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tewardI believe https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1374754 is more relevant to the quality team than bugsquad.  (was posted in -bugs)14:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1374754 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Ubuntu14.10 on Virtualbox" [Undecided,New]14:50
knomelooks like a dupe of 137165114:54
knomebug 137165114:54
ubot5bug 1371651 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/137165114:54
knomeoh wait, no14:54
* knome reads the bug14:54
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elopioubuntu-qa: can I get a review here, please? https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/gallery-app/qmltests1/+merge/23539016:05
robotfuelelopio: I will16:07
elopiorobotfuel: thanks.16:07
elfydoesn't look to me like the fix for the vm fail to boot sitting in proposed works16:21
balloons_elfy, I thought there was a second fix?16:33
elfyballoons_: maybe - no real idea - just picking up on bug comments17:07
elfyand there's MP waiting for you - and some comments on testcase bugs :)17:07
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Letozaf_balloons_, hello :-)19:05
balloons_Letozaf_, howdy19:06
elfyballoons_: perhaps talk to wxl about that lx testcase19:06
Letozaf_balloons_, howzit ?19:06
balloons_elfy, ahh indeed, we should add him as a reviwer19:07
balloons_Letozaf_, not bad19:07
elfyevening Letozaf_19:07
wxlballoons_: elfy: which what?19:07
Letozaf_elfy, good evening :-)19:08
elfywxl: you're testcases - you should be fixing them :p19:08
balloons_elfy, LOL.. your19:08
balloons_knome, it finally happened ^^19:08
elfyLMAO balloons_  - you are pointing put typos to me - I've just given up bothering to tell you :)19:09
balloons_elfy, lol, still, amazing19:11
balloons_wxl, https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1374599/+merge/23622219:11
elfyballoons_: heh19:13
elfynot sure why it amazes you given my refusal to use much in the way of punctuation or grammar on IRC :)19:13
wxlelfy: well i'm not a member of testcases if that helps!19:14
elfywxl you should remedy that perhaps :)19:17
wxlwell god i used to be19:21
wxladmittedly i don't see the value in testing mem usage19:22
wxlespecially top19:22
wxldoes anyone else do that???19:22
elfyxubuntu doesn't19:22
wxldoes ubuntu?19:23
wxlor kubuntu?19:23
wxlwe often copy stuff from other teams assuming that they know what they're doing XD19:23
elfywhether it's not so much testing mem or testing that something works in the app or not I've no idea19:23
wxlballoons_: could you add me to testcase admins?19:23
balloons_wxl, certainly!19:24
wxlelfy: yeah, that's the lxtask step which makes some degree of sense. we should be testing OUR apps, because they're unique. seems like a lame test, but if you want to be complete... on the other hand, testing top is Dumb (TM)19:24
gQuigsg2run, not sure of context.. but memory testing can be useful sometimes- https://bryanquigley.com/uncategorized/ubuntu-14-04-livecd-memory-usage-compared19:24
wxli'll just repeat all this on the comments :)19:26
elfywell ...19:26
elfyI'd much rather you do an MP for what *you* want to see in your test and then I'll review that ;)19:27
wxlprobably siiiiiigh19:27
elfyonly reason I do these things is that no-one else appears to do them19:27
balloons_wxl, you should be a member now19:28
wxlok, got some bad news, though19:30
wxli don't necessarily know the procedure for making an MP, elfy. fill me in briefly and i'll make it happen19:30
wxlballoons_: thanks19:31
elfyballoons_: this should be fun :p19:31
wxldon't worry, i know how to turn my computer on19:31
wxland i understand version control :)19:31
elfywxl: you don't know how much I hassled balloons_ 2 years ago lol19:31
wxlelfy: well then you are well equipped to mentor me XD19:32
elfyanyway - bzr branch lp:ubuntu-manual-tests19:32
elfywill get you the branch19:32
elfydo whatever you need to do to the testcase19:32
elfythen bzr commit19:32
wxland push it and that's it?19:32
elfyput whatever you want in the commit comment19:33
elfythen push it - then link a bug - then set it for review on lp19:33
balloons_well now, please use the review system :-)19:33
balloons_anything placed in trunk should then be merged to the tracker and there is a tool for that19:33
wxlthose latter two items (linking, setting for review) is all through lp elfy ?19:33
balloons_elfy, or I can cover it when you get that far19:34
elfywxl: yep19:34
wxlokie should be easy19:34
wxli'll double check with you in a sec19:34
elfyballoons_: review system?19:34
balloons_wxl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/19:34
wxloooh wiki amazing19:34
wxlthx balloons_19:34
balloons_elfy, I meant, don't push straight to trunk19:34
elfyoic yea19:34
elfywxl: I tend to push locally and have a branch with a bug number19:35
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elfyfor instance - number being the bug number - other people do it other ways - but I confuse myself enough without making it worse19:36
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wxlit's asking to compare what lxtask is reporting to what the system is reporting via top.19:38
wxli guess that makes sense19:38
elfywxl: I push to bzr push lp:~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/foo for manual tests19:39
wxlso i'm saying we leave it alone.19:39
wxlaccept your changes19:39
elfywxl: ok - well you can approve in the mp then :)19:40
wxli'm about to approve it unless anyone else wants to complain at me :)19:40
elfyballoons_: and I've never worked out how to use the tool - always do it manually :p19:41
wxli'd rather do it manual anyways19:41
