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TheFakeazneD525say, can I use curl to see the contents of webpages without running the JS?00:21
c0sm0s_hello00:53
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c0sm0s_people looooooooooooooooooooooooooove talking in here02:30
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Guest20741Hi all.  Quick question of I may. I'm trying to bin Windows, and been trying Linux Mint, but been having lots of problems with nVidia graphics. Am considering installing Kubuntu and trying again with the nVidia drivers etc. Is Kubuntu & Mint so similar that I'd experience the same issues?  Should I maybe try Debian or another version instead?  Thanks for your time.03:12
TheFakeazneD525Mint is forked off of *buntu03:14
TheFakeazneD525and ubuntu is forked off of debian03:14
tsimpsonI don't know if Mint does anything different regarding propitiatory drivers, but it is a sore point in most distros03:14
tsimpsonyou can always try the live CD and see if it works though03:14
Guest20741Currently running liveCD, considering installing. Ah well, nowt to lose I suppose. My issue was the standard graphics worked until I tried games (obvious problems). So tried updating nVidia to slightly later driver, then got major flickering issues on-screen. Tried updating direct from nVidia site, but still had major issues. I've been working on this for several days, now. Starting to wear me out. lol03:17
Guest20741Determined to not return to Windows.03:18
SporkWitchGuest11525: what games? i normally just use the latest closed-source drive from the repo (nvidia) and haven't seen any issues that weren't game-specific03:22
SporkWitch(as in a specific game, not games in general)03:22
Guest20741Installed Steam, had issues with Crusader Kings 2. graphics not there (ie. land mass invisible). With latest nVida driver it played great, but had constant flickering onscreen just viewing text file, when scrolling text was unreadable.03:23
SporkWitchGuest11525: sounds like an issue with the refresh rate.  as to the partial-graphics issue, i've seen that happen occasionally the first time i launched a game on a computer; close it and launch it again and it comes up fine (worst case, a reboot).  haven't generally had that happen after the first time i've launched a game after installing it03:25
Guest20741There may have been workaround, but my lack of knowledge didn't help. So was case of reinstall & trying constantly different nVidia drivers. On the one occasion I tried to remove nVidia PPA, it pretty much removed everything from pc, another reinstall.03:25
SporkWitch(though haven't tried that game specifically, it's worth googling about it)03:25
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Guest20741I'll give Kubuntu a go. Maybe back for some advice later, hope you all don't mind.  Always tend to try to find answer first myself. Its a looong learning curve I'm undertaking with Linux.03:27
SporkWitchGuest11525: also check #steamlug for game-specific stuff03:28
SporkWitchwe've got a pretty bright group there03:28
Guest20741ok. Thanks for feedback. Have good evening/morning etc. wherever you may be. Probably be back with first issue shortly. lol03:28
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Ronny_So the latest Kubuntu on Distrowatch says the 32 bit is LTS, but what about the 64 bit?04:06
TheFakeazneD525ya04:07
TheFakeazneD52564 and 32 are LTS04:07
Ronny_They should state that on both downloads04:07
Ronny_thanks04:07
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SpicyShibeHmm kubuntu seems to overwrite ipv6 addresses instead of just adding the new ones. My openwrt router gives a local network fd*::* and a global. the local network address keeps overwriting the global address. Is there a simple way around this?05:10
dpkg_iIs plasma5 pretty much done? Will it eve be available for 14.04?06:02
soeegood morning06:20
valoriedpkg_i: sure, the neon5 stuff06:47
valorieI have it on this laptop, in fact06:48
dpkg_ivalorie: noice, gonna flip to it form 406:49
valoriehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-0406:49
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lordievaderGood morning.07:19
