| mrgoodcat | anybody here really familiar with sqlalchemy? | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: maybe | 00:24 |
| mrgoodcat | having trouble running out of memory | 00:26 |
| mrgoodcat | trying to put together a toy program to run some statistics on IRC logs for computer club | 00:26 |
| mrgoodcat | but the logs are pretty big | 00:26 |
| mrgoodcat | i'm running with just a small subset and still running out of memory | 00:27 |
| rick_h_ | so the irc logs are in the db? | 00:31 |
| jrwren | if the logs are in the db, then use db aggregates. | 00:43 |
| rick_h_ | yea, need more details to figure out what's up | 00:44 |
| widox | rick_h_: get your new moto x yet? | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | widox: no :( ship date of oct 13 but people are getting theirs early | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | widox: but not me yet | 00:47 |
| rick_h_ | I was hoping it come before I head out of the country this weekend but not sure now. | 00:48 |
| widox | sad | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | yea, oh well | 00:48 |
| widox | you going to at&t now? | 00:48 |
| rick_h_ | t-mobile | 00:48 |
| widox | oh | 00:49 |
| widox | I'm about to just get the verizon one | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, will keep wife and mifi on verizon but move myself to t-mobile to try it out and gain freedom | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | it's only 16mb :( | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | at least in the store | 00:49 |
| widox | on Fri they released the ability to use the motomaker thingy and get 32GB | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | and no real moto maker setup, I'm getting the teak wood and such | 00:49 |
| rick_h_ | yea, some of the verizon ones were shipping before the original order ones | 00:50 |
| widox | that's the only reason I'm getting it | 00:50 |
| widox | yeah, they have one or two pre-made ones that are only 16GB still | 00:50 |
| widox | and they are just black or bamboo | 00:50 |
| rick_h_ | yea, those don't appeal to me | 00:50 |
| widox | agreed | 00:51 |
| rick_h_ | we'll see, also eagerly awaiting the nexux 9 | 00:51 |
| rick_h_ | hopefully some news later in oct | 00:51 |
| widox | perpetual anticipation | 00:52 |
| rick_h_ | wheee | 00:52 |
| widox | :D | 00:52 |
| widox | well, I would order it. if the site was working... | 00:55 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 00:55 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it had all kinds of issues release day | 00:55 |
| mrgoodcat | morning | 12:12 |
| mrgoodcat | rick_h_: sorry to ask a question then ditch. i was in class so i probably shouldn't have been on irc anyways | 12:12 |
| rick_h_ | mrgoodcat: all good | 12:15 |
| rick_h_ | it's how irc works | 12:15 |
| mrgoodcat | i figured it out fwiw | 12:15 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 12:15 |
| mrgoodcat | https://github.com/jonathanslenders/python-prompt-toolkit | 12:18 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/RF6bMp - jonathanslenders/python-prompt-toolkit · GitHub | 12:18 |
| mrgoodcat | python repl with syntax hilighting and multi-line editing | 12:18 |
| wolfger | God I love regex. That is all. | 12:54 |
| jrwren | greg-g: how is the new boss? | 13:10 |
| jrwren | wolfger: if you love regex, you'll love LL parers. | 13:11 |
| wolfger | Hmm. Maybe. | 13:21 |
| wolfger | btw: if anybody here is wanting an Ello invite, toss me your e-mail. | 13:49 |
| rick_h_ | how about an ello nuke bomb death explosion of doom? | 13:50 |
| brousch_ | what is ello? | 13:50 |
| rick_h_ | run now! | 13:50 |
| brousch_ | Is it like Yo, but longer? | 13:50 |
