| Kilos | hi melwik welcome to ubuntu-za | 05:35 |
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| Kilos | morning all | 05:35 |
| Kilos | ai! major wind blowing treees against power lines | 06:52 |
| nlsthzn | hey uncle Kilos , was a good last ten minutes in yesterdays match hey?!! | 07:41 |
| Kilos | wonderful | 07:41 |
| Kilos | very exciting | 07:42 |
| Kilos | and for once we win yay | 07:42 |
| nlsthzn | they tried for a bonus points and we almost lost, then they tried to win and we got a bonus point >.< | 07:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:43 |
| nlsthzn | I am sure their is a life lesson in there somewhere :) | 07:43 |
| Kilos | yip priorities | 07:43 |
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos ? All well in SA? Sure the weather must be much better | 07:49 |
| Kilos | yeah ty nlsthzn im much happier now that its warmer, hows things by you? | 07:50 |
| nlsthzn | fine thanks , cooling down slowly. | 07:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:50 |
| nlsthzn | are you still playing some games? I see I have many doubles with the humble bundles I have purchased if you are interested in anything... | 07:51 |
| Kilos | this is quite interesting | 07:51 |
| Kilos | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/security/110636-bash-bug-shock-what-should-you-do.html | 07:51 |
| Kilos | i havent lately. been getting a server going here and gertting it to share 3g, also been buying a 1TB drive which the couriers used every excuse for not delivering until my supplier told them to take it back to them and they delivered it to me personally | 07:53 |
| Kilos | then a day and night of trying to install ubuntu on it and eventually win7 made me dig up a seagate seatools cd and find it has bad sectors in critical areas | 07:54 |
| Kilos | so tomorrow back to skype for the supplier | 07:55 |
| Kilos | they must love me and murphy | 07:55 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:55 |
| Kilos | murphies law, as dit kan breek, sal dit | 07:56 |
| nlsthzn | yup | 07:56 |
| nlsthzn | technology, a blessing or a curse | 07:56 |
| Kilos | haha but disappointing with that kind of hassle on a brandy new drive | 07:57 |
| Kilos | last resort was to check the drive | 07:57 |
| Kilos | maybe it was mishandled in transit somewhere | 07:58 |
| nlsthzn | defects in new stuff is very common sadly | 08:00 |
| Kilos | eish | 08:00 |
| nlsthzn | and it typically happens when resolving the issue is difficult | 08:00 |
| nlsthzn | murphy and all ;) | 08:01 |
| Kilos | yip but now ive learned, if any hassles with an install check the drive first | 08:01 |
| Kilos | im so used to old drives and their probs i didnt even think of checking on a new one | 08:02 |
| Kilos | luckily in my learning process i discovered that seatools for dos program must be years back now | 08:04 |
| Kilos | it checks the drive thoroughly and gives an error code if there is a prob | 08:04 |
| nlsthzn | well at least some learning happened :) | 08:07 |
| Kilos | yeah | 08:10 |
| === StonedAlchemist_ is now known as StonedAlchemist | ||
| charl | good afternoon | 10:52 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 10:52 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 10:52 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:52 |
| charl | hallo Kilos | 10:52 |
| charl | how are you doing this fine day | 10:53 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 10:53 |
| charl | i'm doing great | 10:53 |
| Kilos | im just looking at my facebook stuffs | 10:53 |
| Kilos | very seldom go there but got a bit bored | 10:53 |
| charl | just ate a pizza at the vapiano and am now drinking coffee at douwe egberts across rotterdam central station | 10:54 |
| charl | ah i refuse to use facebook out of fundamental concerns | 10:54 |
| charl | but a lot of my friends and family use it | 10:54 |
| Kilos | fundamental concerns? | 10:54 |
| charl | centralisation of personal information and communication on a single service provider | 10:55 |
| charl | tools like facebook are not suitable for general use on the internet due to its centralised architecture | 10:55 |
| charl | same goes for whatsapp, twitter, linkedin etc | 10:55 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 10:56 |
| Kilos | ah | 10:56 |
