[01:19] <buntutech> good evening technicians
[12:47] <knosys> Hello
[12:48] <knosys> Could you please help me to know if my hardware is a good candidate for lubuntu ? :P
[12:48] <knosys> i have a fresh ubuntu distro, just installed nvidia drivers
[12:49] <knosys> and everything is good but, when running firefox + a java 2d game + irc , i cant use computer properly... even minimizing windows get's annoying
[12:50] <knosys> HW: intel celeron 2,7MHZ x2, FSB1333, 4gb ram ddr3, NVIDIA G210, sata hd 7200 rpm
[14:23] <knosys> so this makes the second ubuntu support channel where i dont get a single "Hello" :D
[14:23] <knosys> i love you all too
[14:50] <zy3pD> knosys, Hello
[15:00] <knosys> hi :)
[16:19] <Ascavasaion> The Power Manager seems to have been deprecated in 14.04.  Now if I forget to plug laptop in I get no warnings, and the laptop just shirts down and whatever I am doing disappears.  Please can you advise.
[16:20] <zy3pD> config xfce4-power-manager-settings
[16:23] <Ascavasaion> I found that the other day, but it tells me it is not running and whether I want to start it.  I need to know how to auto start it I think.
[16:27] <Ascavasaion> I tried Default applications for LXSession.  I see that power manager IS enabled on startup.  I checked the laptop=yes option.
[16:27] <Ascavasaion> Maybe that works, will see when I restart again,
[16:43] <Ascavasaion> Thank you zy3pD
[17:29] <Ascavasaion> Channel is pumping.
[17:30] <wxl> usually is Ascavasaion. if you wish to chat, i suggest #lubuntu-offtopic.
[17:30] <Ascavasaion> wxl: I was just teasing.  I understand why it is quiet.
[17:43] <onla3> I have just connected with hdmi cable a 42" plasma tv as my 2nd monitor. I got the picture alright and got it as extended desktop. I have 2 problems though. I can't get the audio from hdmi. I don't know where to set it in lxde. 2nd problem is that this is a plasma tv, and I want to chagne the wallpaper after short intervals, but I can't get any wallpaper app to recognize the 2nd desktop so that it would work on that also or rather than the 1st monitor
[17:45] <zy3pD> wallch
[17:45] <zy3pD> =wallpaper change
[17:45] <onla3> I tried that. It changed the 1st monitors picture only
[17:46] <zy3pD> there are many apps which could do that
[17:47] <onla3> also the lxde default "desktop preferences" app doesn't work properly for me I guess, cus if I tag the "use the same wallpaper on all desktops" it won't change the same for both, independent on which monitor I right click to "desktop preferences"
[17:47] <zy3pD> duckduckgo is your friend
[17:47] <zy3pD> logoff+login tried?
[17:47] <ianorlin> onla3 that might be more sometihng in pcmanfm doesn't do multiple monitors on desktops really that well
[17:48] <onla3> ye I tried to logoff-login and also reboot
[17:48] <zy3pD> ianorlin, for me it worked well
[17:48] <ianorlin> no I mean the desktop backgrounds sometimes can't change them
[17:48] <zy3pD> ok maybe
[17:48] <ianorlin> how do you have the monitors positioined relative to one another?
[17:49] <onla3> primary monitor is the 24" on left side with 1900x1080 and on the right is secondary 1280x720 or smth
[17:49] <ianorlin> what happens if you swap them?
[17:50] <ianorlin> which one can you change then
[17:50] <onla3> swap like just swap positions or primary-secondary status?
[17:50] <ianorlin> positions
[17:50] <ianorlin> swaping primary secondary might be something to try
[17:51] <onla3> swapping just positions, and the backgrounds changed
[17:52] <onla3> now primary has what 2nd had
[17:52] <onla3> and vice versa o.O
[17:52] <onla3> so the backgrounds are side by side and they stayed at their positions kind of
[17:52] <ianorlin> now if you try to change it with pcmafm or another program does it change which one changes
[17:53] <ianorlin> I think you don't want to burn the plasma tv right
[17:53] <onla3> ye
[17:54] <onla3> now it changes the background to which ever monitor i right click and choose to change it
[17:54] <onla3> like it did before
[17:55] <ianorlin> you can also change it from the command line with pcmanfm if you wanted that in a cronjob
[17:55] <ianorlin> so you don't have to worry about changing it manually
[17:55] <ianorlin> it is pcmanfm -w but I don't think it allows you to choose monitor
[17:56] <zy3pD> ianorlin, what is the name of this term based image viewer?
