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| darkxst | robert_ancell, hey, if you have a chance could you take a look at my latest g-s-d/g-c-c MP's that should unblock gnome-desktop transition | 00:20 |
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| robert_ancell | darkxst, I reviewed all the ones I saw - which ones are outstanding? | 00:47 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, I filed 2 this morning | 00:48 |
| robert_ancell | darkxst, got the links? | 00:48 |
| darkxst | https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/utopic/gnome-settings-daemon/lp1372346-nodatetime/+merge/236639 | 00:48 |
| darkxst | https://code.launchpad.net/~darkxst/ubuntu/utopic/gnome-control-center/lp1372346-noautotz | 00:48 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, also bug 1376069, you missed that when you patched it for unity-control-center? | 00:57 |
| ubot5 | bug 1376069 in gnome-media (Ubuntu) "Recommend unity-control-center | gnome-control-center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1376069 | 00:57 |
| robert_ancell | ah, good catch | 00:57 |
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| robert_ancell | darkxst, so, does the datetime plugin build now? | 01:43 |
| darkxst | robert_ancell, no, I disabled it from building | 02:01 |
| darkxst | it was new code, so couldnt just revert it back to geoclue | 02:04 |
| darkxst | its only really used for the automatic timezone stuff anyway (atleast in 3.12) | 02:04 |
| pitti | Good morning | 04:39 |
| pitti | darkxst, Laney: hmm, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/3.12.2-1ubuntu1 is stuck on depwait on geoclue-2.0 | 06:19 |
| pitti | that's in universe | 06:19 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:10 |
| larsu | hi willcooke! | 07:20 |
| willcooke | o/ | 07:20 |
| pitti | hey willcooke, hey larsu | 07:29 |
| pitti | oh, is didrocks already on holidays in Japan? | 07:29 |
| willcooke | pitti, yup | 07:29 |
| willcooke | oh, pitti - I was talking with jpds about this yesterday: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=33461 | 07:30 |
| ubot5 | bugs.freedesktop.org bug 33461 in general "Allow extra mount options from udev rules" [Enhancement,New] | 07:30 |
| willcooke | pitti, are you going to be in DC? Can we have a chat about it? | 07:31 |
| pitti | willcooke: yes and yes :) | 07:31 |
| darkxst | pitti, hey | 07:35 |
| larsu | hi pitti :) | 07:35 |
| darkxst | fix for that is in unapproved | 07:35 |
| willcooke | thx pitti | 07:36 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:36 |
| willcooke | hey seb128 | 07:36 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:36 |
| pitti | seb128: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-rtm/ FYI :) | 07:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, Laney pointed that out yesterday | 07:37 |
| darkxst | pitti or seb128, can you bump g-s-d and g-c-c from unapproved? | 07:41 |
| seb128 | bump? | 07:41 |
| pitti | darkxst: oh nice, thanks for fixing the geoclue issue | 07:41 |
| pitti | darkxst: so supposedly in V we want to drop geoclue and promote geoclue-2.0? | 07:42 |
| pitti | darkxst: formally I'm not allowed to accept the packages, but these are quite obvious, I'll do it | 07:43 |
| darkxst | pitti, that would be nice, but geoclue-2.0 drops the plugins and perhaps a few other bits. | 07:44 |
| seb128 | pitti, you can wait some 15min for Laney to be on otherwise | 07:46 |
| darkxst | gnome-shell-pomodoro also need a no change rebuild | 07:47 |
| pitti | darkxst: for libgnome-desktop? | 07:48 |
| darkxst | pitti, yes | 07:49 |
| darkxst | its a gnome-shell extensions, but it actually has a program that links against libgnome-desktop as well | 07:49 |
| pitti | darkxst: according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt quite a few more | 07:49 |
| pitti | like mailnag | 07:49 |
| pitti | darkxst: anyway, I'll upload these two | 07:51 |
| darkxst | pitti, mailnag is a python script | 07:51 |
| darkxst | ? | 07:51 |
| darkxst | quite a few of the things are blocked by g-s-d/u-s-d not being installable though | 07:52 |
| pitti | oh hmm, then it's uninstallable because of something else in between | 07:52 |
| pitti | yeah, let's wait for these two then | 07:52 |
| pitti | (pomodoro still building locally) | 07:53 |
