[00:21] <TheFakeazneD525> say, can I use curl to see the contents of webpages without running the JS?
[00:53] <c0sm0s_> hello
[02:30] <c0sm0s_> people looooooooooooooooooooooooooove talking in here
[02:30]  * TheFakeazneD525 eats c0sm0s_
[03:12] <Guest20741> Hi all.  Quick question of I may. I'm trying to bin Windows, and been trying Linux Mint, but been having lots of problems with nVidia graphics. Am considering installing Kubuntu and trying again with the nVidia drivers etc. Is Kubuntu & Mint so similar that I'd experience the same issues?  Should I maybe try Debian or another version instead?  Thanks for your time.
[03:14] <TheFakeazneD525> Mint is forked off of *buntu
[03:14] <TheFakeazneD525> and ubuntu is forked off of debian
[03:14] <tsimpson> I don't know if Mint does anything different regarding propitiatory drivers, but it is a sore point in most distros
[03:14] <tsimpson> you can always try the live CD and see if it works though
[03:17] <Guest20741> Currently running liveCD, considering installing. Ah well, nowt to lose I suppose. My issue was the standard graphics worked until I tried games (obvious problems). So tried updating nVidia to slightly later driver, then got major flickering issues on-screen. Tried updating direct from nVidia site, but still had major issues. I've been working on this for several days, now. Starting to wear me out. lol
[03:18] <Guest20741> Determined to not return to Windows.
[03:22] <SporkWitch> Guest11525: what games? i normally just use the latest closed-source drive from the repo (nvidia) and haven't seen any issues that weren't game-specific
[03:22] <SporkWitch> (as in a specific game, not games in general)
[03:23] <Guest20741> Installed Steam, had issues with Crusader Kings 2. graphics not there (ie. land mass invisible). With latest nVida driver it played great, but had constant flickering onscreen just viewing text file, when scrolling text was unreadable.
[03:25] <SporkWitch> Guest11525: sounds like an issue with the refresh rate.  as to the partial-graphics issue, i've seen that happen occasionally the first time i launched a game on a computer; close it and launch it again and it comes up fine (worst case, a reboot).  haven't generally had that happen after the first time i've launched a game after installing it
[03:25] <Guest20741> There may have been workaround, but my lack of knowledge didn't help. So was case of reinstall & trying constantly different nVidia drivers. On the one occasion I tried to remove nVidia PPA, it pretty much removed everything from pc, another reinstall.
[03:25] <SporkWitch> (though haven't tried that game specifically, it's worth googling about it)
[03:27] <Guest20741> I'll give Kubuntu a go. Maybe back for some advice later, hope you all don't mind.  Always tend to try to find answer first myself. Its a looong learning curve I'm undertaking with Linux.
[03:28] <SporkWitch> Guest11525: also check #steamlug for game-specific stuff
[03:28] <SporkWitch> we've got a pretty bright group there
[03:28] <Guest20741> ok. Thanks for feedback. Have good evening/morning etc. wherever you may be. Probably be back with first issue shortly. lol
[04:06] <Ronny_> So the latest Kubuntu on Distrowatch says the 32 bit is LTS, but what about the 64 bit?
[04:07] <TheFakeazneD525> ya
[04:07] <TheFakeazneD525> 64 and 32 are LTS
[04:07] <Ronny_> They should state that on both downloads
[04:07] <Ronny_> thanks
[05:10] <SpicyShibe> Hmm kubuntu seems to overwrite ipv6 addresses instead of just adding the new ones. My openwrt router gives a local network fd*::* and a global. the local network address keeps overwriting the global address. Is there a simple way around this?
[06:02] <dpkg_i> Is plasma5 pretty much done? Will it eve be available for 14.04?
[06:20] <soee> good morning
[06:47] <valorie> dpkg_i: sure, the neon5 stuff
[06:48] <valorie> I have it on this laptop, in fact
[06:49] <dpkg_i> valorie: noice, gonna flip to it form 4
[06:49] <valorie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/492599/how-to-install-and-test-kde-plasma-5-on-ubuntu-14-04
[07:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:13] <wheeei> I've tried to install wine/do a sudo apt-get upgrade  but I always run into the same problem. In the end I get this screen and can't click the "ok" : Type core fonts for the Web EULA                    │ END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE
[08:14] <hateball> wheeei: can you press enter?
[08:14] <wheeei> no
[08:15] <valorie> wheeei: use the arrow keys?