[17:56] <zy3pD> this program can do it i think so
[17:56] <ianorlin> that changes wallpaper not image veiwer
[17:57] <ianorlin> it is part of pcmanfm I learned about from reading the man page
[17:58] <onla3> pcmanfm -w changes the primary monitors desktop background
[17:59] <onla3> installed wallch once again, and that also just changes the primary :<
[18:00] <onla3> I tried to install nitrogen to try stretch background to both monitors, but it didn't work. Didn't bother to check log files and debug, as I would guess that I can find a working solution faster
[18:00] <Autoclesis> "packages fail to install --- check internet connection" :(
[18:01] <ianorlin> then try changing primary monitor
[18:01] <Autoclesis> I have Ubuntu stretched on two monitors but not Lubuntu
[18:01] <onla3> can I have the panel with start menu on the secondary monitor, and when I run apps, to start the in 2nd monitor by default?
[18:02] <onla3> and to not have the panel in primary, as that would help the plasma burn in
[18:03] <ianorlin> hmm didn't think of that
[20:53] <onla3> oo this works on both monitors. just need to install the daily from launchapd for 14.04 http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/easiest-way-to-set-animated-wallpaper-on-ubuntu-desktop/
[21:04] <gabry> Hi everyone, lxde power manager won't consider the power option I choose. For example: I tell it to not shut off the laptop screen nor to go in standby ever, but it does after the computer is not being used for 5 minutes. Any suggestions?
[21:05] <melodie> yes, pure command line in a file?
[21:05] <gabry> sorry?
[21:05] <melodie> ie:
[21:05] <melodie> xset dpms 0 0 0 &
[21:06] <melodie> in the .config/openbox/autostart file (if Lubuntu lets it work)
[21:06] <gabry> oh, now I get it
[21:06] <melodie> if not you can add it to a .xinitrc file
[21:06] <melodie> before the line "exec blabla"
[21:06] <gabry> there isn't such file
[21:07] <gabry> could you please point me to a guide to do so? I'm not so much good at these things
[21:07] <wxl> ~/.config…
[22:53] <macksting> Howdy. I've successfully shared files from a Lubuntu laptop, over its wireless NIC, to an XP machine with an ethernet connection to the household modem. I'm certain Samba's involved, but there's a few things I'd tried that didn't work, and so the extent to which this is functional is a bit serendipitous. How did I skin this particular cat? I'd like to reconstruct it so I can make it work with the Lubuntu install on my desktop.
[22:55] <wxl> macksting: let me get this straight: you've shared files with lubuntu successfully, but you want to know how to make it work?
[22:55]  * wxl scratches his head
[22:55] <macksting> I'm also interested in this for learning's sake, and learning how to do something is not greatly helped by succeeding without knowing what you did. So yeah.
[22:55] <macksting> I mean, if it were the XP machine hosting, that'd be one thing...
[22:56] <macksting> Ah. Sorry, no, a Kubuntu install on the lappy. Lubuntu on the desktop. Wonder if this is the wrong channel. (The Kubuntu is using lxde, but...)
[22:56] <wxl> oh my that's scary
[22:56] <macksting> inoright
[22:56] <macksting> The security concerns alone...
[22:57] <wxl> samba is a pain in the butt for simple things
[22:57]  * macksting nods.
[22:57] <wxl> i'd sooner use sshfs
[22:57] <wxl> but that may be asking too much out of xp :)
[22:57] <macksting> Is that something one should do with a shaky wireless card?
[22:57] <macksting> I was told otherwise.
[22:58] <wxl> try less pronouns pleae
[22:58] <macksting> Oh. I'll try.
[22:59] <macksting> I've been told I shouldn't try SSH with a shaky wireless NIC. It's inconsistent, and prone to stop working often.
[22:59] <wxl> by that notion, nothing works
[23:00] <wxl> and what's "shaky" with the nic?
[23:00] <macksting> Not sure. It just stops working often. I don't actually know how to diagnose the problem.
[23:00] <wxl> then if you shouldn't use ssh, you shouldn't use anyuthing
[23:01] <macksting> Oh. So SSH isn't actually worse for the purpose?
[23:02] <wxl> it's no worse than smtp or pop or imap or http or…
[23:02]  * macksting nods.
[23:02] <wxl> looks like samba's the best way :/
[23:03] <macksting> Oh. Is it? Here I was thinking of dismantling my successful but dubious sharing for safety's sake. Any clue what I did right?
[23:03] <wxl> configured samba.
[23:03]  * macksting nods.
