X using xinit -- :1, but sound dosn't work ... is ther an environemntal variable I have to set?
[17:48] <tdn> EriC^^, sure but what if I really want to get rid of it? Is that not possible?
[17:48] <reisio> lawltoad: how'd you test?
[17:48] <EriC^^> tdn: i suppose you could
[17:49] <thakyZ> carbon13: that is what I figured but what do I do so I can add "WiFi" in the Network settings page because when I click the plus it doesn't show WiFi
[17:49] <tdn> EriC^^, DEFAILT=0 now. How do I know what number to change DEFAULT to in order to have my old ubuntu as default?
[17:49] <tdn> EriC^^, s/old/new/g
[17:49] <uudruid74> What's the hot-key to delete lines in gedit or any gtkTextView-based editor?  I can't line delete to work
[17:50] <EriC^^> uudruid74: ctrl+shift+backspace or ctrl+shift+delete
[17:50] <EriC^^> tdn: you have to count them in the grub.cfg
[17:51] <carbon13> thakyZ, it might be an error of the wifi driver .. I'll check on that ... wait probably an hour so .. my daughter is also requesting help for homework .. sorry mate that I can't help you out quicker
[17:51] <uudruid74> EriC^^: Thanks
[17:51] <s4my> hi everyone
[17:51] <squinty> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   all the info is there
[17:51] <tdn> EriC^^, well.. The one I want is actually the first one in grub.cfg!
[17:51] <thakyZ> carbon13: that is fine, your daughter would matter more for her future with that homework
[17:52] <tdn> EriC^^, however, when I hold shift down and reboot. It is NOT the one on top.
[17:52] <s4my> shell sock anyone oO
[17:52] <EriC^^> tdn: are you sure you did grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX ?
[17:52] <squinty> !shellshock { s4my
[17:52] <squinty> !shellshock | s4my
[17:53] <tdn> EriC^^, I will try!
[17:53] <peepTV> cheese linux
[17:53] <tdn> EriC^^, it says finished. No errors. I will reboot now.
[17:53] <EriC^^> tdn: try update-grub
[17:53] <EriC^^> won't harm
[17:54] <peepTV> >_<
[17:54] <peepTV> do it at your own risc
[17:55] <tdn> EriC^^, forgot update-grub.
[17:55] <tdn> EriC^^, grub-install --recheck /dev/sda did not seem to have any effect for now. I will try grub-update and reboot again.
[17:56] <rlinx> k1 You are telling me I need copy XI100XE.ko from (XI100Efile named folder) on desktop to /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video ?
[17:56] <Wulframn> rlinx: yes, exactly
[17:56] <mackie> I'm installing lxde from within Kubuntu 'cause reasons. I'm told I'll need to "clean up after" KDE; when I asked how I'll be going about that, I was directed here. So how do I do that?
[17:56] <k1l> rlinx: yes, and _where_ is your problem with that now?
[17:56] <Wulframn> !kubuntu | mackie
[17:57] <reisio> Wulframn: very clever...
[17:57] <mackie> Okay.
[17:57] <Wulframn> reisio: shhh!
[17:57] <richac> wow a 4th bash update
[17:57]  * mackie shrugs.
[17:57] <reisio> :p
[17:58] <tdn> EriC^^, no effect. :(
[17:58] <jParkton> ikr?
[17:58] <EriC^^> tdn: maybe you need to reinstall the grub package
[17:59] <jParkton> must be finding holes in bash after shellshock
[17:59] <EriC^^> tdn: type dpkg -l | grep grub
[17:59] <EriC^^> is there something like grub-efi-amd64-signed ?
[18:00] <rlinx> pc locked up had to reboot
[18:00] <jParkton> hammer time...
[18:00] <jParkton> :)
[18:00] <richac> wow ubuntu is really fast on the bash updates
[18:01] <_Trullo> I'm suprised they let a bug like this happen..
[18:01] <richac> well linux people are a little complacent on security lol
[18:01] <ObrienDave> no one "lets" bugs happen
[18:02] <usr13> rlinx: What are you trying to do?  (What is your problem?)
[18:02] <richac> certainly weird timing for it to come out now though
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> _Trullo  like the Japanes let the bomb happen, back in 1945?
[18:02] <ObrienDave> only recently discovered, iirc
[18:02] <reisio> _Trullo: what is it you imagine happened?
[18:02] <rlinx> had to reboot lost my terminal paths
[18:02] <reisio> nothing happened, they found a flaw and fixed it
[18:02] <Wulframn> MonkeyDust: I laughed
[18:03] <reisio> and then fixed some more just 'cause
[18:03] <richac> reisio: I imagine the redhat guy caught a teenager exploiting it
[18:03] <reisio> you know what they say about imagination
[18:03] <richac> it can become reality?
[18:03] <usr13> rlinx: What are you trying to do?  (What is your problem?)
[18:03] <ObrienDave> un-necessary FUD
[18:04] <reisio> richac: like cell phones?
[18:04] <richac> oh ya,  the NSA doesn't even use theirs
[18:04] <richac> they say they are all hacked
[18:04] <reisio> heh
[18:04] <richac> all of them
[18:04] <Wulframn>  /dev/sda won't mount, hurray!
[18:04] <pii4> the bash vuln still not patched on 12.04
[18:04] <reisio> hooray
[18:04] <richac> years ago try banks had a great episode on it
[18:04] <richac> and that is the time of fliphones lol
[18:04] <reisio> pii4: you running a server?
[18:04] <richac> its only easier now
[18:05] <pii4> yes
[18:05] <pii4> server 12.04
[18:05] <reisio> pii4: should probably fix that
[18:05] <pii4> i installed all updates
[18:05] <reisio> also you shouldn't avoid updates, that is silly
[18:05] <pii4> cd /tmp; rm -f /tmp/echo; env 'x=() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo date"; cat /tmp/echo
[18:05] <rlinx> Trying to install a video frame grabber driver  compiled for my ubuntu 14.04
[18:05] <pii4> this returns date
[18:05] <ecky--ptang-zoob> Hello guys, I have this in Gparted: http://i.imgur.com/yJNrh71.png - I want to make a new partition of 300GB but it won't let me resize. What do I need to do so I can make a new partition with another OS but still keep ubuntu?
[18:05] <reisio> pii4: 'date', or the date?
[18:05] <richac> pii4: expect a 5th patch lol
[18:05] <peepTV> this is the official support channel but that implies theres also a unofficial support channel
[18:05] <rlinx> i am told i need to copy the .ko file to /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video
[18:06] <pii4> reisio, what do you mean
[18:06] <reisio> pii4: does it return the word "date", or the current date?
[18:06] <pii4> current darte
[18:06] <tozen> ecky--ptang-zoob: unmount it first
[18:06] <pii4> current date
[18:06] <reisio> okay
[18:06] <reisio> so patch it
[18:06] <ecky--ptang-zoob> i can't unmount sda2 nor sda5
[18:06] <jParkton> I would think irc.ubuntu.org would be the official one
[18:06] <rlinx> i just about had it figured out and my pc froze and had to reboot
[18:06] <ecky--ptang-zoob> it\s disabled
[18:06] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, afaik, you can't resize luks
[18:06] <jParkton> is that really just a link to here?
[18:07] <tozen> ecky--ptang-zoob: sudo gparted?
[18:07] <EriC^^> reisio: how the heck would it return the date?
[18:07] <richac> thos no longer works for me either  ABCD='() { echo this is abcd; }’ bash -c ‘ABCD’
[18:07] <ICantLinux> Well, it seems that the latest 14.10 update has successfully killed my display. :(
[18:07] <peepTV> irc.ubuntu.org is freenode
[18:07] <reisio> EriC^^: that is the nature of the vulnerability
[18:07] <peepTV> what you are talking about is irc.spotchat.org
[18:07] <reisio> EriC^^: obviously something you wouldn't want it to do
[18:07] <ecky--ptang-zoob> No. not even with SUDO, it only lets me unmount SDA1. the boot
[18:08] <ecky--ptang-zoob> which is only 243 Mib
[18:08] <EriC^^> reisio: no i mean how would it return the date as in date ( not the word )
[18:08] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, afaik, you can't resize luks
[18:08] <k1l> ICantLinux: for support for 14.10 see #ubuntu+1 channel
[18:08] <ecky--ptang-zoob> luks?
[18:08] <richac> EriC^^: it doesn't matter,   just the word means your vulnerable
[18:08] <reisio> EriC^^: it's executing 'date'
[18:08] <ecky--ptang-zoob> So what can I do then?
[18:08] <squinty> ICantLinux:  need to joint #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 help
[18:08] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, your encryped partition
[18:08] <richac> Eric ABCD='() { echo this is abcd; }’ bash -c ‘ABCD’   this doesn't work as of latest patch
[18:08] <ObrienDave> *encrypted
[18:09] <ecky--ptang-zoob> yes it's encrypted
[18:09] <EriC^^> reisio: yeah i know that's not a nice feature
[18:09] <reisio> EriC^^: well it is, just not for web servers :)
[18:09] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, you'll have to un-crypt it first, then resize
[18:09] <EriC^^> reisio: haha :)
[18:09] <ecky--ptang-zoob> where can i uncrypt it?
[18:09] <peepTV> good by bash shell
[18:09] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: deeeeecrypt
[18:09] <jParkton> have fun with that
[18:10] <reisio> bash isn't going anywhere
[18:10] <reisio> it's long been not the most appropriate default sh
[18:10] <ObrienDave> yea, yea, DEEEEEcrypt ;P
[18:10] <ecky--ptang-zoob> will that take 5 days or so?
[18:10] <k1l> peepTV: could you reduce the offtopic in here? we got #ubuntu-offtopic for the social chit chat. thanks
[18:10] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: that would be cracking, and no more like 5 trillion :P
[18:11] <droidbuster> i have a server i pulled out of storage and have not run it in forever however nothing i do can i get it to connect to the internet, local network is fine but when i try to update, or do anything nothing happens. I am using a static IP and have put in my name servers correctly.
[18:11] <droidbuster> anybody help ?
[18:11] <richac> Dash is the default sh in ubuntu now right?
[18:11] <ecky--ptang-zoob> Eric^^ can you point me in the right direction to decrypt it?
[18:11] <reisio> richac: think so yeah
[18:11] <peepTV> you mean ati-social chit chat
[18:11] <peepTV> anti-social
[18:11] <reisio> file /bin/sh
[18:11] <k1l> peepTV: stop that. thanks
[18:11] <pii4> reisio, any idea ? any solution ?
[18:11] <reisio> pii4: ...about what?
[18:11] <jhutchins> droidbuster: Is the gateway set corrrectly?  Can you ping 8.8.8.8?  are you getting DNS?
[18:11] <ecky--ptang-zoob> I just picked to encrypt it on install
[18:12] <pii4> reisio, the not patched bash vuln in server 12.04 ?
[18:12] <richac> on my fedora KDE on default install it seems like it checks constantly throughout the day
[18:12] <droidbuster> jhutchins: yes my gateway is set correctly but i am unable to ping outside i shall try once again.
[18:12] <reisio> pii4: what's the output of 'file /bin/sh' ?
[18:12] <richac> woops sorry wrong room
[18:12] <droidbuster> jhutchins: unreachable.
[18:13] <k1l> richac: on ubuntu it checks for security updates every day, too. just run the updates and you are fine. ubuntu ships all bash updates (and other security ones)
[18:13] <jhutchins> droidbuster: Routing problem.  Double-check that gateway.
[18:13] <pii4> reisio, /bin/sh: symbolic link to `dash'
[18:13] <Eremo> it is unsafe to add few lines to ~/.bashrc , to be able to use "alias" command?
[18:13] <peepTV> try ping 2001:4860:4860::8888
[18:13] <rlinx> is this correct? cp /home/gary/Desktop/XI100XEfile/XI100XE.ko /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video
[18:13] <reisio> pii4: the real problem is what /bin/sh does, not what bash does
[18:13] <k1l> rlinx: that looks good
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Eremo  yes, .bashrc is where you put your aliases
[18:13] <rlinx> thank you
[18:13] <jhutchins> Eremo: THat's what it's for.
[18:13] <reisio> pii4: that is, if /bin/sh is bash, you have a problem
[18:14] <droidbuster> ok i will give a deeper look. it is not the end of the world i am using the last version of ubuntu which i think is the best 10/04.3
[18:14] <Eremo> !paste
[18:14] <peepTV> i suppose you should have to use past bin every time you need to refer to an ipv6 adress
[18:14] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: i've no idea about resizing an encrypted partition
[18:14] <pii4> reisio, so now i have a problem ?
[18:14] <jhutchins> droidbuster: The route command should show what the gateway is.
[18:14] <reisio> pii4: anyways, you can just get updated bash bins if you want them, no patch required
[18:14] <ecky--ptang-zoob> Why can't i just make a new partition?
[18:14] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: shouldn't it be decrypted when you login ?
[18:14] <reisio> pii4: I'm not sure you ever had a problem
[18:14] <Eremo> jhutchins even is this so simple function? can u check out? its 3 lines
[18:14] <Eremo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8442083/
[18:14] <droidbuster> jhutchins:  route command ? please refresh my memory ?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> ecky--ptang-zoob  i guess you can do that with lvm
[18:15] <ecky--ptang-zoob> It's luks
[18:15] <ecky--ptang-zoob> so I am screwed?
[18:15] <reisio> pii4: try this: sudo apt-get install -y bash
[18:15] <Eremo> and its very useful to me to say: alias agi='sudo apt-get install'
[18:15] <pii4> reisio, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[18:15] <reisio> pii4: okay how about this
[18:15] <reisio> pii4: run 'su - youruser', then try the vuln echo again
[18:16] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[18:16] <droidbuster> jhutchins: although i know i set my route in interfaces and resolv.conf my route is empty when i run the command
[18:16] <ecky--ptang-zoob> oh man so long article
[18:17] <pii4> reisio, it returns date with root and any other user
[18:17] <rlinx> YES! did a ls and the XI100XE.ko is in the /lib/modules/3.13.0-36-generic/kernel/drivers/video folder
[18:17] <rlinx> now what do I do?
[18:17] <ecky--ptang-zoob> I'll just format the whole thing and reinstall ubuntu after windows
[18:17] <reisio> pii4: I'm not talking about root
[18:17] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, that would be much easier
[18:17] <reisio> pii4: any bash you're actively using during an update will remain the old bash
[18:17] <pii4> reisio,  i can close SSH and reconnct
[18:17] <droidbuster> Which file would i correctly set the routing table in  ? for somereason it is point back at my subnet 192.168.1.0
[18:17] <ecky--ptang-zoob> problem is I can't format
[18:18] <reisio> pii4: if you like
[18:18] <ecky--ptang-zoob> how can I format while I'm running linux?
