[00:00] <h16h> is there any RDP client available that supports Multiple Monitors?
[00:00] <kenny__> hi guys, new to irc in general, but heard there are great communities.  Do I just ask a question here?
[00:01] <ObrienDave> pretty much, yes
[00:01] <daftykins> kenny__: no, this is for ubuntu support only. you can go and ask in #freenode though
[00:01] <daftykins> (for anything else)
[00:01] <kenny__> It's a ubuntu question.
[00:01] <reisio> h16h: VNC
[00:01] <daftykins> yay \o/
[00:01] <daftykins> then please do
[00:01] <ObrienDave> then ask away :)
[00:02] <h16h> reisio: I'm looking for a solution that doesn't require multiple monitors to be plugged physically into that machine
[00:03] <h16h> reisio: in other words, I am trying to remote to a laptop, but use both monitors from host machine
[00:03] <reisio> h16h: what? :p
[00:03] <nith1210> h16h: If you're ok with shared mouse/keyboard but different programs on laptop and host machine, you can look into Synergy.
[00:04] <kenny__> Cool, very friendly. :)  The border for apps (specifically Firefox) is VERY thin.  Hard to grab.  Especially, using seamless mode.  Anyone know a way to get that thicker to make it easier to grab?
[00:04] <reisio> h16h: you want a single "screen" stretched across two monitors, or vice versa?
[00:04] <h16h> nith1210: not exactly what I need
[00:04] <kenny__> Tried this, but doesn't work. "Another workaround is to hack the theme itself. For the Ambiance theme edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml and in the section starting <frame_geometry name="frame_geometry_normal" change left_width, right_width and bottom_height from 1 to 3."
[00:04] <nith1210> kenny__: If you hold ALT then RIGHT click and drag, it'll resize a window no matter where you grab it
[00:05] <h16h> reisio: i am remoting to a laptop running Windows 7 from my Ubuntu machine. Ubuntu has two monitors, the laptop obviously only has one
[00:05] <sludgefrog> Why is ‘continue’ greyed out in the install dialog, page “install Ubuntu alongside windows 8” ,etc etc.?  It doesn’t matter what I choose.
[00:05] <kenny__> this is for fool-proof end-users..so no keyboard combos.
[00:05] <h16h> reisio: if i were running Windows on my host as well, I could enable that remote session to work across both monitors (extended desktop), not stretching or mirroring etc
[00:06] <reisio> h16h: okay
[00:06] <reisio> h16h: you can do that, yes
[00:06] <reisio> h16h: you can have VNC start two X servers, or twinview or whatever it would normally for two monitors
[00:07] <reisio> oh sorry the remote is Windows :p
[00:07] <reisio> hrmmm
[00:07] <h16h> so basically I'm looking for the "use All monitors" option found in mstsc (Microsoft), in some solution now that I've transitioned to Ubuntu =)
[00:08] <squinty> nith1210,  two boxes here one running gnome3 and the other unity... neither responding to expanding on alt right click drag.  :)
[00:08] <reisio> h16h: hrmmm, I guess you should check with xrdp first
[00:08] <h16h> reisio: thanks
[00:09] <Bashing-om> tj
[00:10] <docmur> I have minidlna installed and for some reason only 13 folders out of 200 are showing up on my xBox, has anyone seen this?  I'm running 14.04
[00:10] <daftykins> docmur: you shared 200 folders?
[00:10] <docmur> well in minidlna, private to my network
[00:11] <daftykins> docmur: why not put those 200 in one folder and share... one? :D
[00:11] <reisio> h16h: I just read that 'realvnc has the use all monitors option', whether that applies to windows boxes too is another matter :) would still check xrdp first
[00:11] <h16h> reisio: thanks reading now =)
[00:11] <nith1210> squinty: try ALT + MouseWheel instead.
[00:13] <reisio> h16h: so you wanted remote windows fake monitor one on real monitor 1, and remote windows fake monitor two on real monitor 2, same session?
[00:13] <nith1210> squinty: ALT+MouseWheel on unity and gnome3, ALT+RightClick on KDE (atleast on my box)
[00:18] <kenny__> anyone know how to make app (firefox specifically) BORDERS larger so that it's easier to grab for resizing?  No keyboard shortcuts please.
[00:18] <daftykins> no idea, always seen that as an issue with Ubuntu though
[00:18] <daftykins> can't believe it passes user experience testing
[00:19] <kenny__> oh, so it's a known thing?
[00:19] <kenny__> darn...
[00:19] <daftykins> well, i'm familiar with it being a real pain to try and grab the window resize controls, yeah
[00:19] <kenny__> my granny has a hard time resizing.
[00:19] <daftykins> i don't know about being 'known' known :)
[00:19] <h16h> reisio: yes, exactly. but i figured it out ..thanks to some searching
[00:20] <h16h> reisio: using freerdp, i can do "xfreerdp -u username --no-nla -f RemoteIPAddress"
[00:20] <h16h> it's the --no-nla that makes it work..no idea what that means but I'm about to find out lol
[00:21] <daftykins> no network level authentication
[00:22] <reisio> h16h: cool, is that even in the docs? :p
[00:22] <reisio> my freerdp doesn't even have a man page :p
[00:22] <reisio> although _usually_ rdesktop's man page applies
[00:23] <h16h> reisio: well, not exactly lol, not that combination of options to make this work atleast
[00:24] <squinty> i will second that on window resize being a pain too.
[00:26] <reisio> h16h: how not?
[00:28] <h16h> reisio: sorry it had nothing to do with --no-nla (disabling TLS), as long as I use -f (full screen), i get what I want
[00:28] <h16h> reisio: i was getting a different behavior last night, wth..i must be confused
[00:28] <reisio> oh...
[00:28] <reisio> so just with -f it covers both monitors, but they act as separate monitors should?
[00:29] <h16h> reisio: sorry ignore everything..LOL . FreeRDP is perfect. Exactly, it covers both monitors but behave as separate monitors as well with -f
[00:29] <reisio> h16h: oh neat, I had no idea :p
[00:29] <h16h> this is great. I like to come home and dock my laptop (just network and power), then remote into it from my main machine with nice huge 27" screens
[00:29] <reisio> I'm sure anyone who'd used freerdp/rdesktop with two monitors could've told you that :p
[00:30] <h16h> the dock is connected to a hardware vpn hence all this crap
[00:30] <reisio> yeah, windows, crap :p
[00:30] <h16h> lol
[00:30] <h16h> Remmina doesn't work this way, that much I do remember
[00:31] <reisio> well that's a frontend for rdesktop/freerdp
[00:31] <reisio> who knows wtf it does
[00:31] <reisio> it's true that freerdp is supposed to have newer fancies than rdesktop, though
[00:31] <daftykins> tsk tsk language, reisio
[00:31] <reisio> although I've only encountered one myself
[00:31] <reisio> daftykins: tsk tsk boring commentary, daftykins
[00:32] <daftykins> well, you should follow the rules, sir
[00:32] <reisio> I don't know if I should, but I do, so...
[00:32]  * reisio yawns
[00:32]  * reisio goes to put something in the oven
[00:35] <samthewildone> Question, I'm using gnome3-shell and wondered if there is a way to have the minimize / maximize button ?
[00:36] <samthewildone> In Unity, Gnome2 and pretty much every other unix flavor has this built in...
[00:40] <reisio> samthewildone: hard to imagine otherwise
[00:40] <reisio> samthewildone: gnome-tweak-tool
[00:40] <samthewildone> reisio, already did
[00:40] <reisio> use eeet
[00:40] <reisio> advanced settings
[00:42] <samthewildone> reisio, where is this advance settings in gtt ?
[00:42]  * reisio shrugs
[00:42] <reisio> arrangement of buttons?
[00:42] <reisio> on the titlebar?
[00:42] <reisio> change from 'close only'
[00:42] <reisio> I wonder what on earth they were thinking :p
[00:43] <reisio> must've wanted to promote some new alternative feature, like the exposé thing
[00:43] <samthewildone> reisio, this is what i'm talking about > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFRHMwN2lmUHJrTUE/edit?usp=sharing
[00:44] <samthewildone> there is no minimize and maximize buttons...
[00:44] <samthewildone> just a x
[00:44] <reisio> yup, I knew what you meant :)
[00:44] <reisio> pretty red/orange
[00:44] <hydraidm801> I installed gnome3, it was meh, ppa-purged it. reinstalled unity. Now unity is all screwed up
[00:44] <hydraidm801> how do I fix unity?
[00:44] <samthewildone> hydraidm801, oh boy
[00:45] <hydraidm801> I can't login without going to tty1 and entering setsid unity
[00:45] <samthewildone> hydraidm801, you might have run into some errors...
[00:45] <hydraidm801> I didn't realize unity was based on gnome
[00:45] <samthewildone> what kind of errors you getting ?
[00:45] <hydraidm801> icons are weird a mix of old gnome and unity
[00:46] <hydraidm801> the whole not being about to login is frustrating
[00:46] <nith1210> hydraidm801: black screen no lightdm?
[00:47] <hydraidm801> I get a lightdm login screen but after I enter my password it does nothing
[00:47] <nith1210> hydraidm801: have you checked /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[00:48] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: you removed Unity when you installed Gnome?
[00:48] <k1l> hydraidm801: make sure .Xauthority in /home belongs to user:user
[00:49] <hydraidm801> its django:django
[00:50] <k1l> if that is your user its fine then
[00:50] <hydraidm801> lightdm.log has interesting things but I don't know what they mean
[00:50] <hydraidm801> it is
[00:50] <nith1210> hydraidm801: what's your username?
[00:50] <hydraidm801> django
[00:50] <nith1210> hydraidm801: would you please pastebin lightdm.log?
[00:50] <hydraidm801> k
[00:51] <aukaicue> how do I get syntax highlighting in vim for golang?
[00:52] <hydraidm801> http://dpaste.com/0DSNWV1
[00:53] <Snake2k> aukaicue: https://github.com/fatih/vim-go maybe
[00:54] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: I wonder if line 67 should've been --session=unity :|
[00:55]  * nith1210 goes to log into unity to find out
[00:56] <nith1210> brb
[00:57] <nith1210> Mine says /usr/sbin/lightdm-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu
[00:58] <nith1210> hydraidm801: When you're logging, there is a little icon at the top right of the login box, would you please click on that and select "Ubuntu (default)"?
[01:00] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: Hmmm I wonder if "ubuntu-desktop" was erased when he removed unity as well...
[01:07] <nith1210> !ping
[01:08] <Bolt_Thrower138> lolz
[01:08] <pentester> Hey
[01:08] <pentester> i have a question..?
[01:08] <nith1210> !ask
[01:08] <pentester> i have blackbuntu and i tried a sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <pentester> but its not working
[01:09] <Ben64> only ubuntu is supported here, not other ones
[01:09] <pentester> it is ubuntu
[01:09] <Ben64> no, its blackbuntu
[01:09] <pentester> well could you tell me how to fix it atleast
[01:09] <Ben64> no, since it's not ubuntu, it isn't supported in this channel
[01:10] <Wulframn> pentester: derivatives aren't supported here as they have their own bugs and issues we're not familiar with
[01:10] <pentester> ok do you know a channel i could go to, to get help?
[01:10] <Ben64> judging from the website http://www.blackbuntu.com/ i'd say nowhere
[01:11] <tae1> hi everyone!
[01:11] <tae1> good day everyone!
[01:11] <k1l> !alis | pentester you can search with that
[01:11] <tae1> need your help guys
[01:11] <daftykins> tae1: ask a question then
[01:13] <JCT> so cool.
[01:13] <penguin1> Hi Good Day Everyone!
[01:13] <JCT> guess what windows 7?
[01:13] <JCT> ubuntu is 2x better that 7!
[01:13] <JCT> 14! 14! yay
[01:13] <JCT> hi tux
[01:13] <JCT> lol
[01:14] <Snake2k> Linux Distros > Life
[01:14] <nith1210> !offtopic
[01:14] <JCT> oh.
[01:14] <Wulframn> JCT: the enter key is not the space bar
[01:14] <JCT> i'm sorry, maybe i should use one line.
[01:14] <hydraidm801> Snake2k: Ubuntu-desktop is at newest
[01:15] <JCT> version 14
[01:15] <Wulframn> Just be careful or you'll be muted/kicked for flooding
[01:15] <JCT> .... ok. i'm just talkative
[01:15] <Ben64> JCT: you can be talkative in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:15] <hydraidm801> I don't have a time, network manager, or logout icon in the top right
[01:15] <JCT> oh wowm i'll join that channel
[01:16] <Wulframn> That's fine but 1) off-topic needs to go in the off-topic channel and 2) flood bots are a thing
[01:17] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: Hmmmm weird, how many options for DEs do you get at the login screen?
[01:18] <nith1210> hydraidm801: I recommend "sudo apt-get install tasksel", then run it with sudo and select "Ubuntu desktop"; if you're missing packages, it'll install them for you. After that it's log surfing
[01:19] <hydraidm801> i have tasksel ...
[01:20] <hydraidm801> ubuntu desktop is already checked
[01:20] <penguin1> Hi All anyone can help me? I just want to ask about the  bash vulnerability (ShellShock)
[01:20] <hydraidm801> i guess i can reboot and go to the login screen it will take me a few minutes to get back
[01:20] <Sachiru> @Penguin1: What about it?
[01:21] <Sachiru> @Penguin1: If your computer is behind a firewall you are protected against shellshock attacks from external sources.
[01:21] <Guest89659> what is taskel for ?
[01:21] <daftykins> selecting multiple package setups in one go
[01:21] <daftykins> Guest89659: such as adding a desktop environment or web server
[01:21] <penguin1> hi @Sachiru Is there any impact on other running services like mysql-server, apache2 , phpmyadmin, vsftpd when I update the bash program?
[01:21] <Guest89659> daftykins: thanks
[01:21] <hydraidm801> tasksel is for installing a server the easy way
[01:22] <penguin1> @Sachiru using sudo apt-get update && apt-get install bash
[01:22] <Sachiru> Assuming that the upgrade is done the proper way (via apt-get upgrade), I don't see any issues with other running services
[01:22] <Sachiru> Unless you use some form of obscure voodoo magic with your Apache server.
[01:22] <Sachiru> That relies heavily on a very specific version of bash, or relies on the bug that triggers the shellshock exploit
[01:23] <hydraidm801> normal operations under apache  == voodoo magic
[01:23] <Guest89659> how do you add facebook and twitter ?
[01:24] <samthewildone> How do I add folders to bookmarks ?
[01:24] <hydraidm801> lol wat?
[01:24] <ahklerner> apt-get install facebook twitter
[01:24] <roasted> herro
[01:24] <k1l> Guest89659: can you rephrse?
[01:25] <roasted> anybody know offhand how often Unity's search re-scans files? Just curious as I downloaded a file, searched for it, and the dash couldn't find it.
[01:25] <penguin1> @sachiru actually i'm about to apply this on our live production server ubuntu server 10.04 lts, ubuntu server 12.04 lts
[01:25] <penguin1> For Debian, Ubuntu
[01:25] <penguin1> [01:25] <penguin1> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --only-upgrade bash
[01:25] <penguin1>     or
[01:25] <penguin1> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bash
[01:25] <unopaste> penguin1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[01:25] <Guest89659> k1l: sorry I meant in smuxi app, I guess wrong irc channel for that question
[01:25] <jorge__> hello All
[01:26] <liamoneillgordon> hello ubuntu pals
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> Hello ubuntu
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> I have a big problem with ubuntu server
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> midway through the command line installation, it asks for a cdrom
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> but this is an installation on a USB
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> in 2014.
[01:26] <Foxhoundz> What gives?4
[01:27] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: might be a bad usb, try checking md5 and re-writing the usb
[01:28] <Foxhoundz> Ben64: I tried two different USBs
[01:28] <Foxhoundz> and redownloaded the ISO
[01:28] <hydraidm801> back
[01:29] <hydraidm801> at lightdm login screen there is no option to select Ubuntu(default) or classic or anything
[01:29] <liamoneillgordon> welcome back!
[01:29] <liamoneillgordon> is there any good ubuntu books out there?
[01:29] <liamoneillgordon> for noobs
[01:29] <hydraidm801> man
[01:29] <Ben64> Foxhoundz: try writing it a different method
[01:30] <hydraidm801> don't worry about ubuntu just learn *nix
[01:30] <liamoneillgordon> haha, i am slowly!
[01:30] <liamoneillgordon> thanks! i have a few books on it
[01:30] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Do you know how to use "screen" or "tmux"? It might make logging out and in easier with irc (assuming you're using a terminal client).
[01:30] <hydraidm801> yes
[01:30] <Foxhoundz> I found a workaround online by basically mounting /dev/sdb under /cdrom
[01:30] <hydraidm801> no I am using xchat
[01:30] <hydraidm801> i can manage through tmux
[01:31] <Foxhoundz> Buy a cheap vps and set up tmux and weechat
[01:31] <Foxhoundz> you'll never go back
[01:32] <hydraidm801> one thing i noticed is that at lightdm login screen I do have clock, network manager, volume ect in top right
[01:32] <hydraidm801> I have a lot of vps's but I use rsync and do my coding in sublime and stay out of vim/tmux these days
[01:33] <Foxhoundz> sigh...ok..another problem. After "Installing the system" phase on my Ubuntu server installation process, "Configure package manager" doesn't seem to do anything
[01:33] <liamliam> what's sublime?
[01:33] <nith1210> hydraidm801: The ability to swap between desktops is directly above the right side of the password box in the form of a small, circular icon.
[01:34] <hydraidm801> nith1210: I know. But there isn't a small circualr icon at my login is what I am saying
[01:35] <hydraidm801> liamlaim: sublime text is a text editor with IDE like functionality
[01:35] <liamliam> oh, cool
[01:37] <hydraidm801> i guess my next move is to install a new DM and reinstall unity
[01:37] <samthewildone> what do I need to install to get my bluetooth headset working for audio playback ?
[01:37] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Are you, per chance, still using GDM to log in?
[01:37] <nith1210> hydraidm801: what's the ls -l /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[01:37] <hydraidm801> nith1210: i wish, that went bye bye when I uninstalled gnome
[01:38] <nith1210> hydraidm801: oh, gdm is easy to install and will work in lightdm's place.
[01:38] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: Vim > Life
[01:38] <nith1210> hydraidm801: I don't know if it will provide the same list of session though.
[01:39] <hydraidm801> Snake2k: I've spent years making my vim.rc and I sit at sublime text and wonder why I wasted so many years
[01:40] <Snake2k> hydraidm801: k :|
[01:40] <hydraidm801> trying to install gdm .... holy dependency hell
[01:41] <hydraidm801> is there a way to force aptitude to grab all dependencies of a package>
[01:42] <Ben64> hydraidm801: what are you trying to do
[01:42] <hydraidm801> install gdm
[01:42] <Ben64> hydraidm801: why
[01:43] <hydraidm801> gdm needs gnome-shell which needs gir1.2-mutter, lubmuter9c, gnome-shell-common
[01:43] <hydraidm801> did you just get here Ben64??
[01:43] <Ben64> "sudo apt-get install gdm" will install gdm
[01:43] <Ben64> you don't have to worry about dependencies unless you're doing something very strange
[01:44] <nith1210> hydraidm801: I didn't realize gnome-shell was included in that list.
[01:44] <hydraidm801> don't have to worry about dependencies in a debian system ... lol
[01:44] <nith1210> It is, I just didn't realize it was.
[01:44] <Ben64> hydraidm801: i've been here for years. you were missing the clock and some other stuff in unity, not sure what you think gdm is going to do
[01:44] <hydraidm801> basically unity is half broken
[01:45] <Ben64> that still doesn't explain anything
[01:45] <hydraidm801> this happened when I ppa-purged gnome
[01:45] <Ben64> ah there we go
[01:45] <Ben64> hydraidm801: so what is your end goal
[01:45] <hydraidm801> to get unity functional again
[01:46] <hydraidm801> apt-get update didn't work
[01:46] <Ben64> why did you purge gnome
[01:46] <hydraidm801> cause I didn't like gnome 3
[01:46] <hydraidm801> I didn't realize unity was based off gnome at the time
[01:47] <reisio> :)
[01:48] <Ben64> hydraidm801: what version of ubuntu
[01:49] <Snake2k> sudo apt-get install unity*
[01:49] <Snake2k> :|
[01:49] <Snake2k> Don't do that lol
[01:50] <hydraidm801> 14.02
[01:52] <hydraidm801> so how can i remove unity and reinstall ?
[01:53] <xangua> Maybe you could start from the beginning hydraidm801
[01:53] <xangua> Sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <hydraidm801> xangua, that just says I am at the newest
[01:54] <hydraidm801> I think I need to remove it reinstall it
[01:54] <nith1210> hydraidm801: My vote is still on gdm. You said your unity session works fine after you login right?
[01:55] <hydraidm801> yeah but I have to "setsid unity" first lol
[01:55] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Right, and given your lightdm log, lightdm is not starting the correct session. Given that lightdm is broken and now allowing you to switch sessions, my vote is another login manager.
[01:56] <Ben64> gdm isn't going to change anything
[01:56] <nith1210> Ben64: It does if lightdm is the issue.
[01:56] <Ben64> its not
[01:56] <nith1210> Ben64: If he logs into TTY and runs unity desktop with setsid he gets a sessoin and life is good.
[01:57] <nith1210> *session
[01:57] <hydraidm801> I can't install gdm it says I have held broken packages
[01:57] <nith1210> hydraidm801: that might be the root issue then
[01:57] <nith1210> hydraidm801: apt-get -f install
[01:57] <Ben64> hydraidm801: can you pastebin "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:58] <hydraidm801> ...
[01:58] <hydraidm801> http://dpaste.com/048M52A
[01:59] <nith1210> hydraidm801: did you run apt-get -f install before that and if so, did it do anything?
[01:59] <hydraidm801> no I didn't
[01:59] <Ben64> hydraidm801: what ppas do you have
[02:00] <hydraidm801> I wonder if uh what is it called xauthority is working?
[02:00] <Ben64> ls -l /home/<you>/.Xauthority
[02:01] <marcjs> hey, does a programm exist, that tells me the memory usage of a command? like `time myprogramm` it does: something like `memory myprogramm `. I want to run a programm and want at the end read out the memory used by this programm in my app.
[02:02] <hydraidm801> policy kit authentication agent!
[02:05] <daftykins> marcjs: watch it with top or htop
[02:05] <hydraidm801> http://dpaste.com/2T4YD5A
[02:06] <Ben64> hydraidm801: reinstall and be more careful next time, especially with apt-get purge
[02:07] <marcjs> daftykins but I need to read it programmatically, means I need it at the end when the command is done
[02:07] <hydraidm801> I can't reinstall it would take weeks to reconfigure all my dev servers
[02:07] <daftykins> marcjs: ah, oh well no idea
[02:08] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Something else you could try is re-adding the gnome3 ppa then trying to install gdm again.
[02:08] <hydraidm801> that might work
[02:08] <nith1210> hydraidm801: if your adiment about not reinstalling, just house them both and use one.
[02:08] <xangua> hydraidm801: it looks like you have a PPA of gnome 3.12 still enabled, also you didn't say how you removed the PPA neither said what PPA
[02:09] <hydraidm801> sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
[02:09] <hydraidm801> sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[02:09] <hydraidm801> i ran those
[02:10] <hydraidm801> apt-mark showhold
[02:10] <hydraidm801> oops
[02:10] <Ben64> you must still have conflicts with PPAs. good luck with that
[02:11] <hydraidm801> this article is dangerous BTW http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/upgrade-gnome-3-10-ubuntu-13-10
[02:11] <hydraidm801> thats how I got into this whole mess
[02:13] <xangua> They always explain those PPA will likely break unity hydraidm801
[02:14] <hydraidm801> I just always thought unity was it's own thing I didn't realize it was a part of gnome fork
[02:15] <xangua> And that's why it uses nautilus, eye of gnome, etc.
[02:15] <xangua> Gnome terminal ;-)
[02:23] <hydraidm801> im going to install xfce and try to remove and reinstall unity
[02:24] <reisio> hydraidm801: what does xfce have to do with that? :0
[02:24] <hydraidm801> just want to have a stable DM before I break everything completely
[02:40] <hydraidm801> i can't mount a drive
[02:40] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Error message?
[02:40] <hydraidm801> not authorized to perform operation
[02:41] <nith1210> hydraidm801: did you forget to sudo?
[02:41] <hydraidm801> this is in the file manager
[02:42] <nith1210> hydraidm801: ahh, I can't help with Nautilus issues, sorry.
[02:43] <hydraidm801> where do drives usually get mounted to?
[02:43] <hydraidm801> mnt media and opt are empty
[02:44] <nith1210> hydraidm801: is there /media/django (your username was django right?)?
[02:44] <daftykins> hydraidm801: "df -h" will state current mounts, or even just "mount"
[02:46] <nith1210> daftykins: I've always been confused, does that include gvfs mounts?
[02:46] <daftykins> dunno
[02:46] <hydraidm801> my /media/django is empty as well
[02:47] <hydraidm801> ls
[02:47] <daftykins> . ..
[02:49] <hydraidm801> do I mount /dev/sda1 ?
[02:50] <daftykins> hydraidm801: i'm very puzzled because i already said what to run to find out if the drive you're after is mounted, so how come you didn't get an answer?
[02:50] <hydraidm801> oh that command didn't show any of my drives
[02:50] <hydraidm801> just my linux partition
[02:51] <daftykins> hydraidm801: are you in a booted install or a live session?
[02:51] <hydraidm801> booted install
[02:51] <daftykins> what's the disk you're trying to add? is it a one-time mount or permanent?
[02:52] <Suzuya> I need help, I just installed Ubuntu and I downloaded the latest version of Skype, but I cannot do group voice chat or screen sharing
[02:52] <hydraidm801> i have a few 2TB drives connected and using nautilus I don't have permission to mount them. Which is weird cause before all this gnome unity stuff happened I could
[02:53] <hydraidm801> my user is in the sudoers list and I should be able to mount anything
[02:53] <daftykins> Suzuya: pretty sure they removed screen sharing
[02:53] <Suzuya> daftykins, really? It's supposed to work, it's like cloud based or something
[02:53] <daftykins> err
[02:53] <hydraidm801> Suzuya: Google Hangouts has a better screen sharing tool anyways
[02:53] <daftykins> dunno then. i heard something about desktop sharing being removed
[02:53] <daftykins> or something similar
[02:53] <Suzuya> hydraidm801, nobody I know uses hangouts
[02:54] <daftykins> hydraidm801: eh, i'd just run "sudo fdisk -l" to identify the disk + partition, "sudo mkdir /mnt/disk" then "sudo mount -t $filesystem /dev/sdx1 /mnt/disk" for example
[02:54] <hydraidm801> do you know anyone that uses gmail?
[02:54] <daftykins> where $filesystem = ext4, for example
[02:55] <Suzuya> yes, but I'd rather not make them use hangouts
[02:56] <Suzuya> whenever my friends try to share screens it says that im not supported
[02:57] <apabbisetty> anybody around to help ubuntu install on fakeraid ? having issues in ubuntu seeing full size of the fakeraid partition
[02:57] <hydraidm801> Suzuya gmail and hangouts are integrated together now
[02:57] <Suzuya> hydraidm801, Okay? But it's not skype. I don't really care.
[02:58] <hydraidm801> have you tried #skype ?
[02:58] <Suzuya> did not know it existed
[02:59] <daftykins> hydraidm801: i'm heading off now but try the above
[03:00] <hydraidm801> k
[03:00] <nith1210> Skype's most recent version claims to be for 12.04
[03:00] <Suzuya> I guess it isn't supported on linux
[03:00] <Suzuya> I just read that on their website
[03:01] <nith1210> Suzuya: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/skype-no-screen-sharing-aftre-upgrade-to-ver-4-3-0-37-a-4175508993/
[03:02] <nith1210> Suzuya: I wouldn't recommend removing .config though unless you're ok with loosing ALL your settings.
[03:02] <Suzuya> nith1210, thank you
[03:02] <nith1210> Suzuya: np, I'm installing skype now, I'll see if I can give you a more specific folder to remove to clear skype's settings.
[03:03] <daftykins> just rename rather than delete
[03:03] <daftykins> .config -> .configold
[03:06] <nith1210> Suzuya: Sorry, I couldn't find anything specific, if you want to try it out then daftykins' suggestion is the best. Close skype, rename folder, start skype, test, put folder back.
[03:07] <nith1210> Suzuya: The only settings I found were in ~/.Skype ; you might renaming that instead but if skype was a fresh install, it'll probably do the samething.
[03:14] <Suzuya> nith1210, yeah I tried renaming the folder and starting up again and still I have those features disabled, I guess the website is correct that it doesn't work. I'll just have to use my windows for skype from now on.
[03:15] <nith1210> Suzuya: I hate that feeling. Sorry we couldn't do more.
[03:15] <Suzuya> nith1210, it's fine. probably microsoft's fault
[03:15] <nith1210> Suzuya: Actually, on this one I blame skype.
[03:17] <Suzuya> Now the only thing I have to figure is that somehow I installed Ubuntu's bootloader on my EFI partition, but somehow Windows 8 and GRUB/ubuntu are seperate.
