[02:37] <Fritigern> !jahshaka
[02:38] <Fritigern> Ah, no Ubotu here. Should have checked first
[02:38] <Fritigern> No wait, there he/she/it is
[02:38] <Fritigern> I must have done it wrong then.
[02:39] <Fritigern> Oh, it pm'ed me. LOL
[05:28] <akiva__> http://ibin.co/1cJILIm4X6ia dpkg is broken after running that script as sudo
[06:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:24] <lordievader> Morning elfy ;)
[06:25] <elfy> morning lordievader :)
[09:40] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:40] <lordievader> o/
[09:40] <lordievader> vitimiti: How did your important call go?
[09:40] <vitimiti> Perfect
[09:41] <lordievader> vitimiti: Congratulations ;)
[09:41] <vitimiti> thx
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:32] <mac_nibblet> Has anyone successfully installed ubuntu 1410 on a intel nuc ?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> mac_nibblet, I don't see why you can't,  intel hardware is very linux friendly. I have 14.10 installed on this lenovo intel equipped laptop
[12:35] <mac_nibblet> BluesKaj: i have a problem that anytime i install a recent version of ubuntu, it installs fine
[12:35] <mac_nibblet> but then on the reboot it does not recognize the boot drive
[12:37] <BluesKaj> what do you see when you boot ?
[12:37] <mac_nibblet> it cannot find a drive to boot up from
[12:39] <BluesKaj> what kind of drive ?
[12:40] <mac_nibblet> mSata
[12:40] <mac_nibblet> ssd
[12:40] <BluesKaj> mac_nibblet, make sure you have the correct drive as first in the boot sequence in the BIOS
[12:40] <mac_nibblet> but also had the problem on my old laptop
[12:41] <mac_nibblet> BluesKaj: jupp already checked that
[12:41] <lordievader> mac_nibblet: Does it give a kernel panic?
[12:41] <mac_nibblet> lordievader: if it does not find a bootable drive how do you expect the kernel to run :D?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> so grub isn't showing up ?
[12:42] <lordievader> mac_nibblet: Ah I thought you where at a next stage.
[12:42] <lordievader> mac_nibblet: Uefi?
[12:42] <mac_nibblet> laptop is legacy boot
[12:42] <mac_nibblet> and nuc is UEFI
[12:43] <BluesKaj> ma do you have legacy boot option?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> mac_nibblet,^
[12:44] <mac_nibblet> i do
[12:44] <BluesKaj> use that
[12:44] <mac_nibblet> eh
[12:45] <BluesKaj> uefi is mostly for windows gpt , no windows gpt , no need for uefi
[12:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: No, it is the successor for the BIOS.
[12:46] <mac_nibblet> i was just about to say that
[12:46] <BluesKaj> then disable secure boot
[12:46] <lordievader> Supposedly it is a lot faster than the BIOS.
[12:46] <lordievader> And more flexible. More modern at any rate.
[12:47] <BluesKaj> modedrn eh, modern problems too.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> what good is modern if it mucks up your boot
[12:50] <lordievader> mac_nibblet: If you use UEFI do you have a bios partition?
[12:50] <mac_nibblet> no
[12:51] <mac_nibblet> should i ?
[12:51] <lordievader> Not sure, don't really have experience with UEFI.
[12:51] <mac_nibblet> it's weird because i just created the partition table myself
[12:51] <mac_nibblet> and everything works
[12:51] <mac_nibblet> but the automatic partition table didn't
[12:52] <BluesKaj> did you use auto partitioning during the install?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> if you prepartitioned the drive before the install, then use manual partitioning during the install and just set the mount points
[13:01] <bipul> Hello.
[13:01] <BluesKaj> hi bipul
[13:02] <bipul> I have just downloaded 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/. And i have installed on my Virtualbox which is up to date. My problem is after installation I am unable to loged in.
[13:02] <bipul> Hello BluesKaj
[13:03] <lordievader> bipul: You dont get lightdm?
[13:03] <bipul> lightdm?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> login page
[13:04] <lordievader> You might be suffering from bug 1375805
[13:04] <bipul> lordievader: Yes i got the login page. But when i signed in my credential(ID/PASSOWRD) information
[13:04] <bipul> I am unable to get unity
[13:05] <bipul> I mean i am not able to loged in.
[13:05] <bipul> Yes even i have try rrescue mode
[13:06] <lordievader> bipul: Anything in your xsession-errors log?