[18:18] <Eremo> EriC^^ do you think to add this to ~/.bashrc is very bad  idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8442083/
[18:18] <ObrienDave> ecky--ptang-zoob, do it from a live CD
[18:18] <EriC^^> ecky--ptang-zoob: you need a live usb
[18:18] <pii4> reisio, maybe i need to restart after installing patchs ?
[18:18] <minimalist> hi all
[18:18] <squinty> ecky--ptang-zoob:  maybe some reading time?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions  :)
[18:19] <rlinx> I ran  sudo depmod now what do I do?
[18:19] <reisio> pii4: you don't really need to, but that would do the trick
[18:19] <ecky--ptang-zoob> wtf i just formatted the encrypted drive to ntfs with gparted
[18:19] <ObrienDave> squinty, he does not want to read so much LOL
[18:19] <pii4> reisio, now im reconnected and restarted and still vulnerable
[18:19] <Basketball> acrocity, i have a hp officejet pro 8600 how can i add it as a scanner
[18:19] <squinty> ObrienDave:  heh!  seems to be a common trait for some rascals. lol
[18:20] <ObrienDave> Basketball, install hplip
[18:20] <ecky--ptang-zoob> now I can resize it
[18:20] <Basketball> ObrienDave,  now what
[18:20] <peepTV> can i change any drive from MBR to GPT? even old ide drives?
[18:20] <pii4> reisio, where i can find latest version of bash for ubuntu .deb ?
[18:21] <peepTV> can i GPT an flash drive?
[18:21] <ObrienDave> peepTV, yes, but why you would want to is beyond me
[18:21] <peepTV> why?
[18:21] <ObrienDave> GPT is only necessary for > 2TB drives
[18:21] <peepTV> isnt it obvious?
[18:21] <ecky--ptang-zoob> fuck, 2 hours remaining
[18:21] <Basketball> ObrienDave,  i installed it
[18:21] <Basketball> !language
[18:21] <ecky--ptang-zoob> gonna take a nap
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> ecky--ptang-zoob  mind your languagen please
[18:22] <peepTV> this isnt about necessity
[18:22] <peepTV> its about perfomance/reliabilty
[18:22] <reisio> pii4: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=bash
[18:22] <riobe> Can anyone help me trouble shoot why no audio would be playing through HDMI?
[18:22] <ObrienDave> ok fine
[18:22] <rlinx> I need help don't know how to finish install
[18:22] <k1l> !pm | rlinx
[18:23] <peepTV> you dont agree?
[18:23] <rlinx> i did
[18:23] <jParkton> rlinx: do you see any broken packages or errors when you run it in terminal?
[18:23] <d0lph1n98> ubuntu 14.04 seems too slow for me
[18:23] <Guest30382> hey can  someone help me understand the output of the mount command?
[18:23] <peepTV> install debian
[18:24] <rlinx> no Wulframn told me to run  sudo depmod
[18:24] <k1l> d0lph1n98: then use another desktop. like xfce or lxde
[18:24] <rlinx> and i did
[18:24] <d0lph1n98> i am using gnome-fallback
[18:24] <rlinx> I don't know what to do next
[18:24] <jParkton> try running sudo apt-get install -f
[18:24] <jhutchins> droidbuster: Did you work it out?  The gateway is usually set in the interfaces file or by network-manager.
[18:24] <fradeb> hello everybody, i need a simply advice to choose a bistro
[18:24] <peepTV> jwm is faster
[18:24] <k1l> Guest30382: "mount" lists what is mounted, where and with what options
[18:24] <jParkton> see if that has some stuff to install
[18:24] <d0lph1n98> and i always suspend my laptop rather than shutting down
[18:25] <k1l> peepTV: i thought we were clear on the non support chat
[18:25] <fradeb> i only need an adivce to choose a good bistro
[18:25] <EriC^^> Eremo: i dont see why not, it wont work though
[18:25] <k1l> fradeb: use ubuntu, since you ask in a ubuntu channel
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> fradeb  Ubuntu is said to be very neat
[18:25] <peepTV> im supporting d0lph1n98
[18:25] <ObrienDave> fradeb, try several, chose what's best for you
[18:25] <squinty> d0lph1n98:  also check your Additional Drivers
[18:25] <rlinx> anyone?
[18:26] <droidbuster> jhutchins: no it did not, but i am getting life in it instead of just getting an unreachable response i set the gateway to a different router on my network and it is now telling my next network hop 192.168.1.254
[18:26] <fradeb> obriendave can you please help me to choose... for an old little pc
[18:26] <peepTV> just be pretared to face a blanc screen
[18:26] <Guest30382> why does proc need to be mounted if it is on the same partition as sda1?
[18:26] <peepTV> if you are using mobile ATI card
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> fradeb  wrong channel, try ##linux or so
[18:26] <k1l> fradeb: for an old pc try Lubuntu. that is made lightweight for that task
[18:26] <fradeb> thank you
[18:26] <ObrienDave> fradeb, i recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[18:26] <fradeb> thanks
[18:26] <minimalist> you can trim most distros to run on old pc's
[18:26] <minimalist> just dont run gnome /kde
[18:27] <riobe> I installed kubuntu and it seems to be unable to output audio across HDMI. It can see my HDMI and volume is high for it, but I can't figure out how to get it to output to it. I've tried uninstalling alsa and pulseaudio packages, reinstalling, and doing an alsa force-restart with no luck.  Here is the result from my aplay -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441617/ Is there anything I can do to get audio to play? Or good resources to go to for help?
[18:27] <minimalist> run fluxbox
[18:27] <peepTV> just run i486 kernel
[18:27] <squinty> fradeb:  better to read such as the following  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_Linux_distribution
[18:27] <minimalist> isnt HDMI for video?
[18:27] <droidbuster> jhutchins: my network is a little nuts i have 4 routers on the network 3 of them DD-wrt modded Routers to bridge and extend my wireless signal. and the router this computer is connected to is 192.168.1.169.  but it is getting all of its DNS, DHCP, routing from the primary router but using the primary router as a dns server was not working
[18:27] <jParkton> rlinx: run sudo apt-get install -f
[18:28] <jParkton> rlinx: does that list some more things to install?
[18:28] <rlinx> looking
[18:28] <d0lph1n99> i upgraded my laptop to 8GB RAM
[18:28] <minimalist> anyone got a patch for shellsock ?
[18:28] <minimalist> shellshock
[18:29] <d0lph1n99> but still hang sometimes especially when i open chrome
[18:29] <ObrienDave> !shellshock
[18:29] <peepTV> they are still working on heartbleed :P
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> minimalist: just run updates, you'll get it
[18:29] <k1l> minimalist: just run the updates and you are fine
[18:29] <d0lph1n99> seriously ubuntu is getting worst and bloated
[18:29] <k1l> d0lph1n99: stop that
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n98: which release?
[18:29] <peepTV> agreede
[18:29] <rlinx> sudo apt-get install -f
[18:29] <rlinx> Reading package lists... Done
[18:29] <rlinx> Building dependency tree
[18:29] <peepTV> agreed
[18:29] <rlinx> Reading state information... Done
[18:29] <rlinx> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[18:29] <rlinx>   kde-l10n-engb
[18:29] <ObrienDave> d0lph1n99, you're welcome to switch distros. we won't mind
[18:30] <k1l> d0lph1n99: if you just want to rant and flame better leave this channel
[18:30] <minimalist> yup just did . and tested it too ..  the bug seems to have been fixed :P
[18:30] <d0lph1n99> ubuntu 14.04
[18:30] <rlinx> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
[18:30] <rlinx> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 17 not upgraded.
[18:30] <richac> He probably means xfce
[18:30] <d0lph1n99> i love ubuntu
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> rlinx: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[18:30] <jParkton> rlinx: no need to paste it all inhere
[18:30] <d0lph1n99> but it seems ubuntu is making itself look dumb
[18:30] <k1l> minimalist: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[18:30] <d0lph1n99> too slow
[18:30] <jParkton> rlinx: that 17 not-updated is where you need to be
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n98: what is the output of: df -h; free -m
[18:30] <k1l> d0lph1n99: last warning
[18:30] <richac> d0lph1n9: you use xfce don't ya?
[18:30] <peepTV> if your on utopic theres lots of dev flags enable thats why
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n98: please use a pastebin to host
[18:30] <d0lph1n99> i use gnome-fallback
[18:31] <ravster> hello all
[18:31] <rlinx>  I don't know what that means
[18:31] <d0lph1n99> ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[18:31] <richac> lbuntu is a real lightweight desktop,  xfce is bloated
[18:31] <jParkton> rlinx:  run sudo su
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04, 3.13.0-35-generic ... hints & tips please
[18:31] <ObrienDave> rlinx, use dist-upgrade
[18:31] <ravster> how do I make a .deb package?  I found out about checkinstall, but it doesn't seem to be updated anymore.
[18:31] <rlinx> I think I goofed
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> rlinx: its a command, removes unneeded packages, as other packages dont need them
[18:31] <minimalist> k1l, I tested exporting a fucntion with executable code
[18:31] <jParkton> rlinx: then do apt-get autoremove -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[18:31] <rlinx>  I ran those commands in the desktop folder
[18:32] <jParkton> whoa
 minimalist: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[18:32] <jParkton> thats ok
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> rlinx: the location doesnt matter
[18:32] <jParkton> any folder is fine lol
[18:32] <EriC^^> Eremo: echo "alias '$*'" >> ~/.bash_aliases , that would work
[18:32] <rlinx> not video .ko folder
[18:32] <jParkton> thats fine
[18:32] <rlinx> getting confused
[18:32] <jParkton> rlinx: just run that last one I gave
[18:32] <peepTV> cxan i run ubuntu using the vesa driver?
[18:32] <jParkton> rlinx: apt-get autoremove -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[18:33] <minimalist> 12.04
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> richac: why use a DE at all, if you want light, just use openbox :-)
[18:33] <peepTV> of every distro i tryed the ones using VESA driver worked ther fast5est
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> peepTV: yes it should run
[18:33] <rlinx> ran auto remove
[18:33] <jParkton> ok
[18:34] <jParkton> now run apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: do you have the pastebin link ?
[18:34] <d0lph1n99> they already patch the shellshock in the same day they announced it
[18:34] <jParkton> did they?
[18:34] <rlinx> which is next after perg auto remove?
[18:34] <jParkton> no rlinx
[18:34] <peepTV> i run cinamon from flash and noveu crashed X
[18:34] <jParkton> just do dist-upgrade then we can move on
[18:35] <peepTV> i couldnt even install
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> rlinx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:35] <droidbuster> jhutchins: ok the gateway is working routing IP addresses, i am getting a reply from 8.8.8.8, but just no nameservice
[18:35] <rlinx> apt-get autoremove -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y    this one?
[18:35] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: it seems the output from df -h is telling me that there are private folder that uses 34% of my disk capacity
[18:35] <jParkton> ActionParsnip: already done he has a dist-upgrade on hold
[18:35] <ObrienDave> rlinx: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:35] <jParkton> too many hands
[18:35] <peepTV> if you whant performance stay away from gtk3
[18:35] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: .Private folder
[18:35] <jParkton> rlinx: yes
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> droidbuster: run: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[18:36] <d0lph1n99> jParkton: just update and upgrade..this will patch the bug
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: probably encrypted file system
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: can you pastebin the output please?
[18:37] <jParkton> d0lph1n99: ??
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> droidbuster: then try web access.
[18:37] <peepTV> you need a ssd if you want to use efs
[18:37] <droidbuster> ActionParsnip: ok i will do
[18:37] <jParkton> rlinx: you doing ok there?
[18:37] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Vgvuvugm
[18:37] <rlinx> getting abort
[18:38] <d0lph1n99> jParkton: sorry, wrong name
[18:38] <rlinx> After this operation, 18.4 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[18:38] <rlinx> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
[18:38] <rlinx> Abort.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: and the output of: free -m
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> rlinx: try: sudo apt-get clean
[18:38] <jParkton> d0lph1n99: np :)
[18:39] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/TgumtSfp
[18:39] <jParkton> hmmm
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: wow 4Gb used...what are you running?
[18:39] <d0lph1n99> ubuntu won't let the user permanently decrypt their home folder
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: also  few hundred gigabytes used outside of $HOME
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: I dont use encrpted file systems so cannot comment
[18:41] <dcope> hey all. what's the best way to ensure an init.d start script runs at boot?
[18:41] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: i am think, after i kept suspending my laptop everytime go to work..it seems they use lots of resources
[18:41] <bekks> !upstart | dcope
[18:41] <Eremo> !find game
[18:42] <neutrino> does ubuntu run a dhcp server by default ?
[18:42] <Eremo> ops
[18:42] <Eremo> :D
[18:42] <dcope> bekks: thanks
[18:42] <bekks> neutrino: No.
[18:42] <mulga> dos
[18:42] <neutrino> how does the raspberry pi get an IP when i connect it to my laptop via ethernet cable
[18:43] <bekks> neutrino: Do you have a DHCP server installed? :)
[18:43] <neutrino> *no routers involved .. direct connection b/w pi and laptop through ethernet
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> neutrino: dhcp, like everything else
[18:43] <neutrino> no i dont ..
[18:43] <bekks> neutrino: Are you sure? Or do you just think you dont? :)
[18:43] <k1l> networkmanager is running an dhcp in that cse
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> neutrino: if you dont have a dhcp service then you will get a 165.254.0.x address
[18:44] <neutrino> hmm i think networkmanager is running it
[18:44] <bekks> s/165/169/
[18:44] <ObrienDave> neutrino, ad-hoc network, automatic crossover cable detection
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> bekks: ty
[18:44] <neutrino> oh okay that seems more likely
[18:45] <neutrino> bekks: if there is a server running shouldnt i be able to see it on nmap localhost ?
[18:45] <bekks> neutrino: Yes.
[18:45] <d0lph1n99> !df
[18:45] <d0lph1n99> !free
[18:45] <jParkton> neutrino: can you curl localhost?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: seems weird. My setup uses about 400Mb and is 4Gb in size
[18:46] <jParkton> curl http://localhost:80
[18:46] <richac> i'm trying to install oh-My-ZSH and I get this error  stdin: is not a tty
[18:46] <richac> can I just ignore it?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> richac: http://www.unixmen.com/install-oh-zsh-ubuntu-arch-linux-fedora/
[18:47] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: does the ecryptfs using a lot of resources
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: no idea, I don't use it and have no interest in it
[18:48] <neutrino> jParkton: why port 80 though ?
[18:48] <riobe> How do I switch which card/device my computer wants to output audio to? If I do `speaker-test -c 2 -r 48000 -hw:2,7` I can hear a result. That corresponds to my Nvidia_1 [HDA NVidia] card 2, device 7 from this output of `aplay -l`: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8441617/ When I open a new program though, it will not output across these speakers and I hear nothing. How can I troubleshoot this?
