[01:39] <newUser> hi everybody
[01:39] <newUser> i am a new kubuntu user
[01:40] <newUser> and i can't run firefox
[02:21] <malc_calc> if you're still there: what did you try, and what happened? the usual way to start it would be through menubutton -> Internet
[04:44] <TheFakeazneD525> so um
[04:45] <TheFakeazneD525> I configured cups for my brother printer
[04:45] <TheFakeazneD525> but this is a laptop
[04:45] <TheFakeazneD525> so I unplugged it...
[04:45] <TheFakeazneD525> Is there any "unmounting" thing I should have done?
[04:45] <TheFakeazneD525> or can I use my printer plug and play style
[04:46] <TheFakeazneD525> pls halp
[04:48] <valorie> is it wireless?
[04:48] <valorie> if so, it should Just Work
[04:49] <valorie> you probably should have unmounted it, but if the setup was complete, probably no harm done
[04:50] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: Brother 5150D laserjet printer, USB 2.0 connection
[04:52] <valorie> I'm not doing your googling for ya!
[04:53] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: how to unmount printer tho
[04:53] <valorie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1559485
[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:33] <TheFakeazneD525> hi lordievader
[06:34] <lordievader> Hey TheFakeazneD525, how are you?
[06:34] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm good
[06:40] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: I've decided to be proactive and upgrade rekonq from nepomuk to baloo until Qt 5.4 hits the repos
[06:49] <valorie> TheFakeazneD525: nepomuk is already mostly gone..... what kubuntu version are you using?
[06:51] <valorie> I just started up rekonq, opened a few tabs -- still no nepomuk in top
[06:52] <lordievader> Nepomuk, baloo. Never really known what they do... Usually I disable them...
[06:52] <Fritigern> Last time i tried Bangarang, which was several months ago, it wouldn;t work with Baloo. Does anyone know if this has changed?
[06:53] <valorie> a search of system activity for nepomuk: no results
[06:53] <valorie> hmmm, banagarang
[06:53] <lordievader> !info bangarang
[06:54] <valorie> that isn't a KDE product; dunno
[06:54] <Fritigern> Bangarang also heavily depends on nepomuk
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: 14.04
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: rekonq still uses nepomuk
[06:55] <valorie> hmmm
[06:56] <valorie> bangarang progress seems to have stopped a couple of years ago
[06:56] <valorie> sad
[06:56] <Fritigern> Never mind, looks like it was removed. It is notin Utopic
[06:57] <valorie> hmmm, and yet their release notes say they are in kde git
[06:57] <Fritigern> BTW, Nepomuk used to crash on me all the flipping time. Ballo has yet to crash for me
[06:58] <Fritigern> valorie: They may be in KDE git, but not in the 'buntu repos
[06:58] <valorie> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/bangarang
[06:58] <valorie> $ apt-cache search bangarang
[06:58] <valorie> bangarang - Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE
[06:58] <valorie> so yes they are
[06:59] <Fritigern> E: Unable to locate package bangarang
[06:59] <valorie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:59] <Fritigern> And nothing wrong with my connection, nor do i get 404s when i apt-get updae
[06:59]  * TheFakeazneD525 hopes he isn't violating any legal things with the changes he's doing >.>
[06:59] <valorie>  bangarang : Depends: libnepomuk4 (>= 4:4.4.95) but it is not going to be installed
[07:00] <Unit193> !info bangarang utopic
[07:00] <valorie> which is probably why your software center is reporting that
[07:00] <Fritigern> There you go!
[07:00] <valorie> apt-cache finds it however
[07:01] <valorie> I wouldn't install it, however
[07:01] <Fritigern> Do you know what a cache is?
[07:01] <Unit193> valorie: apt-cache policy bangarang  see what source?
[07:01] <valorie> bangarang:
[07:01] <valorie>   Installed: (none)
[07:01] <valorie>   Candidate: 2.1-2ubuntu1
[07:01] <valorie>   Version table:
[07:01] <valorie>      2.1-2ubuntu1 0
[07:01] <valorie>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[07:01] <valorie> I would assume we won't package it for utopic though
[07:02] <Fritigern> BINGOOOOO!!!!!
[07:02] <Fritigern> [23:56:13] [[ Fritigern ]] Never mind, looks like it was removed. It is notin Utopic
[07:02] <valorie> bingo?