wheeeiI've tried to install wine/do a sudo apt-get upgrade  but I always run into the same problem. In the end I get this screen and can't click the "ok" : Type core fonts for the Web EULA                    │ END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE08:13
hateballwheeei: can you press enter?08:14
wheeeino08:14
valoriewheeei: use the arrow keys?08:15
wheeeihahha08:15
wheeeivalorie lol thx! it worked selecting it with the arrowkeys xD08:16
valorieexcellent08:16
wheeeione step closer to stop relying on the mouse ^^08:16
valoriewell, in the cli you don't use the mouse08:17
valorieexcept sometimes to scroll08:17
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Yossarianukhi - how to you get the krunner/run command - i.e -> ALT+F2 to be permanent ?10:15
Graf_WesterholtYossarianuk, I think there is no way to do this. Why do you want to do this?10:16
Yossarianukas its really useful...10:16
Graf_WesterholtYossarianuk, it wasts space.10:17
Yossarianukit would be really good to have on my 2nd monitor,.10:17
Yossarianukbut cheers for the response ?10:17
Yossarianuksorry I meant '!' not '?'10:17
Graf_WesterholtDo you use krunner every minute?10:18
Yossarianuknt but it would be nice to not have to press ALT+F2 every time I wanted to use it...10:19
Graf_WesterholtWhy? It is faster than going with the pointer to an existing krunner.10:20
davls82Hi all10:23
YossarianukWell I guess what I want is for it to load on kde startup (on 2nd monitor)10:24
swahi10:34
swahelp me10:34
Graf_Westerholt!ask | swa10:34
ubottuswa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:34
swacan u speak spanish?ç10:35
Graf_Westerholt!es | swa10:35
ubottuswa: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.10:35
kubuntuzebbi10:37
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swaWHY COPY MY NAME¿10:43
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Graf_WesterholtRiddell :)10:43
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Avihay_bHi. I have some mounting issues, where can I get some help?12:55
Avihay_bmore specifically, trying to mount an ext4 partition on a luks2 volume in an openLuks encrypted partition, and getting JBD2: no valid journal superblock found12:56
Avihay_bEXT4-fs (dm-1): error loading journal12:56
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Avihay_AI'v tried to mount ro,noload, and it loads, but I get io errors while trying to ls:13:00
Avihay_bhttp://paste.kde.org/pahgtjwsy13:01
WalexAvihay_b: most likely wrong decryption. Use 'disktype' to check the resulting block device13:21
Avihay_Awhat do you mean by disktype?13:37
Avihay_AWalex:13:37
WalexAvihay_A: 'disktype' is a command.13:40
WalexAvihay_A: you would use it like 'disktype /dev/mapper/*'13:40
Avihay_AWalex: not on a livecd of 14.040113:41
WalexAvihay_A: also note that "Input/output error" usually means just that.13:41
WalexAvihay_A: try 'dmesg | less +G'13:41
Avihay_bWalex: on the specific partition, I get Partition 5: 232.6 GiB (249802260480 bytes, 487895040 sectors from 501758+2)     Type 0x83 (Linux)13:45
WalexAvihay_b: thanks for letting me know what you think is a more useful command.13:47
Avihay_bWalex: I'm sorry, I ment it's not on the livecd, and probably any default installation13:49
Avihay_bwhen I run it on the partition after I used cryptsetup, I get: Linux LVM2 volume, version 00113:49
Walexyou should run it on the decrypted block device... But if that "partition" is the decrypted block device, than if it is a DM/LVM2 container obviously you cannot mount that.13:50
Avihay_bsorry, I ment that's what I get after running it on the decrypted block device in /dev/mapper13:51
WalexAvihay_b: then you need to activate the volume group and mount the relevant logical volume in that.13:51
WalexAvihay_b: it is not clear whether you have done all that or the Ubuntu LiveCD has done it for you.13:52
Avihay_bsomething like vgchange -ay?\13:52
WalexAvihay_b: it is possible that the Ubuntu LiveCD has done all that for you and the disk is simply too broken to read.13:52
Avihay_bno, I'm running it manually, since dolphin doesn't mount it properly when I ask it to13:52
WalexAvihay_b: try 'pvs', 'vgs' and 'lvs' first13:53
Avihay_bwould you mind explaining more?13:53
Avihay_bI think I got it13:54