[18:48] <neutrino> dhcp server wont be on port 80
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> riobe: use the sound application in Dash to set the output device
[18:49] <richac> tks
[18:49] <bitblanket> anyone interested in selling some btc for MP?
[18:49] <k1l> bitblanket: not in here please.
[18:49] <bitblanket> sorry
[18:49] <bekks> neutrino: using curl with http is not going to do anything with a DHCP server.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> riobe: if you want to use hdmi audio and your motherboard has onboard sound, disable it in bios
[18:50] <riobe> That fixed it ActionParsnip, thanks a ton.
[18:50] <jParkton> oh a dhcp?
[18:50] <poseid> hi, I am trying to get my wifi to work with an lenovo e145 laptop, that is currently not on eth0
[18:51] <poseid> the brodcom driver is installed. but discovery of the ntwork does not work...
[18:51] <mauritslamers__> Hi all, I have a weird problem: I want to use a Wacom tablet, it is
[18:51] <poseid> iwconfig gives eth0 and lo no wireless extensions
[18:51] <mauritslamers__> detected, but only the
[18:52] <mauritslamers__> (I cannot seem to make a difference between backspace and enter today)
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> poseid: if you run: dmesg | grep -i firm , do you get any output?
[18:52] <d0lph1n99> ActionParsnip: after doing some reading, ecryptfs did hogging the resources and also the RAM. It seems the ecryptfs decrypt the accessed file "on the fly". So the conclusion is use ecryptfs only for certain folder not for the whole disk. Thank you.
[18:52] <mauritslamers__> so: ubuntu 14.04, Gnome 3, trying to use wacom tablet, everything works of the tablet, except the pointing
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> d0lph1n99: I see, nice find
[18:53] <freefly> guys big problem.. is there a way to recover information from deleted partition . i was doing fresh install of xubuntu and I clicked enter on "erase all and install xubuntu" and not "do something else" > I did it by mistake and after that for some reason on the next step where I chose location the system froze so I was in deep panic and I press shut down button. Now the entire disk is emty...
[18:53] <freefly> ...exept some new xubuntu folders. Is there a way to undo the mess I did and at least save my photos? they ware on ntfs windows D: partition...
[18:53] <poseid> ActionParsnip: yes firmware for ACPI BIOS drm,
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> mauritslamers__: run: lsusb , use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[18:53] <poseid> but it looks most of the things fail
[18:54] <squinty> !recover
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> freefly: easier to use your backups
[18:55] <freefly> what backups ? there are nothing on the entire disk nor boot loader
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> freefly: you may be able to get stuff using foremost. You will need a writable partition of equal or greater size than the partition to restore from
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> freefly: the backups of the photos, you did make a backup rigjt? They are important to you?
[18:55] <thakyZ> does anyone know how to get t he MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder for Rhythmbox on ubuntu 14.04
[18:55] <poseid> i installed this bcmwl-kernel-source package but not sure
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> thakyZ: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> thakyZ: will install nice codecs for you
[18:56] <ObrienDave> backups???we don't need no stinking backups ;P
[18:57] <thakyZ> ActionParsnip: I don't have internet on this computer so how do I manually install the codecs?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: sadly that is the attitude of manh, people love learning the hardest way possible
[18:57] <poseid> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers --> lspci -vnn gives the network driver
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> thakyZ: you will need a lot of deb files from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <freefly> ActionParsnip I was about to put them on external hard drive, but this happened
[18:58] <freefly> so no backups
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> poseid: which broadcom chip do you have?
[18:58] <thakyZ> ActionParsnip: I am fine with doing that if you can point me to the one for .mp3
[18:58] <poseid> it is 14e4:4359
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> freefly: so, never thought to back them up ever...I'm guessing the collection has grown over time, yes?
[18:58] <poseid> or BCM43228
[18:59] <richac> so I have zsh installed with themes and working ok it seems,   but i'm wondering should I add a certain repository to stay updated with it?
[18:59] <freefly> ActionParsnip
[18:59] <freefly> sort of...
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> freefly: like a few years....?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> freefly: and never backed them up....?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> poseid: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:01] <freefly> ActionParsnip man I rarely use Win 7... I feel bad enough so if you could suggest something it is ok, if not don't make it harder for me man !
[19:01] <iveevue> Is 14.04 an LTS release?
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> iveevue: yes
[19:01] <thakyZ> ActionParsnip: can you just give me the link to the mp3 codec .deb file
[19:02] <iveevue> ActionParsnip, Are all .04 LTS releases?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> freefly: just making you think. You have taken a really bad attitude towards your data
[19:02] <navetz> can anoyone help me figure out why my sites available wont work? http://pastebin.com/pgKfBtbi
[19:02] <navetz> sites enabled**
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> freefly: what if the drive IDE fails, no software you can install will get the data back. A cheap USB drive allows easy data recovery
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> freefly: they are also cheap. Professional data recovery can cost thousands of dollars but a cheap drive removes the need for this
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> iveevue: every other .04 is lts
[19:04] <iveevue> Ah, so the next will be 16.04?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> iveevue: 8.04, 10.04, 12.04, 14.04
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> iveevue: exactly :)
[19:04] <iveevue> And LTS releases are supported for 3 years?
[19:04] <freefly> ActionParsnip What you mean ? live installing some software on usb or what? I'm not a techie
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> freefly: try foremost, you will need a big dribe to spit files to. If speace where the drive held the data has been overwritten tnen the data is gone
[19:05] <DJones> iveevue: LTS are supported for 5 years
[19:05] <iveevue> Ok, thanks
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> freefly: buy a usb drive, copy data to it occasionally.  Nothing you can't do
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> freefly: 2 copies of the data, in case of catastrophe.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> freefly: lots of guides online for foremost. You will lose location and filenames but the files may be recovered (fully or partly)
[19:07] <freefly> ActionParsnip is it possible to  make a partition with gparted on the same drive and use foremost with liveusb on ubuntu?
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04, 3.13.0-35-generic ... hints & tips please
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> freefly: yes it will need to be a partition, if its a linux partiion now then thats fine. You will need to check if foremost can work on NTFS too.
[19:10] <SirRiffsAlot> Hey guys, my internet-icon on my panel is gone and I can't find a way to connect to a wireless now on the rare occasion I need it :(
[19:10] <SirRiffsAlot> Ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: try sudo service network-manager restart
[19:16] <peepTV> nvidia is signing the drivers so that means you can include the proprietary drivers in the live dvd?
[19:17] <bekks> peepTV: ?
[19:17] <woodefec> hi
[19:18] <bekks> peepTV: Nvidia still doesnt allow anyone else to ship them.
[19:18] <indn1234> So, hey. I set up a Ubuntu/Win7 dual boot. When I click on the windows entry in grub at boot, I get a weird jagged purple screen for some seconds, then windows boots up normaly. Any ideas?
[19:18] <peepTV> bastards
[19:18] <bekks> !language peepTV
[19:18] <peepTV> they want you to fry you card in the time it takes to download and install the blob
[19:19] <mauritslamers__> ActionParsnip: weird thing is: I tried with multiple wacom tablets, they all have the same problem, trying a different machine and they work… I also tried listening in on the event device, and nothing is coming out...
[19:19] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: when I tab network I only get "networking"
[19:19] <steve__> help!! I'm using trusty 64 bit, after a power failure, the nvidia driver seems broken because it's running open GL very slow, and most importantly, the computer can no longer detect some usb devices (flash thumb, wireless LAN). how can I fix this without reinstalling the system? I'm on a live CD now.
[19:19] <bekks> peepTV: Nonsense.
[19:19] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: Oh, it worked, but still no change, it just says stop/waiting and start/running
[19:20] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: have you enable your networking?
[19:20] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: it should restart your network-manager
[19:20] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: it is enabled, but I still don't see the icon...
[19:21] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: no idea how to connect to a wireless without it
[19:21] <dcope> with upstart, is it possible to show all the services that will start on boot?
[19:21] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: better start to use iwconfig
[19:23] <richac> hello all,  is zsh in default repositories?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> !find zsh
[19:23] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: ugh really? Where is the icon? :(
[19:23] <richac> ok so I guess that means it is,  tks Action
[19:23] <pinumbernumber> I installed kubuntu-desktop to try out KDE, but this was a mistake- KDE has spread to unity. My theme is now Oxygen, my icons are KDEs, my system bar dropdown text colours are black on black, etc etc. I tried simply purging kubuntu-desktop but neither that nor autoremove actually removes KDE packages. How do I kill KDE with fire and revert my system to the state it was in before installing it?
[19:23] <richac> exit
[19:24] <indn1234> So, hey. I set up a Ubuntu/Win7 dual boot. When I click on the windows entry in grub at boot, I get a weird jagged purple screen for some seconds, then windows boots up normaly. Any ideas?
[19:24] <suvrat> how to install .run using terminal
[19:24] <SchrodingersScat> suvrat: chmod +x .run ; ./.run
[19:24] <bekks> suvrat: Which .run? :)
[19:24] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: I don't know how to use it...
[19:24] <pinumbernumber> suvrat, try "chmod +x foo.run" then "./foo.run"
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> indn1234: it boots, why do you care what it does in between?
[19:24] <suvrat> xampp .run
[19:24] <steve__> ActionParsnip help!! I'm using trusty 64 bit, after a power failure, the nvidia driver seems broken because it's running open GL very slow, and most importantly, the computer can no longer detect some usb devices (flash thumb, wireless LAN). how can I fix this without reinstalling the system? I'm on a live CD now.
[19:24] <k1l> suvrat: omg, dont use that!
[19:25] <bekks> suvrat: Do not run it. Install apache, mysql, php and perl from the ubuntu repos.
[19:25] <k1l> suvrat: ubuntu ships already all you need from the ubuntu repos., see !lamp
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> steve__: remove the driver then reinstall it
[19:25] <indn1234> ActionParsnip: it hangs for a few seconds during the purple screen. Also, I should have confidence in the machine I use. This kind of thing makes me feel like my machine will die any moment.
[19:25] <suvrat> hey i have a assignment in xampp
[19:25] <squinty> SirRiffsAlot:  have you tried connecting via   system settings > network   should show wireless connection options
[19:25] <k1l> !xampp | suvrat
[19:26] <suvrat> wat is difference between apache and xamo
[19:26] <SirRiffsAlot> squinty: it only shows general, dns and hosts... nothing like before, I can't find the good old interface
[19:26] <suvrat> xamp
[19:26] <woodefec> After updating from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 I got a message that my graphic card is not set up correctly and that I have to configure it manually. When trying to fix it with "sudo apt-get nividia-current" I realised I lost access to this partition. It is in read-only mode.  Any idea where is the catch?
[19:26] <richac> wow zsh is cool
[19:27] <k1l> suvrat: xampp has a lot of security issue, on purpose. so we suggest to use the lamp stack from ubuntu repos.
[19:27] <steve__> SctionParsnip i dunno which driver to remove, also, I have no connection to the internet, except when I'm on live CD. is there a way to automatically fix broken packages from here? can I do it by chroot to my system?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> suvrat: xamp = X + Apache + MySQL + Php
[19:27] <squinty> SirRiffsAlot:  maybe the wireless driver isn't installed then.  might want to try installing  inxi   and then typing   inxi -Nnx  to see the current state of your wireless card/driver etc
[19:28] <suvrat> any one knows a simple command that should i run on terminal to instal xamp
[19:28] <richac> oh man I think zsh is vulnerable to bash bug?
[19:28] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: what is the output of iwconfig?
[19:28] <bekks> suvrat: you should not use xampp. Use the lamp stack from the ubuntu repos.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | suvrat
[19:28] <SirRiffsAlot> squinty: I get the pop-up message that wireless networks are available... I just can't figure out how to connect to them as I usually did, so the driver shouldn't be the problem
[19:28] <pinumbernumber> okay, doesn't look like KDE can easily be eradicated :(
[19:28] <k1l> suvrat: install the ubuntu packages apache, mysql, php etc like mentioned in the bots message/link.
[19:29] <suvrat> ok thank you guyzz ur awsum i love u all
[19:29] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: wlan0 reads: Mode: Managed Access Point: Not_Associated Power Management: on.....
[19:29] <k1l> suvrat: the "all in one" package is not for server use. please read the warnings even on their page. its careless if you set that as a server
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> pinumbernumber: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep -i kde | awk {'print $2'}`
[19:33] <jack-> still need a hint...all audio apps LOOK perfectly normal, i just don't hear anything
[19:33] <jhutchins> jack-: Are you using pulseaudio?
[19:34] <k1l> jack-: start "alsamixer" in terminal and look if its muted with MM under the bar
[19:34] <jack-> nope
[19:34] <richac> does this mean zsh is vulnerable  > x='`print test >&2`' OPTIND='pipestatus[1${(e)x}]' zsh -c :
[19:34] <pinumbernumber> ActionParsnip, thanks that looks promising! just taking a quick
[19:34] <jack-> should be plain alsa
[19:34] <jack-> thx
[19:34] <pinumbernumber> * look through the output of the backtick'd part to make sure it won't remove anything important
[19:34] <jhutchins> jack-: Then yes, use alsamixer.  Even if everything you think should be unmuted, go through and toggle mute on everything.
[19:35] <pinumbernumber> hopefully it will fix the black-on-black and other issues too
[19:35] <squinty> jack-:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alsamixer
[19:35] <suvrat> hey guyzzz my pendrive in readonly mode unable to format
[19:35] <jack-> just trying :) thx
[19:35] <pinumbernumber> people tell me that installing and removing DEs is non-destructive to other installed DEs, I guess people lie :) or KDE is just especially onerous
[19:35] <k1l> suvrat: see "dmesg" after you put it in.
[19:36] <OerHeks> richac, maybe the guys in #zsh can tell
[19:36] <suvrat> it has lot viruses
[19:36] <suvrat> it open in readonly mode
[19:36] <suvrat> any way to format
[19:36] <kostkon> suvrat, gparted should do the trick
[19:37] <kostkon> suvrat, it's an app. install it
[19:37] <pinumbernumber> couple things, it tells me about-distro* will be removed, is that okay?
[19:37] <suvrat> yes thank you guyzzz
[19:37] <squinty> suvrat:  look in menu for  Disks
[19:37] <k1l> suvrat: maybe its hardware failure. so i would start with dmesg after sticking in
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> pinumbernumber: using the metapackage isn't a great way to try a DE, installing a minimal set of the DE is a better way imho
[19:37] <woodefec> any ideas why ubuntu cannot install packages with apt-get after update from 12.04 to 14?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> pinumbernumber: eg to try XFCE, install xfce4 rather than xubuntu-desktop
[19:38] <OerHeks> woodefec, what packages?
