| buntutech | good evening technicians | 01:19 |
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| === RedDeath is now known as Guest11594 | ||
| knosys | Hello | 12:47 |
| knosys | Could you please help me to know if my hardware is a good candidate for lubuntu ? :P | 12:48 |
| knosys | i have a fresh ubuntu distro, just installed nvidia drivers | 12:48 |
| knosys | and everything is good but, when running firefox + a java 2d game + irc , i cant use computer properly... even minimizing windows get's annoying | 12:49 |
| knosys | HW: intel celeron 2,7MHZ x2, FSB1333, 4gb ram ddr3, NVIDIA G210, sata hd 7200 rpm | 12:50 |
| knosys | so this makes the second ubuntu support channel where i dont get a single "Hello" :D | 14:23 |
| knosys | i love you all too | 14:23 |
| zy3pD | knosys, Hello | 14:50 |
| knosys | hi :) | 15:00 |
| Ascavasaion | The Power Manager seems to have been deprecated in 14.04. Now if I forget to plug laptop in I get no warnings, and the laptop just shirts down and whatever I am doing disappears. Please can you advise. | 16:19 |
| zy3pD | config xfce4-power-manager-settings | 16:20 |
| Ascavasaion | I found that the other day, but it tells me it is not running and whether I want to start it. I need to know how to auto start it I think. | 16:23 |
| Ascavasaion | I tried Default applications for LXSession. I see that power manager IS enabled on startup. I checked the laptop=yes option. | 16:27 |
| Ascavasaion | Maybe that works, will see when I restart again, | 16:27 |
| Ascavasaion | Thank you zy3pD | 16:43 |
| Ascavasaion | Channel is pumping. | 17:29 |
| wxl | usually is Ascavasaion. if you wish to chat, i suggest #lubuntu-offtopic. | 17:30 |
| Ascavasaion | wxl: I was just teasing. I understand why it is quiet. | 17:30 |
| === mgodzilla is now known as mgodzilla_ | ||
| === mgodzilla_ is now known as mgodzilla | ||
| onla3 | I have just connected with hdmi cable a 42" plasma tv as my 2nd monitor. I got the picture alright and got it as extended desktop. I have 2 problems though. I can't get the audio from hdmi. I don't know where to set it in lxde. 2nd problem is that this is a plasma tv, and I want to chagne the wallpaper after short intervals, but I can't get any wallpaper app to recognize the 2nd desktop so that it would work on that also or rather than the 1st monitor | 17:43 |
| zy3pD | wallch | 17:45 |
| zy3pD | =wallpaper change | 17:45 |
| onla3 | I tried that. It changed the 1st monitors picture only | 17:45 |
| zy3pD | there are many apps which could do that | 17:46 |
| onla3 | also the lxde default "desktop preferences" app doesn't work properly for me I guess, cus if I tag the "use the same wallpaper on all desktops" it won't change the same for both, independent on which monitor I right click to "desktop preferences" | 17:47 |
| zy3pD | duckduckgo is your friend | 17:47 |
| zy3pD | logoff+login tried? | 17:47 |
| ianorlin | onla3 that might be more sometihng in pcmanfm doesn't do multiple monitors on desktops really that well | 17:47 |
| onla3 | ye I tried to logoff-login and also reboot | 17:48 |
| zy3pD | ianorlin, for me it worked well | 17:48 |
| ianorlin | no I mean the desktop backgrounds sometimes can't change them | 17:48 |
| zy3pD | ok maybe | 17:48 |
| ianorlin | how do you have the monitors positioined relative to one another? | 17:48 |
| onla3 | primary monitor is the 24" on left side with 1900x1080 and on the right is secondary 1280x720 or smth | 17:49 |
| ianorlin | what happens if you swap them? | 17:49 |
| ianorlin | which one can you change then | 17:50 |
| onla3 | swap like just swap positions or primary-secondary status? | 17:50 |
| ianorlin | positions | 17:50 |
| ianorlin | swaping primary secondary might be something to try | 17:50 |
| onla3 | swapping just positions, and the backgrounds changed | 17:51 |
| onla3 | now primary has what 2nd had | 17:52 |
| onla3 | and vice versa o.O | 17:52 |
| onla3 | so the backgrounds are side by side and they stayed at their positions kind of | 17:52 |
| ianorlin | now if you try to change it with pcmafm or another program does it change which one changes | 17:52 |
| ianorlin | I think you don't want to burn the plasma tv right | 17:53 |
| onla3 | ye | 17:53 |
| onla3 | now it changes the background to which ever monitor i right click and choose to change it | 17:54 |
| onla3 | like it did before | 17:54 |
| ianorlin | you can also change it from the command line with pcmanfm if you wanted that in a cronjob | 17:55 |
| ianorlin | so you don't have to worry about changing it manually | 17:55 |
| ianorlin | it is pcmanfm -w but I don't think it allows you to choose monitor | 17:55 |
| zy3pD | ianorlin, what is the name of this term based image viewer? | 17:56 |