[03:33] <karex> Hi everybody, if you install (or just copy/extract) an application not by using apt-get or dpkg, where do you place it? "/opt"? "$HOME/.something"?
[03:34] <reisio> karex: preferably /dev/null :)
[03:34] <reisio> karex: $HOME/.something is probably the least awful way
[03:34] <reisio> if it even allows that
[03:34] <jengar> normally opt is used fo this
[03:35] <nith1210> karex: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[03:35] <reisio> well, normally opt is used for things still done by the package manager :p
[03:36] <reisio> if you keep it in ~/, you have a chance of being able to clean up its mess in future
[03:36] <nith1210> karex: Although, I agree with reisio if it's for your own usage exclusively. If its for group usage, you may want to create your own package for it if you can (even if you don't distribute it).
[03:38] <karex> reisio: nith1210 's link says "/opt can be used to store addition software for your system, which is not handled by the package manager."
[03:39] <karex> If I use $HOME/.something, what is "something" usually named?
[03:39] <nith1210> karex: Completely agree, says so in the doc; but it can be easier to manage in ~/ for one-off programs.
[03:40] <hydraidm801> I fixed unity!!
[03:40] <nith1210> karex: In the single user case, i'm not sure opt is worth it.
[03:40] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Please do tell.
[03:40] <hydraidm801> so stupid
[03:40] <hydraidm801> I installed XFCE through tasksel
[03:41] <hydraidm801> then I uninstalled ubuntu desktop
[03:41] <hydraidm801> then in a XFCE session I installed unity through tasksel
[03:41] <hydraidm801> hahaha!
[03:41] <reisio> karex: you should use a package manager
[03:42] <hydraidm801> everything is back to normal so back to work.
[03:42] <hydraidm801> oh how do I change my icons back to ambience?
[03:42] <karex> reisio: nith1210: Thank you.
[03:43] <karex> reisio: Unfortunately not all apps I need provided in the repo.
[03:43] <nith1210> hydraidm801: congrats
[03:44] <nith1210> karex: nor me, hense why I suggested you package it yourself. That way you can ensure install is clean, uninstall is clean and it's properly integrated.
[03:44] <reisio> karex: lies :p
[03:45] <nith1210> karex: Either way, at this point it's philosophical and not support. /opt for no package manager.
[03:45] <karex> nith1210: how complicated :D
[03:46] <nith1210> karex: Package creation? It really depends on the software. If it's a tarball, it can be cake. If it's an installer and you do it properly... it can be... involved.
[03:46] <nith1210> karex: do you plan to install this on more than one machine and for more than just your own usage?
[03:48] <nith1210> karex: If no, don't worry about it. If yes: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[03:48] <nith1210> hydraidm801: Not sure about the icons, sorry.
[03:48] <karex> nith1210: yes, I've read parts of debian/ubuntu packaging before, and then I went sleepy reading it
[03:51] <sludgefrog> My console windows (ctrl-alt-f2, for example) have a completely black screen. I think I have a video incompatibility. How do I force this to text mode?
[03:53] <karex> nith1210: In home dir, how to name it? ~/.app ~/.bin/app ~/.local/share/app or ...
[03:54] <nith1210> sludgefrog: I'm off but what (I think) you want is "nomodeset" in grub (/etc/default/grub). You should be able to google instructions. As always with grub, tread carefully.
[03:54] <sludgefrog> nith1210:  thanks, will check it out
[03:54] <nith1210> karex: I suggest ~/.bin/app as ~/.app is often used for settings.
[03:55] <nith1210> ~/.local/share/app feels wrong but it could just be that I'm tired.
[03:55] <nith1210> Happy hunting!
[04:00] <jakejay> hello world!
[04:05] <sludgefrog> nomodeset was it!
[04:06] <sludgefrog> how do I kill X? sudo stop service lightdm does not work.
[04:08] <Tim100> where can i download wreless drivers for my laptop acer aspire 5755g?
[04:08] <Tim100> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[04:08] <eeee> sludgefrog: sudo service lightdm stop
[04:10] <Tim100> eeee where can i download wireless drivers for my laptop acer aspire 5755g?
[04:10] <Tim100> i am using uubntu 12.04
[04:11] <eeee> Tim100: check the dash > drivers
[04:14] <Tim100> is there any way i can download them manually?
[04:22] <VanessaE> ok folks, I'm sure this has been discussed to death, but there's so much outdated info and unanswered questions on the web that I'm lost.  Without invoking MakeMKV, AnyDVD, or anything involving ripping or Windows, can someone please tell me how to play a blu ray disc in Linux?  at this point I've got VLC, libaacs, libbdplus (compiled), and one or two libs.
[04:22] <VanessaE> I'm able to play blu-rays, but if they have BD+, their video is garbled.
[04:22] <VanessaE> audio thereof is still okay (if not BD+, the video plays fine)
[04:23] <VanessaE> my reading seems to imply I'm missing some kind of "conversion tables"?  but nothing seems to explain how the heck to get these files, or whether I'm supposed to download them at all.
[04:26] <sethj> VanessaE, while I don't have any blueray disks to tinker with, I doubt getting it to work is possible. A good How To Geek article here http://www.howtogeek.com/138969/why-watching-dvds-on-linux-is-illegal-in-the-usa/ explains the situation with DVDs and FOSS quite well.
[04:26] <somsip> !dvd | VanessaE
[04:26] <slyrus> so I can successfully log in with "ubuntustudio" on my 14.04 box, but if I choose "ubuntu" it hangs after entering my password. any suggestions?
[04:27] <SchrodingersScat> so really we need to contact the ACLU, and fight for rights
[04:28] <VanessaE> sethj: meh, DVDs are nothing new for me.  I'm a pretty well-read geek, but blu-rays are new territory for me.
[04:29] <sethj> VanessaE, yes, I figured you would already know all that. What makes you think BlueRay disks are any different though?
[04:29] <VanessaE> somsip: I'm quite aware; I've long since figured out DVDs, and I can play blu-rays now as well.  it's just this stupid BD+ crap.  I figured someone here had figured it out
[04:29] <somsip> VanessaE: no idea myself. I was just aware of the factoid that might have had something helpful on it
[04:30] <sethj> According to wikipedia  BD+ is just a newer form of encryption. Kinda resets back at square 1 for the whole crack DVDs thing.
[04:32] <VanessaE> sethj: BD+ has allegedly been cracked, so I've read, but everyone seems to want to use those two programs I mentioned, or otherwise do it in Windows, all of which are out of the question for me
[04:32] <VanessaE> i.e. I don't want to rip, let alone do it on Windows.  I just want to watch the discs in my lib.  Especially now that my home theater is currently inoperable.
[04:33] <sethj> VanessaE: That doesn't really sound cracked to me :/  You said you have libbdplus?
[04:33] <VanessaE> sethj: yep.
[04:33] <VanessaE> got it from videolan's website.
[04:33] <sethj> You don't by chance have any other BD+ disks to try do you?
[04:34] <sethj> I'm betting libbdplus is just as hit and miss as libdvdcss was.
[04:35] <VanessaE> sethj: I have somewhere around 50 discs.  I've tried only a few so far.  Some exhibited what looks like BD+ corrupted video (such as Silent Movie or Young Frankenstein), the others just work as long as I don't need menus (Amelie for example).  One I tried worked but wasn't too useful without menus (Star Trek:TOS season 1, disc 1)
[04:36] <frankenstein> I'm old.
[04:36] <aldair> hello
[04:36] <VanessaE> I literally haven't had time to try my whole library - I just unboxed the drive today (it's replacing a failed unit)
[04:36] <VanessaE> s/unit/DVD reader/
[04:38] <sethj> Have you seen this VanessaE? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/BluRay
[04:38] <VanessaE> yep, been there already
[04:39] <viscera> Howcome for the same user account and block device, smartctl returns SMART data but GNOME Disks doesn't (disabled menu)?
[04:39] <sethj> So basically you are just looking for these tables to decrypt the data, since you (apparently) don't have the right ones?
[04:39] <viscera> Oh wait
[04:39] <VanessaE> sethj: no
[04:40] <viscera> Yeah, both are running as superuser
[04:41] <VanessaE> sethj: I'm actually confused about that - some of the sites I've read claim it simply won't work, some say I need some kind of conversion tables (but then of course they don't say where they come from), and some say it should just work.
[04:41] <VanessaE> I know dvdcss just works since it reads the keys from the disc, and a standalone bluray player does the same thing, that's why I'm confused as to what REALLY is needed here
[04:42] <VanessaE> one page (I think it was from the Arch Wiki) implied getting them out of MakeMKV but that sounds totally wrong since the site for that package as neither a Linux version for download, nor an obvious separate package for those tables.
[04:43] <VanessaE> so those tables sounds like the wrong thing.
[04:43] <VanessaE> so I must be missing a library or somethinbg
[04:43] <VanessaE> -b
[04:44] <sethj> It's possible. From what I can gather they keep tweaking the spec as cracking gets better.
[04:44] <VanessaE> yeah, that's what I read also.
[04:44] <sethj> What about libblueray-git?
[04:44] <slyrus> any suggestions on how to begin to debug the post-login window-manager hang?
[04:45] <VanessaE> I haven't tried it from git yet.  I checked the commit log, but didn't see anything obvious there that suggested anything that would help.  I'll give that a shot later after the current movie is dun
[04:45] <sethj> slyrus, take a look in /var/log/xorg.0.conf. All my hangs have been graphics card/driver issues.
[04:45] <VanessaE> er..dun?  done*
[04:45]  * VanessaE sighs at her horrible typing.
[04:45] <VanessaE> (husband is busy watching a DVD at the moment)
[04:46] <slyrus> sethj: ok, thanks. I'm trying to reinstall the nvidia drivers at the moment. perhaps that will force a reinitialization of the xorg.0.conf
[04:46] <sethj> VanessaE, worth a try I guess. Looks to me like it is very hit and miss.
[04:46] <sethj> slyrus, my bad, I mean /var/log/xorg.0.log, not .conf.
[04:46] <sethj> It's a log file, not a configuration file, sorry.
[04:46] <slyrus> ah, ok
[04:47] <slyrus> i thought something looked funny...
[04:47] <havanamintz> hey i'm mounting drive with sshfs and samba, how do i let these volumes sleep?
[04:47] <havanamintz> mounting drives...
[04:47] <havanamintz> they keep spinning
[04:48] <Sachiru> @havana: It's supposed to automatically sleep if nothing's accessing it for an extended period of time
[04:48] <Sachiru> Check if there's anything accessing it periodically first, me thinks
[04:48] <Sachiru> Ensure that it *CAN* sleep because nobody's using it
[04:49] <havanamintz> sachiru, you're probably right... i've been using crypto wallets, and it keeps the drives constantly active.. might be smart to go to ssd, just for life cycle
[04:51] <Sachiru> Uh...
[04:51] <Sachiru> TBH HDDs have a longer lifespan than SSDs, especially with regards to writes
[04:52] <Sachiru> The gap is shrinking, though.
[04:52] <joshuasm32> How would I keep an application running in the background after it has been closed, using Ubuntu itself (not within an application)?
[04:52] <havanamintz> i know that... which is why im concerned that my big drive has been failing
[04:52] <VanessaE> oh well, bbl.
[04:52] <Sachiru> Also if it's small periodic writes like crypto wallets a HDD should be enough. The power draw of one or two drives writing data is relatively miniscule after all
[04:52] <havanamintz> josheasm32 you could try screen
[04:52] <joshuasm32> screen?
[04:53] <joshuasm32> Is that an application?
[04:53] <Sachiru> @havanamintz: If you really want to see if your drive is failing you can check its SMART status using smartmontools
[04:53] <havanamintz> sachiru: i've had a large lacie volume mounted to my server for less than a year, and noticed it needs to be cycled now to mount properly
[04:53] <joshuasm32> Synaptic has the following listing: screen - terminal multiplexer with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
[04:54] <joshuasm32> Is this what you are referring to?
[04:54] <havanamintz> joshuasm32: screen is command line application for just what you may be needing
[04:55] <havanamintz> screen -S screenname;
[04:55] <joshuasm32> ok...
[04:55] <joshuasm32> screenname, is it an application?
[04:55] <havanamintz> screenname is the name of the screen session you're wanting to create
[04:55] <havanamintz> i would look up the use of screen
[04:55] <havanamintz> there are a few commands...
[04:56] <joshuasm32> I apologize for any excessive questions, I am a Linux newb.
[04:56] <somsip> !info screen | joshuasm32
[04:56] <havanamintz> you are talking about running command line applications in the background?
[04:57] <slyrus> well, that's lovely. now I can log in... at 640x480 only...
[04:57] <joshuasm32> ...
[04:57] <joshuasm32> I would like to keep thunderbird running.  Could I see an example syntax?  Thanks
[04:58] <havanamintz> well i dont think screen is what you're looking for
[04:58] <joshuasm32> Oh...
[04:58] <havanamintz> sorry... screen is an app for command line
[04:58] <somsip> joshuasm32: no. If it's closed, it's closed. If you minimise it, it's running
[04:58] <havanamintz> for operating processes with terminal
[04:58] <joshuasm32> I can't seem to find a good extension for it
[04:58] <Sachiru> @havana: I see. Check its SMART status with Smartmontools then
[04:58] <joshuasm32> Programs like pidgin can run through the messaging menu without being open
[04:58] <havanamintz> there you go!... my ubuntu experaince is mostly headless
[04:59] <joshuasm32> Is this possible to do?
[04:59] <somsip> joshuasm32: they are open. They are just minimised (probably to the systray)
[04:59] <joshuasm32> Right
[04:59] <joshuasm32> I don't like having to keep a window open
[04:59] <somsip> joshuasm32: minimise it then
[04:59] <joshuasm32> I would like to be able to close thunderbird and still see notifications...
[04:59] <joshuasm32> for new mail
[04:59] <joshuasm32> i use alt+tab a lot, this is why
[05:00] <havanamintz> sachiru — this is an os x server thats shelling our samba... so i will have to try that option out
[05:00] <somsip> joshuasm32: unsupported: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/minimizetotray-revived/
[05:00] <Sachiru> @havana: IIRC GSmartControl (gui for SmartMonTools) is available for OSX
[05:00] <joshuasm32> ...I've used this in Windows, is this a functioning Linux version?
[05:00] <joshuasm32> Thaks somsip
[05:00] <somsip> joshuasm32: I did mention it was unsupported here
[05:02] <joshuasm32> What do you mean by this?
[05:02] <somsip> joshuasm32: you basically asked "does it work". It's not an official part of ubuntu, so you need to test it yourself
[05:03] <joshuasm32> I do not believe it works...
[05:03] <joshuasm32> No indictor
[05:04] <joshuasm32> is this just because it is not supported?
[05:04] <somsip> joshuasm32: ask the plugin developer
[05:04] <joshuasm32> Alright.
[05:04] <joshuasm32> I'm sorry for the intrusion.
[05:05] <joshuasm32> One last time, to clarify, there is not a terminal command that allows you to run a program from the taskbar using Ubuntu itself?
[05:06] <somsip> joshuasm32: that would be a function of the app (it must be attachable to the systray)
[05:06] <joshuasm32> Thank you.
[05:15] <akiva_> I ran a bash script full of sudo apt-get install commands
[05:15] <akiva_> but I ran it as sudo
[05:15] <yufw> can i intall beta now and upgrade to final release later?
[05:15] <akiva_> and now, none of my programs will run
[05:15] <akiva_> unless I run them in sudo
[05:15] <somsip> yufw: yes, but suport for 14.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[05:15] <akiva_> how do I fix this?
[05:15] <somsip> akiva_: paste the script
[05:15] <somsip> !paste | akiva_
[05:15] <akiva_> sure
[05:15] <kbasher> chmod 755 file_to_Execute
[05:16] <yufw> somsip: thanks
[05:17] <akiva_> somsip: I can't... the browser app is not letting me paste >:/
[05:17] <chovy> how do i minimize a window?
[05:18] <somsip> akiva_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat {filename} | pasebinit
[05:18] <somsip> akiva_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat {filename} | pastebinit
[05:18] <akiva_> somsip: okay
[05:19] <joshua__> hello
[05:19] <akiva_> somsip: its not working
[05:19] <akiva_> somsip: I am getting an error with dpkg
[05:19]  * akiva_ takes a screenshot
[05:20] <Random832> Whenever I use a shortcut key with "alt" in any app, if I release the letter key before releasing the alt key, it opens some menu crap, how do i disable this
[05:21] <Random832> er if i release the alt key first i mean
[05:21] <Random832> like if i press alt-a, and it's <keydown>alt <keydown>a <keyup>alt <keyup>a, i get a weird menu
[05:21] <Random832> how to fix
[05:22] <Random832> (I refuse to accept "carefully press and release the keys in the 'right' order every time, because it's insane and no other OS in the history of ever has done this)
[05:22] <somsip> Random832: press the keys properly. You would you release a modifier and expect the char key not to be recognised?
[05:22] <Random832> somsip: The fact that I pressed a key while having the modifier down means it should not be interpreted as an isolated press of the modifier
[05:22] <Random832> no other OS has ever done this
[05:23] <Random832> it's pretty damn rare to bind actions to isolated modifier keypresses to begin with
[05:24] <Random832> and it doesn't even happen for alt-tab, just for application alt-letter shortcuts
[05:24] <akiva_> why won't this chat let me paste!!!
[05:25] <akiva_> bah
[05:26] <matty_r> use pastebin
[05:26] <akiva__> somsip: http://ibin.co/1cJILIm4X6ia
[05:27] <somsip> akiva__: firstly, there's nothign wrong with that script that I can see. Secondly, 14.10 is in beta and not supported here. Please join #ubuntu+1
[05:28] <akiva__> somsip: fair enough
[05:30] <Random832> somsip: the _normal_ usage of shortcut keys is to release all keys at the same time, rather than carefully in reverse order, once the desired action has taken effect.
[05:31] <Random832> any system that does not support this is broken.
[05:32] <Random832> ("at the same time" means the actual key release events may come in any random order)
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> wich laptop brand would be the fastest on ubuntu to sell in stores?
[05:57] <havanamintz> nasa
[05:58] <havanamintz> ohhh in stores!
[05:58] <tonph> hi all, just new with ubuntu bluetooth softwares, I am trying to set up my bluetooth in my ubuntu 14 box, but not showing up my devices in bluez softeware which I have installed
[05:59] <tonph> how can i check if my hardware and software are right!
[06:00] <tonph> am running ubuntu 14 64 bits
[06:04] <wheeei> So is it impossible to create 3 partions for ubuntu and the same time runt windows 7 because that would equal 5 partions and MBR only supports 4 ?
[06:04] <tonph> I can see this in lsusb : Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[06:04] <wheeei> run*
[06:05] <bubbasaures> what's the disc burner in ubuntu called
[06:06] <squinty> brasero
[06:06] <bubbasaures> thanks
[06:07] <squinty> wheei: you can install linux in an extended partitions and make logical partitions inside that.
[06:08] <LeviSmith> Hi, my system (Ubuntu 14.04) froze and when I tried to reboot, it is not starting. I am getting a screen with following message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8477217/ . Any help please?
[06:08] <wheeei> squinty hm, so I create 1 primary for root and then 2 logical partions for swap and home?
[06:09] <wheeei> squinty if I got 2 harddrives can I have 8 partions or is it still 4 ?
[06:10] <squinty> wheeei: http://gparted.org/  has some good partitioning information.
[06:17] <sgen> I just used "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" to list out my pps's so I can do some cleaning. what are all the duplicate ppas ending in .save ?
[06:18] <LeviSmith> Hi, my system (Ubuntu 14.04) froze and when I tried to reboot, it is not starting. I am getting a screen with following message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8477217/ . Any help please?
[06:18] <sgen> and can I remove them safely
[06:18] <squinty> LeviSmith:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting   Busybox or Initramfs: GRUB 2 began the boot process but there was a problem passing control to the operating system. Possible causes include an incorrect UUID or root= designation in the 'linux' line or a corrupted kernel.
[06:19] <LeviSmith> squinty: Any solution to that?
[06:21] <arcsky> hello can anyone pls be nice and help me kill a process (logstash) ?
[06:24] <squinty> sgen: easier, imho, to use Software Updates > Other Software tab and toogle on/off or remove the ppa's there
[06:24] <penguin1> hi hello everyone!
[06:24] <penguin1> need help!
[06:25] <arcsky> i have tried to kill it but it never get killed, http://pastebin.com/H8wuRugh
[06:25] <sgen> ok but is it save lol
[06:26] <penguin1> how can I update bash of ubuntu 11.10 since the support already expired?
[06:26] <squinty> sgen: do you mean "safe"?  yes. wouldn't suggest it otherwise
[06:26] <penguin1> by the way this is ubuntu server 11.10
[06:26] <penguin1> 64bit
[06:27] <tonph> hi, I dont have windows, and uses ubuntu 14, and I am trying to set up my bluetooth but no luck, m using dell N4010.. any suggestions would be appreciated.
[06:27] <tonph> ubuntu 14, 64 bit .. am on
[06:29] <tonph> looks like ubuntu have depencies on the windows driver.>..
[06:29] <tonph> :(
[06:29] <eeee> penguin1: you have to change archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <sgen> to remove them manuall
[06:29] <sgen> y
[06:29] <eeee> penguin1: sudo sed -i 's/archive./old-releases./' /etc/apt/sources.list , should do it
[06:31] <penguin1> hi @eeee what this command exactly doing?
[06:31] <eeee> replacing archive. with old-releases.
[06:31] <eeee> you can do it manually with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <LeviSmith> Hi, my system (Ubuntu 14.04) froze and when I tried to reboot, it is not starting. I am getting a screen with following message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8477217/ . Any help please?
[06:32] <penguin1> i see @eeee
[06:32] <penguin1> by the way @eeee do you have any link about this?
[06:33] <Taehl_> Greetings, community. Don
[06:33] <Taehl_> t suppose there's anyone here familiar with pyenv?
[06:34] <penguin1> by the way @eeee does this resolves or patch bash vulnerability?
[06:36] <eeee> penguin1: i have no idea if it's been patched for your release
[06:36] <squinty> Taehl_:  might want to try #python channel
[06:37] <penguin1> thanks anyway @eeee
[06:37] <eeee> penguin1: you can install bash after modifying the sources.list , then test to see if it's vulnerable
[06:37] <penguin1> ok I'll try
[06:38] <penguin1> @eeee does it have impact to other running services like apache2, mysql-server, phpmyadmin after updating bash?
[06:38] <Taehl_> Thanks, squinty.
[06:39] <eeee> penguin1: these links might be of interest to you, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades http://askubuntu.com/questions/91815/how-to-install-software-or-upgrade-from-old-unsupported-release
[06:40] <eeee> penguin1: if you're apache2 is using bash to execute commands, etc. then the security is improved
[06:40] <eeee> but physically updating bash will not update anything to do with apache2
[06:45] <somsip> penguin1: 1.4 release patches previously fix vulnerabilities but there are 2 or 3 new ones pending
[06:49] <vibvibgyor1> why ubuntu is provided with xterm?
[06:49] <vibvibgyor1> if we have terminal already?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> vibvibgyor1, it just is.  use the terminal you like or install the one you want.
[06:50] <elisha> oh ok
[06:50] <vibvibgyor1> but what is the role of xterm?
[06:50] <elisha> hey guys is there an omegle for ubuntu?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> vibvibgyor1, terminal.
[06:50] <vibvibgyor1> alright
[06:50] <vibvibgyor1> thaks a lot
[06:51] <LeviSmith> Hi, my system (Ubuntu 14.04) froze and when I tried to reboot, it is not starting. I am getting a screen with following message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8477217/ . Any help please?
[06:51] <vibvibgyor1> I am running ubuntu 14.04 is it possible to get a upgrade to gnome 3.14?
[06:54] <Ben64> vibvibgyor1: not without a ppa
[06:56] <vibvibgyor1> Ben64, if I install required ppa package then?
[06:56] <vibvibgyor1> is it possible?
[06:56] <wheeei> squinty could you plz explain a bit more detailed, I've tried to google and search for this all day yesterday. I had a look at your link but couldn't find anything
[06:56] <Ben64> vibvibgyor1: possibly, but its not recommended or supported here
[06:57] <cfhowlett> vibvibgyor1, ppa's are not supported.  you break it, you fix it.
[06:57] <vibvibgyor1> why is it not recommended...any effects?
[06:57] <vibvibgyor1> ok
[06:57] <vibvibgyor1> thanks
[07:02] <Taehl_> I think I have an error related to the "make" program?
[07:03] <leo> salve a tutti sono nuovo
[07:03] <eeee> Taehl_: what's the error?
[07:03] <eeee> paste anything relevant to missing libraries and such
[07:04] <eeee> or use paste.ubuntu.com
[07:04] <Taehl_> @eeee Here's the log it generated for me: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/XimCyUzMpLJM4UjAe8Sq/
[07:05] <arcsky> none can help ...
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !it | leo,
[07:06] <user_> hello
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <user_>  
[07:07] <unopaste> user_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !patience | arcsky,
[07:08] <arcsky> cfhowlett: ok
[07:09] <LeviSmith> Hi, my system (Ubuntu 14.04) froze and when I tried to reboot, it is not starting. I am getting a screen with following message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8477217/ . Any help please?
[07:18] <awc737> Hello, if you scroll down, what is the "debian" File associated?
[07:18] <awc737> is that to build a package for debian
[07:49] <martinh_> \join #monetas-dev
[07:51] <pali1> sudo qemu-i386 -L / .Skype
[07:52] <pali1> i got this error: Error while loading .Skype: Permission denied
[07:52] <pali1> with sudo same error, please help
[07:52] <Almtesh> Hi everyone!
[07:53] <Almtesh> I'm want to use vnc4server or tighvncserver witout password, how could I handle this?
[07:56] <sgen> so ive gotten myself into a pickle
[07:56] <sgen> I installed ubuntu mate and then decided I didnt like it
[07:56] <sgen> So like an idiot i apt-get install'd unity and apt-get removed mate
[07:56] <sgen> now I cant start a session
[07:57] <sgen> I start my computer it loads to the mate loading screen allos me to type in my username and password and then says "session start failed"
[07:57] <sgen> How can I fix this?
[07:58] <lastleo85> login in recovery and install session manager
[08:02] <syria> Hi , Please help I want to resize LVM partition but I am unable to do this using gparted,
[08:03] <pali1> i try to run skype on a PC without SSE2
[08:03] <pali1> i tried to run with qemu
[08:03] <pali1> sudo qemu-i386 -L / .Skype
[08:03] <pali1> but i got this error: Error while loading .Skype: Permission denied
[08:03] <pali1> i tried with sudo too... same error, please help
[08:08] <iptable> pali1, so why not just run skype natively? I believe skype is 486 compiled
[08:10] <iptable> something is wrong with my timestamps...
[08:11] <auscompgeek> pali1: are you sure .Skype isn't just a directory?
[08:12] <pali1> iptable: since version 4.2, skype will run only on machines with SSE2 instruction set
[08:13] <pali1> a workaround is to run skype in a virtual machine
[08:13] <pali1> a guy is using qemu
[08:13] <pali1> he has a video on youtube and for him it works
[08:14] <pali1> auscompgeek: where is the skype executable?
[08:14] <auscompgeek> pali1: `which skype`
[08:14] <pali1> auscompgeek: which ive just installed
[08:15] <auscompgeek> pali1: no no no. `which skype`
[08:15] <auscompgeek> that wasn't a question.
[08:15] <wheeei> If I got 16GB RAM do I still need a swap-partion?
[08:15] <pali1> auscompgeek: i installed 4.3.0.37-1_i386
[08:16] <Ben64> wheeei: if you need it or want to hibernate
[08:16] <auscompgeek> pali1: as I was saying... I wasn't asking you a question
[08:16] <wheeei> Ben64 ok, I just have this issue that I can't install ubuntu alongside windows because I need to create more than 4 partions >.< I don't get how people do it..
[08:17] <Ben64> wheeei: you can create extended partitions to get around that limit
[08:17] <iptable> pali1, so because someone recorded a youtube video you believe that he is telling the truth and it must work?
[08:17] <pali1> auscompgeek: ty, now ive found it :P
[08:18] <iptable> XD
[08:19] <Mia> Guys, any htop alternative?
[08:19] <Mia> htop doens't show memory usage in MB
[08:19] <wheeei> oki Ben64 I'll google that, cheers. I think I find a guide on how to do it in win7, hope that will work!
[08:19] <Mia> it just shows %
[08:19] <pali1> iptable: this is my last chance to make it work on this old PC
[08:20] <iptable> pali1, find an old version of skype and install it natively. running via an emulator will be slooooooooow (not just slow, sloooooow)
[08:20] <pali1> now it doesn't give me error, just hangs after launching the command
[08:20] <iptable> pali1, you are going to be trying to emulate an actual CPU feature :D Don't. get a version of skype that works for you.
[08:21] <pali1> i will try, but i read that they wont allow to login with an older version
[08:21] <iptable> pali1, from official docs, only video calling won't work without SSE2 on skype. have you actually tried installing and running skype without qemu? qemu skype will be too slow for video anyways
[08:21] <Ca11um> In Ubuntu 14.04 is it possible to change the login screen so it prompts for a username and password? Eventually the system will have hundreds of users, so obviously a 'classic login' would be better than selecting your username from a list.
