| MichaelP | 14.10 had some problems on update... qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin not being installed... Had to install by it self | 02:01 |
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| waddlesplash | yes | 02:01 |
| waddlesplash | well, apt-get install -f worked | 02:01 |
| MichaelP | funny how one package can cause so many problems... | 02:01 |
| valorie | the longer the name (and sometimes shorter the name...) the more trouble it can cause | 02:02 |
| MichaelP | now it done setting up... reboot see if eveything works | 02:02 |
| valorie | but anything with 'org-kde' in the name is gonna be sort of important | 02:02 |
| MichaelP | yeah | 02:03 |
| * valorie boots into neon5 for some testing | 02:03 | |
| MichaelP | that qml-module-org-kde-extensionplugin ... was problem dophin not seeimg my usb drive... now it there.... now plug tv back in.. see if it gets full screen... it was only giving panel on 1/2 the screen size | 02:09 |
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| soee | good morning | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: did you come up with a good short name for gpl+ev licence? | 09:16 |
| sgclark | morning | 09:16 |
| Riddell | it's sgclark! | 09:17 |
| sgclark | :) | 09:17 |
| Riddell | it must be pre-morning for you | 09:17 |
| sgclark | so is there a git version of bzr-buildpackage-ppa? or how does this work now? | 09:18 |
| sgclark | hehe yeah | 09:18 |
| sgclark | 2:18 am but I went to bed early, so it's good. | 09:19 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I just made one yesterday in kubuntu-automation scripts | 09:20 |
| Riddell | git-buildpackage-ppa | 09:20 |
| Riddell | sgclark: what are you looking to package? | 09:20 |
| sgclark | cool thanks | 09:20 |
| sgclark | I was going to help with plasma if it is still needed | 09:20 |
| Riddell | yep, let me write up on the notes page where I'm at | 09:20 |
| Riddell | sgclark: how's 14.04.1 in trusty? | 09:21 |
| sgclark | was done, let me double check | 09:21 |
| sgclark | yep, Riddell: green minus one active depend, but we dropped active | 09:23 |
| Riddell | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas-frameworks Plasma 5.0.95 updated | 09:23 |
| Riddell | sgclark: great, I'll copy over to ~kubuntu-ppa/backports | 09:24 |
| sgclark | ty, will start on plasma | 09:24 |
| Riddell | what we don't have is an equivalent of knextbzr | 09:29 |
| Riddell | knextgit should clone then checkout the right branch | 09:29 |
| Riddell | oh and be written in python, just to watch harald squirm :) | 09:29 |
| sgclark | lol | 09:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I had multiple suggestions in debian-qt-kde :P | 09:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: hottest contenders IMHO are 'GPL-KDEeV' or 'GPL-2 or GPL-3 or GPL-KDEeV' | 09:57 |
| apachelogger | personally I would go with former because IIRC from a spec POV both versions are $random as as such are not considered a standard license | 09:58 |
| Riddell | groovy, GPL-KDEeV it is | 10:01 |
| sgclark | interesting, Riddell: kio-extras depends on a function added to kio in 5.3.0, which afaik has not been released has it? | 10:04 |
| Riddell | sgclark: aah fooey :( | 10:04 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: are you adjusting master to fix the lintians? | 10:05 |
| Riddell | sgclark: kwin will be the same, we may need to skip over those ones for now | 10:07 |
| sgclark | ok | 10:07 |
| Riddell | sgclark: sorry that's my upstream-hat-on fault | 10:07 |
| sgclark | np | 10:07 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm adjusting kubuntu_utopic_next | 10:08 |
| Riddell | of plasma packages | 10:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ok | 10:10 |
| apachelogger | going to get merges going against that then | 10:10 |
| * apachelogger actually wonders how to best automate merges from multiple different branches | 10:10 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: which repo already has a next branch? | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | or perhaps the question is... why do I look at repos and they have none? ^^ | 10:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: all the plasma ones do | 10:55 |
| * sgclark is very confused | 10:55 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 10:55 |
| sgclark | master does not match this kubuntu_utopic_next, is that right? | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: computer says no | 10:55 |
| Riddell | sgclark: right, I'm working with kubuntu_utopic_next | 10:55 |
| sgclark | which alos does not match what is in ppa | 10:55 |
| Riddell | kubuntu_utopic_next should match ppa | 10:56 |