[19:38] <carbon13> woodefec, have you checked the sources?
[19:38] <woodefec> OerHeks, nvidia drivers
[19:38] <suvrat> hey you guyzz know any website to learn developing website
[19:38] <k1l> woodefec: please run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-ger dist-upgrade" in terminal to make sure you are on the lastest updates and pastebin that please
[19:38] <poseid> ActionParsnip: I probably need 3.17 according to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices - I run 3.16 currently
[19:38] <pinumbernumber> ActionParsnip, thanks for the advice
[19:38] <suvrat> or any book
[19:38] <poseid> what would be easiest to go from 3.16 to 3.17 ?
[19:39] <Pintglass> hello im looking for a bit of advice , ive just setup ubuntu 14.04  to use as a tv server after installing my drivers for my tv installing tvheadend i had things setup ok , i then installed some updates  after witch tvheadend crashes on startup and my tv card has disapeared, how can i go about geting my tv card recognised again
[19:39] <k1l> suvrat: for general help please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:39] <woodefec> ok, k1l , I am running the command on another computer, will report the outcome
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> poseid: if you like. We cannot support those kernels here
[19:39] <d0lph1n99> This channel is the only channel that have active user or is there other?
[19:39] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: how can I connect to a wireless...?
[19:39] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: with the use of the terminal
[19:39] <felon> is there precompiled webcam programs in ubuntu 14.04
[19:39] <k1l> !alis | d0lph1n99
[19:40] <felon> for my laptop
[19:40] <k1l> felon: you mean like "cheeze"?
[19:40] <poseid> np I 'll try http://www.yourownlinux.com/2014/08/how-to-install-linux-kernel-3-17-rc3-in-linux.html
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> felon: ubuntu has cheese installed by default
[19:40] <k1l> felon: sorry, cheese is the name
[19:40] <OerHeks> poseid, if you try that, no support.
[19:40] <kostkon> ActionParsnip, not anymore
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> kostkon: booooo
[19:41] <kostkon> :(
[19:41] <felon> oh ok....for like taking selfies or something
[19:41] <k1l> poseid: i would suggest you try a mainline kernel. but its limited support
[19:41] <felon> oh ok ill check
[19:41] <k1l> !mainline | poseid
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> felon: yes, install cheese
[19:41] <jhutchins> !webcam
[19:41] <poseid> i can't get wifi working otherwise.. it is worth a try...
[19:41] <suvrat> i installed xampp thank you guyzzz but when i search it it is not found
[19:42] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: http://goo.gl/KVtJNe
[19:42] <k1l> suvrat: no xamp support. ask the xump guys
[19:42] <k1l> *xampp guys
[19:42] <suvrat> how to enter xump
[19:42] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: http://goo.gl/aQQJBC
[19:42] <k1l> suvrat: see their website where they offer support. we do not in here
[19:43] <suvrat> ok thank u k1l
[19:43] <suvrat> :)
[19:43] <carbon13> !em28xx
[19:43] <SirRiffsAlot> d0lph1n99: nvm, removed the indicator-plugin as it includes the ubuntutudio-desktop package. Cheers
[19:43] <felon> wow cheese is nice
[19:43] <poseid> ok, I will try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16.3-utopic/ firt
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> felon: great way to test if your eebcam is working
[19:44] <Basketball> ActionParsnip,  when i use the start up disk creater to make my live usb i get ha
 does anybody want me out :P
 Eww
 what eww :P
 Snake2k: ?
 nobody wants you out man... careful there are kids here and shit...
[19:44] <unopaste> Basketball you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:44] <felon> works great!
[19:45] <d0lph1n99> SirRiffsAlot: :D
[19:46] <richac> anybody here good with codes?
[19:46] <Basketball> ActionParsnip, An uncaught exception was raised:
[19:46] <Basketball> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[19:46] <felon> works great! this is just a intel i3 but nice little lenovo thinkpad edge
[19:46] <woodefec> k1l, the update is looking good now, previously it was done only with command sudo apt-get update
[19:46] <pinumbernumber> ActionParsnip, I did what you suggested and it fixed some things but others remain. I have a Kubuntu boot splash screen, for example.
[19:47] <d0lph1n99> richac: can i help you?
[19:47] <k1l> woodefec: apt-get update only gets the new package list from server. you need the apt-get (dist-)upgrade to install those updates.
[19:47] <k1l> woodefec: is this install still a problem now? if so: pastebin the output please so we can have a look
[19:48] <pinumbernumber> gonna have to reinstall, aren't I...
[19:48] <pinumbernumber> I really should get around to having a separate /home partition.
[19:48] <mauritslamers__> Sorry to ask again, but I tried all my google fu and got nothing: for some reason after updating to 14.04 my wacom doesn't point. All the buttons do work, but it just seems like it doesn't get any input from the kernel
[19:49] <Guest37247> Hello i'm newbie. can two ram memories with diffrent Bandwidth cause issues for a computer?  this is the situation : http://paste.opensuse.org/82413965
[19:49] <bekks> Guest37247: And which OS do you run?
[19:50] <mauritslamers__> it is being detected by both the kernel and the x server, xinput finds it, and settings are very similar with another wacom graphire tablet hooked on another Ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <Guest37247> I have a dual boot windows / lubuntu pc
[19:51] <bekks> Guest37247: Did you take a look at the documentation of your computer to see wether that combination is supported?
[19:51] <k1l> Guest37247: then they run the slowest speed they match. but if that makes trouble is heavily depending on the exact mainboard, rams and bios version. but this is better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[19:52] <Guest37247> This is an old whitebox pc from 2006 . it had 1gb ddr2 memory and i added another 1 gb to it. now as you can see in my info they are running with diffrent bandwidths.
[19:52] <bekks> Guest37247: Then you have to look it up in the documentation of the computer/mainboard.
[19:52] <indn1234> hey, I just bought a laptop with nothing but freeDOS installed, can i use gparted to delete ALL the existing paritions and starting installing OS's ?
[19:53] <richac> indn1234: where did you buy that?
[19:54] <richac> > x='`print weeeeeee >&2`' OPTIND='pipestatus[1${(e)x}]' zsh -c      If i don't get an error on this code does it mean zsh is vulnerable?
[19:54] <k1l> indn1234: yes you can
[19:54] <bekks> indn1234: you dont need to do that, just start the installation of Ubuntu and configure partitions as you like.
[19:54] <pinumbernumber> indn1234, yeah if there's nothing you want to keep, nuke it all and let the installer of your OS partition it
[19:54] <k1l> richac: please ask the zsh specialists on that special issues
[19:54] <Alpy> weird question, but is there a way to change the background image through the terminal?
[19:55] <indn1234> bekks: k1l  pinumbernumber : my basic concern is, will i lose the MBR if I deleted all paritions?
[19:55] <mauritslamers__> ActionParsnip: ok, found the issue: it looks like mouseemu is causing all the issues, when it is running it catches the events from the wacom driver somehow
[19:55] <indn1234> im sorry i dont know much about paritions.
[19:55] <poseid> on a sidenote that kernel upgrade was a great idea... finally my grub dual boot works out of the box!
[19:55] <bekks> indn1234: No.
[19:55] <OerHeks> Alpy, sure, but why do it the hard way?
[19:55] <k1l> indn1234: no
[19:55] <poseid> with 3.16.3
[19:55] <k1l> indn1234: the MBR is not part of the partitions
[19:56] <woodefec> k1l, thanks, all updates correct, nvidia works, you guys rule.
[19:56] <indn1234> bekks: k1l : as in, I will still be able to BOOT into whatever OS I chose to install? There isnt any rule which says the parition on the disk should not be deleted or anything like that, is gthere?
[19:56] <richac> ok well I did   env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' zsh -c 'echo hello'      and it doesn't say vulnerable
[19:56] <indn1234> just asking
[19:56] <k1l> woodefec: no problem
[19:57] <indn1234> k1l: MBR is above all the paritions, right? as in, it is written before even the first partition?
[19:57] <k1l> indn1234: no. just choose in installer of ubuntu to use all the disk. that is fine
[19:57] <k1l> indn1234: yes
[19:57] <indn1234> k1l: actually I want to dual boot ubuntu and win7, so I will configure paritions according to tht
[19:58] <pinumbernumber> indn1234, deleting partitions doesn't touch the MBR, but you're going to be replacing it anyway as part of your OS's installation process, so.
[19:58] <indn1234> currently, the parition that houses windows shows "boot", and "lba" flags in gparted. What do these mean?
[19:59] <edoceo> Hey, I've got this old Oneric box, `do-release-upgrade` is looking for precisce but not found
[19:59] <edoceo> Can I skip P and go to Q?
[20:00] <s4my_> hi
[20:00] <OerHeks> edoceo, better download the latest, as those old repos are down
[20:00] <indn1234> sorry for the barrage of questions, im just in  a hurry.
[20:00] <k1l_> edoceo: no. you need to take every release upgrade
[20:00] <MrMonkey31> indn1234: boot is a flag windows uses (through bios, I think) to identify the default boot partition; lba pertains to disks above 2 gb
[20:00] <k1l_> edoceo: only thing is a fresh install.
[20:00] <edoceo> How can I get those upgraades ? is there legacy copy ?
[20:00] <k1l_> !eol | edoceo
[20:00] <s4my_> anyone can help me with setting up metasploit
[20:01] <s4my_> how can i make metasploit connect at startup to the postgresql database
[20:01] <k1l_> !find metasploit
[20:01] <indn1234> MrMonkey31: is it safe if I have windows in the first primary partition, then 2 primary EMPTY paritions and then an extended to hold ubuntu and storage data?
[20:02] <edoceo> Ok, this will work thanks!
[20:02] <d0lph1n99> perl5 is exposed to the overflow exploit
[20:02] <d0lph1n99> perl5.20 and perl5.18
[20:02] <k1l_> indn1234: dont need an empty partition. but ubuntu is fine sitting in an extended
[20:03] <delinquentme> ubuntu on lenovo larptarps ... Im hasing issues with the suspend or hibernate working when the lid closes
[20:03] <indn1234> Basically, is it okay to have, say, the first two paritions of a disk empty, and then the next primary holding windows, then another holding ubuntu??
[20:03] <s4my_> FUCK  anyone help plz
[20:03] <indn1234> k1l_: could you please answer this one^?
[20:03] <indn1234> s4my_: don't ask to ask, just ask!
[20:04] <k1l_> indn1234: windows often is not happy sitting not in the first partition. but ubuntu will work in any partition you like
[20:04] <squinty> indn1234:  if installing windows, recommended proceedure is to install it first.  then you use gparted to make any necessary partitions after that
[20:05] <indn1234> k1l_: and going forward, it wont be a problem configuring grub to boot both?
[20:05] <k1l_> indn1234: you need to take grub. the windows bootloader doesnt work with linux
[20:05] <salvum> Does anyone have a T520?
[20:06] <OerHeks> salvum, why don't you ask your real question?
[20:07] <pinumbernumber> salvum, I have a T400 and an X200 if that helps at all?
[20:07] <squinty> salvum:  just state your problem rather than "does anyone....??"  if someone can help they will reply
[20:11] <mbah_surip> hello
[20:11] <thakyZ> carbon13: are you there?
[20:11] <mbah_surip> hello
[20:12] <mbah_surip> yes
[20:12] <mbah_surip> how are you ?
[20:12] <carbon13> thakyZ yessir
[20:12] <mbah_surip> I am newbie ubuntu
[20:12] <Basketballl> !das_boot
[20:12] <mbah_surip> you teacher me
[20:12] <Basketballl> !das
[20:12] <thakyZ> carbon13: so how do I make it so I can fix that error for my wifi card
[20:15] <excelsiora> Helping a friend install 14.04 on a laptop for dual boot with a thumbdrive. Should we partition before going through the installation dialogue or is that integrated with the wizard?
[20:16] <salvum> The reason I was asking a specific model is because im having issues with how optimus works on the T520. I have the laptop in discrete only with optimus turned off. I want to use the DVI, VGA, and laptop screen at one time. But I can only get output from the two monitors when both monitors are plugged in. If I remove the vga cable it only allows the DVI screen, If i remove the DVI it allows VGA and the laptop screen. Any ideas on how to get all three to work
[20:16] <carbon13> thakyZ, seems that only the windows driver works using ndiswrapper
[20:17] <thakyZ> carbon13, I did install the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[20:17] <pinumbernumber> excelsiora, you can handle the partitioning in the Ubuntu installer
[20:18] <pinumbernumber> salvum, it may be that your graphics card only has two clock generators. I had that problem with my 5770. Does it work if you use the integrated graphics? Or in Windows?
[20:18] <carbon13> thakyZ, well .. if you want a quick and good solution then throw your wifi card in the waste bin and get a usb device supported by ubuntu
[20:18] <pinumbernumber> (if that's the case, I'm afraid you're out of luck)
[20:19] <salvum> In windows i can use all three pinumbernumber. BTW its a Lenovo T520
[20:21] <carbon13> thakyZ, I always check on linux compatibility first before buying hardware
[20:22] <Akayllin> Hey all, anyone available to help with a networking/ssh problem?
[20:22] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: what is it?
[20:23] <thakyZ> carbon13: would ifconfig wlan0 up work?
[20:23] <Akayllin> d0lph1n99: have a minimal ubuntu server VM. checked off base and ssh server on install and set up network settings just like ive done before(had to redo the vm)
[20:25] <Akayllin> but now i cant ssh into it via putty from another computer on the lan. i cant ping the default  gateway either on the lan from the vm nor can i ping google but i can ping other computers on the lan. i can connec tto the internet though because i can sudo apt-get stuff
[20:25] <Akayllin> the other computer is able to ping the gateway fine and the ubuntu server responds to pings from it too
[20:25] <thakyZ> how do I hook my network card to wlan0?
[20:26] <carbon13> thakyZ, you must check if driver is correctly installed using ndiswrapper
[20:26] <Akayllin> ufw is enabled and allowing tcp connections from the subnet on port 22
[20:26] <thakyZ> I did check and it is and it says device is present
[20:26] <carbon13> thakyZ, type 'ndiswrapper -l'
[20:27] <thakyZ> carbon13: net819xp : Driver installed \n device (10EC:8190) present
[20:27] <carbon13> thakyZ, ok, then you can try the iwconfig wlan0
[20:27] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: can you install ssh server for the VM?
[20:27] <thakyZ> carbon13: wlan0 No such device
[20:27] <excelsiora> Akayllin: thanks!
[20:28] <iDealz> Anyone have experience with recovering a RAID array with one failed drive?  Using Mdadm.  When I boot system it loads into a initramfs prompt
[20:28] <thakyZ> see my card has wireless and ethernet
[20:28] <carbon13> then iwconfig without parameters
[20:28] <excelsiora> oops
[20:28] <excelsiora> pinumbernumber: thanks!!
