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diddledan__there ya go daftykins00:11
daftykinsmmm?00:11
daftykinsdiddledan__: what's with the underscores? :)00:11
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diddledanbetter!00:12
diddledanI rebooted my router without disconnecting first so I ended up with underscoritis00:12
diddledanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkje4FiH9Qc00:13
snarfithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkje4FiH9Qc: Jesus Christ Superstar (1973) - Everything's Alright - YouTube00:13
diddledanlike?00:13
diddledanthere's zero throttling00:13
diddledanso it could end up flooding00:13
daftykins:O00:14
daftykinsnice work sir00:14
diddledanthe code is here: https://github.com/diddledan/snarfit00:19
snarfithttps://github.com/diddledan/snarfit: diddledan/snarfit · GitHub00:19
diddledanwell done, sn00:19
diddledanburger00:19
diddledanit didn't like that00:19
daftykinswow you did something from scratch just for me!00:19
daftykinsd'aww00:20
shaunomaking it read its own source may have been a little too introspective for it at this time of night00:20
daftykinslol00:20
diddledanhehe00:20
daftykinsits' parting message would've been... "...daddy?"00:20
daftykinswey-hey, with shauno back it's the late-night trio back in force00:20
daftykins:)00:20
diddledanwhy didn't you like https://github.com/diddledan/snarfit snarfit ?00:21
snarfithttps://github.com/diddledan/snarfit: diddledan/snarfit · GitHub00:21
diddledanhmm, maybe because I disconnected the terminal?00:21
shaunoalso, personal gripe .. url: desc bugs me.  url - desc means I can still click the url00:21
diddledanyour client sucks00:22
diddledan:-p00:22
daftykins:D00:22
diddledanhmm, maybe it was an issue with a second url meaning it'll do it when I post http://twitter.com00:27
snarfithttp://twitter.com: Welcome to Twitter - Login or Sign up00:27
diddledannope00:27
diddledanok, it must have been because I killed the terminal00:28
diddledanI killed it myself that time00:30
diddledannot a bug!00:30
diddledantest: http://twitter.com00:34
snarfithttp://twitter.com: Welcome to Twitter - Login or Sign up00:34
diddledanyey00:34
diddledanno crash00:34
daftykins\o/00:34
diddledannow, what happens when a bug number is posted I wonder?00:36
diddledanbug #100:36
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100:36
snarfithttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1: Bug #1 (liberation) “Microsoft has a majority market share” : Bugs : Ubuntu00:36
diddledanmaybe I should tell it to ignore lubotu3?00:37
shaunoand possibly anything that lubotu3 should catch00:39
shaunoeg, if I link to https://launchpad.net/bugs/100:39
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]00:39
shaunoobv. it shouldn't catch the bot there, but I'm not sure it should catch me either00:39
shaunopersonally I'd probably just whitelist it to domains that are known to be 'blobby', like youtube.  but that's not what you asked ;)00:50
diddledanbug #100:52
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100:52
snarfithttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1: Bug #1 (liberation) “Microsoft has a majority market share” : Bugs : Ubuntu00:52
diddledangrr00:52
diddledanit's supposed to ignore that00:52
diddledanbug #1 ?00:57
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/100:57
snarfithttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1: Bug #1 (liberation) “Microsoft has a majority market share” : Bugs : Ubuntu00:57
diddledandangit00:57
diddledanI give up00:57
diddledanit's not hitting either of my two ignore bits00:58
diddledansnarf!01:00
diddledanbug #101:00
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101:00
snarfithttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1: Bug #1 (liberation) “Microsoft has a majority market share” : Bugs : Ubuntu01:00
daftykinsok i think this das keyboard's controller is gone01:01
daftykinsthis is driving me spare01:01
diddledanawww, nooooo01:01
diddledanno effin eff?01:01
daftykinsyeah, sometimes it produces it late so i get "atfer" for after01:02
diddledanthat's your tyoping01:02
daftykinsnewp :)01:05
diddledanbug #101:07
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101:07
snarfithttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1: Bug #1 (liberation) “Microsoft has a majority market share” : Bugs : Ubuntu01:07
diddledanooh, my logic is wrong01:07
diddledanmy comparator is comparing lubotu3 == 001:08
diddledanbug #101:10
lubotu3bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101:10
