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soeegood morning06:20
jussihi soee06:28
lordievaderGood morning.06:29
apacheloggervalorie: it's unsupported because no dev ever done it07:21
apacheloggerwe just pretend like it should work07:21
apacheloggeryou know, the way we deal with bug reports as well07:21
apachelogger:S07:21
valoriewhich is why I tried it!07:21
valorieand wrote to the list about it07:21
valoriejust about to work on that laptop again07:22
apacheloggerwhich I greatly appreciate until devs start doing exactly that thing on a semi-regular basis it won't work though07:22
valoriemaybe I should hit amazon and order some more usb keys07:22
valoriesorry it took me so long07:22
valoriewoah, you can get a 1 GB for 71 cents07:24
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valorieweeeeeee, logging in from plasma5 konvi10:06
valoriethis is awesomely cool10:06
soeekonvi ?10:28
BluesKajHiyas all10:39
tsdgeosvalorie: naming!10:50
tsdgeosKF5 konvi10:50
tsdgeosnot Plasma5 konvi10:50
Riddellvalorie: I'm a bit confused by your install report, is everything fixed? do you know what caused the problems?10:57
RiddellPali: did you see my testing report of yesterday?10:57
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Riddellhmm, anyone a git equivalent of bzr-buildpackage ?12:11
* Riddell finds https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit12:16
SourBlueHei guys, do you know where I can get an example config for a apt repository (maybe an official kubuntu/ubuntu repo)12:39
RiddellSourBlue: I'm not sure what you mean12:40
Riddellconfiguring what?12:41
SourBluehttp://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=mirrorer/reprepro.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/short-howto;hb=HEAD12:41
Riddellwell that seems to describe settings up an apt repository if that's what you want to do12:42
Riddellwe don't tend to have a need to do that as we juse use launchpad PPAs12:42
SourBlueI need one for work12:43
yofelSourBlue: see https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository#reprepro_for_new_packages for a howto12:47
RiddellI think I've used mini-dinstall when I've done it before12:47
lordievaderSourBlue: This one [1] is also usefull, prevents the authentication errors. https://wiki.debian.org/SettingUpSignedAptRepositoryWithReprepro12:48
SourBlueThat looks promising thank you!12:49
SourBluedid someone find a solution for the sddm problem?12:49
PaliRiddell: https://launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-backports/+sourcepub/4449433/+listing-archive-extra12:55
PaliI added Breaks and Replaces12:55
Palibut I'm using my own version of kdepim so I cannot test it on my machine if kdepim is working correctly...12:56
Paliso reason why I did not see this problem12:56
RiddellPali: I just tested the install in a virtual machine12:58
alvinBackports for 4.14.0? Careful there. IMAP may break in kmail when used with a courier server. It's supposedly fixed in 4.14.113:19
RiddellPali: ↑13:20
Paliok, so wait for 4.14.1?13:21
Paliwhen packages for trusty will be in ppa, I can start that kubuntu-automation script for repacking them for precise13:22
Riddellsgclark said she'd start on that, not heard from her today13:22
RiddellPali: but of course you can start on it too if you want to become an elite kubuntu ninja :)13:45
SourBlueWe don't have a Script that helps / automates repackaging?13:51
RiddellSourBlue: we have lots, what scenario were you thinking of14:17
Riddellmost are in bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation14:18
Riddellwhere, for example, I just finished porting kubuntu-initial-upload to use debian git where we've just moved our plasma 5 packaging14:18
Riddellto backport we have kubuntu-batch-backport14:19
SourBlueWhat?14:21
SourBluescenario?14:21
Riddellnew release of plasma 5 from kde? kubuntu-initial-upload to update the changelogs and throw into the next-staging PPA14:30
Riddellthen I set up kubuntu-ppa-build-status on the web server to show us an overview of what's built and what's broken14:30
Riddellthen we fix bits as needed14:30
Riddellkubuntu-archive-upload is the script to ready it for upload to ubuntu14:31
Riddelland kubuntu-batch-backport if you want to backport to kubuntu-ppa/backports or wherever14:31
SourBlueah okay i get it now14:34
Riddellso blue http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.95_utopic.html14:35
Riddelland notes are kept on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks14:35
Riddellalthough they're a bit messy now and the kubuntu-automation scripts have precious little documentation14:35
Riddellall linked from http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/14:35
SourBlueWhat does blue mean?14:36
Riddellwaiting to be built14:38
RiddellI just uploaded all of plasma 4.0.95 to kubuntu-ppa/next-staging PPA and launchpad will built it14:39
Riddellexcept they seem to have the wrong version of extra-cmake-modules so it's wanting on that to appear14:39
RiddellI'll change the version in build-depends as that version doesn't exist yet14:39
