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[06:29] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:28] <Novice201y> Hello. Where is "update button" in Utopic "about computer"?
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[10:18] <nrbrtx> Dear all! Today I have installed Ubuntu Utopic from beta2 CD and discovered that many bugs are still not fixed. These bugs are: 1245137, 1242572, 1263228, 1244090, 1270574, 1270579, 1280759.
[10:32] <bipul> nrbrtx: are you able to install ubuntu 14.10?
[10:32] <bipul> bug 1245137
[10:32] <ubottu> bug 1245137 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "hotkeys for keyboard layout switching do not work in unity-greeter in Saucy, Trusty and Utopic" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245137
[10:32] <nrbrtx> <bipul>, yes, I'm writing from 14.10.
[10:36] <bipul> nrbrtx: I am unable to install Ubuntu 14.10 inside my virtualbox
[10:36] <bipul> bug 1374754
[10:36] <ubottu> bug 1374754 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Ubuntu14.10 on Virtualbox" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1374754
[10:37] <nrbrtx> <bipul>, I installed on physical hardware (VAIO F13Z1R on external eSATA HDD).
[10:38] <bipul> humm...
[10:38] <bipul> nrbrtx: Try to install virtualbox on your Ubuntu 14.10 and  see are you able to install ubuntu 14.10 inside virtualbox or not.
[10:39] <nrbrtx> bipul, what virtualbox version do you use, from which repo?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:39] <lordievader> I've heard Virtualbox is broken. Try kvm ;)
[10:39] <bipul> nrbrtx:  Virtualbox 4.3.10
[10:41] <nrbrtx> bipul, on which system you try to install virtualbox?
[10:42] <bipul> Kubuntu14.04
[10:42] <nrbrtx> bipul, I have 14.04 too.
[10:43] <bipul> Does it works fine from your side? I mean are you able to install ubuntu 14.10 on virtualbox?
[10:44] <nrbrtx> bipul, I have just installed vbox 4.3.16 on Ubuntu 14.10, now creating VDI.
[10:45] <nrbrtx> bipul, vbox from https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[10:45] <bipul> oh ok ,
[10:48] <nrbrtx> bipul: on which CPU you try to install vbox? Is VMx/VT-x enabled in BIOS (lscpu | grep Virtualization)?
[10:49] <bipul> Yes, everythings is beiing enabled.
[10:50] <bipul> lscpu | grep Virtualization
[10:50] <bipul> Virtualization:        AMD-V
[10:51] <nrbrtx> bipul: I started Ubuntu 14.10 beta2 livecd in vbox, enable 2D and 3D acceleration with 128 Mb video RAM.
[10:52] <bipul> nrbrtx: is it working?
[10:52] <bipul> Yes i can boot with live cd the problem is i am not able to install it.
[10:52] <nrbrtx> bipul, yes I'm seeing "Preparing to install Ubuntu" graphical CD.
[10:53] <nrbrtx> bipul: now I'm pressing "Install now"
[10:54] <nrbrtx> bipul: seeing "Copying files"
[10:55] <bipul> ok let see
[11:00] <nrbrtx> bipul: now it downloads software (still in installer).
[11:01] <bipul> ok
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[11:03] <nrbrtx> bipul: now it suggests to reboot
[11:03] <bipul> let see
[11:04] <bipul> Is it working ??
[11:04] <nrbrtx> bipul: purple background and some vhdd actitivity
[11:05] <bipul> humm
[11:05] <nrbrtx> bipul: I rebooted it and pressed Escape in GRUB
[11:05] <bipul> why?
[11:05] <nrbrtx> bipul: it took too long
[11:05] <bipul> yes
[11:06] <nrbrtx> bipul: now rebooted in rescue mode
[11:06] <bipul> oh ok
[11:06] <nrbrtx> bipul: pressed resume in it, got normal greeter
[11:07] <nrbrtx> bipul: unity loaded
[11:08] <bipul> SO it's workign?
[11:08] <bipul> working!!
[11:08] <nrbrtx> bipul: working only from rescue mode
[11:09] <bipul> ok
[11:10] <nrbrtx> bipul: rebooted it with "verbose noplymouth"
[11:12] <nrbrtx> bipul: could you please try to boot your vbox with Ubuntu 14.10 and press Esc in GRUB?
[11:12] <nrbrtx> bipul: if I press Escape in GRUB and select first row, it boots normally.