[08:23] <auscompgeek> Ca11um: which DM?
[08:23] <Ca11um> auscompgeek: sorry, DM? Not used to using Linux.
[08:24] <iptable> which translates to: lightDM - standard - i.e. whatever came with ubuntu 14.04
[08:24] <auscompgeek> Ca11um: display manager
[08:24] <auscompgeek> iptable: probably, but gotta make sure :)
[08:24] <Ca11um> Where can I find that information? It's Ubuntu 14.04.1 with the latest updates, running on a VMWare system.
[08:25] <iptable> pali1, no, skype 4.2 won't work. it won't login, that's correct. skype 4.3 needs SSE2. early version of 4.3 (4.3.0) required SSE2 for video only. Now they implemented checks to allow only SSE2 machines to run the binary
[08:25] <auscompgeek> Ca11um: are you using the normal (Unity) Ubuntu desktop release?
[08:25] <iptable> pali1, basically: you are using microsoft bull* software which forces you to upgrade for no real reason other than $$$. Ms wants you to buy a new machine, meaning you will buy OEM version of windows 8.1 that comes with it automatically.
[08:26] <iptable> pali1, and yes, qemu version is too slow to be called usable
[08:26] <wheeei> Ben64 I've read the ubuntu-faq about the swap-file but their examples is for 1gb/2gb, If I got 12gb ram should my swap-file still be around 12gb in order to hibernate without a issue?
[08:26] <iptable> wheeei, no. if you wantto hibernate, you need more than 12GB swap
[08:26] <Ben64> wheeei: if you want to hibernate, swap needs to be equal or over the amount of ram
[08:26] <iptable> wheeei, rule of thumb would be 1.5x.
[08:26] <Ca11um> auscompgeek: Yes, the default
[08:26] <pali1> iptable: since ive launced the command, it doesnt showed up till now
[08:27] <iptable> wheeei, so for 12GB RAM, I would say 18GB swap.
[08:27] <pali1> iptable: i need video calling on this old PC, what alternatives i have?
[08:27] <wheeei> iptable really? that's not what the documenation says https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[08:27] <iptable> pali1, let it run for a few days. it will show up in a week or so... then try chatting lol
[08:28] <iptable> wheeei, if you swap stuff out (and it does swap out, even if you are not over ram), suddenly your hibernate will not work. minimum I would advise for hibernation to work at almost all times would be 14GB or SWAP.
[08:28] <pali1> iptable: anything else beside skype?
[08:28] <iptable> pali1, your choices are: upgrade or not use skype
[08:28] <auscompgeek> Ca11um: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM then
[08:28] <iptable> pali1, google hangouts is one
[08:28] <wheeei> iptable ok, I will go with your recommendation
[08:28] <Mia> any top or htop alternative for monitoring through ssh?
[08:29] <iptable> wheeei, but with a 12GB-RAM machine I don't believe you can't spare 18 or 20GB for swap to make sure it ALWAYS works with hibernation.
[08:29] <iptable> Mia, what's wrong with running top through ssh?
[08:29] <karex> iptable: swap now can be in the file, so if I don't need hibernation, is there any reason to make a swap partition?
[08:29] <iptable> karex, the user specifically asked for hibernation actually
[08:30] <karex> iptable: this is a different question
[08:30] <iptable> karex, also, files do get fragmented, so swap on partition will give you better performance.
[08:30] <karex> iptable: :D not his/her questioin
[08:30] <wheeei> iptable well I was going to only use 100gb for linux including home. I guess 30gb for root 18gb for swap and the rest for home
[08:31] <iptable> karex, then again, if you use ext4 and force a continous trunk of space, shouldn't be an issue. with 12GB of RAM you should never run out (unless you use chrome :P)
[08:32] <iptable> karex, on my laptop, on which i do NOT hibernate, I got 8GB RAM and 2GB swap and it works. If I run a huge process count for extended periods of time, including virtualization, it does get close though...
[08:32] <auscompgeek> Mia: htop does show RAM usage in MB.
[08:32] <iptable> so does free -m :P
[08:32] <__unik> hello. How can I use a superadmin privileges command in system() function?
 I want my program to update the system: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:32] <iptable> wheeei, yes, that will be perfect for root, swap and home size.
[08:33] <iptable> wheeei, you can stuff any large files on your ntfs which ubuntu does support
[08:33] <karex> iptable: "I got 8GB RAM and 2GB swap and it works" does "it" refers to hibernation?
[08:33] <wheeei> yeah that was my plan, thanx!
[08:33] <iptable> __unik, you are creating a command to not have to type apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[08:34] <iptable> karex, no, "it" refers to system. I don't use hibernation and it would not work.
[08:34] <karex> iptable: oh i see
[08:34] <__unik> iptable: no, I am doing a C++ application. I want it to update my system
[08:34] <auscompgeek> Mia: (well, actually, htop chooses the most convenient units to show RAM usage, usually either KB or MB)
[08:34] <__unik> iptable: system() function is used for terminal commands
[08:34] <__unik> but I doesn't work with sudo
[08:34] <iptable> __unik, so you are writing an application in C++ to run 2 external commands?
[08:35] <Ca11um> Thank you very much, auscompgeek
[08:35] <Ca11um> It's all working as intended now.
[08:35] <sonne> why is the default scheduler on ubuntu desktop deadline rather than cfq?
[08:35] <auscompgeek> Ca11um: not a problem.
[08:35] <__unik> iptable: yes
[08:35] <iptable> __unik, of course it doesn't work with sudo. sudo needs interactive password AND also elevates permissions. for safety, you need to run your applicaiton as sudo /you/app
[08:35] <iptable> __unik, can't you do it in bash?
[08:35] <Mia> auscompgeek, how to set it to show in mb
[08:35] <Mia> I mena, per-process
[08:36] <iptable> __unik, you could setup sudoers to not ask for password when you type in: sudo /your/useless/c/app
[08:36] <Mia> in the table
[08:36] <auscompgeek> Mia: it does by default
[08:36] <iptable> Mia, what's wrong with top/htop/atop/iotop?
[08:36] <iptable> for monitoring
[08:36] <Mia> iptable, auscompgeek I can't seem to make it
[08:36] <Mia> to show the table in MB
[08:36] <Mia> rather than percent
[08:37] <__unik> iptable: I am developing it, I don't want my users to write that code line whenever they want to open my app. Yes thanks for your suggestion, I will try bash
[08:37] <Mia> let me send a screenshot
[08:37] <auscompgeek> Mia: it *does*. it shows % and exact amount at the same time *by default*.
[08:37] <Ben64> __unik: whats wrong with just typing "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ??
[08:37] <Mia> http://img.ctrlv.in/img/14/10/02/542d08fadd9fc.png
[08:37] <Mia> auscompgeek, here is my ss
[08:37] <iptable> __unik, no, if your users want to elevate permissions, they should type a password in.
[08:37] <iptable> __unik, it's called security
[08:38] <iptable> __unik, otherwise you are doing them and yourself great danger and breaking the way things should work...
[08:38] <auscompgeek> Mia: yup, that's the default setup. it's showing RAM usage of each process just fine.
[08:38] <Mia> aukaicue, it doens't show in mb values
[08:38] <Mia> it shows in percent
[08:38] <__unik> iptable: yes, of course, but doing it at opening is not the true time
[08:38] <Mia> auscompgeek,
[08:38] <Mia> ^
[08:38] <iptable> __unik, if you do insist, you can (not in bash, but on C app) set a suid flag so when you run your app, it will automatically set it's UID to root. Then you can system() apt-get update && apt-get upgrade without the need for sudo.
[08:39] <auscompgeek> Mia: here's a good explanation of htop that I found, please read this. http://www.deonsworld.co.za/2012/12/20/understanding-and-using-htop-monitor-system-resources/
[08:39] <__unik> iptable: yes, thanks.
[08:39] <Ben64> __unik: seriously, why waste time and make that at all
[08:39] <JediMaster> I've got three 14.04 machines talking to each other. One is running Redis, the other two Redis clients. On the syslog of the redis server, I can see [UFW BLOCK] .... DPT=6379, which is the port for redis. Despite this, it appears to work and I can telnet to that port from the clients without being blocked. Strange. However, every few days there one or two minutes where it does actually appear to be blocked, or at least can't get connected. UFW
[08:39] <JediMaster> has a rule to allow everything from the client IPs (the ones listed in SRC= in the UFW syslog block reports), so why is UFW reporting them as blocked?
[08:39] <Mia> auscompgeek, I know
[08:39] <Mia> don't you see that it, too, shows in %
[08:39] <__unik> Ben64: thanks for answering sir. But you didn't know what my question is.
[08:39] <iptable> Ben64, apparently his users are too stupid to type in their password when they run sudo apt-get update. and too stupid to type that in...
[08:39] <JediMaster> And when the client can't connect to the server, it's the same on both clients
 <__unik> I want my program to update the system: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:40] <iptable> __unik, no, I still don't know why bother making everyone's life difficult
[08:40] <Ben64> i can read perfectly fine. it still doesn't make any sense
[08:40] <Mia> aukaicue, oh so the virtual mem. is that?
[08:40] <Mia> VIRT
[08:40] <__unik> iptable: me?
[08:41] <iptable> __unik, yes. you. why are you doing that? they users have to type in a command to upgrade, one that everyone who uses CLI to upgrade should know. WHY bother?
[08:42] <iptable> __unik, if you want to run that command at boot, you are still not doing it right. all you have to do is put it in rc.local or in crontab as @reboot. not write bash scripts or C programs XD
[08:42] <__unik> iptable: I apologize I am not trying to bother anyone. You will need that when you are creating stuff like Ubuntu software center
[08:43] <iptable> __unik, no, you got me lost. break user's computers with upgrades they didn't want?
[08:43] <iptable> some users might want NOT to upgrade their packages for one reason or another...
[08:43] <iptable> and upgrading is NOT needed to install apps
[08:44] <__unik> iptable: My program will only do that when the user ask
[08:44] <auscompgeek> __unik: why are you writing yet *another* (and probably horrible, by the sounds of the conversation) apt frontend? we already have Synaptic and aptitude...
[08:44] <iptable> __unik, apt-get update; apt-get install whatever <= will upgrade all dependent packages to install what you need.
[08:44] <iptable> __unik, but the tool for upgrades is already there. it's called apt-get. and software centre too!
[08:45] <iptable> why make another app to call the first one!
[08:45] <__unik> lol sorry you guys. I gave up.
[08:45] <__unik> thank you
[08:45] <iptable> auscompgeek, and software centre - or 5 software centres I found so far actually :D
[08:45] <jpentland> Hi, I am trying to execute a binary (which has no parameters and that I can't recompile), but when running with strace I see it's missing the file "/lib/ld-linux.so.2". Is there a package I can install to get this file, or perhaps I need to create a symlink to a different "ld-linux.so.X"?
[08:46] <auscompgeek> iptable: and ubuntu's update manager...
[08:46] <iptable> jpentland, do you have the file? ls -l /lib/ld-linux.so.2
[08:46] <eeee> !find ld-liux.so
[08:46] <eeee> !find ld-linux.so
[08:46] <Ben64> that file is in libc6
[08:46] <iptable> auscompgeek, ah yes. I like cinnamon software centre myself :D
[08:46] <jpentland> iptable, no the file isn't there
[08:47] <iptable> jpentland, ls -l /lib/ld-linux.so*
[08:47] <iptable> the user will already have libc or his system wouldn't work
[08:48] <jpentland> iptable, still nothing - locate ld-linux.so shows me "/usr/share/man/man8/ld-linux.so.8.gz"
[08:48] <Ben64> jpentland: so what system are you running
[08:48] <jpentland> iptable, and yeah I tried installing libc6 but I had it already -
[08:48] <jpentland> Ben64, Ubuntu 14.04
[08:48] <iptable> jpentland, what's the architecture?
[08:49] <jpentland> iptable, x86_64
[08:49] <eeee> jpentland: do you have /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ?
[08:49] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install libc6:amd64 libc6:i386 libc6-dbg:amd64 libc6-dev:amd64 libc6-i386
[08:49] <iptable> :)
[08:50] <jpentland> iptable, yes i have that
[08:50] <eeee> jpentland: try to copy it to /lib/ so that your binary works, if you can't set any arguments or recompile
[08:50] <bcvery1> I'm trying to set up a network printer (windows network) using system-config-printer on 14.04, I getting this error: pastebin.com/9jT1i9Qv
[08:50] <jpentland> Ben64, you are probably right that I need to install the 32-bit libs
[08:50] <iptable> jpentland, the binary is 32 bit one. you need to also install libc6:i386 to get 32-bit library for libc
[08:51] <jpentland> iptable, yeah I'm trying that now
[08:51] <iptable> jpentland, run Ben64 command. that  will resolve this issue. you might need ot install more 32 bit libs after that. but yeah, that's the way
[08:52] <jpentland> iptable, ok thanks
[08:52] <iptable> jpentland, and don't use locate. it's not reliable, as you can see. always use find for full results. sudo find / -name "ld-linux.so*"
[08:53] <jpentland> iptable, yeah I don't expect it to return everything, I just normally run it first time round because its faster. If it doesn't return anything I know I can always try find later
[08:53] <auscompgeek> iptable: that find command wouldn't have found the library either
[08:53] <eeee> auscompgeek: it does
[08:55] <auscompgeek> eeee: I believe ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 doesn't match ld-linux.so*
[08:55] <jpentland> I wonder why Ubuntu/Debian are still referring to x86_64 as amd64
[08:56] <eeee> auscompgeek: ah, my mistake, i thought it was ld-linux*
[08:56] <iptable> auscompgeek, good point :D ld-linux*
[08:56] <auscompgeek> iptable: in which case `locate ld-linux` would probably have found it as well :P
[08:56] <iptable> auscompgeek, although my "find" was : type in /lib, press tab-tab, type in x86_, press tab, type in ld-li, press tab tab :D
[08:57] <jpentland> n
[08:57] <eeee> auscompgeek: it wouldn't
[08:57] <eeee> auscompgeek: locate -r ld-linux* , would though
[08:58] <eeee> nevermind
[08:58] <eeee> :P
[08:59] <landau> hi, in my fstab I have this line:
[08:59] <landau> UUID=E0F2098BF20966DE   /media/ACER ntfs-3g     defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=027,fmask=137,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0     0
[09:00] <landau> how to allow exec permissions for files?
[09:00] <hui> how can I set combination key to switch between specified programs to make work easier? Is there a software to achieve this?
[09:00] <eeee> hui: alt+tab
[09:00] <OerHeks> landau, ntfs is not posix, so there is no way to set a file as executable
[09:01] <landau> ohhh... :(  I need files execution
[09:01] <hui> I open many program,,but I only want two of them for example ,others work background..
[09:01] <eeee> landau: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/
[09:01] <eeee> i think you need to add exec to the end of the line
[09:02] <iptable> landau, there *is* a way
[09:03] <landau> iptable, really??
[09:03] <iptable> landau, on ntfs, if a file is .com or .exe, the file with automatically be marked as executable due to extension.
[09:03] <iptable> it's a workaround
[09:03] <landau> ok i'll try it
[09:03] <iptable> I wonder if one can give ntfs mount option to get all files to be executable. what's dmask/fmask?
[09:03] <eeee> landau: add exec to the end of the line ( it has to be the last option on the line )
[09:04] <eeee> UUID=E0F2098BF20966DE   /media/ACER ntfs-3g     defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=027,fmask=137,locale=en_US.UTF-8,exec 0     0
[09:04] <landau> iptable, .exe non works :(
[09:04] <iptable> landau, or change the fmask. fmask is file mask for what permissions should files have by default. change to 027 from 137 and you all files will be marked as executable
[09:04] <landau> eeee, i'll try that...thanks!
[09:05] <iptable> I'm not sure ntfs driver supports exec. We will know soon :D
[09:05] <onla> hey. how do I change the window manager in lubuntu? In ubuntu I read it is storing info at /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/"YOURSESSION" but I don't have that in lubuntu
[09:06] <landau> iptable, yes, 027 might be a solution, but i don't like to have all files executable
[09:06] <iptable> landau, you do not have a choice. either all executable or none
[09:06] <eeee> landau: try adding the exec, it might work
[09:06] <Ben64> landau: how are you planning on executing exe files anyway?
[09:06] <rom1504> YoLtA is starting unsolicited query, talking about intelligent design, anybody up to ban him ?
[09:06] <iptable> landau, ntfs does NOT support posix permissions, so you cannot choose which file you want to be executable
[09:06] <Ben64> rom1504: i'm not seeing anything
[09:07] <rom1504> fine hopefully he's just doing that with me
[09:07] <eeee> landau: add exec , give it a shot brotha
[09:07] <iptable> rom1504, not on the channel he is now
[09:07] <iptable> not
[09:07] <landau> Ben64, I usually use ./file.exe
[09:07] <Ben64> landau: ok, but exe files are for windows, not linux
[09:07] <rom1504> iptable: ? #ubuntu is the only channel he is in
[09:07] <iptable> landau, for windows files you mean wine ./file.exe ?
[09:07] <OerHeks> !pm | YoLtA
[09:08] <iptable> rom1504, and not talking on it. not a single line I can see.
[09:08] <eeee> landau: add exec, it's on my responsibility
[09:08] <eeee> flyyyyyy
[09:08] <iptable> eeee, exec seems to make .exe files executable
[09:08] <iptable> landau, ^
[09:08] <iptable> on ntfs that is
[09:08] <iptable> so you could try that
[09:09] <iptable> landau, you do realise you cannot run windows exec files under linux and that you need wine or an emulator?
[09:09] <landau> eeee, I'm editing fstab
[09:10] <landau> iptable, yes I know i can't exec windows files... :)
[09:10] <iptable> ok
[09:10] <eeee> landau: it has to be at the end
[09:10] <rom1504> iptable: yes ofc he's just taking names here
[09:11] <landau> ok, how to remount partition without reboot?
[09:11] <iptable> rom1504, ignore list? tell him to talk to me as I am interested. I run a ##troll for demented people with psych issues too :D
[09:11] <iptable> rom1504, go for it. troll the troll
[09:11] <Caroga> landau, mount -a
[09:12] <iptable> landau, or mount -o remount,exec /path/where/it's/mounted
[09:12] <iptable> landau, that will temporarily add exec just on this occation to test. no need to change fstab
[09:12] <eeee> landau: sudo mount -o remount,defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=027,fmask=137,locale=en_US.UTF-8,exec /media/ACER
[09:13] <iptable> eeee, won't -o remount,exec just add exec and take the rest from fstab?
[09:13] <iptable> I need to test that
[09:13] <landau>    ok I'm triyng
[09:13] <iptable> eeee, it does indeed ;) mount -o remount,exec takes all options from fstab and adds exec to the end
[09:13] <iptable> eeee, mount -o exec,remount adds exec to the beginning it seems. quite cute
[09:14] <rom1504> iptable: :D
[09:14] <eeee> ok, cool
[09:15] <iptable> rom1504, patience. annoy them so much with pointless responses that they will want you to stop :D I'm cruel like that. It appears I was born a troll but never utilised the power :D
[09:15] <landau> I reboot...stay toned
[09:16] <eeee> iptable: i'm toned, are you toned?
[09:16] <iptable> yup, toned 100%
[09:16] <iptable> it's the sun that keeps me toned ;)
[09:16] <eeee> hehe
[09:19] <landau> eeee, not works :(
[09:19] <landau> this is my line: UUID=E0F2098BF20966DE /media/ACER ntfs-3g defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=027,fmask=137,locale=en_US.UTF-8,exec 0 0
[09:20] <iptable> landau, change fmask ro 027 or remove it at all! fmask locks permissions, so exec and nothing else will work
[09:20] <iptable> landau, with fmask removed, exec *might* work. with fmask set to 027 all files will be set with executable flag. your call what you want to test and use
[09:21] <landau> ok thanks!
[09:21] <mario55> ciao
[09:22] <mario55> bb
[09:23] <Caroga> o/
[09:23] <Caroga> Got a question about using ACL.
[09:24] <Caroga> I have a group container three (application) users which I want to give full access to /cloud/media.
[09:24] <Caroga> Can I put the ACL persistency to group:group instead of owner:group ?
[09:24] <Caroga> on that folder that is.
[09:25] <Caroga> containing*
[09:35] <Caroga> anyone ?
[09:38] <iptable> Caroga, permissions are user:group
[09:38] <kk_drop> my menu_item_delete($mlid) not working when $mlid is view path. I must use normal query to remove link from database
[09:38] <Caroga> iptable, then giving that group full access is already enough ?
[09:38] <iptable> Caroga, I got no idea what you mean by group:group. it's user:group. you can use ACLs to give permission to more groups to a directory/file.
[09:38] <iptable> Caroga, yes. if a user belongs to that group and you give full access to that group, the user can change files in that dir.
[09:39] <Caroga> iptable, no matter who the owner is, if the group is there and with full access, then it's no problem ?
[09:39]  * iptable goes to figure out how to inflate his bicycle tyres on the weird connect they got. wtf is presta?
[09:40] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:40] <iptable> Caroga, no. If the permission flags say group has rwx for group X, then no matter who is the user
[09:40] <iptable> Caroga, you need group ownership and access (chmod-type acl too).
[09:41] <Caroga> iptable, okey, because user1 will create a folder inside that mount, which will have user1:group. Since user2 is member of group, it will have no problems doing whatever he needs to do with that folder then.
[09:41] <iptable> Caroga, outside acl you would do: chmod 770 /test; chown -R user:group /test <= that would make the dir and all files belong to user:group and give full rwx permissions to the user and anyone who is member of said group
[09:41] <Caroga> Ofcourse I will setup ACL on that mount as well.
[09:41] <iptable> Caroga, as long as user1 gives rwx permission to the group
[09:41] <iptable> Caroga, default permissions, unless defualts are changed, are 755 (rwx for user, rx for group and all)
[09:42] <Caroga> iptable, that's the point, I dont want user1 to be setting all these rights everytime, I need it to be persistent, that's why I thought I needed ACL for.
[09:42] <iptable> Caroga, find ouot how to change defualt permissions on a directory. That's as far as I can go with this.
[09:42] <iptable> Caroga, no, you need default permissions for new dirs/files to be adjusted
[09:43] <iptable> Caroga, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1314/how-to-set-default-file-permissions-for-all-folders-files-in-a-directory
[09:43]  * iptable really goes now
[09:43] <Caroga> iptable, thanks for the tip, I will search on how to do so
[09:43] <Caroga> iptable, thanks for the url and your time.
[09:43] <iptable> Caroga, and this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/applying-default-permissions-for-newly-created-files-within-a-specific-folder-605129/
[09:44] <Caroga> iptable, that's applying ACL :D
[09:44] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[09:44] <CoolCoder> I have installed New version of Ubuntu 14.04, once logged in, i found there are some updates available. I clicked to update. after few mins, when I try to login, I gets message Incorrect login! Nice work!
[09:44] <iptable> Caroga, that's applying default group/user permission on newly created files/dirs using acls. that will work for you. happy reading :)
[09:44] <cfhowlett> CoolCoder, wrong login name or wrong password.  one or the other.
[09:44] <Caroga> yes thank you very much iptable !
[09:45] <CoolCoder> it was the login box to enter the password. I have already logged in to same user and with same password to click on update.
[09:45] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> CoolCoder, ??? your description is confusing.  you say you can't login ... but you have logged in ...
[09:47] <CoolCoder> I have explained. I have logged in to system after installation. then given for update as notified. after few mins, I have logged in again, so it was downloading the update. few mins later, again login box came, and when i tried to enter password to check the progress. it says wrong password
[09:47] <CoolCoder> hope its clear
[09:50] <cfhowlett> CoolCoder, those multiple logins make little sense.  suggest your reboot and then use the terminal to complete and monitor your updates.
[09:58] <daliak_> hello
[09:58] <guest-44> hi
[09:58] <daliak_> i have installed xubuntu 12.04
[09:58] <daliak_> on an older pc
[09:59] <daliak_> while installing from live cd
[09:59] <daliak_> it freezed for a couple of times
[10:00] <daliak_> it has now restarted and I am at the login screen. it hasn't remembered the layout i have applied for in the installation, and it doesn't recognize the password i gave it
[10:00] <guest-44> i'm using mythbuntu 14.04. my computer freezes when firefox is running for some time(with default kernel it happened even without firefox running). i think this happens since i upgraded to 14.04. i tried with 3.16.3 kernel but still freezes. syslog shows no sign of warnings/errors when freeze occured. anyone knows how to fix this?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !password | daliak_,
[10:00] <Mia> is there  a point to use the sudo command when you're already the root user ?
[10:00] <CoolCoder> cfhowlett, I am not able to login now. I am sure about my login and password. I am a normal user. Can you give me any link to know how to reset the password without login? I have googled and they says when we press Shift key on rebooting, we will get a recovery screen. for me nothing. it goes to login screen again
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !password | CoolCoder
[10:01] <CoolCoder> the root password is what I am trying to login. username and password same. plts & plts
[10:01] <CoolCoder> nothing is working now!
[10:01] <cfhowlett> CoolCoder, the exact key to boot into recovery might be specific to your machine. experiment: alt, shift, ctrl  ...
[10:02] <cfhowlett> !root | CoolCoder, root password?
[10:03] <CoolCoder> "it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password" - ? How can I get the terminal screen? its ok, i will try reinstalling again from starting. Thanks
[10:03] <OerHeks> guest-44, hard to say what could be wrong, roll back that 3.16.3 kernel as it is not supported
[10:03] <cfhowlett> CoolCoder, reinstall is unnecessary.  (this ain't windows!)
[10:04] <daliak_> cfhowlett, i tried
[10:04] <daliak_> nothing happens
[10:04] <daliak_> when i press shift at booting
[10:04] <guest-44_> re, i got disconnected. did anyone answer to my question?
[10:05] <OerHeks> guest-44, hard to say what could be wrong, roll back that 3.16.3 kernel as it is not supported
[10:05] <guest-44_> OerHeks: you mean 3.13?
[10:06] <guest-44_> OerHeks: i had 3.13(default) in use before. then it froze even with no firefox running
[10:06] <OerHeks> after rollback, try memtest86 to see what is wrong with your ram first
[10:07] <guest-44_> OerHeks: if i had to guess i would say it's the graphics driver. it caused lockups in the past. but these lockups showed errors in syslog if i recall correctly.
[10:08] <guest-44_> (or Xorg.log) don't know
[10:08] <Alive> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and have run into a kernel panic. I cant boot my system now. I have two choices, find the problem and fix it or re-install. Re-install is a HUGE job since this system has many many configurations, its a development laptop for Webdevelopment, Android Development, c and c++ and more...
[10:08] <cfhowlett> Alive, or reboot into advanced options and choose older kernel
[10:09] <CoolCoder> cfhowlett,  (this ain't windows!), windows never shows such errors. Sad to say, for a normal user, its a bad experience. after update he cant login to the system or cant do anythnig! I can understand this is opensource etc.
[10:09] <Alive> chhowlett, thank for the try, however this sistem will not boot up even when trying advanced options... I get the same kernel panic.
[10:09] <Alive> cfhowlett,
[10:09] <Alive> *
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Alive, ah, that's ... bad.
[10:10] <guest-44_> Alive: older kernel doesn't work? weird :o
[10:10] <daliak_> cfhowlett, i have tried pressing both shift and esc
[10:10] <guest-44_> Alive: but you can always boot a livecd and save your work
[10:10] <daliak_> @cfhowlett nothing happens, tho
[10:10] <cfhowlett> daliak_, "tab" ...
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Alive, what guest-44 waid ...
[10:11] <cfhowlett> *said*
[10:11] <Alive> cfhowlett, I have actually tried an older kernel by renaming the vmlinuz link in the root manually. Same kernel panic message.
[10:11] <daliak_> @cfhowlett i tried tab, no result. i don't even see the grub thing at booting.
[10:12] <Alive> guest-44 I can save my work, but this system has loads and loads of configs and installs on it. Not all is lost, but I am trying to find the reason for the kernel panic so I can rather perhaps just fix that.
[10:12] <cfhowlett> Alive, this is above my pay grade.  ask in channel.  I'd be backing up and reinstalling at this point.
[10:13] <Alive> cfhowlett, yeah well thats my last resort.
[10:13] <Alive> I am hoping that some ubuntu expert would be able to read the kernel panic message and perhaps deduce the reason.
[10:13] <cfhowlett> daliak_, press "shift" CONTINUOUSLY to get grub ...
[10:13] <Alive> or something.
[10:14] <daliak_> @cfhowlett that doesn't work either
[10:15] <brew> Hi, i have been looking everywhere to find info on how to get ubuntu 14.04 LTS automatically mount a partition named DATA at bootup... any feedback on this please?
[10:16] <cfhowlett> daliak_, don't know what else to suggest ... sorry
[10:17] <eeee> brew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:17] <daliak_> @cfhowlett thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:18] <brew> thank you eeee
[10:18] <eeee> brew: no problem
[10:32] <michele__> why if i delete .desktop file it remove also from the lateral bar?
[10:39] <TheBigDeal> How to make phone calls using RJ11 in ubuntu?
