[00:00] <daftykins> lakitu: are you familiar and comfortable with dropping to a TTY and restarting X?
[00:00] <Seonfr> so, separate /boot or separate /boot/grub
[00:00] <Basketball> OerHeks,  under seetings and network the mac address is greyed out
[00:00] <lakitu> should i try another log now that i have the tv for sure on?
[00:00] <lakitu> daftykins: maybe have done it noce, but no comfortable, no
[00:00] <lakitu> once*
[00:00] <k1l_> Seonfr: why seperate /boot at all?
[00:00] <lakitu> not comfortable*
[00:00] <lakitu> sorry
[00:01] <daftykins> lakitu: should be ctrl+alt+F1 to switch to TTY1, log in, run "sudo service lightdm restart" <-- i would do this after unplugging the HDMI from the TV end whilst it's running
[00:01] <daftykins> lakitu: sorry, unplugging and plugging back in
[00:01] <lakitu> ok
[00:01] <Seonfr> k1l_, if grub files are on one partition and i decide i want to remove/reinstall that operating system, or to move the partition, grub would break
[00:01] <lakitu> what's the how do i login?
[00:01] <lakitu> err
[00:01] <lakitu> how do i login?
[00:02] <squinty> ctrl alt f7
[00:02] <daftykins> lakitu: you'll see a username prompt, you type your user then your password.
[00:02] <lakitu> ok
[00:02] <lakitu> i'm goin' in.
[00:02] <lakitu> =P
[00:02] <k1l_> Seonfr: well. that is some really special setup then. most users are fine without seperate /boot
[00:03] <lakitu> f7 or f1?
[00:03] <squinty> lakitu:  f1 to go into tty   f7 to return to the desktop
[00:03] <lakitu> oh ok
[00:03] <lakitu> good info =)
[00:04] <Seonfr> k1l_: so what do they do when they want to remove the os with grub?
[00:04] <k1l_> Seonfr: if you remove ubuntu you will actually install other one. and that will bring is own bootloader
[00:06] <lakitu> alright didn't work
[00:06] <lakitu> for learning purposes, what is lightdm
[00:06] <javier_> hola buenas tardes
[00:07] <Seonfr> k1l_, I'll go with a separate /boot/grub, two OSs might overwrite each other's kernel/initrds
[00:07] <daftykins> lakitu: the login manager, which kinda controls starting up the GUI
[00:07] <squinty> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightDM
[00:07] <lakitu> ok
[00:07] <daftykins> lakitu: ok remove catalyst and try an older version
[00:07] <lakitu> so a way to restart "X"?
[00:07] <k1l_> Seonfr: so far we are talking about ubuntu only. you didnt mention a dualboot at all
[00:08] <Basketball> daftykins,  the mac address box is greyed out
[00:08] <Seonfr> k1l_"[19:55] <Seonfr> So I want to install multiple linux operating systems" ...
[00:08] <daftykins> Basketball: this is still not a virtualbox channel.
[00:08] <squinty> Basketball:   /join #vbox  for virtualbox support
[00:08] <lakitu> daftykins: last line of defense - do i need to use a certain driver, in the video card part of kde's "driver manager"?
[00:09] <k1l_> Seonfr: ah, my mistake. didnt scroll that much back
[00:09] <daftykins> lakitu: why is it offering some there?
[00:09] <lakitu> there's 3
[00:09] <lakitu> i'm trying the 3rd one now
[00:09] <Aziroshin> No matter how I google around about it, apt-get missing from a debootstrap install doesn't seem to be a very common problem. There are a few cases, but no one has an answer for them. :o
[00:09] <daftykins> lakitu: wait - you can't install one of those if you installed manually from a download
[00:09] <lakitu> is doing that tty command different than logging out?
[00:09] <lakitu> hm?
[00:09] <daftykins> you can't just logout and in after driver installs
[00:10] <lakitu> ok
[00:10] <daftykins> at least - i think? anyone else?
[00:10] <lakitu> let me try to restart lightdm & see if it works with this driver
[00:10] <matthew_> hello
[00:11] <k1l_> well, seems to be to late for me. going to bed, bb
[00:11] <Seonfr> k1l_, another question, I don't need to mount the /boot/grub partition in both OSs, right?
[00:19] <lakitu> daftykins: won't work, i'm done
[00:19] <lakitu> maybe another time
[00:19] <daftykins> lakitu: pretty sure you did bad things
[00:19] <lakitu> thanks for help
[00:19] <lakitu> lolol
[00:19] <lakitu> i don't think so
[00:19] <lakitu> i did the same thing i did all the other times
[00:19] <daftykins> lakitu: you installed menu ones after you downloaded a file from AMD's site to install?
[00:19] <lakitu> i tihnk
[00:19] <Aziroshin> I would like to verify a package from there: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap - Where would I be able to get the public key to do so?
[00:20] <lakitu> daftykins: after what i tried - downloading amd's installer - didn't work
[00:20] <lakitu> i didn't do that first
[00:20] <daftykins> lakitu: what was the first option that gave you catalyst 13 then?
[00:20] <daftykins> one of those 3 menu items?
[00:20] <lakitu> hm?
[00:20] <lakitu> the driver manager you mean?
[00:20] <daftykins> yeah
[00:21] <daftykins> were you just off trying the other 2?
[00:21] <lakitu> i didn't touch it at first, remembered catalyst & installed it after Display etc did nothing
[00:21] <lakitu> first
[00:21] <lakitu> then when that didn't work, i tried switching to other drivers, wondering if that was it
[00:21] <lakitu> because occasionally (before i'd restart) it'd throw an error about the driver
[00:22] <lakitu> but that's probably just because id din't restart first
[00:22] <lakitu> but
[00:22] <wadie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2246021&p=13130731#post13130731
[00:22] <daftykins> lakitu: hmm ok worth attacking another time. my brain's about to melt as it's gone 1am my time :)
[00:22] <lakitu> ok. thanks for the help
[00:22] <lakitu> not sure if i said that
[00:22] <daftykins> np
[00:23] <daftykins> sure :)
[00:23] <lakitu> another time
[00:23] <lakitu> have a good sleep =)
[00:23] <wadie> I'd be glad if anyone can help me with a resolution issue
[00:26] <daftykins> wadie: is this a recent install? why 12.04 ?
[00:27] <wadie> daftykins: I've just installed it
[00:27] <daftykins> wadie: how come you didn't pick the newest release, 14.04.1 ?
[00:28] <wadie> because it said I might have graphic issues and there's no LTS on it yet
[00:28] <anon9ks83j>  Helo all
[00:28] <daftykins> wadie: no LTS?
[00:29] <daftykins> anon9ks83j: wb
[00:29] <wadie> yea
[00:29] <wadie> but either way how do I fix the resolution thing?
[00:29] <anon9ks83j>  deving an irc python bot
[00:29] <daftykins> wadie: can you pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to hopefully shed some light on what's going on?
[00:29] <squinty> Aziroshin:  use Archive Manager to display the .deb's contents and then look for a file named md5sums.  (not really sure if that is exactly what you are looking for or not)
[00:29] <daftykins> anon9ks83j: ok but this isn't a developer channel, you need to go and find the python channel
[00:30] <wadie> daftykins: what's the command ?
[00:30] <anon9ks83j>  i just need a generic chat room , its statistical analysis
[00:30] <daftykins> wadie: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" then share the link
[00:30] <anon9ks83j>  mostly llexical
[00:30] <daftykins> anon9ks83j: you are not welcome to perform any such activities here
[00:31] <daftykins> you can use #ubuntu-offtopic just fine
[00:31] <anon9ks83j>  its passive, has no affect on the chan
[00:31] <wadie> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/8444128/
[00:32] <Randy_O> question: anyone have an idea what port in IPTABLES I need to allow to do apt-get?
[00:32] <daftykins> wadie: can you run "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old" then reboot?
[00:33] <daftykins> wadie: i see you have 'nomodeset' enabled
[00:33] <wadie> ok brb
[00:33] <anon9ks83j>   ^]\\
[00:33] <geudrik> This is a weird question, but I'm ripping my hair out, hoping someone has some ideas I haven't had. I run an IRC server. I have a VPS. I have friends that use my VPS. Assuming normal conditions, and no abnormal network poopery, is there any reason that direct chats between myself and a friend, using different tmux sessions, on the same vps, connected to the same IRC server, would be horribly laggy?
[00:34] <anon9ks83j>  what is the host to host avrg pings
[00:34] <Meridian> Hey everyone. I don't suppose anyone's runnung Ubuntu on a Dell Chromebook 11 that could tell me what they think of its performance?
[00:34] <geudrik> anon9ks83j: eg: his house to my house?
[00:34] <wadie> daftykins: done
[00:34] <anon9ks83j>  ping it anyway and see
[00:36] <Randy_O> nevermind, I got it
[00:36] <daftykins> wadie: pastebin the file again please
[00:36] <wadie> can you please tell me what to type again
[00:36] <wadie> because I had to reboot..
[00:36] <daftykins> wadie: just cursor up to repeat previous commands
[00:36] <geudrik> anon9ks83j: why.. that doesn't make any sense
[00:37] <anon9ks83j>  so we can determine it isn't your network, that it is the server app or the host
[00:37] <wadie> what was the command?
[00:37] <geudrik> my network is fine. ping to the server is <6ms
[00:37] <daftykins> wadie: pastebinit ...
[00:37] <geudrik> s/server/server that my tmux session is on
[00:37] <daftykins> Meridian: very unlikely. chromebookes aren't officially supported, they're typically a 'hack' to get installed anyway.
[00:38] <anon9ks83j>  
[00:38] <anon9ks83j>  Have you tried to reinstall the same server from a defferent tarball
[00:38] <wadie> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8444169/
[00:38] <Meridian> That's unfortunate, I'd expect people would be all over it considering the price/spec ratio. Doesn't seem particularly difficult to get it running, but I can see how it might turn some people off.
[00:39] <geudrik> anon9ks83j: the irc server? i generally recompile as updates come out
[00:39] <daftykins> geudrik: i suspect you may be dealing with a troll, i'm afraid.
[00:39] <geudrik> daftykins: i was starting to suspect as much
[00:40] <daftykins> wadie: can you share what "cat /etc/issue" reports?
[00:41] <wadie> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[00:42] <Basketball> how do i uninstall pamusb
[00:42] <t0ntin> Hi, all! I am running ubuntu alongside windows. Is it easy to delete and reinstall ubuntu?
[00:42] <FailFarm> Basketball: did you try sudo apt-get remove pamusb?
[00:42] <Basketball> yes
[00:43] <daftykins> wadie: what's your processor? exact model
[00:43] <FailFarm> did you get an error
[00:43] <wadie> daftykins: Intel® Core™ i3-4160 CPU @ 3.60GHz × 4
[00:45] <Bashing-om> t0ntin: Yes, proper care and attention is to be exercised. 20 minutes with a fast internet connection.
[00:45] <daftykins> wadie: if i were you i would definitely try booting a 14.04.1 ISO just to see whether it runs, i think the default setup of 12.04 is too old for your haswell CPU's graphics
[00:47] <RonWhoCares> moritzs: are you still here
[00:50] <Basketball> when i go to install pamusb-tools and libpam-usb i get no a no installation candate
[00:51] <daftykins> maybe they're not real packages
[00:51] <Basketball> but they are
[00:51] <daftykins> maybe your package lists are not up to date
[00:51] <squinty> pamusb-tools/trusty 0.5.0-4 all
[00:51] <squinty>   dummy transitional package for pamusb-common
[00:51] <daftykins> or your mirror is bad, or your release is EOL
[00:56] <Bashing-om> Basketball: I is there: Package: pamusb-tools >Section: universe/oldlibs >Filename: pool/universe/libp/libpam-usb/pamusb-tools_0.5.0-4_all.deb ::  dummy transitional package for pamusb-common
[00:56] <Bashing-om>  This dummy package is provided for a smooth transition from
[00:57] <Bashing-om>  pamsub-tools to pamusb-common.
[01:03] <buntutech> hello ubuntu technicians
[01:03] <_unreal_> uhhhhhhh..
[01:04] <rom1504> buntutech: hello buntu technician
[01:05] <buntutech> hi
[01:05] <TLoFP> hi, I am trying to install XUbuntu onto a partition that already has normal ubuntu on it. The computer is dual booting windows, so it has other partitions on it. How can I acomplish this? I do not want to install along side Ubuntu and Windows, nor do I want to format (loosing windows) I just want to replace Ubuntu with XUbuntu
[01:05] <EriC^^> TLoFP: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-destop
[01:06] <TLoFP> EriC^^: same as installing XUbuntu? lol, now I feel stupid
[01:06] <EriC^^> that will install the xfce de, and you can choose unity or xfce at the login screen
[01:06] <EriC^^> \
[01:06] <_unreal_> now how could you go and do that to the poor guy EriC^^  ;)
[01:07] <buntutech> will that also work if u do the lxde command and then choose unity?
[01:07] <EriC^^> buntutech: yeah
[01:08] <BadHorse> I've just got an issue with thunderbird where it won't open except as root, and then there's about a 15 second delay, so it's likely something to do with permissions, but I don't know what. I've done a full removal and install including config files and it still won't let me open except as root
[01:08] <BadHorse> any suggestions?
[01:08] <buntutech> i had no idea u could do unity like that
[01:08] <daftykins> BadHorse: i'd bet your profile in ~ is owned by root instead of by you.
[01:08] <TLoFP> EriC^^: ok, good to know, I will go repair GRUB then instead of reinstalling
[01:08] <TLoFP> thanks again
[01:08] <buntutech> whoah unity mixed with lxde would be wild
[01:08] <EriC^^> no problem
[01:09] <BadHorse> owned by root? could you elaborate?
[01:10] <BadHorse> daftykins, how can I re-own it so it works again
[01:11] <Eduard_Munteanu> BadHorse, ls -al ~/.mozilla      # or something along those lines
[01:11] <daftykins> BadHorse: one moment, just confirming where it lives
[01:12] <_unreal_> any one know of a command that will list the majory of your computers hardware?
[01:12] <daftykins> BadHorse: confirm first by having a look. open a terminal and run "ls -al ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/" or "ls -al ~/.thunderbird/" or possibly "ls -al ~/.config/thunderbird" - i'm not sure where it may be kept
[01:13] <_unreal_> cpu mem, hd video card etc...
[01:13] <daftykins> _unreal_: lshw
[01:13] <bazhang> sudo lshw _unreal_
[01:13] <_unreal_> couph I knew that
[01:13] <bazhang> dmidecode
[01:14] <OerHeks> lscpu lsusb lspci
[01:15] <ausjke> is it possible to losetup -d after I removed the original image file that losetup used initially
[01:16] <ausjke> losetup /dev/loop0 test.img; rm test.img; losetup -d /dev/loop0; and loop0 is un-removable
[01:20] <daftykins> ausjke: "man losetup"
[01:21] <cornell> Evening all.. any one experience upgrading Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, via Update Manager?  Did it go well?
[01:21] <ausjke> daftykins: tried that, and googled
[01:21] <navetz> can someone help me fix my ubuntu colour issues: look at my menu bar and top right icons
[01:21] <navetz> http://i.imgur.com/Bxekxj0.png
[01:22] <ausjke> ubuntu 12.04 64bit; dd if=/dev/urandom of=test.img bs=1M count=10; losetup /dev/loop0 test.img; rm test.img;losetup -d /dev/loop0
[01:22] <BadHorse> Any way to fix that thunderbird issue, anyone?
[01:22] <daftykins> ausjke: tried running it with sudo?
[01:22] <ausjke> no errors, but /dev/loop0 still busy, i can see it with losetup -a
[01:22] <ausjke> daftykins: yes testing under sudo
[01:22] <daftykins> BadHorse: you haven't shared the output of the commands given to you... you need to confirm that root owns the folder first
[01:23] <daftykins> BadHorse: step 1, do this right now... find where the thunderbird profile is kept.
[01:27] <BadHorse> daftykins, i did an it works, but it stalls out for 20 secs before opening
[01:27] <BadHorse> and bogs down the cpu
[01:27] <BadHorse> as opposed to before it was instant
[01:27] <daftykins> BadHorse: i am asking you to open a terminal and locate where the profile is stored, then share via pastebin "ls -al" in that folder
[01:27] <daftykins> BadHorse: if you cannot respond to my requests shortly i will have to stop trying.
[01:28] <EriC^^> BadHorse: type this in a terminal find -type d -iname "*thunder*" -exec ls -l {} \;
[01:29] <EriC^^> BadHorse: type this in a terminal find -type d -iname "*thunder*" -exec ls -al {} \;
[01:29] <EriC^^> ( use the second one )
[01:31] <ceibal> hola
[01:32] <navetz> does anyone know how to fix my theme issue in ubuntu? this is what it looks like right now: http://i.imgur.com/Bxekxj0.png
[01:36] <daftykins> navetz: backup ~/.dconf i think it is, or maybe ~/.config/.dconf/ then run "dconf reset -f /org/compiz" in a terminal
[01:36] <navetz> daftykins, thanks man i'll give it a shot
[01:43] <blahdeblah> Hi.  What's a good screen recorder with audio support for Ubuntu?  I've tried gtk-recordmydesktop and istanbul and they both just hang for me (at different points).
[01:44] <kostkon> blahdeblah, those are rather old and outdated
[01:45] <d0lph1n98> blahdeblah: just use ffmpeg
[01:45] <RonWhoCares> is it possible to copy the ubuntu ISO to a hard drive
[01:46] <kostkon> blahdeblah, vokoscreen, simplescreenrecorder, kazam are some better ones
[01:47] <blahdeblah> kostkon, d0lph1n98: thanks
[01:47] <blahdeblah> RonWhoCares: You can copy it to a bootable USB (presumably including a hard disk, although I haven't tried) using unetbootin
[01:47] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: whilst it's an ISO it's a file on your hard disk yes. what do you really mean?
[01:47] <blahdeblah> RonWhoCares: However, ISOs are not directly bootable from hard disk
[01:47] <kostkon> blahdeblah, all those 3 are easy to use. simplescreenrecorder is also especially good for gaming
[01:48] <RonWhoCares> I am trying to fix a laptop computer where an infant spilled a drink on it
[01:48] <daftykins> blahdeblah: they are with some GRUB editing, afaiui
[01:48] <RonWhoCares> The easiest option for me is to use my USB SATA cable and mount the ISO onto the hard drive
[01:48] <RonWhoCares> and then put the hard drive into the computer
[01:49] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: mounting an ISO onto an HDD is not a term that makes sense
[01:49] <blahdeblah> daftykins: interesting; I might have to look that up sometime
[01:49] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: all this fiddling then, is it because you don't have a USB flash drive and don't have any blank DVDs?
[01:49] <blahdeblah> kostkon: Looks like none of those are in the Ubuntu repos. :-\
[01:50] <RonWhoCares> It appears the DVD drive and some USB ports were compromised in the spill
[01:50] <kostkon> blahdeblah, indeed. all of them offer .debs or ppas though. search webupd8.org or omgubuntu.co.uk for that info
[01:51] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: what kind of spill was it? ( im an expert on these, i learned my lesson though and never drink use the laptop as a coaster anymore )
[01:51] <RonWhoCares> some type of milk shake
[01:51] <EriC^^> ahh, that could be problematic
[01:51] <RonWhoCares> Right
[01:51] <EriC^^> after a while the key's will go crispy and sticky
[01:52] <RonWhoCares> Keyboard is toast
[01:52] <OerHeks> green things will grow
[01:52] <RonWhoCares> So I would like to put the ISO directly onto the hard drive
[01:53] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: this seems odd, when you mount the image, how will you run the installer?
[01:53] <RonWhoCares> Isn't the installed what I downloaded
[01:53] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: This ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.
[01:53] <RonWhoCares> or does it have to be elsewhere
[01:53] <OerHeks> install ubuntu normally without any special videodrivers, and transfer will take a longer boot 1st time, but will do.
[01:55] <blahdeblah> RonWhoCares: Can you explain your ultimate goal a bit more?  Are you trying to install Ubuntu to an external hard disk from your working system, then put that hard disk into the target computer to run it?
[01:55] <RonWhoCares> blahdeblah: correct
[01:57] <blahdeblah> RonWhoCares: There is probably a better way to do that using the installer, but I'm not familiar with the process.
[01:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: boot up a live usb, and install ubuntu to the hdd you want to transfer
[01:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: be sure to install the bootloader onto it
[02:03] <daftykins> EriC^^: sadly RonWhoCares has mentioned the DVD and USB ports are damaged from the spill
[02:03] <EriC^^> daftykins: yeah i mean on the working pc
[02:03] <RonWhoCares> I am using a different computer
[02:03] <daftykins> EriC^^: oh yeah, haha silly me
[02:04] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: i just was thinking about something, if you can open up the laptop and clean it, it might work again,
[02:04] <daftykins> RonWhoCares: are you wanting to avoid putting the spare drive into yours to install to... or is it not an option?
[02:05] <EriC^^> btw i think the keyboard shouldn't be a problem if it works again, i just remembered spilling pepsi and such didn't cause issues, it was only when stuff was hot, like coffee + sugar
[02:06] <EriC^^> or it could be something to do with something else
[02:06] <EriC^^> report back!
[02:06] <EriC^^> :P
[02:07] <blahdeblah> EriC^^, RonWhoCares: Certain Lenovo ThinkPads have spill holes that direct liquid away from critical components.  Worth looking into. ;-)
[02:08] <blahdeblah> kostkon: Thanks for the recommendation - simplescreenrecorder did the trick nicely and worked perfectly first time!
[02:10] <kostkon> blahdeblah, :)
[02:20] <navetz> hey guys, can someone help me fix my ubuntu menus? http://i.imgur.com/Bxekxj0.png
[02:20] <daftykins> navetz: did you restart after what i suggested above?
[02:21] <navetz> daftykins, it fixed the icons on the top left but not the menus
[02:21] <navetz> top right *
[02:24] <daftykins> navetz: ah that's weird. have a run through of the options here - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[02:45] <failfarm> anyone using unity3d on ubuntu ?
[02:46] <daftykins> failfarm: ask the actual question :)
[02:46] <failfarm> :)
[02:47] <failfarm> do you have monodevlop working
[02:48] <failfarm> well it might not matter i think my video card started to fail
[02:48] <failfarm> be back in a bit
[02:49] <daftykins> heh
[02:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> Just like you don't ask if anyone in here can type. :)
[02:55] <ovnicraft> hi i am using 14.04 at lenovo l430, so i want to know if anyone has working trakpoint w/o lose two finger scroll in touchpad ?
[02:56] <metaf5> I've got a hopefully-not-too-stupid question...  what's the best way for me to include ubuntu packages into a custom ubuntu install image?  I'm looking for a general answer, but in this specific case, I'm trying to add apache ant.
[02:58] <aire> Hello. I've noticed that some games (Supertux, Globulation) display on a small window. Is there a way to maximize it? I haven't found by close or minimize....
[03:03] <OerHeks> aire, supertux: go into soptions for fullscreen
[03:07] <openfly> hey all i am in the middle of an upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 and texlive has bombed out the upgrade process
[03:07] <oswaldo_> hola
[03:08] <openfly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tex-common/+bug/1236951  <--- might be related to this
[03:08] <openfly> no idea how to proceed though
[03:08] <openfly> basically apt is now fubar mid upgrade because of texlive.
[03:08] <openfly> any suggestions on how to proceed beyond doing manual removes of packages and associated entries in apt?
[03:09] <daftykins> openfly: was it from a PPA?