| jrwren | ad free social network: https://ello.co | 13:51 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/UZQ6zs - Ello | 13:51 |
| jrwren | although, they already are evil says someone: https://aralbalkan.com/notes/ello-goodbye/ | 13:52 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/dskhL5 - Aral Balkan â Ello, goodbye. | 13:52 |
| wolfger | rick_h_: if you want a nuke bomb death explosion of doom, I'm sure the NSA is now watching you and ready to deliver. :-) | 13:52 |
| wolfger | Yeah, ever new thing will always have somebody ready to call it evil. | 13:54 |
| wolfger | Wow. So, taking money from venture capitalists == evil? | 13:59 |
| jrwren | wolfger: well, I used the evil word. That is my hyperbole. | 14:00 |
| brousch_ | they sold out, man! | 14:00 |
| jrwren | but yes, that article is suggesting that by taking VC and offering a free service you are compromising something about your users, becuase they aren't customers. | 14:00 |
| jrwren | Its a fair argument. | 14:01 |
| brousch_ | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ello-is-already-infested-with-spammers-and-bots | 14:01 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/oO5F1W - Ello Is Already Infested With Spammers and Bots | Motherboard | 14:01 |
| jrwren | Investors want returns. If you aren't charging $ for something, how will you get returns? | 14:01 |
| wolfger | They have already stated their business plan is to sell features. So they are planning to turn their investors a profit without selling their users out. Five minutes of research would have told him that. | 14:02 |
| wolfger | and yeah, the spambots are as bad as they were on Twitter. They need to do something about that. | 14:02 |
| jrwren | wolfger: :( internet and stuff. | 14:02 |
| jrwren | I have keybase.io invites if anyone wants. | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 14:03 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, I have zero interest in Ello | 14:04 |
| cmaloney | I think App.net sapped any curiousity from me. | 14:04 |
| mrgoodcat | jrwren: do you use keybase? | 14:20 |
| mrgoodcat | as in actually use, not just have an account | 14:20 |
| aisrael | jrwren: looks interesting. I'd take an invite if you still have one | 14:21 |
| mrgoodcat | wolfger: ello doesn't work so great with chrome | 14:31 |
| mrgoodcat | i don't see any posts in friends or noise... am i doing something wrong? | 14:33 |
| wolfger | Hmm. None at all? That's odd. I use Chrome too. | 14:43 |
| wolfger | although I think maybe they are having some problems today. A post I made earlier seems to have disappeared. | 14:43 |
| mrgoodcat | ok | 14:44 |
| mrgoodcat | maybe load issues | 14:44 |
| mrgoodcat | i'll give them some time to figure it out | 14:44 |
| mrgoodcat | i tried in chrome and firefox | 14:44 |
| wolfger | just @'d you | 14:44 |
| wolfger | it's definitely not a finished product yet | 14:45 |
| mrgoodcat | yup. not seeing your post | 14:46 |
| mrgoodcat | on my profile or friends stream | 14:46 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: no, not really. | 14:59 |
| mrgoodcat | jrwren: same here. i made an account, but i almost never feel the need to encrypt a message | 15:04 |
| mrgoodcat | and since none of my friends use keybase or even know what pgp/gpg is, it would be useless to encrypt anyways | 15:05 |
| jrwren | aisrael: i only have your @canonical, is that oK? | 15:05 |
| jrwren | mrgoodcat: part of the point is it can make things easier for those friends. | 15:05 |
| mrgoodcat | no i get it. but nobody is going to install something just to read a message i sent them | 15:06 |
| mrgoodcat | especially if it takes more than one click | 15:06 |
| aisrael | jrwren: adam@adamisrael.com would be good | 15:09 |
| aisrael | but not a problem either way | 15:09 |
