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vadiI'm a developer - is it possible to get access to errors on errors.ubuntu.com for my application?00:09
* ahoneybun has access but does not know why00:15
ahoneybunIt might be because I am a Ubuntu member00:17
Akiva-Mobileahoneybun, ah sorry; every so often some kids stop me to teach them a bit of piano00:18
Akiva-MobileHappy to hear about your first app.00:19
ahoneybunAkiva-Mobile, its ok00:19
ahoneybunAkiva-Mobile, it is a basic app but something lol00:19
Akiva-Mobileyep; our first ones always are00:20
ahoneybunjust wish I could the click package to work00:20
Akiva-Mobileyah; you might want to give the development team some feedback on that00:20
Akiva-MobileI am not exactly sure how it works either.00:20
ahoneybunAkiva-Mobile, I just saw that the Kernel devs put 3.16.3 into the kernel with 14.1000:21
* ahoneybun wishes he know who to report his problem too00:21
* Akiva-Mobile yells at guake 00:21
ahoneybunlo00:21
ahoneybunXD00:22
* ahoneybun yells at mhall119, popey (only people he knows)00:23
Akiva-Mobilethey are probably not working atm. its sunday for them afaik00:23
ahayzen_ahoneybun, o/00:24
ahoneybunnot mhall11900:24
ahoneybunahayzen_, \o00:25
ahoneybunhe is in the same timezone as me00:25
ahayzen_ahoneybun, the fact the templates don't pass shows probably something with the actual review tool00:25
ahoneybunyea ahayzen_00:25
ahayzen_ahoneybun, but u actually get a .click its just ur on a read-only image so.... yeah...u could go write but i thought there was a way for it to work without00:25
ahayzen_ahoneybun, and p opey is in the same timezone as me and it is 0125am on sunday00:26
ahoneybunahayzen_, I want to r/w mode to set my APN for mobile data to darn work as well00:26
ahayzen_ahoneybun, ah right well try $ phablet-config writable-image00:27
ahayzen_ahoneybun, just don't complain at me if bad things happen ;)00:27
ahoneybunahayzen_, do that when I'm shelled in?00:27
ahayzen_ahoneybun, that is from ur main machine00:27
ahayzen_ahoneybun, there are a a set of tools phablet-abc ... eg phablet-shell phablet-screenshot etc00:28
ahayzen_ahoneybun, come from the package phablet-tools00:28
ahoneybunwell it rebooted00:29
ahoneybunnot sure how to tell if it worked00:29
ahayzen_ahoneybun, try and write something! aha00:29
* ahoneybun looks for that page about APN setting00:29
ahayzen_ahoneybun, oh ur qtcreator should say "has writeable image" with a tick next to it00:29
ahayzen_ahoneybun, under devices->builder00:30
ahoneybunit worked!00:30
ahayzen_\o/00:30
ahoneybunnice00:30
ahoneybunmy mobile data was the only reason I went back to android for a bit00:30
ahoneybunI can write to it!00:34
ahayzen_yey00:34
ahoneybunI love that I can sudo reboot my phone!00:35
ahoneybunnow to see if it works lol00:35
ahoneybunit is booting00:35
ahoneybunif the mobile data works I would kiss you lol00:35
* ahayzen_ hides lol00:36
ahoneybununderstandable lol00:36
ahoneybunnope00:37
ahayzen_:/00:37
* ahoneybun looks at page again00:37
ahoneybunit went back to stock00:38
ahoneybunin the APN settings00:38
ahayzen_magic00:39
ahoneybunI lost power00:41
ahoneybunand now this bash: phablet-config: command not found00:42
ahoneybunnvm00:42
* ahoneybun trys again00:42
ahayzen_ahoneybun, you run phablet-config on the pc not the device00:43
ahoneybunyea trying00:43
ahoneybunnow it is doing noting00:44
ahoneybunnothing00:44
ahayzen_ahoneybun, because it already is a writeable image? as u made it one earlier?00:44
ahoneybunyea but I could not save my changes to the file for apn00:44
ahayzen_ahoneybun, how were you trying to change them?00:45
ahoneybunnano00:45
ahayzen_ahoneybun, u'll likely need $ sudo nano00:45
ahoneybunyep00:45
ahayzen_ahoneybun, which bug report is it that you are looking at anyway?00:46
ahoneybunwell I'm looking at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/Tips#Add_APN_Settings00:46
ahoneybunok I made the changes00:47
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ahoneybunnothing00:49
ahoneybunit keeps rewriting it back to stock settings00:50
ahayzen_ahoneybun, i guess when it restarts it overwrites it or something?00:51
ahayzen_ahoneybun, probably best to speak to some ofono people in the week00:51
ahoneybunyea but it says to reboot the phone00:51
ahoneybunyea I don;t know who they are00:52
ahoneybunbrb00:52
* ahoneybun flys in00:55
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IbrahimAhmm in my html5 app, i made two tabs, now when i click on the heading thing it shows the second tab and takes me there but then i cant get back to the main tab01:07
IbrahimAnot sure what the deal is01:08