[10:41] <searching> ubuntu apache2 cgi-bin not working
[10:41] <searching> it shows all script code in web browser
[10:42] <TheBigDeal> searching, sudo service apache2 restart
[10:42] <TheBigDeal> or stop and than start
[10:42] <searching> I get sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:43] <TheBigDeal> that works too
[10:43] <searching> the same
[10:43] <searching> It shows my script code in browser
[10:44] <TheBigDeal> searching, PHP?
[10:44] <searching> or if I put file.py try to download the file
[10:44] <searching> php script is working
[10:44] <TheBigDeal> what scripts are not working?
[10:45] <searching> python an cgi
[10:45] <TheBigDeal> hm python i have no idea, i thought you talking about php
[10:45] <TheBigDeal> :(
[10:45] <TheBigDeal> searching, what's in sudo tail -100 /etc/httpd/logs/access_log?
[10:46] <TheBigDeal> 'sudo tail -100 /etc/httpd/logs/access_log'
[10:46] <searching> cannot open ‘/etc/httpd/logs/access_log’ for reading: No such file or directory
[10:46] <somsip> TheBigDeal: searching: /var/log/apache2/
[10:46] <TheBigDeal> sudo tail -100 /var/log/apache2/access.log
[10:46] <searching> I have virtualhost
[10:47] <iptable> searching, by default, even if you use vhosts, all logs will be in /var/log/apache2
[10:47] <searching> yes
[10:47] <iptable> searching, you would have to configure a different location yourself (and quite badly put it in /etc...) for them to be there
[10:48] <searching> 127.0.0.1 - - [02/Oct/2014:13:45:15 +0300] "GET /cgi-bin/index.cgi HTTP/1.1" 200 339 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0"
[10:48] <TheBigDeal> searching, look at the 'access.log' and 'error.log' maybe you can find something useful out there
[10:48] <iptable> searching, if a module is not working, try turning it on
[10:48] <iptable> searching, have you done a2enmod on the correcct modules and restarted apache?
[10:49] <searching> no
[10:49] <iptable> searching, so the reason for the module not woriing is simply the fact you did not turn it on
[10:49] <iptable> searching, ls /etc/apache2/. you will find 2 dirs available modules and enabled modules. check there and a2enmod the modules you want enabled
[10:49] <iptable> then restart apache
[10:50] <searching> if I put index.php in cgi-bin it works
[10:51] <searching> if I put python try to download it when I access
[10:51] <searching> web
[10:51] <searching> something is wrong with the config
[10:51] <iptable> searching, did you install python?
[10:51] <searching> yes
[10:52] <searching> python works
[10:52] <TheBigDeal> :)
[10:52] <iptable> did you enable execcgi and .py files on the given dir in your confis?
[10:52] <iptable> searching, check this: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/129-servers/757148-configuring-apache2-to-run-python-scripts
[10:52] <searching> ok
[10:52] <TheBigDeal> 02nd October 2014 10:52 GMT searching get python to work :P
[10:52] <TheBigDeal> or not yet?
[10:53] <searching> no
[10:53] <iptable> TheBigDeal, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apache2+enable+python :P
[10:54] <searching> I think is addhandler or sethandler?
[10:54] <TheBigDeal> iptable, :)
[10:54] <TheBigDeal> iptable, but why for me?
[10:54] <iptable> searching, as per the link I gave you. you need to add the handler and enable ExecCGI (+execCGI)
[10:55] <iptable> TheBigDeal, oh, I just like the website :P
[10:55] <iptable> searching, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=apache2+enable+python
[10:56] <TheBigDeal> iptable, oh, lmgtfy?
[10:56] <iptable> TheBigDeal, Let Me Google That For You. yes. I love it :D Especially if the first result is the answer to one's question
[10:57] <iptable> searching, also cgi can be unsafe. use dedicated handler for best results, like libapache2-mod-php and libapache2-mod-python. that's how people do it. sanity be with us all :) Link to that: http://www.howtoforge.com/embedding-python-in-apache2-with-mod_python-debian-etch
[10:58] <TheBigDeal> iptable, Oh yeah, that's really useful for the idiot and the lazy
[10:58] <iptable> TheBigDeal, mostly for the lazy and unknowing. Doesn't help idiots. But yes, kind of a "have you tried typing the few words into google and checking the first result before wasting your own time on chat waiting for others to do the same" kind of thing ;)
[10:59] <iptable> Someone here showed it to me yesterday
[10:59] <iptable> We had a lmgtfy day yesterday...
[10:59] <TheBigDeal> iptable, Exactly;)
[10:59] <TheBigDeal> hehe
[11:00] <TheBigDeal> I know that websites since i was lazy :)
[11:00] <searching> I have a problem with nginx
[11:00] <iptable> ugh, nginx. I thought you used apache2?
[11:00] <TheBigDeal> searching, Did you fix your python problem?
[11:00] <somsip> iptable: just a heads up - I think it's an appropriate thing to use at times, but I have been criticised by the ops for doing so. Depends who's on and what mood they are in.
[11:01] <searching> I installed nginx php5-fpm and fcgiwrap
[11:01] <searching> no
[11:01] <searching> first nginx and php5-fpm works
[11:01] <iptable> somsip, oh I agree that on multiple occasions it's not a good thing to do. especially if the user claims to be a newb etc.
[11:01] <searching> but with fcgiwrap no
[11:01] <searching> why?
[11:02] <somsip> iptable: all YMMV of course. Anyway...OT
[11:02] <iptable> searching, but you mentioned apache2 restart? I'm confused at what you are doing and how...
[11:03] <searching> I modify only /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:03] <iptable> so you have apache or nginx?
[11:03] <searching> nginx remove
[11:03] <searching> only apache2
[11:03] <somsip> searching: and you're wanting to use php5-fpm and fastcgi?
[11:04] <searching> I need cgi-bin to work
[11:04] <searching> I was
[11:04] <iptable> so you have apache2. ok. now, install libapache2-mod-php and libapache2-mod-python. then type in a2enmod php; a2enmod python
[11:04] <iptable> check exact module names in /etc/apache2/available-modules (or modules-available whichever one it was)
[11:04] <searching> I think to install only nginx but not working
[11:04] <iptable> searching, so you have apache2. ok. now, install libapache2-mod-php and libapache2-mod-python. then type in a2enmod php; a2enmod python
[11:04] <weroiu> I have 2 PCs running Ubuntu `14.04. Both have same usernames.... will it cause problems in sharing??
[11:04] <searching> is something in the config
[11:04] <iptable> searching, check exact module names in /etc/apache2/available-modules (or modules-available whichever one it was)
[11:05] <weroiu> folders?
[11:05] <searching> iptable without libapache2-mod-python must work
[11:05] <iptable> weroiu, no? sharing with what? ssh/scp/sftp - no problem. standard cifs/smb shares - shouldn't be an issue
[11:05] <bakw> hejka
[11:05] <bolestag> hej
[11:05] <falkowskae> siemanko
[11:05] <searching> but I think is something wrong in config
[11:05] <bakw> HEJ KUMPLE
[11:06] <iptable> English only pls
[11:06] <bolestag> e
[11:06] <bakw> CHUJEC WAM W DUPALA
[11:06] <iptable> oh, spammer
[11:06] <falkowskae> HEJ HEJ
[11:06] <iptable> bakhtiya, idz i sobie zycie zalatw
[11:06] <falkowskae> IDE
[11:06] <falkowskae> PAPAPAP
[11:06] <falkowskae> BUZIAM
[11:06] <somsip> !pl | bakw
[11:06] <bolestag> elo
[11:06] <iptable> bakw that is
[11:06] <iptable> !ops help
[11:06] <iptable> ot however we do it
[11:06] <skurwiwij> co jest kurwa
[11:06] <iptable> !op
[11:06] <searching> if I rename index.cgi to index.py The requested URL /cgi-bin/ was not found on this server.
[11:06] <somsip> !ops (polish spammers ahoy)
[11:07] <somsip> bum :(
[11:07] <iptable> polish spammers. I feel ashemd for my own nationality
[11:07] <somsip> iptable: idiots in every country. No matter
[11:07] <iptable> true
[11:07] <iptable> searching, uhm, so you are set on making it work without the python module... but why refuse to do it properly?
[11:08] <iptable> searching, did you add handler to the cgi dir? AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .pl
[11:08] <searching> because I need python and C,C++ script
[11:08] <searching> yes
[11:08] <iptable> C is not a script
[11:08] <searching> cgi-script .cgi .py
[11:08] <searching> yes
[11:08] <iptable> restarted apache2?
[11:08] <searching> it is not a script
[11:09] <TheBigDeal> C is a programming languag
[11:09] <TheBigDeal> e
[11:09] <iptable> searching, may I ask what you are actually trying to achieve?
[11:10] <TheBigDeal> iptable, Great question
[11:10] <gms_> hi all. I'd like to write a script that logs the installed packages on regular basis. I know the command that does it however how can I automate this process?
[11:10] <Fuchs> gms_: you could make a cron job
[11:10] <searching> iptable why don`t work cgi script
[11:10] <Fuchs> gms_: that executes the command and >> the output to a log file  (then I'd add that to logrotate, sounds like it might become big)
[11:11] <iptable> searching, because it be bad configured or file not have executable permissions
[11:11] <TheBigDeal> gms_, python import the os module
[11:11] <eyc314> Hello
[11:11] <TheBigDeal> gms_, var = os.system("command")
[11:11] <iptable> I love having my questions ignored
[11:11] <gms_> I have no knowledge on python,
[11:12] <iptable> searching, last link I am sharing with you unless you can tell me what is the purpose of this excercise: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/simple-cgi-and-apache-examples-on-ubuntu-linux
[11:12] <TheBigDeal> gms_, :( sorry nobody going to answer you in a programming task, if you are really interested check out ##programming
[11:12] <iptable> searching, it explains how to make all cgi scripts works on ubuntu on apache2
[11:12] <searching> i follow your link but config don`t work
[11:12] <gms_> TheBigDeal: No no, I've been just looking for some hints. surely I'll handle the programming part
[11:12] <iptable> searching, and as stated, your cgi scripts need to be executable (+x)
[11:13] <searching> yes chmod +x script.py
[11:13] <searching> not working
[11:13] <gms_> thanks for your helps. I'll take a look at cron jobs
[11:13] <TheBigDeal> gms_, I gave you a hint, but in python :)
[11:13] <iptable> searching, "don't work" does not help me. I also need logs, your config all in pastebin. oh and an answer to "what is the purpose of this excercise" would be appreciated.
[11:13] <gms_> :) I wish I knew python. Thank you anyway
[11:13] <TheBigDeal> gms_, What language are you working on?
[11:14] <gms_> TheBigDeal: well, I'm not a programmer but I know C and C++
[11:14] <TheBigDeal> gms_, Well, you want to write a bash script then?
[11:15] <iptable> with C/C++ knowledge, learning all other languages is rather simple. unless you don't do OOP, in which case, prepare to have your brain turned inside out.
[11:15] <iptable> gms_, ^
[11:15] <iptable> in python, even a string is an object :/
[11:15] <somsip> gms_: /var/log/apt/history has everything in there, so perhaps easier to parse this. dpkg --get-selections dumps installed packages.
[11:15] <TheBigDeal> iptable, OOP ;)
[11:15] <searching> iptable I found something like RewriteEngine On
[11:15] <gms_> TheBigDeal: I guess yes. Once upon a time , I had written an alarm script which used to warn me after passing 1 hr in front of computer
[11:15] <iptable> there is time and place for OOP, I just don't understand people pushing it on your everywhere. some things are best left without it.
[11:16] <TheBigDeal> gms_, What command have you been using to retrieve the logs of the installed packages?
[11:16] <iptable> searching, you have still failed to answer any question from my last sentence
[11:16] <gms_> TheBigDeal:  dpkg --get-selections > log.file
[11:16] <TheBigDeal> gms_, Great :)
[11:16] <gms_> TheBigDeal: file.lgo
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:17] <TheBigDeal> gms_, oh yeah, what do you want to add to this?
[11:17] <gms_> somsip: I'd like it to log installed packages on regular basis.
[11:17] <searching> iptable thanks for help
[11:18] <somsip> gms_: then this seems to be more a programming query than an ubuntu problem.
[11:18] <iptable> gms_, TheBigDeal got a better one. use aptitude to list only manually selected packages
[11:18] <searching> I search search search
[11:18] <iptable> and yet you fail fail fail to answer any questions from people whoa re trying to help you for free.
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !details | searching,
[11:19] <gms_> iptable: I don't think I've understoond it well
[11:19] <somsip> gms_: but a cronjob to 'dpkg --get-selections > /tmp/packages$(date+"%m_%d_%Y).log' might be enough for you
[11:19] <TheBigDeal> iptable, Good idea, but still can't figure out what gms_ exactly want to accomplish
[11:19] <OerHeks> cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ installed\ "
[11:20] <iptable> TheBigDeal, good point. that should be the first question
[11:20] <searching> Ok thanks for helping I am on my own
[11:20] <TheBigDeal> searching, assume that you are just joined the channel, and ask a self-contained question again
[11:20] <TheBigDeal> :)
[11:20] <somsip> gms_: (typos in last suggestions - fixable)
[11:21] <iptable> searching, well, if you refuse to help us help you, you are on your own. no problelm.
[11:21] <searching> where is located httpd.conf file?
[11:21] <iptable> TheBigDeal, apt-mark showmanual ;)
[11:21] <gms_> TheBigDeal: Every time I reinstall the os I don't want to bother with package installations. That's why I'd like to keep log it and keep it updated
[11:21] <somsip> searching: /etc/apache2/
[11:21] <searching> ok thanks
[11:22] <TheBigDeal> gms_, What's the problem with the code you have written already, what it cannot do?
[11:22] <iptable> somsip, he wants to know why cgi doesn't work for him but fails to provide 1. his config files, 2. his logs, 3. the purpose for trying cgi as opposed to dedicated apache2 modueles
[11:22] <somsip> iptable: and he's on his own with that as far as I'm concerned. But I'll tell him where config files live :)
[11:22] <gms_> TheBigDeal: It works fine but I want to automate this process. Say, every monday the os logs the installed packages .
[11:23] <TheBigDeal> aha
[11:23] <somsip> gms_: cronjob. bash command of your choice. Example already given (that needs some work)
[11:23] <TheBigDeal> cron jobs then
[11:23] <iptable> gms_, 1. on fresh install run apt-mark showmanual. save to file1. 2. regularly run apt-mark showmanual and save to file2. a diff of file1 and file2 will show you which packages you manually installed after the original system deployment.
[11:24] <gms_> iptable: thanks. I'm noting this one too.
[11:24] <TheBigDeal> gms_, use apt-mark showmanual
[11:24] <iptable> gms_, you will need |sort before using diff.
[11:25] <TheBigDeal> gms_, But remember not remove the 'file.log' before formating your HD to re-install ubuntu, because this is going be the worst scenario ever
[11:25] <TheBigDeal> ;P
[11:25] <iptable> gms_, it IS considered the best solution, with apt-mark ;)
[11:25] <weriou> I have 2 PCs running ubuntu 14.04 . If both have the same usernames, then will it be a problem to share folders with samba?
[11:26]  * iptable goes to buy more spray paint. restoring my outdoor bench
[11:26] <iptable> weriou, I already answered you
[11:26] <weriou> sorry there was some problem with IRC
[11:26] <weriou> I didnt get the messages
[11:26] <iptable> weriou, no is the answer. no problem.
[11:26] <gms_> iptable: I see. But I'm not on a fresh install at the moment. How can apt-mark deal with this ?
[11:26] <TheBigDeal> gms_, I mean to save it in a safe location
[11:26] <gms_> TheBigDeal: ^^
[11:27] <iptable> gms_, it cannot. download a manifest file for your ubuntu version. it will have a list of stuff installed during system install. use that for comparizon.
[11:27] <iptable> gms_, alternativelyt install a fresh ubuntu in a VM and generate the file that way
[11:27] <gms_> iptable: aha . I got it
[11:27] <iptable> gms_, OR, be diligent and just keep an up-to-date list everytime you install something
[11:28]  * iptable really goes now
[11:28] <gms_> thanks people . I appreciate your help! See you
[11:31] <mac_nibblet> Has anyone successfully installed ubuntu 1410 on a intel nuc ?
[11:31] <mac_nibblet> Installation goes through fine but the drive is not bootable after i restart
[11:31] <bazhang> !14.10
[11:31] <mac_nibblet> bazhang: i know
[11:32] <mac_nibblet> but i have had the same issue with 14.04
[11:32] <bazhang> mac_nibblet, thats the channel for support not here
[11:38] <Guest46680> Hello/
[11:38] <TheBigDeal> Hi
[11:41] <ROSSOSCRIPT> CIAO
[11:41] <ROSSOSCRIPT> CIAO!
[11:41] <ROSSOSCRIPT> LIST!
[11:42] <cfhowlett> ROSSOSCRIPT, no warez here.  go elsewhere.
[11:43] <OerHeks> psst ROSSOSCRIPT here are all torrents >> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:44] <OerHeks> yw
[11:44] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, strange characters in the torrent links ...
[11:44] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, never mind ... hash marks
[11:45] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:45] <ROSSOSCRIPT> LIST
[11:45] <ROSSOSCRIPT> LIST!
[11:45] <DJones> !piracy | ROSSOSCRIPT
[11:46] <cfhowlett> ROSSOSCRIPT, go - away
[11:46] <ROSSOSCRIPT> CIAO
[11:46] <ROSSOSCRIPT> LIST!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> bazhang, thanks.  I was barely holding back my inner samuel l. jackson mode ...
[11:57] <zeeble> Hi. Am running ubuntu on a thinkpad. With xfce. Is there a way to get the DE to remember my screen brightness level? When I boot and get to the XDM login, the brightness is always set to the highest. Want it to be pretty low.
[11:58] <cfhowlett> zeeble, I seem to recall there's a boot option - let me look
[11:58] <zeeble> cfhowlett: Thanks
[11:59] <zeeble> Has to go into the grub config?
[11:59] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#Thinkpads
[12:00] <cfhowlett> zeeble, see #16 - 17 https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=34305
[12:01] <zeeble> Thanks guys. Let me read both :)
[12:01] <cfhowlett> zeeble, that issue aside, how is your how ubuntu friendly is that thinkpad?
[12:02] <zeeble> cfhowlett: Pretty much. Its a x230.
[12:02] <cfhowlett> zeeble, I've been lusting at the x1 Carbon touch ... :)
[12:02] <zeeble> cfhowlett: Gets warm. I got the x230, then added RAM, and a miniSSD.
[12:03] <cfhowlett> zeeble, continue on PM please?
[12:03] <zeeble> Sure.
[12:04] <quants> can anybody help me, my laptop battery is not working, i thinks its softwere issue
[12:04] <cfhowlett> quants, not working = ???
[12:05] <zeeble> If your laptop does not boot with the battery only connected, and only boots when you connect AC Power, you need to get it checked.
[12:05] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> zeeble, check your battery.  they do fail -without warning even.
[12:07] <Mia> How to run apps installed to /var/www from a non-root user?
[12:08] <wheeei> Im getting mixed messages, if I wanna dual-boot with windows should I overwrite windows MBR with grub or should I install the ubuntu boot loader to the root-partion?
[12:08] <wheeei> I only got 2 OS on the computer..
 it seems to be a problem in thw booting of the computer
[12:09] <cyber_dweller> wheeei, what r u trying to do?
[12:09] <zeeble> First install Windows. Then install ubuntu. And install grub into the mbr.
[12:10] <cyber_dweller> wheeei, r u migrating or just trying out the linux flavor
[12:10] <wheeei> cyber_dweller just installing ubuntu alongside windows, read that a warning about overwriting the mbr with grub when using multiple OS but I think it's only when you use more than 2 os
[12:10] <cfhowlett> quants, boot while plugged in, insert battery and run battery test utilities
[12:10] <wheeei> cyber_dweller not trying, I'm gonna use it heavily but still want my windows
[12:11] <cyber_dweller> wheeei, then you should replace windows boot loader with grub
[12:11] <wheeei> ok thanx
[12:11] <wheeei> guess the warning was only for 3 or more os
[12:11] <cyber_dweller> you should install it on the drive and not on a partition
[12:12] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[12:13] <cyber_dweller> does anybody knows something about samba permissions?
 ive tried that and it didnt work
[12:13] <cfhowlett> quants, wait you can't boot while plugged in?  nothing to do with battery then.  1.  is this a new installation?  2. what exactly happens?
 well i was updating as normal and it just stopped working.
[12:16] <sid_> Hello, I've got intel i3 motherboard with ubuntu installation , but everything seems bigger than usual and i unaware of installing graphics on ubuntu . Can anyone help me some guide or so how to install graphics on ubuntu
[12:16] <bazhang> sid_, what card
[12:17] <sid_> bazhang: sorry i didnt understand
[12:17] <cfhowlett> quants, updating or upgrading?  what ubuntu release do you have?
[12:17] <bazhang> sid_, the additional drivers should list any, if they are available to your particular graphics card
[12:17] <bazhang> sid_, lspci to pastebin please
 i have 14.04 lts, ive been running it since its release with no trouble
[12:18] <cfhowlett> quants, so it stopped ... froze?
[12:18] <sid_> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8478858/
 i cant be fully shore when it happened as it was out of power so i put it on charge and i was not working, i charged again but no joy.
[12:19] <bazhang> sid_, so it's an integrated intel chip
 very od
[12:20] <sid_> bazhang: yes i think
[12:20] <bazhang> sid_, there are not likely to be any on offer from the additional drivers facility
 sombody said it could be related to grub
[12:20] <bazhang> sid_, did you need to run some 3D game or something similar?
[12:21] <sid_> bazhang: no, but on chrome or mozilla everything seems bigger
[12:21] <cfhowlett> quants, I seriously doubt the software impacted the hardware ... sounds as if your installation was scrambled if you now can't boot.  suggest you boot an ubuntu USB and backup your data.  then reinstall.  sorry, no better options come to my mind.  ask around
[12:21] <bazhang> sid_, checking xrandr , whats available as far as resolution
 i have a link, could you take a look?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> quants, send it
[12:22] <sid_> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8478873/
 ok hold on....
[12:24] <bazhang> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767  <--- is that possible?
[12:25] <bazhang> that seems like 4k or something
[12:25] <sid_> bazhang: i dont know , but its showing like that
[12:25] <sid_> bazhang: but when i go to display , its showing up to 1024 pixels only
[12:25] <bazhang> sid_, I meant the 32k one
[12:26] <sid_> bazhang: when i am on windows i put it under 1600*900 but in here it didnt shows up to that
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1289977
[12:27] <bazhang> sid_, yeah, I have no idea about that chipset, sorry not to be of any  help here.
[12:27] <sid_> bazhang : ok fine , but thanks for support
[12:31] <evil_dun2wik> what is the package for building things.
[12:32] <evil_dun2wik> like g++ and c++
[12:32] <baskar> what do mean by building ??
[12:32] <baskar> like make?
[12:32] <evil_dun2wik> yes.
[12:32] <evil_dun2wik> I just got my VPS reset and forgot what I needed to install
[12:33] <ghostlines> howdy, I'm on 12.04. Is renaming a file in /etc/init.d/ enough to disable a service?
[12:34] <baskar> just install make & make-dev ... it will automatically install all necessary packages
[12:35] <bazhang> evil_dun2wik, build-essential is the one you want
[12:35] <evil_dun2wik> bazhang: thats it.
[12:36] <evil_dun2wik> bazhang: how would I add ppa:webupd8team/java to my repositories?
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !ppa | evil_dun2wik
[12:36] <evil_dun2wik> ok
[12:36] <quants> please can sombody guide me through reinstlling Grub 2
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | quants,
[12:37] <cfhowlett> quants, see "Restore Grub"
[12:37] <evil_dun2wik> cfhowlett: how do I add it using command line?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !addpaa
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !addppa
[12:37] <WizardGed> evil_dun2wik: add-apt-repository
 just pulled it up online but I dont want to make a mistake as there is a big warning.
[12:38] <evil_dun2wik> WizardGed: command not found
 http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[12:38] <WizardGed> you must use sudo
[12:38] <evil_dun2wik> WizardGed: I am root
[12:39] <cfhowlett> quants, understood. take your time.
 sorry, im  newb.  it tells me i need a cd or usb?
 any way around that?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> quants, an ubuntu live cd /usb.  no way around it.
[12:40] <evil_dun2wik> cfhowlett: I don't have that command
[12:40] <WizardGed> evil_dun2wik: so "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:<repository-name>" does not work?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> quants, Old Ubuntu Hands (aka Neckbeards) know to also keep a few of those around
[12:40] <Wulframn> quants: any live CD or USB actually
[12:40] <evil_dun2wik> no, add-apt-repository isn't a command.
 Do I need to download the distro from the Ubuntu website and make one?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> quants, yep.
[12:41] <eeee> quants: wait a sec
[12:41] <eeee> quants: are you trying to reinstall grub?
[12:41] <evil_dun2wik> cfhowlett: do you know how to install it directly to the sources list?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> evil_dun2wik, the correct command is   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[12:41] <WizardGed> evil_dun2wik: you may have to install software-properties-common and/or python-software-properties first (sudo apt-get install python-software-properties)
 i remember I need to convert the file before it can be used
[12:41] <evil_dun2wik> cfhowlett: the command isn't there.
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !paste | evil_dun2wik, show your work
[12:42] <cfhowlett> quants, convert ... what?
[12:42] <eeee> quants: if you're trying to reinstall grub, you dont need to download a 1gb iso, you can download a tiny distro and boot a live session of it, and chroot as usual
[12:42] <eeee> quants: look into tiny core linux, it's like 15mb
[12:42] <evil_dun2wik> ah, thanks WizardGed.
[12:42] <cfhowlett> eeee, true.
[12:42] <evil_dun2wik> working now, all problems solved.
[12:42] <WizardGed> see this page evil: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
 yes, thank you.
[12:43] <wheeei> gah
[12:44] <v1kt0r> hello to everyone
[12:44] <__unik> hi v1kt0r
[12:44] <WizardGed> !hello
[12:45] <quants> cfhowlett> <eeee> any download links for Tiny core?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> quants, wait 1 ...
[12:45] <WizardGed> darn no info on irc ettiquette in ubottu.
[12:45] <eeee> http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/downloads.html
[12:45] <cfhowlett> quants, ^^^ this
[12:45] <cfhowlett> !cookie | eeee,
[12:46] <quants> Im running a 32bit System BTW....
[12:47] <WizardGed> quants: so you like short pointers
 say what?
[12:48] <WizardGed> quants: that was a terrible joke
 sorry newb
[12:48] <WizardGed> 32bit systems have shorter pointers than 64 bit systems.
[12:50] <quants> cfhowlett> I have the download file on my usb now
[12:50] <cfhowlett> quants, which file?  tiny OS/
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ?
 TinyCore-current.iso
[12:51] <eeee> quants: you have to use unetbootin or something to install it to the usb
[12:51] <cfhowlett> quants, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[12:52] <WizardGed> o my please no.
[12:52] <WizardGed> please say tinycore has a hybrid kernel image
[12:53] <WizardGed> unetbootin is so messy
[13:08] <ghostlines> I can't manage to disable mysql starting when booting up. I even removed the init script from /etc/init.d/. What may I be doing wrong?
[13:11] <somsip> ghostlines: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/53671/ubuntu12-04-how-to-disable-a-daemon-process-at-startup
[13:13] <cl4r1ty_> hello
[13:15] <iptable> ghostlines, it's using upstart
[13:15] <iptable> ghostlines, so in /etc/init/
[13:15] <Hardtail> Can you talk about WINE in this channel or is it best to go somewhere else?
[13:15] <somsip> Hardtail: $winehq IIRC
[13:15] <Hardtail> somsip thanks!
[13:15] <iptable> ghostlines, like that: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[13:15] <somsip> #winehq...
[13:20] <ghostlines> iptable nice! thx alot
[13:28] <mroszkowski> hello there everybody
[13:28] <mroszkowski> Does anyone in here know anything about ntopng?
[13:29] <introom> if FILE_A exists, then ln -sfv ~/FILEA .config/FILEA will create a new file ~/FILEA/FILEA
[13:29] <introom> is there an option that directly creates a file at .config/FILEA
[13:31] <hateball> !ask | mroszkowski
[13:32] <somsip> introom: if I understand you right, best to map a bash alias to a function that makes the test and takes the action
[13:32] <somsip> introom: or a short bash script...
[13:33] <mroszkowski> Soooo, I'm wondering if there's any prefered alterantives to ntopng that look as polished but don't require a paid-license for the netflow collector.  Since they moved to ntopng from ntop, the collection of external flows has also moved to the nProbe process, which requires a license.
[13:33] <introom> somsip: yup. you understand me right.
[13:45] <ubuntu-studio> hey
[13:50] <Valduare> so I was just upgrading my old eee pc 901 from 13.10 to 14.04 and it failed
[13:50] <Guest53835> hello. I am trying to do this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/157128/proper-fstab-entry-to-mount-a-samba-share-on-boot on ubuntu 14.04 is there any chages I need to consider? because it seems something is failing, and I cant identify
[13:50] <Valduare> now I cant boot it up, stuck on black screen with cursor blinking
[13:50] <somsip> !textmode | Valduare
[13:51] <Valduare> try booting into recovery and it tries to remount my / filesystem and seems to hang
[13:51] <Lioncourt> can anyone in here help with DRBL on ubuntu please ?