[13:07] <bipul> lordievader: no error
[13:07] <bipul> lordievader: This bug has issue with booting. but here i am able to boot.
[13:07] <bipul> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1375805
[13:07] <BluesKaj> update and upgrade, then startx
[13:08] <elfy> 1375805 is fixed
[13:08] <bipul> BluesKaj: How can i update when i am not able to loged in.
[13:08] <bipul> Neither this key ALT  CTRL F2 is working .
[13:08] <elfy> bipul: exactly what happens - you start the vm and you end up at a black screen? what happens if you got to tty1?
[13:09] <elfy> is it there?
[13:09] <lordievader> bipul: From lightdm you jump to a tty.
[13:09] <bipul> no i am not able to get even tty1
[13:09] <elfy> and if you are using vbox you have to do <host>+1
[13:09] <elfy> host by default in vbox is the Right Ctrl
[13:11] <elfy> if you get there - login - then dpkg -l systemd - you should have 208-8ubuntu7, if you don't then apt-get update and upgrade
[13:11] <elfy> then reboot
[13:11] <BluesKaj> bipul,, ctl+alt+f1-f6, login , then update and upgrade , then startx
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oh forgot vb..NM
[13:12] <bipul> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vkg9lj&s=8#.VC1PItbSoWM see
[13:13] <BluesKaj> oops was distracted by the Bell guy  in my backyard...he's not supposed to show up 'til monday
[13:13] <elfy> bipul: right
[13:14] <elfy> bipul: and this with the image released on the 2nd October?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> bi , guest addition installed?
[13:15] <bipul> yes
[13:15] <bipul> elfy: Yes http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/current/
[13:16] <elfy> what is dekstop-next?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ppa
[13:16] <elfy> so not normal anything at all then?
[13:17] <bipul> nothing next, it stuck like that way
[13:18] <elfy> we're talking about the image bipul - desktop-next is not normal ubuntu
[13:18] <bipul> ohh
[13:19] <bipul> :p
[13:21] <elfy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:25] <bipul> elfy: I think it's bug.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> bipul, use the image that elfy posted , the next image is experimental, not stable on a lot of systems
[13:29] <bipul> yes i have downloaded from that link
[13:30] <BluesKaj> good
[13:33] <bipul> BluesKaj: But still there is a issue with utopic-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:34] <BluesKaj> bipul, same issue?
[13:36] <bipul> BluesKaj: I have given you a link of a screenshot, where it is clearly shown that, it's unity is not able to get load.
[13:40] <BluesKaj> bipul, ok, this could be a question for #virtualbox
[13:41] <bipul> BluesKaj: huh?
[13:41] <BluesKaj> or #vbox
[13:41] <elfy> bipul: please check a couple of things
[13:41] <bipul> BluesKaj: but what should i ask there? the problem is with the .iso file.
[13:41] <elfy> do RightCtrl+1 then login
[13:42] <elfy> then dpkg -l systemd - what version does it show
[13:42] <elfy> also run sudo service lightdm status - what does that show
[13:43] <elfy> but at the end of the day I'm a bit meh about ubuntu issues
[13:43] <elfy> best place to ask first would be #ubuntu-quality
[13:43] <bipul> elfy: I think i am able to loged in. but this shortcut keys are not working. I am not able to get terminal or even tty with ALT+CTRL+F2
[13:44] <elfy> sigh
[13:44] <lordievader> elfy: Wasn't ubuntu-desktop-next the Unity Mir thing, or something like that?
[13:44] <elfy> bipul: please do RIGHTCTRL+1 as you were asked
[13:44] <elfy> lordievader: yea guess so - I'm even more meh about that lol
[13:44] <lordievader> elfy: Exactly ;)
[13:44] <bipul> Yes i have pressed the Right CTRL
[13:45] <elfy> +1
[13:45] <bipul> yes
[13:45] <bipul> working
[13:45] <elfy> right - so do the other things I've asked please and tell us the version of systemd and the status of lightdm
[13:46] <bipul> ok sure.
[13:55] <bipul> Well, after getting into tty mode, i have updated it and upgraded it. After that i have used startx to start with GUI mode, then i have been asked to install xinit Package.I have installed that package after again when i try with startx i was getting Blank screen
[13:55] <lordievader> bipul: Seems like you are missing packages...