IbrahimAalso, is there a way to change tabs programmatically?01:08
IbrahimAi dont even seem to have a back button01:08
ahayzen_IbrahimA, if your just switching tabs surely u would go back in the same way you got there?01:09
ahayzen_IbrahimA, the back button only appears when you push pages onto the stack (in QML at least)01:09
IbrahimAin html5 there are two methods of navigation, tab based and pagestack, as far as i know01:10
ahayzen_IbrahimA, yeah the same in QML... we usually mix them together01:10
IbrahimAi thought the tab thing would be simpler because this is kind of a throwaway thing but i dont understand how it works01:11
IbrahimAso like01:11
IbrahimAmy app starts with "AppName >" at the top01:11
IbrahimAif i click on the > it shows me the other tabs01:11
IbrahimAbut then when i go to the other tabs clicking on the title thing doesnt show the tab list again01:11
ahayzen_hmm that doesn't sound right01:12
IbrahimAhmm, it seems like the tab list is a positional thing, so now i made 3 tabs and when i go to the middle tab and then go up to the top i can see the third tab01:13
IbrahimAbut not hte first01:13
IbrahimAi.e. i cant go back01:13
IbrahimAi wonder if this is a touch interface thing, like would i swipe to go back or something?01:14
IbrahimAthe only reason im doing this is because i wanted to make a desktop app but i've never used gtk or qt and i've done a bit of web dev so i figured html5 would be the easiest way to go01:14
ahayzen_IbrahimA, weird i guess you need to find someone that does html5 apps as i don't know how they work sorry :/01:14
IbrahimA:/01:14
ahayzen_IbrahimA, QML isn't that tricky it is basically javascript/css syntax anyway lol01:15
IbrahimAhmm01:15
ahayzen_IbrahimA, there are some tabbed examples here if u are interested in QML  https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Tabs/01:15
ahayzen_IbrahimA, but even if you choose QML you should probably chase someone up with that HTML5 issue as that doesn't sound right01:16
IbrahimAit's quite possible i did something wrong but i cant imagine what01:18
IbrahimAi guess i should spin up a new project and just try to make three tabs and see what happens01:18
ahayzen_IbrahimA, you've seen the docs right (just checking)? http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/html5/sdk-14.10/UbuntuUI.Tabs/01:18
IbrahimAyeah, the docs are kind of useless lol01:18
ahayzen_heh01:19
IbrahimAi cant figure out how you would programmatically change tabs, that seems like an obvious thing01:19
* ahayzen_ wonders if u can even do that in QML as the property is read-only according to the docs01:20
ahayzen_IbrahimA, i can do tabs.selectedTabIndex = 1 to switch to that index in QML so maybe an equivalent in HTML501:22
IbrahimAah ok01:22
ahoneybunhttp://www.softpedia.com/reviews/linux/Ubuntu-Touch-Review-459511.shtml01:26
IbrahimAaha, it does work, thanks!01:27
IbrahimAleaky abstractions ftw01:27
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* ahoneybun really likes QML02:53
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, heh03:07
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, APL is better :P03:07
ahoneybunAkiva-Thinkpad, APL?03:11
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, yah, a programming language03:11
ahoneybunwell QML is C++ no?03:11
Akiva-ThinkpadQML is QML03:12
Akiva-ThinkpadAPL - literally stands for - A Programming Language03:13
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IbrahimAis there a way to show notifications in ubuntu sdk apps? (html5 preferably)03:23
IbrahimAexcept this is a desktop app, but i imagine the same thing would work across desktop or mobile03:24
IbrahimAbasically i just want something like notify-send except maybe a little more useful03:24
IbrahimAlike, perhaps something with actionable notifications like android has (can click on a button in the notification to do something)03:25
IbrahimAAPL: because who doesn't want to write code like03:26
IbrahimAlife←{↑1 ⍵∨.∧3 4=+/,¯1 0 1∘.⊖¯1 0 1∘.⌽⊂⍵}03:26
Akiva-ThinkpadIbrahimA, thats like 5000 lines of java right there03:28
Akiva-Thinkpad:)03:28
IbrahimAprobably03:28
Akiva-Thinkpadlol03:28
Akiva-Thinkpadnot even kidding its funny03:28
Akiva-ThinkpadI think thats why a lot of businesses like java; it makes them feel productive given all the code they have to write.03:29
* ahoneybun started a blog to get into planet.ubuntu.com03:43
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, ah very cool04:05
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* ahoneybun was thinking of taking a GoPro to a FOSS Con11:35
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justcarakashello13:08
justcarakasCan someone help me with the actions in the header ?13:08