| darkxst | Also I don't know why cinnamon deps on gnome-settings-daemon, when it has its own cinnamon-settings-daemon | 07:53 |
| seb128 | they don't? | 07:58 |
| seb128 | or likely a bug | 07:59 |
| darkxst | seb128, cinnamon package has a build-dep on gnome-settings-daemon | 08:00 |
| seb128 | it might need the schemas for something? | 08:00 |
| Laney | hallo | 08:03 |
| larsu | hi Laney! | 08:03 |
| darkxst | seb128, its actually a binary-dep gnome-settings-daemon (>= 2.91.5.1), so they would not even get the schemas | 08:03 |
| darkxst | probably just left over from old packaging | 08:04 |
| seb128 | remember, that package comes from Debian which doesn't split the schemas | 08:04 |
| darkxst | hey Laney | 08:04 |
| Laney | hey larsu ;-) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, good morning, how are you? | 08:04 |
| Laney | gsd sure would get the schemas transitively, or else that would be pretty broken | 08:05 |
| Laney | seb128: good, although we didn't do very well at the pub quiz yesterday >:( | 08:05 |
| Laney | you? | 08:05 |
| Laney | darkxst: thanks for the fixes | 08:06 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 08:07 |
| darkxst | Laney, np | 08:27 |
| Laney | erm | 08:31 |
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| Laney | looks like gnome-desktop3 just went in | 09:12 |
| seb128 | nice | 09:12 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 09:12 |
| larsu | neat | 09:14 |
| darkxst | great! thanks for the help pushing it through ;) | 09:39 |
| darkxst | Laney, pitti, seb128 ^ | 09:49 |
| Laney | yw, thanks for the work too | 09:49 |
| Laney | enjoy the shiny(ish) | 09:49 |
| pitti | darkxst: thanks for your work! | 09:50 |
| Laney | Someone remind me how key grabbing is supposed to work for media keys in u-s-d? | 10:33 |
| Laney | I'm trying to debug my non-working keys and I see that we don't start the legacy keygrabber there | 10:34 |
| Laney | if I make it start then the keys work | 10:34 |
| Laney | I don't know why it worked before because this code path was the same in trusty | 10:35 |
| Laney | oh | 10:44 |
| Laney | it moved to Unity didn't it | 10:44 |
| darkxst | Laney, yes Unity grew its on keygrabber, however I though the legacy keygrabber was being kept in u-s-d? | 10:46 |
| Laney | not for Ubuntu sessions | 10:47 |
| darkxst | no for 'legacy' sessions like flashback | 10:47 |
| Laney | indeed | 10:47 |
| Laney | but my problem is in a unity session | 10:48 |
| Laney | so not the legacy code | 10:48 |
| darkxst | Laney, oh, no idea then, I thought you run some non-unity DE? | 10:48 |
| Laney | different machine | 10:48 |
| Laney | desktop is unity | 10:48 |
| Laney | darkxst: is it u-s-d -> WM keygrabber over dbus? | 10:49 |
| Laney | looks like it | 10:51 |
| darkxst | Laney, I am not sure how unity does it, but in GNOME, I think its the other way around | 10:52 |
| Laney | there's methods on org.gnome.Shell on the session bus to grab and ungrab | 10:54 |
| darkxst | Laney, yes, but I think the WM takes the grab before g-s-d knows about it | 11:03 |
| darkxst | though its been a while since I looked at that code | 11:05 |
| pitti | Sweetsha1k: "Jenkins Fixed - utopic-adt-libreoffice 301" -- wohoo!! | 11:08 |
| pitti | first time ever | 11:08 |
| pitti | (in utopic) | 11:09 |
| Laney | bad news, now you have to keep it passing :p | 11:09 |
| pitti | good news, now we automatically hold back new uploads that break LO! | 11:10 |
| pitti | Laney: *tsk*, you have a *lot* to learn about selling stuff :) | 11:10 |
| Sweetsha1k | pitti: \o/ | 11:11 |
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| Laney | :) | 11:11 |
| Laney | Trevinho: yo, how can I get unity to print out its LOG_DEBUG messages? | 11:11 |
| Sweetshark | the bad news are only half as bad once you take into account the good news. | 11:12 |
| Sweetshark | and hey: enabling mergedlibs completely b0rked LibreOffice base, but autopkgtests completed just fine still :/ | 11:14 |
| Sweetshark | hohum, although this solves only half the problem as I assume its easier to make LibreOffice FTBFS with an update, than to break the deployed binaries. | 11:15 |
| Sweetshark | but yeah, good stuff. | 11:16 |
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| Laney | aaaaaaaaaha | 12:01 |
| Laney | u-c-c bug, looking like | 12:02 |
| seb128 | the keybinding one? | 12:02 |
