[04:55] good morning peeps [04:55] hi nlsthzn theblazehen Squirm inetpro [05:05] hi Vince-0 [05:27] oi [05:43] morning [05:43] Morning Kilos and Squirm [05:43] hi there Trixar_za [05:44] What's new with you Kilos? [05:44] waiting for a new drive then installing kubuntu 64bit [05:45] then major recovery on crashed 500g drive [05:45] Kilos: you just got a new drive? [05:45] its coming today hopefully , 1TB [05:46] i couldnt do data recovery on a 500g drive from an 80g [05:46] all my everything is/was on the 500g [05:47] but it crashed bad, had to zero it to get mbr working again [05:47] umm [05:48] that means writing over everything... [05:48] yip [05:48] totally wiped [05:48] you probably should have started with something else first [05:48] like testdisk or ddrescue [05:48] im banking on testdisk foremost and scalpel finding stuff [05:49] but the problem is you've written over everything [05:49] it was dead completely, bios didnt even see it [05:49] testdisk would have helped you before the format, I doubt it'll help you know [05:50] oh well heres hoping, ive run testdisk on it now again internally, and there are lots of the old folders but all empty [05:51] anyway it should keep me busy for a while i think [05:53] I use foremost every other week [05:53] or not [05:59] oi [05:59] one of those days [06:04] mornings [06:05] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:23] Squirm: https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/l/t1.0-0/10177920_10152789328334903_1540246397221109551_n.jpg?oh=2968b4fc495057851c7bcc8e5f640aa4&oe=54BABCCE [06:23] That's how I feel [06:23] heh [06:24] Trixar_za: you sound like a woman :/ [06:24] man up [06:24] hahaha [06:24] Didn't I once say that to you? :| [06:24] probably [06:24] but go back and look at all you've said to me today [06:25] Yeah Yeah - I'll probably keep at it. New Month, New Life. hey? [06:25] actually, you said woman in their 50's and 60's are better than you, so did you compare yourself to an 70/80 year old woman? [06:26] :P [06:26] They ran longer and harder than I did. So they did kick my unfit ass [06:26] :P [06:26] * Squirm prods Trixar_za and watches him roll on the floor in agony [06:26] lol [06:27] haha whats with this new running thing with you guys [06:27] ian also started [06:27] meh, I can't run :P [06:27] I need to start with the squash thing again though [06:27] it's been a while [06:27] over a month now [06:27] squash is good [06:28] Kilos: He gave me the idea and I started again today. And I got cocky. [06:28] It really did hurt pushing myself that hard [06:28] lol [06:28] Learned my lesson [06:28] lol [06:28] ya you gotta take it easy in the beginning [06:28] Kilos: I've tried to tell him [06:29] he obviously can't stand to be beaten by older woman [06:29] run/walk 1 to 2 ks for starters [06:30] No, No I can't [06:30] and only after a week or two or when you get to the running only stage then extend the distance [06:30] And this was chubby older woman too [06:30] hahaha [06:30] So I was really motivated to outdo them [06:31] then just fast walk for starters [06:31] it gets better [06:32] I used to be able to run 2KM without stopping. Ageing sucks. [06:32] age? [06:34] Kilos: he's not old :/ [06:34] I was 18 at the time [06:34] sjoe [06:34] Used to be able to walk 8K without sweating too - at 22 [06:34] you are just unfit man [06:35] Trixar_za: A friend of mine is 28, he can cycle 60km :P [06:35] so age isn't the problem [06:35] keep up the good work just dont try beat anyone [06:35] Yeah, but like my cousin he's a show off :P [06:35] Trixar_za: my girlfriend can run 10km ^^ [06:35] I can't :/ [06:35] lol [06:35] 10k fun runs are fun [06:35] One thing kept me going though [06:36] And it wasn't motivation or anything. It was pure spite [06:36] you get to ogle all the cute butts in front of you [06:36] I want to spite my sister and her fitness goonies [06:36] fitness doesnt come overnight [06:36] Prove to them I can get fit without being a complete idiot that believes in Atkins [06:37] She avoids fruits because her trainer told her it had sugar in it [06:37] :/ [06:37] she needs to see a dietician [06:37] fruit is the healthiest sugar [06:37] not a trainer :/ [06:37] Yeah [06:37] dieticians believe Atkins is aweful [06:38] my girlfriend wants to punch anyone on the Atkins Diet [06:38] Yeah, he wasn't even a doctor [06:38] (she's a dietician) [06:38] He was like a pharmacist if memory serves [06:38] :/ [06:38] Atkins that is [06:38] he has his bsc [06:38] BSc [06:39] So does my sister, but that doesn't make her a dietitian [06:39] nope [06:39] I don't have any qualification and I can see it's bad :/ [06:39] all round, balanced diet [06:40] and if you want to refine it for a specific purpose, speak to a dietician [06:41] Working my way back up. If I keep at it, in 2 months there should be a big difference in my fitness level [06:41] I just need to learn how to watch what I eat [06:41] Before I stopped growing (so before 25), I could eat anything and actually LOSE weight. [06:44] weight is only a mouth prob, closed mouth dont put on weight [06:45] I have trouble keeping mine closed. Mostly because I talk too much. [06:45] I even greeted random strangers today [06:45] Since this the Cape, they looked at me with fear and suspicion [06:45] lol [06:46] lol... beardy flannel wearing hipster is sitting on the floor, despairing angrily into his iPhone because he's got on the wrong train [06:47] I sometimes wonder where hipster ends and emo begins [06:48] I have a beard and wear flannel but I don't see myself as a hipster :P [06:48] I have an Android phone [06:48] so that rules it out already [06:50] True [06:51] Also you can use Linux [06:55] although, I'm getting an Apple laptop when I start work :P [06:56] still won't make me a hipster though ^^ [06:56] and I do love my coffee [06:56] but I started loving it before it went hipsterish [06:57] Considering neither you or I knew what an Americano was until your girlfriend explained it to us, I'm pretty sure you're safe. [06:57] Also you're clearly not Metrosexual either [06:59] hi bushtech [06:59] Bye bushtech [07:08] anyone jumped to 14.10 yet? [07:09] wife's laptop needs a clean install, wondering if its stable enough by now [07:09] final beta is usually pretty solid in my experience [07:12] ThatGraemeGuy: can't wait a few days? [07:12] if you're worried [07:12] heh [07:12] i guess you are single? [07:12] :P [07:12] no, but windows 8 seems to keep her happy [07:12] who knows why though [07:13] * Squirm needs to start the conversion process [07:13] ditch her, there's no future for you 2, lol [07:13] haha [07:13] well, she can find her way around my PC [07:13] which I think is a good improvement [07:13] she now handles my multiple displays too [07:13] kde getting fatter and fatter for her 2007 vintage HP, time to go XFCE [07:14] Why not try a few of the other options? :P [07:14] ThatGraemeGuy: I wonder how it would handle Cinnamon [07:14] because i'm familiar with xfce and i couldn't be bothered to learn a new thing [07:16] * Squirm updates CyanogenMod [07:16] CM doesn't like my phone [07:17] ThatGraemeGuy: which is? [07:17] HTC One X [07:17] ah [07:17] have myself an S3 [07:17] too many random reboots [07:18] at least twice a day and usually picks a time when it would be least convenient [07:18] :/ [07:18] oh you have snapscan, cool let me pay quickly. d'oh! wait my phone is being a twat [07:18] never mind, take my card [07:19] yep... [07:19] though I've been alright [07:19] my camera app sometimes doesnt work [07:19] and phone dies when the flash goes off [07:19] HTC's software may not be the latest greatest but it is absolutely rock solid [07:19] hoping this update will fix it [07:20] * ThatGraemeGuy upgrades to 14.10 beta [07:20] between the ssd and the mad fast internet this shouldn't take long [07:22] I'm tempted to stick an ssd in the mac I'm going to get [07:22] and by an enclosure for the drive inside it [07:22] good morning all [07:22] Maaz: coffee on [07:22] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [07:22] pretty sure they have them by default, no? [07:22] 'lo charl [07:22] hi Squirm :) [07:22] ThatGraemeGuy: only the Macbook air [07:22] ah [07:22] afaik [07:22] the Macbook pro's don't [07:23] even my samsung comes with ssd by default [07:23] You have to download a total of 941 M. This download will take about [07:23] 21 minutes with your connection. [07:23] woo [07:24] Lol. CM huh? [07:24] nice ThatGraemeGuy [07:24] You know that Modded Intel driver I did? Somebody asked me if they could use it to develop for CM. [07:24] When I went for my interview, they were busy putting in 20Mbit fibre, should be running by the time I get there [07:25] First time I ever heard of it >.