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newUserhi everybody01:39
newUseri am a new kubuntu user01:39
newUserand i can't run firefox01:40
malc_calcif you're still there: what did you try, and what happened? the usual way to start it would be through menubutton -> Internet02:21
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TheFakeazneD525so um04:44
TheFakeazneD525I configured cups for my brother printer04:45
TheFakeazneD525but this is a laptop04:45
TheFakeazneD525so I unplugged it...04:45
TheFakeazneD525Is there any "unmounting" thing I should have done?04:45
TheFakeazneD525or can I use my printer plug and play style04:45
TheFakeazneD525pls halp04:46
valorieis it wireless?04:48
valorieif so, it should Just Work04:48
valorieyou probably should have unmounted it, but if the setup was complete, probably no harm done04:49
TheFakeazneD525valorie: Brother 5150D laserjet printer, USB 2.0 connection04:50
valorieI'm not doing your googling for ya!04:52
TheFakeazneD525valorie: how to unmount printer tho04:53
valoriehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=155948504:53
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lordievaderGood morning.06:29
TheFakeazneD525hi lordievader06:33
lordievaderHey TheFakeazneD525, how are you?06:34
TheFakeazneD525I'm good06:34
TheFakeazneD525lordievader: I've decided to be proactive and upgrade rekonq from nepomuk to baloo until Qt 5.4 hits the repos06:40
valorieTheFakeazneD525: nepomuk is already mostly gone..... what kubuntu version are you using?06:49
valorieI just started up rekonq, opened a few tabs -- still no nepomuk in top06:51
lordievaderNepomuk, baloo. Never really known what they do... Usually I disable them...06:52
FritigernLast time i tried Bangarang, which was several months ago, it wouldn;t work with Baloo. Does anyone know if this has changed?06:52
valoriea search of system activity for nepomuk: no results06:53
valoriehmmm, banagarang06:53
lordievader!info bangarang06:53
ubottubangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-2ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 536 kB, installed size 2667 kB06:53
valoriethat isn't a KDE product; dunno06:54
FritigernBangarang also heavily depends on nepomuk06:54
TheFakeazneD525valorie: 14.0406:55
TheFakeazneD525valorie: rekonq still uses nepomuk06:55
valoriehmmm06:55
valoriebangarang progress seems to have stopped a couple of years ago06:56
valoriesad06:56
FritigernNever mind, looks like it was removed. It is notin Utopic06:56
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valoriehmmm, and yet their release notes say they are in kde git06:57
FritigernBTW, Nepomuk used to crash on me all the flipping time. Ballo has yet to crash for me06:57
Fritigernvalorie: They may be in KDE git, but not in the 'buntu repos06:58
valoriehttps://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/bangarang06:58
valorie$ apt-cache search bangarang06:58
valoriebangarang - Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE06:58
valorieso yes they are06:58
FritigernE: Unable to locate package bangarang06:59
valorieThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:59
FritigernAnd nothing wrong with my connection, nor do i get 404s when i apt-get updae06:59
* TheFakeazneD525 hopes he isn't violating any legal things with the changes he's doing >.>06:59
valorie bangarang : Depends: libnepomuk4 (>= 4:4.4.95) but it is not going to be installed06:59
Unit193!info bangarang utopic07:00
ubottuPackage bangarang does not exist in utopic07:00
valoriewhich is probably why your software center is reporting that07:00
FritigernThere you go!07:00
valorieapt-cache finds it however07:00
valorieI wouldn't install it, however07:01
FritigernDo you know what a cache is?07:01
Unit193valorie: apt-cache policy bangarang  see what source?07:01
valoriebangarang:07:01
valorie  Installed: (none)07:01
valorie  Candidate: 2.1-2ubuntu107:01
valorie  Version table:07:01
valorie     2.1-2ubuntu1 007:01
valorie        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages07:01
valorieI would assume we won't package it for utopic though07:01
FritigernBINGOOOOO!!!!!07:02
Fritigern[23:56:13] [[ Fritigern ]] Never mind, looks like it was removed. It is notin Utopic07:02
valoriebingo?07:02
valorieah07:02
valorieok, utopic is in beta07:02
valorieI have it on a test box, but not here07:02
valorieand we don't offer support to utopic here; that's in #ubuntu+1 until release day07:04
