[01:45] hello? [01:45] anyone here? [01:45] yes [01:45] I have a VERY specific ubuntu question === zmoylan-2i is now known as zmoylan-pi [01:45] can [01:45] and i can't find the answer anywhere [01:46] can't hurt to try [01:46] Is there a way to empty a windows recycle bin through a bootable ubuntu flash drive? [01:47] when does that scenario even come up? [01:47] In a TV Production class where your tricaster is lagging incredibly because you have 300+ gigs in the recycle bin [01:48] but you can't access it because the computer crashes every time you exit the program [01:48] and the program opens on startup [01:48] I was thinking of booting into safe mode and trying it that way, but I'm not sure if that'd work [01:48] press shift while starting windows prevents windows loading programs iirc [01:48] ... [01:49] is this really a thing? [01:49] I've never heard of this [01:49] oh my god [01:49] i used it in windows 3 :-) i'll check to see if it still works :-) [01:49] I think you've solved all my problems [01:49] I just checked, it works on XP [01:50] also, just in general, should I start using ubuntu as my daily OS? Like is it worth getting into? [01:50] this is why i hate gui's a lot of the otions are invisible unless you know the secret combo [01:50] or are is there a better starting linux distro? [01:50] well we might be biased here a smidge :-D [01:50] lol [01:51] what advantages would I get from using it? [01:51] like why Ubuntu > Windows? [01:52] security is better, runs on cheaper hardware, more sane software [01:53] hmm I see [01:54] MiningForMac: never... ever set software to autorun. [01:54] but with everything running natively on windows nowadays, are those pros really worth it? [01:54] I don't, my teacher did [01:54] educate him or her ;) [01:54] the only reason we have it is to stream our morning announcements [01:54] yes, i get to decide what runs on my system and when. [01:55] it outputs to a tv channel only within the school and an internet stream [01:55] hmm, that does seem mighty nice [01:55] I always see ubuntu and want to get into it, but see no point in doing so [01:56] like I get that it's a LOT more customizable and secure [01:56] runs on cheaper hardware? that might be true of xubuntu or lubuntu but hasn't been true of ubuntu for years. [01:56] and it seems great [01:56] buy a rasp pi and learn linux without having to risk a parents laptop and they're cheap. also robotics are good on the pi [01:56] but idk, I have no reason to switch from windows, although I want a reason [01:56] hmm [01:56] that might be a good idea actually [01:57] i'm now looking at getting my second pi to build a netbook/pda :-) [01:59] nn [01:59] happy October \o [02:00] let the christmas adverts commence [02:01] so glad i don't use broadcast TV [02:01] i ended up with my first tv in years as i had no hdmi monitor to connect to so i connected it to scart tv :-) [02:02] the rasp pi that is [06:06] morning boys and girls. [06:18] morning [06:18] morning SuperMatt [06:20] so, I was in Italy for the last week. Shellshock? [06:22] moin [06:22] moin Myrtti [06:23] SuperMatt: everything more or less, fixed and patched up. [06:23] but I don't know what it did or how it worked === msm is now known as Guest21018 [08:21] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f51yPfhQZn8 [08:24] SuperMatt: you probably owe your colleagues a beer [08:42] probably [08:42] but lots of people on my team were out when heartbleed struck, so I got my own back this time [09:06] Good morning all; happy Vegetarian Day! :-D [09:29] SuperMatt: Why were you in a trench in Italy? [09:38] hardly in a trench [09:39] https://plus.google.com/u/0/104760950939866700163/posts/56ekTv3dsyB?pid=6065149204656318674&oid=104760950939866700163 [09:53] Opening your link crashed my Xorg SuperMatt :D [09:53] * diplo is trying again [09:54] ah so it was trying to scroll around a panorama :/ [09:58] who wants a £35 xbox voucher code? [09:59] JamesTait: Yay I love Vegetarians, mind you I like them most with roast potatoes, peas, yorkshire puddings and gravy [09:59] Me too, davmor2, as long as they're of the bovine variety. ;) [10:00] JamesTait: :) [10:02] * zmoylan-pi hogs the bacon [10:02] JamesTait: I don't mind bacon sandwiches either but I understand their omnivores [10:02] they're even [10:03] JamesTait: and stuff vegetarian at christmas is a must [10:03] pigs turn rubbish into nicest of meats [10:03] stuffed [10:05] I took some bacon out of the freezer this morning, so I can have bacon