> [07:25] and they had a 20Mbit VDSL line [07:25] lol Trixar_za [07:25] it's been around for a while :P [07:25] updated [07:25] * Squirm tests flash [07:26] Squirm: what are you going to be doing there? [07:26] Coffee's ready for charl! [07:26] 100mbit fibre at our new offices... only 2.5 more weeks [07:26] yay, flash works without killing my phone [07:26] ThatGraemeGuy: IT Technician [07:26] like desktop support stuff? [07:27] but taking load off of the current sys admin. [07:27] no [07:27] more server administration [07:27] ah ok [07:27] but some dsktop support [07:27] so... inbetween [07:27] cool [07:27] there's a guy there who will be doing mainly dsktop support [07:28] * Squirm smacks his letter 'e' [07:28] dsktio [07:28] when I type desktop it doesn't work too well :/ [07:29] ThatGraemeGuy: yeah. I'm hoping it'll set me up for something a lot bigger than where I am now [07:29] I'm hoping I can do my RHCE through them, but if not, it will be great experience [07:31] ew [07:32] In my experience the more a place cares about that sort of thing the less likely I am going to enjoy working there [07:32] That's with MCSE and A+, N+ and Linux+ [07:33] RHCE is actually decent [07:34] I once lost my temper with such a employer. After I established that I wont get the job, I told them exactly what I think about people that only hire certification over experience. [07:35] Funny enough, when I get angry, I also get more articulate and my choice of wording improves. [07:36] Although I do have a horrible habit of also using words I've heard before, but don't really know what they mean... [07:41] More almal [07:41] hi bduk [07:46] ThatGraemeGuy: I don't want them to push it, but I'd like to do it [07:48] Morning peeps! [07:49] 'lo [07:50] hi Spekko charl [07:50] downloading done, installing [07:51] wow that was fast [07:51] does anyone happen to have any experience with the lenovo thinkpad t440? [07:51] hi Kilos [07:51] i can get it at a really good price (647 euro) [07:51] so i'm looking at buying one [07:51] yeah even less than the 21 minutes it said it would take [07:52] charl you mean experience as in linux-friendliness or? [07:52] yes or experience in general [07:52] i'm just asking around before ordering it [07:52] not that specific model, but i've used other thinkpads, would definitely use again [07:53] thinkpads afaik are regarded as some of the ugliest but best laptops around (especially for gnu/linux users) [07:53] it's ubuntu certified too [07:53] http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201310-14260/ [07:53] yeah you should be good [07:53] that's a slightly older model though [07:54] mine would be a newer version of that [07:54] only problem i had with my last thinkpad was the fingerprint reader wasn't useable [07:54] minor [07:54] oh i never use that in any case [07:54] yeah its gimmicky [07:54] i' [07:54] i don't trust it for one bit [07:54] i'm a bit spoiled with this ultrabook thing though, not sure if i can ever go back to a normal, fat laptop :-D [07:55] yup [07:55] this is also considered an ultrabook [07:55] the t440 [07:55] ah, cool [07:55] right now i have a lenovo b560 [07:55] whoops lost mouse [07:56] not something you would find in a regular store [07:56] i ordered it online for 400 euro [07:56] release upgrade is causing bluetooth to have a fit it seems [07:57] ah :( [07:57] i don't use any external mice anymore [07:57] i have gotten so used to the touchpad i just use that now [07:58] sjoe [07:58] thats the worst thing about lappies [08:01] can't play minetest with a touchpad :) [08:02] ah you addicts... [08:02] well better that than meth [08:04] hahaha [08:05] bluetooth will most likely work once installed and upgraded [08:08] yeah [08:08] 70% installed [08:19] reboot time [08:21] that was painless [08:22] until it fails on boot ;) [08:22] just rebooted, all good [08:28] yay [08:32] lekker when evrything just works [08:33] Hey Kilos, others [08:33] hi theblazehen [08:35] 'lo [08:36] Hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:12] good mornings [09:12] hi inetpro [09:13] hi inetpro [09:20] ok order for the laptop has been placed [09:20] looking forward !! [09:24] :) [09:31] Hey inetpro [13:32] hmm... [13:32] hi superfly Private_User [13:33] hi Kilos [13:33] hi Kilos [14:08] terve Kilos [14:09] i beg your humble pardon? [14:09] i said i would greet you in finnish [14:09] now i did [14:09] hahaha [14:09] i dare you to say that's hollywood influence [14:09] :P [14:09] rofl [14:10] what, you mean to tell me you don't speak finnish ?! who doesn't speak finnish ... :D [14:10] vittu