diddledanyey01:10
diddledanhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/101:10
diddledanooh it didn't like that01:11
diddledanok, this time01:12
diddledanhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/101:12
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]01:12
diddledangrr01:12
diddledanTypeError: Object https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 has no method 'match'01:12
diddledanif I cast to String() would that work?01:13
diddledanhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/101:13
lubotu3Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]01:13
diddledanbetter01:13
diddledanit ignored both of those01:13
diddledan\o/01:14
diddledanI think it's good-enough01:14
diddledannow let's copy it to the server again and run it headless01:14
OERIASConceal me what I am, and be my aid For such disguise as happily shall become The form of my intent05:45
daftykinsmmk05:46
OERIASShakespeare05:51
OERIASTwelfth Night05:51
daftykinsdoesn't make much sense to me05:52
OERIASShakespeare is still relevant in a world like ours that is filled with rats and cunning weasels.05:54
daftykinsit's highly pretentious and overrated though05:54
daftykinshaving it forced down ones neck during education isn't the best of introductions either05:54
OERIASHere my question, if anything, Shakespeare might have written the plays for the nobility, but in reality his plays and poems often pointed out the injustice of his time, a time much like ours.05:56
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zmoylan-pieagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines :-)06:28
MyrttiOggCamp!06:29
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MooDoomorning all07:21
Myrttiooh. Finnish municipal libraries ♥ Not only do they have books, movies, audiobooks, magazines, music and newspapers, some of them have musical instruments, boardgames, 3D printers, blood pressure monitors and sewing machine and overlocker. Wow.07:29
zmoylan-piso in case of zombie apocalypse you can rebuild civilisation :-)07:48
Myrttiyup07:48
OERIASzmoylan-pi, in the event of such castastrophe a lot of current computing devices would be usesless07:51
OERIASi.e Macbook Pro with retina display07:51
* zmoylan-pi clutches my rasp pi07:54
davmor2Morning all, todays sound track starts "No one would of believed, in the last years of the 19th Century"08:16
MooDoomorning davmor2 da da da....08:17
zmoylan-pithe chances of anything...08:22
* zmoylan-pi flips through mp3 collection08:22
MooDoodavmor2: No one could have dreamed we were being scrutinized, as someone with a microscope08:23
zmoylan-pijust a pity they've never made a movie of it08:27
davmor2zmoylan-pi: they did there have been 208:27
zmoylan-pii SAID it's a real pity they never made a movie of it!! :-)08:28
davmor2zmoylan-pi: the half decent original version and the Tom Cruise half soaked attempt08:28
foobarryweird. i have no bass in my headphones when plugged in the rear speaker port, but only thru the front headphone socket08:29
MooDoodavmor2: start a campaign for a new movie :D  davmor2's kickstarter :D08:29
zmoylan-pithe 50's cheesy version and the tom cruise nonsense08:30
zmoylan-pithey did good sci fi in the 50s's war of the worlds doesn't qualify08:30
MooDooThe invaders was quite good08:30
zmoylan-pithe tv series?08:31
MooDooyes08:31
zmoylan-piit was just a thinly disguised beware of communism thingy08:31
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MooDoostill liked it :D08:32
zmoylan-pimind we had the cia to thank for doctor zhivago AND the animated version of animal farm to thank as well :-)08:32
davmor2MooDoo: Tripod08:34
MooDoodavmor2: oooo yes forgot about that one08:35
zmoylan-pipity the bbc only made books 1 + 208:35
zmoylan-pigood adaptions as well08:35
MooDoohttp://www.tv.com/shows/category/science-fiction/decade/1960s/08:36
snarfithttp://www.tv.com/shows/category/science-fiction/decade/1960s/:08:36
MooDooland of the giants08:36
MooDoosnarfit: lol snap08:36
zmoylan-piand have enjoyed listening to their audio version of caves of steel and naked sun08:36
diddledanMooDoo: I see you met my bot :-p08:37
diddledanI made it for daftykins - it's supposed to grok the title08:37
diddledan.. of a url posted08:38
zmoylan-pisnarf, named after thundercats?08:38
MooDooah lol08:40
MooDooby the power of greyskull.....better than thundercats08:42
zmoylan-pibattle of the planets08:46
awilkinsI dunno, I fancied Cheetara more than Teela08:46
MooDooooo yeah08:46