[08:15] <wheeei> hahha
[08:16] <wheeei> valorie lol thx! it worked selecting it with the arrowkeys xD
[08:16] <valorie> excellent
[08:16] <wheeei> one step closer to stop relying on the mouse ^^
[08:17] <valorie> well, in the cli you don't use the mouse
[08:17] <valorie> except sometimes to scroll
[10:15] <Yossarianuk> hi - how to you get the krunner/run command - i.e -> ALT+F2 to be permanent ?
[10:16] <Graf_Westerholt> Yossarianuk, I think there is no way to do this. Why do you want to do this?
[10:16] <Yossarianuk> as its really useful...
[10:17] <Graf_Westerholt> Yossarianuk, it wasts space.
[10:17] <Yossarianuk> it would be really good to have on my 2nd monitor,.
[10:17] <Yossarianuk> but cheers for the response ?
[10:17] <Yossarianuk> sorry I meant '!' not '?'
[10:18] <Graf_Westerholt> Do you use krunner every minute?
[10:19] <Yossarianuk> nt but it would be nice to not have to press ALT+F2 every time I wanted to use it...
[10:20] <Graf_Westerholt> Why? It is faster than going with the pointer to an existing krunner.
[10:23] <davls82> Hi all
[10:24] <Yossarianuk> Well I guess what I want is for it to load on kde startup (on 2nd monitor)
[10:34] <swa> hi
[10:34] <swa> help me
[10:34] <Graf_Westerholt> !ask | swa
[10:35] <swa> can u speak spanish?ç
[10:35] <Graf_Westerholt> !es | swa
[10:37] <kubuntu> zebbi
[10:42] <swa> hi
[10:42] <swa_> swa
[10:42] <swa> again
[10:42] <swa_> swa again
[10:43] <swa> WHY COPY MY NAME¿
[10:43] <swa__> zebbi
[10:43] <swa_> mother fuckers
[10:43] <swa__> zebbi
[10:43] <swa> shut up man
[10:43] <swa_> you mother is 9ahbaa
[10:43] <swa_> sdsd
[10:43] <swa> hi
[10:43] <Graf_Westerholt> Riddell :)
[12:55] <Avihay_b> Hi. I have some mounting issues, where can I get some help?
[12:56] <Avihay_b> more specifically, trying to mount an ext4 partition on a luks2 volume in an openLuks encrypted partition, and getting JBD2: no valid journal superblock found
[12:56] <Avihay_b> EXT4-fs (dm-1): error loading journal
[13:00] <Avihay_A> I'v tried to mount ro,noload, and it loads, but I get io errors while trying to ls:
[13:01] <Avihay_b> http://paste.kde.org/pahgtjwsy
[13:21] <Walex> Avihay_b: most likely wrong decryption. Use 'disktype' to check the resulting block device
[13:37] <Avihay_A> what do you mean by disktype?
[13:37] <Avihay_A> Walex:
[13:40] <Walex> Avihay_A: 'disktype' is a command.
[13:40] <Walex> Avihay_A: you would use it like 'disktype /dev/mapper/*'
[13:41] <Avihay_A> Walex: not on a livecd of 14.0401
[13:41] <Walex> Avihay_A: also note that "Input/output error" usually means just that.
[13:41] <Walex> Avihay_A: try 'dmesg | less +G'
[13:45] <Avihay_b> Walex: on the specific partition, I get Partition 5: 232.6 GiB (249802260480 bytes, 487895040 sectors from 501758+2)     Type 0x83 (Linux)
[13:47] <Walex> Avihay_b: thanks for letting me know what you think is a more useful command.
[13:49] <Avihay_b> Walex: I'm sorry, I ment it's not on the livecd, and probably any default installation
[13:49] <Avihay_b> when I run it on the partition after I used cryptsetup, I get: Linux LVM2 volume, version 001
[13:50] <Walex> you should run it on the decrypted block device... But if that "partition" is the decrypted block device, than if it is a DM/LVM2 container obviously you cannot mount that.
[13:51] <Avihay_b> sorry, I ment that's what I get after running it on the decrypted block device in /dev/mapper
[13:51] <Walex> Avihay_b: then you need to activate the volume group and mount the relevant logical volume in that.
[13:52] <Walex> Avihay_b: it is not clear whether you have done all that or the Ubuntu LiveCD has done it for you.
[13:52] <Avihay_b> something like vgchange -ay?\
[13:52] <Walex> Avihay_b: it is possible that the Ubuntu LiveCD has done all that for you and the disk is simply too broken to read.
[13:52] <Avihay_b> no, I'm running it manually, since dolphin doesn't mount it properly when I ask it to
[13:53] <Walex> Avihay_b: try 'pvs', 'vgs' and 'lvs' first
[13:53] <Avihay_b> would you mind explaining more?