[20:28] <thakyZ> carbon13: eth0 no wireless extensions \n lo no wireless exentsions
[20:29] <Akayllin> openssh-server is already installed
[20:29] <Akayllin> hence checking the ssh server option at install
[20:29] <carbon13> or try 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[20:29] <thakyZ> no output but went to new line
[20:29] <Akayllin> d0lph1n99: *
[20:30] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: can you try to disable the firewall
[20:30] <carbon13> thakyZ, the output is in /var/log/messages: 'tail /var/log/messages'
[20:30] <thakyZ> carbon13, k hold on a sec
[20:30] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: there are something which is blocking the incoming connection, i think
[20:31] <carbon13> thakyZ, copy the output into pastebin
[20:31] <bekks> carbon13: thakyZ: tail -f
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> Akayllin  i use a VM with ssh too... is ufw enabled on your guest or host?
[20:32] <thakyZ> carbon13: bekks: I don't know if this makes a difference but I am on ubuntu 14.04 but there is no file called "messages"
[20:33] <bekks> thakyZ: Yeah. Just take a look at dmesg. You should see messages regarding your actions at the end of the output.
[20:33] <Akayllin> d0lph1n99: disabling works idk why though. the rule i added was "sudo ufw allow proto tcp from xxx.xxx.0.0/24 to any port 22"
[20:33] <Akayllin> it was working before with firewall up. i need ssh access ONLY from the network not from the outside unless im going through our vpn
[20:34] <thakyZ> bekks: carbon13: ok I will upload the log to pastebin
[20:34] <Akayllin> xxx.xxx is replaced with the proper numbers of course
[20:34] <Akayllin> MonkeyDust: its on the guest
[20:34] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: are you using the same subnet?
[20:34] <Akayllin> should be
[20:34] <Akayllin> how can i pull it up
[20:35] <Akayllin> shoudl jsut be 255.255.255.0
[20:35] <bekks> Akayllin: If thats the correct subnet mask for your network, yes.
[20:35] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: what is the ip from the connecting computer?
[20:35] <thakyZ> carbon13: here you go http://pastebin.com/WdKbPGe1
[20:35] <Akayllin> how can i change my subnet
[20:36] <d0lph1n99> using ifconfig
[20:36] <Akayllin> d0lph1n99: the one im using to ssh into the guest with?
[20:36] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: yes
[20:37] <carbon13> thakyZ, ndiswrapper could not load the rtl driver: ndiswrapper (load_wrap_driver:103): couldn't load driver net819xp; check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[20:37] <Akayllin> d0lph1n99: they are both on 255.555.555.0
[20:38] <thakyZ> carbon13: ok hold for a sec
[20:38] <Akayllin> though even with firewall disabled i cannot ping google or gateway
[20:38] <darkelfjuggalo> I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and play on Linux; I am having a issue where I try to connect to a Game through Wine and everything loads correctly until I am trying to connect to the server, when I log in it says connection error, when i click the link for information it tells me my connection is not private. I have run through everything possible on my end; I went through everything on my modem with my internet provider, after we went through all of tha
[20:39] <iDealz> Anyone have experience with recovering a RAID array with one failed drive?  Using Mdadm.  When I boot system it loads into a initramfs prompt
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Akayllin  sounds like a DNS issue... can you ping 194.78.99.246
[20:40] <x_> hola
[20:40] <x_> nanobot?
[20:40] <x_> hola nanobot
[20:40] <x_> ahora si nanobot
[20:40] <nanobot_> hola!
[20:40] <x_> supongo que nadie
[20:41] <peepTV> !hola!
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:41] <d0lph1n99> what happened?
[20:41] <x_> :)
[20:41] <k1l_> x_ nanobot_ this is the english channel, so please speak english
[20:41] <nanobot_> what going on in-here? :)
[20:41] <peepTV> iHola!
[20:41] <x_> hahaha
[20:41] <x_> we want to speak spanish
[20:41] <x_> cant we?
[20:41] <x_> jajajaja
[20:41] <d0lph1n99> can i speak japanese?
[20:41] <d0lph1n99> hahaha
[20:41] <thakyZ> carbon: "Sep 27 02:20:30 nireinicana-NY591AA-ABA-p6267c loadndisdriver: \n loadndisdriver: load_driver(364): couldn't load driver net819xp" the next line was something about unknown symbole called NDIS.SYS:'NdisMIndicateReciveNetBufferLists'
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> !english
[20:42] <k1l_> x_: nanobot_ this is not the right channel to troll. so please leave. thanks
[20:42] <excelsiora> We just rebooted after dual boot install, got screen with "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'. \n Entering rescue mode... \n grub rescue>"
[20:42] <peepTV> join ubuntu-anti-social
[20:42] <iDealz> Anyone have experience with recovering a RAID array with one failed drive?  Using Mdadm.  When I boot system it loads into a initramfs prompt
[20:42] <richac> anti-social? lol
[20:43] <thakyZ> carbon13: did you see what I sent I accedently did carbon: instead of carbon13:
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> iDealz  RAID is server technology... if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server
[20:43] <Akayllin> MonkeyDust: nope
[20:43] <richac> join #ubuntu-anti-social
[20:43] <richac> woop
[20:43] <k1l_> richac: stop it.
[20:43] <richac> ?
[20:43] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: that is not DNS issue
[20:43] <iDealz> thank you Monkey Dust
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Akayllin  sure it's not a ISP issue, then?
[20:44] <carbon13> thakyZ, yes : carbon: "Sep 27 02:20:30 nireinicana-NY591AA-ABA-p6267c loadndisdriver: \n loadndisdriver: load_driver(364): couldn't load driver net819xp" the next line was something about unknown symbole called NDIS.SYS:'NdisMIndicateReciveNetBufferLists'
[20:44] <richac> I thought it was a real room
[20:44] <Akayllin> MonkeyDust: cant ping the comps from my home computer but im pretty the sysadmin set it up to not allow it as all the vms and network comps are on the school network
[20:44] <thakyZ> carbon13: kk I just wanted to make sure
[20:44] <darkelfjuggalo> Anyone inhere familiar with Recent Wine issues that say 'Your connection is not private' when trying to play a game through Wine?
[20:45] <vitimiti> Hi
[20:45] <Akayllin> MonkeyDust, d0lph1n99: ?
[20:45] <excelsiora> ALL: Not sure what to do here, We just rebooted after dual boot install, got screen with "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'. \n Entering rescue mode... \n grub rescue>"
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Akayllin  so the sysadmin is restricting you from doing things?
[20:46] <d0lph1n99> Akayllin: can you connect to the VM now? without enabling the ufw?
[20:47] <Boscop> i wanted to install ubuntu on my pentium 4 laptop with 2.6 ghz and 512mb ram, at first the usb pen drive was recognized in bios as a hard disk, i ran setup, but after that finished and i logged in, everytime i get a blank screen and only see the mouse pointer. and now the bios doesn't recognize any usb pen drives anymore. why?
[20:47] <kostkon> Boscop, 512mb is too low for ubuntu
[20:47] <squinty> excelsiora:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting  see grub rescue reference
[20:47] <Boscop> kostkon: not according to the official site
[20:47] <richac> Boscop:  I would go with Lbuntu
[20:47] <zerothis> nvclock is telling me to modify my xorg.conf to enable setting clock speeds. Is there a new way to do this or should I be xorging like it says?
[20:47] <cortexman> why can't I install emacs on Karmic
[20:47] <Boscop> kostkon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:47] <cortexman> and why are packages that used to be in Karmic no longer there
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  because Karmic is dead
[20:47] <cortexman> such as libcoin60-dev
[20:48] <cortexman> distributions do not die. i have software that requires Karmic
[20:48] <Boscop> richac: will it work with those specs on a pentium 4?
[20:48] <richac> ya thats the lightest one
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !eol | cortexman
[20:48] <Akayllin> d0lph1n98: from home no. gotta be on vpn to do half the stuff. im at home. remoting into my workstation which can load up the VMs and putty into them
[20:48] <Ben64> cortexman: actually it is very dead
[20:48] <kostkon> Boscop, those are the absolute minimum specs
[20:48] <richac> it has lxde, which si good for a p4
[20:48] <cortexman> no, actually it is not. that's why you can still download it
[20:48] <Ben64> you can still download windows 1.0, your argument is invalid
[20:48] <cortexman> karmic-only software will exist until the earth is wiped out by an asteroid
[20:48] <richac> Lbuntu would be best option for ou
[20:48] <zerothis> open source software is never dead
[20:48] <cortexman> thank you zerothis
[20:49] <Ben64> then compile everything yourself, have a nice day
[20:49] <Boscop> kostkon, richac: but if i install lubuntu, i still need to install gnome to run all the programs i need like pidgin
[20:49] <Boscop> or firefox etc
[20:49] <k1l_> cortexman: karmic is out of support. so be sure you update (or in your case reinstall) to a support release
[20:49] <richac> they will still run
[20:49] <Boscop> richac: yeah but then how come ubuntu doesn't?
[20:49] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: maybe your gateway is blocking port 22?
[20:49] <richac> Boscop: you an run firefox and pidgin on lxde
[20:50] <cortexman> man you guys are being super dense
[20:50] <cortexman> I HAVE SOFTWARE THAT REQUIRES KARMIC.
[20:50] <k1l_> Boscop: Lubuntu is the same base system but another desktop at the top.
[20:50] <cortexman> and i can't install emacs.
[20:50] <richac> Boscop:  I'm not sure what you mean that buntu doesn't?
[20:50] <Ben64> cortexman: it hit EOL over 3 years ago
[20:50] <Boscop> k1l_: yeah i know, but i'd still need to run gnome
[20:50] <k1l_> cortexman: that is a lie!
[20:50] <cortexman> nobody cares!
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  Karmic is no longer supported in this channel
[20:50] <Ben64> cortexman: nothing "requires" karmic
[20:50] <richac> Boscop:  i use pidgin and firefox myself
[20:50] <cortexman> omfg
[20:50] <bytefire> is apt built on top of dpkg?
[20:50] <Boscop> richac: how come ubuntu doesn't run?
[20:50] <bekks> cortexman: And that still doesnt magically make karmic being supported any further.
[20:50] <darkelfjuggalo> what is the public Wine Channel?
[20:50] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: your sysadmin doesn't want to establish any PAT connection
[20:50] <cortexman> take a look at this: https://grey.colorado.edu/ubuntu/dists/
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  type /topic
[20:50] <Ben64> darkelfjuggalo: !winehq
[20:50] <cortexman> that is MY apt repository
[20:50] <Ben64> darkelfjuggalo: #winehq *sorry
[20:50] <richac> Boscop: what do you mean doesn't run?
[20:51] <darkelfjuggalo> Thank you Ben64
[20:51] <Boscop> richac: after login i get a blank screen, only mouse pointer is visible
[20:51] <cortexman> k1l_ what's a lie? that i can't install emacs?
[20:51] <carbon13> cortexman, have you tried to install karmic as a virtual system
[20:51] <richac> if you only have 512mb ram,   you should try Lbuntu
[20:51] <Boscop> richac: at first tehre was a box saying "error", "report / cancel" but no info
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  you now know why you can't
[20:51] <Akayllin> im wondering if i just cant ping at all since i can still wget files i need
[20:51] <k1l_> cortexman: what software would depend "on karmic"?
[20:51] <cortexman> carbon13 i'm using the live cd in virtualbox
[20:51] <bytefire> hi channel is apt built on top of dpkg?
[20:51] <Boscop> richac: and how can i get my BIOS to detect usb pen drives again after the failed ubuntu install?
[20:52] <richac> Boscop:  was this off a live cd or usb?
[20:52] <Boscop> usb
[20:52] <cortexman> k1l_ our software was built against distribution packages for every ubuntu release since karmic. it won't run on newer releases without very heavy lifting
[20:52] <Boscop> i only have usb
[20:52] <Boscop> haven't used cds for years
[20:52] <carbon13> cortexman, ok, then you have your setup ... you won't get updates but you can safely use your software
[20:52] <richac> Boscop:  not sure what system you have?   usually its the del or f2 key
[20:52] <cortexman> carbon13 as it turns out, packages seem to have been removed
[20:52] <Boscop> richac: so before i can isntall lubuntu i need the bios to detect my usb drive
[20:52] <cortexman> check this out https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/amd64/libcoin60-dev
[20:52] <k1l_> bytefire: the kind of sit together
[20:52] <zerothis> Ben64: the rotj game _and its engine_ and  were removed from ubuntu at some point for not being updated for 30 days (or some stupid reason like than, yet we still have moria). So rotj depends on older version of ubuntu
[20:52] <richac> Boscop:  sometimes f12 is for the seperate boot options
[20:52] <Akayllin> idk ill figure it out monday but i can get most of what i need to do done with this setup. thanks MonkeyDust and d0lph1n98
[20:52] <richac> you ahve to set the bios to boot with it yes
[20:52] <Boscop> richac: no, i see all the other drives, but it doesn't list the usb drive as it used to
[20:52] <carbon13> cortexman, you can build software on your own
[20:53] <k1l_> cortexman: then tell your software guys they made a big mistake not even stick to LTS.
[20:53] <cortexman> omfg
[20:53] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: what do you means by "wget"?
[20:53] <cortexman> i AM the software guy
[20:53] <Boscop> richac: it doesn't recognize it anymore
[20:53] <cortexman> you guys are INSANELY dense
[20:53] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: is it some sort of file server?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  then you made a big mistake
[20:53] <richac> Boscop: it used to?
[20:53] <carbon13> cortexman, calm down
[20:53] <Boscop> richac: yes, when i installed ubuntu from the usb drive
[20:53] <k1l_> cortexman: and karmic lost support in 2011 (its from 2009). so you doing a very bad job there
[20:53] <Boscop> earlier today
[20:53] <cortexman> you guys could not possibly be more unhelpful
[20:53] <Boscop> richac: after that it didn't recognize any usb drives anymore
[20:53] <zerothis> cortexman: beaware, this channel is mostly nubes helping nubes (not that there's anything wrong with that)
[20:54] <k1l_> cortexman: karmic is EOL. so dont ask in here while using a that security risky system. thanks
[20:54] <richac> zerothis: yes thats true lol
[20:54] <Akayllin> d0lph1n98: wget files from the web.
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  it's because Karmic is not supported here, as in "no help offered"
[20:54] <kostkon> cortexman, then change your sources.list lines to point at old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:54] <bekks> kostkon: That doesnt make karmic being supported ;)
[20:54] <k1l_> !eol | cortexman
[20:54] <Akayllin> d0lph1n98: its minimal install so no gui. all command line. not file server but need to download packages and stuff
[20:54] <cortexman> that's a stupid policy IMHO. if the policy didn't exist you'd have people in here who have lots of experience with old versions of Ubuntu offering help instead of being jerks
[20:55] <bekks> cortexman: you accepted that policy when starting to use Ubuntu.
