[06:20] <soee> good morning
[06:29] <soee> i did again reboot etc. but the issue with  this strange sound stays + notofication icon in systray always "loading"
[06:30] <soee> *plasma 5.1 b
[07:12] <apachelogger> soee: did you update again?
[07:18] <valorie> ah, that's what I need to do
[07:18] <valorie> update the test lappy
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer, Riddell: so who is going to fix the maintainers?
[07:21] <valorie> while watching the doctor
[07:21] <lordievader> valorie: The new season?
[07:21] <valorie> no, watching old ones
[07:21] <valorie> "the doctor dances"
[07:23] <apachelogger> pft
[07:23] <apachelogger> there is only one way to dance
[07:24] <apachelogger> and that is like a drunk giraffe
[07:24] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2CMZFIa4sU
[07:25] <valorie> are you my mummy?
[07:25] <valorie> soooo creepy
[07:26] <lordievader> Ah that one. That one is lovely ;)
[07:28] <valorie> indeed
[07:31] <soee> apachelogger: i did this moring all update sthat were available
[07:31] <apachelogger> fun
[07:31] <apachelogger> a spinning notification icon at some point meant that you have pending kio jobs
[07:31] <soee> hmm
[07:32] <apachelogger> question is how one can have kio jobs that never go away and that right after login ^^
[07:40] <valorie> updates went great - this is from the plasma 5 laptop
[07:40] <valorie> tsdgeos: sorry about the branding mistake yesterday
[07:40] <valorie> kf5 konvi, for sure
[07:43] <valorie> anything in particular that needs checking?
[07:47] <soee> valorie: if you open extended view of systray
[07:47] <soee> do you have any strange sound ? :)
[07:48] <valorie> by extended view, do you mean edit systray?
[07:49] <valorie> interesting, I can't edit the systray
[07:49] <valorie> the stacked lines do nothing today
[07:50] <valorie> except change from gray to black on hover
[07:50] <valorie> no tooltips either
[07:50] <valorie> kmenu doesn't work
[07:50] <valorie> the little blue selection line goes over it, but that's it
[07:51] <valorie> also, I installed konversation, but it is the same version I have on my 14.04 laptop
[07:52] <valorie> and the help menu says I'm using Platform version 4.14.1
[07:53] <valorie> well, I'll send this to the list, or at least to myself, so I can check it in my neon5 session
[07:55] <apachelogger> konversation has not been released.
[07:55] <valorie> I thought you had it packaged for plasma 5?
[07:55] <apachelogger> no
[07:55] <apachelogger> I had it packaged for neon
[07:56] <valorie> hmmm, it is the same in neon5..... but you mean old neon
[07:56] <valorie> got it
[07:56] <apachelogger> no
[07:56] <apachelogger> in neon you need to install a spearate package
[07:56] <valorie> odd that the KDE versioning is wrong though
[07:56] <valorie> oh?
[07:57] <apachelogger> communities do not get versioned :P
[07:57] <valorie> ah
[07:57] <valorie> so I could install it in neon5?
[07:57] <valorie> I would love that
[07:57] <apachelogger> exactly the same way you installed it before
[07:57] <apachelogger> why do you want konversation frameworks anyway
[07:58] <valorie> but I did reinstall it in neon5
[07:58] <valorie> no differences
[07:58] <apachelogger> I do not follow
[07:58] <valorie> except that it picked up none of my setup
[07:58] <apachelogger> valorie: are you on utopic or on trusty?
[07:58] <valorie> right now, typing from the utopic + Plasma 5 laptop
[07:59] <apachelogger> and you are instaling project-neon5-konversation on trusty?
[07:59] <valorie> the regular laptop is trusty with a neon5 session
[07:59] <valorie> I didn't try that
 but I did reinstall it in neon5
[07:59] <apachelogger> what did you do there then?