[13:54] <Avihay_b> I think I got it
[13:55] <Walex> Avihay_b: your report has two bits conflicting: inability to access the filesystem metadata usually means that the decryption did not work, so what the filesystem finds looks random; but apparently there is a lit of directories after mounting, and you get "input/output error" when you access them
[13:55] <Avihay_b> http://paste.kde.org/pb9rrgnl9
[13:56] <Walex> Avihay_b: so the question is first to make sure that you have done all the decryption and mounting steps right.
[13:56] <Walex> Avihay_b: is that 'root' and 'swap_1' as you expect?
[13:57] <Avihay_b> Walex: yes
[13:58] <Walex> Avihay_b: if it is, try 'disktype /dev/kubuntu-vg/root' or something similar
[13:59] <Avihay_b> Ext3 file system  Last mounted at "/media/...
[13:59] <Walex> Avihay_b: then do 'umount /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'
[13:59] <Avihay_b> I guess I tryed to mount the block device as a partition when it actually contained a disk with two partitions last time?
[13:59] <Walex> Avihay_b: that's entirely possiblwe
[14:00] <Avihay_b> it's not mounted. try to mount it?
[14:00] <Walex> Avihay_b: no, try this: 'dd bs=1[CM if=/dev/kubuntu-vg/root of=/dev/null' and let it run
[14:01] <Walex> Avihay_b: for a bit to see if reports any inoput/output errors
[14:01] <Avihay_b> Walex: dd: invalid number ‘1[CM’
[14:01] <Walex> Avihay_b: no, try this: 'dd bs=1M if=/dev/kubuntu-vg/root of=/dev/null' and let it run
[14:02] <Walex> Avihay_b: if you are doing system administration you should be able to spot and correct obvious typos in common tools like 'dd'...
[14:03] <Avihay_b> well, I usually manage to avoid invokeing dd manually, I'm aware of how powerfull it is
[14:03] <Walex> interestin detail: a course to learn to type takes several weeks. Some people want to do system administration of multilayer storage configurations "as it happens" :-)
[14:04] <Avihay_b> Walex: I'm actually fixing a problem in a freinds computer, hench the crash course in LVM and LUKS, I ususlly deploy way simpler setups
[14:05] <Walex> Avihay_b: that's a good attitude...
[14:05] <Walex> Avihay_b: so is 'dd' going on without errors?
[14:06] <Avihay_b> so far. should I check dmesg?
[14:06] <Walex> Avihay_b: ideally yes, like 'dmesg | tail -40'
[14:06] <Walex> Avihay_b: if no errors so far, kill it and then run 'e2fsck -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root' (that is a read-only check).
[14:07] <Avihay_b> well, other then [ 1709.192024] perf samples too long (2517 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 , which I assume has nothing to do with it, I get no unexpected entries in dmesg
[14:07] <Walex> Avihay_b: good...
[14:08] <Avihay_b> http://paste.kde.org/pvqryioq1 doesn't look particularly good
[14:09] <Walex> Avihay_b: that is not encouraging indeed.
[14:09] <Avihay_b> also, I appriciate, you said it's read only as it's the first thing i'd have asked
[14:10] <Walex> Avihay_b: check again 'dmesg' just to be real sure.
[14:11] <Avihay_b> no entries in dmesg, so I guess not a hardware issue
[14:11] <Walex> Avihay_b: it is possible that "something" has overwritten with random stuff the initial bit of the filesystem...
[14:12] <Walex> Avihay_b: if that is the case, 'e2fsck -b 8192 -f' might work well enough.
[14:13] <Walex> Avihay_b: so again read-only do 'e2fsck -b 8192 -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'
[14:14] <Avihay_b> http://paste.kde.org/piml6know
[14:15] <Avihay_b> so run it again with -n and the suggested superblock numbers?
[14:15] <Walex> Avihay_b: so again read-only do 'e2fsck -b 8193 -n /dev/kubuntu-vg/root'
[14:15] <Walex> Avihay_b: and after that try with 32768 as suggested.
[14:16] <Avihay_b> http://paste.kde.org/pwbbexrri
[14:17] <Walex> Avihay_b: both look bad, even if the '32768' case is a bit better.
[14:18] <Avihay_b> I've read I can mount ro while ignoring the superblock
[14:18] <Walex> Avihay_b: at this point one needs to know what happened and be careful so as to retrieve as much as possible from what is a damaged filesystem. That cannot be reasonably done by typing over IRC...