WalexAvihay_b: your report has two bits conflicting: inability to access the filesystem metadata usually means that the decryption did not work, so what the filesystem finds looks random; but apparently there is a lit of directories after mounting, and you get "input/output error" when you access them13:55
Avihay_bhttp://paste.kde.org/pb9rrgnl913:55
WalexAvihay_b: so the question is first to make sure that you have done all the decryption and mounting steps right.13:56
WalexAvihay_b: is that 'root' and 'swap_1' as you expect?13:56
Avihay_bWalex: yes13:57
WalexAvihay_b: if it is, try 'disktype /dev/kubuntu-vg/root' or something similar13:58
Avihay_bExt3 file system  Last mounted at "/media/...13:59
WalexAvihay_b: then do 'umount /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'13:59
Avihay_bI guess I tryed to mount the block device as a partition when it actually contained a disk with two partitions last time?13:59
WalexAvihay_b: that's entirely possiblwe13:59
Avihay_bit's not mounted. try to mount it?14:00
WalexAvihay_b: no, try this: 'dd bs=1[CM if=/dev/kubuntu-vg/root of=/dev/null' and let it run14:00
WalexAvihay_b: for a bit to see if reports any inoput/output errors14:01
Avihay_bWalex: dd: invalid number ‘1[CM’14:01
WalexAvihay_b: no, try this: 'dd bs=1M if=/dev/kubuntu-vg/root of=/dev/null' and let it run14:01
WalexAvihay_b: if you are doing system administration you should be able to spot and correct obvious typos in common tools like 'dd'...14:02
Avihay_bwell, I usually manage to avoid invokeing dd manually, I'm aware of how powerfull it is14:03
Walexinterestin detail: a course to learn to type takes several weeks. Some people want to do system administration of multilayer storage configurations "as it happens" :-)14:03
Avihay_bWalex: I'm actually fixing a problem in a freinds computer, hench the crash course in LVM and LUKS, I ususlly deploy way simpler setups14:04
WalexAvihay_b: that's a good attitude...14:05
WalexAvihay_b: so is 'dd' going on without errors?14:05
Avihay_bso far. should I check dmesg?14:06
WalexAvihay_b: ideally yes, like 'dmesg | tail -40'14:06
WalexAvihay_b: if no errors so far, kill it and then run 'e2fsck -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root' (that is a read-only check).14:06
Avihay_bwell, other then [ 1709.192024] perf samples too long (2517 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 , which I assume has nothing to do with it, I get no unexpected entries in dmesg14:07
WalexAvihay_b: good...14:07
Avihay_bhttp://paste.kde.org/pvqryioq1 doesn't look particularly good14:08
WalexAvihay_b: that is not encouraging indeed.14:09
Avihay_balso, I appriciate, you said it's read only as it's the first thing i'd have asked14:09
WalexAvihay_b: check again 'dmesg' just to be real sure.14:10
Avihay_bno entries in dmesg, so I guess not a hardware issue14:11
WalexAvihay_b: it is possible that "something" has overwritten with random stuff the initial bit of the filesystem...14:11
WalexAvihay_b: if that is the case, 'e2fsck -b 8192 -f' might work well enough.14:12
WalexAvihay_b: so again read-only do 'e2fsck -b 8192 -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'14:13
Avihay_bhttp://paste.kde.org/piml6know14:14
Avihay_bso run it again with -n and the suggested superblock numbers?14:15
WalexAvihay_b: so again read-only do 'e2fsck -b 8193 -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'14:15
WalexAvihay_b: and after that try with 32768 as suggested.14:15
Avihay_bhttp://paste.kde.org/pwbbexrri14:16
WalexAvihay_b: both look bad, even if the '32768' case is a bit better.14:17
Avihay_bI've read I can mount ro while ignoring the superblock14:18
WalexAvihay_b: at this point one needs to know what happened and be careful so as to retrieve as much as possible from what is a damaged filesystem. That cannot be reasonably done by typing over IRC...14:18
Avihay_berr jornal14:18
WalexAvihay_b: that "mount ro while ignoring the superblock" does not make a lot of sense, probably it is about ignoring the hjournal14:18
Avihay_bjournal*14:18
* genii sips his coffee and ponders if the ' "something" has overwrtitten with random stuff the initial bit of the filesystem' might have been a grub install to partition instead of to disk14:18
Avihay_bthere's seem to be a dedicated grub partition on the hdd14:19
WalexAvihay_b: but if the thing is damaged one cannot just hope that 'mount' will work.14:19