[07:02] <valorie> ah
[07:02] <valorie> ok, utopic is in beta
[07:02] <valorie> I have it on a test box, but not here
[07:04] <valorie> and we don't offer support to utopic here; that's in #ubuntu+1 until release day
[07:04] <Fritigern> I never asked for support. My questions was [23:52:33] [[ Fritigern ]] Last time i tried Bangarang, which was several months ago, it wouldn;t work with Baloo. Does anyone know if this has changed?
[07:04] <valorie> sorry, Fritigern
[07:05] <valorie> it was after trusty was released that the change from nepomuk to baloo was completed
[07:05] <valorie> it seems that bangarang has lost its oomph
[07:09] <Fritigern> I was just curious to find if anyone has put in any work on Bangarang to get it to work with baloo. The software looked interesting, but never fully worked for me because Nepomuk kept crapping the bed on me. So with Baloo i had hoped to give it a whirl (originally in Trusty) but no joy because it dependined on Nepo. I never looked to see if it waspart of the Utopic repo
[07:09] <Fritigern> It's no biggie though. My fave mediaplayer is Clementine, and occasionally VLC.
[07:10] <Unit193> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/bangarang/repository/revisions/3855dc909209e6c872021c99c9b0098e2b820698
[07:13] <jbernardone> bonjour !
[07:14] <lordievader> !fr | jeanjacques
[07:15] <Fritigern> hehehe,. last commit to Bangarang was a year ago. Looks like that's one dead project now.
[07:16] <lordievader> Fritigern: Become the new developer ;)
[07:16] <valorie> maintainers needed!
[07:16] <valorie> and help porting applications to kf5/Qt5
[07:17] <Fritigern> Hehehe, i can look at code, not read iet ;-)))
[07:17] <Fritigern> *it
[07:18] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: hmm, it seems that the hard part will be porting from nepomuk to baloo
[07:19] <valorie> could be, but vish is very helpful (maintainer of baloo)
[07:19] <Fritigern> Just been updating and.... "Sector 32 is already in use by the program `FlexNet'". Dafook???
[07:20] <lordievader> Fritigern: Grub?
[07:20] <Fritigern> Yup
[07:20] <lordievader> I've seen that warning before, wasn't very important IIRC.
[07:21] <Fritigern> Important enough for this Moderator to call it a root kit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214517
[07:22] <Fritigern> What i don;t get is that this harddrive has never had windows or windows softwware on it, not even in Wine
[08:17] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: if Qt 5.4 is being shipped in november, when can i expect it to hit Utopic repos?
[08:18] <valorie> hmmm, that's a good question
[08:18] <valorie> it's possible it will be backported, since that's an LTS
[08:19] <valorie> well, some 5+
[08:19] <lordievader> Utopic isn't an LTS.
[08:19] <valorie> oops, gads
[08:19] <valorie> I keep assuming people are on-topic
[08:19] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Depends on the packagers I suppose, I know for a fact that the Kubuntu team is allways looking for packagers. That way you might be able to speed it up ;)
[08:20] <valorie> good bet for Utopic indeed
[08:20] <TheFakeazneD525> is there a gui frontend to make a debian package :3?
[08:29] <Andy2> Hi, is there already a livecd iso available with plasma 5 second release?
[08:30] <valorie> yes
[08:30] <Andy2> Could you provide me with a link?
[08:30] <Andy2> Could find it on the webpage
[08:30] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/releases/utopic/
[08:30] <valorie> I'm seeding the torrents....
[08:31] <valorie> for beta2
[08:31] <valorie> sec
[08:31] <Andy2> hm
[08:31] <Andy2> i am not sure that the correct on
[08:31] <Andy2> I am talking about this plasma release: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.0.95.php
[08:32] <Andy2> but let my download and check to be sure
[08:33] <Andy2> ah well, the iso doesn't boot up, when i click on "try" it just jumps back to the same window
[08:34] <Andy2> It's a bit to beta i guess, thx anyway ;)
[08:37] <valorie> well, there are the dailies
[08:37] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/
[08:37] <Andy2> oh nice
[08:37] <Andy2> thanks
[08:43] <Andy2> well, looks like the "try mode" does not work with virtual box
[08:43] <Andy2> at least not for me.
[08:44] <lordievader> Virtual box is broken from what I've heard. Try kvm, kvm is nice.