zmoylan-pioh god furries ::reaches for disinfectant:: :-p08:47
MooDooewwwwwwwww08:47
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Friday, and happy Techie’s Day! :-D08:52
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:52
JamesTaitAlso, and I'm sure completely unrelated, happy Smile Day. :)08:53
brobostigon:)08:54
davmor2MooDoo: battle of the planets was better than both :P08:54
davmor2defender of the earth, Ulysses, dungeons and dragons08:56
zmoylan-pialso national potato day in ireland \o/08:56
zmoylan-pirecently watched ulysses 31 for first time in decades, still good08:56
zmoylan-pithe animation was no expense spared08:57
MooDoodavmor2: loved dnd shame it ended08:57
MooDoooooo what about starfleet08:58
zmoylan-piterrahawks08:58
MooDoohowdy JamesTait brobostigon08:58
brobostigonmorning MooDoo08:59
MooDoomy personal fave "Chorlton and the wheelies"08:59
zmoylan-pipretty much anything by anderson08:59
davmor2MooDoo: yeah with Brian May singing the theme song09:00
MooDooheh09:00
zmoylan-pirhubarb09:00
davmor2flumps09:01
MooDoofraggle rock09:01
davmor2muppets09:01
MooDoodark crystal :D09:01
davmor2labyrinth09:01
MooDoowhodoo you do09:02
JamesTaitI do what? ;)09:02
brobostigonmagic roundabout09:02
zmoylan-pibutton moon09:02
MooDoomr spoon09:02
davmor2jamie and his magic torch09:02
JamesTaitThat's me!09:02
zmoylan-pibagpuss09:02
davmor2wurzel gummage09:03
MooDoowith aunt sally :D09:03
JamesTaitI've got a Wurzel Gummage annual upstairs in my bookcase.09:03
JamesTaitNo idea where it came from!09:03
davmor2princess bride09:04
foobarrymysterious cities of gold?09:04
davmor2robin hood, robin hood, riding through the glen, robin hood, robin hood and his band of merry men09:04
foobarryi still watch bagpuss09:04
awilkinsThe Dark Crystal is still awesome09:06
awilkinsThe soundtrack especially09:06
awilkinsThe kids entertainment today lacks that little vein of "Grimm" terror in it that it really needs to produce mature and well adjusted people09:06
awilkinsThey need little doses of fear to learn not to become craven cowards in later life !09:07
foobarryor to instil primal nightmares in them to terrify them through to adulthood09:07
foobarryare you my mummy?09:07
awilkinsHeheh09:07
foobarryi imagine there's still kids having nightmarse about that09:07
MooDooI just let my 3 year old watch a nightmare on elm street09:08
diddledanoh god: http://www.doctorwho.tv/whats-new/article/doctor-who-comes-to-minecraft-on-xbox09:08
foobarryi read grimm at about age 7.09:08
snarfitnull: Doctor Who comes to Minecraft on Xbox | Articles | Doctor Who09:08
diddledansnarfit: what happend to your url?09:09
diddledanit's buggy as heck09:09
diddledanonly took 30 minutes to code09:09
MooDooah there begins the extra cost to minecraft09:10
awilkinsAh yes09:11
awilkins£1.9909:11
MooDoosigh09:11
zmoylan-pistart small09:11
MyrttiHudl 2 looks pretty good for the price09:12
zmoylan-pihudl 1 never seemed to make it to ireland which was a pity as it looked pretty decent09:13
brobostigonmy concern would be, tesco's idea, of android upgrades.09:13
Myrttiyeah.09:13
awilkinsOffspring has a HUDL109:13
brobostigonwhich as far as i saw, with the first model, was non-existant.09:14
awilkinsNot a bad tablet, but yet, no upgrades09:14
awilkinsWonder if you can nuke + cyanogenmod it09:14
brobostigonwhen android l comes out, thats probably what i will have to do on my nexus7.09:15
awilkinsNo update love for the version 1 N7 ?09:15
awilkinsOr you just want to avoid Android L?09:15
brobostigoni doubt it, there arent any test images as of yet.09:15
awilkinsScuttlebutt is that the Google employee test platform for Android L is Nexus 409:16
brobostigonno idea.09:17
Myrttiawilkins: I have N7 2012 and it's now at the point that I just want to make it a crabpot weight09:17
awilkinsGiven the new execution platform should cut CPU and battery consumption I would have thought it would be a welcome refresh to the older devices09:18
brobostigoni have cm11 on mine, and it still, does the job very very well.09:18
awilkinsBUT you have to temper that with the marketing guys going "Whoa, don't put a welcome refresh on those older devices, people won't buy the new ones!"09:18
brobostigonthe beauty of cm.09:19
MyrttiI should go pack and shower09:19
Myrttisilly oggcamp09:19
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popey\o/ Oggcamp09:20
shaunohm.  slightly awkward getting to work and discovering I forgot to screw the bottom of my laptop back on09:29
diddledanlol09:30
awilkinsOops09:31