WalexAvihay_b: if you have made a copy of that disk, I'd try 'e2fsck -b 32768 -f ....' and hope it finds stuff.14:20
WalexAvihay_b: if you have made a copy of that disk, I'd try 'e2fsck -b 32768 -f -y ....' and hope it finds stuff.14:20
Avihay_bthe owner said he tied to copy the hdd with dd to another hdd that was on the system while it was running fine, then he extracted the copy, and suddenly the system stopped working, even after he re-inserted the copy. all was done by powering down ofc14:20
Avihay_bseems the copy is dead14:22
WalexAvihay_b: I copy disks all the time with 'dd' and don't get trouble.14:22
Avihay_bhe had 4 hdds in the computer, and now only one of them reports as a functioning hard-drive14:23
WalexAvihay_b: but then it is possible that does not work well with DM/LVM2 as Kubuntu 'udev' tries hard to activate block devices automafically14:23
Avihay_bso I guess there was a wierd controller failure14:23
WalexAvihay_b: have you tried 'smartctl -A /dev/sd?' for example14:23
Avihay_bno14:23
WalexAvihay_b: if it is a hw problem ideally that disk would be put into a known-good PC first.14:24
WalexAvihay_b: I use SATA docking stations for example to do that.14:24
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WalexAvihay_b: as in: it is a bit crazy to do "recovery" on a PC which is suspected to have corrupted data14:26
Avihay_bWalex: yhe, I agree, I seem to be having more then one hardware issue. going for a known to be good pc. thanks alot. genii, thanks for the coffe fumes :-p14:37
rbergI build a kdepim-runtime 4:4.14.1-1 with this patch https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339327 .. I can upload it somewhere if anyone is interested in it15:01
ubottuKDE bug 339327 in groupdav "StartTime format wrong" [Major,Resolved: fixed]15:01
BluesKajHi folks15:12
graham1925Hi everyone. Quick question.  Have just installed Kubuntu whereas previously had installed KDE Mint.  On install, every partition was formatted apart from /Home.  It appears some settings are being carried through from my Mint install.  Is there a specific file to delete that would reset to defaults?15:14
graham1925Oh, and best say that I'm new to Linux. Don't have a clue apart from what I've learnt over last several days.15:15
graham1925For instance, when opening Konsole, it attempts to default to an old Mint folder, (ie. bash: /usr/bin/mint-fortune: No such file or directory).15:16
geniigraham1925: I would suggest to logout to the login screen, ctrl-alt-F1 for console, login and do: mv .kde .oldkde      and then: sudo service lightdm restart15:18
graham1925I also don't appear to have a icon for what would have been the Start Menu in Windows, just a blank spot.  Which, if I click - it opens the menu. Seems strange.15:18
graham1925genii: OK, will do. Many thanks.15:19
rberggraham1925: those settings are mostly kept in ~/.kde but some are also in ~/.local and ~/.config .. ~/ being /home/yourusername15:19
graham1925Back again. That certainly appeared to correct most issues.  Only (very minor) issue that I can now see which certainly doesn't cause any problems is the error when I open konsole (bash: /usr/bin/mint-fortune: No such file or directory).  Which I can certainly live with if there isn't an easy way of correcting it.  I also found another folder in the locations I was given called LinuxMint which I renamed LinuxmintOld.15:43
graham1925Once this is sorted will installing few apps & seeing how graphics behave. Thanks again for assistance.15:43
graham1925I've checked the 'Settings->Profile' on Konsole and there doesn't appear to be anything in there telling it to start in a folder that doesn't exist.  Ahah, Its telling it to run command '/bin/bash', So I'd best follow that see if bash command is doing anything specific.15:46
geniigraham1925: Glad to assist16:03
rberggraham1925 I bet fortune is being called in .bashrc or .profile16:18
rbergohh he's gone16:19
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Pierce_Hello17:55
bpromptallo17:56
Pierce_Oh IRC, how I somewhat miss thee17:56
Pierce_I  just recently updated to the next LTS17:56
Pierce_And my profile now just shows black, with no apparent way to click on anything17:57
* bprompt uses 12.0417:57
Pierce_I can pull up the Internet with a keyboard shortcut17:57
Pierce_And take a screenshot the same way17:57