| sgclark | ok | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: something is weird in jenkins | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | nevermind me | 10:56 |
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:16 |
| sgclark | hiyas | 11:17 |
| soee | hiho | 11:17 |
| soee | sgclark: working on P5.1b ? | 11:17 |
| BluesKaj | what's new today, sgclark? | 11:18 |
| sgclark | well, trying | 11:18 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I need a git for dummies. I can't seem to push to a branch. I only have experience with working with master. and nothing is working | 11:18 |
| soee | iv seen several pacvkages faild to build in staging | 11:19 |
| soee | git push -u origin development :D | 11:19 |
| soee | this is how i push my PHP code to devel branch -.- | 11:20 |
| sgclark | Riddell: also that git-buildpackage-ppa is erroring with missing files and debsign wants your key. Not sure what is wrong there, this is a new desktop, perhaps I missed a config setting somewhere | 11:20 |
| sgclark | soee: not sure how far I will get, some packages depend on frameworks 5.3.0 which doesn't exist yet. | 11:21 |
| soee | sgclark: 5.3.0 was not released ort just dont get into Kubuntu ? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | sgclark: got this in ~/.gitconfig ? http://paste.kde.org/pemfrk8wi | 11:23 |
| Riddell | and can you ssh in ? | 11:23 |
| Riddell | (with the right username) | 11:23 |
| sgclark | soee: tried your command, still get everything up to date, yet git diff says otherwise | 11:23 |
| Riddell | don't run soee's command that uses a different branch name | 11:24 |
| Riddell | sgclark: can you ssh jriddell-guest@git.debian.org ? | 11:24 |
| Riddell | and run group it should tell you jriddell-guest pkg-kde scm_pkg-kd | 11:24 |
| sgclark | I used kubunut_utopic_next | 11:24 |
| soee | sgclark: mine was example how i work with git but my personal codes, this has nothign to do with yours | 11:24 |
| BluesKaj | will KF5 and plasma5 remain optional in the 14.10 official release? | 11:25 |
| sgclark | Riddell: yes I can ssh in | 11:25 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: yes | 11:25 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, ok, thanks | 11:26 |
| sgclark | group: command not found | 11:26 |
| Riddell | sgclark: groups | 11:27 |
| sgclark | sgclark-guest pkg-kde scm_pkg-kde scm_sepwatch | 11:27 |
| Riddell | scm_sepwatch ? elite! | 11:27 |
| Riddell | anyway that looks fine | 11:27 |
| Riddell | sgclark: got ~/.gitconfig set up ? | 11:28 |
| sgclark | yeah that is set | 11:28 |
| Riddell | sgclark: groovy, so you have a branch? | 11:29 |
| Riddell | well a git repo clone ? | 11:29 |
| sgclark | git clone debian:plasma/libksysguard | 11:30 |
| sgclark | git checkout kubuntu_utopic_next | 11:30 |
| Riddell | looking good | 11:31 |
| Riddell | you've made a commit ? | 11:31 |
| sgclark | git diff shows my changes, but all push attempts says up to date.. so what is the push command? | 11:31 |
| sgclark | commit... lol duh, thanks | 11:31 |
| Riddell | commit is a two stage process in git too | 11:32 |
| Riddell | git add mychangedfile | 11:32 |
| Riddell | git commit -m "change mychangedfile" | 11:32 |
| Riddell | or you can go git commit -a to commit all modified files | 11:33 |
| Riddell | git log to check it's been commmitted | 11:33 |
| Riddell | then git push should do the right thing to send it to git.debian.org | 11:33 |
| apachelogger | ehm | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | 99% of the time you want debcommit or debcommit -a | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | that is to say, if you do not use debcommit you'll get in a world of trouble with both debian and me | 11:35 |
| apachelogger | rule of thumb: did the changelog change? -> use debcommit | 11:36 |
| sgclark | ugh | 11:36 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's the difference? | 11:36 |
| sgclark | well too late for this one. noted for next time | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | debcommit will use what you wrote in debian/changelog | 11:36 |
| sgclark | ok | 11:37 |
| sgclark | I copy and pasted lol, debcommit sounds easier | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 11:37 |
| sgclark | now onto a debsign problem... | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | also when tagging I suppose everyone has to use debcommit to get the tags right | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | I did definitely see weird perl rejections hooks on the server side | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | oh yeah | 11:38 |
| Riddell | >cat ~/.devscripts | 11:38 |
| Riddell | DEBSIGN_KEYID=jriddell@ubuntu.com | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: there's a gigantic perl git hook on the server that does all sorts of weird shit :P | 11:38 |