awilkinsOccasionally I get there and have to swap the work OS drive back into it09:31
awilkinsBut I carry a screwdriver at all times for this reason09:31
shaunoyeah.  luckily we have enough nerds that screwdrivers / rubber mallets are rarely far away09:32
zmoylan-pionly 1 screwdriver?09:38
awilkinsOnly need one09:38
awilkinsOnly one kind of screw in the laptop09:38
diddledanyou only need one hammer09:39
diddledanall screws work with the same hammer09:39
awilkinsSpeaking of Cyanogenmod, anyone seen one of these in the wild? http://oneplus.net/uk/one09:39
snarfithttp://oneplus.net/uk/one: OnePlus One - OnePlus.net09:39
MooDooawilkins: yeah my mate has got one, he loves it.09:39
awilkinsStill need an invite to buy one though09:40
awilkinsGah09:40
zmoylan-pia blackjack and wait outside googles office? :-p09:40
davmor2MooDoo: Trapdoor!10:15
zmoylan-pian awesome game on 8 bit computers as well10:16
diddledanis it lunch time yet?10:33
zmoylan-pidepends where you are on the planet10:34
davmor2diddledan: it's always lunchtime some where10:40
* zmoylan-pi hands diddledan some acme rocket powered roller skates and a helmet and points to east :-)10:42
shaunoif it's not lunchtime yet, it just means you have more time to cook a bigger lunch :)10:44
popeyi cooked all of the bacon in the house11:05
popeyi am now done with bacon for today11:06
brobostigon:)11:06
MooDooBACON!!!!11:09
davmor2popey: jono will be upset11:12
MooDoodavmor2: jono is too busy to care now he's schmoozing with the hollywood stars ;)11:13
* zmoylan-pi breaks out emergency sausage roll11:23
* brobostigon has his amergency giant cornish pasty.11:24
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MooDooLooks like our ubuntu forums .org forum has been archived for inactivity11:30
zmoylan-pido people still use forums?11:32
MooDooguess not lol11:33
foobarryi do11:52
foobarrynot techie ones, although with techie ones often the info i need is on page 59 of a thread you have to read in entirety11:53
foobarrynice specs on hudl2 , has anyone used one?12:00
MooDoofoobarry: thinking about them for the kids at christmas12:04
foobarryi have a question: if i buy an app on google play store, is it available to download on all devices registered to my account?12:06
MartijnVdSyes12:07
foobarry\o/12:07
DJonesfoobarry: Most times, some apps aren't always compatible with every device though12:12
foobarryyep. as long as in theory my phone and tablet can use it, all good12:13
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diddledanrandom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiyh-w2BsoI12:56
snarfithttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiyh-w2BsoI: Destroy Every Pie You Touch : Parody : Weebl and Bob - YouTube12:56
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directhexdiddledan, makes more sense in the context of the parodied music video13:14
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diddledangood ol' ladytron black mambazo13:15
diddledanor is that a different group?13:15
diddledan:-p13:15
shaunothe chaps off the Heinz advert?13:15
diddledanpossibly?13:15
MooDooladysmith black mambazo13:15
diddledanis ladytron the lass that son-of-flynn frees from the grid?13:16
diddledan</spoiler>13:16
awilkinsDoesn't she free him?13:16
awilkinsAnd that's Qorra13:17
diddledanshe's purdy13:17
shaunodown boy!13:18
foobarrymmm purdeys13:18
diddledanwoof13:19
awilkinsI can never quite reconcile how Olivia Wilde is now, with her performance as Thirteen in House13:19
diddledano_O13:19
foobarryi'm not sure who any of these people are13:19
MartijnVdSgoogle image search :)13:19
foobarryalthough i discovered today that kelso and jackie from 70s show are actually partners13:20
foobarryand how donna seems to be a more tomboy version of my wife13:20
gingcan you still get flash to work on chrome on ubuntu 12.04?13:20
awilkinsfoobarry, Your wife is a version of Laura Prepon? Lucky dog....13:21
MartijnVdSfoobarry: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100225130000/tardis/images/9/9c/Donna.jpg ?13:21
foobarryaargh not her13:21
awilkinsging, Pepper flash? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-pepper-flash-for-chromium-web-browser-on-ubuntu-gnulinux.html13:21
snarfithttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-pepper-flash-for-chromium-web-browser-on-ubuntu-gnulinux.html: How to install Pepper Flash for Chromium Web browser on Ubuntu GNU/Linux | Ubuntu Geek13:21
foobarrythe one awilkins mentiond13:21
awilkins: http://kosmixmedia.com/static/9e5864c47325ae54513f5a2486b4701d.jpg13:22