sandwiches for lunch. [10:10] ali1234: my son probably would. he never has enough minecraft skins ☻ === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:39] i need to learn how to microwave bacon [10:40] Today I learned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velology [10:40] microwave bacon is ok in a pinch but it's not the same [10:40] foobarry: why not use a frying pan? [10:41] popey: seems a little late to start a collection :P [10:41] because the last time he tried to microwave a frying pan it got smoky :-p [10:41] * Seeker` sighs at zmoylan-pi [10:41] * zmoylan-pi grins at Seeker` [10:42] heh [10:43] popey: hows things? [10:43] great [10:44] see this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2040419302/matchstick-the-streaming-stick-built-on-firefox-os [10:45] popey: chromecast without the chrome? [10:45] i like grilled bacon best [10:45] wondered if microwave bacon tasted any different [10:45] fried bacon requires too much washing up [10:46] foobarry: i agree [10:46] microwave bacon is ok [10:46] foobarry: ah. I see you're missing someone to do washing up for you :P [10:46] but you can't get it crispy ime [10:46] which probably also means you don't have anyone to cook bacon for you either :( [11:43] If you have bupa private health care, can't you use NHS things anymore or you can? Because I think bupa care is free at my job. [11:44] yeah you can still use NHS [11:44] As you will still pay your National insurance even though you pay for private [11:44] of course you can, yes. [11:45] only the freshest leeches will be used :-p [11:45] popey: I noticed you added me on steam, but under my alt account I use for catching cheaters, I added you on my main one :) [11:45] heh [11:46] ah ok, I'll just sign up for that then. [11:49] I think I broke uplink, I started playing yesterday morning, I got the bare essentials, hacked every single bank account in the game, cleaned out the ones with any money in them, fast forwarded through the story line, put all the money I stole on the stock market, I now have 30 million credits :P [11:49] ujjain: bupa don't offer comprehensive care, so you *can't* use them for most things [11:50] * directhex catches Azelphur, locks him up [11:50] hehe [11:50] directhex: I'm thinking about cleaning out every single account in the game regardless of value, just to see what the news says. [11:50] so the only good ething about bupa is that I can go to a private hospital for the ENT doctor? not even sure about that [11:51] I had an operation on my ear 18 months ago, better care ewould be better I guess, [11:51] you can also skip queues for ops if needed [11:51] and maybe get private rooms [11:52] ujjain, My perception is that private has 2 advantages i) nicer accommodation ii) shorter queues [11:52] ah wow, that's nothing, only good if you are operated on [11:52] ujjain, But aside from that, you'll be treated by NHS doctors, often in NHS facilities [11:52] shorter queues for everything, right? [11:52] ah right [11:52] shorter queues can be beneficial to some [11:52] also, you may get drugs that aren't available on nhs [11:53] although queues are quite crappy on NHS, but I had a doctor only working on fridays, and on holiday for a month and they told me I couldn't switch doctors either, argh [11:53] The key phrase is that it's "affecting your ability to work" [11:53] ah nice popey [11:53] so like cocaine? [11:53] lolz [11:53] Cocaine is available on NHS! It's routinely used in opthalmic surgery. [11:53] and they might pay for more boots drugs, right? [11:53] instead of paying yourself? [11:53] like expensive treatments that the NHS can't afford or choose not to use [11:54] yeah, right [11:54] I heard bupa paid 2k to people so they would use NHS instead of them for operation [11:54] i haven't had to go private for anything so far in my life and I'm 42. [11:54] perhaps in 20 years that might be different [11:54] * awilkins likewise [11:55] and you have paid monthly for many years something like 50-100 per month? [11:55] My only operation involving an anaesthetic has been my wisdom teeth which I needed out in my early 30s [11:55] i got bupa to pay for physio when my shoulder hurt [11:55] I waited 6 weeks for the op, which I didn't think too onerous (although they were really ruining my ability to work) === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:56] I have a new job and if they offer me private healthcare I will seriously think about turning it down, just on the grounds that I think