| Riddell | sgclark: set that for your e-mail, otherwise it'll use whatever is in the latest debian/changelog | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | I didn't understand half the code | 11:38 |
| apachelogger | so I :q! | 11:38 |
| sgclark | did not exist. fixed, thanks | 11:39 |
| Riddell | sgclark: and I also get lots of "dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file" on running git-buildpackage, but I ignore them and it seems to be ok | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: you could also define -kID or -kYourName or -kPartOfYourNameAssumingNoneElseInTheKeyringHasThatName | 11:39 |
| apachelogger | dpkg-buildpackage -s -kSitter is what I do, mind you I do have multiple keys for different purposes, so I kinda have to be explicit ^^ | 11:40 |
| Riddell | sgclark: git-buildpackage seems to prefer you to have one of those weird branches with the upstream source in the branch too so I'm guessing this is just a bug from that preference | 11:40 |
| sgclark | ok | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you can make it not do that | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | unfortunately I lost my zsh_history for some reason | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | so I cannot tell you what pile of arguments you need to make it behave as bzr buildpackage | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | somthing to figure out on a rainy afternoon I suppose | 11:41 |
| Riddell | "git-buildpackage", "--git-ignore-branch", "--git-no-create-orig", "--git-ignore-new", "-S" is what git-buildpackage-ppa uses | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | nah, that sounds more liberal than what I had | 11:41 |
| Riddell | you republican you, go back to the NRA | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | pft | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | it's important | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | if the stuff is too liberal it will take dirty bits from the repo, and we most certainly don't want uncommited nonesense in an upload | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | so caution is very much of use here | 11:42 |
| apachelogger | going to attempt a CI automerge rollout | 11:43 |
| sgclark | ok, almost 3 hours later.. one package done heh | 11:43 |
| Riddell | yay! | 11:44 |
| sgclark | lol | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | what does need doing anyway? | 11:44 |
| Riddell | plasma 5.0.95 | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | AFAIK only breeze and kwin and maybe ksysguard should make problems | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah, but it's been mostly CId | 11:44 |
| sgclark | hmm, I think we are stuck on the 5.3.0 frameworks issue? | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | there shouldn't be any big issues | 11:44 |
| Riddell | two new packages | 11:44 |
| apachelogger | oh yeah, the frameworks bit in kwin probably is a biggy | 11:45 |
| Riddell | some new translations | 11:45 |
| Riddell | and kwin depending on frameworks 5.3 | 11:45 |
| sgclark | kio-extras as well | 11:45 |
| Riddell | I don't suppose we can only update to the git versions of the required frameworks? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | the problem with this issue is it may end up with plasma schedule moving forward two weeks which means it can't be included in kubuntu | 11:46 |
| Riddell | hi shevron | 11:53 |
| shevron | hi Riddel | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | why does frameworkintegration dep on oxygen? | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | a build dep that is | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | makes ENOSENSE | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | wat | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | blame shows me | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | ok, no, I just moved things around | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ changelog mentions you | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: a90ac25f803889b75b7f7029baf9b3b611a77300 | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | and the actual runtime dep is missing ofcourse | 12:00 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: not sure, check it builds without and remove if you want | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | well | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/186046131/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-amd64.frameworkintegration_5.2.0-0ubuntu1_UPLOADING.txt.gz | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | :p | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | it doesn't actually find oxygen | 12:02 |