[03:09] <openfly> no
[03:09] <daftykins> yeah i'd remove with dpkg -r then try to resume
[03:09] <openfly> hell of a lot of dependencies...
[03:09] <openfly> this is going to be a giant PITA
[03:10] <kostkon> openfly, many possible solutions in the comments
[03:10] <minimec> openfly: Try to 'sudo apt-get purge texlive-base', then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:10] <openfly> 5Pcan't
[03:10] <openfly> can't execute a purge until the apt repo figures out the install
[03:10] <openfly> i can run apt-get -f install
[03:11] <openfly> and that's about it
[03:11] <openfly> and it is in a bomb out loop
[03:11] <kostkon> openfly, what's the full output
[03:11] <daftykins> pastebin it ^
[03:12] <Megabyte> Hi, guys
[03:12] <Megabyte> Lately, I noticed that Wine improved dramatically in application compatibility
[03:12] <agus> hello
[03:12] <Megabyte> Why is that?
[03:13] <Megabyte> I've checked a few programs that were always "garbage":
[03:13] <BetyChan> Hola
[03:13] <Megabyte> Fritz, Photoshop...
[03:13] <agus> hola
[03:13] <Megabyte> these run really well now
[03:13] <BetyChan> Cómo andas?
[03:13] <openfly> kostkon too long for a buffer
[03:13] <Megabyte> The only one that still seems to refuse to run is InDesign
[03:13] <openfly> waaaaay too long
[03:13] <daftykins> Megabyte: i'd join the WINE channel and ask them.
[03:14] <Megabyte> daftykins you mean wine-hq?
[03:14] <kostkon> openfly, redirect it to a file
[03:14] <Megabyte> Wait... where's the wine channel?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !wine | Megabyte
[03:14] <Megabyte> Thanks
[03:15] <cfhowlett> agus, ask your ubuntu question
[03:15] <daftykins> Megabyte: yep WINE channel = channel for WINE
[03:15] <agus> WHAT??
[03:15] <OerHeks> nice question.
[03:16] <openfly> attempting:  dpkg -l | grep texlive | awk '{print $2}' | sort | xargs dpkg -r
[03:18] <openfly> might need a couple iterationgs
[03:18] <openfly> but seems to be making some progress
[03:18] <ajeet> hi
[03:19] <lokoum> hello
[03:24] <nrgyzerbenny> I have multiple ubuntu installations and they both have bootloaders, could that cause any problems?
[03:24] <nrgyzerbenny> I have multiple ubuntu installations and they both have grub, could that cause any problems?
[03:25] <daftykins> why do you have that setup?
[03:25] <lokoum> i don't think
[03:25] <nrgyzerbenny> Because grub is installed by default.
[03:25] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, choose not to install grubs bootloader.  update your preferred bootloader.  problem solved.
[03:25] <nrgyzerbenny> The first installation seems to have dominance.
[03:26] <nrgyzerbenny> How would i uninstall grub bootloader?
[03:26] <openfly> http://paste.openstack.org/show/116132/
[03:26] <openfly> now this is fun
[03:26] <openfly> i think i may have encountered a circular dependency in texlive
[03:26] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, actually the last bootloader installed will dominate.  don't uninstall your grub, just don't install a new grub.
[03:27] <nrgyzerbenny> Then i guess mine may not have grub then.
[03:27] <nrgyzerbenny> How do i add ascii images to grub?
[03:28] <nrgyzerbenny> I'm currently customizing a gaming rig.
[03:28] <nrgyzerbenny> And i'm not familiar with customizing grub.
[03:28] <daftykins> this channel tends to be about serious issues of support
[03:28] <cfhowlett> !grub2
[03:29] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, you'll have to read a bit.  what you describe has been done.
[03:29] <nrgyzerbenny> Yes, i know, i'm actually basing it upon a grub screen i once saw in a youtube video
[03:30] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, ... oooookay.  try this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Multiple_OS_Installation
[03:30] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, see the 3rd paragraph "Warning ... "
[03:31] <nrgyzerbenny> I'm actually using grub-customizer for it.
[03:33] <cfhowlett> nrgyzerbenny, about the most exotic thing typically seen in this channel is dual boot.  you're going to have to do serious research since your end-goal is relatively rare.
[03:34] <nrgyzerbenny> I'll try a customized dual boot screen then
[03:35] <nrgyzerbenny> I'll use burg.
[03:35] <openfly> okay side stepped bug... posted notes to bug i think it was related to
[03:35] <openfly> kinda ugly solution though
[03:35] <t0ntin> is it ok to paste a link here to ask a question?
[03:36] <nrgyzerbenny> In a day i've learned to use apt and compile c++.
[03:37] <openfly> thanks for listening to gripes and giving advice
[03:40] <mashu> hey
[03:41] <mashu> i want to create code
[03:41] <Bashing-om> t0ntin: Posting a link is fine, asking a question is fine, just ask and see if there is a response.
[03:41] <mashu> that adds an extra for loop
[03:41] <mashu> each time it loops
[03:41] <mashu> how would i do that
[03:41] <mashu> say i want to print
[03:41] <mashu> for i in [a,b,c]: print i
[03:41] <mashu> so i get a b c
[03:42] <mashu> but then i want to an extra for loop
[03:42] <mashu> and have
[03:42] <daftykins> mashu: this is not a channel for coding, find one for the language you're dealing with.
[03:42] <mashu> i thought this was learn to program daftykins
[03:42] <mashu> but okay
[03:50] <Seonfr> hi, how do I start unity 8 from the terminal?
[03:51] <Seonfr> or even better, are there any nice-looking DMs not using Xorg?
[03:53] <elhoir> Seonfr, XMir, but itsw not "ready"
[03:53] <t0ntin> I was trying to change my default file manager, so I ran these three commands from this web page: http://www.noobslab.com/2014/02/set-nemo-as-default-file-manager-in.html . Now I cannot see any desktop icons or right click the desktop. Any ideas?
[03:54] <Seonfr> elhoir, so with XMir I can use lightdm unity greeter, which requires xorg?
[03:54] <elhoir> yes, with the package xserver-xorg-video-mir (or something like this)
[03:55] <elhoir> this package allows an Xorg server nested in top of Mir
[03:56] <elhoir> but i have not tested it
[03:56] <Seonfr> so it starts automatically on boot?
[03:58] <Seonfr> it doesn't seem to work
[03:58] <Seonfr> do i have to start it somehow?
[04:01] <ovnicraft> i am looking for xorg.conf, so 14.04 has not, i could create it to add a device and wont be problems with other devices ?
[04:02] <elhoir> Seonfr, what have you done?
[04:03] <Seonfr> elhoir: I've installed xserver-xorg-xmir, rebooted, and tried to start lightdm
[04:03] <elhoir> nah
[04:03] <elhoir> you just installed the way xorg is nested in mir
[04:03] <elhoir> but you didnt actually install the Mir server
[04:03] <Seonfr> i had installed unity8-mir-something earlier
[04:04] <elhoir> try this --- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop-mir && sudo reboot
[04:04] <elhoir> (i think it works if you just kill Xorg , without needing reboot, but as i said, i havent tested this)
[04:05] <Seonfr> I don't have Xorg
[04:05] <elhoir> huh?
[04:05] <elhoir> you do
[04:05] <elhoir> for sure
[04:05] <Seonfr> no, i don't
[04:05] <elhoir> and what are you using=?
[04:07] <Seonfr> I have these packages on ubuntu server: unity8-desktop-session-mir lightdm (no recommends) unity-greeter xserver-xorg-xmir
[04:07] <Seonfr> lightdm needs xorg, can i get it to use xmir?
[04:07] <elhoir> ah, you are in server edition
[04:08] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, server?  with a gui? but why?
[04:09] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, I want to use unity8 with mir on my laptop, and i don't see why i need unity7 on it, and all those lens things, and anyway, I use the packages included in the server install
[04:10] <elhoir> you installed the wrong edition :)
[04:10] <elhoir> you should have installed desktop, not server :)
[04:11] <daftykins> pretty sure mir is non-final and thus not supported yet.
[04:11] <cfhowlett> !mir | Seonfr,
[04:11] <amporabipo> hi
[04:11] <elhoir> still, you can install the ubuntu-desktop-mir package
[04:11] <elhoir> and it will do the rest
[04:11] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, if you insist on mir, you are in fact beta testing - you break it, you fix it.
[04:12] <Seonfr> Yes, but desktop comes with unity 7, x org, and those stupid lens packages,  and I want unity 8 with mir
[04:12] <elhoir> desktop-MIR
[04:12] <elhoir> :)
[04:13] <Romance> Hello please help me, my ISP dont give ipv6, so im thinking can i do ssh tunneling from my vps (has ipv6) and then open any ipv6 website from my computer? please
[04:13] <elhoir> i dont know if it will install unity 7 or 8, through
[04:13] <elhoir> Romance, why do u need ipv6?
[04:14] <Seonfr> it's also going to install xorg
[04:14] <Romance> elhoir: the same question to why i need internet
[04:14] <elhoir> ?
[04:14] <elhoir> im on Internet and i dont have ipv6 in my router
[04:15] <daftykins> Romance: there are plenty of IPv6 tunnel brokers out there, set one of those up maybe.
[04:15] <daftykins> Romance: but your desire to have this is utterly pointless.
[04:16] <Seonfr> also, ubuntu-desktop-mir doesn't seem to include unity
[04:16] <Seonfr> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-desktop-mir
[04:16] <yuko> Hello, I recently installed Ubuntu on my machine, but my web browsing is slow
[04:17] <yuko> My connection is good, but my browser is ultra slow
[04:18] <yuko> Any ideas?
[04:19] <yuko> Something in the settings perhaps?
[04:19]  * elhoir goes to bed
[04:19] <elhoir> see u guys
[04:19] <Seonfr> elhoir, what if I just start unity8 from the command line? how do i do that?
[04:19] <amporabipo> Hi ¡, i recently ubuntu in my computer after tenia windows 8
[04:20] <elhoir> Seonfr, you probably have to install everything from scratch
[04:20] <flamedoge> yuko, what system? what browser? htop?
[04:20] <elhoir> something like
[04:20] <amporabipo> no hablo muy bien ingles U.u en echo es que no puedo eliminar unas particiones que hago
[04:20] <amporabipo> ?¿
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !es | amporabipo
[04:20] <Seonfr> elhoir, I have unity 8 installed, but I just need the command to run it
[04:21] <elhoir> the DM should do it
[04:21] <yuko> flamedoge, Ubuntu 3.13.0-36-generic
[04:21] <yuko> flamedoge, the latest install, everything is up to date
[04:21] <Seonfr> Yes, but the dm doesn't start without xorg
[04:21] <amporabipo> Gracias
[04:22] <elhoir> Seonfr, sorry but i have no idea about that
[04:22] <EriC^^> Seonfr: who says unity starts without xorg?
[04:22] <flamedoge> run top/htop while browsing
[04:22] <yuko> flamedoge, Firefox, Chrome, any browser
[04:22] <Seonfr> my original question what "How do I start unity 8 from the command line or are there any DMs that don't need xorg?"
[04:22] <flamedoge> shift esc on chrome
[04:22] <Seonfr> EriC^^: unity 8 with mir
[04:23] <flamedoge> anything noticeable?
[04:24] <yuko> flamedoge, What am I looking for?
[04:24] <flamedoge> any high CPU% processes?
[04:24] <agent_white> Evenin' folks!
[04:24] <flamedoge> what hardware are u running on
[04:24] <yuko> flamedoge,  CPU is okay and memory is okay...
[04:26] <lokoum> what's your browser ?
[04:26] <yuko> flamedoge, none
[04:26] <yuko> lokum: none
[04:26] <daftykins> for the second time, just to be clear... mir is unsupported right now.
[04:27] <flamedoge> yuko, none?
[04:27] <yuko> flamedoge, Oops, ANY
[04:27] <Seonfr> ok, but even if it's not supported I can install it, right?
[04:27] <yuko> Any browser
[04:27] <lokoum> yuko, what is your problem ?
[04:28] <yuko> lokum: browser delay
[04:28] <yuko> browsing takes a g e s
[04:28] <yuko> http://pastebin.com/Eidxq2Nc
[04:28] <yuko> my specs
[04:29] <sosby> So I set a monitor to off in the Displays settings interface and it then disappeared from the list of displays. How should I go about reenabling the monitor again?
[04:29] <yuko> Some setting is weird, massive delay
[04:29] <flamedoge> xpress 200m is pretty old
[04:29] <flamedoge> what does cat /proc/cpuinfo say
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:31] <EriC^^> Seonfr: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html
[04:31] <mint> morning. what is the help channel link?
[04:31] <EriC^^> Seonfr: and to install http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/installing_prebuilt_on_pc.html
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> mint: help for what exactly?
[04:31] <cfhowlett> mint, you're IN the ubuntu help channel
[04:31] <yuko> flamedoge, many things
[04:32] <yuko> flamedoge, but it takes ages for pastebin to load
[04:32] <flamedoge> what does model name say
[04:32] <flamedoge> copy and paste here
[04:32] <yuko> You see, this is fast enough
[04:32] <yuko> but the browser is sooo slow
[04:32] <yuko> flamedoge, You cannot paste here! It is against the ubuntu irc etiquette!
[04:32] <lokoum> all browsers are slow ?
[04:33] <Seonfr> ill try that
[04:33] <flamedoge> it should be one-liner
[04:33] <yuko> noooo
[04:33] <mint> probably in the wrong place
[04:33] <flamedoge> model name   : <name>?
[04:33] <mint> looking for help with grub that has hijacked my bios
[04:34] <mint> linux mint distro
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !mint | mint
[04:34] <yuko> http://pastebin.com/tmnifjfH
[04:34] <yuko> here!
[04:34] <mint> thanks, sorry to bother you
[04:35] <flamedoge> yuko, im afraid celeron is considered a slow processor
[04:35] <yuko> flamedoge, ummm, no
[04:35] <yuko> flamedoge, this would not impede the browser...\
[04:35] <yuko> surely...?
[04:35] <RonWhoCares> Can I install Grub2
[04:35] <flamedoge> what kind of content are you loading on brwoser
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !grub2
[04:35] <yuko> flamedoge, text and images
[04:35] <yuko> simple stuff
[04:36] <lokoum> not video ? haha
[04:36] <yuko> I am not playing browser games
[04:36] <flamedoge> what about cat /proc/meminfo
[04:44] <dlam> hmm how can i make sure my 'memcached' service starts on a boot?
[04:44] <cfhowlett_> !nick
[04:45] <bimal> can i ask ubuntu desktop related questions here?
[04:46] <lokoum> sure
[04:46] <bimal> i am having issue with nam in ubuntu 14.04
[04:47] <bimal> when i compile my nam file its showing segmentation fault
[04:47] <bimal> how can i fix it
[04:48] <lokoum> sorry I don't know nam but post your code in pastebin and give us the link
[04:49] <bimal> what is LD_LIBRARY_PATH  ?
[04:50] <daftykins> an environment variable
[04:50] <bimal> what is it used for?
[04:50] <mint> sorry, but they're not helping me in the linux mint chatroom, it's a general question about grub. can I ask you guys?
[04:50] <daftykins> no.
[04:50] <mint> lovely
[04:50] <daftykins> you're on the correct network for mint?
[04:51] <daftykins> !mint
[04:51] <EriC^^> mint: are you talking about spotchat?
[04:51] <mint> yes sir
[04:51] <EriC^^> odd
[04:51] <mint> I said the "s" word and got promptly booted
[04:52] <EriC^^> s word?
[04:52] <mint> will i get booted here?
[04:52] <daftykins> mint: the antics of another channel do not concern us
[04:52] <mint> yah
[04:52] <lokoum> lulz
[04:52] <mint> thats just unfriendly
[04:52] <mint> so red font
[04:52] <mint> i'm out
[04:52] <mint> just to be clear
[04:52] <sosby> mint, also try #grub
[04:53] <mint> the comment was i was in charge of sat phones in iraq and cannot figure out this shit
[04:53] <mint> and got promptly booted
[04:53] <mint> gnight
[04:53] <daftykins> people today, so entitled
[04:53] <lokoum> hahaha
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to zero a windows drive from ubuntu livecd without deleting the recovery partition?
[04:54] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: maybe zero out the partitions?
[04:54] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: dd just the partition.
[04:54] <daftykins> EriC^^: ^5 \o/
[04:54] <daftykins> i have to sleep, your shift EriC^^ :)
[04:54] <EriC^^> ^5 \o/
[04:54] <EriC^^> lol
[04:55] <EriC^^> gnight :)
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: and that will prevent getting back data recovering after reinstall of windows right
[04:55] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah i think so
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ok tnx
[04:56] <EriC^^> np
[05:08] <Eremo> offtopic, do someone knows about legend of five rings?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> !ot | Eremo
[05:11] <clepto> im having an issue on ubuntu 14.04.1, for some reason my lan wont run at gigabit speeds. i have a cat-5e cable a gigabit nic and a gigabit router... cant figure out what the issue is. would anyone be willing to help me figure this out?
[05:13] <clepto> also i have to do this through the command line if at all possible as its operating as a headless box
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> clepto: maybe mtr can help you traceroute connection
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !info mtr | clepto
[05:21] <clepto> lutuspsycheje: i did this just now. http://pastebin.com/2y8hzsN6
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> clepto: did your realtek ever had full speeds on other ubuntu version?
[05:24] <clepto> lotuspsycheje: yes when i was running mint 13 but decided to switch back to ubuntu
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> clepto: did you install ubuntu with internet during setup?
[05:25] <clepto> lotuspsychje: Yes
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> clepto: maybe its not the right realtek firmware driver, so speeds drop?
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> clepto: any other driver show at 'additional drivers' section?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> clepto: also check realteks website for updates drivers/firmware
[05:26] <clepto> lotuspsychje: honestly i have no clue i know enough to get into trouble but thats about it. how do i pull up the drivers using a shell? its a headless unit and would be a pain to attach a monitor right now
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> clepto: install links2 to browse the web for drivers :p
[05:27] <clepto> lotuspsycheje: i was more talking about the aditional drivers too or to even see what driver it is currently running
[05:28] <Noobuntu> Anyone online?
[05:28] <clepto> lotuspsycheje: ok i see what driver it is running i already pulled that but how do i do the aditional drivers tool
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> clepto: not sure howto on commandline sorry
[05:29] <clepto> lotuspsycheje: i know i did that when i did the install and all i saw listed was stuff for my nvidia card but that was about 2 weeks ago
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> clepto: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know a commandline way
[05:30] <clepto> ill give it a shot thanks
[05:31] <Guest21926> Can someone help me?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest21926: just ask your question here mate
[05:31] <Guest21926> My Ubuntu wont load
[05:32] <Ben64> Guest21926: what does it do
[05:32] <Guest21926> It goes to the loading screen then turns blank
[05:33] <Guest21926> I pressed f12 and it ends at a code
[05:33] <Ben64> has it loaded before
[05:33] <Guest21926> Yes
[05:33] <Ben64> what has changed since then
[05:34] <Guest21926> From my memory I haven't changed it much
[05:34] <Ben64> what code do you see
[05:34] <Guest21926> I'm rebooting it right now
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Guest21926: can you still enter grub?
[05:34] <lokoum> did you try to access tty ? (ctrl+alt+f1)
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> its strange, since 14.04 i never seen any corrupted setup yet myself
[05:36] <Guest21926> The last code is "Use of uninitialised value in concatenation (.) or string at usr/share/per15/Debconf/Config.pm line 23
[05:36] <Guest21926> 22*
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> Guest21926: ubuntu version and system specs?
[05:37] <chaotix> hey..  i need to temporarily set a static ip address, but every time i change the /etc/network/interfaces file and then run sudo networking restart, i am unable to connect again until i undo the change to the interfaces file and restart the network again...  it must be something in the way i am editing the file..  can someone help?
[05:40] <auscompgeek> chaotix: if it's only temporary, why don't you set it using ifconfig?
[05:41] <clepto> lotuspsychje: i think the server guys are asleep ;)
[05:49] <solomonix> anyone have any experience getting bumblebee running on 14.04 with the latest nVidia drivers?
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> !optimus | solomonix
[05:51] <OoTLink> Hi :) What would be the most bullet proof way to get a remote desktop server running that will start up on its own every time the computer starts.. and wil work with tightvnc with a password and no funky ass config? :)
[05:52] <OoTLink> because in my experience the built in one almost never works
[05:52] <OoTLink> -_-
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | OoTLink
[05:53] <OoTLink> doing it over the internet isn't necessary, the machine is in the same room on my network, I'd just prefer not to touch the dan gthing
[05:53] <OoTLink> it's like that gif out there
[05:53] <OoTLink> where the sysadmin guy gets out the flame thrower
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> OoTLink: you can use temperory teamviewer, but keep in mind remote software mostly a danger
[05:54] <chaotix> auscompgeek, that was way easier than what i was doing
[05:54] <chaotix> thanks  :)
[05:54] <OoTLink> ty
[06:02] <OoTLink> what cheeses me is that the built in remote desktop sharing doesn';t work if you use a password
[06:02] <OoTLink> at least not from vnc on other OSes
[06:02] <OoTLink> wtf is with that
[06:24] <chaotix> auscompgeek, i used sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[06:24] <chaotix> auscompgeek, which worked great...   just one more thing
[06:25] <chaotix> auscompgeek, how to go back to automatic
[06:28] <cornfeedhobo> i know this is an odd question, but could anyone tell me if /usr/share/nano/php.nanorc exists your system?
[06:29] <cornfeedhobo> s/your/their/
[06:29] <bekks> cornfeedhobo: How does that help you? :)
[06:30] <cornfeedhobo> nvm,  can just check the package file list
[06:30] <keoskes1> test. hello
[06:30] <cornfeedhobo> i can*
[06:30] <Linnak> Hi, Can I install Ubuntu Touch to a phone from Kubuntu?
[06:32] <agaurav77> do seagate external hard drives work well with ubuntu, or related linux distros?
[06:32] <agaurav77> anyone?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> agaurav77: yes
[06:33] <agaurav77> no problems, at all?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> agaurav77: wich problems are you having in mind?
[06:33] <agaurav77> i think the amazon page does not mention ubuntu/linux supported...
[06:34] <agaurav77> just wanted to be sure before buying
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> agaurav77: external media shows on ubuntu
[06:34] <agaurav77> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:35] <sgen__> does the <program> parameter of go tool pprof need to be in the same directory?
[06:36] <bekks> That would make sense :)
[06:36] <bekks> *no sense
[06:36] <sgen__> ok
[06:36] <bekks> sgen__: <program> is just a program name which can be found in $PATH
[06:37] <BQ> "E: Sense onlu is not understood, try true or false." when doing "apt-get update && apt-get install --only-upgrade bash"
[06:37] <bekks> BQ: Can you pastebin the full output please?
[06:37] <bekks> !pastebin | BQ
[06:41] <auscompgeek> chaotix: run some sort of dhcp client :)
[06:41] <sgen__> ok the program (geonames-transfer) is in my path (I can run it by calling geonames-transfer) and yet Im getting this error: 'geonames-transfer does not exist.' when I run 'go tool pprof geonames-transfer geonames-transfer.prof'
[06:41] <sgen__> Am I doing something wrong?
[06:42] <ecko> newbi here....
[06:43] <auscompgeek> sgen__: perhaps go doesn't search the PATH?
[06:43] <Alpy> hey, how do i go to system->preferences?
[06:43] <auscompgeek> sgen__: probably best to ask the golang channel anyway
[06:44] <sgen__> ...