[20:55] <richac> Boscop:  i'm sorry I don't know what would changed in your bios
[20:55] <k1l_> cortexman: i muted you for 10minutes to let you calm down and not insult the users in here.
[20:55] <kostkon> bekks, indeed. i'm just suggesting a stop-gap solution
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> cortexman  everybody is entitled to an opinion, thank you for sharing yours with us
[20:55] <Boscop> richac: i looked at all the options
[20:55] <richac> Boscop: can you boot into another O/S an format the usb?
[20:55] <carbon13> cortexman, don't be rude ... this is not the forum for complaining
[20:55] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: i know what is wget but i don't understand how can you just wget file from that server, but thats okay
[20:55] <zerothis> cortexman: I have had limited success with adding sources from old releases, installing/updating _just what I need_, then removing to prevent collateral damage. But I have also broken my system this way.
[20:55] <richac> is there an option to hit f12 or something for a boot menu?
[20:55] <carbon13> tr0ll
[20:55] <Linnak> Do you know guys on which smartphones are compatible with ubuntu?
[20:56] <Boscop> richac: it's formatted correctly. my otehr linux laptop moutns it successfully and shows the files
[20:56] <Boscop> richac: as what should i format it?
[20:56] <Akayllin> d0lph1n98: not wget from the server wget from the web
[20:56] <Boscop> richac: is it possible to format it so it's recognized as cd?
[20:56] <richac> Boscop:  in bios there should be an option to enable external hdd maybe
[20:56] <Akayllin> d0lph1n98: idk either. ill figure it out. later
[20:56] <livingdaylight> greetings
[20:57] <richac> then change boot order,    or some bios let you hit another button for a boot menu instead of bios,  usually f12
[20:57] <Boscop> richac: no
[20:57] <d0lph1n98> Akayllin: yeah yeah, i get it already. There is something blocking your connection, maybe at the gateway
[20:57] <Boscop> richac: tehre is only f2
[20:57] <Boscop> to enter bios
[20:57] <richac> Boscop;  sorry man i'm out of ideas
[20:57] <Boscop> and change boot order tehre
[20:57] <Boscop> :(
[20:57] <livingdaylight> I want to install w64codec without installing restricted-extras and medibuntu has been continued. Can anyone tell me how we do that now?
[20:57] <richac> try a diff port? lol
[20:58] <Boscop> richac: what port
[20:58] <richac> another usb port
[20:58] <kostkon> livingdaylight, w(32|64)codecs is dead
[20:58] <richac> stick in a diff one
[20:58] <Boscop> richac: i tried
[20:58] <livingdaylight> kostkon, how do we run .wmw files (for example) now?
[20:59] <kostkon> livingdaylight, ubuntu-restricted-extras shoudl suffice
[20:59] <excelsiora> is ext2 typically used for the boot partition?
[20:59] <richac> re burn the iso
[20:59] <zerothis> livingdaylight: there's something you can install to lie to the package manager. this lets you install packages without its "dependencies". But I forget what its called
[20:59] <richac> Boscop:  if windows i use rawrite
[20:59] <zerothis> kostkon: why not just cut to the chase and say Ubuntu is dead?
[21:00] <livingdaylight> kostkon, i don't want to install entire restricted-extras because I already have components installed such as oracle's java which I wouldn't want to conflict with ice-tea. So, which component alone of that package do I need to run .wmv file?
[21:00] <kostkon> zerothis, the world has moved on, noone really needs support for old codecs
[21:00] <Boscop> richac: i used win32diskimager
[21:01] <richac> download the program rawrite and try it with that
[21:01] <carbon13> livingdaylight, you can try (s)mplayer
[21:01] <richac> *rawrite32
[21:01] <richac> Boscop:  also get the Lbuntu  ISO,  not ubuntu
[21:01] <livingdaylight> carbon13, ok, because VLC which as already been recommended I install, doesn't work on its own.
[21:02] <kostkon> livingdaylight, or install vlc or every gstreamer package you can find, -bad, -ugly, -ffmpeg etc
[21:02] <livingdaylight> zerothis, Is Ubuntu dead??
[21:02] <carbon13> smplayer works with the windows codecs, therefore should be no issue with other linux dependecies
[21:02] <bekks> excelsiora: ext2 is nowadays used for filesystems that do not need a journal necessarily.
[21:03] <carbon13> livingdaylight, zerothis has tr0lled
[21:03] <zerothis> kostkon: spoken like a Windows user. One of the advantages to Linux is running on a Commodore 64 or whatever old hardware you have, if you want to.
[21:03] <kostkon> zerothis, haven't used windows since 2005
[21:04] <carbon13> zerothis, commodore 64 won't run linux (missing mmu)
[21:04] <zerothis> kostkon: AH HA! So you admit you used to be a windows user :) That thing can cause permanent brain damage you know. Years latte you can have expectations of someinth working like windows instead of the right way
[21:04] <Guest35160> hello i installed the wrong version of teamspeak 3 server 64 bit instead of 32 and want to uninstall the 64bit service now
[21:05] <Guest35160> anyone can help me with that?
[21:05] <Guest35160> i configured the whole server to startup on boot etc
[21:05] <bekks> Guest35160: Whats wrong with 64bit?
[21:05] <Guest35160> i don't have the chipset for it on my pc
[21:05] <Guest35160> that hosts the server
[21:05] <bekks> Guest35160: Then how did you manage to install it?
[21:06] <kostkon> zerothis, i'll give you that
[21:06] <carbon13> zerothis: nothing's wrong to use windows if there's a need to do it. Or do you always use the hammer as the tools to fix things?
[21:07] <explodes> My sudo is gone
[21:07] <Basketball> bekks,  how can i make a uefi bootable flash drive with ubuntu on it
[21:08] <explodes> I'm using http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo but i don't have the option it says to go into recovery mode...
[21:08] <zerothis> carbon13: Another advantage to Linux, it can run without a great deal of things that other operating systems insist on having.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LUnix and there's two other C64 options
[21:08] <bekks> Basketball: On what?
[21:09] <k1l_> explodes: what does it mean" my sudo is gone"?
[21:09] <Basketball> bekks,  what you mean
[21:09] <johnpark> hello i'm new to ubuntu servers, but have worked in ubuntu gnome before and i'm setting up a desktop server now in my home would you guys recommend me just installing ubuntu server on it or host the server trough regular ubuntu version
[21:09] <johnpark> what would be the best to learn
[21:09] <johnpark> just install ubuntu server straight away and deal with the problems
[21:09] <thakyZ> carbon13: so is there anything you can tell me to hook my network card to wlan0
[21:09] <johnpark> or start with hosting with the regular gnome GUI
[21:10] <bekks> Basketball: "how can i make a uefi bootable flash drive with ubuntu on it" - why do you ask me in particular? :)
[21:10] <squinty> explodes:  you need to hold down the shift key to access the grub boot menu for recovery mode options
[21:10] <carbon13> thakyZ, if ndiswrapper can't load the windows driver then you're stuck
[21:10] <squinty> explodes:  while rebooting that is
[21:10] <Basketball> bekks,because you have helped me in the past
[21:11] <carbon13> zerothis,  this is a UNIX emulator, not a UNIX-like system ... the only linux-like for C-64 I know was based on a coprocessor  card (which have a mmu)
[21:12] <bekks> Basketball: I'm sorry, I had no need to deal with UEFI until now :)
[21:12] <OerHeks> Basketball, the usual fat32 usb drive with ubuntu is uefi ready.
[21:12] <Basketball> OerHeks,  so if i made the live usb on fat32 it is uefi?
[21:12] <OerHeks> Basketball, but if your pc is 32 bit, no go with uefi
[21:13] <carbon13> thakyZ, so I'm sorry mate ... looks like your card/driver is the issue. try to write realtek .. may be they have already written on a linux driver
[21:13] <OerHeks> Basketball, you don't need the usb drive to be uefi.
[21:13] <carbon13> thakyZ, it is worth a try
[21:14] <zerothis> carbon13: Linux is not a hammer like Windows is a wrench. Linux is more like a toolbox, but not only your own tools in it, but copies of all the tools. Sure Windows is like a tool box too, but evertime you reach for a tool it throws one out to use and stays shut so you can never look for a better option.
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04, 3.13.0-35-generic ... hints & tips please
[21:15]  * OerHeks noticed the 3th bash update
[21:16] <squinty> 4th
[21:17] <squinty> Installed: 4.3-7ubuntu1.4
[21:17] <johnpark> is there a possibility to change the color from the terminal in ubuntu server like the hackers terminal?
[21:17] <ikonia> johnpark: the hackers terminal ?
[21:17] <OerHeks> squinty, thanks, you are correct, i missed 1,1 and went on 1,2
[21:18] <johnpark> you know what i mean i guess
[21:18] <johnpark> like the color scheme
[21:18] <squinty> OerHeks:  :)
[21:18] <thakyZ> carbon13: Ok I will write to them and see if they write back...
[21:18] <ikonia> johnpark: you can change colour themes, sure.
[21:18] <johnpark> making it exactly tesame is possible i guess?
[21:18] <johnpark> i like it :p
[21:18] <ikonia> johnpark: but I don't know what you mean by the hackers terminal, a colour does not change any functionality
[21:18] <ikonia> what is the hackers terminal ?
[21:18] <ikonia> do you mean the film hackers ?
[21:18] <peepTV> prison orange doesnt suit you?
[21:19] <johnpark> not talking about functionality
[21:19] <johnpark> but the colors
[21:19] <ikonia> johnpark: do you mean the film hackers ?
[21:19] <johnpark> think so yes
[21:19] <squinty> old green / yellow type screens?
[21:19] <johnpark> type in google and images
[21:19] <johnpark> you will know what i mean
[21:19] <peepTV> it changes functionality of your color blind
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> !cosmetics
[21:20] <ikonia> johnpark: they all have different colour terminals, why don't you just say the colours you want
[21:21] <johnpark> let's say it different
[21:21] <johnpark> the green black matrix style command
[21:21] <tomi> Anybody know how i can change the Name in Systemsettings -> Details ? For Example: MyName OS
[21:21] <johnpark> like completely shiny green
[21:21] <ikonia> johnpark: ok, so what dekstop are you using ?
[21:21] <johnpark> ubuntu server, no desktop
[21:22] <ikonia> use setterm
[21:23] <OerHeks> !info cmatrix
[21:23] <ikonia> but this is getting pretty silly, if you're not using a desktop you should be able to a.) explain what you want clearly b.) do basic searches
[21:23] <ikonia> OerHeks: thats a screen saver
[21:23] <OerHeks> oh, my bad
[21:23] <johnpark> thankd man
[21:24] <Basketball> OerHeks,  i want to live boot on a surface
[21:24] <ikonia> johnpark: or just set PS1 enviornment carible to colours
[21:24] <OerHeks> surface 1 2 3 ?
[21:24] <johnpark> i'm kinda new to everything, basically i just set up a server and deal with everything i meet
[21:24] <johnpark> best way to learn for me
[21:24] <ikonia> doesn't look like a good way to learn
[21:24] <ikonia> you seem unable to ask clear questins or do basic searches
[21:25] <ikonia> that seems like a bad way to learn
[21:25] <ikonia> a more logical way to learn would be to use a desktop install and get to grips with the basics
[21:25] <ikonia> rather than making it too hard for you to do anything
[21:25] <johnpark> i have desktop version
[21:25] <johnpark> on my laptop
[21:25] <ikonia> then why are you using a server install ?
[21:26] <johnpark> cause i'm setting up a teamspeak 3 server on my old desktop pc in basement
[21:26] <ikonia> so use a desktop install for it
[21:26] <ikonia> why make it hard for yourself
[21:26] <johnpark> that decreases performance :(
[21:26] <ikonia> not really
[21:27] <ikonia> what is the resources on the machine ?
[21:27] <johnpark> that's what i read atleast
[21:27] <ikonia> what are the resources of the machine
[21:27] <k1l_> setterm -foreground green  # that makes the text look green in console
[21:27] <johnpark> 1s
[21:28] <[SLB]> histo, is anyone having trouble with skype 4.3 and built-in mic? i tweaked the audio with tsched=0 and at least i can hear sounds, but my mic apparently doesn't want to work with skype
[21:28] <[SLB]> *hi
[21:29] <tomi> Anybody know how i can change the System Name in Systemsettings -> Details ? For Example: MyName OS
[21:29] <ikonia> tomi: why would you want to do that
[21:29] <johnpark> ATI Radeon 9200SE, AMD Athlon Processor 2.08Ghz, 1GB RAM
[21:29] <johnpark> so not really the best
[21:29] <ikonia> tomi: you are using ubuntu, so the os is called Uubuntu
[21:29] <ikonia> johnpark: you won't have a problem running xubuntu or lubuntu on that
[21:29] <k1l_> tomi: /etc/lsb_release should be the one
[21:29] <ikonia> it will run very well
[21:30] <johnpark> so i'll just install the Xubuntu GUI now trough the server
[21:30] <johnpark> or install fresh copy
[21:31] <tomi> ikonia: i want to mod my ubuntu and i want to name it in tom os for a joke
[21:31] <ikonia> johnpark: I'd do a fresh install so you know it has everything it should
[21:31] <ikonia> tomi: poor
[21:31] <johnpark> ok
[21:31] <ikonia> tomi: if you can't work that out - you shouldn't be "modding" your os
[21:31] <johnpark> tx
[21:31] <johnpark> thx
[21:32] <tomi> ikonia: i have already modded it but i dont know how i can change the name and the pic
[21:33] <ikonia> tomi: we don't support changes to the distirbution
[21:34] <tomi> yes, but in the devel channel nobody knows it, too
[21:34] <ikonia> tomi: yes, but we don't support it
[21:35] <ikonia> so please don't ask for this sort of support - it's your distro now
[21:35] <ikonia> tomi: and they don't "not know" they are not responding, probably because it's nothing to do with ubuntu development, which is what that channel is for
[21:36] <tomi> hmm thats bad but thank you
[21:41] <mozzarella> will ubuntu 14.10 use systemd?
[21:41] <ikonia> no
[21:41] <ikonia> 14.10 discussion is in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> guys, open-gl issue, i guess... unable to load "Ubuntu" or "Classic with effects" ... also unable to run programs like Stellarium and Supertux2, that use open-gl ... Acer laptop with 12.04, 3.13.0-35-generic ... hints & tips please
[21:49] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: graphics hardware?
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  intel
[21:50] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: are you running the full Trusty HWE?