[07:59] <valorie> just installed konversation
 in neon you need to install a spearate package
[08:00] <valorie> cool
[08:00] <valorie> I'll do that as soon as I update that computer and restart to the neon5 session
[08:09] <Riddell> hola
[08:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: why do you need maintainers changed? I'm happy to just override them
[08:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: how do you override them?
[08:12] <Riddell> apachelogger: kubuntu-automation/lintian-ignore.json
[08:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: also, there was this policy or another that ubuntu versions need an ubuntu maintainer
[08:12] <apachelogger> also, lintian-ignore.json will not make my builds work
[08:13] <apachelogger> so if I do debuild outside automation lintian will still throw up in my face
[08:18] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't recall that policy, one of the purposes of ubuntu was to do away with debian style maintainers
[08:18] <Riddell> best fix your scripts?
[08:19] <apachelogger> it's not about scripts, it's about the fact that a) debian is not maintaining those specific packages b) as a developer I cannot ever produce a lintian clean package right now because of the shit override in automation
[08:20] <Riddell> I don't understand a) so what and b) so what ?
[08:20] <Riddell> lintian is imperfect, you're never going to get it clean, that's why we have the override file
[08:21] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField
[08:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: no we don't
[08:21] <apachelogger> or ratehr
[08:21] <apachelogger> if we do then we might as well like not run lintian
[08:22] <apachelogger> the global override should override things that are inherit to automation (which equals none)
[08:22] <apachelogger> kci has 0 overrides and gets lintian clean builds
[08:23] <apachelogger> so, considering I can do it continiously I am reasonable certain we can make it happen for releases
[08:23] <apachelogger> the piling up of shit workarounds pisses me off so epically
[08:27] <Riddell> I disagree it's a problem, those a are unused fields in ubuntu, let debian do whatever they want with them
[08:28] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField
[08:29] <apachelogger> Riddell: the solution then is to get lintian fixed, isn't it?
[08:29] <valorie> wow, I like mkusb for making usb keys
[08:29] <Riddell> shrug, go ahead
[08:30] <valorie> just made the two betas
[08:30] <valorie> now to test some stuff in the neon5 session
[08:31] <soee_> valorie: can you alo tets one more thing:
[08:31] <soee_> in plasma 5.1beta try to logout and login again
[08:31] <soee_> for me after logout/login plasmashell did not start
[08:32] <Riddell> erk
[08:32] <Riddell> soee_: do you have plasma-desktop installed?
[08:32] <soee_> Riddell: well it should be i upgraded form plasma 5.0.2
[08:33] <soee_> there was though problem with ksysguarg package only, that i need to use force overwrite
[08:33] <Riddell> what problem?
[08:33] <soee_> but i imformed about it sgclark yesterday
[08:35] <soee_> Riddell: but the plasma start problem happend for me from time to time after some updates
[08:35] <soee_> *plasmashell
[08:36] <soee_> well meybe not whole plasmashell, im not sure
[08:36] <soee_> i can type ALT+f2 and run yakuake from krunner that from yakuake start plasmashell
[08:36] <soee_> *than
[08:37] <soee_> so my panels etc are loaded
[08:38] <Riddell> hum, well I'll try it shortly
[08:38] <Riddell> soee_: where are you installing it from?
[08:39] <soee_> beta ? from next-staging
[08:39] <sgclark> morning
[08:40] <soee_> hiho sgclark
[08:41] <Riddell> hola sgclark 
[08:41] <valorie> I had to install plasma-desktop separately, which should not be
[08:42] <valorie> that was part of the whole repair process I reported, i thought
[08:43] <valorie> also sni-qt
[08:43] <valorie> again, that should have been automatically installed
[08:44] <valorie> plasma-workspace, and plasma-desktop
[08:54] <apachelogger> valorie: sudo apt install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop
[08:55] <valorie> that didn't do the job
[08:55] <valorie> yes, I did that
[08:55] <valorie> I followed the instructions
[08:55] <valorie> but it was broken......