| zy3pD | this program can do it i think so | 17:56 |
| ianorlin | that changes wallpaper not image veiwer | 17:56 |
| ianorlin | it is part of pcmanfm I learned about from reading the man page | 17:57 |
| onla3 | pcmanfm -w changes the primary monitors desktop background | 17:58 |
| onla3 | installed wallch once again, and that also just changes the primary :< | 17:59 |
| onla3 | I tried to install nitrogen to try stretch background to both monitors, but it didn't work. Didn't bother to check log files and debug, as I would guess that I can find a working solution faster | 18:00 |
| Autoclesis | "packages fail to install --- check internet connection" :( | 18:00 |
| ianorlin | then try changing primary monitor | 18:01 |
| Autoclesis | I have Ubuntu stretched on two monitors but not Lubuntu | 18:01 |
| onla3 | can I have the panel with start menu on the secondary monitor, and when I run apps, to start the in 2nd monitor by default? | 18:01 |
| onla3 | and to not have the panel in primary, as that would help the plasma burn in | 18:02 |
| ianorlin | hmm didn't think of that | 18:03 |
| onla3 | oo this works on both monitors. just need to install the daily from launchapd for 14.04 http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/easiest-way-to-set-animated-wallpaper-on-ubuntu-desktop/ | 20:53 |
| gabry | Hi everyone, lxde power manager won't consider the power option I choose. For example: I tell it to not shut off the laptop screen nor to go in standby ever, but it does after the computer is not being used for 5 minutes. Any suggestions? | 21:04 |
| melodie | yes, pure command line in a file? | 21:05 |
| gabry | sorry? | 21:05 |
| melodie | ie: | 21:05 |
| melodie | xset dpms 0 0 0 & | 21:05 |
| melodie | in the .config/openbox/autostart file (if Lubuntu lets it work) | 21:06 |
| gabry | oh, now I get it | 21:06 |
| melodie | if not you can add it to a .xinitrc file | 21:06 |
| melodie | before the line "exec blabla" | 21:06 |
| gabry | there isn't such file | 21:06 |
| gabry | could you please point me to a guide to do so? I'm not so much good at these things | 21:07 |
| wxl | ~/.config… | 21:07 |
| macksting | Howdy. I've successfully shared files from a Lubuntu laptop, over its wireless NIC, to an XP machine with an ethernet connection to the household modem. I'm certain Samba's involved, but there's a few things I'd tried that didn't work, and so the extent to which this is functional is a bit serendipitous. How did I skin this particular cat? I'd like to reconstruct it so I can make it work with the Lubuntu install on my desktop. | 22:53 |
| wxl | macksting: let me get this straight: you've shared files with lubuntu successfully, but you want to know how to make it work? | 22:55 |
| * wxl scratches his head | 22:55 | |
| macksting | I'm also interested in this for learning's sake, and learning how to do something is not greatly helped by succeeding without knowing what you did. So yeah. | 22:55 |
| macksting | I mean, if it were the XP machine hosting, that'd be one thing... | 22:55 |
| macksting | Ah. Sorry, no, a Kubuntu install on the lappy. Lubuntu on the desktop. Wonder if this is the wrong channel. (The Kubuntu is using lxde, but...) | 22:56 |
| wxl | oh my that's scary | 22:56 |
| macksting | inoright | 22:56 |
| macksting | The security concerns alone... | 22:56 |
| wxl | samba is a pain in the butt for simple things | 22:57 |
| * macksting nods. | 22:57 | |
| wxl | i'd sooner use sshfs | 22:57 |
| wxl | but that may be asking too much out of xp :) | 22:57 |
| macksting | Is that something one should do with a shaky wireless card? | 22:57 |
| macksting | I was told otherwise. | 22:57 |
| wxl | try less pronouns pleae | 22:58 |
| macksting | Oh. I'll try. | 22:58 |
| macksting | I've been told I shouldn't try SSH with a shaky wireless NIC. It's inconsistent, and prone to stop working often. | 22:59 |
| wxl | by that notion, nothing works | 22:59 |
| wxl | and what's "shaky" with the nic? | 23:00 |
| macksting | Not sure. It just stops working often. I don't actually know how to diagnose the problem. | 23:00 |
| wxl | then if you shouldn't use ssh, you shouldn't use anyuthing | 23:00 |
| macksting | Oh. So SSH isn't actually worse for the purpose? | 23:01 |
| wxl | it's no worse than smtp or pop or imap or http or… | 23:02 |
| * macksting nods. | 23:02 | |
| wxl | looks like samba's the best way :/ | 23:02 |
| macksting | Oh. Is it? Here I was thinking of dismantling my successful but dubious sharing for safety's sake. Any clue what I did right? | 23:03 |
| wxl | configured samba. | 23:03 |
| * macksting nods. | 23:03 | |
| macksting | Well, I guess that's pretty much the answer. Situation's scary. | 23:03 |
| wxl | just install samba, read the docs, you'll be fine | 23:04 |