ahoneybunjustcarakas, I'm not to familiar with it13:10
justcarakasI get the error could not resolve UnityActions,Action13:11
ahoneybunjust did not want you to feel that no one is listening :)13:11
justcarakashehe thx:)13:11
ahoneybunI know I would not want that feeling XD13:11
justcarakastrue that :)13:11
justcarakasI gues finding help on a sunday is not as easy as finding it on a weekday :p13:12
ahoneybunyea kinda13:12
ahoneybunI know popey is at XDA DevCon13:13
justcarakasto bad, I was first making my app in html5 but when I tried it out it was too slow13:18
justcarakasso I desided to give qml a try13:18
ahayzenjustcarakas, IIRC UnityActions don't exist anymore you should just use Action ... let me see if i can find the mail13:21
justcarakaswell I'm trying this atm13:21
justcarakas    Page {13:21
justcarakas        title: i18n.tr("Kamisado")13:21
justcarakas        id: page13:21
justcarakas        head.actions: [13:21
justcarakas            Action {13:21
justcarakas                iconName: "add"13:21
justcarakas                text: i18n.tr("Search")13:21
justcarakas            }13:21
justcarakas        ]13:21
justcarakas        Board{}13:21
ahayzenjustcarakas, this was the email https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg09721.html13:21
justcarakas    }13:21
justcarakasbut it doesn't work13:21
justcarakasCannot assign to non-existent property "head"13:21
ahayzenjustcarakas, ok let me check what we do...13:22
ahayzenjustcarakas, hmm that should work mind pastebin'ing the file? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13:23
justcarakashttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8447740/13:24
ahoneybunmorning ahayzen13:26
ahayzenahoneybun, o/ 'morning'13:26
ahoneybunmorning here anyway 9:30am13:27
justcarakasany idea ahayzen ?13:27
ahayzenjustcarakas, strange thats what the docs say todo https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Page/13:27
justcarakasI know :s13:27
ahayzenahoneybun, 1430 here...but i only just got  up :P13:27
justcarakasi got it from there13:27
ahayzenjustcarakas, let me check what some of the coreapps that use it do...13:28
justcarakasis it possible that I need to install something on my laptop ?13:28
justcarakasI have the sdk13:28
ahayzenjustcarakas, ah PageHeadState {}13:29
ahoneybunahayzen, I tested building a app with the default settings and it still crashed, so I mailed the mailing list13:29
ahayzenjustcarakas, but that was for doing more advanced things i thought...13:29
ahayzenjustcarakas, hang on we have an 'Add' action in music app what do we do lol...13:29
ahayzenjustcarakas, heh we do http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8447769/13:30
ahayzenjustcarakas, you just want a button in the header right?13:30
justcarakasjup13:30
ahayzenjustcarakas, ^^ is how we do it...but that looks legacy..but it works aha13:31
justcarakasit works indeed13:31
ahayzenjustcarakas, docs are here https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.ToolbarItems/13:31
ahayzenjustcarakas, you could check with t1mp if that is the correct way of doing it when he is about13:32
justcarakasoki I will, thanks for helping me otu13:32
justcarakasout13:32
ahayzenjustcarakas, no problem13:32
ahayzenjustcarakas, you can see clock uses PageHeadState for the add alarm header button http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/app/alarm/AlarmPage.qml#L3313:33
ahoneybunwait does the clock get synced with the desktop too 0.o13:40
justcarakasany Idea where I can find the provided icons ?13:42
ahoneybunjustcarakas, icons for ubuntu touch?13:42
justcarakasuhu13:42
ahoneybun?13:42
justcarakasyes13:42
justcarakaswhere I can find what else is provided next to that add icon13:43
ahoneybunjustcarakas, /usr/share/icons/suru13:43
justcarakasthx13:43
ahoneybunnp13:43
* ahoneybun saw that somewhere on the docs 13:44
DanChapman_justcarakas: it's odd your approach using head.actions isn't working. I use it exactly the same way in dekko without issue http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/dekko/trunk-1/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/qml/AccountsView/AccountsPage.qml13:44
ahoneybunI don't remember though13:44
* ahoneybun gives a shout out to DanChapman_ for his cool email client13:44
* justcarakas joins the shout out13:45
justcarakasis it posible that I need to add a ppa or something DanChapman_13:45
ahoneybunDanChapman_, do you use T-Mobile or AT&T on your phone?13:45
ahayzenjustcarakas, yeah u may need a newer SDK or something...u on trusty?13:45
justcarakasI am13:45
ahoneybunahayzen, I saw that one developer uses trusty for his dev13:46
