[06:00] morning ThatGraemeGuy and others [07:06] hmm... [08:13] grrrr [08:20] Maaz: define grrr [08:20] inetpro: I don't have a definition for that. Is it even a word? [08:21] good mornings Kilos [08:21] lol hi inetpro [08:22] Kilos: why imitating the growling sound of predatory animals? [08:22] because of this disconnecting thing without showing [08:22] ai! [08:22] and the need to replug modem [08:23] cold this morning [08:23] no goog disconnect reconnect with nm , you have to physically unplug it [08:23] ya eina cold [08:23] it an internal thing i think [08:25] don't you use that router thingymagic? [08:25] nope that has a auto disconnect thing that cups whenever im afk [08:26] Maaz grr [08:26] grrr is a growling sound normally made by predatory animals, but , also used by angry humans at times [08:28] starngely enough the disconnecting is worse on kde [08:28] strangly [08:28] ai! [08:28] strangely [08:29] maybe its a sign to stick with unity hehe [08:46] sell a sheep and get a proper router man [08:49] no man whats wrong with modem into pc? [08:49] i even got a new usb extension for it [08:50] so no bridge thing needed [08:50] Last time lightning nailed us the spike travelled alonf the lan cables, good enough reason for me to go wifi router [08:51] whew [08:51] at least now it will only fry router [08:51] cant wait for it to happen [08:51] my only physiacl connection is power [08:52] physical [08:52] crap huawei router [08:54] my router can work but its just that much more to worry about [08:55] on 10.10 it worked fine with the dhcp thingie [08:56] the pro always said get a decent modem [08:56] so i got one and battled to get it to work on 12.04 [08:57] on 14.04 it works so yay [08:57] now he wants me to buy a proper router [08:57] sigh [08:58] Kilos: how are your sheep doing this year? [08:59] got 2 lambs that seem to be growing well, but well see what bugs get them [08:59] havent had luck with sheep since that time when they stole half of them [08:59] hmm... [08:59] ewes are old now so only one is getting preggy [09:00] ai! [09:00] ya [09:06] Kilos: how old are they? [09:13] well one i brought up with me from natal [09:13] so must be 10 or more [09:13] i forget [09:14] we should eat them but then there are none walking around for inspectors to see then rates go up [09:15] those 7 they stole were all preggy ewes, just so someone had sheep for christmas [09:15] sjoe [09:16] Ouch! [09:16] thats maybe 3 years ago i think, so their lambs would be on their second lamb by now [09:17] we only got 3 ewes left now and one new lamb is a ewe [09:17] do they sleep in a building? [09:18] in a steel kraal with roof overhead [09:18] steel kinda mesh [09:19] but they broke into locked shed for all the copper they could find anyway [09:19] sheds [09:19] Eish! [09:19] nothing is safe [09:20] fraid not [09:20] all welder cables and extensions gone [09:21] That's SA, sad to say [09:22] what helps, is if your security is better than neighbours [09:22] but the main thief broke into the wrong house near here and a nervous wife put 2 bullets through his head [09:23] give that woman a Bell's :) [09:23] lol [09:23] so we have had 3 years of piece [09:24] or 2 [09:24] peace brother [09:24] i used to have to check boundary fences everyday because he used to just cut shorcuts evry night [09:25] oh ya that peace [09:26] put a continuity tester over one strand, then at least you can check without walking the fence every day [09:27] nope man its doring draad [09:27] and that bonnex fencing [09:27] doring draad conducts [09:28] over 6 ft high around here where the kraal is too but that didnt stop them [09:28] ya but then you need insulators by all ysterpale and droppers [09:29] otherwise the one upcut strand will still give a reading [09:30] yep, you're right [09:33] i did electric fencing on a 2500 hectare farm near rustenburg [09:34] used the same as used for elephants but they still worked their way in [09:34] they just short them out [09:41] same as with car theft, half of them work with the firms that install all the security stuff so know the workarounds [09:44] hi gremble [09:55] haha inetpro just saw this http://is.gd/xbw3yO [09:56] iburts offering that with the same router as mine [09:57] iburst [09:59] * inetpro tried it long ago [09:59] not worth it [09:59] lol [09:59] at least not here [10:00] ya man the point is its the same router [10:03] if their network was reliable and reception was good it would be a good deal [10:03] eish more eskom price hikes next year [10:03] 12.4% up [10:04] hey Kilos [10:04] oops 12.7 % [10:06] all prices just keep going up but salaries stay low [10:06] don't know how people survive [10:06] met moete [10:06] moeite [10:10] brown bread was less than R3.00 in 