| charl | Maaz: danke | 10:56 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 10:56 |
| Kilos | oh charl i ran seatools dos thingie on the drive and it has bad blocks in critical areas | 10:58 |
| charl | is that the new drive you bought ? | 10:58 |
| Kilos | yip | 10:58 |
| charl | whaaaaat, that's horrible | 10:58 |
| charl | return it immediately | 10:58 |
| Kilos | thats why i couldnt install on it | 10:59 |
| charl | yeah no wonder | 10:59 |
| Kilos | yip skyping the rep tomorrow | 10:59 |
| charl | it sounds like a manufacturing problem, or maybe it got damaged in transit but i thought that wasn't possible anymore | 10:59 |
| charl | don't they do any testing before they ship new drives | 10:59 |
| Kilos | nope they arrive and go into their storeroom and qwait for orders | 11:00 |
| charl | from my time in south africa i got the impression many of these companies are selling throw-out products | 11:00 |
| charl | because i had that same experience at mecer, rectron | 11:00 |
| charl | in NL i have never bought faulty hardware, ever | 11:00 |
| Kilos | but they had no probs replacing a dvd writer i bought from them so i think all will be ok | 11:01 |
| charl | it *can* happen but it's extremely rare | 11:01 |
| charl | i think there's a problem in the industry with quality assurance | 11:01 |
| Kilos | must be | 11:01 |
| charl | it happened once too many for me to think it is purely coincidental | 11:01 |
| Kilos | next one ill run seatools to check | 11:02 |
| charl | yeah you must | 11:02 |
| charl | can't trust these people by the looks of it | 11:02 |
| Kilos | actually a nice tool that | 11:02 |
| charl | do that first before even trying to install anything on it | 11:02 |
| Kilos | yip will do | 11:02 |
| charl | i should actually run smartctl on this hard drive some time again | 11:03 |
| Kilos | even gives you a seagate ref number for warranty issues | 11:03 |
| charl | there weren't any problems last time but you never know | 11:03 |
| charl | nice ! | 11:03 |
| charl | but it's time for me to buy a new laptop in any case, i think | 11:03 |
| charl | i've been looking at the various thinkpad options, there are some really nice ones right now | 11:03 |
| charl | some light weight laptops for very good battery life | 11:04 |
| charl | only problem is they all come standard with hdmi now and my external screen is still an older vga | 11:04 |
| Kilos | i dont like those things | 11:04 |
| charl | so i will need a hdmi-to-vga connector | 11:04 |
| charl | *converter | 11:04 |
| Kilos | im a desktop person | 11:04 |
| charl | i travel around quite a bit (like i'm doing right now) and it's nice to take my laptop with and use free wifi :P | 11:04 |
| charl | i also take my laptop with me to work every day | 11:05 |
| Kilos | yes they have advantages | 11:05 |
| charl | but yeah it depends on your need at the end of the day | 11:05 |
| charl | laptops aren't very flexible | 11:05 |
| charl | i used to be a desktop person myself before i started traveling and realised it is just a necessity | 11:05 |
| Kilos | yip when travelling you cant beat a lappy | 11:06 |
| charl | i am also looking for a cheap-ish home server right now | 11:06 |
| charl | that's why i'm looking at all the various options for single-board computers | 11:06 |
| charl | i have an cable modem standing at home that's doing practically nothing most of the day | 11:07 |
| charl | want to just host my own stuff at home instead of making use of external providers | 11:07 |
| charl | my only problem is that most dynamic ip address ranges have been blacklisted for sending spam due to various malware infections on home computers | 11:08 |
| Kilos | ya ive got a pc here that my server but when i get new stuff it has to stand one side while in work here and stay online with old p4 | 11:08 |
| charl | so i can't really use it as a mail server unless i get a static ip address routed through or i use a mail proxy | 11:08 |
| charl | but other stuff can be hosted without any problems | 11:08 |
| charl | ok i'm off again, have to catch the tram | 11:09 |
| charl | ciao | 11:09 |
| Kilos | ok | 11:09 |
| Kilos | sigh | 12:20 |
| bushtech_ | nou wat's nou weer verkeerd? | 12:31 |
| Kilos | die wind wat die bome teen die krag drade druk dan vrek die krag | 13:37 |