[06:44] <keoskes> хейхо. test
[06:44] <sgen__> Didnt realize that I was posting here thanls
[06:44] <auscompgeek> sgen__: no worries :P
[06:45] <BQ> bekks: oh my input mistake. works now.
[06:47] <helmut_> hi
[06:50] <Alpy> where is the sytem preferences
[06:50] <Alpy> ?
[06:52] <chaotix> auscompgeek, i am not sure how i would do that
[06:53] <lakitu> alpy: try "K" start button, applications, settings, system settings
[06:54] <chaotix> auscompgeek, i tried sudo dhclient but it just hangs there
[06:57] <auscompgeek> chaotix: might help if you specify the interface as well. if you are, I would have no clue.
[06:58] <chaotix> auscompgeek, eth0
[06:58] <auscompgeek> chaotix: as in, tell dhclient which interface you want :P
[06:59] <chaotix> :) i did...  i just forgot to in here
[06:59] <chaotix> my bad
[06:59] <chaotix> i appreciate all the help
[07:00] <lakitu> alpy: oops wrong room. that's where it is in kde, not sure what desktop enviornment you have
[07:01] <Alpy> lakitu gnome 3
[07:02] <lakitu> i don't know offhand gnome 3, but try something parallel to what i described
[07:02] <lakitu> start button > ...
[07:02] <lakitu> (...)
[07:11] <chaotix> auscompgeek, would i need to be able to connect to the internet to reach the dchp server in order to get the dchp ip address?
[07:12] <Migho> Hi! Ummh, i suppose i can ask for help from here before posting my problem into the forum. I deleted CRYPT-LUKS partition, and before that partition were my partition where i keep all my photos. Later I noticed that the photos partition were unable to mount, and after some searching, i found out that "either the superblock or partition table is cor
[07:12] <Migho> rupt". After some googling i tried "sudo mke2fs -S /dev/xxx && sudo fsck /dev/xxx" but it ended into a silly amount of questions, so i terminated it. Now i tried to copy the partition with GParted, and it have been running command "e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sdc1" for 15 hours now, is it really fixing it, or is it messing it up more? :c anyone knows?
[07:13] <soahccc> chaotix: usually the DHCP is in your LAN so you need network but not necessarily internet (I'm btw out of context)
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[07:14] <bekks> Migho: Actually no one knows whats happening at that point, since after you deleted your partition, it is most likely just gone. Did you create a backup before?
[07:14] <SrKjL> excuse me
[07:14] <SrKjL> it is accident
[07:15] <Migho> I deleted other partition in the drive, not the photos partition
[07:15] <bekks> Migho: Did you create a backup before?
[07:15] <Migho> bekks: i did a long time ago but it dont contain all the photos :(
[07:16] <chaotix> soahccc, thanks
[07:19] <blognewb> hello?
[07:19] <blognewb> anyone of you guys running ubuntu on MBP 2014?
[07:22] <demonboy> so I am trying to install adb and fast boot by adding the respo and using the cmd $sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb android-fastboot-tools
[07:22] <demonboy> and I get an error saying unable to locate and yes I did the update cmd
[07:24] <auscompgeek> demonboy: it's android-tools-fastboot
[07:24] <auscompgeek> not android-fastboot-tools
[07:25] <demonboy> sorry tht was my typo its 2am I entered it like that
[07:25] <auscompgeek> (also, those packages are in the universe ubuntu repos now, no ppa necessary)
[07:26] <demonboy> doesnt tht mean I can just sudo apt get w/o needing he ppa
[07:26] <demonboy> the*
[07:28] <guest_47188> hi
[07:28] <guest_47188> hi
[07:29] <hussein> اه
[07:30] <guest_47188> Ciaò
[07:31] <everesttt> anyone know of a website where I can ask networking (networking protocol related) questions?
[07:31] <everesttt> *i mean irc channels not websites
[07:37] <everesttt> nevermind, found it ##networking :)
[07:55] <IamTomWallenfang> HI unopaste
[08:06] <logy> hey guys how to install gnome on a fresh ubuntu 14.04
[08:07] <frib> "sync" command is hanging and i dont know what to do, can anyone advise?
[08:08] <BQ> what is personality?
[08:12] <bekks> frib: Open a second terminal window and run "dmesg"
[08:12] <frib> bekks, i killed the process with kill -9
[08:16] <stim> hey there got problems according libc6 and locales:
[08:16] <stim> http://nopaste.info/a72eb6868c.html
[08:16] <stim> any suggestions?
[08:17] <stim> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[08:17] <ikonia> stim: what package are you installing
[08:17] <ikonia> stim: you've shown apt-get install -f
[08:18] <ikonia> stim: but what package caused the problem
[08:18] <stim> ikonia libc6 because it depends on locales
[08:18] <ikonia> it's cleraly something significan as it's removing sendmail and procmail
[08:18] <ikonia> stim: you can't remove libc
[08:18] <stim> i've pinned the dependencies for libc because need version 6
[08:18] <ikonia> then how do you expect it to work
[08:19] <ikonia> if you've pinned the dependencies, but it wants to upgrade them to update libc
[08:19] <ikonia> stim: again - what was the actual package/command you did before apt-get install -f
[08:19] <ikonia> what was the command that "broke" this ?
[08:19] <stim> what i exactly does was apt-get -t jessie install libc
[08:19] <stim> 6
[08:20] <ikonia> stim err no
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: you can't do that
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: jessie is debian
[08:20] <stim> i've done it
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: libc is also already installed and should not be changed
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: why did you do that ???
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: thats' not going to work
[08:20] <stim> because batctl (batman mesh) project requires libc6
[08:20] <ikonia> stim: that doesn't mean you can do that
[08:21] <ikonia> stim: have you added/changed any repos ?
[08:21] <stim> yes exacly give me a sec i'll post my sources.list
[08:21] <stim> http://nopaste.info/01d52b61c0.html
[08:22] <ikonia> stim: yeah - game over
[08:22] <ikonia> stim: you can't do that
[08:22] <ikonia> stim: I'd very strongly suggest you re-install and only use ubuntu repos
[08:22] <ikonia> you've created a problem with the mission critical C library your system uses
[08:22] <ikonia> get it back to a good state
[08:23] <stim> i can't reinstall system
[08:23] <ikonia> stim: you need to
[08:23] <stim> aren't there options?
[08:23] <ikonia> you're system will be in huge package conflict now
[08:23] <ikonia> you've updated your C library from a wrong/external distro
[08:23] <stim> and my system works fine
[08:23] <ikonia> you could manually fix this, but the effort/concern for it actually being %100 fixed is not something I believ ein
[08:23] <ikonia> stim: sorry - no it doesn't
[08:23] <stim> why?
[08:24] <stim> only my dependencies are messed up
[08:24] <ikonia> stim: because you've used a critical C library from the wrong version of a different distro
[08:24] <stim> can you please explain why that is so bad
[08:25] <stim> it won't fit in my head why i couldnt install a fresh version. are the functions included wich are different to the old version?
[08:25] <ikonia> because it's not designed to use your system
[08:25] <ikonia> stim: if you disagree, thats fine, carry on
[08:25] <ikonia> but your ubuntu support stance is now "out of support"
[08:25] <stim> what happens if i kicked the jessy sources out apt-get update
[08:26] <stim> apt-get install libc
[08:26] <ikonia> no
[08:26] <Ben64> then you probably have a bunch of stuff already broken
[08:26] <ikonia> you're depdencies are broken
[08:26] <ikonia> and as I said I wouldn't have confidence in reversing it as the C library is critical
[08:26] <stim> and things like what should be broken?
[08:27] <stim> it are just libfiles right? i know importent libfiles
[08:27] <ikonia> or I wouldn't "trust" the system
[08:27] <stim> as i said i havent notices problems jet exept the broken dependencies
[08:27] <stim> ikonia could you tell me how to try?
[08:27] <ikonia> no
[08:28] <ikonia> I'm not being part of that
[08:28] <stim> wow
[08:28] <ikonia> I strongly suggest you re-install your system
[08:28] <stim> it must be a huge problem
[08:28] <ikonia> if you don't want to, that's your decision
[08:28] <Ben64> it really isn't worth it to try to undo that. learn from this and reinstall
[08:28] <stim> easy to say
[08:29] <ikonia> then if it's that important you should have done more research before doing it, and not rushed in blind
[08:29] <ikonia> apologies if that sounds harsh, but it's the truth
[08:30] <stim> i'm in a gap between crying and shouting :-)
[08:30] <Oimel> Hi can s.o. help me with my Front panel audio device in my xbmcbuntu  (based on ubuntu )
[08:31] <stim> ikonia thank you for your help anyway
[08:32] <ikonia> sorry it's not what you want to hear
[08:36] <Oimel> Hi it seems that my Front panel audio Controller is not managed correctly from ubuntu. When i turn the volume Controller of it on the left the Sound gets quieter but if i turn it on the right it is not getting much louder  (20 louder steps are 1 time louder in xbmc)
[08:37] <Oimel> Has anyone an idea what could be wrong?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> Oimel, your specific hardware may/not be linux friendly or installed
[08:52] <aj> Has anyone here got Voobly and Age of Empires working on Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:52] <aj> I can run Age of empires individually, but the click area seems off. I have click a few pixels below the button for it to take effect
[08:55] <taxomoney> YYou mean AoE1?
[08:55] <taxomoney> aj
[08:55] <aj> AoC
[08:56] <taxomoney> As of now all the people in the forums say that its impossible.
[08:56] <aj> I have an AMD graphics card and I'm using fglrx
[08:56] <aj> ohh
[08:56] <aj> Well, I guess single player it is then.
[08:56] <taxomoney> It only works if you have an old version of wine, but even so you have to restart it after every match.
[08:56] <aj> When I run wine in windowed mode, it works fine, but voobly does not work
[08:57] <taxomoney> If you wait a little ill search for those links.
[08:57] <aj> not worth the effort
[08:57] <ikonia> depending on wine is a bad idea
[08:57] <aj> It's fine thanks
[08:58] <aj> ikonia, are there any alternatives to playing on voobly on ubuntu?
[08:59] <taxomoney> Its a real shame, not being able to play AoEII is actually my reason to still having a WinXP installation.
[08:59] <ikonia> aj: no
[08:59] <ikonia> aj: I suggest you use the OS it was designed for
[09:00] <cfhowlett> aj, perhaps you should demand a native linux version from the game publisher ...
[09:00] <aj> Publisher is MS lol
[09:00] <taxomoney> cfhowlett lol
[09:01] <saleh> .
[09:07] <cositronix> hello
[09:08] <cositronix> whats the topic here?
[09:09] <enchilado> cositronix: /topic
[09:09] <Guest82836> salut
[09:09] <ikonia> ubuntu support discussion
[09:09] <Guest82836>  /topic
[09:21] <koell> Hi there, I just have a weird problem on my dad's pc. He is using sylpheed email client and the folder list on the left is in its own window. How do I put this folder list back to the left of the screen so it is all a single window? I guess sylpheed is a gtk app, but I just down know how to "dock" both windows together.
[09:23] <cfhowlett> man rsync
[09:26] <th3_mol3> should I be worried about Shellshock?
[09:26] <cfhowlett> th3_mol3, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           will fix 12.04 and 14.04
[09:32] <th3_mol3> ty cfhowlett
[09:32] <cfhowlett> th3_mol3, happytohelp
[09:42] <cyberpolice> how do i open another vlc player in 14.04? i tried middle clicking the launcher icon
[09:47] <outofspace> hi guys , im having a problem in my ubuntu device
[09:47] <outofspace> cant even remove files
[09:47] <outofspace> when i try, it says:  rm git-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device
[09:48] <outofspace> df -h shows 100% full
[09:51] <tarelerulz_> I read that netflix should work natively in Ubuntu now.  If you can get the NSS 3.17 . How would I get that package?
[09:52] <Eduard_Munteanu> outofspace, try   truncate -s 0 git-bash
[09:53] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: check dpkg -l | grep libnss
[09:53] <cyberpolice> see all ur package is more than 3.17
[09:54] <kevin78> i will be hosting a game server on my pc in the basement that's running 24/7 soon, but is there any way i can avoid losing connection when getting ddosed without losing too much performance of my server connection?
[09:54] <kevin78> when i'm working on my other pc's
[09:54] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: try search libnss3 on ubuntu software center
[09:55] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: software updater
[09:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> kevin78, possibly TCP syncookies depending on the game
[09:56] <tarelerulz_> It says I have libnss3 2:3.15.4-1ubuntu7 .
[09:56] <kevin78> will try to look that up, thanks
[09:56] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: then you gotta do sofware updates
[09:56] <outofspace> Eduard_Munteanu thanks, i dont want to delete the entire git folder, only a certain path: git/folder1/logs
[09:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, a folder.
[09:57] <Eduard_Munteanu> outofspace, the above works for single files, try finding a large-ish one to free up a bit of space.
[10:00] <tarelerulz_> This may sound dumb ,but how do you update that package ?  I don't see an update feature on the gui on the package manger
[10:01] <Guest90066> Hi
[10:01] <Guest90066> Can I add many IP to my Ubuntu machine?
[10:01] <xangua> tarelerulz_: open the update manager
[10:02] <kevin78> i have another problem also, everytime i connect to my rdp with xrdp i get the error "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed:Cannot determine user of subject" (using Lubuntu)
[10:02] <kevin78>  i did some research about the problem and forums say PolicyKit Authentication Agent has to be unchecked, but for me it was unchecked already
[10:03] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: go to software update application
[10:03] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: sorry, "Software Updater"
[10:03] <tarelerulz_> What is it called ?
[10:04] <outofspace> Eduard_Munteanu thank u very much!
[10:05] <tarelerulz_> Wow  , really need to learn my system again
[10:05] <tarelerulz_> I'm in the software upater and in the update tap , important sercirty updates  and so on .  What do I turn on
[10:06] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: hm that doesnt sound familiar. i just got a small box saying 299 mb will be downloaded
[10:06] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: with a settings button, remind me later button, and install now button
[10:08] <tarelerulz_> There are two app when I put what you said in  software updater , software and updates
[10:08] <rzyz> Hello, last ubuntu with xfce, is there possibility to set the active window to bo allways on top by a shortcut?
[10:08] <tarelerulz_> I click the first one , its says I am update
[10:13] <tarelerulz_> This where I'm lost , its says I have libnss3  ,but it an old version.
[10:13] <bekks> tarelerulz_: Which Ubuntu release are you on?
[10:13] <tarelerulz_> 14.04
[10:14] <bekks> tarelerulz_: Then just run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:15] <tarelerulz_> Have any of you watched netflix on Ubuntu with the new 14.10 ?
[10:15] <k1l> tarelerulz_: for 14.10 better ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:17] <tarelerulz_> I ask for the simple reason that  nss is updated in 14.10 and That is what I read netflix needs.
[10:18] <tarelerulz_> Have any of you watched netflix on Ubuntu at all?
[10:19] <minimec> rzyz: Looks like this could be a solution http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8231
[10:20] <k1l> tarelerulz_: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/nss-updated-to-allow-native-html5.html
[10:20] <kevindf> hello, how can i set a azerty keyboard on xrdp?
[10:21] <k1l> tarelerulz_: "And with today's update, all the supported Ubuntu versions (12.04, 14.04 and 14.10 - currently in development) include NSS 3.17 so all that's left is for Netflix to add Ubuntu to their supported OS list, and Ubuntu users will have native Netflix HTML5 payback out of the box."
[10:22] <tarelerulz_> it is funny tell me it should work ,but no one for sure it it does at all.  I mean not find anything on the web other then new update should work.
[10:22] <minimec> tarelerulz_: Looks like trusty & utopic have the same version now of libnss3... So I guess lib nss has been updated in trusty... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libnss3&searchon=names
[10:23] <theperfectpunk> how can i run a script in background
[10:23] <kevindf> i'm trying to set azerty keyboard on my ubuntu server but can anyeone tell me what the "pc104" stands for in this command line? "setxkbmap –model pc104 –layout us –variant dvorak"
[10:23] <theperfectpunk> i tried adding & at the end
[10:23] <kevindf> obviously i have to change the other layout
[10:23] <theperfectpunk> but i need to keep the terminal open
[10:23] <theperfectpunk> i want to close the terminal after executing the script
[10:24] <rzyz> minimec, thanks, i will look at it
[10:25] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: i did have netflix working on livecd 14.04
[10:26] <tarelerulz_> That was all native no hack or  wine or anything like that
[10:26] <bekks> theperfectpunk: then use "nohup scriptname"
[10:28] <kevindf> can anyone tell me what the "pc104" stands for in this command line? "setxkbmap –model pc104 –layout us –variant dvorak"
[10:29] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: yeah, i updated nss, got google-chrome-stable, and installed a user agent extension and entered the user agent string from a website (i cant find it), and then enabled html5 player in netflix settings
[10:29] <cyberpolice> tarelerulz_: i had a problem, it wasnt working immediately, but i just restarted chrome again and it worked after that
[10:29] <cyberpolice> i got upto 1280x720 on netflix.com 3000 kbps in their testing video
[10:30] <bekks> kevindf: it stands for a pc keyboard with 104 keys.
[10:30] <kevindf> ok thanks bekks
[10:30] <kevindf> do you have any idea to set a belgium azerty keyboard layout what i should use? setxkbmap –model pc104 –layout be –variant dvorak?
[10:30] <aksnot> hello guys how can use more than 1 nic for internet access on 12.04 ? Thanks . Any insight appreciated .
[10:32] <bekks> kevindf: do you want to use dvorak?
[10:32] <kevindf> i'm not sure what the azerty keyboard layout is called
[10:33] <bekks> kevindf: not dvorak ;)
[10:33] <kevindf> :)
[10:33] <bekks> kevindf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[10:34] <Fuchs> kevindf: be  should be belgian azerty
[10:34] <Fuchs> kevindf: both -variant and -model are quite probably not needed
[10:34] <kevindf> ok
[10:34] <kevindf> thanks
[10:36] <kevindf> weird
[10:36] <Fuchs> hm?
[10:36] <kevindf> when i do cd/etc/rdp and after that "setxkbmap -layout be i get "XKB extension not present on :13.0
[10:37] <kevindf> cd /etc/xrdp*
[10:37] <Fuchs> kevindf: wait, are you in a graphical environment or on a VT?
[10:37] <kevindf> i'm using lubuntu
[10:37] <kevindf> so graphical, as i'm not familiar with the commands enough in order to go fully server
[10:38] <Firefly67> hi, my middle mouse button is not copy-pasting any longer, how can I fix this?
[10:38] <Fuchs> kevindf: okay, that's an oddly high Display number ... anything special you are running?   Also just  setxkbmap be    should work, even though that should not matter
[10:39] <kevindf> i'm not running anything at the moment
[10:39] <kevindf> but at the start when i connect to xrdp from windows i do get a error
[10:39] <Fuchs> oh, xrdp
[10:39] <Fuchs> yeah, that's something entirely different
[10:39] <kevindf> :)
[10:40] <Fuchs> kevindf: you need to use xrdp-genkeymap for that
[10:40] <sriram> hi
[10:40] <Fuchs> for that you need to find out the correct code (as in: numbers, unfortunately) for Belgium. I don't know that one by heart
[10:41] <Fuchs> I assume it should be google-able though
[10:41] <kevindf> like for example xrdp-genkeymap km-0409.ini but then with the code from my country
[10:41] <Fuchs> yes.
[10:41] <kevindf> i'm fine with the french layout also if your familiar with that code :)
[10:41] <kevindf> but if not i'll take a look on google
[10:42] <minimec> kevindf: Can you have a look at /etc/default/keyboard ? If you set XKBLAYOUT="be" in there... you should be ok...
[10:42] <Fuchs> neither I'm afraid, I use the Swiss variant
[10:42] <Fuchs> minimec: not for xrdp, no
[10:43] <minimec> Fuchs: Oh. OK.
[10:43] <Fuchs> kevindf: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=3858  there you go
[10:44] <kevindf> thanks alot
[10:44] <kevindf> appreciate it
[10:45] <Fuchs> you're welcome,
[10:45] <Fuchs> and an alot is this: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ch/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
[10:45] <Fuchs> ;p
[10:48] <cyberpolice> whoever was havin problem with netflix on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/CBZRX3k.jpg
[10:52] <mehdi_> hey guys my archive manager folder column disappear how can i restore it?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:53] <pinumbernumber> okay, the panic I mentioned doesn't seem to be happening in 3.17-rc6, so it looks like a kernel radeon bug indeed
[10:53] <minimec> mehdi_: 'F9' or 'View' in the menu...
[10:54] <mehdi_> minimec, well it just opens  a panel nit besides size,type columns
[10:55] <mehdi_> tanx anyway
[10:58] <minimec> mehdi_: http://snag.gy/XN9xi.jpg
[11:06] <Fohlen> hey guys, dumb question, but how could I enable CONFIG_IP_NF_RAW and CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE in my kernel configuration (where to find it)?
[11:09] <minimec> Fohlen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[11:09] <Fohlen> grazie
[11:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> I'd expect at least mangle to be enabled by default.
[11:12] <Eduard_Munteanu> Perhaps one just needs to modprobe ipt_mangle
[11:15] <minimec> folivora: Eduard_Munteanu: Right. Both modules are available in a standard Ubuntu kernel --> 3.13.0-35-generic 'CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE=m' 'CONFIG_IP_NF_RAW=m'
[11:16] <MagicSpud> hello trying sudo apt-get update && upgrade I got this error:  nis
[11:16] <MagicSpud> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> The OP quit a few mins ago.
[11:16] <MagicSpud> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:16] <Eduard_Munteanu> MagicSpud, anything else?
[11:18] <MagicSpud> with this: $ sudo apt-get install -f      I get this: Configurando nis (3.17-32ubuntu6) ...
[11:18] <MagicSpud> invoke-rc.d: dangling symlink: /etc/rc2.d/S20ypbind
[11:18] <MagicSpud> dpkg: error al procesar el paquete nis (--configure):
[11:18] <MagicSpud>  el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 102
[11:18] <MagicSpud> Se encontraron errores al procesar:
[11:18] <MagicSpud>  nis
[11:18] <unopaste> MagicSpud you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:19] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8446964/
[11:19] <MagicSpud> Eduard_Munteanu there you can see the output
[11:19] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8446964/
[11:20] <TenLeftFingers> I've successfully created some .desktop entries for some retro games I'm emulating. However, instead of showing up with other games in the Unity dash I'd like to have a new application sub-sections (something like "Retro Games" or "Commodore"). Does this mean I need a new lense or scope?
[11:24] <zy3pD> you can do it with a new lens
[11:29] <yony45> https://www.facebook.com/SoccerTips4Sure
[11:30] <TenLeftFingers> Thanks zy3pD. I'm looking at a tutorial here http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/04/how-to-create-a-wikipedia-unity-lens-for-ubuntu/ and will see how it goes.
[11:35] <jost> Does someone know a channel for AIDE (Intrusion detection)? It's not #aide.
[11:36] <basiclaser> hey guys, I have a new full time job as a webdesigner!
[11:37] <basiclaser> but my boss just gave me a repo full of php files, which i've never used before. It basically seems like a twitter-bootstrap website but everything ends in .php instead.
[11:37] <basiclaser> i installed apache, mysql and php5, but im not sure how i can serve it all to work on it
[11:38] <cfhowlett> !lamp | basiclaser
[11:41] <sajan> hello friends
[11:41] <sajan> i have installed ubuntu 64 bit.........when i press alt+f2 i am not able to see the command menu like in gnome shell......how can i see?/
[11:46] <minimec> sajan: I don't use unity, but if you don't have the run dialog, try running this 'gnome-panel-control --run-dialog' in a terminal. If it is convenient, add a shortcut in the keyboards menu.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> sajan, if you right click on the desktop do you see 'run command' in the dialog?