* ahayzen uses trusty13:46
ahoneybunbut he says that he will have to upgrade as trusty is not getting the updated stuff for ubuntu touch development or something like that13:46
* ahoneybun looks for link13:46
ahayzenbut then i don't run the app on desktop lol i just deploy to device to test13:46
justcarakasso it is because I'm on trusty ?13:47
ahoneybunahayzen, justcarakas http://nik90.com/a-core-app-devs-workflow/13:47
ahayzenahoneybun, yeah nik90 managed to get it all working on trusty :)13:47
ahayzenahoneybun, probably i have is the latest mediascanner2 doesn't work well on trusty so sortof breaks the music-app lol13:48
ahayzen*problem13:48
DanChapman_justcarakas: ahh if you are on trusty then yes it probably won't work as alot of the *new stuff* can't be backported easily.13:48
justcarakashmm13:48
* ahoneybun runs utopic just fine13:49
justcarakasis there a way to upgrade ? with dist upgrade or something ?13:49
ahoneybunyea13:49
DanChapman_justcarakas: sudo do-release-upgrade -d13:50
* ahoneybun gets beat by DanChapman_ 13:50
* justcarakas crosses fingers13:50
ahoneybunjustcarakas, you should be fine13:50
justcarakas:)13:51
ahoneybunahayzen, I still don't have mobile data :(13:51
ahayzenahoneybun, :( ask someone in #ubuntu-touch tomorrow when more people are about13:52
* ahoneybun wonders if him using his usb 3.0 port might effect it13:52
justcarakasI just hope my screen doesn't break again :) Ive been working for 2 days to get my 21:9 screen working, problem is if I use nvidia 343 I have lag and I write code but my screen still shows the previous code :p13:52
DanChapman_ahoneybun: sorry didn't see yoru question. I use giffgaff on my phone. It's a UK only network i believe...13:53
ahoneybunI see thanks DanChapman_13:53
* ahoneybun has no mobile data on Straight Talk on Ubuntu Touch13:53
ahoneybunahayzen, seems I'm still on r/w mode13:54
ahayzenahoneybun, yep u will be13:54
ahayzenahoneybun, not sure if/how you go the other way13:54
ahoneybunyea lol13:54
ahoneybunahayzen, I saw that when I reboot my bluetooth gets turned back on13:58
ahoneybunso I think it will not keep any changes I make13:59
ahayzenahoneybun, probably a bug i remember seeing something about that13:59
ahoneybunoh crap13:59
ahoneybunI have working data13:59
ahoneybunI turned wifi off and it loaded a website13:59
ahoneybun!!!13:59
ahoneybunbut if I reboot I have to do that again14:00
ahayzen\o/14:00
* ahoneybun tests DanChapman_ email to see if it is not me being crazy14:00
ahoneybunDanChapman_, does your email client not support outlook?14:01
ahoneybunnever mind14:02
ahoneybunno data14:02
ahoneybunweir14:02
ahoneybund14:02
ahoneybunwell back to the drawing board14:02
* ahoneybun looks for food14:03
DanChapman_ahoneybun: yes it works through it's imap implementation. No EWS support at the moment. Although outlook is severly lacking on the IMAP front so it's actually quite slow and they like to close the connections way before the 30min cut-off14:03
DanChapman_but yeah it *should* just work14:03
ahoneybunI was missing data DanChapman_ so it is my fault14:04
ahoneybunI wonder if I have to put back to read only mode14:07
* DanChapman_ has noticed an increasing frequency of daily downloads for new users recently. It's so cool to see!!14:12
ahoneybunDanChapman_, you app pretty cool14:13
ahoneybun*is pretty14:13
ahoneybunI just have webapps in the store for the moment14:13
DanChapman_ahayzen: do you know if there is any documentation for UserMetrics I can't find any on developer.u.c14:15
DanChapman_ahoneybun: nice!! which webapps are yours?14:16
ahoneybunDanChapman_, WellsFargo, GotoBus, BrowardCollege (though I don't like it), and IGN14:17
ahayzenDanChapman_, erm there maybe hang on...14:17
ahoneybunI can't see any Stats for my apps14:17
ahoneybunoh14:17
ahoneybunfor IGN there is one download14:17
ahoneybunsomeone from germeny14:18
ahoneybun*germany14:18
ahayzenDanChapman_, i can't see any but u can copy from us http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/music-app.qml#L49914:18
ahoneybunDanChapman_, I do have a real app ready for upload but I can't get it to build14:19
ahayzenDanChapman_, IIRC nik90 was my 'documentation' .. http://nik90.com/adding-infographics-to-ubuntu-phone/14:20
DanChapman_ahayzen: that's great, that will do the job nicely. Thanks :-)14:21
DanChapman_ahoneybun: awesome.. i'll have to check them out :-)14:21
ahoneybunDanChapman_, yea it is really just a list of states (but something :)14:21
ahoneybunthanks14:21
ahoneybun:)14:23
* ahoneybun can't get Dekko to open DanChapman_ 14:39
DanChapman_ahoneybun: does it just die out on the loading screen?14:40
ahoneybunyep14:44
