[01:19] good evening technicians === RedDeath is now known as Guest11594 [12:47] Hello [12:48] Could you please help me to know if my hardware is a good candidate for lubuntu ? :P [12:48] i have a fresh ubuntu distro, just installed nvidia drivers [12:49] and everything is good but, when running firefox + a java 2d game + irc , i cant use computer properly... even minimizing windows get's annoying [12:50] HW: intel celeron 2,7MHZ x2, FSB1333, 4gb ram ddr3, NVIDIA G210, sata hd 7200 rpm [14:23] so this makes the second ubuntu support channel where i dont get a single "Hello" :D [14:23] i love you all too [14:50] knosys, Hello [15:00] hi :) [16:19] The Power Manager seems to have been deprecated in 14.04. Now if I forget to plug laptop in I get no warnings, and the laptop just shirts down and whatever I am doing disappears. Please can you advise. [16:20] config xfce4-power-manager-settings [16:23] I found that the other day, but it tells me it is not running and whether I want to start it. I need to know how to auto start it I think. [16:27] I tried Default applications for LXSession. I see that power manager IS enabled on startup. I checked the laptop=yes option. [16:27] Maybe that works, will see when I restart again, [16:43] Thank you zy3pD [17:29] Channel is pumping. [17:30] usually is Ascavasaion. if you wish to chat, i suggest #lubuntu-offtopic. [17:30] wxl: I was just teasing. I understand why it is quiet. === mgodzilla is now known as mgodzilla_ === mgodzilla_ is now known as mgodzilla [17:43] I have just connected with hdmi cable a 42" plasma tv as my 2nd monitor. I got the picture alright and got it as extended desktop. I have 2 problems though. I can't get the audio from hdmi. I don't know where to set it in lxde. 2nd problem is that this is a plasma tv, and I want to chagne the wallpaper after short intervals, but I can't get any wallpaper app to recognize the 2nd desktop so that it would work on that also or rather than the 1st monitor [17:45] wallch [17:45] =wallpaper change [17:45] I tried that. It changed the 1st monitors picture only [17:46] there are many apps which could do that [17:47] also the lxde default "desktop preferences" app doesn't work properly for me I guess, cus if I tag the "use the same wallpaper on all desktops" it won't change the same for both, independent on which monitor I right click to "desktop preferences" [17:47] duckduckgo is your friend [17:47] logoff+login tried? [17:47] onla3 that might be more sometihng in pcmanfm doesn't do multiple monitors on desktops really that well [17:48] ye I tried to logoff-login and also reboot [17:48] ianorlin, for me it worked well [17:48] no I mean the desktop backgrounds sometimes can't change them [17:48] ok maybe [17:48] how do you have the monitors positioined relative to one another? [17:49] primary monitor is the 24" on left side with 1900x1080 and on the right is secondary 1280x720 or smth [17:49] what happens if you swap them? [17:50] which one can you change then [17:50] swap like just swap positions or primary-secondary status? [17:50] positions [17:50] swaping primary secondary might be something to try [17:51] swapping just positions, and the backgrounds changed [17:52] now primary has what 2nd had [17:52] and vice versa o.O [17:52] so the backgrounds are side by side and they stayed at their positions kind of [17:52] now if you try to change it with pcmafm or another program does it change which one changes [17:53] I think you don't want to burn the plasma tv right [17:53] ye [17:54] now it changes the background to which ever monitor i right click and choose to change it [17:54] like it did before [17:55] you can also change it from the command line with pcmanfm if you wanted that in a cronjob [17:55] so you don't have to worry about changing it manually [17:55] it is pcmanfm -w but I don't think it allows you to choose monitor [17:56] ianorlin, what is the name of this term based image viewer? [17:56] this program can do it i think so [17:56] that changes wallpaper not image veiwer [17:57] it is part of pcmanfm I learned about from reading the man page [17:58] pcmanfm -w changes the primary monitors desktop background [17:59] installed wallch once again, and that also just changes the primary :< [18:00] I tried to install nitrogen to try stretch background to both monitors, but it didn't work. Didn't bother to check log files and debug, as I would guess that I can find a working solution faster [18:00] "packages fail to install --- check internet connection" :( [18:01] then try changing primary monitor [18:01] I have Ubuntu stretched on two monitors but not Lubuntu [18:01] can I have the panel with start menu on the secondary monitor, and when I run apps, to start the in 2nd monitor by default? [18:02] and to not have the panel in primary, as that would help the plasma burn in [18:03] hmm didn't think of that [20:53] oo this works on both monitors. just need to install the daily from launchapd for 14.04 http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/easiest-way-to-set-animated-wallpaper-on-ubuntu-desktop/ [21:04] Hi everyone, lxde power manager won't consider the power option I choose. For example: I tell it to not shut off the laptop screen nor to go in standby ever, but it does after the computer is not being used for 5 minutes. Any suggestions? [21:05] yes, pure command line in a file? [21:05] sorry? [21:05] ie: [21:05] xset dpms 0 0 0 & [21:06] in the .config/openbox/autostart file (if Lubuntu lets it work) [21:06] oh, now I get it [21:06] if not you can add it to a .xinitrc file [21:06] before the line "exec blabla" [21:06] there isn't such file [21:07] could you please point me to a guide to do so? I'm not so much good at these things [21:07] ~/.config… [22:53] Howdy. I've successfully shared files from a Lubuntu laptop, over its wireless NIC, to an XP machine with an ethernet connection to the household modem. I'm certain