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  no, it's precise 12.04
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> ah HWE
[21:50] <daftykins> yes sir
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> not sure
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> but i guess HWE caused my laptop to heat up and shut down
[21:51] <gh0zt> Does ubuntu-14.04.01-desktop-amd64.iso (Ubuntu Desktop) also work as a LiveCD if I'm not looking to actually install it on any hard drives on the computer I'm booting it from?
[21:51] <daftykins> gh0zt: yes
[21:52] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: i think you run the update manager and it offers the HWE if you don't have it already - your version should read 12.04.5 from /etc/issue or lsb_release -a too?
[21:52] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: anywho what i'm driving at is since you've got the trusty kernel on, all of X should match up with the trusty editions too :)
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  yes, i'm not using 14.04 because of that kernel, now 12.04 is using it too, you say
[21:54] <cuddylier> Does anyone know why my load is over 130? http://puu.sh/bQntZ/451da48c82.png A box with these processes is usually at 5-6 load.
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> as you say*
[21:54] <cuddylier> This box randomly went from 5-6 to 130 and it's a recurring problem but I cannot see what to check.
[21:54] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: yep, you may well have the HWE on. i think you'd be on a 3.2.0 kernel if you were with stock precise
[21:55] <ikonia> cuddylier: err you have a massive ammount of java processes running eating your ram
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  how to turn off HWE and get back to 3.2? what packages to install?
[21:56] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: i'd only be googling i'm afraid, i'd imagine it's more about removal than anything
[21:56] <richac> wow look at all those javas
[21:56] <daftykins> cuddylier: so you host minecraft instances for people, correct?
[21:56] <cuddylier> Yep, I have 40 boxes with the same amount of processes on them
[21:56] <cuddylier> Only 1-2 boxes have this issue
[21:56] <cuddylier> They all mostly run dual L5520s
[21:56] <ikonia> right look at the size of those
[21:56] <ikonia> looks at the footprint
[21:56] <ikonia> forget the cpu
[21:57] <HeadlessTracer> hey, are there any benefits to 14.04 over say an older lts like 12.04 for the general desktop user?
[21:57] <ikonia> the cpu is 83% idle
[21:57] <cuddylier> What does idle actually mean?
[21:57] <ikonia> doing nothing
[21:57] <gh0zt> cuddylier: inactive.  away from keyboard.
[21:57] <ikonia> which means you shouldn't be running 40 servers
[21:57] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: depends on system hardware and what usages it gets
[21:57] <ikonia> if you ask that question
[21:57] <Church> HeadlessTracer: usual "longer supported" "with provided updates" bit
[21:58] <cuddylier> ikonia: Yeah lol, I have always just looked at overall load. But if it's 'idle' then surely it should be available to be used?
[21:58] <cuddylier> ikonia: As e.g. 'htop' stops working whenever the load gets this high.
[21:58] <HeadlessTracer> i see
[21:58] <cuddylier> It just shows a black screen when I do 'htop' and I have to restart the SSH session
[21:58] <ikonia> cuddylier: sorry - if you're running 40+ servers, you should have a basic grasp of resource managment
[21:58] <cuddylier> the wait time isn't high at all as well so I/O isn't an issue
[21:58] <ikonia> cuddylier: I actually don't find it funny
[21:59] <cuddylier> ikonia: I have a fairly good grasp on it but they always all worked fine so I didn't pay much attention to e.g. what idle meant.
[21:59] <Church> HeadlessTracer: that's if you use unity. If you used gnome, then imho new ubuntu's are step back, and in my eyes you'd be better off with mint mate edition.
[21:59] <ikonia> cuddylier: you've just asked "what does idle mean"
[21:59] <cuddylier> I know what the word 'idle' in general means but not in this context.
[21:59] <HeadlessTracer> hmm
[21:59] <richac> no he asked what id in top means
[22:00] <HeadlessTracer> I dont really know what I want, I could probably live with unity
[22:00] <ikonia> cuddylier: that is not a good grasp
[22:00] <ikonia> cuddylier: right, that is not a good grasp
[22:00] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: what specification is this system?
[22:00] <cuddylier> Mhm, idle is 90%+ on the boxes working fine with normal load.
[22:00] <richac> ok I was wrong
[22:01] <k1l_> HeadlessTracer: most times its better hardwaresupport
[22:01] <ikonia> cuddylier: not here to mock you, or try to say what's right or wong, but if you are running 40+ servers, you should have a basic grasp
[22:01] <cuddylier> So I'm not sure if I'm missing something major to see how the idle level is relevant?
[22:01] <HeadlessTracer> 4gb ram, core i5 3.2ghz
[22:01] <k1l_> HeadlessTracer: that is fine for ubuntu 14.04 with unity
[22:01] <richac> i'm wondering why it shows 80% idle,  but 130% in use?
[22:01] <cuddylier> ikonia: I've never had this issue until very recently with no changes so I never paid much attention to the specific things in 'top'
[22:01] <daftykins> cuddylier: i know you said they're identical, but just to confirm... the same JRE is in use across each as well, yeah?
[22:01] <cuddylier> Yes
[22:01] <cuddylier> Exact same JRE version as well
[22:02] <ikonia> cuddylier: that doesn't chang what I said
[22:02] <daftykins> which one?
[22:02] <cuddylier> It's standard across all nodes
[22:02] <ikonia> cuddylier: not paying attention is not "having a basic grasp"
[22:02] <richac> or more like 200% in the process list
[22:02] <richac> lol
[22:02] <[SLB]> what's the point of keep hitting on the grasp?
[22:02] <HeadlessTracer> i'd be using it for work mostly, web development irc some browsing. no music or video
[22:02] <richac> I don't nkow how that possible,   maybe try running htop or atop
[22:02] <ikonia> richac: it doesn't show%130 in  use
[22:02] <richac> it shows it in the process list
[22:03] <k1l_> HeadlessTracer: use 14.04. you want the more recent versions of packages then
[22:03] <ikonia> richac: where does it show %130 in use
[22:03] <richac> add it all up?
[22:03] <cuddylier> java version "1.7.0_55" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_55-b13) Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.55-b03, mixed mode)
[22:03] <ikonia> richac: which column are you adding up
[22:03] <richac> take a wild guess...
[22:03] <ikonia> volent1: no, answer the question
[22:03] <ikonia> oops
[22:03] <richac> %cpu
[22:04] <ikonia> richac: no, answer the questio, so it's clear
[22:04] <ikonia> richac: that's not how it works
[22:04] <ikonia> id you look it's idle
[22:04] <richac> it makes no sense,   maybe htop is diff
[22:04] <ikonia> it makes sense
[22:04] <cuddylier> ikonia: here is an example of a box that has the same if not more processes: http://puu.sh/bQoi7/b23152359d.png
[22:04] <cuddylier> It is only at 5 load.
[22:04] <richac> no,  it doesn't
[22:04] <richac> none at all
[22:04] <daftykins> cuddylier: "dpkg -l | grep java"
[22:05] <richac> but then again,  linux doesn't even have am monitor that shows short lived processes,  so i'm not surprised
[22:05] <daftykins> cuddylier: open or oracle?
[22:05] <ikonia> richac: what are you on about ???
[22:05] <Pici> cuddylier: no, that has 1/10th the number of processes.
[22:05] <richac> cuddylier: I don't see the diff,  still crazy looking to me lol
[22:05] <ikonia> richac: then stop talking
[22:05] <HeadlessTracer> alright, thanks for your support k1l_, daftykins, Church :)
[22:06] <ikonia> you don't appear to know how to use the tool
[22:06] <cuddylier> Both have the full page showing of 'top' with java processes.
[22:06] <cuddylier> How are you able to tell how many there is?
[22:06] <ikonia> cuddylier: look at the process count
[22:06] <richac> i use the tool all the time,  that makes no sense to me
[22:06] <ikonia> 1000+ on one
[22:06] <cuddylier> I see now..
[22:06] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: oh sorry i missed the response. are you using the CPU's on-die graphics?
[22:06] <ikonia> look at the ammount sleeping
[22:06] <richac> iknoia:  the only one that kind of shows short lived processes is atop
[22:06] <ikonia> then look at the reason they are sleeping
[22:06] <ikonia> richac: please stop talking
[22:06] <richac> and even that is bogus,  you need execsnoop or shortlived.d  which are also bogus
[22:07] <richac> cuddylier:  use htop
[22:07] <cuddylier> richac: I can't, it just shows as black
[22:07] <richac> even more strange lol
[22:07] <cuddylier> And then I have to restart the SSH session
[22:07] <cuddylier> On the box with 1000+ processes
[22:07] <ikonia> it's not starange at all
[22:07] <cuddylier> On the one with 180 htop works fine
[22:07] <ikonia> it's to be expected
[22:07] <richac> no memory?
[22:07] <[SLB]> cuddylier, try resetting htop config file
[22:07] <ikonia> if your machine is resource locked you can't do something "new"
[22:07] <richac> ikonia:  you expect a black htop?  ok...
[22:07] <Pici> iowait is likely very high
[22:07] <cuddylier> [SLB] After a reboot and low process count, htop works again
[22:07] <ikonia> what??
[22:07] <ikonia> guys - if you don't know what to do, stop suggesting random things
[22:07] <HeadlessTracer> daftykins: integrated graphics
[22:07] <ikonia> resetting config files ???
[22:08] <[SLB]> ah ok
[22:08] <ikonia> using a different tool ?
[22:08] <richac> black htops are common in ikonias world
[22:08] <ikonia> the information is there infront of you
[22:08] <richac> lol
[22:08] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: yeah, is the idea that you're on 12.04 already then? debating upgrading?
[22:08] <ikonia> richac: it's not funny - you are giving bad information, please, stop
[22:08] <richac> what bad information did I give?
[22:08] <richac> you keep throwing insults at everyone,  we are still waiting for you to help someone
[22:08] <[SLB]> whereas hitting on the grasp is a wise attitude, hm, ok.
[22:09] <OerHeks> richac, we=i, count me out please
[22:09] <Pici> cuddylier: What do you want us to do?
[22:09] <HeadlessTracer> daftykins: im moving into ubuntu from windows, and im just wondering if its like windows, where people are still using windoiws xp and older OS still has lots of community support
[22:09] <HeadlessTracer> or whether in the linux community, everyone jumps ont he latest release
[22:10] <cuddylier> Pici: It makes a lot more sense now that I see the total process count but do you know how to view where all those processes are coming from?
[22:10] <edoceo> HeadlessTracer: Ubuntu 12.04 has support planned till 2017; I'm on that version
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> brb
[22:10] <edoceo> It's a 5 year lifetime, so pretty good, and the upgrade path is painless (generally)
[22:10] <k1l_> HeadlessTracer: just make sure your ubuntu version is supported. if you dont want to upgrade that often (every 6 month) make sure you install a LTS release with 5years support, like 14.04
[22:11] <richac> cuddylier: Htop  shows you the full command line or directory,   but I dont' know why it comes out black for you
[22:11] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: ah i see. well, the general rule in Linux is that newer releases would help those with bleeding-edge hardware, such as the latest graphics cards or latest processors. if yours is a little older, it will be fine sticking with 12.04 as edoceo says above ^ it will go for another couple of years. ultimately if you have a USB flash drive i would download both and put them on the drive at the same time using YUMI from pendriv
[22:11] <edoceo> Less even upgradting from EOL Ubunto to a newer version is pretty easy, try going from XP to 8 on the same box :(
[22:11] <aewing> Hello all. I have recently reduced my ubuntu desktop installation to a headless server. My ash terminal is working full 256 color but locally I'm only getting 8
[22:11] <cuddylier> richac: My only guess is as ikonia said, there is so many processes that it can't open
[22:11] <aewing> Ssh *
[22:11] <Pici> cuddylier: look at the output of ps axjf  and/or pstree piped to less to figure out what seems to be spawning so many processes.
[22:11] <jhutchins> HeadlessTracer: Since there's no cost to go to the latest version, most people keep up-to-date.  For servers and such, it can be very nice to have the LTS.
[22:12] <cuddylier> Pici: When I do ps axjf nothing happens and ssh is just 'hung' in terms of I'm waiting for the username to show again.
[22:12] <[SLB]> bah, there now i understand where the arrogance comes from.
[22:12] <jhutchins> HeadlessTracer: You also don't have the Windows/Macintosh penalty that the newer versions won't run on older hardware - almost any distro will run on fairly old hardware, all the way back to Pentiums.
[22:12] <cuddylier> Doing any sort of searching of anything seems to not work at all
[22:13] <Pici> cuddylier: You need to wait then.  The 1000+ processes are all asking for resources and that is why your load is so high.
[22:13] <HeadlessTracer> I see, thats pretty cool then
[22:13] <cuddylier> Pici: Okay, will do
[22:13] <k1l_> [SLB]: stop that please. either you have something to contribute to the support in this channel or you leave this channel. thanks
[22:13] <HeadlessTracer> i'll try out 12.04, and if theres no issues there, then i'll stick with it until a problem presents itself :)
[22:13] <aewing> Can anyone give me any hints on how to get the local term to support 256 colors?
[22:14] <[SLB]> no k1l_ there's also the other option, either i have something i need help with. that's what this channel is for.
[22:14] <aewing> Outside of desktop.. The alt f1 console
[22:14] <jhutchins> aewing: What is the video hardware?
[22:14] <Pici> cuddylier: How long does it take for the server to get unresponsive like this?
[22:14] <aewing> M650 dual nvidias
[22:14] <jhutchins> aewing: Ah, for that you need framebuffer.
[22:14] <cuddylier> Pici: A few days after a reboot
[22:15] <aewing> jhutchins: thanks ill take a look
[22:15] <HeadlessTracer> thanks again guys, i'll be off!
[22:15] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: good plan - grab yourself an .ISO and just be sure not to use WUBI - it is an installer that runs from inside Windows, it is a seriously, seriously bad idea :)
[22:15] <daftykins> HeadlessTracer: good luck!
[22:15] <xar-> how do i tell what services are configured to start at boot in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS server?
[22:16] <HeadlessTracer> thanks for the heads up, i'll be booting from the iso burned to a disc
[22:16] <xar-> I want the Ubuntu "chkconfig" equivalent, preferably.
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  using 3.2 now, it's no different, so that was not it
[22:16] <HeadlessTracer> daftykins: take care
[22:16] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: ah ok, what exactly is happening to flag opengl?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  "flag opengl"?
[22:17] <Pici> cuddylier: something is wrong with your config if this particular server is starting up 1000+ processes and the others aren't.  looking at the process tree is slightly helpful, but I bet if you looked at whatever config is running this mess you'd probably be able to tell from that too.
[22:17] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: highlight, suggest
[22:17] <jhutchins> aewing: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+console+extended+color - lots of good results.