2000 now in 2014 is above R10.00 [10:11] inet heh be bankful you dont love in Kenya if you think things are expensive in za [10:12] salaries here are typically lower, and prices are typically way way way higher [10:12] eish! [10:12] (put it this way, if Im wanting to shop for a lot of clothes and other items, its cheaper for me to fly to south africa with 2 large empty suitcases, fill them up and fly back) [10:13] that's crazy [10:13] heh, there are two types of food in kenya in terms of cost, your kinda staple items (chicken, beef, goat) and bread and milk, that stuff isn't that bad [10:13] but if you want anything considered a "luxury" good luck, a tub of icecream here costs 1200 kenya shillings [10:14] which is about 150 bux for 2 litres of ice cream [10:14] want a cocktail in a bar? cost you anywhere from R65 - R100 for a cocktail [10:14] sjoe [10:15] and haha, rent prices and property prices in kenya make parts of capetown look cheap [10:16] by rent here for the house I stay in costs R38k ZAR a month, and believe me, I aint at the very high end of the market, thats kinda, mid to high end range [10:16] wanna buy in a good area? you're looking at a starting price of around 8 to 10 million ZAR [10:16] what's the price of bread? [10:17] hrm, probably about 100 - 150 shillings (so between 13 and 20 bux dependant on where) [10:18] if my fiance and I go shopping for groceries which typically last 3 to 4 weeks, we're looking at a minimum of around 4 thousand rand [10:20] obviously what you earn is not what the average guy on the street earns [10:20] I have no idea how people who are clearing after tax anywhere under around 30 thousand rand a month survive here [10:20] no, nowhere close, and I have no idea how they make ends meet [10:21] heh my electricity bill alone last month came to 2.7k ZAR [10:22] Cost of Living in Kenya http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Kenya [10:23] Meal for 2, Mid-range Restaurant, Three-course 2,000.00 KSh <=== hahahaha what fucking resturant is that :P maybe outside of Nairobi [10:23] but sure as hell not in nairobi [10:24] heh those prices may reflect nakuru or diani or lamu [10:24] but they sure as hell do not reflect Nairobi at all [10:24] 1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) 3,128.82 KSh <=== and that is crap, I bought a pair of levi's here the other day, they cost 8k not 3.1k ;p [10:25] Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 89,535.29 KSh <=== and no way in hell are you finding a 3 bedroom apartment in nairobi city centre for that, triple that maybe, you'll get that kinda price at the coast or in other towns, but NOT in nairobi [10:25] select your city [10:26] interesting database [10:27] yeah but those prices for nairobi when I looked also dont reflect much reality [10:27] Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 100,864.29 KSh [10:27] you MAY be able to get something for that [10:27] but it aint gonna be anything special [10:28] and even that, convert that to rands [10:28] thats 13k a month for an apartment [10:28] my rent for a 3 bedroom apartment in capetown was like, half that in rondebosch ;p [10:29] I see you can edit and add your own pricing [10:30] heh, look at the properly buy prices though there [10:31] price per square meter to buy = 14.5k a square meter [10:31] an average 3 bedroom apartment is what, 50 squares? [10:31] so 725 thousand for a 3 bedroom (tiny) apartment [10:34] heh inetpro [10:34] look at this: [10:34] http://www.hellofood.co.ke/restaurant/k0ea/big-square-lavington [10:35] divide by 8 to get approximate rand price [10:35] so 50 to 60 bux for a burger [10:36] single rack of ribs in a resturant (and you need 2 racks to be full) costs you R105, so double that if you want a decent meal [10:36] not far off from here [10:37] my local is R95 for a full rack that you can finish if you're really hungry and skip starters [10:37] you can't even get a burger in a restaurant below R60 these days [10:38] depends where you go, place around the corner from me has burger specials on monday and tuesday, R50 for 2 burgers with chips, and they're decent burgers too [10:40] * inetpro hungry now [10:40] heh I had an engagement party the other day [10:41] and because the girlfriend does events etc for a living, we had the thing catered for a heavily discounted price [10:41] still cost R5500 for the food for 30 people [10:41] (no booze) [10:44] the only advantage of kenya is that in terms of internet access [10:44] we're so far ahead of za here its not even a joke [10:44] we're launching 40meg completely uncapped for under a thousand zar a month [11:20] Symmetria: south africa is something you want to compare to in any case [11:20] *not [11:21] it's one of the worst connected