[11:13] <bipul> ok let me reinstall it
[11:13] <nrbrtx> bipul: ok
[11:16] <nrbrtx> bipul: what is interesting - it seems that it boots normally, but does not show Unity greeter by default.
[11:16] <bipul> yes.
[11:17] <nrbrtx> bipul: I logged to in from console and now installing latest updates - 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'.
[11:23] <nrbrtx> bipul: after installing of all updates still no GUI login.
[11:26] <nrbrtx> bipul: after manually restart of lightdm (sudo service lightdm restart) it boots to GUI at login.
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[11:35] <bipul> humm
[11:35] <nrbrtx> bipul: I reporting bug about our issue.
[11:42] <bipul> show me
[12:01] <nrbrtx> bug 1376232
[12:01] <ubottu> bug 1376232 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Fresh installed Ubuntu Utopic does not boot to GUI when installed in VirtualBox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1376232
[12:15] <nrbrtx> bipul: any news?
[12:19] <nrbrtx> bug 1376232
[12:19] <ubottu> bug 1376232 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Fresh installed Ubuntu Utopic does not boot to GUI when installed in VirtualBox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1376232
[12:22] <bipul> The same problem i have mentioned in my bug
[12:22] <nrbrtx> bipul: where is your bug, so I created a duplicate?
[12:23] <bipul> nrbrtx: Not exactly, But i never loged in grub menue
[12:23] <bipul> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1374754
[12:23] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1374754 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Unable to install Ubuntu14.10 on Virtualbox" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[12:24] <bipul> 1374754
[12:25] <nrbrtx> bipul: it is great, that your bug is different
[12:25] <nrbrtx> bipul: I booted to Ubuntu 14.04.1 and will try to repeat installation on it.
[12:25] <bipul> what great, i was trying to install ubuntu in a normal way, and i was unable to install it
[12:25] <elfy> but are they dupes - there have been a couple of related bugs
[12:27] <elfy> bug 1375805
[12:27] <ubottu> bug 1375805 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Lightdm fails to start in VirtualBox " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375805
[12:28] <elfy> and bug 1371651
[12:28] <ubottu> bug 1371651 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371651
[12:29] <elfy> if you don;t get any plymouth crashes then it's likely to be the first of the 2
[12:29] <nrbrtx> dear elfy, where you was before? :)
[12:29] <elfy> working ;)
[12:29] <nrbrtx> elfy: nice
[12:30] <elfy> you can confirm if it's the first bug - there is a .conf file in post 6 - create that and then reboot
[12:30] <elfy> if it is the same bug - please mark your one as a dupe of 1375805 :)
[12:31] <nrbrtx> elfy: you can use my description as well.
[12:32] <elfy> wut?
[12:32] <nrbrtx> elfy: so I agree that mine should be set as duplicate of yours, but you can update the description using mine :)
[12:33] <elfy> I'm not here really - get a short lunch break then I'm off again
[12:33] <nrbrtx> elfy: ok
[12:52] <nrbrtx> elfy: you was too fast in launchpad. I have added file from comment 6 one minute ago - it boots to lightdm with it. So my bug is a really duplicate of yours, thank you!
[12:54] <lordievader> nrbrtx: Then please mark it as such.
[12:54] <lordievader> So people who find your bug will get redirected.
[12:54] <nrbrtx> lordievader: elfy already did it.
[12:55] <nrbrtx> bug 1376232
[12:55] <ubottu> bug 1375805 in systemd (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1376232 Lightdm fails to start in VirtualBox " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375805
[12:56] <lordievader> Check
[12:57] <nrbrtx> bipul: any news? have you get to Unity in your virtual Ubuntu?
[12:58] <bipul> Yes after selecting ubuntu.vdi and then i booted it. followed by your instruction.
[13:00] <nrbrtx> bipul: so we can talk about bugs from first message.
[13:01] <bipul> yes
[13:04] <nrbrtx> bipul: could you please paste here my original message (i do not know, how to get my messages history).
[13:04] <bipul> sure.
[13:10] <bipul> nrbrtx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8472626/
[13:11] <nrbrtx> bipul: how you did it? with which IRC commands&
[13:12] <bipul> no command just cut copy and paste :D
[13:12] <nrbrtx> bipul: ok, I mean my first message with bugs in Utopic. No problem - I'll write new.
[13:13] <lordievader> 01-12:18 < nrbrtx> Dear all! Today I have installed Ubuntu Utopic from beta2 CD and discovered that many bugs are still not fixed. These  bugs are: 1245137, 1242572, 1263228, 1244090, 1270574, 1270579, 1280759.
