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RoguehorseIs that part of some game?04:11
pleia2he's just a space cadet04:12
nhainesRoguehorse: Kerbal Space Program.  Which I'm sure your son would love.  You could play together and learn rocket science.  And also explosions.05:10
Roguehorsein the repos?05:15
pleia2what's the polite way to ask my overworked, about-to-leave-on-trip husband to set up the PS4 before he leaves for 2 weeks? (aisde from the obvious "I'll do it!" during which I'll mess up his perfect wiring configuration and give him an OCD attack)05:16
* pleia2 supposes there is no good way05:17
grantbowtough call05:17
RoguehorseUh, uh, uh05:17
pleia2haha05:17
* ianorlin doesn't know that05:18
nhainesRoguehorse: in that it's in Steam.05:18
Roguehorse"Honey, can you please....<something really nice> before you go?" (usually works on me)05:19
Roguehorsenhaines: Ah! eeew...I have to run steam...05:19
nhainespleia2: tell him not to worry about setting up the PS4 because you'll do it after you drop him off at the airport.  It'll be done by the morning.05:19
pleia2maybe I'll just put the PS4 box in his chair05:19
pleia2nhaines: hah, right, that's the obvious one :)05:20
nhainesRoguehorse: well, no, you can buy it directly from Squad and download updates by hand for the rest of your life.05:20
Roguehorsethat might work05:20
Roguehorsenhaines: f-that!05:20
pleia2he actually bought the PS4 for himself, but then I geeked out over Destiny and am all I WANT TO PLAAAAY05:21
RoguehorseI have Steam installed - and an account set up05:21
RoguehorseI just don't05:21
Roguehorseand he likes playing games on the tablet anyway - or YouTube on the tv05:21
pleia2tsk, my battery is running out, probably have go to back down into the hot condo05:22
RoguehorseI'll take a look though - thank you for the suggestion =)05:22
nhainesWell, it's a fun game by a really small developer and a really friendly community.  And now if you ask my friend's 8yo what the highest point of an orbit is he'll say "apoapsis".  :)05:22
RoguehorseLOL!05:23
pleia2also need to find food at a cold place this late05:23
pleia2IHOP has air conditioning, right?05:23
Roguehorsehttp://www.roguehorse.com/ComputerCenterHayward/IMG_20141002_140709_803.jpg05:23
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nhainesYou build your own rockets and launch them and control the staging, so it's half rocket sim and half explosion sim.  It doesn't take itself seriously.05:23
Roguehorsemy son would dig that05:24
nhainesPlus you can land on the moon which is super amazing.  I have a couple space stations built05:24
Roguehorsehe gets this weird excitement from watching people get hurt in games or tv05:24
nhainesLiving vicariously.05:25
Roguehorsedude, he watched a skateboarding game on YouTube and the player kept falling and breaking his neck - he thought it was hilarious05:26
Roguehorseit tweaks my mellon05:26
RoguehorseI asked the wife if she thought he might need therapy05:27
Roguehorseshe said it's normal for kids to laugh at that stuff05:27
nhainesNope.  Everyone laughs when somebody else gets hurt.  Little kids just don't have the filter to pretend it's not funny.05:27
nhainesBesides, a lot of time the physics are either overdone for effect or otherwise strange.  I used to like to smash cars in racing games to see the damage effects and funny physics.  Never had an urge to do it in real life.  :)05:28
RoguehorseI must be missing some kind of gene or something05:30
nhainesHalf the fun in a videogame is to do stuff you wouldn't or can't do in real life anyway.05:31
ianorlinyes that is true05:31
nhainesAlthough Euro Truck Simulator is oddly cathartic.05:36
Roguehorsemy sone likes Farming Sim 201305:39
RoguehorseI kind of dig the newest Sim City05:39
Roguehorsethis is all from YouTube05:40
nhainesMy friend's kid likes the Lego videogames.  Which are pretty fun.05:40
Roguehorseactually, I've been learning Python from CodeAcademy - it's ok, kinda fun05:40
nhainesI'm going to go pick up Super Smash Bros tomorrow.05:41
nhainesPython's nice.  :)05:41
Roguehorseslower than just doing from book05:41
RoguehorsePython is even simpler than Perl05:41
RoguehorseI see a lot of similarity05:41
nhainesI like Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland.  http://www.apress.com/978159059982205:43
darthrobotTitle: [Beginning Python]05:43
nhainesdarthrobot: I said that.05:43
darthrobotnhaines: Error: "I" is not a valid command.05:43
nhainesdarthrobot: that's because it's a pronoun.05:43
darthrobotnhaines: Error: "that's" is not a valid command.05:43
nhainesBots.  :P05:43
Roguehorsecan't teach em anything05:44
OERIASConceal me what I am, and be my aid For such disguise as happily shall become The form of my intent05:45
RoguehorseOERIAS: Hamlet?05:46
OERIASTwelfth Night05:46
OERIASSame author though :)05:46
nhainesRoguehorse: Twelfth Night.05:46
Roguehorselucky guess05:46
Roguehorseit is better to solve the right problem the wrong way than the wrong problem the right way05:52
OERIASI dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none.05:53
OERIAS^ Macbeth05:53
Roguehorse Doug McIlroy05:54
nhainesI bought a DVD of Teller's production of MacBeth that I need to watch.05:56
Roguehorsehttp://www.roguehorse.com/ComputerCenterHayward/IMG_20141002_140649_545.jpg05:57
OERIASRoguehorse, you certainly have a fascination with American Intellectuals05:57
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OERIASby far one the most important men in history of computing05:58
RoguehorseI do, what's interesting is these guys never knew how much their work would change everything - they just built what seemed the logical way to do things06:00
nhainesModern computing is built on a foundation that had nothing to do with modern uses.  :)06:01
RoguehorseIronic isn't it =)06:03
Roguehorsegotta roll - wife and son want me to come to bed - TTYL06:03
nhainesLater!06:03
nhainesThe crazy thing is that Microsoft was going to replace MS-DOS with Xenix.06:04
nhainesWhich is why they added pipes and redirection to the OS in 2.0.  But when the Bell companies split up and AT&T was able to sell Unix directly, Microsoft decided they couldn't compete and started working on OS/2 with IBM instead.06:05
nhainesAnd that's why everybody runs OS/2 now.06:10
RoguehorseMy dog sleeps in chairs - http://www.roguehorse.com/Bubba/IMG_20140921_150945_064.jpg06:15
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OERIASThey should have replaced MS-DOS with Xenix06:31
OERIASwould have created a whole new flavour of Unix06:31
OERIASInterface Manager06:32
OERIASnhaines, Chase and Bank of America still use OS/2 on their ABMs06:32
kdub_hey philipballew14:01
philipballewkdub_, hello. How goes life?14:19
kdub_pretty good14:25
philipballewkdub_, oh nice. Still in pb?14:30
kdub_no, moved to  michigan14:30
philipballewkdub_, Thats what I thought.14:31
philipballewBeing that I have not heard from you in a while.14:31
philipballewLife is good up there I hope?14:32
kdub_yeah, defected from CA :P14:32
philipballewMichigan is a cool place.14:32
kdub_yeah, found a house14:32
kdub_about to be a cold place in a month or two;)14:32
philipballewyeah, that seems pretty nice because SD is in the 70's too often.14:36
kdub_hah, yeah14:42
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