[08:55] <apachelogger> ?
[08:55] <valorie> I fixed it be doing it all again, after restarting
[08:55] <apachelogger> actually sni-qt probably wouldn't be pulled in
[08:55] <valorie> AND adding those files as well
[08:56] <apachelogger> becuase that would then pull in qt4
[08:56] <apachelogger> then again we do that anyway
[08:56] <valorie> without sni-qt, the icons were partly broken
[08:56] <valorie> that helped
[08:56] <apachelogger> I'll argue that they are broken upstream :P
[08:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^ sni-qt needs to get on the seed
[08:57] <valorie> could be, but kubuntu-plasma5-desktop did not install plasma-workspace & plasma-desktop
[08:58] <valorie> in fact, plasma-desktop was held back until I went through the process again, and installed them both by name
[08:58] <sgclark> that doesn't sound good
[08:58] <Riddell> sni-qt isn't on the kubuntu or the kubuntu-plasma5 seeds
[08:58] <apachelogger> that seems improbable considering kubuntu-plasma5-desktop *depends* plasma-desktop
[08:58] <valorie> well, it's fixed, but the packaging might be faulty
[08:59] <apachelogger> Riddell: it needs to be 
[08:59] <apachelogger> as per upstream instructions WRT systray compatibility
[08:59] <valorie> I was rather disbelieving, however, desperate to fix it, and it was broken, so why not try?
[09:00] <apachelogger> there is *no* way to install kubuntu-plasma5-desktop without having plasma-desktop installed
[09:00] <Riddell> apachelogger: but plasma4 doesn't need it?
[09:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: correct
[09:01] <valorie> apachelogger: I think what happened is that something was broken and things were reported to be installed, but were not
[09:02] <valorie> in fact it was in a loop, asking me to install the same stuff over and over again
[09:02] <valorie> remember, this was the upgrade from the 14.10 beta image
[09:02] <apachelogger> I couldn't possibly say without /var/log/apt/* and /var/log/dpkg*
[09:02] <Riddell> apachelogger: maybe plasma-desktop should depend on it?
[09:02] <valorie> not a direct install 
[09:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: on sni-qt?
[09:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: yeah
[09:03] <apachelogger> I pondered on that a while back... the relationship would be incorrect and link plasma5 to qt4
[09:03] <apachelogger> IMO qt4 itself should recommend sni-qt
[09:04] <apachelogger> if you have no qt4 installed sni-qt makes no sense, if you have qt4 installed and are using plasma5|unity it makes sense to have sni-qt installed as well though
[09:04] <apachelogger> it's the kind of relationship that is terrible to express in packaging
[09:07] <Riddell> seed it is then
[09:23] <Antisound> hi guys!
[09:23] <Antisound> how is it going 2day?
[09:23] <Antisound> Riddell: how about Plasma 5.1 ;-)
[09:26] <Riddell> Antisound: should be about rest to test for the brave
[09:28] <Antisound> Riddell: wtf... that sentence makes no sence for me ;-)
[09:28] <Antisound> sorry
[09:28] <sgclark> I think he means about ready..
[09:28] <Antisound> okay
[09:28] <sgclark> Riddell: those new packages, they in git?
[09:29] <Riddell> sgclark: kdeplasma-addons as a tar
[09:29] <Riddell> on depot or download.kde.org
[09:30]  * Antisound is pretty excited for Plasma Beta
[09:30] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, putting my name down on that then. After these copyright fixes
[09:30] <Antisound> Riddell sgclark thanks for your hard work! ;-)
[09:30] <Riddell> sgclark: kde-gtk-config is at https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/kde-gtk-config and has no tar because it was moved to workspace after I made the beta
[09:31] <sgclark> ok
[09:31] <Riddell> sgclark: kde-gtk-config will have packaging for the kde4 version that can be updated or cherry picked for the kf5 version
[09:31] <sgclark> noted
[09:33] <sgclark> argh, debian policy has spaces, and yet lintian still screams. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8484689/
[09:34] <Riddell> sgclark: that seems fine to me, what's lintian saying?
