[00:53] <hiren_> harmw: supp
[07:23] <harmw> hiren_: nvm, my configdrive still sucks
[15:45] <smoser> harlowja_away, did you get sorted above ?
[15:45] <smoser> i've never been able to make a network-interfaces appear in config drive either
[15:46] <smoser> harmw, did you re-try my config drive ?
[17:12] <harmw> smoser: apart from networking, it all works
[17:13] <harmw> didn't I say that the othr day? :)
[17:17] <smoser> i'm sorry. i didn't see that. 
[17:17] <smoser> ok. i'll pull that in.
[17:17] <harmw> needo
[17:21] <harmw> hm, no rhel6 juno packages from rdo :|
[17:23] <harlowja> hmmm
[17:23] <harlowja> harmw did u figure out the networking stuff?
[17:24] <harlowja> if u want u can ping 'markmcclain'  in #openstack-neutron, he might be able to help, say josh sent u :-P
[17:24] <harmw> nope, I got to tired
[17:24] <harmw> haha
[17:24] <harlowja> and don't forget to do the secret handshake
[17:24] <harlowja> otherwise, bad  things...
[17:24] <harmw> ah yea
[17:24] <harmw> I once forgot
[17:24] <harmw> ..
[17:24] <harmw> since thn, alwys shake
[17:24] <harlowja> ya, the saga of harmw and his lost fingers, lol
[17:25] <harmw> fingrs? which it ended there...
[17:25] <harlowja> never again!
[17:25] <harlowja> lol
[17:28] <harmw> kinda sux thre apparently are no el6 packages for juno
[17:28] <harmw> I wasn't planing to upgrade both openstack + centos
[17:32] <harlowja> u can generate them
[17:32] <harlowja> using anvil ;)
[17:32] <harlowja> if it works for juno (i haven't tried)
[17:33] <harmw> anvil?
[17:33] <harlowja> my other project, lol
[17:33] <harmw> hmk
[17:34] <harlowja> http://anvil.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/summary.html :-P
[17:34] <harmw> so anvil takes care of sysvinit vs systemd?
[17:34] <harlowja> well it does that by just using sysvinit, lol
[17:34] <harmw> lol!
[17:34] <harlowja> for now :_P
[17:34] <harlowja> :-P
[17:34] <harmw> aren't you clever :>
[17:34] <harlowja> it might not work for juno though, i haven't tried since juno not out yet, lol
[17:35] <harlowja> but it does build things for icehouse
[17:36] <harmw> well, RDO covers icehouse so thats no problem :p
[17:36] <harlowja> :)
[17:36] <harmw> its juno I worry about
[17:36] <harlowja> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8467423/ is a script that will run anvil if u want to try juno
[17:36] <harlowja> u should just be able to point anvil @ https://github.com/stackforge/anvil/blob/master/conf/origins/master.yaml
[17:37] <harlowja> although harmw if u are feeling lucky u can try 'http://209.132.178.33/repos/current/' 
[17:37] <harlowja> which i believe the RH guys are creating from juno
[17:37] <harlowja> using https://github.com/openstack-packages/delorean
[17:37] <harmw> fc20? rdo.fedorapeople also has that :)
[17:38] <harlowja> kk
[17:38] <harlowja> well nm, let me know if anvil works ;)
[17:38] <harlowja> if u want, haha
[17:38] <harmw> hihi
[17:38] <harmw> I'm used to using this repo: https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/openstack-juno/
[17:38] <harlowja> kk, seems similar
[17:38] <harlowja> except none of thats for el6
[17:38]  * harlowja i talked to RH about this, they don't seem to care much about el6 
[17:39] <harlowja> :-/
[17:39] <harmw> hmk, well that sucks
[17:39] <harmw> kinda
[17:40] <harlowja> ya, sucks for people that can't just jump to RHEL7
[17:40] <harlowja> which is like all the enterprise folks, lol
[17:40] <harlowja> *aka me*
[17:40] <harmw> indeed
[17:40] <smoser> harmw, it freebsed config drive merged
[17:40] <harmw> I noticed
[17:40] <harmw> great
[17:41] <harmw> though I want static networking covered/fixed but can't test that on my cloud :(
[17:41] <harmw> it *should* work just fine, but I can't test it (regarding configdrive)
[17:51] <harlowja> hiren_ hopefully can test that
[17:51] <harlowja> since y! uses static networking  + configdrive still
[17:52] <harlowja> *for better or worse*
[19:11] <harmw> harlowja: when did you say you wre planning on visitting RH to do/package Juno for el6?