[08:45] <Andy2> Nah it's ok thx. It's not that important to test a pre release.
[08:50] <valorie> Andy2: it might not be important for you
[08:51] <valorie> but it is important to the development team
[08:51] <valorie> that's the point of pre-releases
[08:51] <valorie> to get testing
[08:51] <hateball> !+1
[08:51]  * valorie is in the process of breaking a laptop right now, lol
[08:51] <hateball> ubottu: cut it out :|
[08:51] <hateball> !kubuntu+1
[08:51] <hateball> sure.
[08:51] <Andy2> Right. My point was. It is not important enough to me to install KVM just to test the release. I agree that it should work with virtualbox if that is what you meant.
[08:52] <hateball> Perhaps there is no +1, like there is for Ubuntu
[08:52] <valorie> Andy2: got it
[08:52] <valorie> virtualbox doesn't seem to be working for people lately
[08:52] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: I'll test it later
[08:52] <valorie> qemu and ...? the other one might work
[08:53] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: vmware?
[08:53] <Andy2> well, i test a lot of livecds and this is teh first time i can remember it does not work
[08:53] <valorie> !vm
[08:53] <valorie> yes, vmware
[08:53] <TheFakeazneD525> wheemvar
[08:53] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: how much memory should I give it?
[08:53] <valorie> Andy2: did you md5sum it?
[08:53] <Andy2> not let me do that
[08:53] <valorie> my liveUSBs didn't work until I verified the iso
[08:54] <valorie> !md5sum
[08:54] <Andy2> md5 is ok
[08:54] <valorie> TheFakeazneD525: I dunno, look at the documentation
[08:54] <valorie> it's been a long while since I used a vm to test anything
[08:56] <lordievader> hateball: Did you mean !ubuntu+1?
[08:56] <lordievader> !ubuntu+1
[09:24] <hateball> lordievader: yes, but ubuntu isnt kubuntu is it :p
[09:28] <TheFakeazneD525> hateball: just a different interface
[09:29] <hateball> TheFakeazneD525: By which logic this, and other not-actually-#ubuntu channels should not exist at all
[09:29] <lordievader> hateball: Still, all Utopic support is in #ubuntu+1, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.
[09:30] <hateball> It's not very consistent having different channels depending on DE, but only for currently supported releases
[09:30] <hateball> lordievader: Yes, that's fine. Just inconsistent :p
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:55]  * libreSSL eats BluesKaj
[10:57] <BluesKaj> libreSSL, ??
[11:59] <davls82> hi all
[12:02] <lordievader> o/
[13:14] <anupam64> Recently I installed Zorin OS and removed some unwanted application from 'Software Center'. After removing those apps and doing an update on the OS, most components of "System Settings" are no more available which were seen on fresh installation. Can anybody tell me how to recover the default view. Some components which are no more available are "Online users, user accounts, Appearance etc.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> anupam64, zorin OS is not supported here
[13:17] <lordievader> anupam64: See #ZorinOS for Zorin OS support.
[13:17] <anupam64> @blueKaj-ok
[16:10] <TheFakeazneD525> moo
[16:11] <TheFakeazneD525> So, when cmaking a program it gives me   Could not find a package configuration file provided by "Qt5QtCore" with   any of the following names:     Qt5QtCoreConfig.cmake     qt5qtcore-config.cmake
[16:11] <TheFakeazneD525> how fix
[16:11] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Find the package that provides that file.
[16:13] <libreSSL> I searched in muon for "qt5 dev" "qt5 core" and such, but nothing turned up
[17:32] <18VAA4UGP> Has anyone a special grant for me?
[17:33] <18VAA4UGP> bugfix or any related
[17:34] <lordievader> 18VAA4UGP: What do you mean?
[17:39] <lordievader> 18VAA4UGP: This is the wrong channel for that.
[18:00] <TheFakeazneD525> blargh
[18:01] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: To come back to your earlier question: apt-file is usefull for that.
[18:02] <TheFakeazneD525> installing...
[18:09] <TheFakeazneD525> aaand, sound isn't working
[18:09] <TheFakeazneD525> \o/
[18:09] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Did PA die?
[18:10] <TheFakeazneD525> umm, one second
[18:10] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: there's a lot of clicking :c
[18:10] <TheFakeazneD525> pa seems to be running
[18:11] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Hmm, restarting pa might solve your problem.