| wxl | copy config files from the other install as needed | 23:04 |
| wxl | that's probably where your success lies | 23:04 |
| macksting | Okay. I'd say I didn't have a lot of luck with doing so before, but it seems I DID have some luck doing it before and just couldn't tell until I got my XP install working. | 23:04 |
| macksting | Which is unnerving. | 23:04 |
| wxl | and afaik it's not well integrated into pcmanfm so don't expect too much out of the file manager (i could be wrong, but pcmanfm is pretty darn simple) | 23:04 |
| wxl | doubtful you'll break anything | 23:04 |
| wxl | worse case you simply don't get it working | 23:05 |
| wxl | keep track of what you do if you need ot undo it | 23:05 |
| macksting | Good thinking. | 23:05 |
| macksting | Part of what worries me is I don't know what I did, so I don't know what I didn't do. I don't know much, but it seems to me from a security standpoint that's worriesome. | 23:06 |
| wxl | it all lies in the config file | 23:06 |
| wxl | opening ports in and of itself is not a huge deal, especially if it's within a local network | 23:06 |
| * macksting nods. | 23:06 | |
| wxl | reading samba config files can be intense | 23:06 |
| wxl | they're not simple | 23:06 |
| macksting | Oh dear. | 23:06 |
| wxl | if you want an audit, hit up the samba guys! | 23:07 |
| macksting | Oh! Where? #samba, perhaps? | 23:07 |
| wxl | yeppers | 23:07 |
| macksting | Shveet. | 23:07 |
| macksting | Think they'd find the circumstance amusing? | 23:07 |
| wxl | doubtful | 23:07 |
| macksting | Darn. | 23:07 |
| wxl | they've had much worse | 23:07 |
| macksting | If "worse" is what amuses them, I'll have to try harder. | 23:08 |
| wxl | much | 23:08 |
| macksting | Well, I'm'a try to look at the Samba docs so I can find the configuration files so I can try to suss them out, or at least copy them. | 23:10 |
| wxl | use yours as a starting point | 23:10 |
| macksting | Yep. Figured I'd hit up the laptop, as it's pretty clearly all there and done. | 23:10 |
| wxl | don't try to understand samba, but try to learn what your config does | 23:10 |
| wxl | right | 23:10 |
| macksting | So I'll be on the other side of the room for a few, trying to suss this out for myself. If I find a question, I'm apt to come back, and/or just ask in #samba. | 23:11 |
| macksting | Thanks. | 23:11 |
| macksting | (Why is it necessary to go to the other side of the room? 'Cause the laptop battery's too old to disconnect for long, and the cord sucks.) | 23:11 |
| macksting | WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT?! | 23:12 |
| macksting | It says samba isn't installed. | 23:12 |
| macksting | The LAPTOP says that. The laptop that is hosting a folder which is accessible by XP. | 23:13 |
| wxl | macksting: run through all your services and see if you can figure out what's running | 23:13 |
| wxl | it HAS to be a daemon of some kind | 23:13 |
| wxl | might be nfs? doubtful but | 23:14 |
| macksting | Worth a look. How do I get a list of what's running at the moment? | 23:14 |
| macksting | Sorry, total n00b. | 23:14 |
| wxl | `service --status-all` | 23:14 |
| macksting | Gracias. | 23:14 |
| wxl | de nada. | 23:15 |
| macksting | Well, nfs-kernel-server shows as functioning. | 23:16 |
| macksting | Think that's the culprit? | 23:16 |
| wxl | yeah though i thought that nfs didn't work out of the box on windows | 23:16 |
| * wxl is not the windows expert | 23:16 | |
| wxl | !nfs | 23:17 |
| ubottu | nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. | 23:17 |
| * macksting nods | 23:17 | |
| wxl | yay there you go macksting ↑ | 23:17 |
| macksting | Gracias. That's a familiar URL. It's been a couple months, but I feel like this is a good place to start. | 23:17 |
| * macksting grunts. | 23:20 | |
| macksting | It appears I didn't use that particular how-to, nor the one to which it links (the tl;dr version), 'cause I don't have the directories described in either page. This could be hilarious. | 23:21 |
| === Guest11594 is now known as RedDeath | ||
| macksting | Hrm. With that in mind, I looked at the list of running services again and found smbd. Curiouser and curiouser. | 23:23 |
| macksting | Why I have smbd but not samba, I can't say. | 23:26 |
| wxl | !smb | 23:26 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html | 23:26 |
| wxl | oh you silly thing | 23:26 |
| wxl | might just be the smb protocol? | 23:27 |
| * macksting chuckles. | 23:27 | |
| macksting | Found smb.conf, too. That should help. | 23:28 |
| macksting | It really did tell me I don't have samba. Even suggested I apt-get install samba | 23:30 |
| macksting | I think I'll opt not to. | 23:30 |
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