DanChapman_ahoneybun: can you paste the log somewhere for me please14:44
ahoneybunI'm on devel-proposed I believe14:44
ahoneybunjust tell me how and I'll have it on pastie.ubuntu.com in no time14:44
ahoneybunDanChapman_, just tell me how :)14:46
DanChapman_ahoneybun: it should be in ~/.local/share/ somewhere my batteries dead atm so I can't tell you exactly :-D14:48
* DanChapman_ plugs phone in14:50
ahoneybunI found the .desktop file14:55
DanChapman_ahoneybun: sorry it's under ~/.cache/upstart/14:57
ahoneybunDanChapman_, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8448302/14:59
DanChapman_ahoneybun: ok can your try deleting the config file and create new account it's under ~/.config/com.ubuntu.developer.dpniel.dekko/15:06
DanChapman_there is a bug around deleting an account which a fix is coming in the next update so for now the whole file needs deleting15:07
DanChapman_ahoneybun: can you also not save your password when you re-create the account.15:09
ahoneybunok it opened15:09
ahoneybunI did not see a option to save password15:10
DanChapman_ahoneybun: just leave the password field empty :-)15:11
ahoneybunopps15:11
DanChapman_ok don't worry we'll go with password instead.15:11
ahoneybunI'm redoing it15:11
DanChapman_ok cool once you have re-done it can you open the account settings again. (Left swipe the account) and go to the "About" tab and long press the dekko icon and enable developer mode15:12
DanChapman_you then need to close and re-open dekko and you should have a settings button visible on the mailbox view15:13
ahoneybunok15:15
ahoneybunI have a option to enable imap logging15:15
* ahoneybun wishes he could save his password15:16
DanChapman_yes can you enable it for me and also you can save your password now if you wish on the imap & smtp settings tabs. Then close and reopen dekko again and tell me if it fails to start again15:17
ahoneybunhow do I get out of mailbox view?15:20
DanChapman_did it open up into mailbox view after restart?15:20
ahoneybuni did not restart15:21
ahoneybunI want to save my password15:21
ahoneybungot it15:21
DanChapman_right.. click on the little account icon in the header15:21
ahoneybungot it15:22
ahoneybunit opened up fine15:22
DanChapman_shucks i was actually hoping it would die out. :-) ok try opening and closing it a few times to make sure.15:23
* ahoneybun opens it 2 more times and it works fine15:26
ahoneybunand one more time and still works15:27
DanChapman_ahoneybun: \o/ well at least it's not broken. Must have been a misconfiguration going on somewhere. I have a feeling it was the password watcher. But anyway glad it's working again you can disable developer mode the same way you enabled it btw15:27
ahoneybunok thanks15:28
mihirnik90, ping17:48
mihirnik90, i pushed some trivial MR, if you could review them when you get time.17:48
ahoneybunhey mihir do you have a N4?17:50
mihirahoneybun, hey yes i do have17:54
ahoneybunmihir, do you have tmobile with it? and working mobile data?18:03
mihirahoneybun, nope i am in India and I am on Vodafone18:05
ahoneybunoh18:06
nik90ahoneybun: I have a N4 and the mobile data works properly18:23
ahoneybunnik90, oh yea>18:24
ahoneybunI can't18:25
ahoneybunI have straight talk with tmobile sim18:25
nik90mihir: I can't test since I am having trouble running apps (all) on the emulator and device. As such I am kinda stuck until tomorrow18:25
nik90ahoneybun: I am not sure, I just started dogfooding my device 2 days ago18:26
mihirnik90, ahh you upgraded ?18:29
mihirnik90, i just freshly installed utopic :|18:29
nik90mihir: nope I am sticking with trusty18:30
mihirsetting up machine18:30
mihirnik90, okay :)18:30
nik90mihir: it seems like an update may have borked my qtc running apps on an external device18:30
nik90since it spits out some errors and doesn't go further18:30
nik90I need to talk to the sdk folks tomorrow18:30
mihirnik90, hmm may be..18:30
mihirnik90, i believe my both issues should be resolved , emulator & device18:31
* mihir hopes to get his issues resolved :D18:31
ahoneybundo you guys nik90 mihir have android 4.4.2 and then flash ubuntu touch or can you be on 4.4.4 and then flash?18:33
ahoneybunnik90, I cant build my app18:33
mihirnik90, are you facing this issue : unable to use mouse scroll on SDK ?18:36
nik90ahoneybun: I flashed the phone a long time ago when I guess it came with 4.4.2..not sure...but I don't think it matters anyway18:37
nik90mihir: nope18:37
ahoneybunmihir, i can;t scroll on the code in sdk18:37
mihirnik90, Hmmm i am not sure why it is not able to scroll inside SDK , otherwise it works18:38
mihirahoneybun, yeah same here18:38
ahoneybunmihir, I got a few errors when trying to build my click package18:39