[09:34] <sgclark> Riddell: have you already made up a license when they have the option of v3?
[09:34] <sgclark> spaces
[09:35] <Riddell> sgclark: I don't understand "have you already made up a license..."
[09:36] <Riddell> sgclark: but you're allowed to have " or " between licences, arg!
[09:36] <sgclark> like the eV ones
[09:36] <Riddell> if it's "GPL 2 or 3 or later as approved by e.v." I use GPL-KDEeV
[09:37] <Riddell> treating it as 1 licence option in the same way as "gpl 2 or later" is treated as GPL-2+
[09:40] <Riddell> sgclark: I worked out a patch for the issue where oxygen installed unused files
[09:40] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: re maintainers, I guess I can do it today
[09:40] <Riddell> adding
[09:41] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: sune said it'd be ok to keep the maintainer as it is in debian, so we might want to look into making lintian not go bonkers over that instead
[09:42]  * Antisound is upgrading to Plasma 5.0.95
[09:42] <Riddell> Antisound: using kubuntu-ppa/next-staging ?
[09:42] <Antisound> jop
[09:42] <Antisound> not good? 
[09:43] <Riddell> Antisound: good, look us know how it goes, but don't publicise that ppa as it is only for building/initial verification
[09:43] <Antisound> i know ;-)
[09:43] <Antisound> i'm going to tell you how it is working
[09:43] <apachelogger> also remove the ppa once done with testing
[09:43] <Antisound> ok
[09:49] <Antisound> so, ... got to reboot... ttyl ;-) going to update you soon!
[09:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: quite offtopic, but, is there some online store or other method I could use to purchase kilts?
[09:51] <Riddell> Tm_T: um, probably lots, but they're expensive things to buy generally
[09:52] <Riddell> I've used these people http://www.hector-russell.com/
[09:53] <Tm_T> Riddell: I was wondering if I could get atleast one before visiting England
[09:54] <Riddell> you'll struggle to find one in England for sure
[09:55] <Tm_T> yeah, same here in Finland, shorter "painter's skirt" is available easily, but it's all-white
[09:55] <Tm_T> I'm not into nurse look
[09:56] <valorie> there are utilikilts which aren't expensive
[09:56] <valorie> because they aren't wool
[09:57] <valorie> I've even seen camo utilikilts
[09:57] <Riddell> they're pretty cool
[09:58] <valorie> literally
[09:58] <valorie> :-)
[09:58] <valorie> rather popular up here in the Seattle area
[09:58] <Riddell> ah nice this got updated http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/flavours
[10:00] <valorie> excellent, at least one thing accomplished....
[10:01] <valorie> oh good lord, it's 3am
[10:01] <valorie> at least I confirmed a plasma 5 bug
[10:02] <valorie> apachelogger: I was unable to install or run project-neon5-konversation
[10:02] <valorie> "already newest version"
[10:02] <valorie> but no way to run it
[10:15] <Riddell> 5.1 beta installed and running fine for me, but no wallpaper!
[10:17] <Riddell> I can select it fine
[10:19] <Riddell> but no return of Antisound, should we be worried?
[10:19] <Riddell> sgclark: have you tried it out?
[10:20] <sgclark> not yet. will here in a sec
[10:20] <soee_> Antisound did not returned
[10:20] <sgclark> packaging in plasma5 and don't want a broken system lol
[10:20] <soee_> ah you wrote it already
[10:20] <Riddell> very sensible :)
[10:39] <sgclark> Riddell: ok so kdeplasma-addons also has a kde4 version, do I rename these packages or ?
[10:42] <Riddell> sgclark: nah, this is a new version
[10:43] <Riddell> sgclark: so I think use the existing packaging as a starting point
[10:44] <sgclark> Riddell: break and replace the 4 series?