| Riddell | hmm, that looks wrong | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: what's the policy to update changelogs in debian ? | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | there is none | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | so .. uh .. | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | what policy are you looking for anyway? | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | you make a change, you put it into changelog | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | unless it's kubuntu_unstable then you don't put it in a changelog because it currently makes things explode xD | 12:09 |
| * apachelogger is slightly scared of deploying the automerge change | 12:11 | |
| Riddell | groovy, kio from git seems to compile and that makes kio-extras happy | 12:24 |
| Riddell | sgclark: 4.14.1 in kubuntu-ppa/backports tried on an ec2 and all installs and runs | 12:26 |
| Riddell | Pali: you may want to backport that to precise now ↑ | 12:27 |
| sgclark | yay | 12:27 |
| tazz | o/ | 12:27 |
| alvin | yay | 12:27 |
| Riddell | who was saying there were questions on google+ ? | 12:28 |
| Riddell | soee: you were? where about were those g+ queries? | 12:30 |
| soee | Riddell: what questions ? | 12:30 |
| soee | 4.14..1 ? | 12:31 |
| Riddell | soee: yeah | 12:31 |
| soee | Riddell: https://plus.google.com/110534757969145694671/posts/MMTeiYCudY4 | 12:31 |
| Riddell | g+ really confuses me, we have a Kubuntu page, and that is a related Kubuntu community? | 12:33 |
| soee | Riddell: i think this is the officail community page | 12:37 |
| soee | it is created by Kubuntu user | 12:37 |
| Riddell | mm I see, not very obvious at all | 12:42 |
| * sgclark blogs.. | 12:45 | |
| Riddell | sgclark: you should probably also put 4.14.1 on kubuntu.org and slap it onto social media bits | 12:54 |
| sgclark | ok | 12:57 |
| soee | well it sthe only one im using actively on g+ | 13:05 |
| sgclark | Riddell: g+, facebook done. I can't access twitter, you sent me the encrypted password, but failed to give me your key lol | 13:15 |
| Riddell | sgclark: it uses your key! | 13:16 |
| Riddell | you're not getting my private key, it's my precious | 13:16 |
| sgclark | hmm, it says unable to decrypt | 13:16 |
| sgclark | right, public key I think | 13:16 |
| SourBlue | aaah encryption :D | 13:28 |
| SourBlue | do you guys know a good gui to manage sql databases? | 13:29 |
| alvin | SourBlue: SQL Squirrel ( http://www.squirrelsql.org/ ) | 13:37 |
| alvin | That's what I'm using on Kubuntu. There's no package though. | 13:38 |
| SourBlue | Thank you | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: all of these http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma have the wrong maintainer | 14:01 |
| shadeslayer | should be : Maintainer: Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org> | 14:01 |
| * shadeslayer will fix | 14:01 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah I noticed that earlier, thanks for fixing | 14:03 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: also wrong Vcs fields | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | mhm | 14:05 |
| alvin | Ah, there's my mail again. Thanks people. | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: breeze-qt4 has neither kubuntu_unstable nor kubuntu_utopic_next branches | 14:43 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: sorted | 14:47 |
| sgclark | Riddell: seems we stuck at the frameworks version problem, did you decide what to do? | 14:53 |
| Riddell | thowing up a git snapshot of kio now | 14:54 |
| Riddell | sgclark: do you know what else kwin wants? | 14:54 |
| sgclark | no clue, didn't look after you said it will have same problem | 14:54 |
| sgclark | Riddell: kf5config, kf5configwidgets, kf5coreaddons, kf5crash, kf5globalaccel, kf5i18n, kf5init, kf5notifications, kf5service, and and good grief, pretty all of frameworks | 14:57 |
| sgclark | kf5plasma, kf5widgetaddons, kf5windowsystem | 14:58 |
| Riddell | wibble | 15:03 |
| Mamarok | Riddell: you will like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU | 15:05 |
| Riddell | aah at last we can parody the posh boys in government, maybe that'll bring down the state | 15:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: your cmake expertese is needed in libksysguard which installs a dbus file for kauth into /usr/etc | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | moment | 15:10 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I have to leave for one hour, please ping me if there are things that need doing when I get back. | 15:15 |
| Riddell | sure | 15:16 |