mihirpopey, nik90, one suggestion required, what would you suggest to user , to make selected at least one calendar from list of calendars  or you won't allow them to create an event if there are no calendar selected ?19:16
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Akiva-Thinkpadafternoon all19:48
ahoneybunhey Akiva-Thinkpad19:52
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, what you working on today?19:52
Akiva-Thinkpadstill trying to get the thing packaged?19:53
ahoneybunAkiva-Thinkpad, there has no updates so I doubt it would magically work19:54
Akiva-Thinkpadmmmmm okay19:54
ahoneybunnope still errors19:54
Akiva-Thinkpadtoo bad19:55
ahoneybuntoday someone in #ubuntu-touch as been helping me try to get mobile data19:55
ahoneybunworking19:55
* ahoneybun wonders if trying the devel or rtm channel would help19:56
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, so after rtm; what app do you want to work on?19:56
ahoneybunAkiva-Thinkpad, no clue19:56
ahoneybunguess I'll have to find one soon19:56
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, remember; we are using Go19:57
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, I got an idea19:57
ahoneybunAkiva-Thinkpad, yea I remember19:57
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, how about a wifi password software based brute forcer19:58
ahoneybunthats a bit high tech for me19:58
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, so?19:58
Akiva-Thinkpadits easy19:58
ahoneybunAkiva-Thinkpad, maybe to you19:58
Akiva-Thinkpadno its not as complicated as you think.19:58
Akiva-Thinkpadbesides, we are using Go; so it will be new for both of us.19:59
ahoneybunyea but if you know one programming language it is easier to learn19:59
ahoneybunI kinda know C++19:59
ahoneybunlike really kinda19:59
Akiva-ThinkpadChallenge yourself20:00
ahoneybunmaybe20:02
ahoneybunwell I help where I can but I have to want to do *that* project20:02
Akiva-Thinkpadfair enough20:03
Akiva-ThinkpadConsidering i'm always in need of wifi, i'd use it.20:03
ahoneybunso you'll hack a wifi to use i20:04
ahoneybun*it20:04
Akiva-Thinkpadprobably20:05
ahoneybunoh20:05
Akiva-Thinkpadahoneybun, what are you interested in, in general?20:16
Akiva-ThinkpadI tutor economics, I am teaching myself the piano, I like playing with spreadsheets.20:16
Akiva-Thinkpadso I make applications in accordance to that.20:16
Akiva-ThinkpadWhat about you; perhaps we can find something you are interested in and create an application around that.20:17
vitimitihi20:27
Akiva-Thinkpadvitimiti, heya20:38
vitimitiHi, Akiva-Thinkpad20:40
Akiva-Thinkpadvitimiti, whats new?20:40
vitimitiI installed 14.04 again and my app now says that the head.actions property doesn't exist. I guess it's a Trusty problem, because I do have the 1.1 components installed20:41
vitimitiI should upgrade again, tonight20:41
mivoligomzanetti: hi, great animation effect for the level difficulty :)20:42
mzanettimivoligo: hi.20:42
mzanettimivoligo: I changed it a little20:42
mivoligomzanetti: for the better, I'd say20:42
mzanettimivoligo: hope you like it. when I was done with how you specced it, I felt that bar seemed a bit stuck20:43
mzanettiso I tweaked it a little20:43
mivoligomzanetti: I love the effect :)20:43
mzanetticool20:44
mivoligomzanetti: only problem is the circle positions are bit off20:44
mzanettihmm... are they20:44
mzanettimivoligo: how? looks quite ok here20:45
mivoligomzanetti: http://screencloud.net/v/3SuO20:45
mzanettioh... that's off indeed20:46
mzanettiand those icons :D20:46
mzanettiit looks totally different then here :D20:46
mivoligo:D20:46
mzanettimivoligo: http://i.imgur.com/nNg6Cdx.png20:47
mivoligomzanetti: I guess it's because I'm on 14.0420:47
mzanettithe different icons, yes, the different size of the icons no20:48
mivoligomzanetti: your window is bigger than mine, I think20:48
mzanettiyes, but I think its because of the different grid size20:49
mzanettiyeah... can reproduce. will fix20:50
Akiva-Thinkpadvitimiti, ah snakes20:50
vitimitiAkiva-Thinkpad, nvm, it's quick (if there's enough internet speed)20:51
mivoligomzanetti: also I submitted a bug report after testing/playing a bit with my children20:51
mzanetti:D20:51
* mzanetti looks20:51
mzanettiright. have noticed that too. but forgot about it already20:52
mzanettithanks for the bug20:52
vitimitimzanetti, what game is it? Would like to test it too20:52
mivoligomzanetti: no problemo, they like the game so far :)20:52
mzanettivitimiti: lp:machines-vs-machines20:52
vitimitimzanetti, thanks, will compile it now20:53
vitimitiDang it, forgot I needed to update my public key20:53