[13:13] <lordievader> nrbrtx: That one ^?
[13:14] <nrbrtx> <lordievader>, you saved my time. Thank you!
[13:14] <nrbrtx> so let's see the bugs.
[13:14] <nrbrtx> bug 1245137
[13:14] <ubottu> bug 1245137 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "hotkeys for keyboard layout switching do not work in unity-greeter in Saucy, Trusty and Utopic" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245137
[13:15] <nrbrtx> bug 1242572
[13:15] <ubottu> bug 1242572 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Trusty) "xkeyboard-config, console-setup, and ubiquity should use Super+Space for switching keyboard layouts" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242572
[13:15] <nrbrtx> bug 1244090
[13:15] <ubottu> bug 1244090 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Pressing any global keyboard shortcut causes temporary loss of focus" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244090
[13:15] <nrbrtx> bug 1270574
[13:15] <ubottu> bug 1270574 in indicator-keyboard (Ubuntu) "keyboard layout settings must be consistent between gnome-control-center keyboard, indicator-keyboard and gnome-tweak-tool and /etc/default/keyboard" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270574
[13:16] <nrbrtx> bug 1280759
[13:16] <ubottu> bug 1280759 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity shortcuts (Super+A/F/M/C/V) do not work on non-latin layout in Trusty - shortcuts are defined via keyboard layout, not the keys" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280759
[13:17] <nrbrtx> These bugs (1245137, 1242572, 1244090, 1270574, 1280759) are very annoying.
[13:18] <nrbrtx> The less annoying bugs are: bug 1263228 and bug 1280759.
[13:18] <ubottu> bug 1263228 in libindicator (Ubuntu) "icons in indicators are small (difficult to view on FullHD display and smaller than was on 12.04)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1263228
[13:18] <ubottu> bug 1280759 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity shortcuts (Super+A/F/M/C/V) do not work on non-latin layout in Trusty - shortcuts are defined via keyboard layout, not the keys" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1280759
[13:18] <nrbrtx> (i mean bug 1270579 )
[13:18] <ubottu> bug 1270579 in sysvinit (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu should have an init script for saving/restoring backlight level on laptops" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1270579
[13:19] <nrbrtx> It would be great if these bug will be fixed or confirmed by channel users (or better - ubuntu developers).
[14:34] <whitesn> is it ok to ask for troubleshooting for ubuntu 14.10 here?
[14:35] <lordievader> whitesn: Now until it is released ;)
[14:36] <whitesn> lordievader: you mean until it's stable?
[14:37] <lordievader> No, until it is released.
[14:39] <whitesn> lordievader: um, these aren't counted as releases? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/
[14:39] <lordievader> !schedule
[14:39] <ubottu> A schedule of Utopic Unicorn (14.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[14:39] <lordievader> Release is supposed to be October the 23rd.
[14:40] <whitesn> lordievader: oh alright thanks then :)
[14:48] <BluesKaj> whitesn, you can still ask your question
[14:49] <whitesn> BluesKaj: i don't know how to explain it in a proper way since i'm not fond of linux, but the problem is when i tried to install default ubuntu / gnome 14.10 both of them went to black screen when booting (after install, restart)
[14:50] <whitesn> BluesKaj: now i am trying the guest mode / live session user and it's working for GNOME (haven't tried the default package yet) on VirtualBox
[14:53] <BluesKaj> whitesn, do you intend to use ubuntu on VB rather than a regular install to a linux partition?
[14:54] <whitesn> BluesKaj: i intend to install under VB/VM for now :)
[14:57] <BluesKaj> ok, whitesn, I'm not real familiar with using a windows host with a linux guest installation...what about you lordievader ?
[15:02] <whitesn> BluesKaj: hmm, i guess i'll try the 'temporary' version for now.
[15:04] <lordievader> There are quite a few bugs in regard to VBox + Utopic.
[15:04] <lordievader> bug 1375805
[15:04] <ubottu> bug 1375805 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Lightdm fails to start in VirtualBox " [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1375805
[15:04] <lordievader> bug 1371651
[15:04] <ubottu> bug 1371651 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Daily does not boot into graphical interface after installation" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1371651
[15:06] <BluesKaj> whitesn, perhaps 14.04 rather than 14.10 would be a better choice, seeing the bugs that lordievader has pointed out could create more problems than it's worth for you
[15:08] <whitesn> well, I already tried the 14.04 before so I'm actually just curious about 14.10
[15:14] <BluesKaj> well, good luck whitesn
[15:19] <whitesn> BluesKaj: noob question: how to switch between workspaces in 14.10? I tried ctrl + alt + arrow keys and it's not working
[15:22] <lordievader> whitesn: What DE?