FritigernI never asked for support. My questions was [23:52:33] [[ Fritigern ]] Last time i tried Bangarang, which was several months ago, it wouldn;t work with Baloo. Does anyone know if this has changed?07:04
valoriesorry, Fritigern07:04
valorieit was after trusty was released that the change from nepomuk to baloo was completed07:05
valorieit seems that bangarang has lost its oomph07:05
FritigernI was just curious to find if anyone has put in any work on Bangarang to get it to work with baloo. The software looked interesting, but never fully worked for me because Nepomuk kept crapping the bed on me. So with Baloo i had hoped to give it a whirl (originally in Trusty) but no joy because it dependined on Nepo. I never looked to see if it waspart of the Utopic repo07:09
FritigernIt's no biggie though. My fave mediaplayer is Clementine, and occasionally VLC.07:09
Unit193https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/bangarang/repository/revisions/3855dc909209e6c872021c99c9b0098e2b82069807:10
jbernardonebonjour !07:13
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lordievader!fr | jeanjacques07:14
ubottujeanjacques: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.07:14
Fritigernhehehe,. last commit to Bangarang was a year ago. Looks like that's one dead project now.07:15
lordievaderFritigern: Become the new developer ;)07:16
valoriemaintainers needed!07:16
valorieand help porting applications to kf5/Qt507:16
FritigernHehehe, i can look at code, not read iet ;-)))07:17
Fritigern*it07:17
TheFakeazneD525valorie: hmm, it seems that the hard part will be porting from nepomuk to baloo07:18
valoriecould be, but vish is very helpful (maintainer of baloo)07:19
FritigernJust been updating and.... "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'". Dafook???07:19
lordievaderFritigern: Grub?07:20
FritigernYup07:20
lordievaderI've seen that warning before, wasn't very important IIRC.07:20
FritigernImportant enough for this Moderator to call it a root kit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221451707:21
FritigernWhat i don;t get is that this harddrive has never had windows or windows softwware on it, not even in Wine07:22
TheFakeazneD525valorie: if Qt 5.4 is being shipped in november, when can i expect it to hit Utopic repos?08:17
valoriehmmm, that's a good question08:18
valorieit's possible it will be backported, since that's an LTS08:18
valoriewell, some 5+08:19
lordievaderUtopic isn't an LTS.08:19
valorieoops, gads08:19
valorieI keep assuming people are on-topic08:19
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Depends on the packagers I suppose, I know for a fact that the Kubuntu team is allways looking for packagers. That way you might be able to speed it up ;)08:19
valoriegood bet for Utopic indeed08:20
TheFakeazneD525is there a gui frontend to make a debian package :3?08:20
Andy2Hi, is there already a livecd iso available with plasma 5 second release?08:29
valorieyes08:30
Andy2Could you provide me with a link?08:30
Andy2Could find it on the webpage08:30
valoriehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/releases/utopic/08:30
valorieI'm seeding the torrents....08:30
valoriefor beta208:31
valoriesec08:31
Andy2hm08:31
Andy2i am not sure that the correct on08:31
Andy2I am talking about this plasma release: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.0.95.php08:31
Andy2but let my download and check to be sure08:32
Andy2ah well, the iso doesn't boot up, when i click on "try" it just jumps back to the same window08:33
Andy2It's a bit to beta i guess, thx anyway ;)08:34
valoriewell, there are the dailies08:37
valoriehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/08:37
Andy2oh nice08:37
Andy2thanks08:37
Andy2well, looks like the "try mode" does not work with virtual box08:43
Andy2at least not for me.08:43
lordievaderVirtual box is broken from what I've heard. Try kvm, kvm is nice.08:44
Andy2Nah it's ok thx. It's not that important to test a pre release.08:45
valorieAndy2: it might not be important for you08:50
valoriebut it is important to the development team08:51
valoriethat's the point of pre-releases08:51
valorieto get testing08:51
hateball!+108:51
* valorie is in the process of breaking a laptop right now, lol08:51
hateballubottu: cut it out :|08:51
ubottuhateball: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:51
hateball!kubuntu+108:51
hateballsure.08:51