| wolfger | mrgoodcat: looks like they got it fixed. My missing post re-appeared, as did your posts | 15:14 |
| greg-g | jrwren: haven't met him yet :) | 15:16 |
| cmaloney | her | 15:33 |
| greg-g | eh? | 15:33 |
| cmaloney | I did a Google search for Wikimedia new boss | 15:34 |
| greg-g | Lila (ED) started a while ago (4ish months?) and I've met her/had meetins with her. | 15:34 |
| greg-g | VP of Engineering was announced yesterday | 15:34 |
| cmaloney | Ah, n/m | 15:34 |
| greg-g | https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/09/29/damon-sicore-joins-wmf-as-vice-president-of-engineering/ | 15:34 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/ui8oGZ - Damon Sicore joins WMF as Vice President of Engineering « Wikimedia blog | 15:34 |
| greg-g | aka, my boss's boss | 15:34 |
| cmaloney | sunglasses and a sweater. You're doomed. :) | 15:35 |
| greg-g | The Dude | 15:35 |
| greg-g | he, SF beaches are cold yet sunny, it makes sense ;) | 15:36 |
| greg-g | hey* | 15:36 |
| * greg-g grumbles about SF beaches | 15:36 | |
| brousch_ | Hm, why are they cold if you are so far south? | 15:52 |
| greg-g | brousch_: we aren't | 15:52 |
| brousch_ | not as far south as i thought | 15:52 |
| greg-g | brousch_: you'd be one of the many tourists who packs wrong when the visit SF and end up buying a $30 "I <3 SF" sweatshirt ;) | 15:53 |
| brousch_ | 55F is shorts weather | 15:53 |
| wolfger | +1 | 15:53 |
| brousch_ | You have to remember I grew up swimming in Lake MI | 15:54 |
| greg-g | sure, until the sea breeze comes in | 15:54 |
| greg-g | sure, that might be true | 15:54 |
| greg-g | but the majority of tourists think "SF" == "warm" | 15:54 |
| greg-g | they're wrong :) | 15:54 |
| greg-g | especially at 5pm where the temp drops 15 degrees in 10 minutes and the fog rolls in. Bam, out by the beach 45 minutes from your car/hotel without a jacket? you're fucked. | 15:55 |
| greg-g | that's why everyone wears hoodies/light jackets all the time, every day requires them, just not all day. | 15:55 |
| brousch_ | heh | 15:56 |
| cmaloney | Is it too early for heavy drinking? | 16:03 |
| wolfger | cmaloney: it's never too early for heavy drinking, but it is situationally inadvisable if you are at work, or about to drive, or ... | 16:08 |
| cmaloney | I'm at work at the moment. Situationally advisable is relative. :) | 16:08 |
| wolfger | greg-g: mmm.... San Francisco.... http://sfcraftbeerfest.com/tix | 16:14 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/CCeDYq - TICKETS - SF Craft Beer Fest | 16:14 |
| wolfger | one of the things I love about work-from-home days is I can start drinking whenever. :-) But not heavily. | 16:15 |
| jrwren | hence the zuckerburg zip up hoodie? | 16:41 |
| greg-g | jrwren: /me is wearing one right now :) | 16:43 |
| cmaloney | greg-g - gangsta | 16:45 |
| greg-g | damn it feels good | 16:45 |
| wolfger | :-D | 16:46 |
| wolfger | Hide your printers. greg-g has a baseball bat. | 16:46 |
| brousch_ | A real gangsta-ass wikier makes his edits right | 16:48 |
| greg-g | haha | 16:48 |
| jrwren | greg-g: i'm wearing one right now too :) | 16:49 |
| * cmaloney is not hip enough for hoodies | 16:51 | |
| cmaloney | I prefer my sweaters to be 100% acrylic. | 16:51 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: really? | 16:52 |
| jrwren | i prefer cashmire. | 16:53 |
| greg-g | wool or gtfo | 16:54 |
| jrwren | cashmire > wool. | 16:55 |
| greg-g | baaah | 16:55 |
| greg-g | (get it?) | 16:55 |
| jrwren | hehehe. | 16:55 |
| greg-g | :) | 16:55 |
| jrwren | cashmere is wool++ :) | 16:55 |
| greg-g | yeah, I'm just also cheap and want something I'm ok getting a hole in it | 16:56 |
| jrwren | ah, truth. | 16:56 |
| brousch_ | cashmere hoodie? | 16:56 |
| jrwren | brousch_: that would be SWEET | 16:56 |