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| Riddell | looks like kwin just needs kwindowsystem updated so I'll throw up a git snapshot of that too | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | ehm, why don't we not ship kwin beta? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | we need to package it now to get the kubuntu-plasma5 image in a workable state, otherwise there's bugs I won't be able to fix | 15:27 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: does plasmashell require the new kwin? | 15:35 |
| Riddell | dunno, probably not | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | why would we need to spend time on making the beta kwin build then? | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | could just as well go with stable kwin and bump kwin once kf5 is out | 15:36 |
| Riddell | who knows what bugs might not be uncovered by that, there's a reason we have betas, unlike frameworks we are not perfect in plasma land | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I'll argue that the plasma team should make sure things build with released stuff then | 15:38 |
| Riddell | if I see the plasma release manager I'll be sure to tell him | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | this way every distro gets to spend their own silly effort on making it build | 15:38 |
| Riddell | E: kinfocenter source: no-human-maintainers eh? | 16:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: lintian doesn't like that you've taken away the humans | 16:09 |
| Riddell | "The Maintainer address for this package is a mailing list and there are no Uploaders listed. Team-maintained packages must list the human maintainers in the Uploaders field." | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ah yeah, I guess it's complaining about Maintainers | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: mind fixing that? | 16:10 |
| Riddell | meh whatever, I'll override it in kubuntu-automation | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | also, apachelogger is going to come at me with a club now | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | because I probably made all of his ci red | 16:10 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 16:10 |
| * shadeslayer hides | 16:12 | |
| apachelogger | yellow | 16:22 |
| apachelogger | oh | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | indeed red | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | cool beans | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | someone fix it | 16:23 |
| Antisound_ | hi guys! | 16:27 |
| Antisound_ | Is it possible to install the Plasma 5.1 beta already? | 16:27 |
| Riddell | hi Antisound, nope we're still packaging it, helpers welcomed http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.95_utopic.html | 16:28 |
| Antisound_ | Riddell: how can I help | 16:29 |
| Antisound_ | ? | 16:29 |
| Riddell | Antisound_: become an elite kubuntu ninja and fix the packages :) | 16:30 |
| Antisound_ | Riddell: sounds like hard work ;-) | 16:30 |
| Riddell | hard but rewarded with free hugs and irn bru | 16:30 |
| Riddell | testers and bugfixers also needed | 16:31 |
| Antisound_ | Riddell: how much time is estimated for the packaging? | 16:31 |
| sgclark | Riddell: ok I am back, what else needs doing? | 16:31 |
| Riddell | Antisound_: plasma 5.1 beta I hope to get done by tomorrow | 16:32 |
| Antisound_ | Riddell: ok. Thx! | 16:32 |
| Riddell | sgclark: just libnm-qt needs a copyright file fix | 16:33 |
| Antisound_ | Riddell: i would love to help but i think i'm not such a "geek" ;-) | 16:33 |
| Riddell | then it's waiting on kwin to compile to unblock the rest | 16:33 |
| sgclark | ok | 16:34 |
| sgclark | Riddell: how are we fixing the space error? | 16:34 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I'm using GPL-KDEeV or LGPL-KDEeV | 16:35 |
| sgclark | ok sounds good | 16:35 |
| Riddell | which seems to appease the lintian gods | 16:35 |
| Riddell | ** community council meeting in 1 hour 15min | 16:45 |
| sgclark | that isn't me right? | 16:50 |
| sgclark | Riddell: something is not right about libmm-qt. I noticed the fix was already in git, but not in ppa, I tried to build and put ppa2 up but it complains that orig.tar does not match | 16:52 |
| shadeslayer | most interesting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kwalletmanager/+bug/1309955 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1309955 in kwalletmanager (Ubuntu) "kwalletd appears in the system monitor as "zombie"" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:58 |
| valorie | isn't the CC meeting now? | 17:05 |
| valorie | according to http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ it is, but nobody is there | 17:08 |