[18:11] <TheFakeazneD525> huh, plugging the headphone cable back in fixed it...
[18:12] <TheFakeazneD525> Why are all my audio issues hardware related >.>
[18:12] <TheFakeazneD525> everyone says PA is a horrible thing that dies every 4 seconds and breaks your system... for me it's been user error
[18:13] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: I never said that... I like PA.
[18:13] <TheFakeazneD525> I mean in general
[18:13] <TheFakeazneD525> everyone badmouths PA
[18:14] <lordievader> I know, while it is quite lovely.
[18:14] <TheFakeazneD525> never base opinions off of alpha releases >.>
[18:14] <TheFakeazneD525> same thing with KDE4, iirc
[18:15] <BluesKaj> PA has it's uses now, especially after alsa' s lack of serious development since PA was introduced, but mostly it's just another layer opf audio p[
[18:16] <BluesKaj> processing that a lot of systems wouldn't need id alsa had been pursued further
[18:17] <lordievader> The aim of both projects is different.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> still not used to this damn KB, everything is shifted to left
[18:18] <BluesKaj> PA is finre for those who need several simultaneous sources, othwerwise users like me have no use for it
[18:22] <porra> greetings
[18:23] <lordievader> o/
[18:23] <porra> ok,so I need some assistance.my first time ever on a irc client app.Can anybody tell me how I can change channels,what to enter were,and how?
[18:24] <TheFakeazneD525> /join #channelname
[18:26] <porra> TheFakeazne,ta,but the irc channel im trying to access is icq.chat
[18:26] <porra> how do i do this?
[18:28] <porra> ie:I need to know how to change the server
[18:28] <porra> think thats the term
[20:48]  * TheFakeazneD525 pokes lordievader
[20:48] <TheFakeazneD525> So, I added the "radeon" driver to the modprobe blacklist, because the page on the wiki said to...
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> but now, I can't boot with the default grub option
[20:49] <TheFakeazneD525> so I removed the rule, but it still wont wokr
[20:52] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Err, what page?
[20:52] <TheFakeazneD525> ummm
[20:52] <lordievader> Seems like a bad idea.
[20:52] <TheFakeazneD525> !drivers
[20:52] <TheFakeazneD525> wait its probably in my history
[20:53] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: You do know what blacklisting means right?
[20:53] <TheFakeazneD525> it won't load it at boot... r-right?
[20:53] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Correct.
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: does fglrx require radeon?
[20:54] <TheFakeazneD525> wait...
[20:55] <TheFakeazneD525> Make sure you deload the module ati-agp by issuing: sudo rmmod ati-agp and blacklist it in: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:55] <TheFakeazneD525> I really should double check things
[20:56] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: If you install the fglrx driver trough apt there is no need to manually blacklist anything.
[20:56] <TheFakeazneD525> I did, but when i booted normally it used the open sauce driver
[20:56] <TheFakeazneD525> even though I had fglrx installed, through drivermangler
[20:57] <lordievader> Is dkms installed?
[20:57] <TheFakeazneD525> ye
[20:57] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: Besides, the radeon driver doesn't cut it for you?
[20:58] <TheFakeazneD525> I like squeezing whatever performance I can get out of this machine :c
[21:00] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: how to fix
[21:00] <TheFakeazneD525> because I unblacklisted radeon, rebooted, and chose the default ubuntu option in grub
[21:00] <TheFakeazneD525> but it just went into a blackish screen
[21:00] <TheFakeazneD525> couldn't even go into tty
[21:00] <lordievader> TheFakeazneD525: At this point no idea. And since I'm going to bed I have no time to debug it. Tomorrow?
[21:01] <TheFakeazneD525> ok <3
[21:02] <lordievader> Ok, talk to you later.
[21:03] <HarrySacks> !ops
[21:04] <TheFakeazneD525> oh dear
[21:04] <TheFakeazneD525> HarrySacks: what do you need/want
[21:04] <TheFakeazneD525> wait a second I recognize that ident
[21:06]  * TheFakeazneD525 gives genii a coffee for banning the trole
[21:06] <genii> TheFakeazneD525: Heh, thanks!
[21:06]  * genii sips
[21:06] <lordievader> genii: Points to -offtopic
[22:49] <sqph> any plans to upgrade package "kdeconnect" to more recent version? (currently 0.5.2.1, latest is 0.7.2)?
