[03:14] <vik_> wi fi manager does not appear 14 version
[03:16] <holstein> vik_: i would try starting it manually.. nm-applet
[05:46] <xubuntu03w> hi
[07:32] <adesst1> knome: thanks
[07:58] <garandil> QUick one, is Xubuntu vulnerable towards "shellshock" ?
[07:59] <garandil> 14.04
[08:06] <dkessel> garandil: not if you install all updates
[13:34] <SuperTechNews> Ciao
[13:34] <SuperTechNews> C'è qualcuno?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !it | superkuh
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !it | supertechnews
[14:21] <Aurvandill> hi
[14:25] <GridCube> !hi | Aurvandill
[14:41] <max12345> help I hit some button now the desktop moves below my mouse :(
[14:43] <max12345> found it
[14:43] <max12345> it's the zoom
[14:56] <xubi> ubuntu it????
[15:18] <kblin> oh, seriously? my touchpad's dead again
[15:18] <kblin> I wonder why this keeps happening
[15:19] <kblin> it works just fine in the lock screen
[15:23] <knosys> Hi Xubi :)
[15:25] <knosys> nice distro... just what i was looking for.. Ligher than unity , higher than xfce
[15:25] <knosys> Lighter*
[15:35] <holstein> knosys: shouldnt be "higher" than xfce.. xubuntu is using xfce..
[15:44] <knosys> sorry i mean lxde XD faill
[15:46] <holstein> no worries.. glad you are enjoying it
[15:46] <knosys> im downloading still
[15:46] <knosys> i installed ubuntu but i think its much for my pc
[15:47] <knosys> but im overviewing it and looks great
[16:02] <knosys> ok burned. Im going to install right away. See you later!
[16:14] <Aurvandill> knosys why are you not installing the xubuntu desktop in ubuntu and remove unity afterwards?
[16:39] <brent2> anyone know how to make notify-send work with crontab?
[16:40] <brent2> it seemed to work earlier but has stopped and I'm not sure why
[16:57] <brainwash> brent2: do you pass the env var DISPLAY?
[16:57] <brainwash> like "DISPLAY=:0 notify-send ..."
[16:57] <brent2> I tried that to no avail
[17:00] <brainwash> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/111188/using-notify-send-with-cron
[17:00] <brainwash> did you try that?
[17:01] <brainwash> 1st google search result
[17:12] <brent2> brainwash: I found that result too, but I figured I'd ask here before trying it out, since, like I said, it seemed to work earlier with no issue but stopped working after I rebooted
[17:12] <brent2> going to give it a whirl
[17:30] <brent2> brainwash: is your user's .dbus dir owned by root?
[17:31] <brainwash> brent2: no
[17:31] <brent2> weird.. that must be what changed
[17:32] <brainwash> did you mess around with sudo? :)
[17:32] <brent2> I did indeed, but not recently
[17:32] <brent2> added Defaults rootpw
[17:32] <brent2> could that have done it?
[17:32] <brent2> lol
[17:34] <garrie> Hello.
[17:34] <garrie> I have a problem.
[17:35] <garrie> I installed using LVM encryption. When I boot up, my encryption passphrase screen is BLANK. I can still enter my encryption key, etc, but I'd rather have a prompt of some sort. Why is it blank and how do I fix it?
[17:36] <brent2> http://i.imgur.com/2wRuIn4.png
[17:36] <brent2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/966450
[17:36] <brent2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/966403
[17:37] <brent2> last link looks to be the most useful of the bunch
[17:37] <brent2> garrie: ^
[17:37] <garrie> brent2, Thanks.
[17:37] <garrie> brent2, I already have the correct NVidia driver for my graphics card installed, I believe.
[17:38] <brent2> garrie: http://i.imgur.com/MptAwZ3.png
[17:38] <garrie> brent2, what is the effect of option number 2 in that post?
[17:39] <brent2> which?
[17:39] <brent2> oh
[17:39] <garrie> Editing the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file with "plymouth:force-drm"
[17:39] <brent2> it just appends whatever graphics mode that is so that it's utilized during boot
[17:40] <brent2> to the single grub boot entry
[17:40] <brent2> you can probably do that by default in grub defaults if it turns out that it works for you
[17:40] <brent2> so you don't have to do it every time
[17:40] <brent2> but basically that's one thing I'd try
[17:40] <brent2> to see if it works
[17:40] <brent2> supposedly worked for at least one other person
[17:41] <garrie>  grub.cfg seems like quite a complicated file.
[17:41] <garrie> I'm not sure exactly where to put "plymouth:force-drm"
[17:42] <brent2> it contains all of your boot entries
[17:42] <brent2> let me check mine
[17:42] <brent2> so when you first boot your pc you see the grub bootloader with different entries
[17:42] <brent2> mine is something like Ubuntu (3.12), Memtest86, Safe mode, etc
[17:42] <brent2> those entries are what you see in grub.cfg
[17:43] <garrie> Mmm, not usually, no. I only see that when my pc powers off without being shutdown.
[17:43] <garrie> In usually sequence of events, I turn my computer on, I see my pc's splash screen (ASUS)
[17:43] <garrie> then it goes black, which is where I enter my encryption key
[17:43] <garrie> Then it goes to the xubuntu login window.
[17:44] <brent2> hmm
[17:44] <brent2> maybe you're using efi boot or whatever it's called
[17:44] <brent2> which I know nothing about
[17:44] <knosys> re
[17:44] <brent2> but still, try editing the grub file
[17:44] <garrie> I disabled secure boot in my bios
[17:45] <brent2> garrie: http://i.imgur.com/xaokxTs.png
[17:45] <garrie> Okay, if I pastebin the contents of my grub file, could you pastebin the edited version?
