[07:25] <willcooke> morning
[08:03] <Laney> hey there
[08:03] <Laney> haaaaaaaaaaaappy friday
[08:05] <seb128> good morning Laney, happy friday!
[08:07] <Laney> how's it going!
[08:08] <seb128> good, it's friday!
[08:08] <seb128> you?
[08:10] <Laney> this kind of thing is all over the news this morning http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/03/conservatives-ignore-european-court-human-rights-rulings
[08:10] <Laney> so a bit >:|
[08:12] <seb128> urg
[08:13] <Laney> also you should read the ubuntu-ci-eng log from last night
[08:13] <Laney> apparently a glib test plan is desired
[08:15] <seb128> reading
[08:15] <seb128> I see you replied after I left
[08:15] <Laney> yeah I got hilighted a few times
[08:15] <seb128> I had a go at telling them that's not going to happen from us
[08:16] <Laney> it seems like it could be just 'open system settings, go to about->storage, see if you get totals' ...
[08:18] <seb128> that works for me
[08:18] <seb128> if that make them happy
[08:18] <Laney> Bit worried that it won't scale to have this for every single package on the image
[08:19] <seb128> well, ideally they would just run a full test of tests with the update and check there is no regression
[08:19] <seb128> but seems like they don't want to do that?
[08:19] <seb128> set of tests*
[08:20] <Laney> I think he's trying to make it targeted, which is more lightweight or something
[08:20] <seb128> yeah
[08:20] <seb128> but reality is that e.g qt uses the glib mainloop
[08:20] <seb128> so testing only settings seems little testing
[08:24] <willcooke> little > none ?
[08:24] <seb128> sure is
[08:24] <willcooke> that's got to be good then?
[08:24] <seb128> :-)
[08:24] <willcooke> not as simple as that eh?
[08:24] <willcooke> :)
[08:25] <seb128> well, my view was that if they want to make sure those upgrades don't create issues they should run the full set of tests
[08:25] <willcooke> I concur
[08:25] <willcooke> thank you and good night
[08:25] <seb128> but I'm not sure why I argue for that, in practice it means more chance they block our stuff :p
[08:25]  * willcooke shuts up 
[08:25] <seb128> I should just sign for the "let's run settings, see if it works, if it does claim everything is good" :-)
[08:26] <willcooke> works for me ;)
[08:27] <Laney> we should sync the final version there anyway
[08:27]  * Laney syncs -2 to utopic first
[08:28] <Laney> man, no more eds prompts on startup is nice
[08:29] <seb128> so you confirmed the fix works?
[08:29] <seb128> I'm going to SRU it
[08:29] <Laney> yeah
[08:29] <Laney> however ... evolution isn't opening for me
[08:29] <seb128> shrug
[08:29] <Laney> could be unrelated
[08:30] <seb128> bah, launchpad still didn't import the e-d-s translations
[08:30] <seb128> I wonder what's going on there
[08:30] <seb128> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/evolution-data-server/+imports doesn't list any po
[08:31] <seb128> but the build had those and exported them in a translations tarball
[08:31] <seb128> so I guess need dpm there
[08:31] <seb128> that sucks because currently our langpacks are shipping the -3.10 .mo
[08:31] <seb128> which means e-d-s/evo are untranslated
[08:31] <seb128> well, I guess we could fix that at least, even if the translations are incomplete due to the import problem
[08:32] <seb128> pitti, ^ do you know what's needs to make 3.10 -> 3.12 for e-d-s and evo in langpacks?
[08:32] <Laney> bet he's off
[08:32] <seb128> oh, right
[08:32] <Laney> try wgrant maybe
[08:32] <seb128> Germany is slacking
[08:32] <seb128> that can wait next week I guess
[08:33] <dgadomski> good morning everyone
[08:33] <willcooke> hey dgadomski
[08:34] <dgadomski> seb128: hello, we have a user interested in having the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm/+bug/1370852 in trusty
[08:35] <dgadomski> seb128: is there a release planned any time soon?
[08:35] <seb128> dgadomski, hey, that would be a question for lightdm
[08:35] <seb128> ups
[08:35] <seb128> question for robert_ancell
[08:35] <seb128> he's likely after work hours though, he's in .nz
[08:35] <seb128> so maybe try sending him an email?
[08:35] <dgadomski> ok, I've just seen your name in the utopic changelog, so I thought you may know something about it
[08:36] <dgadomski> seb128: thanks, I will try to email him
[08:38] <seb128> Laney, tried wgrant on -devel, let's see
[08:56] <Laney> seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/glib2.0 can you think of one or two more things to say?
[09:04] <seb128> Laney, well, we could test some indicator
[09:05] <seb128> for example
[09:05] <seb128> like check that the battery charge info is correct
[09:05] <Laney> wfm
[09:08] <Laney> does evo work on utopic for other people?
[09:09] <seb128> Laney, it starts, calendar is working, old emails are available
[09:09] <seb128> I didn't try to do more
[09:09] <Laney> hmm
[09:09] <Laney> I don't get the UI
[09:09] <seb128> any stdout error?
[09:10] <Laney> some stuff
[09:10] <Laney> don't know what was there before
[09:12] <seb128> what does gdb say?
[09:12] <Laney> aha
[09:12] <seb128> handing on a sync call to some service?