mzanettivitimiti: you need to run ./setupdata.py in the data directory20:53
vitimitimzanetti, thanks, will do20:53
mzanettimivoligo: is the carousel ok?20:55
mivoligomzanetti: I think so20:55
mzanettiI'm not entirely happy with it... but not sure how to improve20:55
mzanettithe animation seems still a bit odd to me20:55
mivoligomzanetti: hmm.. for me is fine, maybe a bit to slow20:58
mivoligomzanetti: also no "+" sign here but you probably aware of that20:59
mivoligomzanetti: btw, now when we have different difficulty levels, we should add info about it on the level selection page21:02
mzanettiyep21:02
mzanettimivoligo: I've pushed some fixes. now sizes schould be better21:04
mivoligomzanetti: and about the settings: should we have different settings for different levelpacks? Or one settings for all of them?21:04
mzanettimivoligo: only one settings page21:04
mivoligomzanetti: ok, so maybe we should remove "reset scores" from settings?21:05
mzanettimivoligo: hmm21:05
mzanettiwhere would you move it to?21:06
mivoligomzanetti: I thought about some kind of scoreboard21:06
mzanettiwe're not really counting any scores though21:07
mzanettithis is mostly what's unlocked so far and current star balance21:08
mivoligomzanetti: right, but what happen if a player wants to reset scores only for one levelpack and not the other?21:08
mzanettiyeah... makes sense21:08
mzanettiit could also make sense to only reset scores for a certain difficulty21:08
mzanettiso in theory it would belong to the level selector page21:08
mzanettibut not sure how good it fits there21:09
vitimitiOh, I didn't have inkscape installed21:09
mivoligomzanetti: yep, maybe a click on the star with score there whould open a dialog for that?21:09
mzanettimivoligo: yeah, we could do that21:10
mivoligomzanetti: btw, sizes looks fine and circles are centered now :)21:10
mzanetti:)21:10
mivoligoupss, crashed when I was resizing the window21:11
mivoligomzanetti: can you also center "easy", "medium" and "hard" under related circle, please?21:14
mzanettinot working?21:14
mzanettimivoligo: that should be already the case21:15
mivoligomzanetti: text is bit of here: http://screencloud.net/v/21Hw21:15
mzanettisizes seem still wrong21:16
mivoligomzanetti: they are smaller in smaller window21:16
mzanettiyeah. the fonts don't scale with the window size21:17
mzanettiand the play button at the bottom neither21:17
Akiva-Thinkpadanyone know if you can do dictionary lists in qml?21:18
Akiva-Thinkpadyou know, key, definition sort of thing?21:19
mivoligomzanetti: one more thing, does the difficulty selection background is exported to png? I don't see the blur21:19
mzanettiAkiva-Thinkpad: FolderListModel21:20
vitimitimzanetti, it looks gorgeous. But I'm really bad at it21:20
mzanettimivoligo: no, it's not21:20
mzanettimivoligo: still have to clean up game artwork21:21
mivoligomzanetti: ok21:21
mzanettimivoligo: I don't have svg's of all the stuff21:21
mzanettimivoligo: when you have some time, could you add the missing ones?21:21
mivoligomzanetti: can you file a bug21:21
mzanettisure21:21
mivoligothanks21:21
mzanettimivoligo: fixed the remaining scaling issues in MainPage21:21
mzanettithe button on the text still doesn't scale21:22
mivoligomzanetti: should we make custom icons for settings and stuff or do you want to use Ubuntu default?21:22
mzanettimivoligo: hmm... what do you think?21:23
mzanettiUbuntu Suru icons are quite nice imo21:23
mzanettivitimiti: heh, don't give up :)21:23
mivoligomzanetti: I don't know if you can change their color21:24
mzanettimivoligo: yes, I can change the color21:24
* ahoneybun does some graphic work mzanetti 21:24
mivoligook then21:24
mzanettiahoneybun: ?21:24
vitimitimarcoceppi, haha21:24
ahoneybungame artwork21:24
mzanettiahoneybun: interesting. you searching for something to work on?21:25
ahoneybunmzanetti, I just go with the flow really, I can't say I'm a expert but I try21:25
mzanettiahoneybun: well, so I think with general machines vs machines artwork we're quite set by now. You could however, create a level pack with your own towers, enemies and levels.21:28
ahoneybunnice21:28
* ahoneybun makes banners and logos mostly21:29
mivoligoahoneybun: icon for the game is not yet done, so you can give it a shot :)21:30
ahoneybunoh :)21:30
mzanettialso, last days I had a play with Bacon2D and looks like there might be another game upcoming...  something like this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/PuzzleOfDexterity.jpg21:30
ahoneybunmivoligo, shot me some level designs to get concepts and ideas from please21:31
mivoligoahoneybun: it's a tower defence game21:31
ahoneybunmivoligo, ok cool21:32