[17:46] <brent2> sure I can try
[17:46] <garrie> http://pastebin.com/kCeU6uSP
[17:48] <brent2> ok garrie keep that pastebin somewhere just in case your system breaks and you have to fix this from a livecd
[17:49] <brent2> lol
[17:49] <garrie> ofc
[17:49] <brent2> garrie: http://pastebin.com/qzWP0Sb6
[17:50] <garrie> Okay thanks.
[17:50] <brent2> garrie: if this works for you then there are more steps involved to make it permanent
[17:50] <brent2> so let me know
[17:50] <garrie> Oh really?
[17:51] <brent2> yeah, reboot to check it and if it works I can guide you through it
[17:51] <garrie> Okay no problem.
[17:51] <garrie> Back in 5.
[17:52] <brainwash> "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"
[17:52] <brainwash> :>
[17:52] <garrie> =\
[17:53] <brent2> lol
[17:53] <brent2> that's why I said there's more to it
[17:54] <brent2> any luck garrie ?
[17:54] <garrie> Just restarting now.
[17:54] <garrie> 2 secs
[17:54] <brent2> kk
[17:55] <brent2> brainwash: the problem was that .dbus was owned by root
[17:55] <brent2> didn't have to do anything to fix it other than fix that
[17:55] <brent2> and .gvfs
[17:55] <brainwash> makes sense
[17:55] <brent2> not sure how tha thappened
[17:56] <brainwash> you have triggered it at some point, surely with sudo
[17:56] <brent2> impossible, as a user I never make errors or affect the system negatively
[17:56] <brent2> ッ
[17:56] <brainwash> hah
[17:57] <garrie> brent2, no difference. Still blank screen instead of encryption passphrase screen.
[17:57] <brent2> darn
[17:58] <garrie> Indeed.
[17:58] <garrie> I had the same trouble on Linux Mint last week.
[17:58] <brent2> hmm
[17:58] <brent2> no clue then truthfully
[17:59] <brent2> you can restore the old file by running sudo update-grub2
[17:59] <brent2> "it's not a bug, it's a feature"
[18:00] <brent2> garrie: you can try the mainline kernel but I wouldn't
[18:00] <brent2> it'll be more of a hassle than not having a prompt
[19:04] <garrie> brent2, sorry, was away there!"
[19:04] <garrie> brent2, yeah... in this case it is a bit of a feature for additional security I guess.
[19:04] <brent2> LOL
[19:04] <brent2> woops caps
[19:04] <garrie> brent2, Just a bit of a pain not knowing precisely when the system is ready for the input or not.
[19:05] <brent2> yeah I agree
[19:05] <brent2> if you don't see the grub bootloader then that throws an additional monkeywrench into the mix, maybe your system boots magically without respect to the grub list entries or something
[19:05] <garrie> garrie, I had the same issue on linux mint XFCE edition last week, and I solved it by running update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[19:06] <garrie> This gave me the option of choosing a text only prompt instead of a graphical prompt (I think it's the graphical prompt which is giving issues).
[19:06] <garrie> But when I run it on xubuntu it says :
[19:06] <garrie> There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-logo/xubuntu-logo.plymouth
[19:06] <garrie> Nothing to configure.
[19:19] <garrie> :(
[19:19] <garrie> Such an annoying issue.
[19:19] <garrie> brent2, okay, I have another one for you.
[19:19] <garrie> brent2, I'm using a UK layout wireless keyboard.
[19:20] <garrie> brent2, However, during login (when entering my encryption key, and when entering my login password), the keyboard reverts to US layout.
[19:20] <garrie> brent2, again, you could consider this an additional layer of security, because even if somebody uses my keyboard, they're never entirely sure what keyboard layout to adhere to.
[19:20] <garrie> brent2, but I'd rather my keyboard was just ALWAYS in UK layout.
[19:20] <brent2> lol
[19:21] <garrie> Any ideas?>
[19:21] <brent2> hmm
[19:22] <brent2> garrie: what's the output of:
[19:22] <brent2> localectl status
[19:22] <brent2> ?
[19:22] <garrie>    System Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[19:22] <garrie>                   LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[19:22] <garrie>        VC Keymap: n/a
[19:22] <garrie>       X11 Layout: gb
[19:22] <garrie>        X11 Model: pc105
[19:23] <garrie> The keyboard goes to UK mode as SOON as I log in, without me having to make any changes.
[19:23] <garrie> But during boot up, encryption, login, etc, it's always in US mode.
[19:23] <garrie> Even when I lock my screen after logging in, it's back to US mode until I log in.
[19:24] <brent2> hmm
[19:24] <brent2> maybe this would work: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Keyboard_configuration_in_console#Persistent_configuration
[19:24] <brent2> otherwise I don't know
[19:24] <brent2> i've never run into this issue because i use the US layout
[19:25] <elfy> I ran into similar when we were still testing trusty and had ibus - made entering a password impossible unless you knew US keyboard layout
[19:26] <brent2> death to ibus
[19:38] <ronin> thank you for the 14.04, I love it
[19:51] <zx81> how can i find the version of xubuntu I am running ?
[19:52] <Unit193> lsb_release -r
[19:52] <bazhang> !version
[19:54] <zx81> Thanks. Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[19:54] <zx81> Release:	12.04
[19:54] <zx81> Codename:	precise
[19:55] <zx81> my machine is old so can't upgrade
[20:26] <genii> I wonder if they were actually using a Timex-Sinclair ZX81