| jrwren | brousch_: now I really want one. | 16:57 |
| cmaloney | Apparently there are three things you don't talk about: politics, religion, and fiber-content of sweaters. :) | 16:57 |
| jrwren | Marino is an acceptable substitute when cashmere isn't available. | 16:58 |
| brousch_ | Dan? | 16:58 |
| jrwren | you can keep that angora :p | 16:58 |
| jrwren | oddly, I think wool hoodies are a common fasion item in womens fasion. I don't know if I've ever seen one in mens. | 17:00 |
| greg-g | sexism sucks | 17:00 |
| jrwren | yes, what is that quote from UN floor last week? | 17:02 |
| greg-g | dunno | 17:03 |
| cmaloney | "Men and women should all know the joys of pink angora sweaters"? | 17:04 |
| jrwren | i'm thinking of Emma Watson's #heforshe speech. Something about men suffering at the hands of male stereotypes. | 17:04 |
| cmaloney | Or was that Ed Wood. | 17:04 |
| jrwren | I WANT A CABLE KNIT CASHMERE HOODIE!!! SEXISM!!! | 17:04 |
| jrwren | i found the quote. | 17:05 |
| jrwren | "We don’t often talk about men being imprisoned by gender stereotypes, but I can see that they are" | 17:05 |
| jrwren | they can't wear ping angora cable knit hoodies! | 17:05 |
| brousch_ | I love how Mozilla keeps fighting the open fight https://gigaom.com/2014/06/20/this-firefox-os-powered-streaming-stick-is-mozillas-answer-to-chromecast-exclusive-video/ | 17:09 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/kcm0Os - This Firefox OS-powered streaming stick is Mozilla’s answer to Chromecast (exclusive video) — Tech News and Analysis | 17:09 |
| cmaloney | http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/09/30/ebay-to-spin-off-paypal-adopting-strategy-backed-by-icahn | 17:12 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/rYMSOH - EBay to Spin Off PayPal, Adopting Icahn's Strategy - NYTimes.com | 17:12 |
| cmaloney | Now eBay can finally die in peace. | 17:13 |
| jrwren | I love it too! Yay Mozilla! | 17:13 |
| brousch_ | I feel bad for using nothing from Mozilla any more | 17:13 |
| jrwren | you should feel terrible. I know I do. | 17:14 |
| brousch_ | I looked at firefox OS, but it seems so primitive | 17:15 |
| mrgoodcat | and the firefox browser is really not fun to develop for at all | 17:15 |
| jrwren | its not? | 17:19 |
| jrwren | is it divergent that much from chrome? | 17:19 |
| rick_h_ | no, it's a pita to work on extensions and such vs chrome | 17:19 |
| greg-g | I heard the Fx dev tools are leap frogging Chrome again | 17:19 |
| jrwren | oh! extensions. | 17:19 |
| cmaloney | http://www.slashgear.com/why-pebble-just-added-fitness-tracking-and-what-comes-next-30348436/ | 17:23 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/NsQvZm - Why Pebble just added fitness tracking, and what comes next - SlashGear | 17:23 |
| cmaloney | Apparently Pebble is getting background tasks with the latest update. | 17:23 |
| brousch_ | But they still use C for development | 17:25 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: Explain to me why that's a problem? :) | 17:25 |
| brousch_ | Because I don't like C | 17:26 |
| widox | ff is moving their extension dev stuff away from the current Python build tool to a node/npm approach - which I guess is supposed to make for a better dev experience | 17:26 |
| widox | https://github.com/mozilla/jpm | 17:27 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/AmMrWI - mozilla/jpm · GitHub | 17:27 |
| brousch_ | Just goes to show that anything that can be written in Javascript will be | 17:28 |
| jrwren | I love C. | 17:29 |
| _stink_ | i just wish ff would settle on *anything* for extension dev, stick with it, and update their damn docs. | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:31 |