| bushtech_ | Ah Ok , nie veel wat jy daaromtrent kan doen nie | 13:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:39 |
| bushtech_ | dog net Murphy druk jou weer | 13:39 |
| Kilos | nee hy kan maar more weer probeer as ek vra vir vervanging van my hardeskyf | 13:40 |
| bushtech_ | gee hulle gas | 13:40 |
| Kilos | hy probeer maar altyd maar ek is hardekwas en gooi nie tou in nie | 13:41 |
| Kilos | ek glo nie hulle sal sukkel nie | 13:41 |
| bushtech_ | Ja, ek dink jou attitude moet wees: Wanner is die nuwe een hier? | 13:42 |
| Kilos | lol ek sal die agent more oggend op skype kry en hoor | 13:43 |
| charl | bushtech_: you want to gas them?! you should join the nazis | 14:55 |
| charl | not very politically correct thing to say these days | 14:56 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:56 |
| Kilos | dont you understand afrikaans charl | 14:56 |
| Kilos | gee hulle gas is give them gears or give them hell | 14:56 |
| charl | ah | 14:57 |
| charl | i thought you wanted to gas them to death | 14:57 |
| Kilos | no man | 14:58 |
| charl | travel tip, if you come to europe, don't use that expression :P | 14:58 |
| Kilos | ok lol | 14:58 |
| charl | gassing here has a very negative connotation | 14:58 |
| charl | they used to gas the jews in poland | 14:58 |
| Kilos | it is also pronounced same as in ag man | 14:58 |
| Kilos | not a gutteral g | 14:59 |
| charl | in dutch we that's the way we would say it too | 14:59 |
| Kilos | like a silence growl | 14:59 |
| charl | "je moet ze gas geven" | 14:59 |
| Kilos | silent | 14:59 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:59 |
| charl | but yeah it isn't something you want to say :P | 15:00 |
| charl | after ww2 it kind-of got a really bad connotation | 15:00 |
| Kilos | in europe maybe not here. its the taal | 15:00 |
| charl | lol | 15:00 |
| charl | the germans developed deadly mustard gas | 15:01 |
| charl | that stuff wasn't good | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ya warfare sucks | 15:01 |
| charl | yeah | 15:01 |
| Kilos | even worse things are used today and recent wars | 15:02 |
| charl | yeah all these smart bombs | 15:02 |
| charl | bombs are never smart, only dumb | 15:02 |
| Kilos | good way of lowering the population though | 15:02 |
| charl | yeah especially in a desert where not much lives in any case | 15:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 15:03 |
| charl | go kill the little that still breathes | 15:03 |
| Kilos | war is stupid but thats how govts revive the economy | 15:03 |
| charl | yeah that's what they say, although i'm not convinced it's really true | 15:05 |
| charl | it revives part of the economy but it kills off another part | 15:05 |
| Kilos | ya but after the war there is always progress in leaps and bounds | 15:05 |
| charl | wasn't the case in the NL, after ww2 the country hit a major economic downturn | 15:06 |
| charl | germany was left divided | 15:06 |
| charl | took a long time to build back up what was lost | 15:06 |
| charl | the port city of rotterdam i just visited was almost completely destroyed | 15:06 |
| Kilos | but look at how they progressed | 15:06 |
| charl | but after many years things do eventually recover | 15:06 |
| Kilos | yeah well you cant rebuild in a couple of years | 15:07 |
| charl | i dunno, i guess there are many different ways of looking at it | 15:07 |
| Kilos | stupid it is | 15:07 |
| Kilos | but thats hguman nature hey | 15:07 |
| Kilos | human | 15:07 |
| charl | look at the uk and the usa, they are both left heavily indebted after these wars | 15:08 |
| charl | wars cost a LOT of money | 15:08 |
| Kilos | there has never been peace, peeps always want what the neighbour has | 15:08 |
| charl | government becomes so much in debt they can never pay the money back | 15:08 |
| charl | yeah it's simple human greed and the other side is frear | 15:08 |
| charl | *fear | 15:08 |
| charl | it's always "those people" | 15:08 |
| Kilos | yes but half the time there was no reason for the war | 15:08 |
| charl | well there rarely is any real reason for war | 15:09 |
| Kilos | like old sadam with supposed weapons of mass destruction they still havent found | 15:09 |
| Kilos | but they spent mega bucks getting rid of him | 15:10 |