| shadeslayer | do you guys want me around? | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | because I wanted to leave in 20 minutes | 17:14 |
| valorie | finally starting | 17:18 |
| valorie | would be good to have you for a few mins at least, shadeslayer | 17:19 |
| shadeslayer | where is it? | 17:19 |
| valorie | #ubuntu-meeting - everyone is welcome to attend | 17:20 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ping me when our turn comes? :p | 17:20 |
| valorie | sure | 17:22 |
| Riddell | ** community council meeting now apparantly | 17:31 |
| shadeslayer | I'm off to home | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | cya tomorriow | 17:36 |
| soee | hiho | 17:36 |
| soee | i see 7 packages fail to build on amd4 | 17:37 |
| snele | guys I just want to remind you that this important bug is still not fixed | 17:41 |
| snele | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/1322968 | 17:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1322968 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu) "Changing country leads to invalid locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:41 |
| snele | for example I was having some hieroglifs instead of serbian letters šđčćž . had to manually fix it | 17:42 |
| snele | I think it is important because 14.04 is LTS :) | 17:42 |
| snele | and who to ping about this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1369673 | 17:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1369673 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice kde file dialog integration broken (not working) in 14.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:43 |
| valorie | shadeslayer: :( | 17:46 |
| valorie | ... | 18:22 |
| * Riddell hand waves and ignores someone trying to restrict our community | 18:23 | |
| Riddell | can I get on the CC now? | 18:23 |
| valorie | http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-10-02-17.13.moin.txt | 18:23 |
| valorie | good idea, Riddell | 18:24 |
| valorie | moar committees! | 18:24 |
| sgclark | hehe | 18:24 |
| Riddell | hmm, got to wait until 2015-11-14 before I can stand on it | 18:24 |
| valorie | they might actually DO something though | 18:24 |
| sgclark | I do find it odd that we are few that have the concerns | 18:24 |
| valorie | which would be good | 18:24 |
| genii | It was pretty interesting to be a fly on the wall in #ubuntu-meeting just earlier. | 18:25 |
| Riddell | let's have a mass Kubuntu takeover of the communitiy council next November! | 18:25 |
| sgclark | lol | 18:25 |
| valorie | the others are small, and don't feel that they have any power | 18:25 |
| valorie | genii: your takeaway? | 18:25 |
| genii | valorie: I'm still thinking about it. But basically I think if Canonical wants to flex their muscles and go after other groups using their code, they are going to have an uphill battle. Especially with public opinion. | 18:28 |
| valorie | sure, but in the meantime, they are muddying the waters | 18:28 |
| valorie | and that hurts us | 18:28 |
| valorie | people stay away from areas with known bullies | 18:29 |
| valorie | it didn't use to be like this | 18:29 |
| valorie | they made their reputation as a champion of FLOSS | 18:29 |
| Riddell | reputation doesn't make money alas | 18:30 |
| valorie | now they are slowly destroying that | 18:30 |
| valorie | not directly | 18:30 |
| valorie | afk for awhile | 18:31 |
| genii | From what I've seen since I've been with *buntu, the troubles were starting pretty much around the time they wanted to go with Upstart, and it set a precedent there. | 18:31 |
| genii | Basically just degraded from there on | 18:31 |
| Riddell | upstart was a pioneering project, that's all good | 18:31 |
| Riddell | but the need for giving licence control to canonical killed it as a community project | 18:31 |
| Riddell | and lots of others like lightdm | 18:32 |
| Riddell | which is a bit hypocritical since qt also needs licence control | 18:32 |
| Riddell | but then qt doesn't need a dev community, the community needs qt (as a generalisaton) | 18:32 |
| Riddell | but the move away from gnome and to unity and also Mir is killer for a community project not to use community made software, and I'm surprised that wasn't brought up when they were talking about lack of new membership earlier | 18:33 |
| Riddell | anyway thanks for waking up so "early" valorie :) | 18:35 |
| genii | Yes, Mir vs Wayland put a lot of bitterness in the Canonical-Kubuntu relationship, that I could see. | 18:36 |
| * genii makes more coffee and goes back to work | 18:38 | |
| jmux | Riddell: I'm just reading the the meeting backlog. I didn't know of the Ubuntu LiMux article before it got published, but AFAIK the LiMux Mgmt was asked if it was Ok and I guess they simply didn't realize. | 18:48 |