[13:57] <elfy> and not all that good at giving people information they've asked for
[13:58] <bipul> Yes when i get back to tty, it shows me xauth: file /home/bipul/.Xauthority does not exist
[13:58] <lordievader> bipul: Read the backlog and answer elfy's questions please
[13:58] <bipul> ok
[14:03] <bipul> elfy:  dpkg -l systemd this is the command?
[14:03] <elfy> yes - so is the other one
[14:03] <elfy> there are 2 commands
[14:03] <bipul> 208-8ubuntu7
[14:04] <bipul> there to many -cron ,-dbg,-gui,-shiv,-sysv,-ui
[14:04] <elfy> ?
[14:05] <elfy> sudo service lightdm status is the other one - but it's all a bit late now - you've done other things and have logged in
[14:06] <bipul> well when i executed this command dpkg -l systemd , I got 208-8ubuntu7 in version.
[14:06] <elfy> yea ok - that's the current version
[14:06] <elfy> and should be if you downloaded and installed the latest ubuntu desktop image
[14:07] <elfy> if you've still got an issue I'd go and ask in #ubuntu-quality if someone else is seeing the same issue as you
[14:07] <bipul> yes just now 2 hours before i have downloaded that .iso file
[14:08] <elfy> the wrong one - that was desktop-next - that's not ubuntu
[14:08] <elfy> if you've got problems with ubuntu-next ask in #ubuntu-quality what would be the best place to go to ask about it
[14:08] <bipul> elfy: oh ok, i will
[14:09] <bipul> status
[14:21] <elfy> for anyone following and not knowing - which I didn't - ubuntu-next fails in vm currently :)
[14:27] <lordievader> elfy: You tested it?
[14:27] <elfy> no - it's in a wiki :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso
[14:27] <lordievader> bipul: ^
[14:27] <elfy> I only just about bother trying the ubuntu images
[14:28] <lordievader> Ah, fun.
[14:28] <elfy> lordievader: bipul knows - he went to -quality found out there :)
[14:28] <bipul> lordievader: yes
[14:28] <lordievader> elfy: Thanks for the heads up tough :)
[14:28] <elfy> I only just about bother trying the ubuntu images when there might be an issue that's *buntu wide so I don't have to worry the small xubuntu team
[14:29] <elfy> is what I meant to say :)
[14:29]  * bipul is new to testing.
[14:29] <elfy> bipul: we all were once :)
[14:29] <bipul> :) yeah , I wanted to learn this art of testing.
[14:30] <lordievader> bipul: Checkout kvm, its faster and nicer than vb ;)
[14:30] <elfy> and picked something odd to start with :D
[14:30] <bipul> oh ok
[14:32]  * elfy started looking at kvm once
[15:00] <vitimiti> Hi
[15:01] <lordievader> o/
[15:23] <BluesKaj> elfy, how did bipul's install go?
[15:30] <elfy> BluesKaj: was trying to install desktop-next in a vm - that doesn't work apparently
[15:31] <BluesKaj> elfy, yes it's very experimental and unstable
[15:32] <elfy> indeed - I wasn't aware that it's that bad in vm though :)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> thought he was trying to install the regular image..still think VB was mucking it up
[15:33] <elfy> no he was definitely trying -next
[15:33] <elfy> and today's image works in vb here
[15:34] <BluesKaj> thought he had switched
[15:34] <elfy> nope
[15:35] <ObrienDave> ooo, dailies working in VB finally?
[15:35] <elfy> well xubuntu is - not tried others
[15:35] <BluesKaj> perhaps his VB settings weren't correct ...graphics
[15:36] <elfy> BluesKaj: it's a known issue with vb
[15:36] <ObrienDave> ok, will try studio and xubuntu in a bit
[15:36] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso
[15:36] <elfy> Better to test on real hardware since Mir doesn't support VMs yet (though it's said to be working in vmware with 3d enabled)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> not a VM fan, don't think I ever will be
[15:37] <elfy> :)
[15:38] <elfy> I'd not use them for anything destined to be installed for longer than a day
[16:39] <dupondje> new bug since recently ?
[16:39] <dupondje> got a cursor being stuck in the middle of my screen
[16:39] <dupondje> just the image of a cursor. Can move my cursor, but a duplicate is stuck in the middle :(
[19:18] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:20] <elfy> hi vitimiti - how's Thursday going
[19:21] <vitimiti> Fine, thanks