[10:44] <Riddell> Tm_T: annoying person in #kubuntu using web interface, you might want to use your freenode contacts to ban his ip
[10:45] <Riddell> sgclark: use the same .deb package names where it makes sense
[10:49] <Riddell> "-- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found: PackageKitQt5" ah yes, that
[12:03] <Antisound> back again
[12:03] <Antisound> Riddell: i've no good news! kubuntu didn't boot up anymore after upgrading
[12:04] <Riddell> uh oh
[12:04] <Riddell> Antisound: what happens?
[12:05] <Antisound> it hung @ something with uuid generator
[12:05] <Antisound> or something like this
[12:05] <Antisound> i think that's just before it switches to graphical interface
[12:06] <Riddell> wibble
[12:06] <Riddell> could be an issue with SDDM?
[12:06] <Antisound> maybe...
[12:07] <Antisound> i don't know how to provide more information 
[12:07] <Antisound> Riddell: if you tell me how, i'm going to try again
[12:13] <Riddell> Antisound: is kubuntu-plasma5-desktop installed?
[12:13] <Antisound> i reinstalled kubuntu
[12:13] <Antisound> still have 5.0.2
[12:14] <Antisound> Riddell: i try it again...
[12:17] <Antisound> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8485472/
[12:17] <Antisound> Riddell: thats what i want's to install or not ;-)
[12:18] <Antisound> it's german, i hope you understand everything
[12:18] <Riddell> they looks like good things to install
[12:19] <Antisound> but why it says kubuntu-plasma5-desktop gets restrained?
[12:19] <Antisound> among the other packages
[12:20] <sgclark> do another apt-get update, perhaps something was building at the time you did?
[12:21] <Riddell> maybe I'm misreading
[12:21] <Riddell> Antisound: export LANG=C; run your command again and include the command in your pastebin
[12:21] <Antisound> w8 plz
[12:22] <Antisound> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8485490/
[12:22] <Antisound> u c 
[12:24] <Antisound> Riddell: that sounds not right somehow or am i wrong?
[12:25] <Riddell> Antisound: apt full-upgrade
[12:25] <Riddell> is your friend
[12:25] <Riddell> sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:26] <Antisound> Riddell: ok
[12:26] <Antisound> what to do if x won't start again?
[12:29] <Riddell> panic?
[12:29] <Riddell> run   sudo start sddm
[12:29] <Riddell> check logs in /var/log/syslog and /var/log/sddm.log
[13:57] <soee> hiho
[13:57] <soee> i did all the upgrades here for plasma 5.1 beta
[13:58] <soee> and the issue with strange sound when browsking extended view of systray is gone, also the notification spinner does not load all the time
[13:58] <soee> so both issues are fixed for me :)
[13:58] <soee> ill test logout/login now
[14:02]  * Riddell holds breath
[14:03] <soee> :|
[14:04] <soee> ok i did logout/login, plasmashell does not starts, i have black screen with cursor visible, krunner works, if i run plasmashell manually it starts but non of teh reboot, logout buttons work, also the issue with strange sound and loading notification spinner is back
[14:05] <Riddell> oh wibble
[14:05] <Riddell> this isn't sounding good
[14:05] <Riddell> soee: I assume you have kubuntu-plasma5-desktop installed?
[14:06] <soee> Riddell: yes
[14:06] <soee> but i must  test one more thing, turn off lapton not reboot
[14:06] <soee> brb
[14:08] <soee> ok this changes nothing
[14:09] <soee> i thing the problem with this strange sounf might be related to battery, im connected to power and battery is full though, in systray the icon is strange
[14:09] <soee> one second
[14:21] <soee> Riddell: 
[14:21] <soee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzOpAXJqNyk
[14:31] <Riddell> soee: what am I ment to see?
[14:31] <Riddell> text is pretty fuzzy
[14:34] <Antisound> hi guys! back again
[14:34] <Antisound> no way to getting it run!