[13:51] <somsip> !nomodeset | Valduare (might be worth a try)
[13:52] <Valduare> it starts loading but ends up with black screen with cursor
[13:52] <Valduare> grub loads etc I can get to recovery screen but any option fails when it tries to chroot
[13:52] <Guest53835> ...and I have one more question...I just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 installation to ubuntu 14.04 formating the root partition but not the home the point is now I have a new admin user which installed the system and only the old users folders...is there a way to bring them back to active login?
[13:53] <bekks> Guest53835: you did not upgrade, you reinstalled ;) As the new admin user, just copy the folders back to where they have been. Thats should do the trick.
[13:56] <Valduare> Guest53835: you will also have to re-create all the users
[13:57] <JogEvil> Good day to all
[13:57] <Valduare> hows it going JogEvil
[13:57] <JogEvil> Its going ok thank you
[13:57] <eeee> Guest53835: how many are there?
[13:57] <JogEvil> how about you
[13:58] <Valduare> not too bad - got your coffee yet?
[13:58] <JogEvil> hhhhhhhhhhh
[13:58] <JogEvil> i hade to many today
[13:58] <Valduare> not possible
[13:58] <JogEvil> so you know me from the other side correct ???
[13:58] <Guest53835>  eeee 4
[13:59] <eeee> Guest53835: ok
[13:59] <JogEvil> from the east side of town right
[13:59] <Valduare> ?
[13:59] <Guest53835> bekks the folders are where they should under the /home folder
[14:03] <burkmat> Trying to install Ubuntu onto a Dell M3800, having some trouble with GRUB. During normal installation, I'm told "grub-install: failed to install". I read something about GRUB having to be installed on /dev/sda on newer machines - can somebody confirm this? /dev/sda is my big slow HDD, and /dev/sdb is my SSD.
[14:03] <cfhowlett> burkmat, eh?  doesn't sound right.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | burkmat try again with the "restore grub" option here
[14:04] <cfhowlett> burkmat, assuming you ran a live ubuntu session, how ubuntu friendly is that m3800?
[14:05] <burkmat> cfhowlett: I'm told it's supposedly extremely Ubuntu-friendly. I was shocked to notice touch-screen worked out of the box on LiveCD. Already tried to manually fix grub btw, either getting a message about "GRUB_CRYPTODISK_ENABLE" not being set in /etc/default/grub, which seems to be a fake error.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> burkmat, good to know.  trying to find an official dell outlet here in beijing ... else it'll have to be the lenovo x1 carbon
[14:08] <Raja> heloo folks!!i m new to ubuntu development..anyone please helpme out how to begin??
[14:08] <cfhowlett> !contribute | Raja,
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Raja, bug fixers are always welcomed ...
[14:08] <Raja> thank you@ubottu and cfhowlett
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Raja, happy2help
[14:12] <burkmat> cfhowlett: Tried grub-install /dev/sdb from liveCD, tried chrooting into the crypted lvm root fs and grub-installing from there... not having particularly much success. any tips?
[14:13] <EiriksHDD> hello, I am trying to delete a directory as well as it's sub-directories, and the files that are in those directories, it says i don't have permission even though i used sudo, please tell me how to do this
[14:13] <cfhowlett> burkmat, I've not touched this configuration so I'm reluctant to guess/advise.  suggest you consult the dell forums for more informed info
[14:15] <usr13> EiriksHDD: What filesystem is it?
[14:15] <usr13> EiriksHDD: You may need to chmod +w it
[14:15] <EiriksHDD> it's in my home folder
[14:15] <usr13> EiriksHDD: You may need to chmod +w -R it
[14:15] <EiriksHDD> ok, thank you
[14:15] <EiriksHDD> trying it now
[14:16] <usr13> EiriksHDD: Well, I think I have that backwards, chmod -R +w
[14:16] <mroszkowski> EricksHDD: sudo rm -rf /path/to/directory should work
[14:16] <usr13> EiriksHDD: But secify the directory...
[14:17] <mroszkowski> the "-f" is force and the "-r" is recursive
[14:17] <usr13> mroszkowski: I was assuming that is what he did...
[14:17] <usr13> EiriksHDD: But yes, as mroszkowski suggests, try -rf
[14:18] <EiriksHDD> awesome, mroszkowski your solution worked, thank you
[14:19] <usr13> EiriksHDD: What command were you using that did *not* work?
[14:19] <EiriksHDD> i tried sudo rmdir
[14:19] <usr13> EiriksHDD: If it was rmdir, that is only for empty ones.
[14:20] <usr13> EiriksHDD: from the man file:  "rmdir - remove empty directories"
[14:20] <EiriksHDD> okay that makes sense, i did try sudo rm -r but that didn't work either
[14:21] <EiriksHDD> so i needed the -rf (recursive, force)
[14:21] <mroszkowski> EiriksHDD: don't forget the "f" to force it to remove the directory even though it has files in it.
[14:21] <mroszkowski> EiriksHDD: yes
[14:21] <usr13> EiriksHDD: rm -rf  is the standard way to remove a directory that is not empty.  But be sure you get the path correct, it can be a dangerous command.
[14:21] <mroszkowski> Agreed
[14:22] <EiriksHDD> yes, i also know it can be a pain to recover, but not to much :)
[14:22] <EiriksHDD> thank you both for the assistance
[14:22] <quantumpants> whats the best startup usb creator? also whatss the Terminal code to use?
[14:23] <usr13> quantumpants: dd
[14:23] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, "best" is the one you like.  ubuntu-startup-disk creator and unetbootin work well
[14:24] <usr13> quantumpants: dd if=name-of-iso of=/dev/sdb   #Where sdb is *really* the target device.
 how do i download ?
[14:25] <usr13> quantumpants: wget or torrent
[14:25] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, download ... what?
[14:25] <usr13> quantumpants: You are talking about downloading the ISO image.  Right?
[14:26] <quantumpants>  <cfhowlett> unetbootin, you did tell me but i lost it sorry.
[14:26] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[14:26] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, or install via ubuntu software center
 thank you :-)
[14:28] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, happy2help
[14:28] <sennn> how long it will take to fix bash issue?
[14:28] <usr13> sennn: What bash issue?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> sennn, "when it's done".  the fix is not coming from canonical/ubuntu so ...
[14:29] <sennn> well bad news
 I never had this help with windows
[14:31] <rikkus> Hi
[14:31] <jhutchins> sennn: When you're dealing with a problem where you don't already know the solution, the only way to know how long it will take to fix it is to wait until it's fixed.
[14:31] <jhutchins> sennn: The shelshock and backslash issues have been fixed.
[14:31] <cfhowlett> quantumpants, welcome to ubuntu.  enjoy your stay.  :)
[14:32] <helmut_> hi
[14:32] <sennn> jhutchins in ubuntu?
[14:32] <jhutchins> sennn: Yes.
 I dont miss Windows one little bit! haha
[14:32] <cfhowlett> sennn, in ubuntu and in life
[14:33] <sennn> jhutchins thank you
[14:34] <somsip> CVE-2014-6278
[14:34] <somsip> jhutchins: this one is not addressed yet. I thought there were 2 outstanding vulnerabilities...
[14:35] <jhutchins> somsip: They are not considered to be significant security vulnerabilities.
[14:35] <rikkus>  sudo adduser --encrypt-home c => 'mount: No such file or directory', 'adduser: `/usr/bin/ecryptfs-setup-private -b -u c' returned error code 1. Exiting'
[14:35] <rikkus> Any idea why?
[14:35] <somsip> jhutchins: ah - I remember now. They are just local issues
[14:36] <usr13> somsip: Wasn't there a patch that came out for bash?
[14:37] <hncnae> join #c++
[14:39] <usr13> [bash]  "patch changes the encoding bash uses for exported functions to avoid clashes with shell variables and to avoid depending only on an environment variable's contents to determine whether or not to interpret it as a shell function"
[14:40] <usr13> That was the patch we just got...
[14:40] <somsip> usr13: 3 patches were released. there were also unfixed vulnerabilities with low impact and local scope only. Which I thought were 6277 & 6278, but reading those again they are still high risks. Reading more...
[14:40] <unregistered_bob> I'm trying to list files in a directory (and all subdirectories) that are NOT mp3 files. I used the terminal command ls -lR *[!mp3] and it still returned a bunch of mp3 files. I must have the syntax wrong. What's the right way to do it?
[14:40] <usr13> (3 days ago)
[14:41] <somsip> usr13: 6278 (link above so I wont paste again) was release 30th Sep, revised today
[14:41] <mroszkowski> bob: "find ./ -type f | grep -vE ".mp3$"
[14:41] <usr13> unregistered_bob: |grep -v mp3
[14:42] <mroszkowski> bob: drop that first quote in front of the find
[14:43] <iptable> mroszkowski, correction: find ./ -type f | grep -vE "\.mp3$"
[14:44] <iptable> mroszkowski, correction 2 even: find ./ -type f | grep -vE '\.mp3$'
[14:44] <iptable> unregistered_bob, ^
[14:45] <unregistered_bob> iptable: mroszkowski  thank you that worked!
[14:45] <mroszkowski> iptable: the dot would work... but you are correct, escaping it instead of using the regex "any character" is better... avoids bad matches.
[14:46] <iptable> unregistered_bob, mroszkowski, or even better, use find NOT capability: find ./ ! -name '*.mp3'
[14:46] <eeee> find has a NOT find?
[14:46]  * eeee head explodes
[14:47] <blippe> iptable, unregistered_bob, mroszkowski and please escape that ! with find ./ \! -name '*.mp3'
[14:47] <iptable> mroszkowski, unregistered_bob, without escaping the dot in grep -E, you will get false positives, it will for example match rob.mp3 but also robmp3
[14:47] <iptable> blippe++
[14:47] <iptable> or, to be sure: find ./ -type f -not -name '*.mp3'
[14:47] <iptable> unregistered_bob, ^
[14:48] <iptable> eeee, I know, how awesome is that! It also has regex matching too. and NOT regex matching too!
[14:48] <mroszkowski> find is just plain awesome
[14:48] <iptable> they thought of everything :)
[14:49] <unregistered_bob> thanks, dudes! that will work.
[14:50] <iptable> well, we aim at correcting each other until we get the best syntax possible, simplicity and speed-wise. live and learn.
[14:50] <iptable> I tend to get corrected often too ;)
[14:52] <burkmat> Looking for something like notify-send but which requires user action to dismiss. Anyone got any suggestions?
[14:54] <Fuchs> burkmat: technically the notify standard allows that, but whether the desktop showing these notifications does it correctly is up to it
[14:54] <Fuchs> burkmat: you could use zenity or yad
[14:58] <wheeei> Do you normally have your local webserver-files (websites) stored in the root-partion or home-partion ? I'm planning to have a lot of databases and lots of websites, I'm not sure if I should create a big root-partion och home-partion.
[14:58] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[15:00] <vitimiti> Hi
[15:01] <grobe0ba> wheeei, mysql and postgres put their database storage in /var
[15:01] <grobe0ba> personalized websites are generally in home directories if they have a local user account, e.g. a shell server
[15:02] <grobe0ba> otherwise, you'll have to set up some other system for them to deploy a web site and set up virtual hosts
[15:02] <Alive> I need some advice: package crda, when uninstalled from a Ubuntu 14.04 LTS causes a kernel panic. ( ie no complete boot-up just a frozen system with a stack trace on the screen ). package crda has a priority of optional noted in its control file. One would thus not expect a kernel panic after uninstalling it.
[15:02] <wheeei> ok so I should make the home-partion a bit bigger than most if I plan to develop a lot of websites locally grobe0ba ?
[15:03] <wheeei> I mean root-partion
[15:03] <wheeei> >.<
[15:03] <grobe0ba> not necessarily
[15:03] <cfhowlett> !info crda
[15:03] <grobe0ba> it all depends on the use case, and exactly how you plan to deploy web sites
[15:03] <wheeei> develop them locally and then upload through ftp..
[15:03] <cyber_dweller> can somebody help with samba permissions?
[15:04] <eeee> wheeei: will you use userdir_mod ?
[15:04] <Alive> I cant seem to find a proper place to report this exact kind of problem: since https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs is not very clear on this kind of report.
[15:04] <grobe0ba> or will you be using nginx?
[15:04] <wheeei> eeee yes, probably!
[15:04] <grobe0ba> there are a thousand different options, all of which change how things work
[15:05] <wheeei> grobe0ba well I want the setup that works the best for a developing a LAMP-site.
[15:05] <grobe0ba> wheeei, once again, that is not a question that has only one asnwer
[15:06] <grobe0ba> that question has literally a million answers
[15:06] <grobe0ba> you need to google, and figure out what's right for you
[15:06] <grobe0ba> also, apache sucks. use nginx
[15:06] <grobe0ba> apache is going the way of the dinosaurs
[15:06] <cyber_dweller> lighthttp
[15:06] <grobe0ba> cyber_dweller, no?
[15:06] <grobe0ba> nginx
[15:06] <grobe0ba> nginx is the leading performance httpd right now
[15:07] <wheeei> grobe0ba it's just for development anyway
[15:07] <grobe0ba> wheeei, how much disk space are you playing with?
[15:07] <wheeei> around 200gb
[15:07] <grobe0ba> i mean, the average website is maybe a couple of hundred mb
[15:07] <grobe0ba> unless you are hosting some pretty big files, it shouldn't really matter much
[15:08] <grobe0ba> or, you could go the really easy route, and not use seperate partitions
[15:08] <grobe0ba> one big partition with everything
[15:08] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[15:08] <wheeei> nah I want separate partitions
[15:08] <searching> hi 403 forbidden You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/ on this server.
[15:08] <wheeei> grobe0ba how does 60 gb for / 18 gb for swap and the rest for home?
[15:08] <wheeei> sound
[15:08] <grobe0ba> 18gb for swap is useless
[15:08] <grobe0ba> 4gb tops
[15:09] <grobe0ba> i would do 4gb swap, split the rest 50/50
[15:09] <searching> chmod 755 /cgi-bin
[15:09] <grobe0ba> searching, yup. go learn how apache works
[15:09] <cyber_dweller> wheeei, there's no difference, partition, using your whole drive, or using the partition. the most important is redundancy
[15:09] <wheeei> gah that swap-partion confuse me everyone is saying diffrent things
[15:09] <grobe0ba> you can't directly go /cgi-bin/script
[15:09] <searching> help me please
[15:09] <grobe0ba> wheeei, a good rule of thumb is 1.5x the amount of ram you have
[15:10] <wheeei> that would be 18gb
[15:10] <grobe0ba> but after 8gbs or so, that's stupid
[15:10] <grobe0ba> searching, already told you what's wrong
[15:10] <OerHeks> swap size depends, if you want to hybernate/sleep or not
[15:10] <grobe0ba> you need to learn how to use cgi and apache correctly
[15:10] <grobe0ba> which can be found in apache's manuals
[15:10] <searching> :))
[15:11] <cyber_dweller> grobe0ba, it depends at what you do. i'm using 12gibi of swap sometimes
[15:11] <searching> it is easy to say learn
[15:11] <grobe0ba> cyber_dweller, then you have a serious problem
[15:11] <somsip> searching: you did all of this about 5 hours ago. You do not need #ubuntu support. You need #apache
[15:11] <grobe0ba> and simply need to add more ram
[15:11] <cyber_dweller> grobe0ba, hhh
[15:11] <searching> ok
[15:11] <grobe0ba> do you mean you HAVE 12gb of swap, or you actually USE all of that 12gb?
[15:12] <grobe0ba> 'cause having it is simply a waste of space
[15:12] <cyber_dweller> grobe0ba, it's on my san system
[15:12] <grobe0ba> USING it all means you have a problem
[15:12] <grobe0ba> SAN should be low memory usage, medium cpu, high network and disk
[15:12] <cyber_dweller> grobe0ba, io cache issue
[15:12] <grobe0ba> oh
[15:12] <grobe0ba> use freenas with zfs and a zil
[15:12] <cyber_dweller> grobe0ba, it happens rarely but it happens
[15:12] <grobe0ba> and l2arc
[15:13] <grobe0ba> see, i thought you meant it was continuously like that
[15:13] <jaksi> hi
[15:13] <wheeei> somsip I didn't consider that I could need more space on root-partion for web-development 5 hours ago.
[15:13] <grobe0ba> for a development LAMP box, more than 4gbs of swap is pointless
[15:13] <grobe0ba> he'll never use it
[15:13] <jaksi> i'm trying to create a kickstart config which removes existing partitions and installs ubuntu
[15:13] <grobe0ba> wheeei, use freebsd and zfs, then it won't matter.
[15:13] <jaksi> but it can't delete LVM groups
[15:14] <jaksi> it asks for a confirmation during install
[15:14] <wheeei> grobe0ba made my mind up, thanx anyway!
[15:14] <jaksi> despite having 'clearpart --all' in my ks.cfg
[15:14] <grobe0ba> i'm happy to see clueless people stay where they belong. no skin off my back.
[15:14] <iptable> uhm no. you should have 1.5x your RAM if you want reliable hibernation
[15:15] <grobe0ba> iptable, yeah, i doubt it's hibernating
[15:15] <iptable> so if you have 12GB of RAM and want hibernation to work, I would advise AT LEAST 15GB, preferably 18GB.
[15:15] <grobe0ba> sounded more like a semi-remote always on dev box to me
[15:15] <cyber_dweller> hello, i have set a tftp server with a pxe that launches winpe, after i mount the remote share from winpe, net use \\hostname\folder /user:username password, i'm getting access denied while trying to execute setup.exe from a loop mount of a windows iso image. i assume it is a permission issue in samba and windows 7. did anyone encoutered this situation?
[15:15] <iptable> If you don't want hibernation, 4GB of SWAP should be more than enough. Truth being - if you hit swap as you ran out of RAM, you are doing something wrong.
[15:16] <wheeei> I want hibernation to work so yeah I will have 18gb swap
[15:16] <grobe0ba> iptable, you're wasting your time
[15:16] <grobe0ba> or not
[15:16] <ivo_> hello...I would like to assign an old home folder to a new active user is it possible?
[15:16] <grobe0ba> was about to say we've been over that
[15:16] <ivo_> with aplications and hidden files and folders?
[15:16] <grobe0ba> yes
[15:16] <iptable> wheeei, didn't you ask me exactly the same question about 4 hours ago and didn't you get exactly the same answer then?
[15:16] <ivo_> I mean sort of bring it back to login again
[15:16] <cyber_dweller> iptable, you can always add swap with files so don't worry to much about it
[15:16] <grobe0ba> just set it in /etc/passwd, and then update the permissions
[15:16] <iptable> cyber_dweller, no, for hibernation you cannot. hibernation doesn't work with swap files.
[15:17] <wheeei> iptable I didn't ask anything about the swap file now hehe it was grobe0ba who brought it up when I mentioned how I'm gonna partion my disks ;P
[15:17] <iptable> wheeei, oh, ok. I forgive you then :P
[15:17] <cyber_dweller> iptable, you can
[15:18] <cyber_dweller> iptable, Using a swap file instead of a swap partition requires an additional kernel parameter resume_offset=swap_file_offset
[15:19] <iptable> cyber_dweller, only if you install uswsusp which will modify the linux kernel suspend method to work with swap files. that's a hack, not a solution
[15:19] <iptable> suspending to swap file is not officially supported nor considered stable enough to promote. hence still the use of swap partitions. also hibernation to swap file only works on certain filesystems.
[15:20] <cyber_dweller> iptable, i'm on your side, just saying that it can be done, no hacks it works
[15:21] <ivo_> the exact question which answer I am looking for  would be: how to assign an old user's  folder to a new user under home partition on ubuntu 14.04
[15:21] <iptable> official guide here, which explains that we do advise to use swap partition as standard suspend method in the kernel do not support swap files: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[15:21] <iptable> replacing suspend/hibernate method of your ubuntu system is a bit hackish
[15:22] <iptable> ivo_, you want /home/olduser to belong to /home/newuser?
[15:22] <cyber_dweller> iptable, yes it's not the ubuntu way, i know.
[15:22] <iptable> ivo_, mv the contents, change the dir and file ownership
[15:22] <cyber_dweller> no specialists with samba here?
[15:23] <iptable> what do you need?
[15:23] <iptable> oh
[15:23] <iptable> let me re-read that
[15:23] <iptable> uhm, so on linux you have loop-mounted the windows ISO and shared it via samba?
[15:24] <iptable> cyber_dweller, ^
[15:25] <eeee> ivo_: look up usermod -m and -d options
[15:25] <cyber_dweller> iptable, yep. when i mount it in winpe as user it doesn't work. when i mount it as user root it works. same ocassions i've added uid=user gid=user to the mount command and it was mounted as user and group that i chose but file access was limited
[15:25] <eeee> ( type man usermod in the terminal )
[15:26] <searching> iptable cgi-bin folder must be in documentroot?
[15:26] <jopro> hola aialguien por aqui
[15:26] <searching> www/cgi-bin/ or cgi-bin www
[15:26] <somsip> searching: you've been asked to take this out of #ubuntu and to go to #apache
[15:27] <jopro> tengo problemas con wine
[15:27] <ObrienDave> !es | jopro
[15:27] <iptable> searching, no, it doesn't have to. as stated some hours ago, for me to help you configure your apache2 cgi problem, 1. give me your config files 2. give me your logs. all in pastebin. I will look into it for you.
[15:27] <searching> ok
[15:27] <usr13> wheeei: Not sure about the entire conversation but it is best to have a swap partition greater but closely equal to RAM and I always like having separate /home/ partition. And I do not think it is simpler or easier to have just one big partition.
[15:27] <iptable> cyber_dweller, you mean when you do the loop mount of the ISO on linux as root then it works, or when you access the share using root user from windows?
[15:28] <pbx> lately all the icons in my status bar are gray-on-white and very hard to distinguish. they still work. it didn't used to be like this. how can i get them back to normal appearance?
[15:28] <wheeei> hehe thanx usr13 that's what I've decided as well
[15:28] <usr13> Good
[15:28] <cfhowlett> usr13, 100% agree.
[15:28] <iptable> usr13, that's where he decided he will go at the end some time ago ;)
[15:28] <jopro> I have problems with wine apps do not connect to servers
[15:28] <cyber_dweller> iptable, no, the loop mount as uid=user gid=user and i mounting it as root from winpe. this is the only way it works
[15:28] <iptable> jopro, try #winehq
[15:29] <jopro> yes
[15:29] <iptable> cyber_dweller, define mounting from winpe. you mean accessing the samba share as user root with net use command?
[15:29] <jopro> pokerstar not conect server
[15:29] <wheeei> hehe true iptable the only difference is that I realised that I want my root-partion to be around 70gb instead of 30 because of web-development ;>
[15:29] <usr13> iptable: Sorry for the repetition, but the question comes up a lot and I like to see clear answers so that the lot of us are informed correctly .
[15:29] <cyber_dweller> iptable, exactly
[15:30] <iptable> wheeei, ah yes. if the VM will have /var/www with loads of stuff, then instead make / bigger
[15:30] <JCT> i need help
[15:30] <iptable> usr13, oh no, you are absolutely correct !
[15:30] <somsip> !details | JCT
[15:30] <cyber_dweller> JCT, what's the issue?
[15:31] <JCT> One of my apps wont work correctly.
[15:31] <JCT> youtube
[15:31] <JCT> it loads flash then video is paused and i can't unpause it
[15:31] <antonio__> film
[15:31] <cfhowlett> JCT, ease of the <enter> key = makes it much easier to read your message
[15:32] <iptable> cyber_dweller, so samba shares only allow you execution if you access them as root, but not if you access them as normal user(?). That sounds wrong. Can you launch them normally using a proper windows install? or using a linux access to the share and wine? just to see if it's winpe problem or samba issue
[15:32] <JCT> ok..... i don't think of all my words at once.
[15:32] <jopro> example pokerstar have installed in wine works but does not connect to the servers and had not been online
[15:32] <cfhowlett> JCT, don't send until you type.  we can wait.
[15:32] <JCT> ok.
[15:32] <iptable> JCT, how did you install flash?
[15:32] <usr13> JCT: You can use youtube-dl to download the video and whatch it with mplayer
[15:33] <iptable> jopro, as stated, take that to #winehq, they are more equipped to deal with windows-compatibility-layer apps
[15:33] <JCT> using the ubuntu software center. it works fine in firefox is what i forgot to mention
[15:33] <JCT> but i want use of the app
[15:33] <usr13> JCT: Then use firefox
[15:33] <JCT> ok......
[15:33] <cyber_dweller> iptable, i'll check that brb
[15:33] <iptable> JCT, works fine in firefox and doesn't work in what?
[15:33] <ObrienDave> chrome
[15:33] <iptable> cyber_dweller, cool. I like to eliminate issues one after another to know which component I should be troubleshooting first ;) it helps narrow it down.
[15:34] <jopro> #winehq
[15:34] <antonio__> film
[15:34] <usr13> ObrienDave: Yea, chorme has it's own player
[15:34] <cyber_dweller> iptable, it crossed my mind earlier but forgot about it
[15:34] <iptable> antonio__, we don't do warez here, nor promote it
[15:35] <iptable> ObrienDave, was that an assumption? ;)
[15:35] <mac_15> hi to everyone
[15:35] <ObrienDave> probably ;P
[15:36] <iptable> ObrienDave, well, he could be using IE via wine :D Or chromium. Or safari. Or ... what was the very bad one that some people like ... opera
[15:37] <ObrienDave> O.o wine, say no more ;P
[15:37]  * ObrienDave goes back to lurking
[15:37] <iptable> I did it once out of boredom. It almost worked!
[15:38] <ObrienDave> what? lurking? lol
[15:38] <iptable> hahaha, that made me choke on my tea :D Installed IE on wine! :D
[15:38] <iptable> message-order fail :D
[15:38] <ObrienDave> ROFL sorry about the tea
[15:39] <iptable> well, there's loads left in the cup. we're good :D
[15:39] <searching> iptable QRrS89C1
[15:39] <iptable> what's QRrS89C1
[15:39] <somsip> searching: oh for the love of god stop...
[15:39] <searching> pastebindotcom
[15:40]  * somsip is done
[15:40] <iptable> people normally don't ask me to guess which pastebin they used but give me a full link...
[15:40] <searching> http://pastebin.com/QRrS89C1
[15:41] <iptable> searching, really.... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/18392741/apache2-ah01630-client-denied-by-server-configuration
[15:41] <iptable> searching, all you have to do is copy-paste the error into google.
[15:41] <searching> yes
[15:41] <iptable> searching, fix your allow/deny rules
[15:41] <searching> I know
[15:42] <iptable> so why are you asking me
[15:42]  * cfhowlett wonders what the ...
[15:42] <dbear> I have a newish Thnkpad w520. Its a great piece of hardware. However, ubuntu sometimes fails to boot. I watch the kernel messages scroll by as things load and then it just hangs. It hangs before any init scripts start, so I'm pretty sure its a kernel issue. Can anyone recommend ways to troubleshoot this?
[15:42] <searching> to see
[15:42] <iptable> if you want me to point where you need to fix those rules, I got to say that I'm afraid I can't. I can't see your config file...
[15:43] <iptable> I already asked for it 3 times. you can't be serious with this attitude, can you?
[15:43] <iptable> dbear, hangs for up to 2 minutes and then suddenly continues?
[15:43] <cfhowlett> dbear, dmesg logs? or other logs should show more ifo
[15:43] <cfhowlett> *info*
[15:44] <dbear> cfhowlett: I've thought about scanning those, but I think the kernel hangs before it can mount the fs and start logging anything.
[15:44] <searching> the config is modified
[15:44] <searching> from start
[15:45] <iptable> that's why I wanted you to share it searching . I can't torubleshoot YOUR config without seeing it. I don't want default config now, do I? I can get it myself.
[15:45] <iptable> dbear, does it hang on empty screen for a few minutes ocasionally and then suddenly continues to boot?
[15:45] <iptable> dbear, is that what you are seeing?
[15:46] <iptable> searching, also, apache probably doesn't have access to your user's home directory... that's a permissions issue to being with!
[15:46] <searching> ERROR: An another FPM instance seems to already listen on /var/run/php5-fpm.sock
[15:46] <usr13> iptable: Why wouldn't it?
[15:46] <dbear> iptable: I see kernel boot message -- then I see a message sometimes related to 'two head' video, sometimes related to sdhci adapter -- and then the hange is permanent. It just stops.
[15:46] <quantumpants> how do I upgrade my 14.04 LTS to 14.04.1 in the terminal
[15:46] <searching> I have permissions
[15:47] <ivo_> iptable yes /home/olduser to /home/newuser because it is the same user! the point is I created a new admin user who did the upgrade. this new user is empty all my documents programs even mountain lion theme and compiz effects belong to that locked case now in the /home partition...a lot of work through the years...I should have made an ISO of that system...but I was eager to test 14.04
[15:47] <iptable> usr13, why wouldn't what? /home/robert here has 750 for robert:robert. www-data will NOT have access to it.
[15:47] <usr13> quantumpants: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:47] <ObrienDave> quantumpants, what is the output of      cat /etc/issue
[15:47] <iptable> searching, I don't know what you are doing. I can't read your mind OR see your screen. pasting mindless errors on their own will not help your case and I am loosing patence after hours of talking about this.