mivoligoahoneybun: mzanetti posted link how to get a game21:32
mzanettiahoneybun: if you seriously start on working something, please let me know beforehand to work out details21:35
ahoneybunmzanetti, I just started a sec ago21:35
mzanettiahoneybun: on what?21:37
vitimitiI would like an icon for an IRC app that didn't suck, mine sucks quite a lot21:37
ahoneybuna icon21:37
mzanettiahoneybun: did you see how the game looks like?21:37
ahoneybunmzanetti, a bit21:38
mzanetti:)21:38
mzanettiahoneybun: try to keep in line with the general style a bit please21:38
mzanettiyou're free to bring in ideas, but not like going totally different than what we have so far21:39
* ahoneybun thinks he can't do this21:39
mivoligomzanetti: btw I think (and probably popey too) a player should not be allowed to mute the music ;)21:39
mzanettilol21:39
vitimitiI don't really see the purpose of that, I just mute the PC if I don't want to listen21:39
mivoligomzanetti: my son love the melodies :)21:40
ahoneybunvitimiti, shot me your current icon21:40
mzanettimivoligo: there's more coming up :)21:40
mivoligo:D great21:40
vitimitiahoneybun, it's an svg, I have this picture of it: http://goo.gl/aOdVkE21:40
mzanettimivoligo: I've spend like ages to cut the songs in a way that I can loop them :D21:40
mivoligomzanetti: it was worth it21:41
mzanettiyou haven't heard them yet :D21:41
mzanettibut yeah, they're similarly awesome21:41
ahoneybunI see vitimiti21:41
* mzanetti afk for 5 minutes21:42
mivoligomzanetti: I believe :)  ok, I'll catch you tomorrow21:42
vitimitiahoneybun, it's horrible21:42
ahoneybunvitimiti, not the worst21:42
* mivoligo is afk for hours21:42
vitimitiWell, yeah, it was worse before21:42
vitimitiBut I really need to focus on the UI, afterwards I can work on the backend and then the details21:43
ahoneybunvitimiti, something like these? https://www.google.com/search?q=quote+bubble&client=ubuntu&hs=nS3&channel=fs&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=zIEoVN2BN42LyASawYC4Cw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1855&bih=95121:47
vitimitiahoneybun, that happens to me for trying from scartch, I should use some of those, yeah21:48
ahoneybunvitimiti, I'll do it21:48
ahoneybunfrom scartch21:48
vitimitiahoneybun, well, that'd be really nice21:49
ahoneybunvitimiti, shooting you a link to it in a min21:56
ahoneybunvitimiti, http://imgur.com/vBZkaVh21:56
vitimitiahoneybun, opening (slow connection)21:57
ahoneybunok21:57
vitimitiahoneybun, that looks really really good21:58
vitimitiI would like to make it clear it is your doing, though21:58
ahoneybunI saved the .xfc from gimp and I have it in 512by512 for when you upload it to the store21:58
ahoneybunI have the gimp file21:58
Akiva-Thinkpadwoah21:59
Akiva-Thinkpadthat is cool...21:59
ahoneybunthat is the best I can do to prove21:59
Akiva-ThinkpadI disabled alt for moving windows in ubuntu21:59
vitimitiahoneybun, that's great21:59
Akiva-Thinkpadand now I can do free flow selecting in the ubuntu sdk21:59
* ahoneybun needs to setup his owncloud to share files easier22:00
ahoneybunvitimiti, https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6zAAODZFwQ2ZnVfOTloTkZOR2M&usp=sharing22:01
* ahoneybun is on his second mike's hard lemonade22:03
vitimitiahoneybun, thanks a lot, seriously. If you want, the same way I posted the first one I can link you from my g+ account with this new icon22:03
ahoneybunvitimiti, sure np22:04
ahoneybunjust keep on making apps vitimiti ! :)22:04
vitimitiahoneybun, yeah, I love the Ubuntu project :)22:04
ahoneybunsweet me too22:05
* ahoneybun is a Ubuntu member22:05
vitimitiAs soon as I get the Utopic back I'll keep advancing22:05
ahoneybunI'm utopic right now22:05
ahoneybunvitimiti, can you make a new project with a simple ui and try to make a click package (I can;t build my app)22:06
vitimitiahoneybun, I'm upgrading to utopic right now, actually, I can't do it right now22:06
ahoneybunoh ok22:06
vitimitiI am going to share the link and close it all for the upgrade, be back when it's done22:08
vitimitiahoneybun, give me the lp:, anyway, I'll try when I upgraded22:08
ahoneybunvitimiti, no it is a example in the SDK22:08
vitimitiOh, alright. Anyway, I've always had problems with the click packages, I'm not sure that this time it'd be different. I still need to learn packaging22:09
vitimitiI just posted the new icon linking it to you :P22:11
vitimitiI'm going to upgrade, later22:11
ahoneybuntoo bad I don't know his name lol22:12
ahoneybunhis/her22:12
ahoneybunhttp://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_451 only open source!22:13
* ahoneybun moves to devel channel22:33

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