it harms the NHS [11:56] * awilkins has worked for the NHS much of his working life === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:57] That said, if the Tory plan to destroy the NHS comes to fruition, I am not so stupid as to cut off my nose to spite my face === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [11:58] popey, I think the opposite is true in some cases about expensive treatment - BUPA don't want to foot the bill for complex and uncommon surgeries and will defer the cases to the NHS [11:59] ujjain: i dont have private health care, never have [11:59] Private health companies in general want the common, predictable, assembly-line medicine they can make a sure profit margin on [11:59] ah right. [11:59] ujjain: but you can on-demand go private for some things [11:59] yeah, I've heard, they given you a better price if you say you have no privatea health insurance and have to pay yourself [11:59] e.g. my father in law has back surgery, he went private for that [12:00] ujjain, In the case of the USA, you'd best be prepared to negotiate (and that's one of the major roles your insurer fills) [12:00] US seems like a nightmare when it comes to costs of health care and education. [12:01] Yes, it is. By design, I feel. [12:02] http://www.uta.edu/faculty/story/2311/Misc/2013,2,26,MedicalCostsDemandAndGreed.pdf [12:02] the NHS is brilliant. [12:03] There have been many enormous protest marches in the last few years over what the incumbent government has done to the NHS [12:03] Sadly you don't see them reported on in mainstream media [12:04] I was at one in Manchester last year. Oxford road (if you know it) was nothing but a sea of banners from the heart of the city, through the university district, down to the park near the Royal Infirmary. [12:04] i've had surgery on the NHS and i've had surgery at a private hospital as a private patient -- bar being given a drug menu for postoperative analgesics i can't say that the quality of care was in any way or form better when i went private [12:04] Over 50,000 people by the police count [12:04] They gave that protest a 2 minute slot on the local news, and shot the crowd across a narrow street from a low angle to make it look like a mothers meeting. [12:09] A lot of people truly love the NHS, but I haven't been that impressed by my GP and hospital, they ignore phone calls always. [12:11] Having worked on the clinical side - they are doing their best with what they have. [12:12] What they have, sadly, has been greatly curtailed by the government. [12:18] ujjain: as in, your calls are not being answered or you do not receive a call back? [12:18] lnot being answered [12:19] i have to try 5 times a day [12:19] for days [12:19] at least the GP is close to my house, 50 meters and waiting time is <30min, so pretty acceptable still [12:19] just the phone communication bothers me, and 2 month queue for ent appointment [12:21] *nod* yeah, i find with my GP surgery i have to make sure to call within a specific window in the early morning if i want to get through/make an appointment, etc. [12:21] sorry you're having to wait so long to see an ENT specialist [12:22] yeah, 5 weeks until hospital processed the referreal [12:22] the only thing that really grates at me is how slow it takes to get medical records from surgery a to surgery b when moving! [12:22] then another 5-6 weeks, etc. [12:22] (i moved from surrey to somerset in march -- my GP has still not received a copy of my medical records from my previous GP surgery) [12:24] ah yeah [12:24] in holland my GP lost it, :p [12:24] so it's not a just UK thing haha :p [12:27] haha [12:46] Can you withdraw from your pension? I'm thinking of adding 5% of my income to my pension, as it's taxed 40% right now anyway, just wondering if I could withdraw some if I needed, even if it'd cost 40% === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:48] I've no idea how things work in here but nothing stops you from using different investment/savings instruments... [12:49] If you break these rules you'll be charged 55 per cent tax. And if you don't tell us about it in good time, you may have to pay penalties on top. [12:49] Even if you've reached 55 there are still rules as to how you can take your pension pot without being liable to a tax charge. [12:49] uh, [12:50] I'm in Finnish taxation and national insurance so I'm still using my Finnish accounts and savings methods. [12:50] I'm putting 90€ on voluntary pension scheme a month, and 75€ each to two