| Laney | ya | 12:03 |
| seb128 | it writes a buggy config? | 12:03 |
| Laney | possibly | 12:03 |
| seb128 | it works if you use g-c-c? | 12:04 |
| seb128 | or how did you get to the conclusion that it's u-c-c? | 12:04 |
| Laney | I can fix it up in gsettings to work | 12:05 |
| Laney | but... | 12:17 |
| Laney | gcc writes the same thing | 12:17 |
| * Laney checks if shell works | 12:17 | |
| seb128 | could be the compiz/unity parser being overstrict on the syntax? | 12:18 |
| seb128 | what's the difference between the non working and your hand fixed version? | 12:18 |
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| Trevinho | Laney: UNITY_LOG_SEVERITY="<root>error;unity.your.component=debug" | 12:50 |
| Trevinho | Laney: or just set everything to debug, but it's probably a mess with that | 12:50 |
| Trevinho | so better to set a proper filter | 12:50 |
| Laney | darkxst: I think you want to take https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit?h=gnome-3-12&id=db497a2ecfccc8ad9284353826f32fc75ca78ecd into shell | 13:55 |
| Laney | media keys are broken now because you have the gsd half | 13:55 |
| dgadomski | hello everyone | 13:59 |
| dgadomski | Trevinho: regarding bug 1125442: what is the policy for adding config options? can I just add it to metadata/core.xml.in or should I do it via ubuntu-specific patch in debian/patches? | 14:00 |
| ubot5 | bug 1125442 in Compiz "Always Visible and On Top Windows Steal Focus on Workspace Switch" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1125442 | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | dgadomski: hi | 14:00 |
| Trevinho | dgadomski: no, just change the files... No patches needed | 14:01 |
| dgadomski | Trevinho: tks, I will make a merge request after testing this a bit | 14:02 |
| Laney | darkxst: oh, lolz, you already revert that | 14:02 |
| Trevinho | dgadomski: nice | 14:04 |
| Laney | okay now I'm inside compiz ... | 14:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, nice! | 15:06 |
| Laney | NO | 15:06 |
| Trevinho | :) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, I wonder if we should restore the gtk line wrapping hack before release, we said we might if there was still issues and we still have some | 15:17 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^ | 15:17 |
| larsu | do we still have issues? | 15:17 |
| seb128 | we do | 15:18 |
| larsu | you mean the label < 640px thing, right? | 15:18 |
| larsu | seb128: a lot? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | yes | 15:18 |
| seb128 | not sure "a lot" I can see at least 3 cases regularly on my desktop with my limited use of UIs | 15:18 |
| seb128 | 1- | 15:18 |
| Laney | can we patch them? | 15:19 |
| seb128 | 1. go in nautilus in a folder with image, select a bunch, do right click -> properties | 15:19 |
| seb128 | 2. gedit, open a new instance type something, open a tab, type something, try to close gedit | 15:19 |
| seb128 | 3. the polkit dialogs | 15:19 |
| seb128 | e.g trying to unlock the user settings panel | 15:20 |
| larsu | I'm guessing most of these will be fixed upstream already | 15:20 |
| larsu | so it doesn't make much sense for us to pull in all those patches | 15:20 |
| larsu | I sy let's put the gtk hack in and remove it right at the start of next cycle | 15:20 |
| seb128 | Laney, we always can, but I assume that since it didn't happen until now it's not going to be done by magical way before freeze | 15:21 |
| * larsu prefers happy users in stable releases, and this is something we can easily spot | 15:21 | |
| seb128 | larsu, +1 | 15:21 |
| Laney | who said magical? | 15:21 |
| Laney | but what evs, I don't mind | 15:21 |
| seb128 | well, it didn't happen in a whole cycle, why would that change now? | 15:21 |
| larsu | I don't mind == +1, right? | 15:21 |
| Laney | ?!?!?!?! | 15:22 |
| larsu | :P | 15:22 |
| Laney | because we might decide to do the work? | 15:22 |
| seb128 | if that was annoying people enough for them to do the work that would have happened | 15:22 |
| Laney | and I don't understand why having a fix upstream means we would be less likely to have a fix | 15:22 |
| seb128 | I fixed a bunch | 15:22 |
| Laney | these arguments are weird to me | 15:22 |
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| seb128 | but it's just not high priority enough to spend day on those | 15:23 |