| wolfger | Yeah, Emma Watson delivered an awesome speech. But if I say, "yeah! sexism is keeping me from wearing a skirt!" it's just going to make people think that maybe sexism is a good thing after all... | 17:32 |
| brousch_ | wolfger: Don't you wear kilts? | 17:33 |
| wolfger | Only at SCA events, where people don't think it's odd. | 17:34 |
| wolfger | also, wool kilts are too hot for casual wear. I want something lighter and less itchy. | 17:34 |
| jrwren | wolfger: sexism never kept me from wearing a skirt :p | 17:35 |
| wolfger | jrwren: I didn't realize you wore skirts | 17:35 |
| jrwren | wolfger: i haven't in years. Ever since that dude kicked my ass for wearing one. | 17:36 |
| jrwren | lol, I wish I were joking. | 17:36 |
| greg-g | Did ya'll ever see me with my long hair? When it went down past by shoulders? | 17:37 |
| greg-g | I also at one point didn't have a beard. And ran/exercised a lot. | 17:37 |
| greg-g | I pulled off awesome drag :) | 17:37 |
| jrwren | greg-g: ha! nice. | 17:38 |
| jrwren | greg-g: I don't think I ever knew you then. I saw a pic once. | 17:39 |
| wolfger | jrwren: I would posit that if you haven't worn one since you got your butt kicked for wearing one, then sexism is most certainly stopping you. | 17:39 |
| wolfger | greg-g: I don't think I've ever seen you without a beard. I'm not sure I can imagine it. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:40 |
| jrwren | wolfger: twas a long time ago. | 17:40 |
| greg-g | I don't think I have any digital photos of me in drag, but there's some on FB of me with long hair | 17:40 |
| wolfger | you can see a pic of me in a skirt on fb... no drag, either. I was dressed as Hotei for halloween (otherwise known as "fat buddha") | 17:41 |
| greg-g | oh right, that photo, I almost successfully forgot it ;) | 17:41 |
| wolfger | I naired all my hair off | 17:42 |
| wolfger | that was a freaky feeling | 17:42 |
| jrwren | someone recently posted a photo of me on FB in full drag from 19yrs ago | 17:42 |
| greg-g | nice | 17:42 |
| wolfger | when you're a hairy dude and suddenly have no hair, everything tingles. | 17:42 |
| wolfger | greg-g: glad I reminded you then :-D | 17:43 |
| greg-g | wolfger: you're making it worse now | 17:43 |
| greg-g | "everything tingles" | 17:43 |
| wolfger | good | 17:43 |
| greg-g | :P | 17:43 |
| * _stink_ tries to erase last two minutes from his brain | 17:44 | |
| * brousch_ realizes he has wolfger on FB. Tries not to look | 17:45 | |
| wolfger | brousch_: you know you can't resist | 17:46 |
| _stink_ | it's like the call of the void | 17:46 |
| brousch_ | DOS on chromebook https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dosbox-for-google-chrome/jhceknlmaggijlkkcemdaghpniimajhd?hl=en-US | 17:57 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/kNejBi - DOSBox for Google Chrome™ - Chrome Web Store | 17:57 |
| cmaloney | brousch_: That's awesome | 17:57 |
| brousch_ | I thought you might have some "use" for it | 17:58 |
| cmaloney | Probably not. | 18:05 |
| cmaloney | But installed it for grins | 18:08 |
| jrwren | does the VGA work? can I play old Sierra games in it? | 18:15 |
| cmaloney | Dosbox? It's basically the foundation of 60% of the gog games site. | 18:23 |
| cmaloney | http://www.gog.com/ | 18:23 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/3akW - GOG.com | 18:23 |
| cmaloney | http://www.gog.com/games##search=sierra&sort=bestselling&page=1 | 18:24 |
| bookiebot | http://goo.gl/Mlmshh - Games ● GOG.com | 18:24 |
| cmaloney | Though not sure if they'll run under Chrome. | 18:24 |
| cmaloney | I had some difficulty getting Theme Hospital running | 18:25 |
| cmaloney | .np squeekyhoho | 19:01 |
| bookiebot | squeekyhoho's current track - Bearing The Serpents Lamb by Job for a Cowboy on Genesis | 19:01 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!