[15:48] <searching> tell the true
[15:48] <dbear> btw, I am using the nvidia driver because the nouveau driver was completely useless.
[15:48] <iptable> ivo_, change permissions to new user, copy or move stuff over to the correct dir.
[15:49] <iptable> dbear, two-head video? you have 2 GPUs? I.e. hybrid graphics?
[15:49] <iptable> dbear, try package nvidia-prime. it allows you to control which GPU is working.
[15:49] <ivo_> iptable there are tons of hidden folders
[15:49] <searching> I have installed nginx php5-fpm and fcgiwrap about a year and all fine but now I think is something with the changes
[15:49] <iptable> dbear, I can't help outside that. sorry.
 <usr13> thanks guys, is it worth upgrading?
[15:49] <lukevinc> ubunters? how i install fonts in ubuntu?
[15:49] <dbear> iptable: ok -- will check out the nvida prime package
[15:49] <dbear> thanks
[15:49] <iptable> ivo_, so? chown -R does recursive
[15:50] <ObrienDave> quantumpants, what did the command give you?
[15:50] <iptable> ivo_, chown -R newuser:newgroup /home/olduser
[15:50] <cyber_dweller> iptable, it seems like it's on the samba side
[15:50] <iptable> cyber_dweller, samba config snip pls
[15:50] <michele_> hi guys
 im chatting through a windows system now, ill be back on ubuntu in 10 mins
 why?
[15:51] <iptable> quantumpants, you do not upgrade from 14.4 to 14.4.1. You just upgrade packages and you system is the same as 14.4.1. sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade everything
[15:51] <iptable> including kernel ;)
[15:51] <ObrienDave> k. because that will tell you if you already have 14.04.1 most do
[15:52] <ivo_> iptable cool
 thanks
[15:52] <iptable> quantumpants, you should keep your system up to date ;)
[15:52] <michele_> how to open a file with a program executable?
[15:52] <iptable> michele_, /pat/to/program /path/to/file ?
[15:52] <iptable> michele_, what do you want to do exactly?
[15:53] <iptable> michele_, you can right-click, open with, other application
[15:53] <michele_> If i have a program saved in a specific program, how to open this with double click?
[15:53] <michele_> there isn't in the list
[15:53] <ivo_> iptable I ll try that...but..when I create a new user ubuntu creates a new folder for that user...so
[15:53] <iptable> michele_, you want to check the default program which will be opening a certain type of file?
[15:54] <michele_> because it's an application that i've not installed by software center
[15:54] <cyber_dweller> iptable, http://pastebin.com/ibx2Vfbb
[15:54] <ivo_> iptables first I will need to move contents to that new folder...
[15:54] <iptable> michele_, right-click=>properties=>open with tab=>choose it from list of enter custom application link in "custom command" bar
[15:54] <ivo_> iptables that will duplicate inner folders...no conflicts?
[15:55] <iptable> ivo_, it will merge
[15:55] <iptable> not duplicate
[15:55] <iptable> cyber_dweller, and you can login as user other than root using samba, only cannot execute?
[15:55] <usr13> iptable: I just tested it.
[15:56] <iptable> usr13, ?
[15:56] <cyber_dweller> iptable, positive
[15:56] <michele_> iptable look http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77987
[15:56] <usr13> iptable: apache2 serving  /home/gayle/html/index.html
[15:57] <ivo_> iptables 1st sudo  chown -R newuser:newgroup /home/olduser 2nd sudo mv /home/olduser /home/newuser is that it?
[15:57] <usr13> And NO you do not have to change permissions
[15:57] <iptable> cyber_dweller, ls -l as normal user shows you have execute rights to setup.exe? or just root has edxecute rights?
[15:57] <ivo_> iptable what about permissions? the olduser was admin and the newuser wont
[15:58] <iptable> usr13, that is because you have 755 on your user home dir. I have 750 and searching was as unhelpful in telling me what he has for 6 hours today as possible
[15:58] <cyber_dweller> iptable, dr-xr-xr-x 1 a a        564 Apr 14  2008 win
[15:58] <iptable> ivo_, change owner with chown -R
[15:58] <iptable> cyber_dweller, that output of setup.exe instead pls
[15:58] <cyber_dweller> iptable, -r-xr-xr-x 1 a a 1314816 Apr 14  2008 setup.exe
[15:59] <cyber_dweller> iptable, it's strange
[15:59] <iptable> cyber_dweller, ok, that looks fine. if on that linuix box you mount the samba share to /mnt for testing, does that still show same permissions via samba? as non-root user.
[16:00] <ivo_> iptable okay I ll give it a shot and I will send you feedback....you have an easy nick to remember
[16:00] <ivo_> iptable thanks
[16:00] <iptable> no probs
[16:01] <cyber_dweller> iptable, no if i mount it without uid or gid options than it's owned by root:root. but, still same issue unless i login as root at both attempts
[16:01] <Nosophorus_> hi!
[16:01] <cyber_dweller> iptable, probably some acl stuff in samba
[16:02] <iptable> cyber_dweller, I'm tempted to say unpack the iso to a writeable location and samba-mount that
[16:02] <ivo_> iptable how do I make newuser admin from terminal?
[16:02] <iptable> cyber_dweller, I'm clueless otherwise
[16:02] <iptable> ivo_, what do you mean make newuser admin?
[16:02] <iptable> ivo_, make him able to edxecute sudo?
[16:03] <ivo_> iptable as though that newuser was the one who installed the system
[16:03] <iptable> ivo_, add user to sudo, cdrom, adm groups
[16:03] <usr13> iptable: Oh, ok.  Well standard permissions are 755 for directories and 644 for files  Right?
[16:03] <iptable> ivo_, man usermod
[16:03] <iptable> usr13, yup
[16:03] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8480027/
[16:03] <cyber_dweller> iptable, if i'll find an answer i'll report back
[16:03] <iptable> usr13, but I refuse to trust him. 6 hours of pain and he still hasn't given me the bloody apache config...
[16:04] <iptable> cyber_dweller, yes pls. PM me if you find it. I'm curious.
[16:04]  * iptable goes to eat dinner. later all
[16:04] <usr13> iptable: Ok, just want to show how easy it is.  (Best to just use symlinks and have apache server from  /home/what-ever/what-ever
[16:05] <usr13> iptable: easy peasy
[16:05] <iptable> usr13, I know. and cgi deployment just-works! but it doesn' for him and he refuses to give me congis. took 4 hours of talk to get an error from his logs posted to me!
[16:05] <zamm> hiiiiiiiii
[16:05] <iptable> usr13, he refuses to cooperate and wants help. one of those.
[16:05]  * iptable really goes now
[16:05] <usr13> I'm just using default, (no changes...)
[16:06] <iptable> he wasn't...
[16:06] <usr13> Ok have a good lunch
[16:06] <jhutchins> usr13: having apache follow symlinks can cause a performance hit.
[16:06] <usr13> hows that?
[16:07] <usr13> jhutchins: Maybe so, but not sure it would be a noteciable one.
[16:07] <usr13> jhutchins: The ease of use is worth it.
[16:08] <nevermoreraven2> what is a dist-upgrade?
[16:08] <usr13> *noticeable*
[16:08] <nevermoreraven2> what is the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade?
[16:10] <usr13> nevermoreraven2: "in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the..."  well you can go and read it...
[16:11] <usr13> nevermoreraven2: (There's more, that's only about half of it, so go and read it)
[16:12] <leporello> nevermoreraven2, upgrade do it for current distro version, dist-upgrade upgrades to new version, i.e. 12.04 - 12.10
[16:13] <makersauce> wow, thats a lot of nicks.  Hey, so I have a directory thats -R g+w. nothing in it.  I'm in the group. But I cant create a file without bein root.  Insight?
[16:13] <nevermoreraven2> makersauce, pastebin your persmissions
[16:14] <nevermoreraven2> type "ls -l" without the quotes
[16:14] <usr13> leporello: Take a second look
[16:14] <jpds> leporello: You mean, 12.04 → 14.04.
[16:14] <makersauce> drwxrwsr-x 2 root webdev 4096 Oct  2 11:54 .
[16:14] <makersauce> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   4096 Oct  2 11:32 ..
[16:14] <makersauce> -rw-r--r-- 1 root webdev    0 Oct  2 11:54 hello.txt
[16:14] <usr13> !do-release-upgrade | leporello
[16:15] <dansmith_btc2> Hi, I spent some time searching online but I cant find the signed manifest file containing the hashes of all packages. Any idea where?
[16:15] <samthewildone> file:///usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/glass.ogg: Configured audiosink player-audiosink is not working.
[16:16] <robairt> hey does anyone know why I have amazon installed and it's calling itself a webap integration script?
[16:16] <leporello> usr13, oh, i see
[16:17] <cfhowlett> robairt, you don't have "amazon" installed unless you're looking at terrabytes of data.  you might have the amazon lens enabled.
[16:17] <[F_F]> Hi
[16:18] <usr13> leporello: It seems we do not have a factoid for do-rlease-upgrade but things have changed.  (Read the apt-get man file and look at the section for dist-upgrade
[16:19] <nevermoreraven2> makersauce you need to make that directory with the 3 and change its permissions to webdev for the group
[16:20] <nevermoreraven2> awww too late he left
[16:20] <daftykins> always the way.
[16:22] <Pici> usr13: we have a !dist-upgrade factoid fyi
[16:23] <usr13> Pici: Thanks inof.
[16:24] <usr13> *info*
[16:25] <x_root> 2 questions.. any irc client for cli?
[16:25] <cfhowlett> x_root, irssi
[16:25] <Pici> x_root: both irssi and weechat are popular.
[16:25] <x_root> what to do if compiz stop? tried to ctrl+alt+f2, compiz --replace
[16:25] <x_root> but didn't worked.. what should i have done?
[16:26] <x_root> or.. do* (dunno the correct =/)
[16:26] <x_root> thanks cfhowlett Pici, gotta download irssi then
[16:26] <cfhowlett> x_root, happy2help
[16:27] <x_root> what about compiz? is possible to replace from ctrl+alt+f* (2 to 6)?
[16:28] <SCHAAP137> x_root, Alt F2, compiz --replace
[16:29] <usr13> dansmith_btc2: Are you trying to figure out an easy way to verify checksums?
[16:29] <usr13> dansmith_btc2: If so,    google
[16:29] <usr13> dansmith_btc2: Just dump it in the google search bar of firefox and hit enter.
[16:29] <x_root> SCHAAP137, i could not have this.. tried alt+f2 and nothing.. so i went to ctrl+alt+f2 session..
[16:30] <x_root> logged as my user (on root group) and tried to compiz --replace
[16:30] <x_root> i received a msg as problem with display (could not sent to any display, as display :0)
[16:31] <SCHAAP137> should be ran from within the X session
[16:31] <SCHAAP137> X still running, but compiz crashed?
[16:31] <x_root> i think x crashed too in the moment..
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> a few years ago Ctrl Alt Backspace used to restart X session
[16:32] <x_root> hm..
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> if i remember correctly
[16:32] <SCHAAP137> but only from within X
[16:33] <usr13> SCHAAP137: Still does
[16:33] <x_root> hm.. gotta try if happens again...  but, is possible to sent from *f2 to *f7?
[16:33] <genii> !dontzap
[16:33] <genii> Hm
[16:33] <SCHAAP137> cannot remember, i use Xmonad here without any GFX candy x_root
[16:33] <x_root> like.. the session in the f7 crashed, is possible to do anything from f2?
[16:33] <x_root> hm..
[16:33] <daftykins> SCHAAP137: by few years yeah you're talking over 5
[16:33] <SCHAAP137> hehe, i guess so, it was some time ago daftykins
[16:33] <genii> x_root: Usually then just to sudo service lightdm restart
[16:34] <Sta1ker> exit
[16:34] <x_root> hm..
[16:35] <x_root> i'll try that next time.. thanks SCHAAP137 daftykins genii :)
[16:35] <SCHAAP137> cool, yw x_root
[16:36] <x_root> :)
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> and indeed x_root
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> irssi is very nice
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> i prefer it above weechat
[16:36] <SCHAAP137> but some ppl like weechat more
[16:37] <SCHAAP137> there's also http://www.bitchx.com/
[16:38] <SCHAAP137> anyone in here using BitchX as irc client?
[16:38] <_Trullo> mirc
[16:38] <dansmith_btc2> usr13, what exactly should I google? I need a canonical-signed hash of the package. An unsigned hash alone is not enough.
[16:39] <_Trullo> sorry, disregard from that comment :)
[16:39] <SCHAAP137> mIRC is nice as well :P
[16:42] <test_xx> irssi is configured, thanks guys o/
[16:42] <test_xx> if i have a problem, i'll ask help from here :D
[16:42] <SCHAAP137> that's Kool & The Gang, test_xx
[16:42] <x_root> SCHAAP137, :D
[16:42] <Dragnell> hello to *
[16:42] <x_root> well, now i'll be away.. have to study .. o/
[16:43] <Dragnell> regarding to openstack in HA
[16:43] <Dragnell> what should be the minimount amount of server required for it
[16:44] <desti_T2> has ubuntu still out of the box support for parallel port scanner?
[16:44] <derfdref2> Networking question: am I wrong in thinking that if bridge_stp is off in an /etc/networking/interfaces bridge stanza, there's no point in having _fd, _hello, _maxage etc. lines?
[16:47] <strixUK> there used to be an alternative install ISO that had md and lvm support (or at least, enough manual intervention where you could set that stuff up manually).  what's the equivalent for 14.04?  or is it just the one ISO now?
[16:48] <cfhowlett> strixUK, alternative install iso is no more.  try the .mini for a text installer --- or server
[16:49] <strixUK> cfhowlett: yeah, server is definitely what i want
[16:49] <cfhowlett> !server | strixUK
[16:49] <strixUK> that has lvm/md?
[16:49] <cfhowlett> strixUK, indeed it does
[16:50] <strixUK> excellent.  and xen etc, though i presume that's really just another deb
[16:50] <strixUK> !kernel
[16:50] <strixUK> (just wondering what specifics about the server kernel)
[16:50] <strixUK> cfhowlett: i have a box here that has been sitting doing nothing because when i last tried to do this, there appeared to be some sort of race condition between md and lvm
[16:51] <strixUK> lvm would try to assemble before md had finished assembling, and initramfs would drop to a shell
[16:51] <samthewildone> I've been getting this error for quite a while > http://pastebin.com/WL7HfVN9
[16:51] <strixUK> hacking in 'sleep 1' at some point did seem to fix it, but bleh
[16:51] <strixUK> i'd rather a more permanent fix
[16:51] <samthewildone> Did some googling and tried some solutions but, doesn't seem to fix the error
[16:52] <cfhowlett> strixUK, I've only done lvm in virtualbox, but I'm pretty sure you find !server quite lvm/md friendly.  ask in the #ubuntu-server for more direct suppport
[16:52] <Hardtail> !git
[16:53] <OerHeks> samthewildone, those messages seem valid
[16:54] <Hardtail> !theme
[16:54] <OerHeks> samthewildone, that would happen when you start a program with a gui from terminal, try "firefox" those errors are scary :-D
[16:57] <eeee> samthewildone: maybe you have a ghost process ? try pkill alarm
[16:57] <samthewildone> eeee, nope
[16:57] <derfdref2> I feel like Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense
[16:57] <samthewildone> eeee, I get those errors on fresh reboot, even when I'm compiling / building an application I get the error.
[16:57] <eeee> i see ghost processes
[16:57] <eeee> :P
[16:58] <derfdref2> That's the kid. Brucey's just invisible.
[17:13] <samthewildone> !flash
[17:15] <guest-lkajdf_431> where is the best place to locate/create a shared folder on the local system? (Not to share over a network, but to share between users on the same local machine).
[17:16] <guest-lkajdf_431> obottu
[17:16] <goopen> hi ppl, what do you guys think of steam on linux? Any pleasant experiences yet? Im thinking about drivers etc. performance?
[17:16] <purezen> Hi guys, I have been using 14.04 since a while.. Now I am unable to boot into the system..
[17:16] <kbasher> How to set timezone in linux... really... this method works!  http://pastebin.com/pdhvqFTP
[17:16] <purezen> When I boot it on and select the distribution from the grub menu.. It says, 'error: attempt to read or write outside of idsk hd0 press any key to continue'
[17:17] <purezen> Anyone? Thanks :)
[17:17] <guest-lkajdf_431> obottu;
[17:17] <guest-lkajdf_431> obottu,
[17:17] <goopen> purezen, what did you do prior to this?
[17:17] <guest-lkajdf_431> trying to use is all
[17:17] <mheld> hey y'all
[17:17] <daftykins> guest-lkajdf_431: can you stop attempting to abuse the bot, please
[17:18] <mheld> anybody know why my broadcom wifi chipset (using the b43 driver) isn't showing encripted bssids when i scan for wifi?
[17:18] <purezen> goopen: Hi.. Nothing that I can remember.. Though, I think I installed the updates just.. Only a few packages were listed iirc..
[17:18] <mheld> using a broadcom 43340
[17:18] <mustmodify> is there some kind of set subtraction in bash? I want   `find /x -type f` disjoint `find /y -type f`
[17:19] <goopen> purezen, im not sure I can help you but im quite you need to provide a little more detail. Stuff just doesnt break out of nothing - even tho it can appear so many times.
[17:19] <kbasher> grep -v
[17:19] <kbasher> inverse match ?
[17:19] <purezen> I even tried to boot using an older kernel from the Advanced options listed in the grub menu.. but still can't boot in goo
[17:20] <purezen> goopen: Oh, yeah.. Tell me what info can I provide to you in that case?
[17:20] <goopen> purezen, look here; http://askubuntu.com/questions/416418/error-attempt-read-write-outside-of-disk-hd0
[17:21] <leporello> mheld, seems like b43 doesn't support your chipset
[17:21] <mheld> leporello: hmm
[17:21] <purezen> goopen: Yeah.. saw through that.. but not for me :( That's related to the motherboard and its a diff. one too
[17:21] <mheld> that would make senes
[17:22] <leporello> mheld it was propietary driver for broadcom chipsets
[17:22] <leporello> broadcom-wl or something like this
[17:23] <goopen> purezen, well im sorry I dont know much about this area. But just stay here in the channel - hopefully somebody can help you out
[17:23] <guest-lkajdf_431> guys - alll I'm finding on google so far is for sharing dirs across a network, not between users on the local machine. I've tried to do this in the past and ran into problems because the location I chose to create the dir and or the way I want about it (using soft links between the users home dir and just /home). If anyone can point me to information on the internat (I'm mean instructions a 4 yr old could follow); or is willi
[17:23] <guest-lkajdf_431> it - please do.
[17:23] <guest-lkajdf_431> thanks in advance  :0
[17:23] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, I think you should create a folder with correct permissions 770, if i understand correctly what you're up to, and place it under /home dir. So let's say you have /home/tarzan (as user1), /home/jane (as user2), /home/tarzan-jane-shared (as shared dir)
[17:24] <trism> mustmodify: you want the paths from the first find which are not in the second find? find . -type f -name 'foo*' -and \! -name '*bar' -print; something like that?
[17:24] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, and create a shortcut on their desktops as well.
[17:25] <leporello> guest-lkajdf_431, or you can create it anywhere with same permissions. /share or /srv/share, which you can share to network if you want
[17:26] <guest-lkajdf_431> sp3ck: ok. That's the general way I tried to do it before. I must have made mistakes when I tried it first time. I'll giver it a shot and come back if I have probs.
[17:26] <guest-lkajdf_431> thx
[17:26] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, if you want a more automated solution upon creating new users an they all have the same dir as shared, I suppose you can modify the default bash profile
[17:27] <sp3ck> no p.
[17:27] <purezen> goopen: Sure :)
[17:29] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: I use nfs
[17:29] <usr13> !nfs | guest-lkajdf_431
[17:29] <guest-lkajdf_431> sp3ck, There's just one more thing I'd like to ask for clarification on/be reminded. By default, the /home dir on ubuntu 14 has -->  drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  <--  perms/ownership. Now, isn't there something in linux about how the perms/ownership of a parent dir effects the perms of the sub dir in it? And, what is that about?
[17:30] <guest-lkajdf_431> only interested in local shared dir tho, but thanks
[17:30] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: Permissions and ownerships are controlled by you.
[17:30] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: Oh, shared between users on the same machine?
[17:31] <guest-lkajdf_431> usr13: yes, I undrerstand.
[17:31] <guest-lkajdf_431> usr13: yes
[17:31] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: Also look into groups
[17:31] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: /etc/group
[17:31] <guest-lkajdf_431> But when I struggled with this before I think it was bc I didn't understand the way perms work between parent and sub dir and all that
[17:32] <guest-lkajdf_431> iirc, if the parent dir has tighter perms than the sub dir, then the parent dir's perms take precedence??
[17:32] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: Probably because you did not correctly set permissions and did not have everyone in the same group
[17:32] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, i think your point envolves umask but generally for your purpose, no
[17:33] <usr13> Well they both matter but.. generally no
[17:33] <guest-lkajdf_431> ok
[17:33] <sp3ck> involves**
[17:35] <usr13> guest-lkajdf_431: See section, "Setting Default Permissions with Umask" (about 2/3 way down) at https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/linux-permissions-basics-and-how-to-use-umask-on-a-vps
[17:36] <guest-lkajdf_431> usr13: cool.
[17:37] <Dylan> I just download f.lux and the fluxgui/indicator applet. When I run the file, no GUI opens. Anyone know what's going on here?
[17:38] <Dylan> Using Ubuntu 14.04
[17:40] <daftykins> Dylan: what was the file you downloaded? ideally you should stick to installing packages
[17:40] <Dylan> Let's see here...
[17:41] <Dylan> I installed fluxgui from the terminal.
[17:41] <Dylan> And right now it shows up as running in my System Monitor.
[17:41] <Dylan> But there's no GUI to interact with.
[17:42] <daftykins> Dylan: if you can, try and respond on less lines so i don't have to keep looking up and down multiple screens to glue your conversation together. it's very spammy.
[17:42] <Dylan> Understood.
[17:42] <daftykins> ok so that's a very diferent version than i first expected, have you consulted their documentation to how the program works under Linux?
[17:43] <Dylan> No.
[17:44] <daftykins> that would be port of call #1 then in my opinion
[17:45] <burkmat> So it seems that when attempting to install to a hybrid laptop, the installer first wonders which disk to install the OS to, then just tries to install GRUB to whatever disk was first in the list. When that failed, I was prompted to select a new location for GRUB, but doing so failed the install anyway. Setting up my own partition table and selecting the right GRUB-disk from the get-go seems to have resolved it.
[17:45] <Dylan> Looking it up now. You mentioned that's a very different version than you first expected. Which version were you expecting?
[17:45] <guest-lkajdf_431> usr13: ok, I didn't see a mention of whether umask is global (when you change the setting it goes from /root down recursively) or more local (you have options and can set multiple umask values for specific dirs under /root). However, I only ask from curiousity since I don't think umask is really needed in my case (I only need a single shared folder where the members of that group have full access but if you aren't a member of
[17:45] <guest-lkajdf_431> nothing).
[17:45] <guest-lkajdf_431> With that in mind...
[17:45] <daftykins> Dylan: it sounded like you had downloaded either a .deb or archive of the program at irst and were having issues installing it, no matter.
[17:46] <WodgeyD> Please help with a RAID issue (this is not an unubtu question but I am running Server 14.04)
[17:46] <guest-lkajdf_431> I want to ask, what would each of the /home, /home/<shared_dir_name>, and links - perms look like to accomplish that?
[17:47] <daftykins> WodgeyD: #ubuntu-server
[17:47] <Dylan> And I'm not finding any documentation regarding it. Weird.
[17:47] <WodgeyD> I have 4 ssd's in my server connected to 2 x 2port raid cards. I am 90% sure that I have set BOTH raid cards to see their 2 drives as a striped array, however my server see's 1 array and 2 separate drives.
[17:47] <guest-lkajdf_431> or anyone who can help  :>
[17:47] <WodgeyD> oh, thanks.
[17:48] <WodgeyD> daftykins going there now
[17:49] <guest-lkajdf_431> something like drwxrwxr--       on all of them??
[17:49] <G9X37> Test
[17:49] <G9X37> Hi
[17:49] <G9X37> Could someone be so kind as to point me to the HTML5 channel?
[17:50] <daftykins> !alis | G9X37
[17:50] <jamiejackson> i'd like to install apache 2.2.15 (or something close to it), which was available in maverick. can i add a maverick repo and specify the apache version when i install somehow?
[17:50] <burkmat> G9X37: I'm guessing #html5.
[17:50] <G9X37> Nice!
[17:50] <daftykins> jamiejackson: no, that's a very terrible idea.
[17:50] <guest-lkajdf_431> G9X37: There is also  a #programming on freenode
[17:50] <Dylan> Daftykins: I'm not too concerned with the program f.lux itself. All I'm interested in is being able to change the hue on my computer screen. Do you know of any other program that does that?
[17:50] <G9X37> Awesome
[17:50] <daftykins> Dylan: not a clue
[17:50] <G9X37> thanks guys
[17:51] <Dylan> Darn.
[17:52] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, w?
[17:53] <chawki> hi
[17:54] <G9X37> Hi chawki
[17:54] <G9X37> Politics aside
[17:54] <G9X37> what is the advantage of using Ubuntu over Windows Operating systems?
[17:55] <xangua> !ot | G9X37
[17:55] <camtron> If I close my laptop lid and the computer suspends while gcc is compiling a large program, will that mess it up?
[17:55] <G9X37> Is it the coding?
[17:55] <WodgeyD> problem was in the user, not in the computer! lol
[17:56] <daftykins> WodgeyD: what was it?
[17:56] <guest-lkajdf_431> sp3ck: sorry, I asked a question about umask only out of curiosity, so that one doesn't matter. What I really wanted to ask is what the perms and ownership ought to look like for /home (what would be the parent dir of my shared folder), for /home/<the_shared_dir>,  and for any soft links that would be used to connect the user to the shared dir. Now I'm guessing about the need for links, maybe using links to make the shared di
[17:56] <guest-lkajdf_431> home dir is not the right way).
[17:57] <guest-lkajdf_431> guess there's two questions in the above. Whether to use links to show the shared dir in each user's /home/<user_name>
[17:58] <guest-lkajdf_431> and what the perms of parent and sub dir would look like exactly
[17:59] <jamiejackson> what's a decent way to install apache2.2 on a 14.04 server (instead of the 2.4 version of apache that's in trusty repos)?
[17:59] <pdelgado> hello
[18:00] <pdelgado> having trouble mounting an AFP share from my mac server on Ubuntu… Getting this error message: “Could not connect, never got a response to getstatus, Connection timed out”
[18:00] <pbx> jamiejackson, i see there's an 'apache2.2-bin' package, that's all i kow
[18:00] <pbx> *know
[18:00] <pdelgado> found a history in a related bug from 2012… i would assume that its been fixed
[18:01] <sp3ck> jamiejackson, you could try to provide 12.04's repos and try to install it, but is just a guess
[18:01] <ytain>  hello, need a bit of help with "low graphics mode" in trusty, the solutions provided in askubuntu.com doesn't work for me at all. ubuntu is installed on my laptop powered by N3520 intel processor and video chipset integrated into the processor and the driver for it is i915
[18:03] <WodgeyD> filesystem question. I want to encode video to a striped array. What is best type offilesystem? ext3/4? other? ALso, which is best partition table type? gpt/other/msdos?
[18:03] <WodgeyD> ^^ of filesystem **
[18:04] <Sawyer> hola
[18:05] <Sawyer> hay alguien??
[18:05] <jamiejackson> sp3ck: daftykins hated that idea when i proposed it :) for what it's worth, this is just a local development environment, so it doesn't need to be perfect
[18:05] <parabinn> 우리나라
[18:05] <OerHeks> !es | Sawyer
[18:06] <pdelgado> ytain: try to be more specific??
[18:06] <daftykins> jamiejackson: why would you run outdated software though? it makes zero sense
[18:07] <jamiejackson> daftykins: servers run 2.2.15. i need to be close to that in development environment
[18:07] <sp3ck> jamiejackson, so, compile from source or switch back to 12.04
[18:07] <OerHeks> !ko | parabinn
[18:07] <Jordan_U> ytain: Do you get full resolution and proper 3D acceleration if you boot from an Ubuntu 14.04 LiveCD/USB?
[18:07] <ytain> pdelgado, when I boot the ubuntu trusty version, it never reaches the login screen, instead the "low graphics mode" dialog comes up
[18:07] <sp3ck> jamiejackson, daftykins is right.
[18:07] <guest-lkajdf_431> I think people think I'm screwing around or trolling or someting but I'm not.  I was hoping somone would just tell me how to do it, period
[18:07] <jamiejackson> that's a common issue in development environments: matching server environments
[18:08] <guest-lkajdf_431> maybe they won't and that is fine. but...
[18:08] <guest-lkajdf_431> well
[18:08] <sp3ck> guest-lkajdf_431, i just PMed you mate!
[18:08] <ytain> Jordan_U, it worked just fine 3 days ago, it worked just fine for the last 6 months, however this problem started 2 days ago when I turned on the laptop
[18:08] <guest-lkajdf_431> oh, sorry
[18:08] <jamiejackson> okay, i'll look into compiling from source.