[11:48] <MagicSpud> I cant neither open synaptic now nor uninstall the damn NIS package which is causing the upgrade to fail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8446964/
[11:49] <desiderio> hello
[11:49] <desiderio> anybody knows the server name for mint ???
[11:54] <facepalm> desiderio, it's on spotchat.
[11:54] <desiderio> well i don't have spotchat , i just add it ?
[11:54] <sajan> i am actually trying to setup adt bundle but i get this error   http://minus.com/lbbnkPvCP4GKQs
[11:55] <facepalm> desiderio, http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/12
[11:56] <desiderio_> help where linuxmint server irc chat ?
[11:56] <bekks> !mint | desiderio_
[11:56] <desiderio_> is not taking me there spotchat
[11:56] <desiderio_> it says misspell server
[11:57] <bekks> desiderio_: What is "it"?
[11:57] <desiderio_> trying to connect to the linux mint official irc channel but i can't
[11:57] <ikonia> how is that an ubuntu issue /
[11:58] <desiderio_> well i was hoping somebody can guide to fix
[11:58] <ikonia> no
[11:58] <ikonia> spell the server name right
[11:58] <desiderio_> i did
[11:59] <desiderio_> spotchat
[11:59] <bekks> The message says you didnt.
[11:59] <[SLB]> desiderio_, /server irc.spotchat.org -j #linuxmint-help
[11:59] <facepalm> desiderio, they have a website, google it.
[11:59] <desiderio__> i already google it
[11:59]  * facepalm  
[12:00] <minimec> MagicSpud: What if you renamed the 'nis' package in '/var/cache/apt/archives'? If you are lucky it gets 'skipped' when using 'sudo apt-get -f install'.
[12:02] <MagicSpud> minimec I will try
[12:05] <cfhowlett> desiderio__, this isn't mint support.  suggest you go to the mint page for further information
[12:06] <MagicSpud> minimec no files under that directory
[12:06] <MagicSpud> only one called locl
[12:06] <MagicSpud> lock
[12:10] <minimec> MagicSpud: Looks that I am missing something. You are in a upgrade process right? I was pretty sure that all packages would land in '/var/cache/apt/archives', but it may be different in a upgrade process.
[12:12] <mehdi__> i dont have name in my Archive manager
[12:12] <mehdi__> how can i view it?
[12:14] <MagicSpud> minimec yes I tried sudo apt-get install -f and then sudo apt-get update && upgrade the process seemed to be working it asked me for keeping or updating some config files and then when it came to dpkg the nis program the errors show up and the configure process ended
[12:16] <MagicSpud> now I cannot access synaptic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447307/
[12:22] <bekks> MagicSpud: Try running sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; and pastebin the entire output of both commands please.
[12:26] <MagicSpud> bekks http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447352/
[12:29] <bekks> MagicSpud: And the second command?
[12:30] <bekks> MagicSpud: And you should disable all precis-repose before running the second command.
[12:30] <bekks> MagicSpud: you are using trusty, and some precise-repos.
[12:31] <MagicSpud> bekks the second command is a bit weird...let me post the link to it...
[12:31] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447410/
[12:31] <MagicSpud> bekks it is ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:31] <bekks> MagicSpud: If it is 12.04 - why do you have repos for 14.04 enabled?
[12:32] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, report the output of this command:   cat /etc/issue
[12:32] <MagicSpud> bekks I couldnt use the automatic upgrade to 14.04 LTS I got this problem:http://askubuntu.com/questions/513157/unresolvable-problem-error-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to-14-04
[12:33] <MagicSpud> bekks $ cat /etc/issue
[12:33] <MagicSpud> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[12:33] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, note:  NOT 12.04 as you stated
[12:34] <MagicSpud> cfhowlett is the first news I get
[12:34] <MagicSpud> I guess the upgrade worked partially
[12:34] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, so those precise entries in your repos are quite likely to cause confusion and breakage.  clean them up.
[12:34] <bekks> MagicSpud: Disable the precise repos, uninstall the software from the precise repos, and run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again
[12:35] <MagicSpud> bekks all the software from precise???
[12:35] <dariuss> Ubuntu 13.10 Server.  16 Ramdisks are pre-built at about 64M (/dev/ramX).  I want a 2G ramdisk.  trying to populate the existing ramdisks with /dev/zero until to 2G with dd fails to expand past the 64M.  brd kernel module won't unload (says in use, but I don't see anything in lsmod).  Is there any way for me to get a 2G BLOCK DEVICE without rebooting?  Note that I need a block device, not a tmpfs filesystem.  Thanks
[12:35] <MagicSpud> I ve been using this distro for years
[12:35] <bekks> MagicSpud: All the software from precise-repos.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> dariuss, 13.10 is not longer supported ...
[12:35] <bekks> MagicSpud: Namely: that steam crap.
[12:36] <dariuss> ok - assume that it's 14.04 .. I have a 14.04 machine to test on
[12:36] <MagicSpud> nephew
[12:36] <MagicSpud> I like games too though
[12:36] <bekks> MagicSpud: That repo is currently breaking things. Remove it.
[12:37] <MagicSpud> I cant open synaptic I told you
[12:37] <bekks> I dod not tell you to use synaptic.
[12:38] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, use the terminal:  sudo apt-get purge steam
[12:38] <MagicSpud> okay
[12:39] <MagicSpud> it says the package is not installed
[12:40] <MagicSpud> so not removed
[12:40] <cfhowlett> bekks, purge and rebuild the software sources.list ???
[12:41] <k1l> MagicSpud: can you please pastebin the whole command and output from terminal?
[12:41] <bekks> cfhowlett: Yeah
[12:41] <k1l> !paste | MagicSpud
[12:41] <MagicSpud> which?
[12:42] <MagicSpud> purge?
[12:42] <MagicSpud> sure
[12:43] <k1l> MagicSpud: all the recent commands. keep in mind: we dont see what you see. and maybe there are some important error-messages that you dont think is important and so dont tell us. so if we see the paste we can decide what is important and dont loose infos
[12:43] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447488/
[12:44] <MagicSpud> the nis program keeps popping out like the main error source
[12:44] <k1l> yep
[12:45] <cfhowlett> MagicSpud, dpkg -l grep | steam*                will show you the proper package name
[12:45] <bekks> dpkg -l | grep steam
[12:47] <MagicSpud> okay done
[12:47] <bekks> And what are the correct package names?
[12:47] <MagicSpud> it is called steam-launcher but it keeps complainning about nis
[12:48] <bekks> MagicSpud: What is "it"?
[12:48] <ikonia> nis is nothing to do with steam
[12:48] <bekks> We dont know what you are doing.
[12:48] <ikonia> and nis is not installed by default on ubuntu (client or server)
[12:48] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447526/
[12:48] <MagicSpud> I used the command to remove you suggested before but with steam-launcher this time
[12:49] <ikonia> MagicSpud: you know you are banned from this channel
[12:49] <ikonia> MagicSpud: please stop
[12:49] <cfhowlett> ?
[12:49] <ikonia> Samurairoma
[12:49] <MagicSpud> $ sudo apt-get remove --purge steam-launcher
[12:50] <bekks> MagicSpud: Yes, you removed that package successfully.
[12:50] <MagicSpud> bekks really? but it keeps complaining with the dpkg error
[12:50] <bekks> MagicSpud: And it removed steam-launcher before.
[12:51] <MagicSpud> cool
[12:51] <MagicSpud> now what?
[12:51] <bekks> What do you need nis for?
[12:51] <MagicSpud> I dont even know what it is
[12:51] <ikonia> MagicSpud: apologies, you're not who I thought you where
[12:51] <bekks> Why did you install it then? :)
[12:51] <MagicSpud> networking information system perhaps
[12:52] <shadow33> i want to start a chat with nc/netcat but the command nc -l -p 1300 gives an usage error. it is started as root :-O. Why?
[12:52] <MagicSpud> ikonia :-)
[12:52] <ikonia> MagicSpud: why do you need nis ?
[12:52] <MagicSpud> no idea
[12:52] <ikonia> then why is it installed ?
[12:52] <MagicSpud> I dont know
[12:52] <bekks> MagicSpud: So remove it.
[12:52] <MagicSpud> okay
[12:53] <MagicSpud> sudo apt-get remove --purge nis
[12:54] <bekks> MagicSpud: "apt-get remove --purge" can be written as "apt-get purge"
[12:54] <MagicSpud> oh okay
[12:55] <MagicSpud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447557/
[12:55] <MagicSpud> not quite sure nis is its real name
[12:55] <ikonia> wine from a ppa....
[12:56] <bekks> ouch
[12:56] <ikonia> this also looks like an old ubuntu
[12:57] <tdn> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 for the thrid time. It wont boot. It just says No operating system after BIOS POST. What am I supposed to do? It appears that grub was not installed or something like that. I am installing form USB. Please advice.
[12:58] <tdn> I think the machine might use EFI/UEFI. Can that be it?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> tdn, oh, yes it could
[12:58] <tdn> It has worked with Ubuntu before. Then the installation broke and I had to reinstall.
[12:58] <tdn> cfhowlett, how do I fix that? Does Ubuntu not handle EFI/UEFI?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !uefi | tdn,
[13:01] <auscompgeek> tdn: just curious, why are you using 12.04 rather than 14.04?
[13:03] <frog> nautilus doesn't want to start. what can i try? killing or ending over the system monitor doesnt help
[13:03] <tdn> auscompgeek, because I rely on pycentral and other stuff that is not present in 14.04. Also, 12.04 is still supported, right? So this should not be a problem.
[13:04] <auscompgeek> tdn: fair enough, as long as you have a good reason :)
[13:06] <tdn> cfhowlett, wow, that looks extremely complicated. :(
[13:06] <cfhowlett> tdn, microsoft doesn't make it easy to use linux.  :)  alternatives exist:  install virtual box to windows, install 32 bit lubuntu/xubuntu inside virtualbox.
[13:07] <frog> nautilus doesn't want to start. what can i try? killing or ending over the system monitor doesnt help
[13:08] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: you can use 64bit
[13:08] <EriC^^> you have to enable vt-X or something in the bios first
[13:08] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, RAM ...
[13:10] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: ?
[13:10] <tdn> EriC^^, I am trying to install 64 bit.
[13:10] <EriC^^> tdn: can you boot a live usb
[13:12] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: virtualising a 32bit OS uses less RAM than virtualising a 64bit OS, I believe
[13:13] <cfhowlett> exactomundo!
[13:13] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: ah, i see :)
[13:16] <bekks> auscompgeek: Thats a wrong assumption.
[13:26] <kevindf_> hello i'm trying to change a file in the vi text editor in the terminal but the file is read only
[13:26] <tdn> EriC^^, I can boot on live USB, yes.
[13:26] <kevindf_> how can i make i can edit it,
[13:26] <compdoc> kevindf_, sudo
[13:26] <EriC^^> tdn: ok check sudo efibootmgr -v
[13:26] <EriC^^> you might need to chroot to your installation first
[13:26] <compdoc> nano is nicer than vi
[13:26] <kevindf_> let me see
[13:27] <kevindf_> easier to work with,
[13:27] <kevindf_> ?
[13:27] <compdoc> I think so
[13:27] <kevindf_> just one more thing, how do i exit this vi editor with saving?
[13:27] <kevindf_> i know :wq is for saving
[13:27] <kevindf_> without*
[13:27] <marlo_> kevindf_, :q!
[13:27] <compdoc> heh, thats why I dont like vi
[13:28] <kevindf_> thanks
[13:28] <marlo_> vi rocks
[13:28] <compdoc> uh huh
[13:28] <tdn> EriC^^, "might need to"?
[13:29] <EriC^^> tdn: yeah
[13:29] <tdn> EriC^^, efibootmgr is not present
[13:30] <EriC^^> ok
[13:30] <tdn> EriC^^, i installed it. Ran it. Not sure what to make of it.l
[13:30] <EriC^^> ok, check your partitions, sudo parted -l
[13:31] <EriC^^> and mount everything up
[13:31] <EriC^^> see if you have any efi partitions too
[13:33] <Seonfr> Is it a good idea to have a small command line install of ubuntu which all it does is manage grub, so that grub doesn't break if I remove one of my OSs?
[13:33] <kevindf_> i like working with linux commands so much
[13:33] <kevindf_> it makes you feel good :)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, no.  remove the os and update grub to reflect changes.  but if your command-line fu is strong - go for it.
[13:35] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, yes, but if I remove the os with the grub configuration files, I'd have to install grub on another OS and move the config files
[13:36] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, grub installs to the device partition, not the OS partition ... reinstall grub is you need to
[13:37] <tdn> I tried using boot-repair to get Ubuntu to boot from UEFI. THis is the paste that it created: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8447805/
[13:37] <tdn> It does not work. I still get the No OS boot error.
[13:37] <tdn> What to do?
[13:38] <Seonfr> but grub needs /boot/grub to boot, which is on my first-installed OS's partition
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, you installed it on the OS partition?  not the usual method ...
[13:39] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, how else would I install it?
[13:39] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, install to the device   e.g. dev/sda
[13:39] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, I did install it to a device
[13:40] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, that's just the stage 1 bootloader which loads the rest from /boot/grub
[13:40] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, so with subsequent installations do NOT install a bootloader, just update grub
[13:41] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, yes, but if for some reason I decide to remove my main OS, then grub would break
[13:41] <EriC^^> tdn: try to install grub manually
[13:41] <kale> hi, need some help getting X running again. I get a segfault when running startx
[13:41] <EriC^^> tdn: are you on the liveusb?
[13:41] <tdn> EriC^^, how?
[13:41] <tdn> EriC^^, yes
[13:41] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, and easily fixed by resintalling grub  - full circle recommendation
[13:41] <tdn> EriC^^, I am running boot-repair right now.
[13:42] <tdn> EriC^^, did you see the paste above?
[13:42] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, but I need a live CD for that
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, true.  and?
[13:43] <EriC^^> tdn: this is a dualboot with windows too?
[13:43] <tdn> EriC^^, there is no windows on this. There was win7 when I bought it, but I do not use windows.
[13:43] <raichunator> hey guys i have a ati radeon hd 7770 graphics card. I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and aditional  drivers give me 3 options open source tested, proprietary and proprietary updates
[13:43] <Seonfr> cfhowlett, isn't it easier to have a 2GB command line system to manage grub? I could also use it to resize partitions, because I can't while they're in use
[13:44] <EriC^^> this is odd
[13:44] <raichunator> whats the best choice
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Seonfr, do what works for you ...
[13:45] <Seonfr> also if I would reinstall grub I'd lose any configuration I might have edited
[13:46] <kale> i'm getting segfaults in libc.so.6, any way to reinstall this package?
[13:47] <EriC^^> tdn: do you have secureboot enabled?
[13:50] <Guest41876> question, is there a way to get my fingerprint device on my laptop to work with ubuntu?
[13:50] <Guest41876> i've googled for it but no solution works
[13:51] <Guest41876> mostly old docs
[13:51] <auscompgeek> depends on which fingerprint device
[13:51] <Guest41876> how do i find out?
[13:52] <kevindf_> is SSH remote standard installed in desktop versions of like lubuntu
[13:53] <k1l> kevindf_: ssh client? yes
[13:53] <auscompgeek> kevindf_: client or server? afaik openssh-server isn't installed on any desktop release
[13:53] <kevindf_> i'm using lubuntu to get used to the linux commands now before using the regular ubuntu server
[13:53] <kevindf_> i don't have to secure me against SSH brute forcers if i installed the desktop version?
[13:54] <raichunator> Hey guys I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and in additional drivers I see 3 options, the proprietary drivers and opensource one, which one is the recommended choice? I've seen some posts that say not to use proprietary dirvers from the website since it will break the installation
[13:54] <raichunator> not sure what to do
[13:54] <k1l> kevindf_: you dont have the ssh-server running because its not installed on default in the desktop versions
[13:54] <kevindf_> ok thanks
[13:55] <auscompgeek> raichunator: if you need features only the proprietary drivers offer, then use them; otherwise stick with opensource drivers
[13:55] <raichunator> auscompgeek, features like what ?
[13:55] <bekks> kevindf_: There is no "desktop" version of ssh. There is openssh-serve and openssh-client only.
[13:55] <k1l> raichunator: which card?
[13:56] <Guest41876> anyone? fingerprint reading for ubuntu?
[13:56] <raichunator> radeon hd 7770
[13:56] <bekks> *server
[13:56] <kevindf_> i guess using lubuntu desktop with the GUI first is a good way to start hosting servers?
[13:56] <kevindf_> after that move on to the regular ubuntu server
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Guest41876, fingerprint readers are not especially well supported.  there are some ppa if I recall correctly
[13:57] <k1l> raichunator: so you can try the fglrx from the official ubuntu repo. so this is made working with the ubunut setup and you get updates to it. the one form the website you need to update yourself and dont know if it works properly
[13:57] <bekks> kevindf_: ubuntu server is just ubuntu without a desktop environment.
[13:57] <kevindf_> ok
[13:57] <raichunator> k1l, i think i'm going to go between the proprietary from the official ubuntu repos and the opensource, not sure which one is the best though
[13:58] <raichunator> website thing I should avoid since it's not supported I guess
[13:58] <blackangelpr> Guest41876, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/how-to-get-your-fingerprint-reader-working-in-ubuntu  mine its microsoft they stop the support after one year and never got it to work under linux
[13:58] <k1l> Guest41876: there are big differences on the fingerprint readers due to the way the manufacturer supports it etc.
[13:59] <k1l> raichunator: the open source driver is some sort of "reverse engeneering". most things work, but sometimes it lacks stuff some people need. so you are running the open one as default. if you install the fglrx one you can test if that is better (performance, features, heating, etc)
[14:00] <auscompgeek> ^
[14:00] <raichunator> k1l, thank you very much i'll test the proprietary one
[14:01] <Mickey> Hello, I have a problem with my Dell Latitude e6420 running ubuntu 14 32bit
[14:02] <auscompgeek> raichunator: yeah, you'll probably want the proprietary drivers, especially if you're going to use 3d graphics
[14:03] <auscompgeek> Mickey: what's the problem (we can't read minds :P )
[14:03] <raichunator> auscompgeek, sounds right, thanks :D
[14:06] <Mickey> whenever i hit the key combination that adjusts the screen brightness, the it lags for some seconds
[14:08] <nerium> Is there an easy way to move an installation of ubuntu from one drive to another?
[14:08] <Mickey>  whenever i hit the key combination that adjusts the screen brightness, the pc lags for 3 to 5 seconds before it responds and gets back to normal
[14:08] <Mickey> I dont face this problem when i press the volume keys or the key combination which activates the backlite keyboard
[14:09] <k1l> Mickey: is there some messages in dmesg about what is going on?
[14:10] <k1l> nerium: well, "dd" or rsync?
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[14:13] <Guest41876> blackangelpr: my problem is that it doesn't find my fingerprint reader device
[14:13] <blackangelpr> Guest41876, mine as well
[14:14] <F_Kafka> :\
[14:15] <blackangelpr> yes i know :(
[14:16] <auscompgeek> F_Kafka: which fingerprint reader though?
[14:17] <F_Kafka> ×dont know, its a dell latitude E5540 laptop
[14:17] <F_Kafka> not sure what vendor the specific device is
[14:17] <auscompgeek> you can always either ask your laptop or ask google
[14:17] <F_Kafka> tried
[14:17] <F_Kafka> no answer
[14:17] <F_Kafka> heh
[14:18] <auscompgeek> could try `lsusb` or something
[14:18] <F_Kafka> tried
[14:18] <F_Kafka> nothing specific
[14:20] <auscompgeek> (my laptop's fingerprint scanner calls itself "Validity Scanner" and is a USB device. *shrug*)
[14:22] <F_Kafka> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 138a:003f Validity Sensors, Inc.
[14:22] <F_Kafka> ?
[14:23] <auscompgeek> that's probably it
[14:23] <k1l> dell do support linux by themselves. did you take a look into their support forums?
[14:23] <auscompgeek> s/Scanner/Sensor/
[14:23] <t0ntin> Does anyone know how to get flash working with SRWare Iron? It works with Chromium.
[14:23] <auscompgeek> F_Kafka: look up that vendor and product id, you might get somewhere
[14:26] <F_Kafka> i checked anywhere
[14:26] <F_Kafka> i searched in dell forums.. no answers
[14:27] <blackangelpr> F_Kafka, this is about your latptop they are talking about everything including the finger print reader as 2013 no support http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_e6520
[14:27] <k1l> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19566882  yes, seems like that is not an easy one
[14:27] <k1l> F_Kafka: maybe you answer that thread to push it to focus again
[14:32] <F_Kafka> :\
how to install download manager in ubuntu?
how to install download manager in ubuntu?
[14:38] <k1l> ilham: which downloadmanager?
[14:39] <ilham> k1l: hmm, like IDM on windows...
[14:39] <EriC^^> ilham: sudo apt-get install aria2 , sudo apt-get install uget , add a flashgot extension in firefox
[14:40] <EriC^^> ( all 3 )
[14:40] <ilham> oke, thank
[14:40] <k1l> ilham: see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/366525/idm-like-softwares-in-ubuntu and this http://askubuntu.com/questions/32850/what-download-managers-are-available-for-ubuntu
[14:41] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: you don't need *both* aria2 and uget, surely.
[14:41] <ilham> k1l: thank ^_
[14:41] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: uget uses aria2c
[14:42] <ilham> n
[14:42] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: aria2c is great, uget is just if you need a time schedular or something
[14:42] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: really? source?
[14:43] <auscompgeek> (with the uget uses aria2c thing)
[14:43] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: in uget > options
[14:43] <EriC^^> you enable the aria2c plugin
[14:43] <auscompgeek> (the uget package doesn't even suggest aria2)
[14:44] <ilham> does anyone here use telegram messenger?
[14:44] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: http://ugetdm.com/downloads-aria2
[14:44] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: just type uget and aria2 in google
[14:45] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: but is aria2 *needed* to use uget? surely it isn't.
[14:46] <tdn> EriC^^, how do I check?
[14:46] <tdn> EriC^^, I see no mention of secureboot in bios
[14:47] <ilham> eedef
[14:47] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: i didn't say it was needed, i said it was a plugin that uget uses
[14:47] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: right.
[14:48] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: it adds more functionality, and supports multi-threaded downloads (if you're into that)
[14:49] <auscompgeek> EriC^^: heh. could use aria2 itself directly though I suppose
[14:49] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: doh, that's what i use :)
[14:49] <EriC^^> auscompgeek: as i said uget is nice for time scheduling
[14:49] <EriC^^> like if you want it to run at night only or something
[14:50] <auscompgeek> hmm, right.
[14:50] <EriC^^> anyways uget + aria2 + flashgot, would pretty much be like idm
[14:57] <EriC^^> tdn: it should be under boot or something
[14:58] <tdn> EriC^^, it is not mentioned in the bios
[14:58] <tdn> went through all menus
[14:58] <EriC^^> boot-repair mentioned it
[14:58] <EriC^^> and it's using shimx64.efi which is for secureboot
[14:59] <EriC^^> i forgot what it was complaining about but it seemed to say something like cann't install cause secure boot is enabled
[15:04] <tdn> EriC^^, so how do I fix that?
[15:04] <tdn> EriC^^, as I mentioned, it is not in the bios. At least not by that name.
[15:13] <garrie> Hey folks, I have a couple of issues with Xubuntu on my new computer... wondering if you could lend some help.