[22:17] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: the thing is did you fully remove the HWE if it was in use? as it's a kernel, X version and more too from my understanding
[22:17] <cuddylier> Pici: These java processes are started by Multicraft, it's running across all the machines in exactly the same way.
[22:17] <cuddylier> It's possible something is somewhere starting the processes but I can't search to see what
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  not sure what you mean, I can't load Ubuntu or Classic with effects, from LightDM, nor can I run apps that use opengl, like Stellarium ans Supertux2
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  i don't know how to remove HWE
[22:19] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: ah yes - sorry i'd just forgotten the original question :) ok let me see if i can dig up something
[22:19] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: here we are, can you pastebin the output of "hwe-support-status --verbose" ?
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  sure, but i only find how to upgrade HWE, not how to remove it Your Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) is supported until April 2017.
[22:22] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: could you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8443527/
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  i notice dri in that list, IIRC that's 3D related
[22:26] <lakitu> back some years ago upgrading kubuntu was a bad idea - is it workable now?
[22:26] <lakitu> upgrading?
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> lakitu  try it with a live usb or dvd, first
[22:26] <lakitu> what is the accepted wisdom on updgrading
[22:27] <lakitu> how do you mean?
[22:27] <lakitu> upgrade from a dvd?
[22:27] <k1l_> lakitu: the upgrades get automated testing for the standard repos.
[22:27] <lakitu> k1l_: :meaning they're good to go?
[22:27] <k1l_> lakitu: so if you dont did too much 3rd party stuff they should work very decent
[22:27] <lakitu> or what
[22:27] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: i notice it appears to be a laptop with a secondary screen plugged in via VGA. does booting with it disconnected affect whether standard unity or classic with effects works or not?
[22:27] <lakitu> ok
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  the laptop's screen is dead, black, after i spilled coffee over my laptop, the VGA is the only one working
[22:29] <jhutchins> lakitu: Upgrades work pretty well from version to version.  14.10 had a few bumps with some hardware, but they have mostly been worked out.  What are you upgrading from?
[22:29] <jhutchins> Even Red Hat has begun to support in-place upgrades.
[22:32] <lakitu> hey, i'm trying to install the ATI catalyst driver thing, & it's saying i'm missing tools but saying which - any idea?
[22:32] <lakitu> i'm now in kubuntu 14
[22:32] <lakitu> but not saying which*
[22:32] <lakitu> tools i'm missing, for the ATI catalyst
[22:33] <daftykins> lakitu: have you installed build-essential ?
[22:33] <jhutchins> !ati
[22:33] <lakitu> no, thanks
[22:33] <daftykins> lakitu: the above link should show some other dependencies that i don't know off the top of my head :)
[22:33] <lakitu> ok, thakn you
[22:33] <lakitu> thank you
[22:33] <lakitu> where do we make ubuntu suggestions?
[22:34] <lakitu> i guess maybe this is a kde suggestion actually
[22:34] <lakitu> it's a good idea, small/simple but good
[22:34] <lakitu> i'll figure it out
[22:34] <OerHeks> lakitu, you might want to join #kubuntu too
[22:34]  * lakitu works on his ati stuff
[22:34] <lakitu> ok - good idea
[22:35] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: hmm i started googling for "ubuntu 12.04 gm45 vga no unity" the first of which may be of some use, but just a guess i'm afraid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1952611
[22:40] <lakitu> fyi, installing the package build-essentials seemed to allow me to run ati - dont' knwo if that's for all kubuntu users, or something i needed because of my hardware
[22:40] <lakitu> but it seemed (so far) to work
[22:40] <lakitu> to install ati catalyst
[22:41] <lakitu> i should say
[22:41] <daftykins> lakitu: AMD's catalyst drivers compile a module to install, this requires build-essential as they are the tools essential for building :)
[22:41] <lakitu> ok
[22:41] <lakitu> should that be included?
[22:42] <daftykins> lakitu: just explaining what i suggested already :)
[23:03] <c10r0x> Hey i'm having trouble installing Ubuntu Studio, I start installing and it just freezes up on me and gives me the little Ubuntu error tone every like, 5 minutes
[23:03] <c10r0x> Any ideas?
[23:04] <reisio> c10r0x: try with the 'minimalcd' image
[23:04] <c10r0x> Okay, thanks.
[23:07] <lakitu> hey - i installed build-essential & ati catalyst
[23:07] <lakitu> & i can't get it to detect my 2nd monitor (a tv)
[23:07] <lakitu> never had troulbes before - is there a step i'm missing?
[23:07] <lakitu> maybe i could try log out / log in
[23:08] <daftykins> lakitu: did you restart X since installing? or the computer?
[23:09] <lakitu> i think so
[23:09] <lakitu> could try again
[23:09] <daftykins> lakitu: you might need to run the catalyst control panel thingy
[23:09] <lakitu> control panel thingy?
[23:10] <lakitu> i did - it didnt' detect the 2nd monitor/tv
[23:10] <lakitu> i'll screw with it, report back
[23:14] <RonWhoCares> is it possible to install ubuntu 14.04 over top of itself?
[23:14] <RonWhoCares> I have a dual boot hard drive
[23:14] <reisio> sure, but why
[23:15] <RonWhoCares> A friend of mine's infant poured a drink into her laptop computer and wrecked the hard drive
[23:15] <RonWhoCares> I am willing to put my old drive in her to keep the laptop computer going, but I am not keen to give her access to my e-mails, etc.
[23:15] <RonWhoCares> I want to wipe the hard drive clean
[23:15] <lostson> so put the harddrive in and reinstall
[23:16] <lostson> that will put a fresh install on there and your personal things will be gone
[23:16] <RonWhoCares> Can I do the install from within Ubuntu
[23:16] <RonWhoCares> or do I need to use a DVD
[23:16] <RonWhoCares> ?
[23:17] <lostson> I would use a dvd or a flash drive
[23:17] <lostson> that would be the easiest
[23:17] <RonWhoCares> is there a program that comes with Ubuntu that I can use to eject the DVD drive
[23:19] <k1l_> RonWhoCares: you can debootstrap. but that is not a task for beginners. so just grabing a usb-key or dvd and put the iso there is way faster and easier
[23:19] <RonWhoCares> ok
[23:19] <squinty> RonWhoCares:   Disks  will eject the DVD drive
[23:23] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: you could also place the .ISO into /boot and edit GRUB to have it as a boot menu item.
[23:23] <OerHeks> eject && eject -t
[23:24] <moritzs> Hey, I did a dist-upgrade and it stopped here:  "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-36-generic". It froze. I can't Ctrl+C or anything else. Should I kill it and run "apt-get -f install"?
[23:24] <teward> what package provides xrandr ?
[23:24] <k1l_> !find xrandr
[23:25] <teward> k1l_: thanks
[23:26] <daftykins> teward: for future reference, "apt-cache search <something>" will let you search for packages
[23:26] <esde> i created an encrypted volume following this guide, http://xmodulo.com/how-to-create-encrypted-disk-partition-on-linux.html is it possible to remove the initial passphrase now that a keyfile is being used, without knowing the initial passphrase? I never jotted it down, thinking the keyfile would completely replace the passphrase :/
[23:27] <teward> daftykins: i know that command, i got 50 pages of results
[23:27] <daftykins> teward: lol, ok sorry
[23:27] <kevin> hello
[23:28] <Guest23504> im trying to install no-ip with commands but getting error 127
[23:28] <Guest23504> anyone know how to fix
[23:28] <daftykins> Guest23504: you want an IP updater? last i saw it was actually noip2 i think
[23:28] <Guest23504> ye
[23:28] <Guest23504> trying to install no-ip2
[23:28] <Guest23504> but getting error127
[23:28] <daftykins> !info noip2
[23:29] <daftykins> !info no-ip2
[23:29] <daftykins> !find noip
[23:29] <Guest23504> im using lubuntu
[23:29] <k1l_> !paste | Guest23504 ut all the output there
[23:29] <Guest23504> sec
[23:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info inadyn
[23:30] <Guest23504> just one thing
[23:30] <[SLB]> use noip2 from their website
[23:30] <Guest23504> if you installed a tar file and want to do a fresh install from a tar file what commands do you need
[23:31] <Guest23504> like if you extracted it already
[23:31] <daftykins> Guest23504: if this is what you're installing via, you need to follow *their* install guide
[23:31] <daftykins> we do not assist with third party software, typically
[23:31] <k1l_> Guest23504: what? i thought you were installing via official ubuntu repos.
[23:31] <skeptic> stupid mistake installing ubuntu when partitioning didn't notice vepartitioned ext hdd- how do I fix this to boot to C drive
[23:31] <Guest23504> no trough no ip site
[23:31] <Guest23504> i installed the tar file
[23:32] <[SLB]> you mean you compiled it?
[23:33] <OerHeks> nano README.FIRST 12.8 kb
[23:33] <Guest23504> want to untar
[23:33] <[SLB]> http://www.noip.com/support/knowledgebase/installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client/
[23:33] <Guest23504> to try a fresh install
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> tar xzf
[23:34] <Guest23504> tar xzf filename?
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> try it
[23:35] <lakitu> i installed ati catalyst display utility (after build-essential) but it won't detect my 2nd monitor (a tv from vga on the laptop to hdmi on the tv)
[23:35] <lakitu> how can i detect my 2nd monitor from my current situatino?
[23:35] <lakitu> situation*
[23:35] <[SLB]> did you read that page Guest23504? it's all written there
[23:35] <[SLB]> also noip2 seems to be in the repos as well http://www.noip.com/support/knowledgebase/installing-the-linux-dynamic-update-client-on-ubuntu/
[23:36] <k1l_> lakitu: what?
[23:36] <daftykins> lakitu: is it HDMI?
[23:36] <lakitu> k1l_: how can i get ati catalayst  to   detect   my second monitor?
[23:36] <lakitu> vga -> hdmi
[23:36] <k1l_> lakitu: what is it? one tv at vga and another at hdmi?
[23:36] <daftykins> lakitu: really? VGA output on the computer end, then converted?
[23:37] <lakitu> yes dafty
[23:37] <daftykins> eww.
[23:37] <daftykins> lakitu: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:37] <lakitu> all i got
[23:37] <k1l_> depends on what the converter is found as
[23:38] <daftykins> yeah you typically do not see that conversion done
[23:38] <daftykins> nor would i desire to try...
[23:38] <k1l_> lakitu: so its vga->hdmi-converter->tv? and the other is the laptop screen?
[23:38] <lakitu> yes, sorry
[23:39] <lakitu> to leave you hagning
[23:39] <lakitu> hanging*
[23:39] <Guest23504> whats the command to remove a file from a directory to thrash in ubuntu?
[23:39] <lakitu> isn't it rm?
[23:39] <RonWhoCares> moritzs: How do I edit grub
[23:39] <lakitu> Guest23504
[23:39] <daftykins> Guest23504: 'rm file' will permanently delete 'file'
[23:40] <lakitu> oh
[23:40] <lakitu> nevermind
[23:40] <Guest23504> thats kinda what im looking for
[23:40] <k1l_> well, use "mv" to rename it
[23:40] <Guest23504> thanks
[23:40] <OerHeks> select file and press del
[23:42] <lakitu> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/9r14UT0x
[23:42] <lakitu> i'm gonna eat some steak fries, i'll be sort of around, but more around in a bit
[23:45] <lakitu> alright it's not that hard to eat fries & chat, i'm still here =)
[23:45] <daftykins> lakitu: are you sure the cable is in? is the TV off? :)
[23:45] <daftykins> lakitu: check out lines 553-555
[23:46] <lakitu> hold on, i had it on, but apparently it's offa gain. i'll re-verify it doesn't work with the tv on
[23:46] <lakitu> bb
[23:48] <Aziroshin> Hello. :o
[23:49] <daftykins> hi
[23:49] <Aziroshin> When after debootstrapping of Trusty I get a 142MB directory without an apt-get binary, what could be the possible causes?
[23:50] <lakitu> daftykins, k1l_, et al: restarted ensuring the tv was on, set to hdmi 1 on input selector, & still isn't detecting in amd catalyst
[23:50] <lakitu> control panel
[23:50] <sean__> Hi, I have a question on edubuntu.. I am new to linux, and am a little lost.
[23:50] <lakitu> cable is as snug as i can get it
[23:50] <daftykins> sean__: ask away with detail on one line
[23:51] <daftykins> lakitu: what was different when you said it did work?
[23:51] <lakitu> that was on a different (older) kubuntu install
[23:51] <sean__> Ok.  I just installed edubuntu, and I cant seem to find the installed educational applications.
[23:51] <lakitu> several in fact, always got it working without help
[23:51] <lakitu> maybe it's this cable
[23:51] <lakitu> let me try a different cable
[23:52] <lakitu> (*goes to look for probably the next 3 hours for an hdmi cable*)
[23:52] <daftykins> lakitu: can you provide any further info about this conversion box in between? it's mains powered presumably?
[23:53] <lakitu> not a conversion box, converesion cable
[23:53] <lakitu> if we're talking about the same thing
[23:53] <lakitu> vga to hdmi cable
[23:53] <lakitu> understand i won't get audio
[23:54] <sean__> Are the applications something I have to search for, or is there  a folder with all the educational apps?
[23:54] <cake2> hi
[23:54] <cake2> how do i install torbrowser on ubuntu?
[23:55] <OerHeks> sean__, gcompris ? https://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots
[23:55] <Seonfr> So I want to install multiple linux operating systems, but I don't want one to be my main one, which if I remove, the others break because grub's on it. What should I do?  Separate /boot or separate /boot/grub?
[23:55] <Basketball> how do i change the mac address and ip address in a virtual box
[23:55] <cake2> basketball
[23:55] <k1l_> !tor | cake2
[23:56] <OerHeks> sean__, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/AppGuide
[23:56] <daftykins> sean__: this should help https://www.edubuntu.org/screenshots
[23:56] <Basketball> yes cake2
[23:56] <daftykins> oops OerHeks beat me to it (:
[23:56] <cake2> nvm
[23:56] <daftykins> Basketball: ask in virtualbox's channel
[23:56] <daftykins> Basketball: however here's a clue... edit the VM.
[23:57] <sean__> Thanks guys..  I will check it out, I have been using Windows for so long.
[23:57] <Basketball> daftykins, ??
[23:58] <daftykins> Basketball: you need to add words to your question marks so i know what you're asking
[23:58] <Basketball> daftykins,  how do i edit the vm
[23:58] <lakitu> dafty: any more ideas?
[23:59] <OerHeks> Basketball, stop the vm, and go into virtualbox and edit the settings
[23:59] <OerHeks> easy
[23:59] <daftykins> lakitu: maybe different catalyst versions, the X log from before is definitely saying it's seeing nothing connected to the VGA port