countries in the semi-developed world [12:58] uncle Kilos ... BIG game later... [12:59] yip nlsthzn and im watching cheetahs/wp atm [13:00] did the sharks play yesterday nl? [13:00] ah k... [13:00] nlsthzn [13:00] yes they played lions [13:00] score? [13:01] I am vanging gees here on my lonesome [13:01] i didnt even look [13:01] lol [13:01] the sharks just won... not sure of score [13:01] just won is good enough for me [13:01] :) [13:01] ty for thet info [13:01] bulls smashed puma's so I am happy [13:01] yay [13:01] hope duan is fit to play... [13:02] oh havent they announced yet on his condition [13:02] been talk of it all week in the news [13:02] but final decide is just before match i spose [13:03] as far as I can see [13:03] we need thor :) [13:04] we need something [13:04] havent beaten them for a long time now [13:05] i go fetch sheep so i can park in game time [13:06] k, :) [13:08] one song I am trying to get and it seems I will have to buy a six disc set to get it >.< - tata tata haka haka by leon schuster [13:11] lol [14:16] http://gadling.com/2013/09/10/australian-pig-steals-beer :D [15:30] Kilos, this refs mom was a man [15:30] lol [15:50] comments uncle Kilos ? [15:58] at least we ahead at half time [15:58] speechless uncle Kilos ? [15:58] :p [15:58] ah there you are :D [15:58] my boet is just leaving, last visit, tomorrow flys to dubai [15:58] at least ahead... I have a good feeling about this game... ellis park last 20 always in our favour [15:58] tell boet his timing sucks [15:58] lol [16:00] but we are playing much better nlsthzn [16:00] yup :D [16:00] i didnt understans some of the refs decision but ya [16:00] understand [16:01] tara is jumping for joy [16:06] oh my [16:06] boks are alive today [16:15] pale toe [16:15] duan doing well nlsthzn [16:23] bokke! :d [16:25] this fkn reff [16:25] and tmo [16:39] eish [16:40] I dunno [16:40] >.< [16:40] something has gone wrong with the changes [16:41] someone not pulling his weight [16:54] lambie [16:54] great kick [16:55] very tense ending [16:56] :D [16:57] at last [17:05] hi smile [17:05] hi :) [17:05] and good evening to everyone [17:05] since when does chatzilla support notifications? :o [17:05] can't believe we faded at the end... [17:05] that is what cost the aussies last week-end [17:05] ya [17:05] since the bokke won [17:05] :p [17:05] smile: do you like house music [17:06] hi charl smile [17:06] hi Kilos :) [17:06] charl: not particulary :p [17:07] ate a great pasta tonight, italian durum wheat pasta with basil pesto, rucola, olive oil and hemp seed [17:07] i should do this more often [17:08] smile: is house also popular in belgium as it is in NL ? [17:08] it's the only good music that ever came out of NL, traditional dutch music is HORRIBLY bad [17:08] cringeworthy at best [17:08] lol [17:08] I don't think it is over here, charl :p [17:08] ah interesting [17:09] what do belgians listen to ? [17:10] http://q-music.be/ or http://mnm.be/ or http://www.stubru.be/ ;) [17:10] ok i need to listen to it [17:10] btw, i've been to antwerpen again last week [17:11] without notice? :o [17:11] yeah it was impromptu [17:11] it's been almost two years [17:11] but i ate really good waffles [17:11] * smile is jealous now [17:11] i also went to the waffle factory and had a three cheeses waffle [17:11] which factory? :p [17:11] lemme get the link [17:12] http://www.wafflefactory.com/EN/produit/1/The-LunchWAF [17:13] i had the "3 fromages" i think [17:14] there is a big church with a tall tower and it was right next to it [17:14] brb [17:16] nice, nice ;) [17:24] back [17:25] are you going to any conferences the coming season ? fosdem / 21c3 etc? [17:27] *31c3 i mean [17:31] charl: nope :p [17:33] i really do want to go to fosdem [17:33] i'm thinking of 31c3 too because it's close for me [17:33] hamburg is about 2 hours on the train i think [17:36] nah it's a bit longer i see, 3 hours [17:45] brussels! :p [17:46] when is fosdem :p [17:46] watching a wedding being live streamed :p [17:46] http://www.twitch.tv/lagtvmaximusblack [17:46] :p [18:24] smile: yeah it's close for you, it's february sometime [18:24] i want to try and organise it with my work where more of us go [18:24] it's a free event, train tickets are not that expensive [18:24] it's just the issue of a hotel, unless we do a classic "bliksembezoek" and do it in a day [18:24] leave early morning and come back on the train in the evening [18:24] charl: I want to be at fosdem if I can, but I don't know yet [18:24] february is a long time :p [18:24] but then we can only do the one or the other day, not both probably [18:25] ah 31 january and 1 february [18:25] saturday and sunday [18:32] Don't know yet about exams :p [18:34] night all. sleep tight [18:47] bye! :)