diddledanwell done13:22
diddledanyou found a bug13:22
foobarryhttp://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/callinamarie/default/laura-prepon--large-msg-136337352124.jpg13:22
diddledanachievement unlocked: post a jpg and watch the bot die13:22
foobarrylooks more like my link than your one13:23
foobarryminus airbrushing etc13:23
awilkinsYeah, mine is more recent13:23
awilkinsHer look has changed a lot, especially for Orange Is the New Black13:24
gingthanks awilkins13:24
foobarryi prefer the old look awilkins , less fake13:29
shaunoslashdot has some interesting translation going on; http://i.imgur.com/Qk4iWPk.png13:55
shauno(and no, I'm not in france  heh)13:56
diddledanshauno's a frog!13:57
diddledan</racism>13:57
diddledandoes doing </whateveryoujustdidthat'soffensive> negate the offence?13:57
diddledanif not then I guess I need to apologise to all the frogs present?13:59
shaunoreminds me, I found the oddest code today (C) ..13:59
diddledanooh13:59
diddledanshow us13:59
shaunoit started with #include <math.h>, and then at the end of the file, it had </math.h>14:00
diddledanlol14:00
diddledanoops14:00
shaunonow, C ain't my thing, but .. I'm not sure it works like that?14:00
diddledanoh that's made my day14:00
shaunohttp://www.geodatasource.com/developers/c14:01
snarfithttp://www.geodatasource.com/developers/c: Calculate Distance by Latitude and Longitude using C/C++ | GeoDataSource World Cities Database14:01
jpdsshauno: You need to spend more time on: http://www.thedailywtf.com/14:02
snarfithttp://www.thedailywtf.com/:14:02
diddledanI wonder if that was done by the CMS?14:02
arsenipis there an official procedure for upping to kernel 3.2.x14:25
diddledanyeah, let apt handle it14:25
diddledanmajor kernel revisions should come along with a release-upgrade14:26
arseniphm14:27
arsenipwell, ive got a fresh 14.04, want to whack on a newer kernel - but nothing in repo14:27
diddledanwell 3.2 is older than what trusty has by default iirc?14:27
diddledanyeah, my trusty install has 3.1314:28
arseniphm14:30
arsenipwhat if i want to specifically use 3.2?:)14:30
diddledanit's probably too old14:30
diddledanI would imagine that trusty relies on newer kernels than 3.214:31
awilkins3.13 is newer than 3.2 ... why do you need 3.2?14:32
arsenipgotcha. looking for bugs across distros14:36
arsenipspecific to that version :)14:36
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Azelphurhttps://www.dropbox.com/s/odi8xd23lu7g5du/2014-10-03%2015.54.12.jpg?dl=0 colemak problems :<14:54
snarfithttps://www.dropbox.com/s/odi8xd23lu7g5du/2014-10-03%2015.54.12.jpg?dl=0: Dropbox - 2014-10-03 15.54.12.jpg14:54
diddledanthat makes my head hurt14:56
Azelphurhaha14:57
directhexAzelphur, you have bigger problems14:57
AzelphurI wonder if there's something I can do to make them not be silver.14:57
directhexmad catz problems14:57
Azelphurdirecthex: are you talking about my broken strike 7? yea I know :P14:57
davmor2Azelphur: paint them black14:58
Azelphurright now my house is like gaming keyboard central, I have a G19, G19S, Strike 7, Corsair K50, PX-2000 >.<14:58
Azelphuroh and the G1314:58
Azelphurdavmor2: yea, but that'd be difficult to do without also painting the letters14:58
diddledanwww.youtube.com/watch?v=u6d8eKvegLI14:59
davmor2Azelphur: remove the keys then paint them black14:59
Azelphurdiddledan: hehe14:59
Azelphurdavmor2: that doesn't make it any easier to not paint over the (transparent, backlight) letters14:59
ali1234i don't understand how you are supposed to play borderlands 2 :(15:00
Azelphurali1234: isn't it native now?15:00
ali1234most of the game is really easy, then you hit a boss15:01
ali1234the only way i can kill them is find a way to get the AI stuck in a place where they can't attack me, and then sniper rifle them in the head 40 times15:01
davmor2Azelphur: you asked how to not make them silver you should learn to be more specific :P15:01
Azelphurdavmor2: haha15:01
ali1234their attacks are one hit kills15:01
davmor2Azelphur: in all seriousness, you could use a small crafting paintbrush and a steady hand15:02
Azelphuryea, I'd ruin it.15:02
ali1234they have like 10000 HP and I have like 100 HP, and my attacks do 40 HP damage and theirs do 25015:02
directhexdodge!15:03
Azelphurcoin15:03
* Azelphur runs15:03
ali1234how do you dodge an area affect attack that sets the entire map on fire?15:03
Azelphurali1234: fly!15:03
davmor2Azelphur: actually you'll probably find they are black keys just painted silver have you tried scratch one gently?15:03