| jmux | I'll just ask them, if they want to write a mail and point them to the bug. | 18:50 |
| soee | woho 3 packages left for amd64 :) | 18:51 |
| Riddell | thanks jmux | 18:54 |
| rberg | Hi all not sure if this is the correct place to report this: I found that with kde 4.14.1 on precise kde no longer suspends on laptop lip close nor is there a button on the K menu / leave, pm-suspend still works | 18:57 |
| rberg | err not precise trusty | 18:57 |
| soee | after todays updates ? | 18:58 |
| rberg | yes | 18:58 |
| soee | Riddell: ^ | 18:59 |
| Riddell | rberg: hmm, fooey | 19:00 |
| Riddell | that'll be faffy to debug | 19:00 |
| Riddell | solid not detecting the right thing again | 19:00 |
| Riddell | rberg: can you report a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+filebug | 19:01 |
| Riddell | and ping us here with it | 19:01 |
| rberg | sure, might me a few min | 19:01 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I keep getting rejected on libmm-qt. Someone had already fixed the issue in git but never put in pa. | 19:08 |
| sgclark | ppa | 19:08 |
| * sgclark spots jriddell next to libmm-qt notes | 19:10 | |
| Riddell | yeah I put something up didn't I? | 19:10 |
| sgclark | it never made it to the ppa | 19:10 |
| sgclark | still at ppa1 | 19:10 |
| sgclark | but the changes are in git | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | mmm | 19:11 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: how was the meeting | 19:11 |
| * shadeslayer is full of food | 19:12 | |
| sgclark | is there a space free version of gpl-2 + trolltech gpl exception version 1.0 | 19:12 |
| soee | sgclark: is there any chance to get 5.1b ready today ? | 19:19 |
| sgclark | trying | 19:19 |
| rberg | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1376895 let me know if there is any other info you folks could use. thanks. | 19:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1376895 in Kubuntu PPA "kde 4.14.1 on Trusty does not suspend to ram on laptop lid close nor a button on K menu / Leave" [Undecided,New] | 19:22 |
| Riddell | sgclark: just make one up I guess, GPL-2 or GPL-Qt or something | 19:23 |
| sgclark | ok | 19:23 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: oh the usual, hand waving and talk of complexity rather than any desire to stand up for free software | 19:24 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: any thoughts on rberg's bug? suspend broken in 4.14.1 on trusty, have I forgotten to add in some patch? | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: not really sure | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | check output of qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 /something/something/canHibernate | 19:31 |
| Riddell | rberg: ↑ | 19:32 |
| rberg | false | 19:33 |
| rberg | qdbus org.kde.kded /org/freedesktop/PowerManagement CanHibernate false | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | not really, but ok | 19:37 |
| shadeslayer | what about cansuspend? | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | but yeah, that explains why you can't suspend, KDE thinks it can't suspend | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | rberg: check qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 | 19:39 |
| shadeslayer | it should have a can suspend method oto | 19:39 |
| rberg | updated the ticket with that output | 19:40 |
| Riddell | plasma5 has: >qdbus --system org.freedesktop.login1 /org/freedesktop/login1 org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanSuspend | 19:41 |
| Riddell | yes | 19:41 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 19:45 |
| rberg | I dont see any sort of answer along with org.freedesktop.login1.Manager.CanSuspend() | 19:47 |
| rberg | sorry to bother, I rebooted my laptop and now I get a suspend button. Before I had just logged out and restarted lightdm after the upgrade | 19:53 |
| Riddell | rberg: ooh interesting | 19:57 |
| Riddell | and mysterious, I've no idea why it would be different | 19:57 |
| rberg | yeah, I wonder if something was left running or something | 19:57 |
| rberg | something in /tmp.. now I am just guessing | 19:58 |
| Riddell | ooh plasma 5 is all compiled | 20:19 |
| Riddell | brave people can test | 20:19 |
| sgclark | I just put up oxygen, had new files, wait a bit | 20:19 |
| sgclark | Riddell: libmm-qt is still broken | 20:20 |
| Riddell | hmm the .orig is indeed different | 20:21 |
| Riddell | aah watch is looking for libnm not libmm | 20:22 |
| Riddell | uploaded | 20:35 |
| sgclark | Riddell: are you sure? still shows failed ppa1 | 20:42 |