[14:18] <Avihay_b> err jornal
[14:18] <Walex> Avihay_b: that "mount ro while ignoring the superblock" does not make a lot of sense, probably it is about ignoring the hjournal
[14:18] <Avihay_b> journal*
[14:18]  * genii sips his coffee and ponders if the ' "something" has overwrtitten with random stuff the initial bit of the filesystem' might have been a grub install to partition instead of to disk
[14:19] <Avihay_b> there's seem to be a dedicated grub partition on the hdd
[14:19] <Walex> Avihay_b: but if the thing is damaged one cannot just hope that 'mount' will work.
[14:20] <Walex> Avihay_b: if you have made a copy of that disk, I'd try 'e2fsck -b 32768 -f ....' and hope it finds stuff.
[14:20] <Walex> Avihay_b: if you have made a copy of that disk, I'd try 'e2fsck -b 32768 -f -y ....' and hope it finds stuff.
[14:20] <Avihay_b> the owner said he tied to copy the hdd with dd to another hdd that was on the system while it was running fine, then he extracted the copy, and suddenly the system stopped working, even after he re-inserted the copy. all was done by powering down ofc
[14:22] <Avihay_b> seems the copy is dead
[14:22] <Walex> Avihay_b: I copy disks all the time with 'dd' and don't get trouble.
[14:23] <Avihay_b> he had 4 hdds in the computer, and now only one of them reports as a functioning hard-drive
[14:23] <Walex> Avihay_b: but then it is possible that does not work well with DM/LVM2 as Kubuntu 'udev' tries hard to activate block devices automafically
[14:23] <Avihay_b> so I guess there was a wierd controller failure
[14:23] <Walex> Avihay_b: have you tried 'smartctl -A /dev/sd?' for example
[14:23] <Avihay_b> no
[14:24] <Walex> Avihay_b: if it is a hw problem ideally that disk would be put into a known-good PC first.
[14:24] <Walex> Avihay_b: I use SATA docking stations for example to do that.
[14:26] <Walex> Avihay_b: as in: it is a bit crazy to do "recovery" on a PC which is suspected to have corrupted data
[14:37] <Avihay_b> Walex: yhe, I agree, I seem to be having more then one hardware issue. going for a known to be good pc. thanks alot. genii, thanks for the coffe fumes :-p
[15:01] <rberg> I build a kdepim-runtime 4:4.14.1-1 with this patch https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339327 .. I can upload it somewhere if anyone is interested in it
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:14] <graham1925> Hi everyone. Quick question.  Have just installed Kubuntu whereas previously had installed KDE Mint.  On install, every partition was formatted apart from /Home.  It appears some settings are being carried through from my Mint install.  Is there a specific file to delete that would reset to defaults?
[15:15] <graham1925> Oh, and best say that I'm new to Linux. Don't have a clue apart from what I've learnt over last several days.
[15:16] <graham1925> For instance, when opening Konsole, it attempts to default to an old Mint folder, (ie. bash: /usr/bin/mint-fortune: No such file or directory).
[15:18] <genii> graham1925: I would suggest to logout to the login screen, ctrl-alt-F1 for console, login and do: mv .kde .oldkde      and then: sudo service lightdm restart
[15:18] <graham1925> I also don't appear to have a icon for what would have been the Start Menu in Windows, just a blank spot.  Which, if I click - it opens the menu. Seems strange.
[15:19] <graham1925> genii: OK, will do. Many thanks.
[15:19] <rberg> graham1925: those settings are mostly kept in ~/.kde but some are also in ~/.local and ~/.config .. ~/ being /home/yourusername
[15:43] <graham1925> Back again. That certainly appeared to correct most issues.  Only (very minor) issue that I can now see which certainly doesn't cause any problems is the error when I open konsole (bash: /usr/bin/mint-fortune: No such file or directory).  Which I can certainly live with if there isn't an easy way of correcting it.  I also found another folder in the locations I was given called LinuxMint which I renamed LinuxmintOld.
[15:43] <graham1925> Once this is sorted will installing few apps & seeing how graphics behave. Thanks again for assistance.
[15:46] <graham1925> I've checked the 'Settings->Profile' on Konsole and there doesn't appear to be anything in there telling it to start in a folder that doesn't exist.  Ahah, Its telling it to run command '/bin/bash', So I'd best follow that see if bash command is doing anything specific.