different investment funds a month [12:50] aforementioned I can't touch [12:50] ah right. [12:50] but things are probably different in UK. [12:59] excuse me i appear to have stepped into #finance-advice instead of #ubuntu-uk... [12:59] hang on a minute O_O [13:00] :o [13:00] isn't linux cool! you can compile kernels! [13:00] That's what I like about this channel. Discussion of Ubuntu is almost never topic of the day. [13:00] :D [13:00] finance advice is standard acceptable chat [13:00] what [13:00] yeah i get tired of the nazi like regime in #ubuntu :/ [13:00] who is guest [13:00] er [13:00] now now. [13:01] christ who stole my nick === Guest3848 is now known as arsenip [13:01] lets not equate irc to systematic destruction of people [13:01] :P [13:01] and to be fair you can be somewhat grumpy in there [13:01] haha, yes, very true [13:02] last night there was a bot/troll that joined in both #ubuntu asking for when the new version would be out - and in #xbmc at the same time asking the same [13:02] i can't handle the ubuntu chan [13:02] :< [13:02] it's a wonder that there are people out there who actually find nothing better to do than to waste time like that [13:02] I could, but I haven't wanted to for months [13:03] i still like to help but the idiot critical mass gets too much at times [13:03] welcome to the internet :s [13:03] i caiv enever been one for rigid rules from opers :p [13:03] I had to stop when I couldn't tell which side of the triangle had the most idiots. [13:04] arsenip: ;) [13:04] arsenip: opers or ops? [13:04] ops [13:04] :) [13:04] I still have sympathies for everyone in #ubuntu [13:04] I just can't do it right now. [13:04] now to figure out how to get my nick back [13:04] pretty sure it's protected [13:04] in fact, this is the only Ubuntu channel I can withstand at the moment. [13:04] i like your current nick [13:05] it makes me smile [13:05] XD [13:05] it was all about arsensen [13:05] totally has nothing to do with me having come up with it all those years ago :P [13:06] tbh Myrtti - most heavily technical channels i find have similar stalin'esque regimes controlling them [13:06] parsenip, daftykins [13:06] :D [13:06] arsenip: if they're as big as #ubuntu, I can't see how they could even be anything else [13:06] why is it - when i forget to log in to nickserv - it happily forces me to change my nick [13:06] but when someone steals my nick ... noooo nickserv nowhere to be seen [13:06] not going to detail how different ops enforce the rules [13:07] but still [13:07] christel, you're in Somerset now ? [13:07] arsenip: XD [13:07] diplo: yesss! [13:07] Myrtti - ive never been one to subscribe to IRC hierarchy, i still work on the assumption irc is like IRL [13:07] i'm in the chew valley, surrounded by cows [13:07] (quite literally surrounded by cows) [13:07] Where abouts? If you .. beat me [13:07] :D [13:07] moved to a teeeny little village called compton dano [13:07] christel: i bet they're not even Guernsey golds [13:07] dando* [13:07] absolutely LOVE it here [13:08] #ubuntu is a motorway, #ubuntu-uk is a country lane [13:08] ^ [13:08] Ah I know it! Not toooo far away [13:08] we should beer! [13:08] Sounds good, I'm in Trowbridge, just the other side of Bath [13:08] :D [13:08] i had my first pint last night since the hospital ;_; that is to say, being in hospital... they didn't have a bar at the hospital [13:08] foobarry: I've not had it explained better [13:09] daftykins: i wish they had bars at hoospitals [13:09] applause to you. [13:09] i'd go there a lot more! [13:09] XD [13:09] * foobarry bows [13:09] "another tumble down the stairs christel? very well here's your booze delivery for breakfast" [13:09] Why have you moved christel ? Work ? [13:10] i doth not understandings. Apparently i'm always arsenip. makes no sensing to me. [13:10] brainfart. [13:10] i think most non-serious injuries would dissapear if ther were a bar in hospital A&E's [13:12] diplo: i work from home so i took work with me -- gareth is from bristol originally so we decided to head back to the west country to be closer to family before david started school :) [13:15] some of my friends over here are still using the old ADSL2+ service that's only 16/0.75Mb - i went to look at ones setup last night, where the router said it was only syncing at 8Mb [13:15] hilariously they had two routers networked together by cable, so you got online only if the primary one connected to the DSL service responded quicker to the DHCP request [13:16] quickly killed