[22:49] <sqph> There are a lot of key added functionalities. I'm not sure I could manage to build it...
[22:50] <valorie> sqph: please file a bug
[22:50] <valorie> devels are running at top speed these days, but we all want that too
[22:51] <sqph> great, I've never filed a bug before though
[22:51] <sqph> not sure where to begin
[23:00] <sqph> ok so I ran the command "ubuntu-bug kdeconnect" and it will send lot of non-relevant info to the devs, no message field. Here's hoping they understand it's about the version, not an actual bug.
[23:02] <valorie> sqph, you'll want to file it as a wish
[23:02] <valorie> needs-packaging or somesuch
[23:02] <valorie> if you have the link to the latest tarball, that will save them time
[23:02] <sqph> you mean "ubuntu-bug kdeconnect --needs-packaging" ?
[23:03] <sqph> let me look this up
[23:04] <valorie> no, the bug will be on kde-connect
[23:04] <valorie> not sure how to do a wish in ubuntu-bug
[23:04] <valorie> but there should be a way, because ubuntu-bug <3
[23:07] <sqph> valorie: i'm pretty sure the actual package is "kdeconnect". i've been looking at the man pages for "apport-cli" and there doesn't seem to be an option for requesting packages either.
[23:09] <valorie> a new package differs from an updated one also
[23:11] <sqph> "apt-cache show kdeconnect" seems to indicate "kdeconnect" replaced "kdeconnect-kde" some time ago. not sure what the latest from the tarball names itself
[23:14]  * ganjamon33 waves hello
[23:19] <valorie> hmmm, I have 0.7.1
[23:20] <valorie> http://paste.kde.org/pcegzin1y
[23:20] <valorie> looks like you need backports or something
[23:20] <TheFakeazneD525> kdeconnect-cli 1.0
[23:22] <sqph> hmm... I'm on 32bit architecture, maybe they haven't updated 32bit repos with 0.7.x ?
[23:22] <genii> !info kdeconnect
[23:23] <valorie> sqph: try `apt-cache policy kdeconnect` in the konsole and see
[23:23] <valorie> compare to my paste
[23:24] <genii> !info kdeconnect kubuntu-backports
[23:25] <sqph> valorie: see comment http://paste.kde.org/pcegzin1y
[23:26] <genii> This would seem to indicate you're on 64 bit architecture and not 32
[23:26] <sqph> genii: (i'm the comment, not the original paste)
[23:27] <valorie> indeed, you need to install the backports ppa
[23:27] <sqph> my repos are all i386
[23:27] <valorie> I mean repo
[23:27] <sqph> valorie: how do i do this?
[23:28] <valorie> `sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports` in the cli or just add it in muon or whatever gui you use
[23:30] <sqph> hmm but isn't that going to add lots of packages to my repos, that aren't well tested? isn't there an option to tell apt to look in the backports just for this particular package?
[23:31] <e__> I installed KDE Applications and Development Platform 4.14 but under "About KDE" it says I have Platform Version 14.13.3. Should I worry about this? I saw a bunch of system files being updated and I restarted the system.
[23:33] <sqph> from debian.org "It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports."
[23:34] <sqph> valorie: say I add the ppa repo, then if I type "apt-get install somepackage", will it get the backport by default if available?
[23:34] <sqph> cause i'm not sure I can deal with that with my limited knowledge
[23:36] <valorie> sqph: yes
[23:37] <valorie> do `sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade` if you want to the newest everything
[23:40] <sqph> valorie: ok thx. but I don't want everything to be backports. see the quote from debian.org. i'm sure i can apt-get install kdeconnect from the backport repo without actually subscribing to the repo. not sure I will get future updates though. But if it installs dependencies correctly, then I'm happy with that. I'll try --simulate and see
[23:41] <e__> I installed KDE Applications and Development Platform 4.14 but under "About KDE" it says I have Platform Version 14.13.3. Should I worry about this? I saw a bunch of system files being updated and I restarted the system.
[23:44] <sqph> !info sshfs
[23:46] <sqph> valorie: "sudo apt-get install kdeconnect -t trusty-backports" seems to do the trick. Will try installing now. thx for the help
[23:50] <sqph> rebooting
[23:57] <sqph> it worked. i feel so 1337