Andy2Right. My point was. It is not important enough to me to install KVM just to test the release. I agree that it should work with virtualbox if that is what you meant.08:51
hateballPerhaps there is no +1, like there is for Ubuntu08:52
valorieAndy2: got it08:52
valorievirtualbox doesn't seem to be working for people lately08:52
TheFakeazneD525valorie: I'll test it later08:52
valorieqemu and ...? the other one might work08:52
TheFakeazneD525valorie: vmware?08:53
Andy2well, i test a lot of livecds and this is teh first time i can remember it does not work08:53
valorie!vm08:53
ubottuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications08:53
valorieyes, vmware08:53
TheFakeazneD525wheemvar08:53
TheFakeazneD525valorie: how much memory should I give it?08:53
valorieAndy2: did you md5sum it?08:53
Andy2not let me do that08:53
valoriemy liveUSBs didn't work until I verified the iso08:53
valorie!md5sum08:54
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:54
Andy2md5 is ok08:54
valorieTheFakeazneD525: I dunno, look at the documentation08:54
valorieit's been a long while since I used a vm to test anything08:54
lordievaderhateball: Did you mean !ubuntu+1?08:56
lordievader!ubuntu+108:56
ubottuUtopic Unicorn is the codename for Ubuntu 14.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+108:56
hateballlordievader: yes, but ubuntu isnt kubuntu is it :p09:24
TheFakeazneD525hateball: just a different interface09:28
hateballTheFakeazneD525: By which logic this, and other not-actually-#ubuntu channels should not exist at all09:29
lordievaderhateball: Still, all Utopic support is in #ubuntu+1, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.09:29
hateballIt's not very consistent having different channels depending on DE, but only for currently supported releases09:30
hateballlordievader: Yes, that's fine. Just inconsistent :p09:30
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BluesKajHiyas all10:39
* libreSSL eats BluesKaj10:55
BluesKajlibreSSL, ??10:57
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davls82hi all11:59
lordievadero/12:02
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anupam64Recently I installed Zorin OS and removed some unwanted application from 'Software Center'. After removing those apps and doing an update on the OS, most components of "System Settings" are no more available which were seen on fresh installation. Can anybody tell me how to recover the default view. Some components which are no more available are "Online users, user accounts, Appearance etc.13:14
BluesKajanupam64, zorin OS is not supported here13:16
lordievaderanupam64: See #ZorinOS for Zorin OS support.13:17
anupam64@blueKaj-ok13:17
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TheFakeazneD525moo16:10
TheFakeazneD525So, when cmaking a program it gives me   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5QtCore" with   any of the following names:     Qt5QtCoreConfig.cmake     qt5qtcore-config.cmake16:11
TheFakeazneD525how fix16:11
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Find the package that provides that file.16:11
libreSSLI searched in muon for "qt5 dev" "qt5 core" and such, but nothing turned up16:13
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18VAA4UGPHas anyone a special grant for me?17:32
18VAA4UGPbugfix or any related17:33
lordievader18VAA4UGP: What do you mean?17:34
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lordievader18VAA4UGP: This is the wrong channel for that.17:39
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TheFakeazneD525blargh18:00
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: To come back to your earlier question: apt-file is usefull for that.18:01
TheFakeazneD525installing...18:02
TheFakeazneD525aaand, sound isn't working18:09
TheFakeazneD525\o/18:09
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Did PA die?18:09
TheFakeazneD525umm, one second18:10
TheFakeazneD525lordievader: there's a lot of clicking :c18:10
TheFakeazneD525pa seems to be running18:10
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Hmm, restarting pa might solve your problem.18:11
TheFakeazneD525huh, plugging the headphone cable back in fixed it...18:11
TheFakeazneD525Why are all my audio issues hardware related >.>18:12
TheFakeazneD525everyone says PA is a horrible thing that dies every 4 seconds and breaks your system... for me it's been user error18:12
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: I never said that... I like PA.18:13