[09:12] <Laney> it's the evolution-ews hang
[09:12] <Laney> cool, I couldn't reproduce that before
[09:13] <seb128> fsvofcool
[09:14] <seb128> ;-)
[09:33] <Laney> OHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHhhhhhHHhhhHHhhhHHH
[09:33] <Laney> it sounds like the classic
[09:33] <Laney> gnome bug #594473
[09:37] <seb128> bah
[09:38] <Laney> not confirmed, don't get excited yet ;-)
[09:40] <Laney> but now it is
[09:40] <Laney> permission to get excited granted
[09:41] <Laney> hahaha
[09:41] <Laney> I like bug #1377071
[09:43] <Laney> It's worded eloquently, kind of sad to wontfix it
[09:43] <seb128> yeah
[09:44] <seb128> the british and then en_GB :-)
[09:44] <seb128> their
[10:49] <darkxst> Laney, seb128, can you unsubscribe ubuntu-sponsors from bug 1257190, pending upstream review see comment #5
[10:51] <seb128> darkxst, done
[10:51] <darkxst> seb128, thanks
[10:51] <seb128> yw!
[11:43] <seb128> ok, I'm offline for a good part of the afternoon, back later
[11:43] <Laney> hf ;-)
[13:16] <willcooke> Laney, are you going to FOSDEM>?
[13:36] <Laney> willcooke: ideally
[13:37] <willcooke> Laney, you think Seb128 will go too?
[13:37] <willcooke> anyone else?
[13:37] <Laney> last year it was Laney desrt attente_ Sweetshark didrocks
[13:37] <Laney> no, not attent
[13:38] <Laney> argh
[13:40] <desrt> last year we arranged the desktop team to have a sprint in the week directly following fosdem, which worked out really nicely
[13:40] <desrt> travelling to fosdem to fosdem's sake, across an ocean, is a bit of a waste
[13:41] <Laney> oh yeah, those guys really only went because of that
[13:41] <Laney> desrt: I think that just applied to you though
[13:47] <willcooke> desrt, sprint in London?
[13:47] <desrt> yes
[13:48] <Laney> eww
[13:48] <desrt> willcooke: i mean... nottingham, of course
[13:48] <desrt> screw london
[13:49] <Laney> :)
[13:49] <willcooke> :D
[13:51] <Laney> could also choose norwich, cambridge, manchester or any other nice city
[13:51]  * desrt likes all of those
[13:51] <desrt> Laney: i think there's the small matter of a nice venue available in london :)
[13:52] <Laney> plus air and rail links
[13:52] <Laney> that's part of the problem :p
[14:39] <Laney> cyphermox_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch/+bug/1354823 is this interesting to you?
[14:40] <cyphermox_> right
[14:40] <cyphermox_> I have something almost ready
[14:40] <Laney> weird to see some third party filing it
[14:41] <Laney> could you follow up?
[14:41] <cyphermox_> sure
[14:41] <Laney> ty
[14:41] <cyphermox_> are we good to upload? ;)
[16:03] <Laney> Trevinho: please to review my unity mp
[16:03] <Laney> I just got the archive version back and argh
[16:21] <Trevinho> Laney: sure I'm on it
[16:22] <Laney> thanks
[16:30] <Trevinho> Laney: looks good, can you just put the brackets in new line (as per the unity style)?
[16:30] <Laney> Trevinho: the {?
[16:31] <Trevinho> Laney: yup
[16:31] <Laney> kay, one second
[16:32] <Trevinho> ta
[16:33] <Laney> Trevinho: try that
[16:33] <Trevinho> Laney: approved
[16:33] <Laney> great
[16:33] <Laney> will you handle uploading it at some point?
[16:34] <Trevinho> Laney: unfortunately I can't; that's a work for bregma
[16:34] <Trevinho> Laney: we'll also backport it btw
[16:34] <Laney> well, either way ;-)
[16:35] <Trevinho> Laney: oh, actually ... I was thinking: why instead of relying on the compiz "DIsabled" we don't do something like: if (action.key().toString().empty()) ?
[16:36] <bregma> I'll start prepping a Unity silo in a bit
[16:36] <Laney> dunno, does that work?
[16:36] <Trevinho> Laney: yes, check the actio.ccp code
[16:37] <Trevinho> Laney: the "Disabled" string is added only when using keyToString(), instead the key().toString() only tries to convert
[16:38] <Laney> okay let's see if that works
[16:43] <Trevinho> Laney: just double checked, it does the job
[16:44] <Laney> seems to be building so far
[16:52] <Trevinho> Laney: leaving for some running, feel free to push, I'll check again later if you're not in, but works in both ways ;)
[16:53] <Laney> Trevinho: pushed
[16:54] <Laney> happy running
[16:54] <Laney> compiz's mix of whitespace styles within the same file is sad
[16:56] <Trevinho> Laney: yes, I know... that tab/spaces thing is so bad
[17:09] <Laney> laters
[17:09] <Laney> happy weekend!
[17:11] <alxgrtnstrngl> Just a quick question, with Unity 8 the new desktop, how will themes be made, will I be able to load a KDE 5 theme and have it work?
[17:11] <alxgrtnstrngl> Because both will be on Qt5 correct, so this should trivial, no?