perkele helvetti [14:10] normal peeps [14:11] i only speak englikaans [14:11] ah you speak the island language [14:11] i speake no ingurishu [14:11] hmm... are we an island or continent [14:11] ingurishu is the language of the island natives [14:12] ya well i dont speak that [14:12] although you speak englikaans, that's a regular continental dialect thankfully [14:12] very good [14:12] i speak dunglish, it's a crappy english [14:12] hahaha [14:12] it's actually dutch-english [14:13] when you say things like "good busy, young!" and people look strange at you [14:13] then you realise you just spoke dunglish [14:13] dutch is a very difficult language [14:13] it's not as difficult as finnish thoughn [14:13] ah [14:13] i dont know why they add on all the bits and pieces [14:14] afrikaans is so much easier [14:14] dutch is almost as difficult as german [14:14] german is also a very hard language [14:14] mein deutsch ist echt scheisse [14:14] i need to take german lessons [14:15] but english is the worlds language so speaking it properly is good [14:15] universal language [14:15] deutsch ist komplex... ich begreife es nicht [14:15] NL is one of the best english speaking countries in the world... dunglish and all [14:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index [14:16] #3 on teh list ! [14:17] the main thing is each group understands each other, its only when branching out that english is needed [14:17] i really feel like drinking german beer now... i'll buy some hefeweissbier at the shop later [14:19] im glad i dont drink alcohol [14:19] waste of money [14:19] the bayerische staatsbrauerei weihenstephaner makes some excellent beers, they have been brewing since 1040 [14:20] i have never enjoyed beer unless it was 80+% lemonade [14:20] ah the radler... i wouldn't touch it with a stick [14:20] we don't drink pink drinks, dave. always, keep it real [14:20] lol [14:23] i wonder where weihenstephaner got its first brewing license from, probably the romans [14:31] eish! [14:31] Maaz: translate vittu perkele helvetti [14:31] inetpro: I couldn't translate that: Please use Translate v2. See http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html. [14:31] ai! [14:32] rather not [14:32] eh... yup [14:32] be careful what you translate inetpro :P [14:33] ESPECIALLY if it's finnish :D [14:33] sjoe did you say bad stuff here [14:34] Kilos: it's all in the interpretation ... ;) [14:34] ai! [14:35] like the f word [14:35] some peeps use it in every sentence regardless of company [14:35] "the f word" is the name of a town in austria [14:35] Kilos: anyway, add that to your list of improvements for Maaz [14:35] i think its very common [14:35] in german it isn't profanity [14:36] like i said, it's all in the interpretation :P [14:36] i happen to speak *some* of a great variety of languages... believe me [14:36] i can say things in one language that's perfect everyday language and in a different language it's profane [14:36] im sure it isnt used by the more educated or higher class peeps [14:37] movies are full of it now [14:37] yeah but those are english speaking movies, then it's profane in any case [14:37] some people just have a limited dictionary in their minds [14:37] ya and use it for empasis [14:37] "f* you f*'ing motherf*'er" [14:38] sjoe that looks wrong [14:38] if you talk like that you just demonstrate that you're uneducated [14:38] yip i dislike that lots [14:38] emphasis [14:38] Maaz spell emphasis [14:38] Kilos: Yes, you *can* spell [14:38] oh yay [14:39] i battle with spelling in both languages [14:39] but can normally see when a word looks wrong [14:40] seems like the spelling section of my brain leaked out [14:43] home time [14:43] have a good evening all! [16:25] nlsthzn how was waterworld [16:30] hey uncle Kilos ... it was a lot of fun... still slightly sore and stiff :)_ [16:30] lol [17:25] hi magespawn [17:26] hi Kilos [17:28] how are things up there? been very windy down here [17:29] ya and cooler [17:30] unseasonably cold here, but not really cold [17:32] we going to 12 again tonight [17:32] last week we even had a 17 [17:39] you mean number of people? [17:43] hey , Shuttleworth got his R250 mill back from the reserve bank , but his giving it away lol [17:44] i thought the guy was broke [17:44] temp man [17:47] oh charl not here :/ [17:47] nope [17:48] hi Joe_knock [17:48] charlwft this avy already Golynx [17:48] ai! [17:48] charl left this avy already [17:49]