[16:03] <genii> graham1925: Glad to assist
[16:18] <rberg> graham1925 I bet fortune is being called in .bashrc or .profile
[16:19] <rberg> ohh he's gone
[17:55] <Pierce_> Hello
[17:56] <bprompt> allo
[17:56] <Pierce_> Oh IRC, how I somewhat miss thee
[17:56] <Pierce_> I  just recently updated to the next LTS
[17:57] <Pierce_> And my profile now just shows black, with no apparent way to click on anything
[17:57]  * bprompt uses 12.04
[17:57] <Pierce_> I can pull up the Internet with a keyboard shortcut
[17:57] <Pierce_> And take a screenshot the same way
[17:57] <Pierce_> But damn if I can find a menu bar anywhere
[17:57] <Pierce_> It defaults to Netbook mode I think
[17:58] <bprompt> hmm
[17:58] <Pierce_> But maybe is holding on to a previous configuration
[17:58] <Pierce_> Guest account works fine
[17:58] <bprompt> maybe that's what it's, is the "desktop mode" being used
[17:58] <Pierce_> I do have a seperate monitor attatched
[17:58] <Pierce_> And am in desktop mode now on the guest
[17:59] <Pierce_> But I tried to shutdown and then start the computer again without the monitor plugged in
[17:59] <Pierce_> Hoping it would change the desktop
[17:59] <Pierce_> But no apparent luck
[18:00] <bprompt> Pierce_:     tried changing the workspace mode yet?
[18:00] <bprompt> to say, Desktop
[18:01] <Pierce_> I would, but I don't know how I'd get to that setting without clicking on some task bar or something
[18:01] <SpicyShibe> Kubuntu seems to overwrite ipv6 addresses instead of just adding the new ones. My openwrt router gives a local network fd*::* and a global. the local network address keeps overwriting the global address. Is there a simple way around this?
[18:03] <Pierce_> For my problem
[18:03] <Pierce_> Just looked up
[18:03] <bprompt> Pierce_:       from a terminal you can just -> systemsettings
[18:03] <Pierce_> Maybe Alt+F2
[18:03] <bprompt> Pierce_:   and the Mode part is under Workspace Behaviour
[18:03] <Pierce_> Yeah, and I can type it from the run thingy with Alt+F2
[18:04] <Pierce_> I'll be back!
[22:29] <keithzg> Alright, time to live dangerously and upgrade to Utopic on my laptop ;)
[23:10] <graham1925> Hi all. Maybe quick question with hopefully easy answer.  I'm using default Dolphin file manager, which isn't displaying thumbnails of MP4's.  I've had look around Google and tried a few things (Installed ffmpegthumbs) and still no joy. Any idea's or answers much appreciated.
[23:11] <graham1925> Its a new install of Kubuntu and ran all updates, including added many things recommended from Google (ie. things to do on new install etc.).
[23:15] <valorie> graham1925: kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[23:15] <valorie> not sure I'd rely on Google
[23:15] <valorie> for advice
[23:15] <valorie> !mp4
[23:16] <graham1925> valorie: Many thanks for reply. Not sure if that was one of them. Will check.
[23:18] <graham1925> valorie: Nope, it wasn't. Installing now. Only use Google for hints, tips etc.  New user, gotta get my info somewhere and there's lots out there - some of it even contradictory.  Thanks for link ubottu: have bookmarked those sites and will check em out.
[23:19] <valorie> ubottu is your best helper, really
[23:19] <valorie> there are links for most common questions
[23:20] <valorie> well-vetted advice and links
[23:20] <graham1925> Still not displaying, may require reboot. Thanks for assistance its much appreciated. I'd be lost without having somewhere like this place to fall back on.  Is ok trawling away on Google for answers, but sometimes is easier to ask the question off those with way more knowledge than myself.
[23:32] <graham1925> Hi all, still no thumbnails after reboot. Any nice n easy things to check?
[23:35] <valorie> sec, checking dolphin
[23:38] <valorie> so, in Dolphin preferences > General what choices do you have?
[23:40] <graham1925> valorie: I've got tabs for Behaviour, Previews, Confirmations & Status Bar.
[23:40] <valorie> I guess mp4 thumbnails aren't working for me either
[23:41] <valorie> let me check the bug tracker
[23:41] <graham1925> valorie: Cracked it. Many thanks. You're a star.
[23:42] <valorie> what did you fix?
[23:42] <valorie> since mine aren't working
[23:42] <valorie> well, the one .mp4 I had....
[23:43] <graham1925> valorie: I'm sure I'd checked Dolphin options etc. Maybe missed it, maybe that install I did added new options. The previews for viedo files wasn't selected.
[23:43] <valorie> k
[23:44] <graham1925> valorie: Just checking some other folders, all seems good. No doubt saved me trawling google and probably making more of a mess with my Kubuntu. Thanks again.
[23:44] <valorie> I don't have that option, so I assume you installed something I don't have
[23:44] <valorie> always glad to help