[15:14] <garrie> First issue is that I installed with LVM encryption, however, whenever I turn my computer on, it goes to a blank screen where the encryption login screen should be.
[15:14] <garrie> I can still type in the encryption key and it moves to the next stage (user login).
[15:14] <garrie> But I'd prefer to actually be able to see the encryption splash/page.
[15:14] <garrie> Any idea why it's not showing up?
[15:17] <tdn> EriC^^, I have now tried to isntall from a CDROM instead of USB. That made no difference.
[15:17] <Guest57086> here http://goo.gl/cnARZi
[15:21] <EriC^^> tdn: ok
[15:21] <EriC^^> when you install, do you see a tiny man at the bottom?
[15:21] <EriC^^> are you booting in uefi mode?
[15:21] <garrie> First issue is that I installed with LVM encryption, however, whenever I turn my computer on, it goes to a blank screen where the encryption login screen should be.
[15:21] <garrie> I can still type in the encryption key and it moves to the next stage (user login).
[15:21] <garrie> But I'd prefer to actually be able to see the encryption splash/page.
[15:21] <garrie> Any idea why it's not showing up?
[15:22] <graingert> garrie: look at it as extra security
[15:23] <graingert> :D
[15:24] <garrie> graingert ... haha, yes...
[15:24] <garrie> graingert, although my encryption key is sufficiently strong that I'd rather just have a visible screen :)
[15:25] <graingert> garrie: nvidia
[15:25] <graingert> ?
[15:26] <garrie> graingert, I have an Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti, so have installed the appropriate NVidia driver for that.
[15:26] <garrie> graingert, however, problem was present before I installed that driver too.
[15:26] <mozhan> hi
[15:26] <Foorack> Hey do anyone here have root access to a completly nomal apapche2 server?
[15:26] <Foorack> Hi mozhan
[15:27] <k1l> Foorack: can you rephrase what your actual issue is?
[15:27] <mozhan> a i have a question about changing theme on ubuntu
[15:27] <Foorack> k1l could someone please pastebin the output of "cat /etc/apache2/conf-avaible/javascript.conf" ?
[15:27] <mozhan> i changed my icon theme
[15:27] <Foorack> I accidently deleted it..
[15:28] <mozhan> but i want to my icon where on the top right corner is not change
[15:28] <mozhan> is it possible ?
[15:28] <Foorack> javascript-common.conf*
[15:29] <EriC^^> Foorack: you have a typo there, conf-available
[15:29] <graingert> garrie: no idea
[15:29] <graingert> that part of ubuntu has always been dodgy for me
[15:29] <EriC^^> Foorack: btw i dont have javascript.conf here
[15:29] <garrie> graingert, had the same problem in Linux Mint XFCE
[15:29] <Foorack> javascript-common.conf*
[15:29] <Foorack> not javascript.conf
[15:29] <mozhan> ?? nobody don't have any ideao about it ?
[15:29] <EriC^^> that too
[15:29] <Foorack> :O
[15:30] <Foorack> I deleted mine without having a backup of it..
[15:30] <EriC^^> Foorack: if it's completely fresh you could just reinstall apache2 or something
[15:30] <graingert> !patience  | mozhan
[15:30] <graingert> Foorack: where did you get it from?
[15:30] <Foorack> It's on a quite configured server so I can't just reinstall it :/
[15:30] <Foorack> I dont know, been there since install.
[15:31] <graingert> Foorack: are you sure?
[15:31] <Foorack> about 78% sure :P
[15:31] <graingert> Foorack: can you re-provision your server?
[15:31] <graingert> Foorack: using your configuration management tools
[15:31] <Foorack> what does that mean?
[15:31] <graingert> Foorack: salt, puppet chef ansible etc
[15:31] <graingert> Foorack: do you use it?
[15:31] <collizion> Foorack, hold on, let me see if I can find the package copy.
[15:32] <collizion> Foorack, what version you running?
[15:32] <Foorack> graingert, never heard of.... I'm just using ssh..
[15:32] <Foorack> latest version
[15:32] <collizion> Foorack, stand by.
[15:33] <graingert> Foorack: okay you should probably switch to using Configuration Management of some sort. This way you can rebuild your server each time you do a deploy
[15:33] <bellow> I am thinking about buying a series on VUDU but already have the first three seasons. Would you buy the series(even though that means rebuying the first three seasons and mess it up if they come out with the rest on blu-ray with the code) or set up another account(not to mess up the redeem codes in the future when you buy the blurays) and buy them?
[15:33] <collizion> Foorack, Advice in the future: don't accidentally delete stuff.
[15:33] <graingert> Foorack: all your settings etc go into git or other DVCS
[15:33] <collizion> graingert, i dont think hes doing a deployment, i think he just borked a file by accident
[15:33] <laurens181> Hi
[15:33] <newlin> is it possible to insert a line like (------------) after every command?
[15:33] <graingert> collizion: I'm aware :p
[15:33] <graingert> newlin: yes, but why?
[15:33] <Foorack> Yes, I connected with ssh and accidently deleted a file
[15:34] <newlin> graingert, just for fun
[15:34] <AndChat|51401> My screen brightness  control is not working in ubuntu..
[15:34] <newlin> :)
[15:34] <newlin> graingert, experimenting with command propmt
[15:34] <graingert> newlin: ah if it's just for fun you should go work that out by yourself :p
[15:34] <newlin> graingert, :(
[15:34] <collizion> Foorack, configuration management is massively overcomplicating the solution - in the future, dont zap files.
[15:34] <graingert> newlin: it will be no fun if I tell you what to paste in
[15:34] <graingert> collizion: it's really not
[15:34] <newlin> graingert, yup, not for fun now ;)
[15:34] <Foorack> Yes, I know I made a mistake..
[15:35] <collizion> graingert: it really is. :)
[15:35] <graingert> collizion: it really isn't
[15:35] <Foorack> But is there anyone that knows how I could get a copy of the file so I can recreate it?
[15:35] <collizion> Foorack, patience. im working on it.
[15:35] <graingert> collizion: my argument is that you should use CM so that if you zap a file then you can rebuild your server from scratch
[15:36] <collizion> Foorack, is that apache 2.4?
[15:36] <Foorack> collizion, ok sorry, thanks
[15:36] <graingert> and you shouldn't be able to zap a file because you will only be making changes using CM
[15:36] <newlin> graingert, trying to search but google is giving off topic results
[15:36] <Foorack> 2.4.7
[15:36] <Foorack> But I dont think it matters..
[15:36] <Foorack> It should be the same over most versions
[15:36] <graingert> Foorack: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=javascript-common.conf&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any
[15:37] <collizion> Foorack, lets not play with fire.
[15:37] <graingert> Foorack: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[15:37] <Foorack> 14.04
[15:37] <graingert> Foorack: a "sudo aptitude reinstall javascript-common" should get it back
[15:38] <Foorack>  dpkg: error processing package javascript-common (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  javascript-common
[15:39] <graingert> oh dear
[15:39] <graingert> Foorack: looks like you've shafted your box
[15:40] <Mickey> sorry k1l
[15:40] <Mickey> had abit of an emmergency
[15:41] <johncarp> i'm confused, i'm using lubuntu on my "server" (desktop install) and tried setting up xrdp with this tutorial http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=5357 but now my envoirment is completely different?
[15:41] <johncarp> i don't get it, can't i just get my normal desktop like it is when i'm on the server itself
[15:41] <johncarp> it sets a whole new desktop envoirment for me
[15:42] <graingert> Foorack: https://gist.github.com/graingert/3c853aa8b4c7f020ce6c
[15:43] <Foorack> Thank you so much graingert ;)
[15:43] <graingert> Foorack: you need to start rebuilding that machine though
[15:44] <graingert> Foorack: using something where you can create a new one with one button
[15:44] <Mickey> Okay so it looks like k1l is gone offline
[15:44] <Mickey> So i am going repost my question
[15:44] <graingert> Foorack: http://www.ansible.com/get-started
[15:45] <Mickey> I have a dell latitude e6420 running ubuntu 14 32bit
[15:45] <johncarp> is there any way i can revert all the things i did in the past 30 minutes in Lubuntu? ^^
[15:45] <johncarp> i guess not
[15:46] <johncarp> cause i kinda screwed it up i think, i download LXDE desktop envoirment to setup xrdp but i had lubuntu already
[15:46] <Mickey> whenever i press the key cobination for dimming the screen, the pc lags for 3 to 4 seconds
[15:47] <Mickey> any idea on how to fix this??
[15:47] <collizion> Foorack: check messages
[15:49] <cyber> hello
[15:50] <cyber> c
[15:56] <jj---> hello usb modem not working with ubuntu 14.04, modeswitch ok but disconnects on connect syslog http://pastebin.com/Vrn9CLGq
[15:56] <jj---> any ideas?
[15:57] <RixiM> is there a repo somewhere that holds ALL the ubuntu packages, not just the newest ones?
[15:58] <alien64> bash bug fix http://pastebin.com/fNzAqZ5J
[15:58] <jhutchins> RixiM: All the packages from the current release are on the current repos.
[15:59] <jhutchins> RixiM: Are you looking for older releases?
[16:01] <RixiM> jhutchins: I want old version of packages. for example if I do apt-get update and then a month later try to do an install, it will sometimes fail, where can I get that package?
[16:01] <RixiM> I don't have an example ready, but I think you know what I am talking about?
[16:03] <stimpy_> Hi, I've problem with ubuntu scheduling. It seems that the default scheduler is not SMT aware at least for i7 CPU. So performance is really bad with enabled hyperthreading. Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
[16:05] <RixiM> jhutchins: this may only happen with security releases?
[16:05] <swede_30> hello channel! im kinda new to linux, has just installed lubuntu, but are not very happy with the looks of it. i would like to try Cinnamon, which disto is the best one? Mint?
[16:06] <garrie> Mint, yes.
[16:06] <jhutchins> RixiM: The best way to achieve that is to download the DVD images and use those.
[16:06] <garrie> I'm personally a fan of XFCE, which you can get on Mint, or with ubuntu via Xubuntu.
[16:07] <daftykins> swede_30: try out xfce, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[16:07] <jhutchins> garrie: Or just install on regular ubuntu.
[16:08] <swede_30> daftykins, you mean i can try xfce on my lubuntu?
[16:08] <jhutchins> swede_30: You can install any of the DEs on ubuntu, there's no need to change distributions. You can have multiple DEs on the same install.
[16:08] <jhutchins> !install xfce
[16:08] <jhutchins> !xfce
[16:08] <ldiamond> I modified my mouse's acceleration and sensitivity in the mouse settings (with the cursor) in 12.04. I need to know what settings are affected and their exact value (so that I can reproduce the same sensitivity on other systems). Anyone knows that?
[16:09] <jhutchins> ldiamond: Only you know that.
[16:09] <swede_30> jhutchins, oh, that was news to me. but can i also have cinnamon on lubuntu? i thought lubuntu was only for lxde
[16:09] <ldiamond> jhutchins: No, I'm asking what settings are affected by that user interface.
[16:09] <RixiM> jhutchins: does ubuntu archive those packages someplace? It sounds a lot like you are saying no :D
[16:09] <alien64> swede_30: just install Cinnamon
[16:10] <jhutchins> swede_30: Yes.
[16:10] <swede_30> alien64, i will. but how? =)
[16:10] <jhutchins> Let's see if the bot knows...
[16:10] <jhutchins> !cinnamon
[16:10] <jhutchins> Nope.
[16:10] <ldiamond> swede_30: you can install ubuntu-server and install cinnamon on it,.
[16:11] <jhutchins> ldiamond: You can also install it on lubuntu.  The variants like xubuntu and lubuntu are just what desktop installs by default, you can add any of the other desktops to those installs.
[16:11] <ldiamond> jhutchins: of course. But cleaning up LXDE from lubuntu might be quite a hassle.
[16:11] <jhutchins> ldiamond: There's no real need to.
[16:12] <jhutchins> ldiamond: You can have all of the DEs installed together.
[16:12] <swede_30> i will try this. thanks for the information, everyone!
[16:12] <ldiamond> jhutchins: of course, but then it becomes a big mess.
[16:13] <alien64> swede_30: https://www.google.com/search?q=lubuntu+install+cinnamon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&client=iceweasel-a#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=lubuntu+install+cinnamon+debian
[16:13] <jhutchins> ldiamond: Not really.  You just choose the desktop from the greeter and don't worry about the packages.
[16:13] <ldiamond> jhutchins: also the desktop environments packaged are more "intrusive", they install packages like web browsers and email clients which you can't remove on their own.
[16:13] <jhutchins> ldiamond: Actually, you can, and again, nothing says you have to use them.
[16:14] <_Trullo> hah, another bash upgrade
[16:14] <cfhowlett> jhutchins, sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde kde gnome-shell         will get the DE's ONLY, i.e. will NOT grab the apps.  sample and test, choose a preference
[16:15]  * jhutchins has been happy with his various desktop environments since 2004.
[16:16] <alien64> swede_30: and also this one >>> http://www.howtogeek.com/103691/install-linux-mints-new-cinnamon-desktop-on-ubuntu/
[16:17] <swede_30> alien64, thanks, im trying it right now
[16:17] <alien64> k
[16:18] <jj--> hello anywhere a good guide how to update modem manager?
[16:18] <psjr> Hello
[16:23] <swede_30> which distro/desktop are you pro's using? =)
[16:23] <red_baron> i nned a cross-platform (linux+win) C and DVD catalogizer free software, any ideas?
[16:23] <red_baron> i've seen griffith, but since 2008 it wasn't updated
[16:24] <alien64> swede_30: gnome
[16:24] <swede_30> 3.12?
[16:25] <alien64> i guess so is 3. sumthin for sure
[16:28] <preet> hi
[16:28] <NickMessing> Hello, I have ubuntu server with "2.6.32-65-server" kernel, how can I upgrade it to 3.8 ?
[16:28] <preet> i want to make anroid development tool on ubuntu ???
[16:28] <jParkton_> NickMessing: what does apt-get upgrade show you?
[16:28] <preet> how can i
[16:29] <jParkton_> preet: https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[16:30] <NickMessing> jParkton_: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:30] <NickMessing> jParkton_: it's 10.04 LTS
[16:30] <preet> here it ubuntu mate
[16:30] <jParkton_> have you changed sources?
[16:30] <NickMessing> jParkton_: no, just added some...
[16:31] <jParkton_> NickMessing: it will be a pain, you will have to update to each new distro version
[16:31] <preet> k
[16:32] <NickMessing> jParkton: can I do that with SSH only access? (No physical access)
[16:32] <jParkton> yes but it is going to take a minute
[16:32] <jParkton> like probably 2 days
[16:33] <jParkton> NickMessing: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[16:33] <nobodysme> hi, i reinstalled xubuntu12.04 in the same root, because hard system problems, and i create a new user name like "user2" because the fear of losing /home/user , now it's enough to create user named "user" to reuse it without problems?
[16:33] <jParkton> you can generate the repos list from there
[16:33] <jParkton> nobodysme: whut?
[16:33] <nobodysme> /home/user is present and with all the original content
[16:33] <nobodysme> i would eliminate user2 to come back using user
[16:34] <jParkton> is user1 the root user?
[16:34] <nobodysme> jParkton, not , my preview user
[16:34] <nobodysme> that i create with the preview installation
[16:34] <jParkton> you are confusing
[16:34] <nobodysme> i reinstalled without formatting , to take the old /home/user
[16:35] <jParkton> delete and add users at will but do not remove the root users account
[16:36] <nobodysme> jParkton, i reinstalled withoud formatting, but i created an user named user2, only because i wasn't sure of what happens if i create in the new installation an user named user, like my old user
[16:36] <NickMessing> jParkton: can "do-release-upgrade" help me with that?
[16:38] <jParkton> NickMessing: it 'should'
[16:38] <jParkton> but you may run into bumps
[16:38] <jParkton> so make sure it has the correct repos and such and upgrade
[16:39] <jParkton> that nobodysme kid is going to run into some issues lol
[16:39] <NickMessing> jParkton: do-release-upgrade resets sources.list to default anyway
[16:39] <NickMessing> jParkton: what takes more time - downloading or upgrading?
[16:42] <jParkton> mmmm
[16:42] <jParkton> probably the upgrading itself
[16:43] <jParkton> so many kernel updates and other core stuff
[16:43] <jParkton> so it upgrades then holds back stuff looking for a newer kernel over and over
[16:43] <jParkton> it takes a minute lol
[16:43] <rlinx> I need advice
[16:43] <jParkton> rlinx: hai
[16:43] <rlinx> hi
[16:43] <rlinx>  back again
[16:43] <nobodysme> jParkton, then, i only need to know, if i can re-using my old /home/user  , adding user named "user" , or not
[16:44] <daftykins> rlinx: ask the question on one line
[16:44] <nobodysme> i don't need "user2 " that i'm using now
[16:44] <rlinx>  I reinstalled ubuntu 14.04 and the kernal changed
[16:44] <jParkton> nobodysme: you should really just backup the things you need to keep and redo
[16:44] <jParkton> that is already a disaster OS
[16:44] <daftykins> rlinx: that's not a question
[16:45] <nobodysme> jParkton, ok, i  reinstalled, i only have /home/user and /home/user2
[16:45] <rlinx> The driver module was for 3.13.0-32 and the kernel now is 3.13.0-36
[16:45] <jParkton> nobodysme: why two users?
[16:45] <daftykins> rlinx: reinstall whatever drivers you added, they should've been rebuilt for the new kernel
[16:45] <nobodysme> i created user2 only because i didn't know what happens to my /home/user if  i create during installation, and user named "user"
[16:46] <jParkton> dont name it user ffs
[16:46] <rlinx> any way to redo the ko module for the 36 kernel or do I need the vendor to recompile a new .ko file?
[16:46] <jParkton> name it BobLinux or something
[16:46] <daftykins> jParkton: that language doesn't help anyone
[16:46] <jParkton> dont name it user
[16:46] <jParkton> pretty please
[16:46] <nobodysme> jParkton, yes, i don't tell you for privacy
[16:46] <jParkton> then I cant help
[16:47] <jParkton> it sounds like a terrible setup
[16:47] <nobodysme> i'm using "user" and "user2" for example
[16:47] <jParkton> you need to install and set some user with an actual usenrmae and have thet account be "root"
[16:47] <ppdisa> repubblica 28.09.
[16:47] <rlinx> ok
[16:47] <nobodysme> jParkton, ok, thanx you the same
[16:47] <jParkton> user2 should NOT have any access to 'user' account
[16:47] <jParkton> ONLY user2
[16:48] <jParkton> that is insecurity
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> he's gone, it's over
[16:48] <jParkton> oh
[16:48] <jParkton> heh
[16:48] <jParkton> wow my spelling needs some help
[16:49] <SchrodingersScat> jParkton: http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html#aspell_plugin
[16:50] <jParkton> lol
[16:50] <jParkton> thank you cat
[16:50] <SchrodingersScat> welcome
[16:59] <gtgt9> Hi guys, I am having trouble with grub. I just installed ubuntu alongside Win 8 without a hitch but...
[16:59] <gtgt9> when I boot, grub is not there
[16:59] <gtgt9> Secure boot is disabled, along with fast boot
[17:00] <gtgt9> Idk what to do
[17:05] <garrie> First issue is that I installed with LVM encryption, however, whenever I turn my computer on, it goes to a blank screen where the encryption login screen should be.
[17:05] <garrie> I can still type in the encryption key and it moves to the next stage (user login).
[17:05] <garrie> But I'd prefer to actually be able to see the encryption splash/page.
[17:05] <garrie> Any idea why it's not showing up?
[17:05] <jmadero> morning all - how do I add new century schoolbook font to Ubuntu
[17:08] <guardianpwr08> hello.. i am trying to install ubuntu desktop.... the installation seems stuck here... http://i.imgur.com/XjAeUYA.png
[17:08] <bazzzb> press q?\
[17:09] <daftykins> that does not look like an ubuntu desktop installation screen :P
[17:09] <aksnot> hi guys how to use multiple network interfaces simultaneously ? Thanks in advance.
[17:10] <guardianpwr08> bazzzb: q worked!
[17:10] <bazzzb> lol
[17:11] <jParkton> guardianpwr08: that was a man page
[17:12] <nobodysme> hi, i recover my xubuntu 12.04 installation, setting my old root, whitout formatting, then during installation process i created a "user2 " , with the fear that creating "user" (my old user) i deleting /home/user folders , now, at reboot, i look that /home/user is present and with all my content, if i add user named "user" can i reuse this user with my old /home/user folder ?
[17:13] <jParkton> nobodysme: make a backup and redo
[17:13] <jParkton> you are doing it wrong
[17:13] <aksnot> how to use multiple default interfaces
[17:14] <jParkton> aksnot: what do you mean?
[17:14] <jmadero> nobodysme: yes you can but it shouldn't be done that way, you should set a different partition for your home folder
[17:14] <jmadero> nobodysme: and start from scratch after backing up - then you should format your root partition always
[17:16] <ashva> Hi, I've installed mtr on ubuntu 14.04 but when I run it via terminal it's graphical interface opens up that I want to disable that. I just only want to have in my terminal only. can somebody help me on this?
[17:16] <jmadero> ashva: I'm sure it's a different command to just run in terminal - I've never used that particular program before
[17:17] <jmadero> ashva: http://adukia.blogspot.com/2012/03/install-mtr-without-gtk.html might help
[17:17] <ashva> jmadero: thank's for reply, actually I always use this utility on ubuntu 12.04 but I didn't have this problem
[17:17] <jmadero> ah nevermind that's for OSX apparently sorry
[17:19] <jmadero> ashva: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/mtr.8.html
[17:19] <jmadero> ashva: do a find for "terminal" there seems to maybe be an option --curses
[17:20] <ashva> jmadero: thank you very much, you helped alot
[17:21] <kevindf> i'm clueless
[17:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | kevindf
[17:21] <kevindf> i tried everything to setup xrdp service on Lubuntu but i keep getting grey screen
[17:21] <kevindf> i looked up everything on google, tried everything no results
[17:23] <kevindf> if i install another desktop envoirment and use it with xrdp
[17:45] <rlinx> when ever I use apt-get I get ignoring  'getdeb.list.bck'
[17:45] <dreamon> having Wlan problems. syslog shows -> CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED -> wlan is hooking a time. what can I do?
[17:46] <elow> !help
[17:47] <rlinx> when ever I use apt-get        I get ignoring 'getdeb.list.bck' how do I remove it?
[17:49] <k1l_> rlinx: please show the output of "sudo apt-get update" in a pastebin
[17:49] <rlinx> will do
[17:50] <elow> k1l_, I was going to ask him to do the same thing.
[17:51] <sydney> Ok, im having an issue. Whenever i open pcmanfm or nautilus,the always show my hidden files. :s How do i make it so they dont constantly?
[17:51] <k1l_> press ctrl+h
[17:51] <rlinx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8449393/
[17:51] <sydney> Ive hid them,but every time i open it again,they show back up.
[17:52] <k1l_> rlinx: please pastebin the output of "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[17:52] <skinux> I installed Kubuntu desktop a couple of months ago and since then I can't get default Ubuntu desktop to load. I login and it just sits there.
[17:53] <rlinx> "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"   .....gwb@mrpc:~$ "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[17:53] <rlinx> bash: ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d: No such file or directory
[17:54] <bellow> I am thinking about buying a series on VUDU but already have the first three seasons. Would you buy the series(even though that means rebuying the first three seasons and mess it up if they come out with the rest on blu-ray with the code) or set up another account(not to mess up the redeem codes in the future when you buy the blurays) and buy them?
