[05:42] <Noskcaj> been away the last few days, did i miss anything?
[09:34] <knome> Noskcaj, looking at the lastlong, not much
[10:00] <brainwash> Noskcaj: the Xfce4 package recommends desktop-base which installs some debian related wallpapers and customizations. could this dependency be lowered to Suggests in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Probably. Maybe check kde and gnome's metapackages too
[10:01] <brainwash> there is one unresolved report bug 1080865
[10:02] <brainwash> not sure how these meta packages are named :)
[10:02] <brainwash> looks like gnome is just gnome
[10:03] <brainwash> gnome does depend on desktop-base
[10:05] <brainwash> I'll ignore this problem then, better not break anything
[10:12] <knome> it sounds interesting
[10:12] <knome> what in desktop-base do we need?
[10:14] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Please file a bug about it
[10:14] <brainwash> well, we don't really anything debian related
[10:15] <brainwash> it's the xfce4 meta package which recommends it, and we somewhat care about the default xfce4 session/installation, or? :)
[10:16] <brainwash> Noskcaj: a new report? what about the existing one?
[10:17] <Noskcaj> Didn't see your link, just use the old one. Try and push for a fix
[10:17] <brainwash> bug 1080865
[10:17] <brainwash> ... bot ...
[10:17] <brainwash> why u so slow?
[10:18] <brainwash> Noskcaj: ok, I'll try to ask the ubuntu devs too
[11:32] <elfy> let's see if vm's boot to todays daily 
[11:39] <elfy> that'll be no then
[14:03] <elfy> so I have a new not starting bug apparently
[14:12] <elfy> bug 1375805 if anyone can confirm that 
[14:15] <elfy> sudo grep SEGV /var/log/syslog echoing nothing at tty1 before starting lightdm
[14:19] <elfy> hi slickymaster 
[14:19] <elfy> work
[14:19] <elfy> :)
[15:53] <elfy> seem to have a fix at least
[15:58] <brainwash> elfy: did you or anyone else talk to the ubuntu devs about the ubiquity black screen bug?
[15:58] <brainwash> ehm, black background
[15:58] <brainwash> luckily not a black screen :)
[16:02] <elfy> I've not done so no
[16:02] <elfy> not sure if anyone has - I've been tied up in getting an install to boot at all
[16:04] <brainwash> but that's still the vm only problem, right?
[16:04] <elfy> yep
[16:06] <brainwash> I guess that we should get some logs, "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" should collect some
[16:08] <brainwash> elfy: do you also test on normal hardware?
[16:09] <elfy> at milestones I do 
[16:10] <brainwash> ok then, I'll just download the daily and see if I can get some logs
[16:11] <brainwash> can't be that hard to fix the black background
[16:14] <elfy> just booting today's on hardware
[16:14] <elfy> not sure I saw it when I did the beta test on hardware tbh
[16:15] <brainwash> run ubuntu-bug and mark it as duplicate of the existing bug
[16:16] <brainwash> or would apport-collect work too? it's not your report
[16:16] <elfy> mmmm
[16:16] <elfy> so usb just goes straight to desktop - no choice - using the ubuntu usb tool
[16:16] <elfy> oh nvm - got black background now
[16:17] <brainwash> in the actual live session?
[16:17] <elfy> no - prior to that - wasn't really watching it properly :)
[16:17] <brainwash> ah :D
[16:24] <elfy> brainwash: just reporting it again but to ubiquity - any logs you think would be useful to attach
[16:27] <elfy> bug 1375893
[16:44] <elfy> bug 1284910 was the one we had last time where we had the debian background at that point iirc
[16:45] <elfy> that's the one that xnox got involved with - and I'm positive I remember that going on
[16:48] <brainwash> elfy: thanks, now we got something to work with
[16:59] <elfy> ready steady go :p
[18:52] <Unit193> Anyone know Spanish and docbook?
[18:52] <Unit193> es/settings-preferences.xml:373 is all tangled up.
[18:54] <pleia2> I think that's what GridCube is for <3
[19:02] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/~unit193/xubuntu-docs/utopic/+merge/236589 that fixes the easy one.
[19:14] <GridCube> i pinged the translator team a week ago but got no response
[19:14] <GridCube> i will try to get them again
[19:15] <Unit193> I'm actually referring to a bad translation, broke the docbook structure.
[19:17] <GridCube> bbl
[19:17] <GridCube> oh
[19:18] <GridCube> :/ my friends might got thta messed up
[19:25] <Unit193> line 973 in es.po: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/utopic/+pots/desktop-guide/es/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Temas+GTK
[19:53] <Unit193> New xfce4-screenshooter in Debian only closes Debian #763387.
[23:36] <bluesabre> good evening folks
[23:43] <skellat> Good evening
[23:57] <bluesabre> Hey skellat