Riddelland there's new tars that needs whole new packages being made14:43
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Riddellapachelogger, shadeslayer: someone can probably turn off the sddm-kcm in blue-shell now, it's failing and we have a real release in next ppa14:56
Riddellfirst build failures/fixes needed incoming! http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.95_utopic.html15:04
Riddellhmm, breeze translations? in the breeze metapackage or in the breeze .deb they're related to? breeze_style_config.mo and kde-style-breeze15:48
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Riddellbreeze-qt4 uploaded but it fails, a task for tomorrow16:57
Riddelltime to wander oof, adios todo16:57
soeeding dong :)18:21
soeehows teh plasma5.1 b2 ? ?18:44
* BluesKaj waits for a response to soee's question :)18:49
soeeoh its b1 not b2 right ?18:50
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waddlesplashok, another bug for ya21:36
waddlesplashon KDE Plasma 5 Kubuntu, plugging in headphones does not mute speakers21:36
waddlesplash"cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec" outputs "Codec: Realtek ALC889"21:36
waddlesplash(by not muting speakers, I mean that identical sound comes out of the speakers and the headphones)21:37
kdeuser56waddlesplash: is kmix running?21:37
waddlesplashkdeuser56: indeed it is, I have it open right now21:37
kdeuser56waddlesplash: which application produces the sound?21:37
waddlesplashkdeuser56: any application, KMix's own sound dings come out both for example21:38
waddlesplashI can play stuff in VLC or Firefox or Flash Player and it'll come out everywhere21:38
kdeuser56waddlesplash: and that does not happen on the other utopic iso?21:38
waddlesplashkdeuser56: Did not try. It doesn't happen on Windows with the proprietary Realtek drivers21:39
kdeuser56waddlesplash: hm. would be great if you tested it with the other utopic iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/21:40
waddlesplashwhy would that change anything?21:40
waddlesplashisn't the Alsa/Pulseaudio versions the same?21:40
waddlesplashI don't see why this is a KMix problem...21:40
kdeuser56waddlesplash: yeah exactly. but plasma5 is not there21:40
waddlesplashSo? And KMix is the KDE4 version anyway21:40
waddlesplash(Kmix 4.5 using KDE Platform 4.14)21:40
kdeuser56waddlesplash: hm okay ... then it as nothing to do with plasma 521:41
waddlesplashyep21:41
waddlesplashso far the only differences between the v4 ISO and v5 ISO are that this one has Plasma Workspace v521:41
waddlesplashand KSysguard is v521:41
waddlesplashall the other apps are v421:41
waddlesplashwell, ok, KWin too21:42
kdeuser56waddlesplash: this problem is specific to your hardware then. I am using utopic too21:42
waddlesplashok21:42
waddlesplashwierd, because this did not happen on 14.0421:42
waddlesplashand I didn't change my hardware since then21:42
kdeuser56waddlesplash: I would not be sure on the changes you listed. There are A LOT more changes between the isos21:42
waddlesplashthemes, etc. yes.21:43
waddlesplashbut the base kernel/compiler/drivers/etc. are all the same21:43
waddlesplashno idea what's going on21:43
kdeuser56waddlesplash: if I were you I'd test with a normal utopic iso and then try to report a bug21:44
waddlesplashAlsaMixer detecs the headphones21:44
waddlesplashkdeuser56: well, I installed it21:44
waddlesplashso, not so easy21:44
waddlesplashkdeuser56: well, AlsaMixer detecs my headphone jack and can modify the volume independently of the speaker output21:45
waddlesplashnot sure what the issue is then21:45
kdeuser56waddlesplash: in fact kmix may have a lot to do with sound ... try it ... kill kmix and see whats left of your soundoutput21:46
waddlesplashkdeuser56: "killall kmix" and everything still plays21:47
waddlesplashstill can modify volumes via alsamixer21:47
kdeuser56waddlesplash: weird21:47
kdeuser56waddlesplash: okay that it back ... not weird21:48
kdeuser56waddlesplash: seems I ran in a problem last time i tried21:48
waddlesplashYou don't know much about the KMix<->ALSA stuff do you?21:48
waddlesplashbecause, I know enough to know that KMix is just a GUI21:48
waddlesplashand really not much else21:48
kdeuser56waddlesplash: its a gui yes, but one that has the power to mess around21:49
kdeuser56waddlesplash: (the backend)21:49
waddlesplashso? still can't do everything21:50
waddlesplashnothing relies on it but other KDE apps really21:50
kdeuser56waddlesplash: I am not saying I know much about alsa etc. I was just trying to make suggestions and to rule out all possible causes21:51
waddlesplashyeah, already did that21:51
waddlesplashthanks for your help tho21:51
waddlesplashmaybe Riddell can shed some light on this, if not, I suppose it's not hard to unplug the speakers when I want to use headphones21:51
waddlesplashwhich is not that often21:51
valorieRiddell: sorry, I was probably incoherent with sleep deprivation + joy at finally getting a ... mostly working install22:48

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