[17:54] <teward> rlinx: try it without the quotes, they may be breaking things
[17:54] <sydney> k1l_: that seems to have helped. thanks ;)
[17:54] <Guest39308> what would be the best way to remote desktop 24/7 running ubuntu desktop envoirement to control from serveral locations depending where i am
[17:54] <rlinx> ok
[17:54] <Guest39308> i will be hosting a teamspeak 3 server
[17:55] <rlinx> gwb@mrpc:~$ ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:55] <rlinx> total 16
[17:55] <rlinx> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 28 13:38 .
[17:55] <rlinx> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Sep 28 13:08 ..
[17:55] <rlinx> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   56 Sep 28 13:11 getdeb.list.bck
[17:55] <rlinx> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   57 Sep 28 13:11 playdeb.list
[17:55] <unopaste> rlinx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:55] <teward> !pastebin | rlinx
[17:55] <mentoc> I made an app that worked on my ubuntu box.. it utilized aplay (alsa) and now I'm trying that same exact code on Kali linux, and it doesn't work at all
[17:55] <DGJones> bellow: This is Ubuuntu support, please free to ask youroperating system support question, for offtopic questions, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:56] <mentoc> is there a high level abstraction available for playing wav files?
[17:56] <teward> mentoc: Kali Linux isn't supported here, it's not a supported derivative of Ubuntu (like backtrack)
[17:56] <SchrodingersScat> !ssh | Guest39308
[17:57] <mentoc> teward: okay. I'm just looking for a sound library that abstracts all the gory details
[17:58] <rlinx> I went to   irectory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/'    can I remove    getdeb.list.bck ?
[17:59] <rlinx> directory
[17:59] <Guest39308> why do people install tightvnc server combined with xrdp?
[17:59] <Guest39308> can't you control it with xrdp alone?
[18:00] <rlinx> hello ?
[18:01] <SchrodingersScat> Guest39308: not sure why you would need either of those to run a teamspeak server
[18:01] <Guest39308> well
[18:01] <Guest39308> as i'm not really advanced enough yet in controlling everything trough commands i decided to host it with GUI
[18:02] <k1l_> rlinx: yes
[18:02] <Guest39308> to learn the basics of commands first
[18:02] <k1l_> rlinx: and for future reference: be more carefull when adding 3rd party repos to your system
[18:02] <Guest39308> my pc that's running 24/7 is in basement
[18:02] <Guest39308> and it's really annoying to go there everytime to make some changes
[18:03] <rlinx> how do I remove the goof in apt-get ?   Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[18:03] <rlinx> Yes I understand
[18:04] <rlinx> I went to irectory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' can I remove    the  getdeb.list.bck   file?
[18:04] <rlinx> or what do I do?
[18:04] <rlinx>  I tried autoremove, clean
[18:05] <OerHeks> rlinx, do not remove that ppa by deleting the file, use ppa-purge
[18:05] <rlinx> please tell me the exact command line to use
[18:05] <OerHeks> !ppapurge | rlinx,
[18:06] <giri> hi
[18:06] <bellow> I am thinking about buying a series on VUDU but already have the first three seasons. Would you buy the series(even though that means rebuying the first three seasons and mess it up if they come out with the rest on blu-ray with the code) or set up another account(not to mess up the redeem codes in the future when you buy the blurays) and buy them?
[18:06] <OerHeks> bellow that is beyond the scope of this channel
[18:06] <rlinx> apt-get install ppa-purge  ???
[18:08] <bellow> I just want advice
[18:08] <SchrodingersScat> this isn't a lifecoaching channel
[18:08] <rlinx> Thank You ppa-purge installed
[18:09] <Jillybean> not that kind of advice
[18:09] <bellow> not looking for that
[18:09] <bellow> I am thinking about buying a series on VUDU but already have the first three seasons. Would you buy the series(even though that means rebuying the first three seasons and mess it up if they come out with the rest on blu-ray with the code) or set up another account(not to mess up the redeem codes in the future when you buy the blurays) and buy them?
[18:09] <bellow> '
[18:10] <OerHeks> !ot | bellow
[18:10] <DGJones> bellow: This is Ubuuntu support, please free to ask youroperating system support question, for offtopic questions, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:11] <skinux>  What's the command to reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[18:12] <OerHeks> skinux, apt-get --reinstall install <package>
[18:14] <nx> ау
[18:21] <ppdisa> ciao
[18:21] <ppdisa> !list
[18:22] <ESource5> UNLESS YE REPENT YE WILL ALL PERISH
[18:23] <rlinx> I used     sudo ppa-purge getdeb.list.bck/etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:23] <rlinx> Updating packages lists
[18:23] <rlinx> PPA to be removed: getdeb.list.bck/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ppa
[18:23] <rlinx> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:
[18:23] <rlinx> getdeb.list.bck/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ppa
[18:23] <Mr-Potter> !list
[18:23] <rlinx>  when does it get removed?
[18:25] <squaregoldfish> I've got a BlueTooth headset that I can't get to work. It's selected as the output device for my music player and the little meter dances up and down, but I get no sound. Works OK with other devices. Any ideas? (Bluetooth noob BTW)
[18:27] <rlinx> sudo ppa-purge getdeb.list.bck/etc/apt/sources.list.d/   Did Not remove it
[18:27] <rlinx> Ignoring file 'getdeb.list.bck' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[18:28] <SchrodingersScat> as getdeb seems to be some third party addition you've included, and .bck could imply a backup of the list, maybe you can just move it out of there?  assume it could break everything.
[18:29] <BTJustice> I need some help with faketime.  I installed it along with libfaketime in terminal.  I then enter "faketime '2014-09-30 13:00:00' /bin/date" and the message saying that is the date is displayed in terminal, but why are new folders and files not showing as being created at that date?
[18:29] <rlinx> yes it was  to play deb
[18:30] <OerHeks> rlink use the original name to remove that ppa
[18:32] <rlinx> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/getdeb-playdeb-repositories-down-what.html
[18:34] <Fohlen> hey guys
[18:34] <Fohlen> how could I reset my ip rules n stuff to default?
[18:34] <Fohlen> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192228/ip-rule-flush-breaks-all-connectivity
[18:34] <Fohlen> says ip rules flush cache doesn't exist
[18:36] <xangua> rlinx: getdeb is not a PPA repository
[18:36] <DSB> Hello , how can i switch between fuduntu to ubuntu by using bootable flash ?
[18:36] <xangua> !usb | DSB
[18:36] <DSB> yes from usb
[18:36] <rlinx> maybe I need to reinstall ubuntu
[18:37] <rlinx> and be careful wht I install
[18:37] <rlinx> gotta go no hot water
[18:37] <xangua> or just go to software center, edit menu, sources and remove the getdeb repository rlinx
[18:40] <DSB> thanks
[18:43] <thoughtwarrior> hi im having a problem erasing my flashdrive something about force?
[18:46] <tonymke> What's the proper way to give daemon users access to ssl certs in /etc/ssl?
[18:50] <joyce> #fun
[18:55] <gusto> hi, i had just an idea how to easily get rid of the ppl who are trying to get into ssh on my virtualserver, mostly these ppl come from far away countries, but i do not want to block every country and then allow only specifics, because the ip ranges vary, i locked myself out by myself, because i had a list with the ip addresses of my provider, and then he suddenly started to use a different (new) prefix
[18:55] <gusto> so i just think, maybe the fastest way would be to take the /8 address ranges of RIPE
[18:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info fail2ban | gusto
[18:56] <gusto> i know fail to ban, but that could be then used as a second level
[18:56] <gusto> but at first, when there is someone comming from outside of RIPE, meaning outside from europe, it surely is not me
[18:57] <gusto> for the remeaning 20% of the address space ... yes ... fail to ban would be an option
[18:58] <bazzzb> gusto http://www.axllent.org/docs/view/ssh-geoip/
[18:59] <loic_> hi
[19:00] <gusto> bazzzb: yes, that was the case to me, where i locked myself out, i used geo lists and when a new ip address range came into usage by my DSL provider, it did not find the IP range in the list and kept me out
[19:00] <gusto> bazzzb: that's why i said that RIPE (or whatever regional are you in) is a better idea, because these ranges are assigned only rarely
[19:01] <gusto> the IPv4 that i got back then was used in france (orange) and was then used by orange in slovakia
[19:02] <gusto> and i also seen that UPC was using austrian IP ranges in several countries, ... so because of the lack of IPv4 (they ran out) ISPs are moving ranges here and there
[19:02] <bazzzb> Gusto if you want a second layer do 2fa with Google authenticator. Ip based will never be reliable.
[19:02] <gusto> yes, thats what i said
[19:02] <gusto> but RIPE is reliable enough
[19:03] <gusto> the chance that you ran into an IP that was assigned to some different regional is next to zero
[19:04] <bettycla1p> We're having a problem. We started a do-release-upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 and the terminal has just frozen. (We're guessing the reason might be that we did it while logged in to gnome). How do we get out of this?
[19:05] <bettycla1p> A process called efibootmgr is taking up 100% of the CPU currently.
[19:05] <edoceo> bettycla1p: is there an alternate SSH port started?
[19:05] <edoceo> Generally on port 1022 , try to get in there
[19:05] <bettycla1p> edoceo: maybe, but we can ssh in through port 22 anyway.
[19:05] <bettycla1p> We're afraid to reboot.
[19:06] <bettycla1p> Cuz that might keep the system in a broken state.
[19:06] <edoceo> Oh, can you inspect that process and see what it's doing?
[19:07] <edoceo> Or, see it's command line to see what it's trying to do?  Like in /proc or from pstree or something?
[19:07] <AustriaBound> I have a, not so intelligent, question to ask.  I've been using Linux for a couple of months now.  The question is I'm looking for a single point external access to all my servers.  Would the easiest way be to have a OpenSSH server that's only purpose is to be the single point of entry?  So from that SSH login I could access the other machines from it?
[19:07] <bettycla1p> edoceo: if inspecting means lsof, then the process has a whole bunch of files open in /usr/lib/x64_64-linux-gnu/libgudev-1.0.so.0.1.3
[19:07] <bettycla1p> edoceo: or are you referring to strace?
[19:07] <edoceo> strace
[19:08] <edoceo> Or, looking at it's command line to see what it's trying, or whos calling it.
[19:08] <edoceo> It may be just hung, depending, and you could kill it, other upgrade process could complete, then you can configure after rest of instll is done
[19:09] <edoceo> AustriaBound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion_host
[19:09] <edoceo> I have a single box in my org that does that, for SSH, I have to SSH to it first and only this host is allowed to SSH to my NN other boxen
[19:10] <bettycla1p> edoceo: strace produces no output for the process.
[19:10] <AustriaBound> edocea:  Nice.  Thanks.
[19:10] <edoceo> Dang, Not sure why it's hung; what's the command line?
[19:11] <edoceo> Find it in `pstree -apcl`
[19:11] <edoceo> AustriaBound: also look at tools like `ssh -L` and `ssh -R` for making a tunnel through your Bastion to the other boxen, when needed
[19:11] <Chris_____> How do I ask
[19:12] <edoceo> Like, sftp EG, from Desktop via Bastion to DB/Web server
[19:12] <Chris_____> I upgraded from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 and lost the sound thru my internal speakers.
[19:13] <AustriaBound> edocea:  Didn't even know you could do that.  Very cool.
[19:13] <asmodeo> Helloo some alternatives for dnscrypt in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:18] <bettycla1p> edoceo: just 'efibootmgr'
[19:18] <supercom32> Ok, this is not exactly Ubuntu related, but as I was working on installing Ubuntu on a box and I saw this crawl on my screen (http://www.supercom32.net/Personal/Random/bug.png). It was so tiny i had to blow it up a bit. Any ideas what this is? :-)
[19:18] <bettycla1p> (that's the command line)
[19:19] <edoceo> AustriaBound: you can even tunnel non SSH traffic over SSH (like, VNC, or RDP)
[19:19] <edoceo> bettycla1p: dang...
[19:19] <rww> !ot | supercom32
[19:19] <edoceo> And in the current terminal where it's running you cannot CTRL+C or anything? Or we just don't want to
[19:20] <pdo_fn14> Did I need to restarting my Ubuntu after applied some system update for shellshock prevention?.
[19:21] <edoceo> pdo_fn14: you can just restart the services, if not the entire box
[19:21] <edoceo> But the /bin/bash is called each time it's needed; unlikely there are long running Bash that are vulnerable
[19:21] <edoceo> But, safety first!  If it helps you sleep better, reboot
[19:22] <Loshki> supercom32: rww: If it happened to a Ubuntu system during a Ubuntu install, it sounds on-topic to me...
[19:22] <rww> Loshki: Insect identification is not on-topic for #ubuntu.
[19:23] <Loshki> rww: it is if it's a Ubuntu easter egg or some such...
[19:23] <BTJustice> Is there a program to freeze the Ubuntu clock to a specific date and time?
[19:23] <Loshki> BTJustice: got a time locked application?
[19:24] <BTJustice> Loshki: No. I want to move a bunch of files and folders and set all the timestamps to a specific date and time so I can see which files are later modified.
[19:24] <rww> BTJustice: use the "touch" command
[19:25] <bettycla1p> edoceo: apparently not.
[19:25] <BTJustice> Windows has this really nice program called Clock Stopper which does this function nicely.
[19:25] <BTJustice> I was hoping there was a Linux or Ubuntu equivilent.
[19:25] <rww> BTJustice: use the "touch" command
[19:26] <edoceo> bettycla1p: dang!  Remote box or can you bounce it and have console if it goes to heck?
[19:26] <edoceo> I might just try to kill 9 or 15 that process and see what happens
[19:27] <bettycla1p> edoceo: but I assume you would not recommend killing dpkg itself..?
[19:27] <edoceo> No, just efibootmgr and then cross your fingers and hope for the best
[19:28] <edoceo> And maybe when the upgrade is done try the dpkg-reconfigure -a trick
[19:30] <Guest30926> hello
[19:30] <BTJustice> I am hating 'touch'.
[19:30] <mjayk> kl
[19:30] <Guest30926> anybody with knowledge in gparted?
[19:31] <andrei_b> hi! I was wondering if someone has an idea of how to put new desktop icons/items in the primary monitor, not on the secondary monitor (it's on the left)
[19:31] <rom1504> Guest30926: you should ask your question
[19:31] <rom1504> andrei_b: can't you drag them ?
[19:32] <Loshki> BTJustice: this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62492/how-can-i-change-the-date-modified-created-of-a-file
[19:32] <andrei_b> I mean when for instance I save something new
[19:32] <andrei_b> on the desktop
[19:32] <andrei_b> afterwards I drag it sure
[19:33] <BTJustice> Loshki: Looking at it now.
[19:34] <andrei_b> secondary monitor is @[0,0], while the primary monitor is @[1920,0]
[19:34] <andrei_b> I suppose this is the problem
[19:34] <andrei_b> but the "primary" monitor should have higher prio
[19:34] <Loshki> BTJustice: I'm not sure you even need "touch". If you simply copy the files, they will have the current/date time. Anything later than that (use "find" to locate them) is *new*...
[19:35] <levo> bash bug. what to do?
[19:35] <BTJustice> All I really want to do is freeze the system date and time, move the files, and then unfreeze the date and time.
[19:35] <bishakh> BTJustice: use git :P
[19:35] <TTN> do you not want to record time stamps on the files
[19:35] <Guest30926> is there a know gparted bug which currupts hdds after making new partition tables?
[19:35] <Loshki> levo: upgrade
[19:36] <levo> Loshki: has it been fixed on Ubuntu?
[19:36] <BTJustice> Just make all dates and times the date and time I have set.
[19:36] <TTN> was there a mount option to not touch timestamps?
[19:36] <Loshki> levo: it was fixed days ago...
[19:36] <guntbert> levo: the fixes are out - just sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:36] <reisio> TTN: was there one that does?
[19:38] <Loshki> BTJustice: although you can set the clock to any date/time, I don't believe you can 'freeze' it, it will always be counting forwards. So, back to "touch"...
[19:38] <BTJustice> sudo touch -t 201409301300 /test/*.*
[19:39] <BTJustice> Like that?
[19:39] <TTN> apparently, there's a noatime option that can be set in fstab see http://openquery.com.au/blog/hint-day-noatime-relatime-fstab
[19:40] <Loshki> BTJustice: yes, when you do "ls -l", do the files show the correct date?
[19:41] <bishakh> planning to develop an indicator applet. anyone need any specific applet? any idea what to develop?
[19:41] <BTJustice> Loshki: No.
[19:43] <Loshki> BTJustice: that's interesting. Try touch -d instead?
[19:43] <andrei_b> regarding the "icons on desktop", someone posted the same question here
[19:43] <andrei_b> http://superuser.com/questions/84115/ubuntu-twinview-i-want-the-desktop-icons-on-the-right-monitor
[19:43] <reisio> andrei_b: ...and an answer?
[19:43] <andrei_b> but no solution
[19:43] <reisio> so... kind of pointless to mention it?
[19:43] <andrei_b> so I was wondering if someone actually knows
[19:43] <andrei_b> a solution
[19:43] <reisio> there's a bug on launchpad about the launcher bar placement, with several solutions
[19:44] <navetz> can someone help me fix the UI issues going on in ubuntu http://i.imgur.com/Bxekxj0.png
[19:44] <BTJustice> touch: invalid date format ‘201409301300’
[19:44] <BTJustice> ???
[19:45] <reisio> BTJustice: man touch
[19:45] <Loshki> BTJustice: did you mistype. It works for me. Please pastebin the exact text and response...
[19:46] <reisio> touch -r is a little simpler :)
[19:48] <BTJustice> http://pastebin.com/xuFjRyrn
[19:49] <BTJustice> I am not really wanting to issue terminal commands.  There is no program for Linux like there is for Windows (Clock Stopper)?
[19:49] <bettycla1p> So we're seeing that a whole bunch of postinstalls are getting stuck, e.g., for mysql, telepathy, etc.
[19:49] <bettycla1p> edoceo: ^^ ?
[19:50] <bettycla1p> (or anyone else?)
[19:50] <bettycla1p> Any idea why postinstalls would get stuck?
[19:50] <Loshki> BTJustice: Maybe ubuntu isn't for you. It's ok to go back to Windows.
[19:50] <edoceo> bettycla1p: what else is going on on that machine?
[19:50] <bettycla1p> edoceo: well fwiw, efibootmgr is hogging an entire cpu.
[19:50] <edoceo> Do you have low memory? space?
[19:51] <BTJustice> Loshki: I am fine with Ubuntu if it would do something simple like I want it to do without becoming a programmer or a terminal junkie.
[19:51] <bettycla1p> edoceo: no, neither low on memory nor on disk.
[19:51] <_Jake> I have an older lappy (about 6yrs old) with win xp sp3 and want to set up ubuntu as dual boot machine. What is the best tutorial on the web for that?
[19:52] <BTJustice> Regular folks like me simply want programs to do things like I want to do (hold date and time).
[19:52] <Loshki> BTJustice: sorry, that's just the reality of Ubuntu today...
[19:52] <edoceo> I'm out of ideas, w/o lots (and lots)  of digging around.
[19:53] <edoceo> bettycla1p: can you pastebin some of your outputs?
[19:53] <bastidrazor> _Jake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[19:53] <_Jake> bastidrazor, Thank you sir
[19:54] <BTJustice> Terminal is the cancer of Linux.  Lose terminal, create programs that do those advanced functions, and people will drop Windows like a bad habit.
[19:54] <BTJustice> JMO.
[19:55] <bastidrazor> BTJustice: without terminal everything would be windows
[19:55] <brontosaurusrex> BTJustice: http://www.linfo.org/touch.html
[19:55] <navetz> can someone help me figure out what's going on with my ubuntu ui: http://i.imgur.com/Bxekxj0.png
[19:56] <OerHeks> mavetz what is wrong?
[19:56] <BTJustice> "The touch command is the easiest way to create new, empty files."  Who would want to create empty files?
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> BTJustice: you are so stupid it makes even me look bad, stfu
[19:57] <OerHeks> BTJustice, stop the rant please
[19:57] <BTJustice> brontosaurusrex: Shut up.
[19:57] <bastidrazor> BTJustice: me, so something can log to that file
[19:58] <k1l_> BTJustice: do you have an actual technical ubuntu issue for this support channel?
[19:58] <BTJustice> OerHeks: It's not a rant.  It's the truth.  If Linux is said to be this amazing oasis where the user can do anything they want with the operating system then why is it limited with terminal?
[19:58] <mastershake> hey guys so i just installed ubuntu server 14.01, and i know it doesnt boot me to a GUI, but it hasnt detected my ethernet & wifi adapters.
[19:59] <mastershake> can someone lend a hand? im on a dif laptop ofcourse ATM
[19:59] <k1l_> BTJustice: this is not the offtopic channel. so last warning: do you got an actual ubuntu support issue?
[19:59] <_Jake> bastidrazor, From that article, I gather that installing ubuntu onto a system with existin xp installation - is merely a matter of popping in the ubuntu intall cd and following the prompts? The article doesn't mention much detail or address possible problems or tweaks that may need to occur.
[19:59] <BTJustice> kil_: Yes.  Still waiting for a solution on how to freeze the date and time.
[19:59] <_Jake> Am I reading that right?
[20:00] <[SLB]> is anyone having trouble using the built-in mic with skype 4.3
[20:00] <Loshki> BTJustice: empty files created by "touch" are often used to keep track of times that something happened. It's a cheap way of keeping a timestamp that doesn't disappear when the system reboots.
[20:00] <bettycla1p> edoceo: do you think it would be okay to kill efibootmgr?
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> _Jake: do your data backups first
[20:00] <OerHeks> mastershake, https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[20:02] <bastidrazor> _Jake: yes. also it would be wise to create an unallocated partition, in windows, for the ubuntu install. Then do the ubuntu install
[20:02] <mastershake> OerHeks: Its a WiFi Adapter i would like to configure, will this make a difference?
[20:02] <BTJustice> Loshki: I understand what you are saying but it doesn't help me in wanting to see what actual files are accessed or modified.  If I could simply freeze the sate and time and copy the files and folders over while all timestamps for those files are set to the frozen date a time, I could easily see when they have been accessed and modified.
[20:02] <Loshki> BTJustice: the terminal is one of the most powerful tools available on Unix. If you don't want to learn it, get a Mac or a windows machine. You'll be happier...
[20:02] <edoceo> bettycla1p: I don't really know.
[20:03] <BUSY> what's the hotkey or shortcut or alias for "last word in last command" at the prompt?
[20:03] <edoceo> If it was me, and I had that box local, I'd kill it and hopt for the best
[20:03] <edoceo> BUSY: CTRL+R, END
[20:03] <Eduard_Munteanu> Who do I need to bug to get some attention on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/1371926
[20:03] <_Jake> brontosaurusrex, For sure. bastidrazor, What's you thought on ntfs resize as opposed to a windows reinstall?
[20:04] <bishakh> BTJustice:you want to keep trak of what changes you make to your files over time and go back to time if necessary.. right?
[20:04] <OerHeks> mastershake, sure, this 12.04 howto is still valid as example http://askubuntu.com/questions/270901/ubuntu-server-12-04-2-wireless-connections
[20:04] <BTJustice> Eduard_Munteanu: Because bug reports offer you the power of community!
[20:04] <EriC^^> BTJustice: don't know what you're after, but if you want to get a list of files that have been modified or something since 4hours+ you can use "find"
[20:04] <brontosaurusrex> BUSY: !$ ?
[20:04] <k1l_> BTJustice: last warning now!