| sgclark | Riddell: that is the last of them for serious errors, mind if I tidy up the last of the copyright bits tomorrow, I am quite tired now :( | 20:43 |
| Riddell | sgclark: me too, sleep well | 21:22 |
| sgclark | g'night! | 21:22 |
| Pali | Riddell: 4.14.1 for precise was compiled: https://launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-backports/ | 21:27 |
| Pali | and one patch for backport-hooks: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/kubuntu-automation/revision/439 | 21:28 |
| soee | hmm p5.1b packages ready ? :) | 21:55 |
| sgclark | soee: sure it is tester ready | 21:56 |
| soee | yup :) | 21:57 |
| soee | upgrading | 21:59 |
| soee | oks one error already | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: oh yeah, btw, feel free to come up with an algorithm proposal for upgrade testing that covers as much as possible while wasting as little resources as possible ;) | 22:03 |
| soee | sgclark: problem with /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5sysguard5-data_4%3a5.0.95-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb | 22:04 |
| sgclark | can you give me more details than that? | 22:05 |
| soee | im trying, i forget how to get command executed in english :/ | 22:06 |
| soee | sgclark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8481962/ | 22:06 |
| sgclark | oh hmm. perhaps I will see when I upgrade. too tired to do it now | 22:06 |
| soee | ok ill tru with -f and force overwrite | 22:07 |
| apachelogger | transition fail most likley | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | i386 of ksysguard hasn't built yet, so -data is not available in the required version | 22:09 |
| soee | reboot | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | should autoresolve in an hour or so | 22:09 |
| soee | i did sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install libkf5sysguard5-data | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | that doesn't solve the issue | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | unless you ran apt update as well ^^ | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | (and that only helps in case the correct version built meanwhile) | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | at any rate that problem shouldn't have impact on anything but ksysguard anyway | 22:10 |
| soee | will try to reboot and see what happen | 22:11 |
| sgclark | apachelogger: what do you mean not built? all compiled except arm (of course) | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | sgclark: they weren't when soee ran apt update | 22:11 |
| sgclark | oh ok | 22:12 |
| apachelogger | even if, there's the publication step which might take longer for one arch than the other, depending on when teh build actually failed | 22:12 |
| soee | im back | 22:14 |
| soee | all seems to work fine, but if i open systray | 22:16 |
| soee | my kaptop starts to give strange sound | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | lol | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | soee: define strange sounds | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | and does it go away if you close the notification popup again | 22:17 |
| soee | yet it goas away, it saunds like very old TV when warming up | 22:17 |
| soee | mabe something with battery | 22:17 |
| sgclark | d_ed: I am told to bug you with this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339620 | 22:17 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 339620 in general "Messages.sh is getting installed and it shouldn't be." [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | soee: that sounds veery strange | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | soee: does the sound come out the speakers? | 22:18 |
| soee | yup amd the otification item loading animation is active all the time | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: apparently oxygen has no beta version on bugzilla | 22:18 |
| soee | apachelogger: hard to say | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | put your ear tot he speaker :P | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | if you move ear away, does it get less loud? :P | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | audio debugging for starters xD | 22:19 |
| soee | i have muted all but this happens all the time | 22:21 |
| soee | i would shoot into battery supply | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | totally weird | 22:22 |
| soee | btw i feel like all works 5 time faster now | 22:22 |
| sgclark | nice | 22:23 |
| soee | after logout and login again, plasmashell did not start | 22:30 |
| soee | had to start it manually | 22:30 |
| soee | ok time to get some sleep, ill test more tomorrow | 22:32 |
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