| Kilos | and the uk i dont understand, theyve lost all their colonies but still shove nose in all over | 15:11 |
| charl | except in the EU that they rather stay out of entirely | 15:13 |
| Kilos | now i want my new drive man, i got kubuntu 64bit last night for it | 15:13 |
| charl | just because that's the only place where they can't call the shots | 15:13 |
| charl | and when scotland wanted out they bullied them | 15:14 |
| Kilos | yip they still got the attitude that they ruke the world | 15:14 |
| Kilos | rule | 15:14 |
| charl | england wants to be in everywhere but only where they can be the big boss | 15:14 |
| charl | they can't stand being outclassed | 15:14 |
| Kilos | yip and make money | 15:14 |
| charl | that attitude has been going on for hundreds of years | 15:15 |
| Kilos | everything is about money | 15:15 |
| charl | back in the dutch golden age they used to block our trade routes | 15:15 |
| charl | just because they couldn't stand us outclassing them in every way | 15:15 |
| charl | they wanted control over all the trade route4s | 15:15 |
| charl | we never wanted war with them, they just started bullying us | 15:15 |
| Kilos | same with boer wars | 15:16 |
| charl | nah those island natives... then i rather side with germany | 15:16 |
| charl | at least the germans are progressive, smart and they work hard | 15:16 |
| Kilos | same in canada with the french | 15:16 |
| charl | sure they have their mistakes but at least they have culture | 15:16 |
| charl | a former colleague of mine was canadian from ukrainian decent | 15:17 |
| charl | she told me about how the english used to treat the slavs as untermenschen there in canada | 15:17 |
| Kilos | i admire the nation they came from total destruction to being a world leader in many ways | 15:17 |
| charl | and then later they had a lot to say about the germans | 15:17 |
| Kilos | the secret is , dont lose | 15:18 |
| charl | yeah :D | 15:18 |
| Kilos | winners always write the history books | 15:18 |
| charl | exactly isn't that true | 15:18 |
| charl | yup | 15:18 |
| charl | the ww2 history is mostly told very one-sidedly | 15:18 |
| Kilos | yip | 15:18 |
| charl | never did they say a word about how german u-boats saved many of the survivors from the ships they destroyed | 15:18 |
| charl | no it's always "those evil germans" | 15:18 |
| Kilos | politics | 15:19 |
| charl | and that there were more than 40 assassination attempts on hitler, mostly by germans | 15:19 |
| charl | even his own inner circle | 15:19 |
| charl | the lengths to which they went to plot to kill hitler was amazing in many ways | 15:19 |
| charl | the one guy even built a cutting edge time bomb which was years ahead of its time | 15:19 |
| charl | pun not intended :D | 15:20 |
| Kilos | they are a brilliant nation and not lazy | 15:20 |
| charl | yeah i wish the dutch had the work ethic of the germans | 15:20 |
| charl | i think people here got lazy after too many years of wealth | 15:20 |
| Kilos | oh well us little guys can just watch | 15:21 |
| charl | :D | 15:21 |
| charl | yeah ... | 15:21 |
| Kilos | haha have you heard of a brobrella | 15:23 |
| Kilos | just saw an add | 15:23 |
| Kilos | brobrella is a large person that supplies you with shade to keep your beer cool | 15:24 |
| charl | whaaaat hahaha :D | 15:29 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:04 |
| Kilos | inetpro you here? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 18:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | lo | 18:27 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:27 |
| charl | hi smile | 18:40 |
| charl | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 18:40 |
| smile | see you later, charl and Kilos :) | 18:47 |
| smile | and everyone else :) | 18:47 |
| Kilos | ok | 18:48 |
| smile | good night :) | 18:48 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:48 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:56 |
| theblazehen | I have a procrastination problem :( | 19:06 |
| === SilverCodeZA is now known as SilverCode | ||
| inetpro | good evening | 20:07 |
| inetpro | yay! | 20:51 |
| inetpro | Membership renewed until 2015-09-30 | 20:52 |
| inetpro | only 78 active members left? | 20:53 |
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