[20:04] <BUSY> edoceo: hmm no i mean like if i "mkdir asdf" and then want to "cd asdf" but "asdf" is a lot longer
[20:04] <[SLB]> sigh
[20:05] <BUSY> brontosaurusrex: perfect, thanks!
[20:05] <bishakh> BTJustice: answer me please so that i may try to atleast understand your problem
[20:06] <BTJustice> This is what I am after: a program I can open, pick the date and time, click a button that in turn sets the system date and time to what I specified in the program and holds/freezes it.  I then simply copy files and folders over so they are all set to the date and time I specified in said program.  When done coping/pasting, I close the program to return back to the current date and time.  This is exactly what the Windows' program "Clock Stopper" does.
[20:07] <bastidrazor> _Jake: defrag and you should fine with a resize
[20:08] <_Jake> bastidrazor, right on. thxt again man. peace
[20:08] <bastidrazor> _Jake: good luck
[20:08] <bishakh> so its a date/time changer for files? :P
[20:09] <mastershake> hey guys i just installed ubuntu server and its not recognizing my wlan0
[20:09] <BTJustice> Not exactly a changer.  More like whenever files and folders are copied, their timestamps are the frozen date and time.
[20:09] <edoceo> BTJustice:  while true; do date 201309261300; done
[20:09] <edoceo> Then CTRL+C when done copying
[20:09] <mastershake> im in the bash prompt and still debating weather i want the GUI or not
[20:09] <bishakh> BTJustice:when you fix a time, do the files folders get back that you had deleated of changed?
[20:09] <EriC^^> BTJustice: thats the most ridonculous thing ive ever heard, clock freezer!
[20:10] <mastershake> im not a linux pro although i will be taking my LPI soon
[20:10] <EriC^^> BTJustice: use touch like a sane person
[20:10] <bishakh> BTJustice:so it changes the "last modified " only?
[20:10] <Eduard_Munteanu> I frankly wonder why nobody else reports these issues. People must not care about secure downloads, or there are so few people installing Ubuntu from non-Ubuntu.
[20:10]  * OerHeks mumbles mount read only
[20:11] <NathanBasanese> Hi!
[20:11] <NathanBasanese>   // , Jay, are you here?
[20:11] <_Jake> thx
[20:11] <NathanBasanese> Here's the command line I wanted you to run, to switch to OpenBox: sudo apt-get install openbox obmenu obconf tint2 volti xfce4-mixer xfce4-power-manager nitrogen clipit gmrun gksu
[20:11] <Gully_foyle_Jay> yeah I'm here
[20:11] <Gully_foyle_Jay> hold on
[20:11] <BTJustice> bishakh: It changes all timestamps.  And it is not really "change".  The timestamps simply use the current date and time which I want to freeze at a specific date and time.
[20:12] <Gully_foyle_Jay> I'm reading something cory sent me
[20:12] <cyberpolice> netflix on ubuntu 14.04: http://i.imgur.com/CBZRX3k.jpg
[20:12] <bishakh> BTJustice: i am sitting here gathering ideas about whats lacking in ubuntu/linux.. and you gave the dummest idea for gods sake
[20:12] <BTJustice> cyberpolice: Install pipelight then activate silverlight and widevine.
[20:13] <k1l_> bishakh: no need for that attitude. stay on topic please.
[20:13] <cyberpolice> BTJustice: no more. just update libnss3, get google chrome beta, install useragent spoof extension, spoof useragent, and watch netflix
[20:13] <mastershake> can anyone help me out here? im dead in the water basically
[20:13] <edoceo> BTJustice:  while true; do date 201309261300; done
[20:13] <mastershake> this fresh install of server14.01 wont recognize my wlan0 or eth0 just my loopback
[20:13] <edoceo> That loop will tightly force your clock to the given dae
[20:14] <levo> how could i know if I'm vulnerable to bash bug?
[20:14] <bazhang_2> hello
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> edoceo: still a bad idea imho
[20:14] <bazhang_2> levo: the bash bug was overhyped
[20:14] <Gully_foyle_Jay> back
[20:14] <edoceo> Oh, hell yea; terrible idea
[20:14] <NathanBasanese> sudo apt-get install openbox obmenu obconf tint2 volti xfce4-mixer xfce4-power-manager nitrogen clipit gmrun gksu
[20:14] <k1l_> levo: run the updates, that will get you the patched version and you are safe
[20:14] <bazhang_2> bazhang is so annoying
[20:14] <edoceo> But, if folk want to hang themselves I've got plenty of rope
[20:14] <OerHeks> levo, you were not, as ubuntu uses Dash, not Bash
[20:14] <levo> OerHeks: are u sure?
[20:14] <brontosaurusrex> edoceo: :)
[20:14] <edoceo> I'm not here to tell you how to do it correctly; nobody wants to here that anyway
[20:14] <edoceo> *Hear
[20:15] <levo> OerHeks: no it uses bash
[20:15] <mastershake> ugh :(
[20:15] <TTN> mastershake, figure out what chipset you have and then have a google to find out if there's a special procedure for that chip to get it going
[20:15] <Flannel> OerHeks: That's not accurate.
[20:15] <mastershake> okay thanks TTN ill give that a try
[20:15] <mastershake> would a dmesg tell me my chipset?
[20:16] <levo> k1l_: i've updated, but i'm not sure if it has updated the repos.
[20:16] <Flannel> levo: If you've updated your bash in the past day or so, you have the patched versions (see the CVEs for exact package version details)
[20:16] <edoceo> mastershake: `lspci`
[20:16] <k1l_> levo: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy bash"
[20:17] <Flannel> levo: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2364-1/ lists the package versions that have been fully-patched.
[20:17] <TTN> mastershake, try lspci | grep "Network"
[20:17] <NathanBasanese> http://ndever.net/articles/linux/install-openbox-ubuntu-1304-1310
[20:17] <levo> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/P6uSXwP1
[20:18] <NathanBasanese>   // , Jay, here's this, too: http://punygeek.blogspot.com/2012/10/ubuntu-1204-how-to-solve-disk-drive-for.html
[20:19] <k1l_> levo: its not the latest version. please run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you get the latest packages installed
[20:19] <squinty> mastershake:  might find the following of use  https://code.google.com/p/inxi/   it's in repo's so install if not already installed
[20:19] <NathanBasanese> sudo gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false; &
[20:19] <k1l_> levo: after that it should report 4.3-7ubuntu1.4 as installed version
[20:19] <NathanBasanese>   // , gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons false;
[20:20] <reisio> NathanBasanese: /// quoi?
[20:20] <levo> k1l_: i think something's wrong with my repo list that apt-get update , looks up. i think it doesn't update the list
[20:21] <NathanBasanese>   // , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Openbox
[20:21] <k1l_> levo: run my command please, than show the output in a pastebin so we can take a look at.
[20:21] <squinty> mastershake:  as you can see from that webshot, current networking specs can be easily seen by issuing the simple command of   inxi -Nnx
[20:21] <k1l_> *then
[20:22] <levo> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/a0dEWCSv
[20:22] <EriC^^> BTJustice: touch should work, and btw *.* doesn't mean everything, if you want everything visible in the folder use *
[20:22] <levo> k1l_: that's the only output
[20:22] <mastershake> TTN: A lspci says i only have a ethernet chipset
[20:22] <mastershake> which is not the case
[20:23] <EriC^^> BTJustice: do you have files in directories like /test/test1/ ?
[20:23] <TTN> mastershake, ok. The grep bit is filtering lines out all lines that don't have "Network" in them. try just lspci
[20:24] <k1l_> levo: you use a proxy?
[20:24] <mastershake> which controller am i looking for? communication, network?
[20:25] <k1l_> levo: seems like your network is blocking the google domain (to block ads?!?) and that is blocking you from getting the google repo. so as a fix either remove the google repo or change the network settings
[20:25] <mastershake> The network controller, right?
[20:25] <NathanBasanese>   // , Actually, Jay, this seems better: http://crunchbang.org/about/
[20:26] <BTJustice> EriC^^: I have pretty much given up on what I am wanting to do.  I am actually a bit in shock when after explaining what I wanted to do and showing a Windows program that does exactly that, I am called a fool and stupid in this Linux support channel where I figured I could go to find that answer.
[20:26] <levo> k1l_: but that's only about google. what about other things and that it doesn't update the bash
[20:26] <levo> ?
[20:26] <k1l_> BTJustice: honestly: you rae to focused on the "windows way". there are several other solutions to the task you want. without blocking the timestamp.
[20:27] <vitimiti> hi
[20:27] <reisio> heyo
[20:27] <bishakh> BTJustice: just focus on changing the timestamp i guess
[20:27] <k1l_> levo: the updates stops because of that blocking of google. so i showed you 2 solutions. either change network/proxy settings or remove the google repo
[20:28] <BTJustice> kil_: I was told to try "touch".  I see there is "faketime" and "datefudge" but those only change the timestamps within terminal apparently.
[20:28] <mastershake> can anyone help with these basic questions or is this a bad time?
[20:28] <bishakh> mastershake: go ahead
[20:29] <reisio> mastershake: server with wireless only?
[20:29] <mastershake> bishakh: fresh installed Ubuntu server 14.01, boots to bash and cant identify my wireless adapter
[20:29] <mastershake> lspci does not shwo it
[20:30] <k1l_> mastershake: get the exact chip info. and the server doesnt start wifi as default. so you need to install a program that manages the wifi
[20:30] <mastershake> ohh like network-manager
[20:30] <squinty> mastershake:  again   inxi -Nnx   (install inxi if not installed)  see my previous comments
[20:30] <Flannel> BTJustice: You are correct, touch will do what you want (set the modified time to an arbitrary timestamp)
[20:30] <mastershake> i cant install inxi
[20:31] <levo> k1l_: i couldn't file google.com listed on /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:32] <levo> *find
[20:32] <k1l_> levo: its a PPA in sources.list.d
[20:32] <k1l_> levo: its easier to disable it in the gui. see in system settings
[20:33] <squinty> levo:  use your software updater to change the sources and/or disable the ppa.  all you have to is click
[20:33] <NathanBasanese>   // . http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/213716/formal-logic
[20:33] <bishakh> mastershake: you have no wlan0 so no internet to install stuff?
[20:33] <[SLB]> must be in sources.list.d
[20:34] <levo> squinty: i commented out using "vi"
[20:34] <sanjeb> hi all
[20:34] <levo> k1l_: yes! that f** b** was the reason for incomplete update
[20:34] <reisio> ni sanjeb
[20:35] <k1l_> levo: you are using a proxy?
[20:35] <EriC^^> BTJustice: do you want a gui that does this?
[20:35] <levo> k1l_: no
[20:36] <levo> k1l_: I do but not that apt-get would use it, only my browser uses it
[20:36] <brontosaurusrex> BTJustice: http://paste.debian.net/plain/123523
[20:36] <sanjeb> question: my computer is not letting me access my admin account. I can access them through the cntrl+alt+F1, only access to my computer is through the quest account. How do I create a new admin account to access my files?
[20:36] <k1l_> levo: well. somewhere is a problem in that network setting.
[20:36] <brontosaurusrex> BTJustice: and what do you mean with "within terminal" ?
[20:37] <sanjeb> I am using kubuntu 14.04
[20:37] <knob> Hey guys, I got a n00b question: I have a fresh install of an Ubuntu 14.04 server (small VPS).   Do I have to configure something so the server can send out eMails?      The eMails are not "mass emails"... they're "alert emails" I want to configure for when a cronjob or something does not run.
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info ssmtp | knob, this was the easiest I saw, all it does is use a popular email like gmail to send out the mail.
[20:38] <sanjeb> tried more than once to solve the original issue but nothing happened, so I need at least access my files
[20:38] <knob> SchrodingersScat, checking out ssmtp
[20:38] <knob> thanks
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> knob: ssmtp - extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub
[20:39] <rom1504> sanjeb: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+reset+root+password
[20:39] <knob> Aight... on my way!
[20:39] <mastershake> how am i gonna install inxi if i cant get online wiht the thing
[20:39] <k1l_> sanjeb: stop. so the gui login is not working but on console it works?
 yes
[20:40] <bishakh> mastershake: do you have eth0 ?
 im still not that expert in linux
[20:41] <knob> brontosaurusrex, that looks... very nice and simple!
[20:41] <mastershake> no i do not bishakh
[20:41] <mastershake> not yet anyway
[20:41] <bastidrazor> mastershake: for cli way to fix your issues #ubuntu-server may be a good channel
[20:41] <k1l_> sanjeb: see in console if in that users /home the .XAuthority file(s) belong to user:user (where user is your nick) or root:root. (test with ls -al). if root:root you need to change that back with "sudo chown user:user file"
[20:42] <squinty> mastershake:  have to do it the old way then  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Drivers
[20:42] <bishakh> mastershake: what type of machine are you using? laptop? or some desktop with a separate nic?
[20:42] <mastershake> Lenovo Thinkpad T410
[20:43] <Guest84563> clear
[20:43] <Guest84563> sudo reboot
[20:44] <squinty> mastershake: you may have a broadcom unit   in that case  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx    but if that is the case, then you will need to download them somehow because they are not included with the installation process
[20:44] <brontosaurusrex> knob: I have this on some intranet ubuntu-server and its working for years now, so it should be fine
[20:45] <mastershake> lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4 displays nothing
[20:45] <knob> brontosaurusrex, thanks :)
[20:45] <knob> Doing this now
[20:46] <squinty> mastershake:  and if the ubuntu based docs are lacking, then google for related archlinux docs which are usually more than complete for information purposes
[20:46] <bekks> mastershake: It may be connected using USB, internally.
[20:47] <mastershake> so then,,, umm idk... dmesg | grep -i wifi ?
[20:47] <bekks> mastershake: dmesg | grep -i bcm
[20:48] <mastershake> bekks: nothing either.
[20:48] <mastershake> but during the installation, it made me connect to my AP
[20:48] <bekks> mastershake: So which chipset exactly do you have?
[20:48] <bekks> *wifi chipset
[20:49] <mastershake> my ehternet chipset is intep corp. 82577LM gigabit network connection rev 06
[20:49] <bekks> mastershake: the ethernetr chipset is out of interest when talking about wifi ;)
[20:49] <squinty> bekks:  that is what he is trying to determine :)
[20:50] <squinty> bekks:  wifi that is
[20:50] <NathanBasanese>   // , https://docs.python.org/2/reference/expressions.html
[20:50] <bekks> mastershake: so just pastebin "lspci and lsusb please.
 I get "ls: cannot access al: No such file or directory" when I type ls al
[20:51] <brontosaurusrex> sanjeb: ls -al
[20:51] <reisio> NathanBasanese: you aware all your msgs start with '  //  , ' ?
[20:51] <squinty> mastershake:  you did check out this page?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide/Commands
 ops
[20:51] <mastershake> okay one sec guys
[20:51] <sanjeb> 1 sec
[20:51] <reisio> or is that just a spam bot?
[20:52] <OerHeks> bad programming reisio
[20:52] <reisio> ?
[20:52] <reisio> is he talking to someone?
 ok, command showed me the users
[20:53] <OerHeks> reisio, earlier to a 'Jay"
[20:53] <ndut2> hi guys , now you can get freedns for 0x71.org and Our Official irc server is open : irc.0x71.org port 6667 official Channel #0x71
[20:54] <ndut2> hi guys , now you can get freedns for 0x71.org and Our Official irc server is open : irc.0x71.org port 6667 official Channel #0x71
[20:54] <OerHeks> ndut2, please don't spam on #freenode, thanks
[20:54] <reisio> OerHeks: so who's he talking to now?
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> once was more than enough
[20:54] <OerHeks> reisio, apparently to <Gully_foyle_Jay>  who has left
[20:54] <reisio> kay...
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> oh i know a a Gully_foyle_Jay
 what do I do after the ls -al?
[20:57] <funtastic> hey folks in following command useradd -d /home/spree -m -s /bin/bash spree what does m and s means?
[20:57] <brontosaurusrex> sanjeb: don't know what are you doing
[20:57] <funtastic> d is directory
[20:57] <reisio> funtastic: man useradd will say
 I posted this question:
[20:58] <bazzzb> !useradd | funtastic
[20:58] <sanjeb>   <brontosaurusrex> my computer is not letting me access my admin account. I can access them through the cntrl+alt+F1, only access to my computer is through the quest account. How do I create a new admin account to access my files?
[20:58] <OerHeks> -m create home -M do not create home
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> hey — i was doing sudo do-release-upgrade and lost connection
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> it looks like i can’t update now
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> sudo apt-get update E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> the last item was: *** apache2.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Write failed: Broken pipe
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> so I don’t know what message was sent to the server
[20:59] <funtastic> bazzzb: ty
[20:59] <logan> hy all
[21:00] <OerHeks> bonhoeffer, try apt-get install -f
[21:00] <[SLB]> bonhoeffer, maybe apt-get is still running and you have to kill it before running it again
[21:00] <Guest86976> i have a question
[21:00] <squinty> or remove the lock file
[21:00] <bonhoeffer> crap — sudo is not working
[21:01] <Guest86976> where i found link to download bittorrent
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> or at least i’m not able to get the password
[21:01] <Guest86976> torrent file
[21:01] <brontosaurusrex> sanjeb: so your virtual console lets you login as an admin user?
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> with my guesses, could this be the upgrade
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> zsh: command not found: apt-get
[21:01] <reisio> Guest86976: for ubuntu?
[21:01] <SchrodingersScat> !torrent | Guest86976
[21:02] <SchrodingersScat> oops, meant the http://torrent.ubuntu.com
[21:02] <Guest86976> ty
 yes
[21:02] <Guest86976> i use qbittorrent but the engine research is not complete
[21:03] <brontosaurusrex> sanjeb: ok, so that sounds like a unity problem, so ill skip that
 but when I try to log in my admin the screen just shows background and cant do anything
 I gguess so
[21:04] <bonhoeffer> [SLB]: what process do i need to kill
[21:04] <mastershake_e> okay so a sudo lshw -C network displays my ethernet and wireless adapters, however, it indicates a "*- network DISABLED" argument in its output
[21:04] <Guest86976> where i found new server list?
[21:05] <bonhoeffer> or squinty, what lock file should i delete
[21:07] <squinty> sanjeb:  might want to try ctrl alt f1  and then  restart unity with:  setsid unity   and then try logging back into your desktop via  ctrl alt f7   (use at your own discretion)
[21:08] <squinty> bonhoeffer:  lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock   see if that returns anything
[21:08] <bonhoeffer> dpkg    2064 root    3uW  REG  202,0        0 87122 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[21:09] <mastershake_e> AH GUYS I FOUND MY WIFI CHIPSET
[21:09] <reisio> gj
[21:09] <squinty> bonhoeffer:  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock    (use at your own discretion)
[21:09] <bonhoeffer> squinty: just delete that file — i would love to join the upgrade process
[21:09] <mastershake_e> but wait someone told me by default ubuntu server only loads ur ethernet first then you need to install the wifi afterwards is this true?
[21:10] <Thumpxr> hey. i have a spdif optical output and a 3,5mm jack(headset)on my machine. but only can access the optical output. in windows i always got both and could chose which i want to use.. how van i enable this in ubuntu?
[21:10] <mastershake_e> you know what fuck this im just install ubuntu i just need a few services anyway this is in no way going to be a production level machine
[21:10] <squinty> mastershake_e:  there is a server installation doc available... someone posted you the link earlier
[21:10] <squinty> mastershake_e:  family channel  :)
[21:10] <mastershake_e> thanks anyway this is just too annoying
[21:11] <mastershake_e> oops! my mistake.
[21:11] <bonhoeffer> squinty: i did some research and screen -x was the key
[21:11] <squinty> bonhoeffer:  cool.. thanks for the update. :)
[21:11] <sanjeb> is it a safe thing to change my kubuntu 14.04 from unity to gnome?
[21:12] <zombiefox> sanjeb: yes.
[21:12] <bonhoeffer> squinty: just glad to grab my process back
[21:13] <squinty> bonhoeffer:  do you have a url reference for the screen -x that you were reading?  thanks
[21:14] <k1l> sanjeb: hey, was afk.
[21:14] <sanjeb> "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback" is the right command?
 wb
[21:15] <k1l> sanjeb: so what is the owner of .XAuthority from your main-user
[21:15] <bonhoeffer> squinty: do-release-upgrade started a screen session
 I have two admin users
 both freeze at log in
[21:16] <k1l> sanjeb: the one that cant log in to the desktop
[21:16] <bonhoeffer> so glad linux works that way . . . like a  remote desktop
[21:16] <bonhoeffer> provides a port and everything
 both cant log in, created the other to access my files, but it became unaccessible as well
[21:17] <squinty> bonhoeffer:  will keep that in mind.  thanks again. :)
 sanjeb: so what is the owner of .XAuthority from your main-user
 you mean what I get after typing "ls -al"?
[21:20] <k1l> sanjeb: yes, that was your task: see who is the owner of that file.
[21:20] <funta> hi
[21:20] <funta> is this a safe way to create ssh only access? http://pastebin.com/wHJtapSU
[21:21] <k1l> sanjeb: "i cant log in" can have a drazillion of reasons. so we need to get to know what is going wrong. its an easy task: see who is owner of the file in that user home directory, so we can see if that is the reason
[21:21] <funta> I wonder what for chmod 700 is required
[21:21] <k1l> funta: only the owner of that file can read, edit and execute that file
 file not in the list
[21:24] <k1l> sanjeb: must be
[21:24] <squinty> ls -al | grep .Xauthority  (make sure you are in your home directory)
[21:24] <k1l> grep -i
[21:24] <quey> hello
[21:25] <reisio> hi
[21:25] <squinty> not need here  captial X
[21:25] <funta> k cool
[21:25] <quey> can i ask something about learning codeing?
[21:25] <k1l> ah sorry, its Xa, thought it was XA
[21:26] <sanjeb> " ls -al | grep -i .Xauthority"?
[21:26] <jacob___> oh ,an speak of the devil
[21:26] <squinty> sanjeb:  either way you should see something similar to the following    -rw-------  1 propman propman    55 Sep 28 11:17 .Xauthority
[21:26] <jacob___> i cant login into ubuntu ; i a, using windows now to type this
[21:26] <jacob___> help please
[21:27] <jacob___> i see ubunti graphical but no login prompt in gui
[21:27] <jacob___> ubuntu 14.1
[21:27] <jacob___> i rebooted with sudo reboot
[21:27] <jacob___> and all hell broke loose
[21:27] <Thumpxr> hey. i have a spdif optical output and a 3,5mm jack(headset)on my machine. but only can access the optical output. in windows i always got both and could chose which i want to use.. how van i enable this in ubuntu?
[21:28] <k1l> sanjeb: that is not rocket sience. go into the /home/user , do ls -al, see what owner is of .Xautority.
[21:28] <jacob___> why does ubuntu doesnt show login prompt in graphical.
[21:28] <k1l> sanjeb: if owner is another than the /home/user you are in that is the problem.
[21:29] <funta> how I can generate rsa private and public keys for use of root auth on windows machine?
[21:29] <k1l> jacob___: is what ubuntu is that (unity? server? version number?) and what did you do before it broke?
[21:30] <jacob___> ub 14.1 i believe
[21:30] <jacob___> i cant chek i cant get into it
[21:30] <jacob___> unity gui
[21:30] <jacob___> i dont do anything
[21:30] <sanjeb> ls -al | grep .Xauthority  does not do anything
[21:30] <jacob___> everything was ok, i ws progra,,ing node in a shell
[21:31] <jacob___> sorry for typo; i am using a diff keyboard its all messed up
[21:31] <jacob___> oh
[21:31] <Bashing-om> sanjeb: Are you where you can see that file ? what retuend from "pwd" .