Azelphurdavmor2: I haven't15:04
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ChrisfuAnybody familiar with Ubuntu OpenStack, particularly the Orange Box? Trying to replicate an Orange Box-like environment to PoC OpenStack, and I've found myself stuck in a chicken-and-egg scenario.15:34
ChrisfuAny pointers would be most appreciated.15:34
ChrisfuBit of background to anyone that sees this later and feels they could help: 10 machines, old Dell R210's we have lying around, matched specs as close to the NUC's in the Orange Box as much as possible.15:39
ChrisfuUbuntu server on node0, MAAS installed. The other 9 nodes are enrolled and I can work with them, provision them, reset them. All fine.15:40
Chrisfuhttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hands-on-with-canonicals-orange-box-and-a-peek-into-cloud-nirvana/ suggests that node0 has a virtual machine on it, that looks to have had Juju deployed onto it. Yet as far as I'm aware, Juju's bootstrapping process (when run on node0) is simply going to pick a random node and attempt to deploy the Juju workload to it.15:44
snarfithttp://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/06/hands-on-with-canonicals-orange-box-and-a-peek-into-cloud-nirvana/: Hands-on with Canonical’s Orange Box and a peek into cloud nirvana | Ars Technica15:44
shaunoChrisfu: my best suggestion would be to try in #ubuntu-server - they live, breath, and in many cases, write the stuff you're asking about15:45
Chrisfushauno: Thanks for the tip.15:46
directhexdavmor2, Azelphur, the plastic is sorta see-through under the silver.16:04
Azelphurdirecthex: yea I know :)16:04
awilkinsali1234, In real life, an area affect that sets the map on fire will kill you if you fly because the uprising gases will have no oxygen in them16:06
* awilkins wonders if enlightened DMs for D&D take this into account when hurling a fireball into a 10x10 room of fireproof creatures that nevertheless have to metabolise16:07
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diddledanany kerbal addicts? this is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQ-CShPYEk17:06
snarfithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RQ-CShPYEk: SKY + + BOX - A Kerbal Space Program Movie - YouTube17:06
daftykinsthank you snarfit! :)17:10
daftykinsalmost 11 whole minutes!17:11
davmor2czajkowski: Hippo Birdy17:45
diddledanI think it's time I stopped working for today19:12
daftykinsyip19:12
daftykinsi'm debating a curry19:12
diddledanmm, tasty19:13
foobarryjust watched a horrid film19:13
daftykinsi'm feeling too lazy to bother to shave to look presentable, to go and get it though :(19:13
foobarrydon't know why i carried on watching19:13
shaunoyou need to shave to get a curry?19:19
daftykinsyeah i don't like going out in public looking homeless :)19:19
foobarryif you're going to curry or co-op,. its ok19:20
foobarryi was at work with 5 day growth this week19:21
diddledan5 whole days? you lot are lightweights19:21
diddledan<-- hippy19:21
foobarry5 days = scruffy19:22
shaunoI rock homeless all the time :)  I apparently can't grow a beard.  I can grow 5 beards which aren't on speaking terms with each other.19:22
daftykinsi can't grow anything though19:27
daftykinsshauno: lol, like it19:27
daftykinstrouble is i'm in the centre of town, i'm guaranteed to see someone i know too, given as it's Guernsey19:28
daftykinsand there's one degree of separation19:28
shaunoI wasn't sure.  I have you and directhex perpetually confused in my head.  As soon as the conversation's over, I'll instantly forget which of you is the islander :)19:28
daftykinsd'aww19:29
daftykinsit's easy, hexy is all sensible with wife and child19:29
daftykinsi'm the care-free daft one19:29
diddledanlol19:30
daftykinshmm i'm gonna nip off to the curry house then, hopefully it's not chock full of lairy work-meal types19:31
brobostigonyummy19:35
diddledanis it a good thing or bad that transformers made the "blwoooorp" noise so prevalent?19:44
shaunoI'm not sure what you're talking about.  and /exec say blwoooorp didn't help much19:48
shaunoreminds me, completely off topic, but I have some accessibility stuff turned on for various reasons.  and I'm fairly sure my mac's pronounciation of english is getting worse19:50
diddledanit's because they're using siri19:51
diddledansiri is learning bad english off chavs19:51
diddledanthat's then getting ploughed into the maps for speach synthesis19:51
diddledanit's inception that invented the noise, aparently (re: my transformers comment): http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/braaam-10-trailers-that-use-abuse-the-inception-braaam-2013041219:54