[14:34] <Riddell> hi Antisound 
[14:34] <Riddell> waa
[14:34] <soee> :)
[14:34] <Riddell> I'm going to install a plasma5 image from today and do an upgrade
[14:34] <Antisound> on boot got to start it via konsole 
[14:34] <Antisound> startx
[14:34] <soee> Riddell: just showing the strange icon for battery section and the notification spinner that loads all th etime
[14:35] <Antisound> then every program closes unexpected
[14:36] <Riddell> soee: what should it show?
[14:36] <Riddell> valorie: mkusb seems like the weirdest UI ever
[14:38] <Antisound> Riddell: might be a good idea
[14:40] <sgclark> haha source: no-human-maintainers, so I am confused, what are the new Maintainers: suppose to have?
[14:40] <Riddell> sgclark: the robots have taken over!
[14:40] <sgclark> lol
[14:40] <Riddell> sgclark: I just ignore that, it's overriden in kubuntu-automation for the qa page
[14:40] <sgclark> ok
[14:40] <Riddell> of course shadeslayer disagree
[14:42] <soee> Riddell: i just wanted to show what i descriped how this 2 items in systrah behave
[15:10] <Riddell> installed plasma5 iso, 5.0.2 running fine
[15:10] <Riddell> added next-staging and full-upgrade
[15:10] <Riddell> all installs
[15:10] <Riddell> rebooted
[15:10] <Riddell> all fine
[15:10] <Riddell> don't know what you're all moaning about :)
[15:10] <Riddell> sgclark: have you been able to test?
[15:11] <sgclark> Riddell: not yet, I am still packagine addons, and don't want to break :( almost done tho
[15:11] <Riddell> very sensible
[15:12] <sgclark> speaking of which, where do you want this? is there a git repo already?
[15:12] <sgclark> Riddell: ^
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:12] <sgclark> hiyas
[15:12] <Riddell> sgclark: there is not, you can make one if you kow the secret of how
[15:12] <sgclark> I don't :(
[15:12] <Riddell> oh actually maybe I did already
[15:13] <Riddell> git clone debian:plasma/kdeplasma-addons
[15:13] <Riddell> a blank canvas ↑
[15:13] <sgclark> ty
[15:15] <soee> can i kill and run again the battery monitor in systray ?
[15:16] <Riddell> probably easiest to kill and run again plasmashell
[15:17] <soee> oh interesting
[15:17] <soee> in systray properties i have disabled notifications and the battery icon works normal now and the strange sound is gone
[15:17] <soee> though i can enable notifications again
[15:18] <soee> *cant
[15:18] <soee> i wont mention that if we unplug power supply than plug it in, the brighness % does not chnage to 100%
[15:19] <soee> ok i have enabled notification now again
[15:19] <soee> and have no issue with strnage sound or teh battery icon
[15:19]  * Riddell copies over to kubuntu-ppa/next
[15:24] <sgclark> Riddell: I just uploaded kdeplasma-addons to ppa, don't move to next yet, I forgot to install pbuilder on desktop and kinda cheating and using ppa for now
[15:24] <Riddell> sgclark: which ppa?
[15:24] <sgclark> Riddell: I tried to checkout kubuntu_utopic_next and failed error: pathspec 'kubuntu_utopic_next' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[15:25] <sgclark> Riddell: staging
[15:25] <Riddell> sgclark: you need to make the branch
[15:25] <Riddell> sgclark: for new packages I've been doing it in master
[15:25] <sgclark> err how do I do that, <-- git dummy
[15:25] <sgclark> ok
[15:25] <sgclark> master I can do haha
[15:25] <Riddell> then when I'm happy I   git checkout -b kubuntu_unstable
[15:25] <Riddell> then  git checkout -b kubuntu_utopic_next
[15:26] <Riddell> to make the branches for kubuntu-ci and for kubuntu-nice-and-sane
[15:26]  * sgclark is lost
[15:27] <sgclark> ok, well master is in
[15:32] <Riddell> sgclark: and incase you are now at a lose end, I just made starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/plasma-5.0.95/kde-gtk-config-5.0.95.tar.xz
[15:33] <sgclark> Riddell: sure, I have to leave for one hour, but can when I get back, if that is still useful to you
[15:34] <Riddell> sgclark: I expect it will be, but it's friday so make sure you have a happy weekend and don't overburden yourself!