DHCP on the second once i worked out what was going on :D [13:16] then i took to the half-speed situation, firmware updates... current: v1.02.xx - new: v2.02.xx [13:16] 8Mb turned into 13Mb with 2 minutes effort \o/ [13:18] Ah nice, better schools here than down in the SE :D [13:18] diplo: he's going to marksbury which is brilliant :) [13:18] so i am chuffed with that! [13:18] Just down the road for you then [13:19] yeah, not at all far -- they even do a compton dando mini-bus service so we don't even have to drop/collect, he gets picked up on the doorstep [13:20] and he absolutely LOVES school (fingers crossed he continues to love it for some time seeing how he's got another 12 years to go!) [13:20] Blimey great service! How old is he now, last time I saw him was at popeys BBQ [13:21] 4 and a half! just started reception :) [13:21] cor i don't envy anyone starting the grind right over [13:22] its less of a grind at 4yo :p [13:22] https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10646741_10152651497210937_3153305172141467762_n.jpg?oh=2af3b7353b953a1f9f96f8d14e1896c3&oe=54CF0FDD&__gda__=1418241160_e1a3514256e041e4fe227ad080c6103d first day of school, waiting for the bus in the morning! :) [13:22] diplo: how old are your boys now? :) [13:22] awwww [13:23] Harry is 6 and Tom just turned 8 on Sunday [13:23] God he's changed! [13:23] i know! he is growing up so fast! [13:23] * diplo doesn't do very well on photos, see if I can find my kiddos [13:26] https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10509479_628989883863606_4386114759863573979_n.jpg?oh=18b94b0834b61d445c173d14e5a2a913&oe=54C666C0&__gda__=1421275420_ac2ad2bee6e436717dcf5c698ef0318b [13:26] That's Thomas [13:26] AWW :D [13:27] oh how times are terrible [13:27] i'd feel wrong for opening a link of someone elses kids [13:27] just because its a computer [13:27] goddamn mainstream media. [13:27] https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/251806_316855118410419_39672016_n.jpg?oh=8730aa2b125b47cb79c07de5ac09cc92&oe=54C182B1&__gda__=1421268856_f824e45e28d62b79ab72d5648437ade0 [13:27] :D [13:27] arsenip: i understand what you mean, strange isn't it [13:27] yep [13:27] That was last year, I can't find uploaded copies [13:27] oh they are lovely :D [13:28] kids are awesome [13:28] especially 3-6yo [13:28] daftykins, arsenip : Image this, I'm a single dad and quite often I can have up to 12-15 kids come round my house to play, majority of them girls [13:28] under 3 = crying, over 7 = bratty [13:28] I'm pretrified most of the times [13:28] lol diplo [13:28] blurg [13:28] you should be able to apply for a "please dont investigate me" license [13:28] Not of the kids, more of the young girls in a house with a male [13:29] diplo: you must be gold to single mums ;) *ahem* anyway enough of that [13:29] So each time a 'new friend' turns up I go to the parents house and let them know who I am, give them mobile and everything and text them to let them know their kids are with me [13:29] diplo: that's very wise [13:29] arsenip: you should meet my daughter! she doesn't do crying -- she does a lot of GRINNING LIKE A MANIAC and shouting (happily) loudly [13:29] admittedly i do suspect she might be a bit simple [13:29] I'm much more easy going than all the other parents it seems, so my house is like a magnet to kids [13:30] because i am sure she isnt supposed to be so bloody cheerful all the time [13:30] christel: d'aww, a little hellraiser in the budding [13:30] https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/251806_316855118410419_39672016_n.jpg?oh=8730aa2b125b47cb79c07de5ac09cc92&oe=54C182B1&__gda__=1421268856_f824e45e28d62b79ab72d5648437ade0 [13:30] lol made me laugh christel [13:30] sounds like a good kid to have. [13:30] christel: time to consider getting a shotgun, then [13:31] she has just worked out that whole walking thing -- i fear my life is about to become much more complicated! [13:31] :) [13:31] christel: you need to start plotting your productivity on a graph [13:31] christel : +1 - I always say to parents you shouldn't really wish them to walk [13:31] Your life will become even more hard :D [13:32] christel: no that is what prison cell ermmm play pens are there for ;) [13:34] david was quite easygoing (he was careful) at her age ... she is just complete and utterly insane [13:34] i can't turn my back on her for two seconds as stuff like https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10487574_10152515257690937_9029092255154474954_n.jpg?oh=f72a0fb6265c119a840470211e66e2ad&oe=548878C6 