wxlthen you know what you're doing :)19:41
elfywxl: I think the tool is for the merging to trunk19:41
wxlthat seems like it takes less steps on the other hand :)19:42
wxlelfy: keep it up. if i see another i'll promptly review. :) and maybe some day when i have time i'll review our other packages :/19:44
elfywxl: now I know you're about I'll add you to reviews I want you to do - but now I know you're about it's likely that I'll not do lubuntu ones anymore ;)19:48
wxlelfy: don't need to add me as i'll pay attention as long as ubuntu testcase admins gets the notifications. as far as lubuntu is concerned, if you see one, just let me know.19:49
wxlwhy are you always the lone wolf, elfy? this lightdm/plymouth issue has been quite the adventure ;)19:51
balloons_thanks wxl and elfy19:51
wxlnp balloons_19:51
elfyok - that's merged and synced now19:55
elfyballoons_: just the https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1374059/+merge/236015 one left now19:55
elfywaiting for info on a couple of other testcase bugs19:56
elfywxl: yea - that plymouth thing ...19:56
balloons_elfy, ohh right.. brillant,20:00
wxlelfy: i've been playing with a ppc64 box i just got and i had the weirdest thing happen the other day: boots to lightdm and then goes blank on login. i wasn't about to comment until i could repeat it tho. didn't want to freak everyone out ;)20:01
wxlbesides ppc has other issues :/20:03
elfyvbox has been a bit of a pita this cycle - couple of can't boot issues happened20:03
elfyyea - how much longer do you think that you'll have the manpower to keep dealing with it20:04
wxlpffht i don't have the manpower20:04
wxlevery cycle it's a matter of shaking up the users and getting them to quit complaining and start making a difference20:04
wxli did find one guy that seems really pumped to help20:05
wxli'm giving him a g3 and a g420:05
wxlthat will help quite a bit20:05
elfywell for sure I'd not be writing anything like http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-qa-recap/ at the end of this cycle20:05
wxlmy problem is i have time to do sort of high level managing tasks but i don't have a lot of time for hardcore testing and chasing down problems to their root20:06
wxlso trying really hard to build up a really good team20:06
elfyI manage to do both20:06
wxli'd like to say i can. i try to fit in a couple tests where i can, but it's not as easy as it used to be. family life and all :(20:08
elfyI know what you mean - last cycle I had more testing one milestone than I've had for the whole of this one20:08
elfyand yea - when you volunteer - other things happen20:08
wxlwell gone are the days where i stayed up all night testing everything that needed it20:08
wxlbut i'm generally pretty good at team building, so i think it will all work out20:09
wxlthe thing that's weird is ppc users almost are always technically lazy. so building them up to be good testers is an uphill battle :)20:10
elfywhen it comes to the milestones - we appear to have lost a day - last cycle things were out and released for testing on mondays - now it's monday night if we're lucky if not I see it tuesday morning20:10
wxlbut solving our problem with booting this last release was a major win. they got to see bug reports turn into a solution.20:10
wxlyeah i'm in the same boat with you on that one!20:10
elfyalways good to see bugs turn into wins :)20:10
wxlespecially when you have a community supported architecture. they begin to believe they're unimportant!20:11
elfyballoons_: thanks :)20:11
elfywhat I've been pleased with (even if they are bugs) was that these biggish ones I've found this cycle got ubuntu too - hence they looked :)20:12
elfyyou'd not believe the disinterest we got when we got an ibus issue last cycle - we just ended up not seeding it20:12
wxldude ibus devs omg20:12
wxli've gone to their channel like 5 times trying to get them to at least comment20:13
elfyI use symbols in password - like #20:13
elfytry using that when ibus thinks you've got a US keyboard :p and you've not ;)20:13
wxli'm a unicode nut so e.g. in kubuntu ibus is very nice20:14
wxlbut it has so many problems, i won't touch it with a 10 foot pole20:14
wxlunfortunately scim isn't *easily* a drop in replacement. you can't just tell folks to unstall scim and call it a day.20:14
wxlso this may be a stupid question, but i have never been shown a way to get reports of daily testing. is there an option to do so?20:15
elfyand trying to get history is a nightmare20:16
wxlwhat package do i file a bug against? XD20:16
elfyfile it20:16
wxltee hee20:17
elfywe've got some other - this'll make it better bugs filed already20:17
elfywxl: seriously - file it :)20:17
wxloh that was a mischevious giggle. it's happening elfy :)20:17
elfyoh good :)20:17
elfyI'll confirm it20:17
elfyballoons_: ok - merged and synced20:20
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wxlelfy: confirmed and subscribed to yours and here's mine https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/137545620:26
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1375456 in Ubuntu QA Website "no way to subscribe for daily reports" [Undecided,New]20:27
wxlbetter description https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/137545620:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1375456 in Ubuntu QA Website "no way to subscribe to daily reports for a particular product" [Undecided,New]20:28
elfycommented and me too'd it20:29
wxldanke :)20:29
elfywelcome :)20:29
elfythe newest 3 bugs (excluding your one) were ones that pleia2 knome and I thrashed out a short while ago20:30
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