[15:34] <sgclark> Riddell: :) 
[15:49] <Riddell> sgclark: looking at kdeplasma-addons   Homepage: http://plasma.kde.org/ doesn't exist
[15:50] <Riddell> sgclark: kdeplasma-addons-dbg should not depend on kde-workspace-dbg which is kde4 stuff
[15:51] <Riddell> sgclark: but you might want to dep on plasma-workspace-dbg
[15:51] <Riddell> sgclark: the dbg Depends should be listed as alternatives  Depends: foo-dbg | bar-dbg
[15:52] <Riddell> sgclark: s,kf5,Plasma 5, in debian/control
[15:52] <Riddell> sgclark: only 1 package has a Multi-Arch: setting so I suspect that's not much use, just ignore multi-arch for now I think in that package
[15:54] <Riddell> sgclark: newline at the end of debian/watch ?
[15:55] <sgclark> ok
[15:55] <Riddell> sgclark: copyright not updated?  I don't blame you :)
[15:56] <sgclark> ahh drat, I actually did grab copyright-helper with the intent. I will do it when I get back, promise
[16:33] <Riddell> sgclark: missing build-dep on qtdeclarative5-dev 
[17:00]  * Riddell out, have a lovely weekend all
[17:00] <Riddell> plasma 5.1 is in kubuntu-ppa/next
[17:17] <Antisound> Riddell: if you have worked it out with a actual plasma image... update me ;)
[17:41] <BluesKaj> ok installed the kubuntu-ppa/next, but I'm receiving this error, http://paste.kde.org/phwlumb9z , ran -f install, but no luck
[17:45] <sgclark> BluesKaj: you need to run apt-get update again, because ksysguard is @ ppa5
[17:46] <genii> BluesKaj: Taking the plunge eh? ;)
[17:46] <BluesKaj> sgclark, ran update first thing
[17:47] <BluesKaj> well trying it out genii, I can always revert \
[17:49] <BluesKaj> yofel gave me a fix the last time ksystemguard broke, but I can't recall what the fix was,. I recall it was relatively simple tho
[17:52] <sgclark> BluesKaj: can you try and install libkf5sysguard5 by itself?
[17:53] <sgclark> I am not entirely sure why it would do that, and I think most are gone for the day : /
[17:56] <BluesKaj> sgclark, looks like my timing is off then, installing libkf5sysguard5 just gives the same dependency errors
[17:58] <sgclark> That is very odd... just did the update myself and did not get that, but this is a pre-existing plasma5 install
[17:59] <sgclark> Can you try each of those individually to see if one of them is the problem?
[17:59] <BluesKaj> is there different ppa that i might need besides /kubuntu-ppa/next
[17:59] <sgclark> shouldn't no
[18:05] <BluesKaj> still getting this error http://paste.kde.org/pzpavwikb , guess i should have pasted that first
[18:06] <sgclark> ah ha, now we are getting somewhere, fixing, thank BluesKaj
[18:08] <sgclark> hmm which package is it suppose to be in..