TheFakeazneD525I mean in general18:13
TheFakeazneD525everyone badmouths PA18:13
lordievaderI know, while it is quite lovely.18:14
TheFakeazneD525never base opinions off of alpha releases >.>18:14
TheFakeazneD525same thing with KDE4, iirc18:14
BluesKajPA has it's uses now, especially after alsa' s lack of serious development since PA was introduced, but mostly it's just another layer opf audio p[18:15
BluesKajprocessing that a lot of systems wouldn't need id alsa had been pursued further18:16
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lordievaderThe aim of both projects is different.18:17
BluesKajstill not used to this damn KB, everything is shifted to left18:17
BluesKajPA is finre for those who need several simultaneous sources, othwerwise users like me have no use for it18:18
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porragreetings18:22
lordievadero/18:23
porraok,so I need some assistance.my first time ever on a irc client app.Can anybody tell me how I can change channels,what to enter were,and how?18:23
TheFakeazneD525/join #channelname18:24
porraTheFakeazne,ta,but the irc channel im trying to access is icq.chat18:26
porrahow do i do this?18:26
porraie:I need to know how to change the server18:28
porrathink thats the term18:28
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* TheFakeazneD525 pokes lordievader20:48
TheFakeazneD525So, I added the "radeon" driver to the modprobe blacklist, because the page on the wiki said to...20:48
TheFakeazneD525but now, I can't boot with the default grub option20:49
TheFakeazneD525so I removed the rule, but it still wont wokr20:49
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Err, what page?20:52
TheFakeazneD525ummm20:52
lordievaderSeems like a bad idea.20:52
TheFakeazneD525!drivers20:52
TheFakeazneD525wait its probably in my history20:52
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: You do know what blacklisting means right?20:53
TheFakeazneD525it won't load it at boot... r-right?20:53
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Correct.20:53
TheFakeazneD525https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD20:54
TheFakeazneD525lordievader: does fglrx require radeon?20:54
TheFakeazneD525wait...20:54
TheFakeazneD525Make sure you deload the module ati-agp by issuing: sudo rmmod ati-agp and blacklist it in: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist20:55
TheFakeazneD525I really should double check things20:55
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: If you install the fglrx driver trough apt there is no need to manually blacklist anything.20:56
TheFakeazneD525I did, but when i booted normally it used the open sauce driver20:56
TheFakeazneD525even though I had fglrx installed, through drivermangler20:56
lordievaderIs dkms installed?20:57
TheFakeazneD525ye20:57
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: Besides, the radeon driver doesn't cut it for you?20:57
TheFakeazneD525I like squeezing whatever performance I can get out of this machine :c20:58
TheFakeazneD525lordievader: how to fix21:00
TheFakeazneD525because I unblacklisted radeon, rebooted, and chose the default ubuntu option in grub21:00
TheFakeazneD525but it just went into a blackish screen21:00
TheFakeazneD525couldn't even go into tty21:00
lordievaderTheFakeazneD525: At this point no idea. And since I'm going to bed I have no time to debug it. Tomorrow?21:00
TheFakeazneD525ok <321:01
lordievaderOk, talk to you later.21:02
HarrySacks!ops21:03
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Hobbsee, Tm_T, Nalioth, Riddell, seth, imbrandon, gnomefreak, nixternal, ryanakca, mneptok, PriceChild, tsimpson, jussi, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok, claydoh, maco, seele, Nightrose, JontheEnchidna, rgreening, or txwikinger21:03
TheFakeazneD525oh dear21:04
TheFakeazneD525HarrySacks: what do you need/want21:04
TheFakeazneD525wait a second I recognize that ident21:04
* TheFakeazneD525 gives genii a coffee for banning the trole21:06
geniiTheFakeazneD525: Heh, thanks!21:06
* genii sips21:06
lordievadergenii: Points to -offtopic21:06
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sqphany plans to upgrade package "kdeconnect" to more recent version? (currently 0.5.2.1, latest is 0.7.2)?22:49
sqphThere are a lot of key added functionalities. I'm not sure I could manage to build it...22:49
valoriesqph: please file a bug22:50