snarfithttp://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/braaam-10-trailers-that-use-abuse-the-inception-braaam-20130412: BRAAAM! 10 Trailers That Use & Abuse The 'Inception' BRAA | The Playlist19:54
shaunohttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ge7qin4fafi6kre/serena.mp3?dl=019:55
snarfithttps://www.dropbox.com/s/ge7qin4fafi6kre/serena.mp3?dl=0: Dropbox - serena.mp319:55
shauno(and seriously, I think a whitelist is the way to go ;)19:56
shaunoit's handy for youtube, vimeo, and ... almost nothing else.19:57
shaunobut yeah, the voice synth.  whenever it has to pronounce the name of a process, it butchers it.  it can say "login window", but not "loginwindow"19:58
foobarrywho runs snarfit?19:58
diddledanI'm not sure "runs" is valid19:58
foobarryfor irssi users, it should tinyurl the link19:58
diddledanI fired it and forgot19:58
foobarryso when it repeats the link, it just shows the tinyurl version instead  and the descriptopn19:59
foobarryjust a suggestion :D20:00
diddledanhttps://github.com/diddledan/snarfit <-- patch it and submit a pull-request :-p20:00
snarfithttps://github.com/diddledan/snarfit: diddledan/snarfit · GitHub20:00
foobarryi'll do that if i remember/have time next week20:04
daftykinsmmm curry20:37
gebbioneif you have 14.04 installed can you tell me if you can resize your folders columns when viewing in list mode20:50
zmoylan-piin thunar?20:51
gebbioneisnt gnome the default?20:52
daftykinsnautilus.20:52
gebbionewell it is the default one20:52
ali1234what channel is this?20:52
shaunofun reading, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221949   (short version, you can, but it's not intuitive *when* you can)20:52
snarfithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221949: [SOLVED] Nautilus 14.04 Resize columns20:52
gebbionethe concept of solved for some people is interesting20:54
gebbione" you can only resize a filed when it's next to a filed that has extra space"20:54
shaunoheh, I'm not defending it, just bringing the convo to the point where you know as much as I do :)20:55
gebbionesometimes even the stupid things microsoft does (not that i used win8 for instance but everyone talks badly about it) sound nothing compared to the basic failures of some functionality in linux distros20:56
ali1234nobody makes you use gnome20:57
daftykinsdifference is, you can change it.20:57
ali1234in practice you can't20:57
ali1234unless you fork the entire desktop20:57
ali1234good luck maintaining that20:57
daftykinsthere are two changes possible20:58
gebbionesee just talking about it opens a debate20:58
daftykinsusing Windows doesn't? :)20:58
daftykinsgebbione: you can ask for a refund if you like20:58
ali1234the easiest solution is just to not use gnome20:58
gebbioneahahha time is not refoundable20:58
ali1234or at the very least stop using nautilus20:58
gebbionedaftykins, so how do you browse your desktop20:59
gebbionefiles system in the GUI21:00
daftykinsthat's not relevant21:00
gebbioneit is for me, i am looking for a solution that does not require any customisation other than a straight forward one, at least not requiring mainteinance21:00
daftykinsso basically you want an alternative that doesn't involve changing anything?21:01
daftykins1) use a different file manager 2) use a different DE21:01
ali1234install xubuntu21:02
gebbioneis there any difference between nautilus and gnome?21:02
ali1234yes, one is a file manager, one is a desktop that includes nautilus21:02
ali1234nautilus is also the default in unity afaik21:03
gebbioneso the alternative to nautilus would be?21:03
zmoylan-piwhich is why even in ubuntu i use thunar :-)21:03
ali1234nemo, thunar, pcmanfm...21:03
gebbioneand to see how they look i need to install them? i guess some videos are on youtube or such21:03
ali1234nemo is a fork of nautilus from before it jumped the shark21:03
ali1234it's probably the best one for you, if you just want a less annoying version of nautilus21:04
gebbionezmoylan-pi, why thunar21:04
gebbionehttp://artfulrobot.com/blog/whats-best-file-manager-ubuntu-gnome-1404-trusty21:08
snarfithttp://artfulrobot.com/blog/whats-best-file-manager-ubuntu-gnome-1404-trusty: What's the best file manager for Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 Trusty? | artfulrobot.com21:08
daftykinsdiddledan: hmm, i'd just have the title and not a URL repeat personally21:09
zmoylan-piit's small light and didn't annoy me gebbione21:17