happens [13:34] :O [13:35] my cat is plenty responsibility for me [13:37] hehe [13:52] https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/517266067614621696 [13:52] morning [13:54] XD [13:54] that was not checked. [14:23] * awilkins laughs [14:23] Also : genuis (some foul language) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU [14:35] awilkins: funny [14:43] I just absent mindedly cleaned my teeth and didn't realise I was doing it until spitting at the end [14:45] surely you noticed with the whole bathroom walk? 0o [14:46] gotta love morning autopilot. [14:48] I went to wash my hands after using the loo and then ended up cleaning my teeth too [14:48] seriously offtopic, but the windows 10 reveal is in video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfveyXCsiA8&feature=youtu.be&list=UUVGOyzms_XJNk_DHqrffXCw [14:51] diddledan: yeah, we've just had a short interlude about brushing teeth, and then you think that something OS-related is seriously offtopic? :P [14:51] lol [14:53] it seems ms are mirroring apple with os X vs windows 10 - os x was the last major release with multiple incrementals since and that's what ms seem to want to do [14:53] so that probably means we'll end up with windows 10.10 [14:53] yosemite :-p [14:55] Wow, WIndows 10.10 when we're on Ubuntu 14.10 soon :P [14:55] COME TO THE PURPLE SIDE, WINDOWS GUYS [14:55] purple? [14:56] orange, surely? [14:56] windows users can move to mac or ubuntu really [14:56] Really? [14:56] I thought it had all gone purple [14:56] i'm personally of the opinion that ubuntu isnt very suited to enterprise, but maybe thats just me [14:56] aubergine. [14:56] announcing new Enterprise SteamOS! [14:57] control your access rights with Steam Groups, the smart person's alternative to Active Directory! [14:57] arsenip, I've of the opinion that "Enterprise" is harmful for my personal productivity, maybe that's just me :-) [14:57] for home use - definitely awilkins [14:57] arsenip, Not just home, I use it for work, and get far more done than I would using the standard issue OS [14:58] ah yes - but do you use it standalone at work, or part of any 'enterprise' services? [14:58] arsenip, Standalone but it can consume the enterprise services I need (with a little effort in some cases) [14:58] There are some things that I fall back to the Windows laptop for [14:58] i dont dissagree, i like ubuntu - dont get me wrong - i am in here :) [14:58] Evil things. Things that need IE to work. [14:59] but i'd not consider ubuntu outside of desktop/laptop use. [14:59] "group policy" invented for enterprises made IS departments think they needed to lock everything down [14:59] We run a few servers on it [14:59] or 'home server' via ubuntu server [14:59] These servers are typically the happiest and least-touchy ones [15:00] "ooh, we can make people change their passwords regularly? let's set that to hourly!" [15:00] The windows ones get rebooted all the time and periodically broken by ICT (who are their overlords) [15:00] The Ubuntu ones they won't touch in case they catch Linux Cooties. [15:00] They have much better uptime. [15:00] oh dear, that's nasty, the linux cooties [15:01] you can't get rid of them easily [15:01] once the genie is out it's very difficult to lock-down again [15:01] My new employer has seen fit to order me a laptop and a bunch of Windows productivity software [15:01] \o/ [15:01] yey? [15:01] i have a work mac, and i does what i wants with it :D [15:02] They asked if I wanted anything else to put on it [15:02] i have no windows license for work [15:02] I said "Linux" ... :P [15:02] i couldnt ever use windows for anything other than gaming now [15:02] :/ [15:02] Yeah, that's my primary use for Windows [15:02] The gaming is even creeping into the Linux though [15:02] hardly touched win at work or home in 10yrs now [15:02] unfortunately I like to use photoshop to generate assets from designs made by our designers - it's easier for me to pull them out myself at times [15:03] Have Neverwinter Nights installed on my "house" laptop and it runs fine even on the Intel chip [15:03] i need some more steam mac games [15:03] for when im travelling [15:03] If it was my setup I'd probably keep a Windows VM [15:04] understandable, there's always something that demands windows [15:04] One happy advantage being that you could move it between hardware without it complaining about licensing... 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