Pierce_But damn if I can find a menu bar anywhere17:57
Pierce_It defaults to Netbook mode I think17:57
bprompthmm17:58
Pierce_But maybe is holding on to a previous configuration17:58
Pierce_Guest account works fine17:58
bpromptmaybe that's what it's, is the "desktop mode" being used17:58
Pierce_I do have a seperate monitor attatched17:58
Pierce_And am in desktop mode now on the guest17:58
Pierce_But I tried to shutdown and then start the computer again without the monitor plugged in17:59
Pierce_Hoping it would change the desktop17:59
Pierce_But no apparent luck17:59
bpromptPierce_:     tried changing the workspace mode yet?18:00
bpromptto say, Desktop18:00
Pierce_I would, but I don't know how I'd get to that setting without clicking on some task bar or something18:01
SpicyShibeKubuntu seems to overwrite ipv6 addresses instead of just adding the new ones. My openwrt router gives a local network fd*::* and a global. the local network address keeps overwriting the global address. Is there a simple way around this?18:01
Pierce_For my problem18:03
Pierce_Just looked up18:03
bpromptPierce_:       from a terminal you can just -> systemsettings18:03
Pierce_Maybe Alt+F218:03
bpromptPierce_:   and the Mode part is under Workspace Behaviour18:03
Pierce_Yeah, and I can type it from the run thingy with Alt+F218:03
Pierce_I'll be back!18:04
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keithzgAlright, time to live dangerously and upgrade to Utopic on my laptop ;)22:29
graham1925Hi all. Maybe quick question with hopefully easy answer.  I'm using default Dolphin file manager, which isn't displaying thumbnails of MP4's.  I've had look around Google and tried a few things (Installed ffmpegthumbs) and still no joy. Any idea's or answers much appreciated.23:10
graham1925Its a new install of Kubuntu and ran all updates, including added many things recommended from Google (ie. things to do on new install etc.).23:11
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valoriegraham1925: kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?23:15
valorienot sure I'd rely on Google23:15
valoriefor advice23:15
valorie!mp423:15
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html  - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats23:15
graham1925valorie: Many thanks for reply. Not sure if that was one of them. Will check.23:16
graham1925valorie: Nope, it wasn't. Installing now. Only use Google for hints, tips etc.  New user, gotta get my info somewhere and there's lots out there - some of it even contradictory.  Thanks for link ubottu: have bookmarked those sites and will check em out.23:18
valorieubottu is your best helper, really23:19
ubottuvalorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:19
valoriethere are links for most common questions23:19
valoriewell-vetted advice and links23:20
graham1925Still not displaying, may require reboot. Thanks for assistance its much appreciated. I'd be lost without having somewhere like this place to fall back on.  Is ok trawling away on Google for answers, but sometimes is easier to ask the question off those with way more knowledge than myself.23:20
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graham1925Hi all, still no thumbnails after reboot. Any nice n easy things to check?23:32
valoriesec, checking dolphin23:35
valorieso, in Dolphin preferences > General what choices do you have?23:38
graham1925valorie: I've got tabs for Behaviour, Previews, Confirmations & Status Bar.23:40
valorieI guess mp4 thumbnails aren't working for me either23:40
valorielet me check the bug tracker23:41
graham1925valorie: Cracked it. Many thanks. You're a star.23:41
valoriewhat did you fix?23:42
valoriesince mine aren't working23:42
valoriewell, the one .mp4 I had....23:42
graham1925valorie: I'm sure I'd checked Dolphin options etc. Maybe missed it, maybe that install I did added new options. The previews for viedo files wasn't selected.23:43
valoriek23:43
graham1925valorie: Just checking some other folders, all seems good. No doubt saved me trawling google and probably making more of a mess with my Kubuntu. Thanks again.23:44
valorieI don't have that option, so I assume you installed something I don't have23:44
valoriealways glad to help23:44

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