[19:12] <harlowja> whenever y! get around to it, probably when juno gets released :-P
[19:12] <harmw> hehe
[19:13] <harmw> i'd vouch for Juno rc1 :P
[19:18] <harlowja> :)
[19:18] <harlowja> liekly
[19:18] <harlowja> haha
[19:18] <harlowja> not many people here trust openstack enough to run trunk ;)
[19:19] <harmw> hehe
[19:19] <harmw> wise
[19:20] <harmw> but rc1 stage is a good stage to start harassing RH people they need to package for el6, instead of just 7 :p
[19:21] <harlowja> ya, well we already harassed them a little
[19:21] <harlowja> we'll probably harass them again, lol
[19:21] <harmw> please do
[19:21] <harlowja> since if they are going to do what anvil is doing, we need to make sure they have el6 packages
[19:21] <harmw> the world depends on you!
[19:21] <harlowja> otherwise anvil has to keep on doing what it does (building packages)
[19:22] <harlowja> although i don't think y! signed the RDO support stuff, so they might not care
[19:22] <harlowja> lol
[19:22] <harmw> lol
[19:22] <harlowja> u not pay us $$
[19:22] <harlowja> u no get packages, lol
[19:22] <harmw> hhe
[19:24] <harlowja> *which is ok, cause i can automatclaly already build the packages, lol
[19:24] <harlowja> but they said, u not get packages that we verified, and we like 'meh'
[19:24] <harlowja> lol
[19:25] <harlowja> * not how it went down, lol
[19:25] <harmw> :p
[19:28] <harlowja> arg, i get scared of the proposals peopel put up for openstack alot :(
[19:28] <harlowja> today was https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_cascading_solution#Architecture 
[19:28] <harlowja> ^ makes me so sad
[19:28] <harlowja> my response http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/047507.html 
[19:30] <harlowja> we should add a few more layers in there
[19:30] <harlowja> then we will get a 7 layer openstack burrito
[19:31] <JayF> the problem is
[19:31] <JayF> Ironic is a burrito bowl
[19:31] <JayF> so is vmware
[19:31] <JayF> and openstack only wants to support wraps
[19:32] <JayF> no respect for those of us intolerant of hypervisors :(
[19:36] <harlowja> lol
[19:36] <harlowja> taco bell would be so proud
[19:36] <harlowja> ha
[19:37] <harlowja> https://github.com/stackforge/tricircle/tree/master/novaproxy is interesting from a theortical perspective, but imho its not helping make openstack more reliable 
[19:37] <harlowja> thats just my 2 cents
[19:37] <harlowja> ^ the above is what that cascading thing would use to proxy from one nova to another
[19:37] <harlowja> 'Nova-Proxy acts as the same role of Nova-Compute in cascading OpenStack. Nova-Proxy treats cascaded Nova as its hypervisor, convert the internal request message from the message bus to restful API calling to cascaded Nova.'
[19:38] <harlowja> which seems sorta like ummm wrong
[19:38] <harlowja> go all the way through the nova API, quota system, database calls... to just at the final end pop out a call to another nova
[19:38] <harlowja> and the 'nova API, quota system, database calls' initially there are already sorta messed up
[19:38] <harlowja> so X levels of messed up doesn't seem like an improvement, lol
[19:39] <harlowja> *same with https://github.com/stackforge/tricircle/tree/master/cinderproxy (which does the same thing for cinder)
[19:40] <harlowja> once u hit ∞ levels all problems go away ;)
[19:41] <harlowja> *because nothing ever finishes, haha