[18:10] <sgclark> BluesKaj: dpkg -i –force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5sysguard5-data_4%3a5.0.95-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa4_amd64.deb
[18:24] <BluesKaj> sgclark, still erroring, http://paste.kde.org/ptkmf2f6t
[18:24] <sgclark> BluesKaj: will have to overwrite for now, 2 different packages with the same file and it will require more research. I filed a bug so folks can assist when they are around.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> ok thanks, sgclark, appreciate your efforts...gotta go as well
[18:25] <sgclark> ahh should be --force-overwrite (two dashes)
[18:25] <sgclark> ok
[18:27] <BluesKaj> yup, that fixed it, thanks
[18:35] <blueck> Riddell: ping
[18:36] <sgclark> blueck: he is gone for day (think weekend)
[18:36] <blueck> sgclark: Riddell apparently missed some "<?php i18n" calls in plasma-5.0.95.php, see http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-i18n-doc&m=141235399013961&w=2
[18:37] <blueck> sgclark: do you have write access to trunk/www/sites/www/ ?
[18:37] <sgclark> I think so, not sure though
[18:38] <blueck> sgclark: so can you try to add the missing "<?php i18n" calls?
[18:39] <sgclark> I am not sure where, what I find this ?  in plasma tar? in some file in trunk/www/sites/www ?
[18:42] <blueck> sgclark: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/announcements/plasma-5.0.95.php
[18:46] <sgclark> blueck: If I had to guess the <p> needs <?php i18n(  ? but also I have never used the svn... I don't what to do : (
[18:47] <sgclark> oh hrmm, lots of tags missing i18n
[18:48] <sgclark> blueck: sure I could fix this, point me to a kde svn for dummies
[18:51] <blueck> sgclark: https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Using_Subversion_with_KDE#Checking_out + https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Using_Subversion_with_KDE#Committing_to_the_repository
[18:52] <sgclark> blueck: ok fixing
[18:55] <blueck> sgclark: thx a lot
[19:01] <sgclark> blueck: well I don't think I have access, only errors
[19:02] <blueck> sgclark: ok, thanks for trying to help anyway
[19:02] <sgclark> blueck: different from git access I take it?
[19:03] <blueck> sgclark: yes
[19:03] <sgclark> ahh ok, guess I will have to apply for the future, sorry :(
[19:08] <sgclark> blueck: I submitted a request, maybe they will get back to me today
[19:08] <blueck> sgclark: thx again
[19:46] <Antisound> sgclark: do you maybe know.. if there's a live iso for the beta 1?
[19:46] <Antisound> not from kubuntu but from any other distro?
[19:46] <sgclark> Antisound: sorry I don't know
[19:47] <Antisound> okay, no problem. it was worth a try ;-)
[21:06] <valorie> Riddell: agree about mksub ui - very strange
[21:06] <valorie> and works badly the first time out, but after that you get used to it
[21:06] <valorie> I like that you can see each step in the konsole, as it happens, since it's a frontend to dd
[21:30] <sgclark> holy broken batman
[22:10] <valorie> sgclark: what's broken?
[22:10] <sgclark> my desktop :(
[22:10] <valorie> also, did you see my email about SeaGL?
[22:10] <valorie> ooooo
[22:10] <sgclark> nvidia-331 and sddm no get along :(
[22:11] <valorie> I chose lightdm, being at heart a coward, I guess
[22:11] <sgclark> nvidia-331 depends nvidia-prime which depends on lightdm...
[22:11] <sgclark> so have a mess on my hands
[22:11] <sgclark> at least I have laptop lol
[22:11] <valorie> I'm going to take apart that test laptop a bit and see if I can't do something to help the broken hinge
[22:12] <sgclark> valorie: yes, did you get my reply? I am waiting on libroffice to see if I can get assistance, I am broke :(
[22:12] <valorie> I was started to see artifacts on the screen last night, just when I finally got things working
[22:12] <valorie> ah, OK
[22:12] <valorie> will look
[22:12] <sgclark> hmm, that doesnt sound good
[22:13] <valorie> it's a great laptop -- except for a broken hinge
[22:13] <valorie> maybe I can fix something inside that will help
[22:13] <sgclark> I just got my desktop all set up too! /pout
[22:24] <valorie> well, I hope you get funding
[22:28] <sgclark> yes cross your fingers