valoriedevels are running at top speed these days, but we all want that too22:50
sqphgreat, I've never filed a bug before though22:51
sqphnot sure where to begin22:51
sqphok so I ran the command "ubuntu-bug kdeconnect" and it will send lot of non-relevant info to the devs, no message field. Here's hoping they understand it's about the version, not an actual bug.23:00
valoriesqph, you'll want to file it as a wish23:02
valorieneeds-packaging or somesuch23:02
valorieif you have the link to the latest tarball, that will save them time23:02
sqphyou mean "ubuntu-bug kdeconnect --needs-packaging" ?23:02
sqphlet me look this up23:03
valorieno, the bug will be on kde-connect23:04
valorienot sure how to do a wish in ubuntu-bug23:04
valoriebut there should be a way, because ubuntu-bug <323:04
sqphvalorie: i'm pretty sure the actual package is "kdeconnect". i've been looking at the man pages for "apport-cli" and there doesn't seem to be an option for requesting packages either.23:07
valoriea new package differs from an updated one also23:09
sqph"apt-cache show kdeconnect" seems to indicate "kdeconnect" replaced "kdeconnect-kde" some time ago. not sure what the latest from the tarball names itself23:11
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* ganjamon33 waves hello23:14
valoriehmmm, I have 0.7.123:19
valoriehttp://paste.kde.org/pcegzin1y23:20
valorielooks like you need backports or something23:20
TheFakeazneD525kdeconnect-cli 1.023:20
sqphhmm... I'm on 32bit architecture, maybe they haven't updated 32bit repos with 0.7.x ?23:22
genii!info kdeconnect23:22
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.2.1-0ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 265 kB, installed size 1722 kB23:22
valoriesqph: try `apt-cache policy kdeconnect` in the konsole and see23:23
valoriecompare to my paste23:23
genii!info kdeconnect kubuntu-backports23:24
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.1-0ubuntu3~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1 (kubuntu-backports), package size 246 kB, installed size 1473 kB23:24
sqphvalorie: see comment http://paste.kde.org/pcegzin1y23:25
geniiThis would seem to indicate you're on 64 bit architecture and not 3223:26
sqphgenii: (i'm the comment, not the original paste)23:26
valorieindeed, you need to install the backports ppa23:27
sqphmy repos are all i38623:27
valorieI mean repo23:27
sqphvalorie: how do i do this?23:27
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valorie`sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports` in the cli or just add it in muon or whatever gui you use23:28
sqphhmm but isn't that going to add lots of packages to my repos, that aren't well tested? isn't there an option to tell apt to look in the backports just for this particular package?23:30
e__I installed KDE Applications and Development Platform 4.14 but under "About KDE" it says I have Platform Version 14.13.3. Should I worry about this? I saw a bunch of system files being updated and I restarted the system.23:31
sqphfrom debian.org "It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports."23:33
sqphvalorie: say I add the ppa repo, then if I type "apt-get install somepackage", will it get the backport by default if available?23:34
sqphcause i'm not sure I can deal with that with my limited knowledge23:34
valoriesqph: yes23:36
valoriedo `sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade` if you want to the newest everything23:37
sqphvalorie: ok thx. but I don't want everything to be backports. see the quote from debian.org. i'm sure i can apt-get install kdeconnect from the backport repo without actually subscribing to the repo. not sure I will get future updates though. But if it installs dependencies correctly, then I'm happy with that. I'll try --simulate and see23:40
e__I installed KDE Applications and Development Platform 4.14 but under "About KDE" it says I have Platform Version 14.13.3. Should I worry about this? I saw a bunch of system files being updated and I restarted the system.23:41
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sqph!info sshfs23:44
ubottusshfs (source: sshfs-fuse): filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 40 kB, installed size 133 kB23:44
sqphvalorie: "sudo apt-get install kdeconnect -t trusty-backports" seems to do the trick. Will try installing now. thx for the help23:46
sqphrebooting23:50
sqphit worked. i feel so 133723:57

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