[15:23] <whitesn> lordievader: GNOME <- is this what it called by DE? I'm not really fond of linux..
[15:24] <lordievader> whitesn: Yes. I don't think BluesKaj or I know the shortcut in GNOME, we are KDE guys ;)
[15:24] <BluesKaj> fond or familiar ?
[15:24] <whitesn> not familiar*
[15:25] <BluesKaj> haven't used gnome in 8 yrs
[15:25] <BluesKaj> not fond means you don't really like something
[15:26] <lordievader> I've tried GNOME3 once, it was horrible. It was trying to be smart. If there's something I hate.... it's things trying to be smart.
[15:27] <whitesn> found it nevermind... hmm i don't even know which are good and what are the differences
[15:27] <whitesn> i just google a bit, and saw gnome has interesting interface and tried it ;)
[15:28] <whitesn> KDE = ubuntu default?
[15:28] <lordievader> whitesn: Kubuntu = Ubuntu + KDE. Ubuntu uses Unity.
[15:28] <BluesKaj> KDE is Kubuntu default desktop environment
[15:29] <elfy> hi lordievader BluesKaj
[15:29] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you doing?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> hi elfy , how goes it ?
[15:29] <elfy> good thanks - all done for the day :)
[15:30] <lordievader> elfy: Yayy, congratulations ;)
[15:30] <elfy> really hoping that I see no more vbox bugs this cycle too - it's getting a bit late for more :p
[15:30] <whitesn> which Kubuntu for 14.10 would you recommend to download?
[15:31] <lordievader> whitesn: Err, at this point I don't think a development release is a good option for you. Running a development release means you know what you are doing and you have basic troubleshooting skills.
[15:31] <whitesn> lordievader: so it's better to start from older version?
[15:32] <lordievader> whitesn: 14.04, the current release.
[15:32] <whitesn> i have no idea which distro and which version to start with, i'm not using it for depth development purposes though
[15:32] <whitesn> lordievader: and Kubuntu distro?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> whitesn, 14.10 is still not an official release, kubuntu 14.04 is a good choice
[15:34] <whitesn> alright thanks for the helps, i'll try it out
[15:34] <BluesKaj> whitesn, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04.1/release/
[15:36] <whitesn> BluesKaj: got it!
[15:37] <BluesKaj> whitesn, have fun :)
[15:58] <creichen> I seem to have an installation of a recent (Unicorn) `Ubuntu Studio' installation now (trying to re-install an MBR on an existing system).  However, I can't run `onboard' from my existing partition, and I don't see any on-screen keyboards for this `Ubuntu Studio' thing either.  Any suggestions for enabling keyboard input?
[15:59] <creichen> (Might be because onboard is (apparently?) a python program?  Not sure.)
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[17:12] <BluesKaj> rest the router firmware, had to reset the IPs in ssh and ssh keys in known_hosts
[17:13] <BluesKaj> reset
[17:17] <BluesKaj> anyway gotta take a walk to the mailbox
[18:10] <vitimiti> Hi
[18:11] <elfy> hi vitimiti
[18:11] <lordievader> o/
[18:11] <vitimiti> \o
[18:13] <lordievader> How are you this evening?
[18:14] <vitimiti> For off-topic #ubuntu-offtopic has to be used
[18:15] <lordievader> ... I know it is somewhat offtopic, but some social interaction should be tolerated imo. Improves bonding between testers.
[18:17] <vitimiti> Well, I'm kinda nervous, waiting for an important call from university
[18:17] <lordievader> vitimiti: Good luck ;)
[18:20] <vitimiti> thxc
[18:20] <vitimiti> -c*
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[20:58] <AMDPentium> !ops | help channel emergency
[20:58] <ubottu> help channel emergency: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang
[21:01] <lordievader> That seems rather pointless... Calling the ops when your banned...
[21:02] <k1l_> he seeks attention. seems to have a poor life
[21:02] <lordievader> Suppose he does...
[21:22] <jtaylor> hm is the person who had the docker problem recently still here?
[21:22] <jtaylor> now I have it too :(