[21:31] <sanjeb> ok ok
[21:31] <sanjeb> yeah
[21:31] <Bashing-om> returns*
[21:31] <jacob___> My mediaplayer didnt work
[21:31] <sanjeb> the user is the owner
[21:32] <jacob___> so i rebooted
[21:32] <jacob___> then all went to hell
[21:32] <jacob___> ,y graphics is fracked up
[21:32] <quey> hey, what class in java i need to use to open www in program ?
[21:32] <jacob___> use http client fro, apache.org
[21:32] <quey> thx
[21:33] <funta> folks what is most secure RSA key? RSA 2 and how many bits?
[21:33] <funta> I plan to use puttygen to generate key
[21:33] <edoceo> funta: moar bits!
[21:33] <funta> edoceo: whats the max?
[21:33] <quey> jacob - do you know any good book for learning java?
[21:33] <squinty> funta:  if you are trying to ssh into your linux box,  you can use putty on the windows side
[21:33] <edoceo> IDK, try it - I use 4096 and feel very safe
[21:34] <jacob___> sure; get one of the certification progra,,ers manual
[21:34] <funta> squinty: I am replacing root passwd login with root key login
[21:34] <jacob___> go to javaranch:org
[21:34] <funta> now I have to make key on remote win machine
[21:34] <jacob___> .org
[21:34] <Sunstream> okay I have a question how do i type the unicode characters?
[21:34] <quey> k
[21:34] <funta> is 4000 max for rsa?
[21:34] <funta> or more?
[21:34] <mustmodify> need verification of an issue. I can't get to https://blockscore.com -- but other people on my team can. Can you guys test it?
[21:34] <mustmodify> you can check google.com -- blockscore is a company that verifies people's identities.
 the user is the owner of the file
[21:35] <funta> and its DSA better?
[21:35] <frustrated> Hello.  I've got ubuntu 14.04 installed... I'm trying to use certain KDE tools without installing the entire kubuntu world necessarily.  I've installed plasma-desktop, but I seem to be missing some key tools, like muon, konversation and others.  There is so much old information out on the web that I really don't know where to find these things.  Any help?  I finally broke down and tried to install kubuntu-desktop, but none of my
[21:35] <reisio> sounds like a site nobody should visit, then
[21:35] <mustmodify> reisio:
[21:35] <mustmodify> reisio: why?
[21:35] <Sunstream> i can open blockscore
[21:36] <mustmodify> It won't verify your identity when you get there.
[21:36] <mustmodify> It's a service they provide.
[21:36] <mustmodify> Sunstream: ok thanks.
[21:36] <Bashing-om> sanjeb: compare ; -rw-------  1 sysop sysop     209 Aug  1 10:10 .Xauthority m where I am "sysop" .
[21:36] <funta> On the server, a DSA key is preferred, because then the key exchange will use a transient Diffie-Hellman key, which opens the road for "Perfect Forward Secrecy" (i.e. if a bad guy steals the server private key, he still cannot decrypt past connections that he would have recorded).
[21:36] <funta> hehe
[21:36] <k1l> sanjeb: ok. what ubuntu exactly? what version number, what desktop? does the login screen appear? what happens when you login?
[21:36] <funta> right?
[21:36] <Sunstream> your DNS server may be byorked
[21:36] <mustmodify> two others is all I think I need to call support.
[21:36] <mustmodify> Sunstream: It's not DNS...
[21:36] <Sunstream> then?
[21:36] <squinty> mustmodify: no problems logging onto the site here.
[21:36] <mustmodify> Sunstream: but traceroute fails after 2 hops.
[21:36] <reisio> visiting a site whose purpose is to find out things about you seems daft
[21:36] <Sunstream> then its your isp or the route
[21:37] <Sunstream> sorry no one can fix that here. :(
[21:37] <reisio> it actually _gives_ them information, as well as encouraging them
[21:37] <mustmodify> Sunstream: yeah, it's my ISP
[21:37] <mustmodify> I get to the first machine past my router and then nothing.
 kubuntu 14.04, im using a netbook toshiba NB510, and when I try to log in the only thing that happens is that the log in box disappears and nothing else happens
[21:38] <bonhoeffer> i upgraded to 14x and apache2 is all messed up: .htaccess: <IfModule not allowed here
[21:38] <bonhoeffer> getting that for each site in server logs
[21:39] <k1l> sanjeb: what did you do before that happened?
[21:39] <frustrated> mustmodify: traceroute and/or ping failing are not necessarily indicators of anything... the devices in between you and your target may be denying ICMP messages
[21:39] <bonhoeffer> and kept my old apache2.conf, but had to modify it a big, would love to get a clean apache2 file
[21:40] <frustrated> mustmodify: what port are you trying to reach?  Is it http on port 80 ?
 I dont remember, I might have updated the system
[21:40] <frustrated> frustrated: it sounds like your firewall may be an issue.
[21:41] <frustrated> mustmodify: it sounds like your firewall may be an issue
 I have been stuck like this for a couple of months now
[21:41] <bonhoeffer> any idea where i could wget a clean apache2.conf file from ?
[21:41] <bonhoeffer> here is your chance to hack like a madman . . .:(
[21:41] <reisio> ask apt-file
[21:42] <bonhoeffer> sorry, need a litte more hand holding apt-file is new
[21:42] <bonhoeffer> and 8 sites are down :(
[21:42] <Sunstream> sigh
[21:42] <reisio> stop frowning, this isn't #infant-children-to-babysit
[21:42] <bonhoeffer> true that
[21:43] <daftykins> man apt-file
[21:43] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[21:43] <Sunstream> I cannot I cannot figure out how to send unicode characters...
[21:44] <Flannel> bonhoeffer: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/apache2  If you click on an "architecture" (see bottom), you'll get links to that deb file at a variety of mirrors.
[21:44] <OerHeks> when you have it, start with cp apache2.conf  apache2.conf.clean
[21:44] <SchrodingersScat> Sunstream: what is a unicode charater? «
[21:44] <k1l> sanjeb: what does the .xsession-errors from that users home tell you?
[21:45] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: 㵕
[21:45] <bonhoeffer> reisio: thanks for the ref to apt-file
[21:45] <Sunstream> it is a character like ↁↀ
[21:45] <reisio> rofl
[21:45] <SchrodingersScat> ╛?
[21:45] <Sunstream> yeah those things
[21:45] <reisio> Sunstream: CTRL+SHIFT+u, number, ENTER
[21:45] <Sunstream> I tried that
[21:45] <SchrodingersScat> space works for me
[21:45] <reisio> try harder
[21:45] <Sunstream> ª
[21:45] <Sunstream> okay
 I get three notes
[21:46] <Sunstream> i let go of they keys then type the number
[21:46] <k1l> can you pastebin them?
[21:46] <Sunstream> Ŷ that was what I was doing wrong
 1st: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
[21:46] <reisio> Sunstream: :)
 asking for cache data failed
[21:47] <Sunstream> let go of the ctrl shift u before the number
 and...
[21:47] <reisio> as long as you know it
[21:47] <Wulframn> Ưňïçőđə!
[21:47] <Sunstream> thank you
[21:47] <Flannel> bonhoeffer: If it's a package (file) you already have installed, you can use `dpkg -S /path/to/file` to tell you which package it's from.
[21:47] <k1l> sanjeb: exact errors matter. maybe you should start a live-cd/usb to get the exact logs
 oh, sorry... these two notes only
[21:47] <bonhoeffer> would love a github raw location — still waiting for apt-file to install
[21:47] <twirm> is #ubuntu+1 talking about the ubuntu 14.10 beta?
[21:48] <mustmodify_> frustrated: thanks. I'm calling my ISP. I suspect it's at their end but you can never tell.
[21:48] <k1l> twirm: yes
[21:48] <Sunstream> its 60℉
[21:48] <bonhoeffer> but i need to make sure it is the right version
[21:48] <mustmodify_> They'll probably just tell me to unplug and re-plug-in my router. :)
[21:48] <Wulframn> Did you try turning it off and on again?
[21:49] <Sunstream> I been trying to do the ° for a while now
[21:49] <mustmodify_> frustrated: I'm trying to hit https so that's 443.
[21:49] <frustrated> mustmodify_: does your firewall allow it?
[21:50] <mustmodify_> yes
[21:50] <mustmodify_> and this site worked recently. :)
[21:51] <frustrated> mustmodify_: try telnet site 443
[21:51] <funta> after I generated RSA keys with putty gen do I need to save key fingerprint and key comment somewhere?
[21:51] <frustrated> where site is of course where you're trying to get to
[21:51] <Sunstream> 
[21:52] <frustrated> mustmodify_: depending on the results, you should probably get a better idea of why it's failing.
[21:53] <bonhoeffer> is there a way to get back the default apache2.conf that goes with 2.4.7
[21:54] <daftykins> bonhoeffer: reinstall it
[21:54] <bonhoeffer> how — with apt-get
[21:54] <daftykins> yes, the way you install software
[21:54] <funta> Once you’ve finished generating this key, you will need to copy the public version of this key over to the new server. - how I copy it from win machine?
[21:54] <funta> :D
[21:54] <bonhoeffer> sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2
[21:55] <daftykins> funta: WinSCP
[21:55] <funta> daftykins: ok and and i save it under which name?
[21:55] <daftykins> stick to the guide you're reading
[21:55] <funta> daftykins: its not mention windows option
[21:56] <funta> but I will google it
[21:56] <daftykins> oh hang on
[21:56] <daftykins> you want to key auth connect to a host from Windows?
[21:56] <funta> nope
[21:56] <daftykins> get PuTTY, or my favourite - KiTTY
[21:56] <funta> sorry yes :D
[21:56] <funta> crazy night
[21:57] <funta> I made key with putty gen just have to see in which format to save it
[21:57] <funta> the public key
[21:57] <daftykins> plenty of guides online i'm sure
[21:58] <funta> cool
[21:58] <frustrated> funta: you'd probably want to save the file to your ~/.ssh directory
[21:58] <funta> also hosting provider made 2 root users, root and oneprovider -  I wonder is oneprovider user is used for recovery of passwd and some other useful stuff
[21:58] <funta> frustrated: yep but as what?
[21:58] <funta> key.txt nope?
[21:59] <funta> this is linux version from howto  scp ~/.ssh/spree_rsa.pub spree@[your server's address]:~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[21:59] <funta> oki got it
[21:59] <funta> as .pub
[21:59] <frustrated> funta: yep
[21:59] <daftykins> hang on - we're not giving you support if you've got a hosting provider... contact them
[22:00] <funta> daftykins: its unmanaged server :D
[22:00] <funta> hehe
[22:00] <frustrated> funta: rsa if you're using RSA encryption
[22:00] <funta> well anyway i figured it out
[22:00] <funta> yes I use rsa
[22:00] <daftykins> i don't get what you mean by that
[22:00] <funta> RSA2
[22:01] <bonhoeffer> i have /etc/apache2/sites-enabled, but they aren’t running
[22:01] <funta> frustrated: in puttygen when I save public key it saves it extensionless so I simply rename it?
[22:01] <frustrated> daftykins: He means they don't provide support.  He pays for a machine and is responsible to do all of his own management of it.
[22:01] <bonhoeffer> i get the default — i forget, how do i modify to point to them
[22:01] <funta> frustrated: ty :)
[22:01] <daftykins> ok, bit annoying though
[22:01] <frustrated> daftykins: Yes, but cheaper.
[22:01] <funta> way cheaper
[22:01] <daftykins> you should buy a service you're capable of operating
[22:02] <daftykins> anyway, this is off topic.
[22:02] <funta> daftykins: ty for your suggestion :D
[22:02] <funta> and yes
[22:02] <frustrated> funta: is it a dedicated server?
[22:04] <funta> bonhoeffer: restart apache
[22:04] <funta> frustrated: yes and price is lovely :D
[22:04] <funta> anyway I am doing it now I understand how
[22:05] <funta> bonhoeffer: also consider using nginx imo its easy to learn
[22:06] <frustrated> bonhoeffer: service apache2 restart
[22:06] <funta> frustrated: .ssh dir should be in the ubuntu root dir?
[22:06] <frustrated> funta: your home dir
[22:07] <funta> true
[22:07] <frustrated> funta: i.e. ~/.ssh
[22:07] <funta> ty
[22:07] <frustrated> yw
[22:10] <funta> I find ubuntu really secure OS once understood how to manage it
[22:14] <funta> frustrated: now I copied key and server rejects it, it also does not ask for password phrase
[22:14] <funta> when I generated key in puttygen and enter passwd do I have to click generate again?
[22:16] <apb1963> funta: rejects it how?
[22:17] <apb1963> funta: what's the error?
[22:19] <funta> server rejected key provided
[22:19] <funta> I guess I have to find ssh conf file and add IdentityFile ~/.ssh/spree_rsa
[22:19] <funta> well with my user :D
[22:24] <apb1963> funta: What are you running on the server side for ssh?
[22:24] <funta> openssh
[22:24] <apb1963> funta: did you generate the key in openssh format?
[22:25] <funta> apb1963: no idea yet to be honest  I used Puttygen
[22:26] <funta> I might start 1 more linux box and follow new tutorial I found
[22:26] <funta> apb1963: also I could use same server to generate keys, what for I need exra server?
[22:26] <funta> since if provider wants to access box they got physical access anyway
[22:27] <l7yl4rl> hey everyone, I'm looking for some help installing related to this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[22:28] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[22:28] <l7yl4rl> yep, I've tried that and all the options listed there.
[22:28] <l7yl4rl> I'm getting no signal to my monitor after goign through all install options.
[22:29] <apb1963> funta: There's a box that talks about a key for openssh in puttygen....
[22:29] <l7yl4rl> after specifying my user name and everything. I've also verified the disk using the built-in utility and it loads as a live cd just fine.
[22:30] <apb1963> funta: See if this helps:  http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/generating-rsa-keys-with-ssh-puttygen#Assigntoexisting
[22:30] <l7yl4rl> any other suggestions before d/l and trying the alternate cd?
[22:30] <ObrienDave> l7yl4rl, sorry, i would not know
[22:33] <bonhoeffer> anyone know why a2ensite can’t find a site in sites-available
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> anyone know why a2ensite doesn’t work with a site that is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> i know i could copy them manually
[22:34] <daftykins> don't repeat yourself
[22:34] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server and possibly an apache channel would be more useful i'd think
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> sorry if i did —
[22:34] <bonhoeffer> agreed . . . httpd perhaps
[22:35] <bonhoeffer> but those guys often say ubuntu mods it so much they can’t help
[22:35] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: I'm not sure what file extension a2ensite expects.  Try giving it the full filename
[22:36] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: I'm pretty sure the spec has changed.
[22:36] <bonhoeffer> will do
[22:37] <bonhoeffer> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/b302174055c98503acef <— my problem
[22:38] <cornell> TTFN
[22:40] <funta> apb1963: brilliant article! works 100% now :D
[22:42] <bonhoeffer> is there an easy way in bash to rename all *.txt to *.conf
[22:42] <bonhoeffer> find command — what i’ll use
[22:45] <daftykins> bonhoeffer: ask in the bash channel
[22:45] <dj_> hi can someone help me with booting from live USB?
[22:45] <bonhoeffer> daftykins: easy: find . -iname "*.com" -exec mv {} {}.conf \;
[22:46] <daftykins> bonhoeffer: i didn't ask, i don't want to know.
[22:46] <daftykins> !details | dj_
[22:48] <Saudidos> .@syn
[22:49] <Saudidos> .@syn
[22:49] <Saudidos> .@syn
[22:49] <Saudidos> .@syn
[22:49] <Saudidos> ./oper
[22:49] <reisio> Saudidos: error: fail
[22:49] <IRCopNET> hi
[22:50] <reisio> heya irc
[22:50] <dj_> so I unsuccessfully installed Ubuntu alongside with Windows, so i go back to Windows and delete the partition for Ubuntu. The next time I reboot my laptop, I entered grub rescue mode and get a "no such partition" message. but since I already delete the partition, I don't think I can find any partition with Ubuntu installed, right? So then I tried to boot from USB, but it does nothing. I already changed the boot preference to boot from US
[22:50] <dj_> just continues to enter grub rescue mode
[22:50] <reisio> dj_: msg too long
[22:51] <reisio> dj_: fixmbr from a windows install image, talk to #windows about it
[22:51] <sandokanne> hello
[22:51] <sandokanne> finally i got chat working on a rescue disk
[22:51] <dj_> okay..
[22:51] <bubbasaures> dj_, Do you have a windows recovery or install disc?
[22:52] <sandokanne> my ubuntu wont show login screen, it only shows ubuntu background
[22:52] <dj_> nah this laptop doesn't have a CD disk
[22:52] <sandokanne> i need some help
[22:52] <bubbasaures> dj_, The media is the point iso's or on a usb?
[22:53] <bubbasaures> dj_, You need  these to fix the windows boot.
[22:53] <dj_> on a usb
[22:54] <dj_> wait, point iso's?
[22:54] <bubbasaures> dj_, What is the end goal?
[22:54] <sandokanne> honestly, if ubuntu dies it dies good, i dont get this hassle on windows
[22:54] <sandokanne> i used bootrepair
[22:54] <sandokanne> qnd it gave me a crazy number
[22:55] <dj_> to install ubuntu on the machine
[22:55] <sandokanne> is there some log i can look at when ubuntu fails
[22:55] <sandokanne> or the desktop fails?
[22:55] <sandokanne> is there a log somewhere?
[22:55] <bubbasaures> dj_, Than install ubuntu and let it grab grub Is this a W8 dualboot?
[22:56] <daftykins> sandokanne: version?
[22:56] <dj_> W7
[22:57] <dj_> but the thing is the usb doesn't do anything
[22:57] <dj_> it continues to enter grub rescue mode..
[22:59] <squinty> dj_:  take a close look at your initial computer boot splash to see if there is a hotkey to initiate Recovery Mode for windows (not linux or grub recovery).  as long as you have a Windows recovery partition on your harddrive, then you should be able to restore the mbr via that method.  for alternate methods (as suggested before, seek advice in a Windows related channel or forum... or google for that matter as there should be tons of r
[22:59] <squinty> elated information out there)
[23:00] <dj_> I see
[23:00] <dj_> Thank you guys!!
[23:14] <hui> hello how can I install utorrent??
[23:15] <hui> I got a file "utserver.tar.gz"  but how can i install
[23:16] <OerHeks> hui, unpack the file ( doubleclick in filemanager ) and read the readme
[23:17] <hui> ok
[23:21] <reisio> hui: you'd be better off with deluge
[23:23] <hui> thanks, I will have a look
[23:24] <kostkon> hui, or qbitorrent. looks a lot like utorrent. try them both
[23:24] <hui> ok,thanks
[23:25] <test_> basic ubuntu question - is there a graphic equaliser to improve sound on my laptop
[23:27] <reisio> test_: apt-cache search equalizer
[23:28] <kenw2> Super quick question, I have a vps, the remote desktop is laggy, should I buy another core or extra RAM? I don't care what you guys say, I want a simple gui o_o
[23:28] <reisio> kenw2: what're you using for remote desktop?
[23:28] <kenw2> reisio client or server?
[23:29] <k1l> vps-bundles are not meant to run a gui, so you might need to calculate with more ram and cpus cores than the cheapest bundle
[23:30] <reisio> kenw2: both
[23:30] <kenw2> I think I may need another core, 2GB RAM should be fine I thought
[23:30] <Vampire-bill> need to ghost old drive to new ssd clonezilla fails every time not sure about dd could not get it to work going from 1tb to 120g 14.04
[23:30] <kenw2> reisio desktop is lubuntu and remote desktop viewer is tightvnc
[23:31] <kenw2> well lubuntu isnt too laggy
[23:31] <kenw2> Just enough to annoy me though
[23:31] <reisio> you can configure VNC's quality/performance settings
[23:31] <reisio> or you could try something like xrdp
[23:34] <kenw2> reisio I tried the vnc compression level to fastest but no real change
[23:35] <kenw2> I'm just kinda worried that I'll buy more RAM and not have it change the lag
[23:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there a command like clear, but that will only clear say the last two commands inputted?
[23:37] <koell> Akiva-Thinkpad: afaik clear will only scroll down till you dont see the other commands
[23:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> koell, hrmmm
[23:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> that makes sense.
[23:38] <t0ntin> Does anyone know how I can get Flash to work with SRWare Iron? It works with Chromium and other browsers. It stopped working after I upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04
[23:39] <ndut2> freenode is dead , this is terrorist server which freenode and script kiddies ... . come to United Nations Server which is irc.0x71.org ... . you already heard the news ... . We release AstaraOS ... . Come find Us at irc.0x71.org #AstaraOS or #0x71 ... . http://AstaraOS.com
[23:39] <ndut2> freenode is dead , this is terrorist server which freenode and script kiddies ... . come to United Nations Server which is irc.0x71.org ... . you already heard the news ... . We release AstaraOS ... . Come find Us at irc.0x71.org #AstaraOS or #0x71 ... . http://AstaraOS.com
[23:39] <koell> Akiva-Thinkpad: you may create your own command just use something like "pyuserinput" to simulate a scroll
[23:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> koell, a scroll won't work for me
[23:40] <koell> 2 scrolls ^^
[23:41] <ndut2> freenode is dead , this is terrorist server which freenode and script kiddies ... . come to United Nations Server which is irc.0x71.org ... . you already heard the news ... . We release AstaraOS ... . Come find Us at irc.0x71.org #AstaraOS or #0x71 ... . http://AstaraOS.com
[23:41] <squinty> !ops
[23:42] <enchilado> .58
[23:43] <koell> cool
[23:44] <koell> now i know how to call emergency on freenode ^^
[23:44] <daftykins> no, in this channel.
[23:44] <koell> ooh
[23:44] <collizion_> wow, just checked out his website - talks about how to be Christian
[23:44] <rww> let's not give him more attention, thanks
[23:44] <collizion_> so, apparently, the way to be a good christian is to... label a server terrorist?
[23:45] <mjayk> good cristian :o bit of an oxymoron xD
[23:45] <squinty> lol
[23:45] <mjayk> ignore the crazy spammer though hes gone now
[23:45] <rww> guys, enough
[23:45] <funta> hey  I rund useradd -G groupname user and it said user already exist
[23:45] <funta> but user is yet to be in the group
[23:45] <funta> how do I fix it?
[23:46] <rww> log out and back in
[23:46] <spagett> Use usermod
[23:46] <collizion> funta: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/usermod.8.html
[23:46] <funta> rww ok when I use su does it count?
[23:46] <rww> no
[23:47] <spagett> rww is wrong
[23:47] <rww> unsurprising.
[23:47] <collizion> funta: youre trying to modify an existing user (usermod) not add a new one (useradd).
[23:47] <spagett> Useradd adds a new user, usermod doesn't.
[23:53] <funta> collizion: i want to add user to new group
[23:54] <collizion> funta: did you already create the group?
[23:54] <funta> yes
[23:54] <funta> and I am using http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[23:54] <collizion> funta: that only works if the user you're adding to the group doesn't exist yet
[23:54] <collizion> funta: if the user already exists, that wont work
[23:55] <funta> oki so usermod then?
[23:55] <funta> -a -G
[23:55] <collizion> Yup.
[23:55] <collizion> usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[23:57] <funta> ty
[23:59] <Flannel> collizion, funta: No, you should use `adduser USER GROUP`  it's much safer than useradd (less likelyhood of erasing all of your groups)
[23:59] <reisio> or you could pay me $5 to do it
[23:59] <funta> eee?
[23:59] <reisio> even less likely