| seb128 | days | 15:23 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, my argument is that clearly it's not an itch people are wanting the scratch | 15:23 |
| seb128 | so sure I could start assigning bugs and we can force some action to happen | 15:23 |
| seb128 | but I don't think it's high enough importance to do that | 15:24 |
| larsu | Laney: we've fixed quite a few of those upstream. It's just that there are a lot of them (I hadn't seen any of the ones seb pointed to) | 15:24 |
| seb128 | so I suggest we do the easy thing and put the workaround back and let people focus on their work | 15:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, can you confirm those I described? | 15:24 |
| larsu | seb128: all except (3), because I don't know how to summon one of those | 15:26 |
| Laney | pkexec ls | 15:26 |
| seb128 | larsu, as I wrote, go to settings->user and click "unlock" | 15:26 |
| larsu | seb128: yes. | 15:26 |
| seb128 | k | 15:26 |
| larsu | I'm fine with fixing those before release, but I'm afraid there might be more of them | 15:26 |
| seb128 | yeah, that was my issue as well | 15:28 |
| seb128 | we clearly have such bugs | 15:28 |
| seb128 | like I just listed a few ones that annoyed me | 15:28 |
| seb128 | but I'm sure there are more | 15:28 |
| seb128 | and since we didn't have action on those it's clearly something we didn't actively look at resolving | 15:28 |
| seb128 | ok, another one | 15:31 |
| Laney | Actually I would support doing it before release if we actually fix ones we find | 15:31 |
| seb128 | - software-properties, do a change, close it, the dialog to tell you to refresh the apt database | 15:32 |
| Laney | Refusing to fix easily resolvable bugs makes me kind of sad | 15:32 |
| seb128 | Laney, I can't justify fixing those being higher priority that e.g touch rtm work | 15:32 |
| seb128 | but if we have people who have nothing to do that is higher priority and want to do that, sure | 15:32 |
| larsu | seb128: let's start by making bugs to track that we need to do this? | 15:33 |
| larsu | that's better than just adding the workround | 15:33 |
| seb128 | you want me to open bugs about each case and tag them? | 15:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, it's not "refusing to fix bugs", it's just that adding back the hack to gtk doesn't create any issue and bring us to the same user visible state with less work | 15:35 |
| seb128 | we are going to get those fixes over time with updates and sync from Debian | 15:35 |
| seb128 | then we can drop the workaround and we overall spend less time on the issue to get at the same result | 15:35 |
| seb128 | being proactive in backporting individual fixes to utopic doesn't give us any advantage | 15:36 |
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| === lan3y is now known as Laney | ||
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| * willcooke going for some food | 16:51 | |
| === ChrisTownsend1 is now known as ChrisTownsend | ||
| * willcooke -> EOD - g'night | 18:12 | |
| robert_ancell | mterry, Do you happen to know what might be being updated for a user every 300s on the phone? bug 1376357 | 21:08 |
| ubot5 | bug 1376357 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm writing the same DEBUG message to /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1376357 | 21:08 |
| willcooke | qengho, still about? | 21:10 |
| qengho | willcooke: yep1 | 21:10 |
| qengho | Only 1700 here. | 21:10 |
| willcooke | I know you like to start at like 0400 :) | 21:11 |
| qengho | Some days. Not today. | 21:11 |
| qengho | What's up? | 21:11 |
| willcooke | could you do me a favour and check and reply to my email before EOD | 21:11 |
| willcooke | I need your blessing before tomorrow my time | 21:11 |
| willcooke | sure it's already on your list, but just want to make sure that tomorrow is smooth :) | 21:12 |
| willcooke | also want to make sure you can access the gdoc | 21:13 |
| qengho | willcooke: looks good to me. | 21:13 |
| willcooke | qengho, sweet! thanks man! | 21:13 |
| * willcooke goes back to work on more important things | 21:13 | |
| willcooke | http://www.harbourbrewing.com/product/-india-pale-ale.php | 21:13 |
| willcooke | g'night | 21:19 |
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