Samba's involved, but there's a few things I'd tried that didn't work, and so the extent to which this is functional is a bit serendipitous. How did I skin this particular cat? I'd like to reconstruct it so I can make it work with the Lubuntu install on my desktop. [22:55] macksting: let me get this straight: you've shared files with lubuntu successfully, but you want to know how to make it work? [22:55] * wxl scratches his head [22:55] I'm also interested in this for learning's sake, and learning how to do something is not greatly helped by succeeding without knowing what you did. So yeah. [22:55] I mean, if it were the XP machine hosting, that'd be one thing... [22:56] Ah. Sorry, no, a Kubuntu install on the lappy. Lubuntu on the desktop. Wonder if this is the wrong channel. (The Kubuntu is using lxde, but...) [22:56] oh my that's scary [22:56] inoright [22:56] The security concerns alone... [22:57] samba is a pain in the butt for simple things [22:57] * macksting nods. [22:57] i'd sooner use sshfs [22:57] but that may be asking too much out of xp :) [22:57] Is that something one should do with a shaky wireless card? [22:57] I was told otherwise. [22:58] try less pronouns pleae [22:58] Oh. I'll try. [22:59] I've been told I shouldn't try SSH with a shaky wireless NIC. It's inconsistent, and prone to stop working often. [22:59] by that notion, nothing works [23:00] and what's "shaky" with the nic? [23:00] Not sure. It just stops working often. I don't actually know how to diagnose the problem. [23:00] then if you shouldn't use ssh, you shouldn't use anyuthing [23:01] Oh. So SSH isn't actually worse for the purpose? [23:02] it's no worse than smtp or pop or imap or http or… [23:02] * macksting nods. [23:02] looks like samba's the best way :/ [23:03] Oh. Is it? Here I was thinking of dismantling my successful but dubious sharing for safety's sake. Any clue what I did right? [23:03] configured samba. [23:03] * macksting nods. [23:03] Well, I guess that's pretty much the answer. Situation's scary. [23:04] just install samba, read the docs, you'll be fine [23:04] copy config files from the other install as needed [23:04] that's probably where your success lies [23:04] Okay. I'd say I didn't have a lot of luck with doing so before, but it seems I DID have some luck doing it before and just couldn't tell until I got my XP install working. [23:04] Which is unnerving. [23:04] and afaik it's not well integrated into pcmanfm so don't expect too much out of the file manager (i could be wrong, but pcmanfm is pretty darn simple) [23:04] doubtful you'll break anything [23:05] worse case you simply don't get it working [23:05] keep track of what you do if you need ot undo it [23:05] Good thinking. [23:06] Part of what worries me is I don't know what I did, so I don't know what I didn't do. I don't know much, but it seems to me from a security standpoint that's worriesome. [23:06] it all lies in the config file [23:06] opening ports in and of itself is not a huge deal, especially if it's within a local network [23:06] * macksting nods. [23:06] reading samba config files can be intense [23:06] they're not simple [23:06] Oh dear. [23:07] if you want an audit, hit up the samba guys! [23:07] Oh! Where? #samba, perhaps? [23:07] yeppers [23:07] Shveet. [23:07] Think they'd find the circumstance amusing? [23:07] doubtful [23:07] Darn. [23:07] they've had much worse [23:08] If "worse" is what amuses them, I'll have to try harder. [23:08] much [23:10] Well, I'm'a try to look at the Samba docs so I can find the configuration files so I can try to suss them out, or at least copy them. [23:10] use yours as a starting point [23:10] Yep. Figured I'd hit up the laptop, as it's pretty clearly all there and done. [23:10] don't try to understand samba, but try to learn what your config does [23:10] right [23:11] So I'll be on the other side of the room for a few, trying to suss this out for myself. If I find a question, I'm apt to come back, and/or just ask in #samba. [23:11] Thanks. [23:11] (Why is it necessary to go to the other side of the room? 'Cause the laptop battery's too old to disconnect for long, and the cord sucks.) [23:12] WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT?! [23:12] It says samba isn't installed. [23:13] The LAPTOP says that. The laptop that is hosting a folder which is accessible by XP. [23:13] macksting: run through all your services and see if you can figure out what's running [23:13] it HAS to be a daemon of some kind [23:14] might be nfs? doubtful but [23:14] Worth a look. How do I get a list of what's running at the moment? [23:14] Sorry, total n00b. [23:14] `service --status-all` [23:14] Gracias. [23:15] de nada. [23:16] Well, nfs-kernel-server shows as functioning. [23:16] Think that's the culprit? [23:16] yeah though i thought that nfs didn't work out of the box on windows [23:16] * wxl is not the windows expert [23:17] !nfs [23:17] nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. [23:17] * macksting nods [23:17] yay there you go macksting ↑ [23:17] Gracias. That's a familiar URL. It's been a couple months, but I feel like this is a good place to start. [23:20] * macksting grunts. [23:21] It appears I didn't use that particular how-to, nor the one to which it links (the tl;dr version), 'cause I don't have the directories described in either page. This could be hilarious. === Guest11594 is now known as RedDeath [23:23] Hrm. With that in mind, I looked at the list of running services again and found smbd. Curiouser and curiouser. [23:26] Why I have smbd but not samba, I can't say. [23:26] !smb [23:26] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html [23:26] oh you silly thing [23:27] might just be the smb protocol? [23:27] * macksting chuckles. [23:28] Found smb.conf, too. That should help. [23:30] It really did tell me I don't have samba. Even suggested I apt-get install samba [23:30] I think I'll opt not to.