[18:09] <Anonyphun> Hi - I've got a question about creating a (persistent) Bootable USB - Can anybody help me out?
[18:09] <ytain> it started just after a weekly update of the ubuntu via software update
[18:09] <Jordan_U> jamiejackson: The other option is to create an Ubuntu 12.04 chroot (assuming the actual servers use Ubuntu 12.04).
[18:09] <ytain> and unfortunately I cannot revert the updates like in Win7
[18:09] <jhutchins> guest-lkajdf_431: /home should be rwxr-xr-x
[18:09] <daftykins> Anonyphun: not until you ask the actual question :)
[18:10] <robairt> cfhowlett, well this is from two hours ago but, when I say 'amazon' that's because that's what it was called in the "other" folder on my drop down. What it really was, was an amazon store app that had gotten installed somehow. which is why I was asking, anyone have idea what the hell it is
[18:10] <jamiejackson> Jordan_U: i'm actually working in docker (total noob tho), so i might be able to find an older docker box than the one i found
[18:11] <ytain> Jordan_U, it also worked fine with the external monitor which is FHD
[18:11] <ytain> now I'm running unaccelerated, meaning I had to get to the terminal and start manually the XServer
[18:11] <Anonyphun> K, I used Unetbootin to make a Mint 17 USB, but I need some kind of idiots guide(!)  I'm using a 32Gb USB, but I *think* I need to partition the drive to make a persistent area. Is that the case?
[18:12] <ytain> and some of the compiz effects are disabled as well
[18:12] <Jordan_U> !mint | Anonyphun
[18:12] <Anonyphun> ok thanks! Have a lovely evening. Cheers
[18:12] <Jordan_U> Anonyphun: You're welcome :)
[18:13] <trism> robairt: /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amazon-default.desktop probably, it is part of unity-webapps-common
[18:16] <Quatroking> hiii
[18:16] <Quatroking> Is this the right channel for support
[18:18] <Quatroking> 1784 users, 0 discussion
[18:18] <Quatroking> impressive
[18:18] <[Derek]> Hi
[18:19] <Quatroking> anyways, I got this awful problem with my ubuntu install
[18:19] <Quatroking> whenever I try to resume from suspend it crashes with a nouveau failed to idle error
[18:19] <Quatroking> this wouldn't be much of a problem except that it's my laptop, which I have to suspend between classes
[18:20] <Quatroking> I'd appreciate any help
[18:21] <Quatroking> I already tried adding a pcmia setting to grub but that didn't work
[18:21] <Quatroking> also tried installing the nvidia driver, but that didn't work either
[18:22] <Wulframn> Quatroking: this isn't a warning or anything, but do be aware that if you post too many lines too quickly you'll be muted by the flood bot.
[18:22] <Quatroking> oh
[18:22] <Quatroking> what's "too quickly"?
[18:22] <Mattias__> I just noticed I had 32bit ubuntu installed, so I thought I had downloaded the wrong iso. So I downloaded 64-bit ubuntu desktop, then I installed it by picking (erase ubuntu and reinstall) in the installation options. Now in the new install it still tells me 32-bit OS... Has the iso been mislabeld?
[18:23] <Wulframn> Quatroking: the rate you were posting at is fine. Much more quickly might trigger it. Try to fit as much on one line as you can stand.
[18:23] <pbx> Quatroking, try putting enough detail in one or two lines to give people something to respond to
[18:23] <Wulframn> Quatroking: :-P Just a friendly head's-up
[18:23] <Quatroking> alright
[18:24] <Quatroking> but yeah I'm pretty stumped right now
[18:24] <Quatroking> from what I understand the error shows up a lot with nvidia machines, which pisses me off a whole lot seeing how the whole reason I switched from win8 to ubuntu is because my nvidia card is dead lol
[18:25] <Wulframn> Quatroking: you're on 14.04 and your system crashes after being in suspend mode, is this correct?
[18:25] <Quatroking> Yep
[18:25] <Quatroking> nouveau failed to idle error
[18:25] <Quatroking> lemme just go and have it try to resume again, then type over the exact line
[18:26] <robairt> trism, ah, well at least thats an explination. I uninstaleld in the second I noticed
[18:26] <Anonyphun> (and I'm back!) I run Lucid (10.04). I have a 32Gb USB stick, and I want to create a (persistent) bootable USB. I downloaded an ISO because I thought that was the way to go -- but perhaps not.  Is there some way I can make what I need from the system I have?
[18:27] <Quatroking> Wulframn, nouveau E[Xorg[1076]] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0001 [Xorg[1076]]
[18:28] <rudar> can anybody help me? i have the same problem of this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115970/libimobiledevice-wants-to-remove-all-my-other-packages
[18:28] <Quatroking> this repeats every 10 seconds or so
[18:28] <Wulframn> Quatroking: ok hang on
[18:28] <jhutchins> Since I upgraded to 14.04, I don't seem to have a screensaver on xfce, and the system can't find the xfce power manager.  Any idea what I need to add?
[18:29] <Mattias__> So, can anyone tell me why ubuntu 64bit iso disk installs 32bit version? I switched from arch linux which ran 64bit without any issues.
[18:30] <Quatroking> Mattias__, link to iso?
[18:30] <Quatroking> you might want to try a different mirror as well, the 64bit iso I got off TU Twente here in NL worked fine
[18:30] <abdel> hello guy, please each time i open my transmission bittorent client it closes after 10 seconds
[18:31] <abdel> please i need help
[18:31] <OerHeks> Mattias__, it doesn't
[18:31] <daftykins> abdel: find where it stores its' configuration files and delete them
[18:31] <Mattias__> Quatroking: first I go here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download  select ubuntu desktop -> 64bit -> then I get this iso link: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you/?version=14.04.1&architecture=amd64
[18:31] <daftykins> (or rename)
[18:31] <abdel> i have done that and its still the same
[18:31] <Mattias__> OerHeks: system details says 32bit, uname -a says i686
[18:32] <Mattias__> I'm at a loss here, I don't know how it can even happen...
[18:32] <OerHeks> then your iso is 32 bit.
[18:32] <Quatroking> Try a different mirror http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:33] <Mattias__> Thanks, I'll try another mirror
[18:33] <Quatroking> also I suggest formatting the drive instead of "remove ubuntu and install" unless for some reason you are unable to
[18:33] <abdel> hello guy, please each time i open my transmission bittorent client it closes after 10 seconds
[18:33] <abdel> please i need help
[18:33] <daftykins> abdel: i already replied.
[18:33] <abdel> it not working
[18:33] <daftykins> abdel: what isn't? you have not stated trying anything
[18:33] <abdel> i have deleted it but it still the same sir
[18:34] <daftykins> abdel: try purge reinstalling the program
[18:34] <Wulframn> Quatroking: you're using the nouveau driver?
[18:34] <Mattias__> Quatroking: Yeah, I'll do that next time. But I'm pretty sure I did the same procedure the first time using 64bit. But after a month or so I noticed it was actually a 32bit install (64bit virtual machines etc didn't run etc)
[18:34] <abdel> daftykins, first my transmission was working fine, then all of a sudden it started closing on its own, i have deleted the transmission folder but its still the same
[18:34] <Quatroking> apparently? Sorry, I haven't used ubuntu since 8.10 so most things are new to me
[18:34] <jhutchins> seems like dpkg was hung for something.
[18:35] <abdel> please how do i purge
[18:35] <Mattias__> Quatroking: I mean, I did a full erase of the disk when I remover arch linux. The first time, with the default download 64bit iso :/
[18:35] <Wulframn> Quatroking: it sends line that driver is causing all kinds of grief. Try using the open-source driver.
[18:35] <daftykins> abdel: "sudo apt-get purge transmission" then "sudo apt-get install transmission"
[18:35] <Quatroking> Wulframn, alright, how do I switch
[18:35] <abdel> okay let me try, thanks
[18:36] <Quatroking> Mattias__, if you're unlucky a mirror somewhere has the iso mislabeled on its server
[18:36] <Wulframn> Quatroking: I'm doing this from my phone so it's going to take me a moment to get you set up.
[18:36] <Jordan_U> Mattias__: Check the md5sum of the image you downloaded.
[18:36] <Mattias__> Quatroking:  brb on windows to download and slap the iso onto the usb drive. my bouncer is mattias here so I'll be on that after the reboot.
[18:36] <Quatroking> Take your time
[18:37] <abdel> daftykins: av done that and stll the same
[18:37] <Wulframn> Quatroking: go to system settings / additional drivers. What is the activated driver?
[18:38] <daftykins> abdel: what distro and version?
[18:38] <Mattias> Jordan_U, I'll check the one I downloaded first now
[18:38] <hylian> i bought bation from the ubuntu store but it won't download. running it from terminal shows the download goes nowhere. (0% in 1 hour). I have high speed net, i could have downloaded it three or four times easy already... what's going on?
[18:39] <abdel> transmission gtk2.82-1.1 ubuntu 3.1
[18:39] <daftykins> abdel: no, the OS version
[18:39] <daftykins> abdel: "cat /etc/issue"
[18:39] <Mattias> Jordan_U, Where can I find the md5 checksum?
[18:39] <abdel> ubuntu 14.04
[18:40] <Quatroking> Wulframn, the X.org X server
[18:40] <Quatroking> all other choices are NVIDIA which is not going to work as the nvidia gpu is dead
[18:41] <Wulframn> Quatroking: you don't see "xorg-video-nouveau" or something?
[18:42] <Quatroking> I have 5 choices, 4 of which are nvidia, the 5th being the one currently activated; "Using X.Org X server - Nouveau display driver from xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (open source)
[18:42] <Wulframn> Quatroking: ok, one moment
[18:43] <daftykins> Quatroking: what made you think changing from Windows to Linux would mystically make a faulty graphics chip stop being a problem?
[18:43] <hylian> how do i get my money back for a game that refuses to download?
[18:43] <Quatroking> daftykins, nothing. It's just that the microsoft basic display driver is awful, whereas ubuntu makes much better use of whats left
[18:43] <Wulframn> hylian: on steam?
[18:44] <daftykins> Quatroking: is this a laptop with optimus?
[18:44] <Mattias> Quatroking, Jordan_U, know what? I think I'll actually go debian this time :) I've heard great things of it.
[18:44] <Quatroking> the laptop is an Acer Aspire 5742G
[18:44] <Quatroking> no idea if it has optimus, the card's an Geforce 420M
[18:44] <daftykins> what's the CPU model?
[18:44] <taaaaalidan> hey guys, i need some help.  bit a newbie, but for some reason my bootlaoder got screwed
[18:44] <taaaaalidan> i've now managed to boot into a rescue system, and mount my drives
[18:44] <taaaaalidan> and am reinstalling grub
[18:45] <Quatroking> daftykins, an i5 460M
[18:45] <taaaaalidan> But where is grub meant to isntall? i'm a little confused
[18:45] <hylian> Wulframn: no through the store.
[18:45] <daftykins> taaaaalidan: the hard disk device, e.g. /dev/sda
[18:45] <taaaaalidan> i've got a sda, sda1, sda2
[18:45] <taaaaalidan> sda1 is boot, sda2 is ubtunu install
[18:45] <genii> taaaaalidan: sda
[18:45] <taaaaalidan> Alright, i'll give it a go.  Cheers
[18:46] <daftykins> Quatroking: hrmm, do you see the intel graphics adapter from "lspci" also then?
[18:46] <Quatroking> that's a funny thing - the intel gpu isn't recognized
[18:46] <daftykins> Quatroking: does your BIOS allow selecting which GPU is in operation?
[18:46] <Quatroking> supposedly the nvidia card reroutes everything back from the CPU
[18:46] <Quatroking> nope
[18:46] <taaaaalidan> Thanks guys, gonna give this a go. later
[18:46] <daftykins> no it's the other way around
[18:46] <hylian> Wulframn: it looks like I am not the only one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-center/+bug/1361932. why wouldn't they solve this, it's been months.
[18:46] <Quatroking> err
[18:47] <daftykins> the intel draws the picture the nvidia provides
[18:47] <taaaaalidan> (gotta shoot off to the actual PC)
[18:47] <Quatroking> yeah, you're right
[18:47] <daftykins> Quatroking: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[18:47] <Quatroking> once I activate any driver that makes direct use of the nvidia, I get more artifacts on my monitor than hairs on my head
[18:47] <Wulframn> hylian: lots I could say on that subject. But this is the ubuntu support room so I won't. I'm not sure what your course of action should be as I don't use the Ubuntu store.
[18:47] <daftykins> Quatroking: ok, so if you want power modes to work you probably want to blacklist nouveau
[18:48] <Wulframn> daftykins: that is what I was trying to get at, but he'll need a generic driver right?
[18:48] <Quatroking> I actually tried blacklisting nouveau already, but that disabled any form of boot at all
[18:48] <daftykins> Wulframn: nope the intel will be fallen back on, assuming all is well
[18:48] <Quatroking> had to use a livecd to remove the blacklist
[18:49] <Quatroking> daftykins, nothing is well D:
[18:49] <Wulframn> daftykins: ah, TIL
[18:49] <daftykins> Quatroking: install pastebinit and run "lspci | pastebinit"
[18:49] <meatmanek> this OpenVPN USN is from a CVE that is 9 months old!
[18:49] <Quatroking> also that log was empty
[18:49] <meatmanek> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2368-1/
[18:49] <daftykins> Wulframn: it sounds like far more is up though, apologies for stepping on your toes on this one :)
[18:49] <hylian> Wulframn: well i'm going to restart, try everything I can, and if nothing happens, reign down fire and brimstone. sounds like a good plan ;)
[18:49] <Quatroking> sure, hold on
[18:49] <meatmanek> http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2013-2061 last updated: 1/03/2014
[18:49] <meatmanek> original release date: 11/17/2013
[18:50] <daftykins> meatmanek: do you have a support question?
[18:50] <meatmanek> do y'all have a time machine so I can go patch my systems last december?
[18:50] <Wulframn> daftykins: you're not stepping on my toes at all! I appreciate your taking the reins.
[18:50] <meatmanek> but no, mostly I'm ranting.
[18:50] <daftykins> Wulframn: :)
[18:51] <daftykins> meatmanek: take it elsewhere then
[18:51] <meatmanek> but I do actually want to know why this wasn't patched until now
[18:51] <Quatroking> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8480995/
[18:51] <daftykins> meatmanek: this channel has volunteers, not devs. you'll get nowhere here.
[18:51] <Quatroking> the intel gpu isn't listed
[18:51] <meatmanek> daftykins: where can I find that out?
[18:52] <daftykins> meatmanek: find 'what' out?
[18:52] <Quatroking> wasn't listed in windows either, but the intel specs state it has an intel gpu built-in though
[18:52] <meatmanek> why the patch for this security vulnerability was nearly a year late
[18:52] <daftykins> meatmanek: no
[18:52] <daftykins> i mean, i have no idea.
[18:52] <Quatroking> so do wikipedia and all these other cpu sites. According to several forum posts I came across it only provides the most basic video features which is also why only the MBDD would work on it
[18:53] <daftykins> Quatroking: hrmm there are a lot of different optimus implementations out there, i own one myself in an Asus laptop where i see both devices. it looks like you're just going to have to surrender power management modes like suspend on this thing due to its'... damaged status, i'm amazed you see a picture at all really
[18:53] <meatmanek> daftykins: I guess I'll respond to the USN email and hope Marc Deslauriers reads his email
[18:53] <trism> meatmanek: my guess is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvpn/+bug/1184223/comments/1
[18:53] <daftykins> Quatroking: I would definitely be interested to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log also
[18:54] <Quatroking> that file doesn't exist
[18:54] <daftykins> Quatroking: really? can you "ls /var/log/" ?
[18:54] <Quatroking> hold on
[18:54] <Quatroking> oh, it does, I did a typo
[18:54] <daftykins> :)
[18:54] <meatmanek> thanks trism
[18:54] <daftykins> i figured ;)
[18:54] <genii> Quatroking: The That's a zero and not uppercase letter O
[18:55] <Quatroking> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8481015/
[18:55] <VeiledSpectre> Excuse me everyone - I have some quuestions - I'd like to get into some ARM development.  can anyone tell me what the difference between the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi and the gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf packages are?  In addition, does installing the packages also install the pre-requiste c-library headers and runtimes?  Or is it assumed that such things are taken care of by your kernel image configuration on the target board?
[18:55] <Quatroking> wait, daftykins, might this be from my current session, instead of the attempted resume?
[18:56] <genii> VeiledSpectre: You might have better responses to those questions in the #ubuntu-arm channel
[18:56] <VeiledSpectre> genii: Thank you - did not know such a place existed
[18:57] <rudar> can anybody help me? i have the same problem of this guy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115970/libimobiledevice-wants-to-remove-all-my-other-packages
[18:58] <daftykins> Quatroking: it's using the nvidia device then yeah, is this standard ubuntu or are you using lu or xu?
[18:58] <Quatroking> standard
[18:58] <Quatroking> but aren't those all the same under the hood, other than the graphical shell?
[18:58] <daftykins> Quatroking: hmm i'm amazed the 3D of ubuntu's unity is still working for you without showing the artefacting. i think it's game over with that damaged machine i'm afraid, doesn't look like much choice there
[18:59] <daftykins> Quatroking: they use different desktop environments yes, i'd probably run xubuntu on yours to avoid the unnecessary graphical elements
[18:59] <Quatroking> I thought about that but tried vanilla ubuntu for the heck of it
[18:59] <Quatroking> Haven't seen a single artifact on this driver
[18:59] <Quatroking> the moment I try the nvidia driver it trips balls though
[19:02] <daftykins> Quatroking: what about if you run glxgears? :)
[19:02] <Quatroking> sure, hold on
[19:03] <Quatroking> working absolutely fine
[19:03] <daftykins> 0o
[19:03] <Quatroking> hey on windows I could even run broforce at a stable speed with no artifacts
[19:04] <daftykins> must be something the nvidia driver does that nouveau doesn't
[19:07] <Guest44225> This may or may not be the channel for a java / flash / firefox question - but using Ubuntu.  If not, tell me where to go.
[19:08] <genii> Guest44225: Best just to ask your actual question and see
[19:08] <rudar> http://pastebin.com/utS9XAXc
[19:09] <daftykins> rudar: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[19:09] <Guest44225> I am trying different things, like doing a line check on my internet.  It tells me now that my Firefox 32.0.3 doesn't have java and flash installed in my browser - though I did the same thing yesterday, and no such message or problem
[19:09] <rudar> daftykins: Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[19:10] <rudar> i'm no ubuntu user >_< but i can't find any help
[19:10] <Guest44225> genial: I am trying different things, like doing a line check on my internet.  It tells me now that my Firefox 32.0.3 doesn't have java and flash installed in my browser - though I did the same thing yesterday, and no such message or problem
[19:10] <daftykins> rudar: we do not offer help in here for non-ubuntu. please do not ask again
[19:10] <daftykins> ugh
[19:10] <Guest44225> genii: I am trying different things, like doing a line check on my internet.  It tells me now that my Firefox 32.0.3 doesn't have java and flash installed in my browser - though I did the same thing yesterday, and no such message or problem
[19:12] <Guest44225> Even Facebooki has a problem, telling me that I don't have flash / java installed.
[19:12] <genii> Guest44225: I take it this "line check" is some webpage from your provider ?
[19:12] <Guest44225> genii: Two options I have. One from my ISP, yes.  But the other, www.speedtest.net
[19:13] <Guest44225> Both worked fine yesterday, but today ... no
[19:14] <genii> Guest44225: If you do in Firefox URL bar:  about:plugins      ...does it show any java, flash, etc installed there?
[19:15] <Guest44225> genii: Shockwave flash 11.3 r202
[19:15] <Guest44225> genii: Doesn't show any java.
[19:16] <Guest44225> genii: But flash is shown as disabled
[19:16] <genii> Guest44225: That sounds like a Chrome Flash version, the regular one for linux only goes to 11.2.202
[19:17] <DeathTech> How can I create default windows, that are named, and running apps in byobu ?
[19:17] <Guest44225> genii: Can you tell me the basic idea to install java and the way to enable the shockwave or install adobe's flash?
[19:18] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:20] <blueingress> Hi, Is there a command line timer for linux?
[19:20] <med_> timeout
[19:20] <med_> well depends on what you mean
[19:20] <med_> "time fOO"
[19:20] <med_> will time the foo command
[19:21] <genii> Guest44225: For Flash, enable in the Software Center the "multiverse" repository and then install flashplugin-installer. For java, install package icedtea-7-plugin
[19:21] <med_> and timeout will allow a command to run for a fixed time
[19:21] <med_> blueingress, ^
[19:21] <genii> Guest44225: Apologies on lag, work is requiring me to leave the computer occasionally
[19:22] <blueingress> med_, need to give a BEEP .... when it is over
[19:22] <med_> ah a countdown timer. You could do that with sleep and Ctrl g
[19:24] <med_> apt-get install beep ; sleep 30; beep
[19:25] <med_> better, lmgtfy says: sleep N; echo -en "\007"
[19:25] <Guest44225> genii: np.  I hate it when I'm at work and I have to actually work  ;)
[19:25] <blueingress> med_, ah trying
[19:26] <Guest44225> genii: Thx. Do I need to restart the computer or not?
[19:26] <Guest44225> genii: and thx for the help
[19:26] <Guest44225> bye
[19:26] <genii> Guest44225: Just closing your browser and restarting it should be enough
[19:26] <voidvoid> its ok if i install ubuntu in a logical partition and a swap in an extended ?
[19:28] <blueingress> med_, beep .... no sound...
[19:28] <med_> better, lmgtfy says: sleep N; echo -en "\007"  <-- try that
[19:28] <med_> blueingress, ^
[19:28] <wheei> ohhhh, just tried to connect my laptop to my TV, tried it around and when I put my TV-screen over my normal screen my screen got fuckd up!   I unplugged the hdmi and restarted and it looks fine, but it turns weird as soon as I plug in the hdmi
[19:28] <wheei> how can I fix this ?
[19:29] <wheei> Can I reset the weird settings for multiple screens without plugging the hmdi back in?
[19:32] <falco73> ciao
[19:32] <falco73> !list
[19:33] <geirha> blueingress: check the terminal emulators settings on what it does for bell
[19:34] <geirha> printf '\a'  (or the less preferred echo -en '\007')  tells the terminal emulator to "sound the bell", but the terminal emulator might have that turned off, or set to blink (visually) instead
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Mattias: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes has a list of iso names and hashes, though you can also always just google an md5sum (for almost any popular file) and find pages with the filename, and if you don't get any results from google you can be pretty sure that your file is corrupt. That said, Debian is a great distribution, so good luck :)
[19:39] <wheei> How can I reset multiple screen settings?
[19:40] <HolaWorld> Hello. 'apt-get install virtualbox' wants to install xorg. Is there anyway to get it without xorg?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> HolaWorld: What is your end goal?
[19:41] <NikTh> HolaWorld: Why you don't want Xorg ? Is this a server machine without X ?
[19:42] <genii> HolaWorld: You could try with -o Install-Recommends=0
[19:44] <Quatroking> what's an easy git client for ubuntu?
[19:44] <hylian> how can i contact canonical by phone and speak to someone right now about a purchase i was ripped off on?
[19:45] <bubbasaures> hylian, This channel is not attached to canonical and is OS support.
[19:46] <genii> hylian: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/contact-us has a number at the bottom.
[19:46] <hylian> bubbasaures: ok
[19:46] <hylian> genii: thanks
[19:48] <lt_delorian> list channels
[19:49] <daftykins> !alis | lt_delorian
[19:49] <geirha> HolaWorld: Doesn't seem like it has a virtualbox package that won't install the qt interface I'm afraid :/
[19:50] <e\bola> hi
[19:50] <e\bola> i was trying to download a torrent from a magnet link with ctorrent
[19:50] <e\bola> i'm connected to my home ubuntu server via ssh
[19:50] <usr13> e\bola: All on one line please
[19:51] <e\bola> Sorry, I'm using irssi and it's difficult to read what I wrote before, btw: is there a way to start a torrent using a magnet link via console?
[19:52] <e\bola> I've tried with ctorrent and bittorrent,but I think the second one needs a gui interface to run (and i don't have X)
[19:53] <PermaNull> Not sure if this is an ubuntu specific issue or SuperMicro's IPMI/iKVM stuff, but I've got an issue where I can boot into the ubuntu server installer but then being told the cdrom isn't mounted... anyone ever experienced this before?
[19:55] <pbx> a small thing i miss from osx is that closing one window of an application brings the next one forward (if there is one).  any way to get that behavior under Unity?
[19:55] <guest-ifPAtc> hello
[20:01] <PermaNull> So has anyone here had issues installing ubuntu over Supermicro's iKVM crap?
[20:22] <nimbus_> getting a bug Caused by: net.sf.jasperreports.engine.util.JRFontNotFoundException: Font 'Arial' is not available to the JVM. See the Javadoc for more details. <------- seriously?
[20:22] <nimbus_> anyone seen this error?
[20:23] <MasterOfDisaster> nimbus_: yeah... so? which software? if the font name is hardcoded into a report, that happens.
[20:24] <OerHeks> arial is part of the msfonts that come with restricted-extras
[20:24] <nimbus_> it's with a program called fishbowl inventory
[20:25] <MasterOfDisaster> nimbus_: install the package OerHeks recommends and it should work alright. Time to file a bugreport upstream though :-)
[20:25] <nimbus_> Thank you
[20:27] <nimbus_> oerheks?
[20:27] <jhutchins> nimbus_: Sounds like typical java code quality.
[20:28] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is it documented somewhere whether 'apt-get download' checks signatures?
[20:28] <PermaNull> http://i.gyazo.com/496c5b292e527ff844c81a792ed64d4b.png
[20:28] <PermaNull> Anyone?
[20:29] <daftykins> PermaNull: your ISO corrupted?
[20:29] <PermaNull> daftykins, Two different ISOs
[20:29] <PermaNull> Same result.
[20:29] <daftykins> PermaNull: right, but have you MD5'd them?
[20:29] <daftykins> !md5
[20:30] <Ice_Strike> I want to access to NAS via NFS. There is no need to install  nfs-kernel-server?
[20:31] <Ice_Strike> I can just install  nfs-kernel-server?
[20:31] <Ice_Strike> I mean nfs-common
[20:31] <PermaNull> daftykins, http://i.gyazo.com/f5c295cd044d1b4dc54c38f59a1ebebe.png - they match up
[20:32] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ice_Strike, on the NAS or client?
[20:32] <Ice_Strike> client
[20:32] <PermaNull> And mounted using virtual storage... http://i.gyazo.com/1014870ced7d5c0450e6c933c29e0308.png
[20:32]  * sarsaeol waves at nimbus_ 
[20:32] <Ice_Strike> I want to mount to NFS
[20:33] <daftykins> PermaNull: ok, well i don't really recognise your KVM setup there as a legit one, why don't you run the disc checker off the boot menu?
[20:33] <jhutchins> Seems like xfce on 14.04 has "lightlocker" but no screensavers.
[20:33] <PermaNull> daftykins, It's SuperMicro's iKVM crap.
[20:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Ice_Strike, yeah
[20:34] <daftykins> PermaNull: yeah not exactly what we'd normally be dealing with in here.
[20:34] <nimbus_> yeah thanks I thought the msttype fonts would work
[20:34] <daftykins> PermaNull: and that's a win8 host?
[20:34] <daftykins> PermaNull: why not just use virtualbox? :P
[20:34] <sarsaeol> nimbus_: the relvant package is installed the jvm won't access it. filing bug report w/ them
[20:35] <PermaNull> daftykins, My system is windows 8 yes... I work in an industry/company that requires I run windows primarly due to our applications being developed for it.
[20:35] <daftykins> PermaNull: yeah i'm not bringing up issue with it, i'm simply identifying your environment to suggest better ways to run ubuntu
[20:36] <PermaNull> I'm wondering how you were able to identify it based on those screenshots.
[20:37] <daftykins> PermaNull: the window control design :)
[20:37] <nimbus_> thanks  Sarsaeol
[20:37] <daftykins> min, max, close
[20:37]  * sarsaeol hugs nimbus_ 
[20:37] <PermaNull> daftykins, Yeah but win7 looks similar I thought.. it's been awhile since I've ran 7.
[20:38] <daftykins> PermaNull: 7's are in boxes, if you get me :) anyway yeah, test the disc or run virtualbox instead \o/
[20:39] <PermaNull> What do you mean by or run VirtualBox instead?...
[20:39] <leoecco> Hello. An application of mine is crashing. The core dump is truncated, even though I'm using ulimit -f unlimited and ulimit -c unlimited. ANy ideas on how to solve it?
[20:39] <daftykins> PermaNull: instead of whatever KVM abortion that software is :)
[20:40] <PermaNull> Well, I don't think you understand what it is I'm trying to accomplish.
[20:40] <PermaNull> That KVM is part of a BMC for a supermicro system located in a DC.
[20:40] <daftykins> ok
[20:40] <PermaNull> I don't understand how VirtualBox would be feasilbe in that case.
[20:40] <daftykins> oh i get what you mean, it's just a viewing client to a host elsewhere
[20:41] <daftykins> well, contact the provider about why the OS doesn't work then i guess
[20:41] <daftykins> or try mini.iso
[20:42]  * nimbus_ waves to sarsaeol 
[20:43] <PermaNull> daftykins, IIRC the issue at hand is ubuntu isn't seeing the disc mounted even though I'm booting off it.