[23:03] <macksting> Well, I guess that's pretty much the answer. Situation's scary.
[23:04] <wxl> just install samba, read the docs, you'll be fine
[23:04] <wxl> copy config files from the other install as needed
[23:04] <wxl> that's probably where your success lies
[23:04] <macksting> Okay. I'd say I didn't have a lot of luck with doing so before, but it seems I DID have some luck doing it before and just couldn't tell until I got my XP install working.
[23:04] <macksting> Which is unnerving.
[23:04] <wxl> and afaik it's not well integrated into pcmanfm so don't expect too much out of the file manager (i could be wrong, but pcmanfm is pretty darn simple)
[23:04] <wxl> doubtful you'll break anything
[23:05] <wxl> worse case you simply don't get it working
[23:05] <wxl> keep track of what you do if you need ot undo it
[23:05] <macksting> Good thinking.
[23:06] <macksting> Part of what worries me is I don't know what I did, so I don't know what I didn't do. I don't know much, but it seems to me from a security standpoint that's worriesome.
[23:06] <wxl> it all lies in the config file
[23:06] <wxl> opening ports in and of itself is not a huge deal, especially if it's within a local network
[23:06]  * macksting nods.
[23:06] <wxl> reading samba config files can be intense
[23:06] <wxl> they're not simple
[23:06] <macksting> Oh dear.
[23:07] <wxl> if you want an audit, hit up the samba guys!
[23:07] <macksting> Oh! Where? #samba, perhaps?
[23:07] <wxl> yeppers
[23:07] <macksting> Shveet.
[23:07] <macksting> Think they'd find the circumstance amusing?
[23:07] <wxl> doubtful
[23:07] <macksting> Darn.
[23:07] <wxl> they've had much worse
[23:08] <macksting> If "worse" is what amuses them, I'll have to try harder.
[23:08] <wxl> much
[23:10] <macksting> Well, I'm'a try to look at the Samba docs so I can find the configuration files so I can try to suss them out, or at least copy them.
[23:10] <wxl> use yours as a starting point
[23:10] <macksting> Yep. Figured I'd hit up the laptop, as it's pretty clearly all there and done.
[23:10] <wxl> don't try to understand samba, but try to learn what your config does
[23:10] <wxl> right
[23:11] <macksting> So I'll be on the other side of the room for a few, trying to suss this out for myself. If I find a question, I'm apt to come back, and/or just ask in #samba.
[23:11] <macksting> Thanks.
[23:11] <macksting> (Why is it necessary to go to the other side of the room? 'Cause the laptop battery's too old to disconnect for long, and the cord sucks.)
[23:12] <macksting> WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT?!
[23:12] <macksting> It says samba isn't installed.
[23:13] <macksting> The LAPTOP says that. The laptop that is hosting a folder which is accessible by XP.
[23:13] <wxl> macksting: run through all your services and see if you can figure out what's running
[23:13] <wxl> it HAS to be a daemon of some kind
[23:14] <wxl> might be nfs? doubtful but
[23:14] <macksting> Worth a look. How do I get a list of what's running at the moment?
[23:14] <macksting> Sorry, total n00b.
[23:14] <wxl> `service --status-all`
[23:14] <macksting> Gracias.
[23:15] <wxl> de nada.
[23:16] <macksting> Well, nfs-kernel-server shows as functioning.
[23:16] <macksting> Think that's the culprit?
[23:16] <wxl> yeah though i thought that nfs didn't work out of the box on windows
[23:16]  * wxl is not the windows expert
[23:17] <wxl> !nfs
[23:17]  * macksting nods
[23:17] <wxl> yay there you go macksting ↑
[23:17] <macksting> Gracias. That's a familiar URL. It's been a couple months, but I feel like this is a good place to start.
[23:20]  * macksting grunts.
[23:21] <macksting> It appears I didn't use that particular how-to, nor the one to which it links (the tl;dr version), 'cause I don't have the directories described in either page. This could be hilarious.
[23:23] <macksting> Hrm. With that in mind, I looked at the list of running services again and found smbd. Curiouser and curiouser.
[23:26] <macksting> Why I have smbd but not samba, I can't say.
[23:26] <wxl> !smb
[23:26] <wxl> oh you silly thing
[23:27] <wxl> might just be the smb protocol?
[23:27]  * macksting chuckles.
[23:28] <macksting> Found smb.conf, too. That should help.
[23:30] <macksting> It really did tell me I don't have samba. Even suggested I apt-get install samba
[23:30] <macksting> I think I'll opt not to.