[18:15] <Alive> Hello, how long does it usually take for Ubuntu developers to respond to a bug report ?
[18:15] <jtaylor> depends on the package
[18:16] <Alive> Also the traffic.
[18:16] <Alive> :)
[18:16] <Alive> ;)
[18:16] <Alive> 5 years.
[18:16] <Alive> Two months.
[18:16] <Alive> 2 days
[18:17] <Alive> Depends on the developers state of health also, he might have had an accident.
[18:17] <Alive> But usually not though.
[18:17] <Alive> I lodged a bug report against package crda
[18:18] <Alive> Is this one of those loooong waits.
[18:18] <Alive> Just because its important ?
[18:18] <Alive> hehee
[18:19] <jtaylor> its main, so chances are higher its not never
[18:19] <Alive> Yay !
[18:19] <jtaylor> but you still often better of filing a bug upstream or in debian
[18:19] <jtaylor> unless its ubuntu specific
[18:20] <Alive> mmm
[18:20] <Alive> I doubt it is specific to ubuntu.
[18:20] <Alive> Package crda, when uninstalled from an Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system causes a kernel panic.
[18:20] <Alive> Package crda has a priority of optional noted in its control file. One would thus not expect a kernel panic after uninstalling it.
[18:21] <jtaylor> you should never have to expect kernel panics
[18:22] <Alive> Yeah well if it said a priority of totally important not optional, I would have felt dumber if I had a kernel panic.
[18:22] <jtaylor> if its reproducable you could check in ubuntu-kernel
[18:22] <jtaylor> they certainly need more information than is in the bug
[18:22] <jtaylor> hardware, stacktraces etc.
[18:23] <Alive> I only have a photo of the stack trace.
[18:23] <jtaylor> apport-collect bugnumber should provide some
[18:23] <Alive> And it should be easy to reproduce.
[18:23] <Alive> Just in-install crda.
[18:23] <Alive> :)
[18:23] <Alive> un-install.
[18:23] <jtaylor> if it happens may depend on the wireless hardware
[18:24] <Alive> Even if you disable all wireless hardware.
[18:24] <Alive> Still panics.
[18:24] <Alive> Wanna try ?
[18:24] <Alive> lol
[18:25] <jtaylor> as far as I can tell this package is not even a kernel module
[18:25] <jtaylor> maybe a kernel bug
[18:25] <jtaylor> check in -kernel if someone can reproduce it
[18:26] <Alive> #kernel ?
[18:26] <jtaylor> #ubuntu-kernel
[18:27] <Alive> Right will ask around.
[18:37] <Alive> Well I made channel #ubuntu-kernel go completely quiet.
[18:37] <Alive> jtaylor, do you have any system you could play with ?
[18:38] <Alive> The closest to reproducing this panic I got so far is: Running a live CD from a USB stick and uninstalling crda. Then the system freezes up, does not complete its boot, but no stack trace dump on the screen.
[18:39] <jtaylor> not now, also I can't help with that
[18:40] <Alive> I have a slow internet connection, its like being a retard.
[18:41] <Alive> Else I could quickly download the i386 live CD.
[18:41] <Alive> to play with.
[18:41] <Alive> on the other old laptop.
[18:53] <Alive> bye bye