[20:43] <Killswitch> Hello guys, I am having an issue upgrading Ubuntu Server 14.04 LTS ImageMagick from 6.7.7 to 6.8.9 from source. I do everything like ImageMagick's site says, but get "Illegal Instruction"
[20:43] <Killswitch> I searched for the last few days and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to fix this
[20:43] <daftykins> PermaNull: did you run the disc check yet? i'm not really up for more responses until that's tested
[20:43] <ObrienDave> Killswitch, use the repo version
[20:44] <PermaNull> daftykins, give me a moment the thing is being picky.
[20:44] <daftykins> Killswitch: if you're lucky you might find someone willing to assist, but we typically don't support non packages
[20:44] <Killswitch> ObrienDave: the repo version is too old. We need the new version.
[20:44] <ObrienDave> Killswitch, glwt
[20:45] <Killswitch> So no possible help at all, like maybe figuring out what the heck "illegal instruction" even means and how to work around it?
[20:45] <PermaNull> Killswitch, Where are you encountering "Illegal instruction"
[20:45] <ObrienDave> illegal instruction is just what it sounds like. something compiled wrong
[20:46] <PermaNull> What are you executing/doing when that happens?
[20:46] <Killswitch> PermaNull: after going through the steps and running convert -version
[20:47] <PermaNull> Sounds like you missed something at compile time.
[20:47] <daftykins> !details | Killswitch
[20:48] <EOBeav> !details | ubottu
[20:48] <Killswitch> http://imagemagick.org/script/install-source.php#unix
[20:48] <Killswitch> Those are the steps I did.
[20:48] <ObrienDave> Killswitch, please don't tell us you tried to install the .rpm
[20:49] <Killswitch> Any information you guys need to help, let me know what and I'll go through them again to get it.
[20:49] <Killswitch> ObrienDave: no.
[20:50] <PermaNull> Killswitch, I'd have to agree with daftykins and say you need to contact imagemagick directly.
[20:50] <PermaNull> It appears to be an ongoing bug in their software.
[20:50] <PermaNull> http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24353
[20:51] <PermaNull> Probably no the same version but it's reported again and again per version it seems.
[20:51] <PermaNull> *not
[20:51] <Killswitch> Yeah the only thing I found even near what issue I am having said "install older version" then "this has been fixed in new version" but all versions are older than what we need. heh
[20:51] <daftykins> Killswitch: tried finding a PPA with newer builds?
[20:52] <daftykins> that's your other, still unsupported option
[20:52] <OerHeks> Killswitch, try this way configure ,make, make install http://www.sysads.co.uk/2014/06/install-imagemagick-ubuntu-14-04/
[20:52] <ObrienDave> Killswitch, where did you find "convert -version"?
[20:52] <Killswitch> What confuses me though, is I'm trying to do this in a vagrant virtual machine, and couldn't get it working, co-worker did it on his machine which is the exact same as mine, (same vagrant files) and it worked for him, so we tried to do it on our staging server the exact way he did it, no go.
[20:52] <Quatroking> there's no way to run windows apps on ubuntu, is there?
[20:53] <Quatroking> kinda missing the fancy microsoft minesweeper with its daily challenges and stuff
[20:53] <Killswitch> ObrienDave: that's their way of getting the version of the current imagemagick installed
[20:53] <ObrienDave> Quatroking, not natively, no
[20:53] <ObrienDave> !wine | Quatroking
[20:53] <Quatroking> wine runs win8 metro apps?
[20:54] <Killswitch> OerHeks: yeah I ran through that url once already too, only difference is I used a different url for the tar.gz file because that one 404's
[20:54] <ObrienDave> Killswitch, where did you find the instructions for adding "convert -version"?
[20:54] <Killswitch> Same outcome
[20:54] <Killswitch> ObrienDave: it's a standard command for ImageMagick.
[20:55] <Killswitch> convert -version
[20:55] <Killswitch> Version: ImageMagick 6.7.7-10 2014-03-06 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
[20:55] <Killswitch> Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
[20:55] <Killswitch> Features: OpenMP
[20:55] <daftykins> Quatroking: seriously doubt it.
[20:55] <PermaNull> ^ ObrienDave, "convert" is an imagemagick binary and -version is well, self explanatory.
[20:55] <ObrienDave> ok fine
[20:56] <PermaNull> Killswitch, my recommendation see if you can get the arguments that were used to compile the version you have working 6.7.7 and compile the new version with same args.
[20:57] <Killswitch> PermaNull: that's what comes from apt-get in stock Ubuntu 14.04
[20:57] <PermaNull> If that doesn't work submit a bug report on their forums.
[20:58] <Killswitch> PermaNull: how do I get those args?
[21:01] <PermaNull> Killswitch, not 100% sure it spits that out I was basing that on previous experience with other things.
[21:01] <PermaNull> Though this may be interesting to look at, https://gist.github.com/rodleviton/74e22e952bd6e7e5bee1
[21:01] <Killswitch> Yup did that too
[21:01] <PermaNull> http://douglascrp.blogspot.com/2014/06/how-to-install-imagemagick-from-sources.html
[21:02] <PermaNull> Removing the old version is probably a good idea as well.
[21:02] <Killswitch> Have not seen that one, will try it
[21:02] <Killswitch> Thanks PermaNull I really appreciate your help.
[21:02] <Hardtail> !tablet
[21:03] <quants> I need to re install Grub 2 and need some guidance please?
[21:03] <daftykins> quants: share more details
[21:04] <ObrienDave> like why do you need to reinstall grub2
[21:04] <ObrienDave> or, what makes you think you need to?
 i think that Grub is not loading some stuff and i want to reload it to see if that will help
[21:05] <daftykins> quants: why do you think that?
 one example is my battery has just stopped working over night, i was well looked after and im not convinced its a hardware issue
[21:06] <gianni2468> lista
[21:07] <daftykins> quants: how do you connect a battery to your bootloader?
[21:08] <gianni2468> !list
[21:08] <quants> well im  newb any someone on hear said it sound like a grup problem?
[21:08] <ObrienDave> daftykins, carefully? ;P
[21:08] <daftykins> quants: highly unlikely.
[21:08] <daftykins> ObrienDave: ;)
[21:09] <PermaNull> daftykins, now that I got this iKVM thing to stop being a PoS.
 will im a a loss, i find it hrd to believe that a battery can suddenly go
[21:09] <daftykins> quants: explain the battery tale, if you will
[21:10] <daftykins> PermaNull: ok, keep the language even in acronym form family friendly please
[21:10] <ObrienDave> quants, dual boot setup? can you check it in windows?
[21:10] <PermaNull> daftykins, alright will do.
 i only run ubuntu on this laptop.
[21:10] <daftykins> PermaNull: what was it then?
[21:10] <PermaNull> Basically thing is scanning the disc now for 'defects'.
[21:10] <PermaNull> Oh I haven't discovered the actual issue yet.
[21:11] <daftykins> ah ok
[21:11] <gianni2468> ciao
[21:11] <PermaNull> Just doing the integrity check, the reason I said that was it took me forever to even get it to boot the disc again.
[21:11] <ObrienDave> !it | gianni2468
[21:12] <PermaNull> daftykins, I guess it fails part way through.
[21:13] <daftykins> PermaNull: where is the ISO in relation to the host that's booting it?
[21:13] <PermaNull> It's stored on my machine, I connect over OpenVPN to another network then mount it from my machine using the iKVM java software.
[21:13] <rlinx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8481685/plain/
[21:13] <daftykins> quants: alright well try a live session of Ubuntu from flash drive, if the battery life is better, maybe it's your software, if not - it really is a dead battery.
[21:13] <PermaNull> I'm thinking about doing it from a share on the local network instead.
[21:14] <daftykins> PermaNull: *nod* makes sense to consider that a variable
[21:15] <daftykins> rlinx: sorry, your support query should be with them, not us
 can a battery just totally stop in an instant? even after working quite well?
[21:16] <daftykins> quants: so you got say an hours worth of life from it before, then suddenly 0?
[21:18] <tankerkiller125> OK so I have a rather odd request I guess? I was installing Ubuntu to an external hardrive and all went well however I now HAVE to have that external harddrive plugged in otherwise my laptop won't boot and it'll just show grubs recorver mode. How can I fix this so that I don't need to have the external hardrive plugged in but If I want to boot to it I can?
 yes to your last question.  take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2144463
[21:19] <daftykins> tankerkiller125: remove it, boot install media, chroot your local install and run update-grub
[21:19] <daftykins> tankerkiller125: rely upon your laptop's BIOS/boot menu to select a different device at boot time instead of having GRUB handle it, that was the mistake
 just switching to my other laptop so may be gon for 30 seconds
[21:21] <tankerkiller125> daftykins: Yes I'm aware of that but like I said  I have to boot into the external drive the laptop has windows installed. and for some reason grub got installed in the laptops harddrive
[21:21] <daftykins> oh it's Windows.
[21:21] <tankerkiller125> daftykins: Yeah sorry I should have clearified
[21:21] <daftykins> tankerkiller125: yeah, fix Windows first then
[21:22] <tankerkiller125> daftykins: Any ideas on how todo that?
[21:22] <daftykins> tankerkiller125: this is not windows support
[21:22] <Quantumpants> daftykins im back
[21:22] <tankerkiller125> daftykins: alright then I guess I'll be back when I fix windows
[21:24] <daftykins> Quantumpants: ok, i'm catching up now by reading the thread
[21:26] <daftykins> Quantumpants: you're on your husbands laptop now, presumably?
[21:27] <daftykins> Quantumpants: or was that forum thread not you?
 no they are both mine and thats not my post, im a guy lol
[21:28] <ObrienDave> rofl
[21:28] <daftykins> Quantumpants: whoops :D
[21:28] <daftykins> Quantumpants: ok, so presumably you've tried Windows and you've tried post #7's approach? Which i was close to suggesting myself
 i wont tell my wife lol, so you see that just more that tells me its not a dead battery
[21:29] <daftykins> Quantumpants: sorry that sentence doesn't make sense to me
[21:30] <daftykins> ah i kind of get it now
[21:30] <rlinx> can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8481685/plain/
[21:30] <daftykins> Quantumpants: until you do post 7 and try a live session i don't really see any good course of action, but GRUB is definitely unlikely
[21:30] <daftykins> rlinx: i told you already you should contact the person that made the module, it is not an ubuntu support issue
 i didnt make sense to me either sorry.  i was saying that looking at that thread makes me thing that somehow my battery is fine.
[21:31] <ObrienDave> Quantumpants, can you swap batteries to the other laptop?
[21:32] <daftykins> i doubt they're the same in this case
 sadly no
[21:32] <daftykins> Quantumpants: lol, use the nickname of the person that's talking to you, not me every time
[21:33] <ObrienDave> daftykins, but you're so good at helping :))
[21:33] <daftykins> :(
  got you sorry, death by cut and paste
[21:34] <ObrienDave> maybe he's telling me to butt out ;P
[21:34] <daftykins> not at all!
[21:34] <ObrienDave> jk, jk
[21:35] <imbezol> he just likes misquoting daftykins
 <daftykins> sorry you guys have to put up with such a newb
[21:35] <ObrienDave> i guess :)
[21:36] <ObrienDave> Quantumpants, not to worry, we were all there at one time :)
[21:37] <ObrienDave> grrrr, my ISP is horrible
 <daftykins> im thinking i may just go any buy a new battery :(
[21:37] <ObrienDave> Quantumpants, no other OS on that machine?
 no just 14.04.1 lts 64bit
[21:38] <ObrienDave> k, it's possible the charging system went bonkers
[21:38] <daftykins> Quantumpants: there used to be a battery information page which would show design capacity vs. actual capacity
 im confused
[21:41] <nuggets> hello
[21:41] <daftykins> hi
[21:42] <nuggets> anyone want to talk? (360)342-0308
[21:42] <daftykins> no thanks, please leave now
[21:42] <nuggets> ok bye bye!
[21:42] <puish> lol
 <ObrienDave> thank you for your help guys catch you guys around. :)
[21:43] <tigerfanboi> short but sweet
[21:43] <ObrienDave> Quantumpants, ok, good luck
[21:45] <itisit> how to print one particular column from stdout? for example: netstat -an | print $3
[21:45] <daftykins> itisit: bash channel is more relevant
[21:46] <itisit> daftykins: got it. thanks
[21:46] <samthewildone> So have a situation at bay, getting this missing gtk module on various applications. Even when building and running a build of a application I get the error. This is the error > "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module""
[21:47] <PermaNull> daftykins, think I finally got this thing to mount the disk from a samba share on a local ubuntu box.
[21:48] <daftykins> :)
[21:49] <labru01> ñ
[21:55] <z1haze> does anyone know what could cause this error? http://paste.debian.net/124237/ i just got a new vps today, and im trying to set it up.. havnet done anything with it and its just giving me error after error
[21:55] <Loshki> samthewildone: I see google hits for canberra-gtk-module that look relevant...
[21:55] <daftykins> z1haze: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[21:56] <daftykins> z1haze: yep that's debian, no support here sorry.
[21:56] <Loshki> samthewildone: e.g. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/gtk-message-failed-to-load-module-canberra-gtk-module-936168/
[21:56] <z1haze> lol wtf ubuntu is debian
[21:56] <daftykins> z1haze: rules are rules, go ask the debian guys, or better yet contact your VPS provider for support, since you know, you pay them for a service.
[21:58] <samthewildone> Loshki, problem is most of those posts are old.
[21:59] <Loshki> samthewildone: so none of them work?
[22:00] <OerHeks> samthewildone, running 64 bit and have libcanberra-gtk-module installed? http://askubuntu.com/questions/342202/failed-to-load-module-canberra-gtk-module-but-already-installed >> maybe you need the :i386 module
[22:06] <PermaNull> daftykins, so far good... integrity test success.
[22:06] <daftykins> \o/
[22:08] <PermaNull> Looks like it's operational now... guess the issue was just the slow speed between me and the server over KVM.
[22:08] <Loshki> zlhaze: or just admit you made a mistake and were using ubuntu all along (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
[22:10] <POGtastic> hi guys, anyone know something about mounting extra hard drives?
[22:11] <POGtastic> i have an SSD and a regular hard drive, and i have ubuntu installed on the SSD. unfortunately, i'm having trouble getting the hard drive to mount automatically
[22:11] <travnewmatic> fstab is your friend!
[22:12] <POGtastic> yeah, i know it's fstab, but unfortunately when i try to make it, it gives me an error on startup
[22:12] <travnewmatic> POGtastic, look for articles relating to fstab
[22:12] <travnewmatic> hmm
[22:12] <travnewmatic> did you make a folder for it to mount to?
[22:12] <POGtastic> i also tried using ubuntu's Disks utility to automatically create the  fstab entry
[22:12] <travnewmatic> its easy enough to edit automatically
[22:12] <travnewmatic> sorry
[22:12] <travnewmatic> manually
[22:13] <POGtastic> yep, there's a folder in /mnt/ for it to go
[22:13] <travnewmatic> alright
[22:13] <travnewmatic> can you see what the error is when you restart?
[22:13] <daftykins> POGtastic: use paste.ubuntu.com to show us what your attempted fstab mount looks like
[22:13] <POGtastic> ok, i'll be right back
[22:13] <Jordan_U> POGtastic: Wait.
[22:13] <POGtastic> oop
[22:14] <Jordan_U> POGtastic: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of "sudo mount -a" first, which will hopefully give us all we need.
[22:14] <daftykins> yeah, what i said.
[22:14] <SAM_theman> samthewildone, leave
[22:15] <SAM_theman> for some reason xchat crashed
[22:15] <SAM_theman> I was talking to a person about gtk-message:failed
[22:16] <POGtastic> ok here's my pastebin of fstab: http://pastebin.com/Ay1tdAvM
[22:16] <POGtastic> the last one is my HDD
[22:16] <daftykins> SAM_theman: just like every other time we do NOT want to hear about your disconnections and following clone management, this is NOT what this channel is for
[22:17] <POGtastic> if it helps, my UUID is cdc5218d-fc7f-4832-89fa-cd1f7f604989. i'm not quite sure what that is, though.
[22:17] <POGtastic> of the hard drive*
[22:17] <daftykins> POGtastic: it's a unique identifier for a given drive or partition
[22:17] <SAM_theman> Yeah anyway  I needed some help with the gtk-message i've been getting, I was talking to someone here.
[22:18] <daftykins> POGtastic: what file system does it use?
[22:18] <POGtastic> ext4
[22:18] <POGtastic> if i have to reformat it, it's going to take a while to copy it all to a USB hard drive... i have a few hundred gigs of stuff on it :(
[22:18] <POGtastic> but i will if i have to.
[22:19] <daftykins> POGtastic: ok comment that one out by putting a # in front for now, then make a new line with "UUID=cdc5218d-fc7f-4832-89fa-cd1f7f604989  ext4  /mnt/HDD auto defaults  0  0"
[22:20] <POGtastic> ok, lemme restart and i'll come right back.
[22:20] <daftykins> POGtastic: no
[22:20] <POGtastic> ok
[22:20] <daftykins> POGtastic: you don't need to restart in Linux land :P
[22:20] <daftykins> POGtastic: once the edit is complete, run "sudo mount -a"
[22:20] <clepto> so had to switch routers and now my samba shares arent showing up in network discovery. any ideas on how i should go about fixing this via command line?
[22:20] <daftykins> POGtastic: if all goes well, you won't see any output
[22:21] <largefarva68> opinion question: firefox or chrome
[22:21] <POGtastic> unfortunately, it's giving me the following message: [mntent]: line 19 in /etc/fstab is bad
[22:22] <clepto> firefox
[22:22] <daftykins> POGtastic: 'mntent' ?
[22:22] <POGtastic> yeah, it has that in brackets right before the message
[22:23] <daftykins> just checking it wasn't a typo
[22:23] <daftykins> POGtastic: any clues in "dmesg | tail" ?
[22:23] <CodeVent> Good afternoon all. I am Just lost on what to do atm. Anyone available to help me out?
[22:23] <daftykins> POGtastic: repaste the file to show what it looks like now, please
[22:23] <daftykins> CodeVent: you have to actually ask a support question before anyone knows how to assist
[22:24] <POGtastic> pastebin of new fstab: http://pastebin.com/r0jnBE7a
[22:24] <daftykins> POGtastic: take out the 'auto', i think i messed up there
[22:25] <Ajkthx> i dont currently have ubuntu, but how easy is it to get steam (and its games) up and running on ubuntu
[22:25] <daftykins> POGtastic: /mnt/HDD exists yes? the folder
[22:25] <POGtastic> yes it does
[22:25] <Ajkthx> as well as drivers for your video card
[22:25] <CodeVent> I am running 14.04 server 5 HDDs in RAID 0, no OS drive. when I boot up I get this error Incrimentally starting RAID arrays  mdadm: CREATE user root not found  mdadm: CREATE group disk not found  Incrementally started RAID arrays
[22:25] <daftykins> Ajkthx: this a desktop pC?
[22:25] <Ajkthx> yes
[22:26] <POGtastic> it's now returning the following error: mount: mount point ext4 does not exist
[22:26] <POGtastic> should i have the mount point before ext4?
[22:26] <daftykins> POGtastic: yeah, ugh sorry - funky eyes and brain this evening
[22:26] <daftykins> we're getting there though!
[22:27] <POGtastic> oh no problem, i'm so glad you guys are helping haha
[22:27] <daftykins> Ajkthx: and you're on Windows now?
[22:27] <Ajkthx> yes.
[22:27] <daftykins> Ajkthx: and why do you want to change?
[22:27] <POGtastic> success! thank you so much!
[22:27] <daftykins> POGtastic: no worries, just test you can actually read and write onto it first though
[22:27] <Ajkthx> for the experience. for something new.
[22:28] <POGtastic> yep, it works just fine. excellent
[22:28] <POGtastic> i've been manually mounting it in the file manager for a while now.
[22:28] <POGtastic> if i'd known that this chat existed, i would've asked for help a long time ago haha
[22:29] <daftykins> Ajkthx: ok, i think #ubuntu-steam exists.
[22:29] <daftykins> Ajkthx: it's pretty easy though, you're going to need to learn a very different way about going about things though. Windows users start by thinking they'll install the OS then visit their graphics card site and download drivers - that's totally wrong in Linux land
[22:29] <POGtastic> i'm outta here. have a good one. thanks again dafty, trav, and jordan
[22:29] <daftykins> POGtastic: take care now o/
[22:30] <Ajkthx> i remember there being a pretty easy way to install drivers like that
[22:30] <Ajkthx> almost like an app store
[22:31] <daftykins> Ajkthx: indeedy
[22:31] <Ajkthx> it'd be nice if it fit on a cd =/
[22:31] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone can help me figure out why my ubuntu 12.04 does not have kms as well as 14.04
[22:31] <Dylan> I just upgraded to 14.04. When I load an audio disc into my drive, I get the following message: "unable to mount audio disk Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" and the audio disc cannot be played. Any idea how to fix this?
[22:31] <ponyofdeath> same video i915
[22:31] <ponyofdeath> same trusty 3.13 kernel
[22:32] <ponyofdeath> one has smooth scrolling in tty1 and one is super slow
[22:33] <CodeVent> I am running 14.04 server 5 HDDs in RAID 0. when I boot up I get this error Incrimentally starting RAID arrays  mdadm: CREATE user root not found  mdadm: CREATE group disk not found  Incrementally started RAID arrays. I have booted up on a live Debian and found that my partition table is missing? I tried to install-grub but it advises me heavily not to as there is no table. Can anyone help?
[22:33] <stan_man_can> I was running aptitude safe-upgrade and some packages were requesting user input (do I want to replace the grub menu or whatever) and my network disconnected. Now when I ssh back in it's not letting me do another update "Could not get lokck /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open"
[22:34] <Ajkthx> are a vast majority of nvidia drivers available for ubuntu?
[22:34] <SpartanWarrior> Hello there, I want to update a saucy server but apt-get update gives me 403 errors when fetching sources and packages, what should I do? :(
[22:35] <reisio> Ajkthx: all that are are
[22:35] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: share the output of "sudo apt-get update" to start with
[22:35] <SpartanWarrior> k
[22:35] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: via a paste site such as paste.ubuntu.com of course
[22:36] <SpartanWarrior> this is my output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8482075/
[22:37] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: yeah so by update you really mean upgrade to trusty, yes?
[22:37] <Ajkthx> so i want to transition from windows to ubuntu. what would your guys' words of wisdom be for this
[22:37] <SpartanWarrior> indeed, i know saucy is quite outdated
[22:37] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: the repos have been renamed now since saucy is EOL, just run "do-release-upgrade" and you should be good to go, but have backups of coure
[22:37] <daftykins> *course
[22:38] <SpartanWarrior> I tried that but: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8482085/
[22:39] <SpartanWarrior> (yes i'm connected to the internet)
[22:40] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: headless server yeah?
[22:40] <stan_man_can> Hi all, I was SSH'ed into my VPS and running a aptitude safe-upgrade, it was part way through and requesting user input when my internet connection dropped. Now that I'm SSH'ed back into the server, how do I resume where I left off? I can't do aptitude safe-upgrade again as I'm getting errors  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e7da5dd9fa28ef2f75de
[22:40] <daftykins> aptitude isn't standard on ubuntu, apt-get is :)
[22:40] <SpartanWarrior> daftykins: yup, i'm sshing
[22:41] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: you can try this, though i wouldn't normally consider is the best approach - "do-release-upgrade -d"
[22:41] <daftykins> !dpkglock | stan_man_can
[22:41] <ging> is there an apt-get command which will make it automatically downgrade packages to meet dependancies ?
[22:42] <daftykins> downgrade is not supported
[22:42] <ging> but i want it to!
[22:42] <SpartanWarrior> daftykins, the same output :(
[22:42] <SpartanWarrior> 'm about to cry
[22:43] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: with sudo too?
[22:43] <SpartanWarrior>  both cases: user and sudo
[22:43] <daftykins> blargh.
[22:44] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: you could be bold and backup your sources.list, then manually replace saucy with trusty and update.
[22:44] <daftykins> SpartanWarrior: just a warning - you don't use any PPAs do you?
[22:44] <SpartanWarrior> not a single one, it's a file/webserver
[22:45] <daftykins> ah-har
[22:45] <stan_man_can> daftykins: Partially worked, now I'm seeing this debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:46] <CodeVent> well I guess no one can help.
[22:46] <daftykins> CodeVent: try #ubuntu-server
[22:51] <Loshki> stan_man_can: I would say reboot, but half way through an upgrade means it may not reboot properly or at all. At this point, I would say bite the bullet, make any backups you need, and do a from-scratch install.
[22:53] <mdev> how do I edit the service script, anyone know what the file is?
[22:53] <mdev> it's buggy for sudo service --status-all
[22:53] <mdev> returns ? on lot of running processes, I found patch online
[22:53] <mdev> but trying to find the file to edit
[22:54] <Loshki> mdev: /usr/bin/service ?
[22:54] <compdoc> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Netflix-Working-on-Ubuntu-Touch-Native-App-460846.shtml
[22:54] <mdev> thanks
[22:56] <clepto> i had samba set up and running previously and my router died. so i replaced it and now my ubuntu machine is not showing up in network discovery. i can connect to it via SSH using the same ip address it had before internally as that didnt change but its not showing up in networked computers list from my windows boxes. anyone able to help me figure out this issue?
[22:57] <Davy_Crockett> Hello peeps Oi!
[22:57] <Loshki> clepto: is smbd running? Try sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[22:58] <clepto> loshki: service smbd status
[22:58] <clepto>  smbd start/running, process 3529
[22:58] <Loshki> clepto: restart it...
[22:59] <clepto> loshki: ive restarted it, reinstalled it, and reconfigured and restarted it about 5 times now. ive gone through 3 different howto guides and its still not working. my best guess is somehow network discovery got messed up on the ubuntu network config because of the new router/network
[23:01] <Loshki> clepto: I've always found smbd to be a bit unreliable. And at least once I recall having to download the latest source and compile/run it because the regular one was buggy. The only thing that changed was the router?
[23:02] <tripelb> I eant t erase my entire ubuntu partition and remove the grub so it just boots to win 8 again. How do I do this? Thanks.
[23:02] <tripelb> I want to erase "
[23:02] <clepto> loshki: yep, machine has the same internal ip address it had before. i replaced one DD-WRT router with another one.
[23:04] <clepto> loshki: whats interesting is i can see my other Ubuntu machine when i do smbtree but it isnt showing my windows boxes....
[23:05] <Loshki> clepto: same router config? access lists preventing smb packets? Got a laptop handy? Use it to sniff the network & see...
[23:06] <clepto> loshki: i can access my samba shares between my two linux boxes just fine. the communicate with each other but not windows... its friggen odd
[23:07] <clepto> loshki: and my windows boxes see each other as well but dont see the linux boxes
[23:07] <emanuele> ciao
[23:22] <jrunning> is there a way to enable wake from keyboard in ubuntu 14.04, without naming specific usb device numbers?
[23:24] <reisio> jrunning: yeah I think the ordinary Linux usb wake config option does that
[23:24] <Talidan> hey guys, so i can't seem to boot into Ubuntu.  My bootloader is seemingly screwed up
[23:24] <Talidan> I just booted into my hosts "rescue mode"
[23:24] <Talidan> and have installed grub onto all partitiopns of my unraided drive
[23:25] <Talidan> sda, sda2, sda3
[23:25] <Talidan> I haven't installed onto sdb becauase i got a warning not to
[23:26] <ahklerner> i am using pidgin on xubuntu, with ssl login. i have 4 or 5 rooms set to autoconnect. when i open pidgin it successfully connects, then opens some of the rooms and then disconnects 'server closed the connection'. if i do reconnect it works.......any ideas ?
[23:26] <Talidan> but it doesnt seem to bootinto ubuntu
[23:26] <ahklerner> works = doesnt disconnect me
[23:30] <daftykins> ahklerner: ask #freenode ? :)
[23:30] <ahklerner> i have noone is answering,
[23:30] <ahklerner> so i came here
[23:30] <ahklerner> thought just maybe
[23:30] <daftykins> ok, not our problem.
[23:31] <ahklerner> yeah i thought maybe someone had seen the issue before
[23:32] <Chanito> ahklerner, Maybe the ssl is set to disconnect after some idle time
[23:33] <daftykins> ahklerner: best thought, change client.
[23:33] <Chanito> ahklerner, nvm i was thinking of something else
[23:34] <ahklerner> i am just used to pidgin been using it for years
[23:41] <kenny__> anyone know how to get a list of all keyboard input layouts available? Is there a file?
[23:41] <kenny__> There is 'languagelist' but I think that is for 'locale' only.
[23:48] <rypervenche> kenny__: Well, there are the keymaps that are in /usr/share/keymaps, there are also IMEs out there that you can use to provide other languages' input.
[23:48] <rypervenche> kenny__: What language(s) are you looking for?
[23:49] <kenny__> I'm just looking to create an array of langauges available for keyboard input in Ubuntu.
[23:50] <kenny__> looks like this might be it.  man xkeyboard-config
[23:52] <rypervenche> Ooo, that looks nice.
[23:53] <jux1e> hello