gebbioneis it easy to downgrade to 12?21:24
daftykinsdowngrades aren't supported21:25
gebbionenemo is on21:39
daftykinsi'm gonna guess you don't mean Finding Nemo on TV21:40
diddledannemo?22:26
daftykinsfile manager22:27
diddledanaah22:27
diddledanI figured the animated film, too22:39
daftykins:D22:39
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gebbionedaftykins, i feel so much better now, it is unbelievable how much rubbish nautilus is in this state, from my point of view of course22:58
daftykinsi think you're being a bit too dramatic about it22:59
daftykinsand i don't even run desktop Linux, so...22:59
gebbionenot at all, if you are running 14.04 suddenly stuff is really strange22:59
gebbioneat the moment nemo fixes some of the problems22:59
gebbionestill22:59
gebbionegnome windows in general are strange, for instance chrome you maximise/minimise from the left top when maximised or from the top right when not maximised23:01
gebbionethough you might think this is not major23:01
daftykinssimple case of running a non-native browser23:01
ali1234in preferences check "use native window controls" or w/e23:01
gebbionefrom UA it is really annoying23:02
daftykinsso configure it properly23:02
ali1234"Use system title bar and borders"23:02
daftykinsgebbione: none of these rants of yours are going to change anything by taking place in here, take them to where they belong23:02
ali1234alternatives, don't use chrome23:02
ali1234yes, go tell #gnome on irc.gnome.org23:02
gebbioneali1234,  i was using chromium but that is not supported anymore23:03
gebbionefirefox is too junky imho23:03
ali1234i don't think chrome has an irc channel. not one with developers in anyway23:03
gebbionedaftykins, for all these observations of mine there are open bugs/reports23:03
gebbionethey still mark them solved  despite complaints from users23:04
daftykinsare you the minority?23:04
ali1234yeah that's the point where i stopped using the software and started telling everyone not to use it23:04
daftykinsali1234: what did that happen with?23:05
ali1234unity23:07
ali1234bug 72997923:08
lubotu3bug 729979 in compiz (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] Windows appear blank white" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72997923:08
gebbionedaftykins, who is the majority of people that wants unresizable columns in windows listings?23:09
daftykinswhy are you asking me?23:09
gebbionebecause you are asking me if I am the minority23:10
ali1234people who report bugs are always the majority, because most people don't know how to23:10
ali1234i mean minority23:10
daftykinstalking to me about this isn't going to get you anywhere23:10
shaunoI've felt for a long time (and I may be wrong), that ubuntu's target demographic are people who don't, and probably won't use ubuntu23:10
gebbionedaftykins, from that point of view your replies will not really do much with you either but at least now from talking in this channel i have trashed nautilus from something uglier that does the job23:11
daftykinsgebbione: can you run that one by me in English?23:12
gebbioneno i am sure you ll get there somehow, walking, running or anywayyou prefer23:13
daftykins...23:13
daftykinsi'm saying your statement didn't make sense23:13
daftykins"your replies will not really do much with you either" 0o23:14
daftykinsnevermind, i'm gonna go do fun things like my physio23:14
gebbionethats exactly what i mean, while my comments here will not do much neither will you telling me that i should go to complaint somewhere else ... while really i was just asking your opinion from a UA point of view23:15
gebbionebut physio is fine23:16
gebbionei ll go too23:16
gebbionebut i am sure i ll be back with more23:16
gebbionebear with us daftykins23:16
gebbionebye for now and thanks for the suggestions23:16
daftykinsi do not like that user.23:16
ali1234what game invented the white -> green -> blue -> red -> purple -> orange level system?23:24
ali1234i suspect it might have been diablo?23:24
ali1234http://www.giantbomb.com/color-coded-loot/3015-4702/23:26
snarfithttp://www.giantbomb.com/color-coded-loot/3015-4702/: Color-Coded Loot (Concept) - Giant Bomb23:26
shaunotheir explanation of high levels having better stats than a lower-levelled better-coloured is .. clumsy23:34
shaunothey're usually just multipliers.  an item has a stat budget, which is a product of it's level, and then multiplied by it's tier/rarity/colour/whatever you want to call it23:37
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