[00:29] <BuntuTech> might be bad poer supply too
[00:29] <BuntuTech> power
[18:52] <]Spectre[> hello
[18:52] <holstein> o/
[18:52] <]Spectre[> hi holstein
[18:52] <]Spectre[> todos bien ? :)
[18:53] <holstein> i only speak english..
[18:53] <holstein> !es
[18:54] <]Spectre[> holstein, I also :)
[18:54] <zy3pD> ]Spectre[, tienes una pregunta?
[18:54] <]Spectre[> hi zy3pD  ;)
[18:54] <]Spectre[> falo em italiano e portugues
[18:54] <zy3pD> hi ]Spectre[
[18:54] <]Spectre[> nao espanhol :PPP
[18:55] <]Spectre[> mas entendo
[18:55] <]Spectre[> no zy3pD  :)
[18:55] <holstein> !it
[18:56] <zy3pD> !whatever-language
[18:57] <]Spectre[> ahahah :PPPPPPPPPP
[18:57] <]Spectre[> prefiro falar em ingles
[18:57] <holstein> ]Spectre[: how can we volunteer support for you, in english, friend?
[18:58] <holstein> ]Spectre[: if you need another language, please see the above links.. thanks
[18:58] <]Spectre[> english is good
[18:58] <]Spectre[> thanks :)
[18:59] <zy3pD> and really nobody will call this talk offtopic
[19:01] <]Spectre[> .DDDDDD
[19:03] <]Spectre[> que estranho
[19:05] <holstein> ]Spectre[: friend, please let us know if you have a support question, and a volunteer will do their best to assist.. its not that english "is good", its that this is an english speaking channel. please refer to the links i gave if you need other languages.. thanks
[19:05] <]Spectre[> just joking holstein
[19:06] <holstein> !ot | ]Spectre[
[19:11] <zy3pD> !to
[19:14] <zy3pD> come on ubottu tovalu?
[19:47] <markus__> hey guys, i am currently on Ubuntu 14.10 with LXDE, i have plugged in a second monitor, everything works just fine except one thing. The second monitor seems to be the primary one, all notifications are popping up there, including the shutdown menu. I there a way to get the notifications and stuff pop up at the first monitor?
[19:50] <holstein> !14.10
[19:51] <holstein> though, you may find some "dual head" management for LXDE or lubuntu relevant..
[19:53] <markus__> ok i will try my luck there, thanks for the hint, but i guess this isnt only a "ubuntu 14.10" thing. I remember a couple of years ago i had the same "problem" with lxde and dual monitors
[19:53] <zy3pD> is 14.10 already based on gt?
[19:54] <zy3pD> *qt
[19:54] <ianorlin> it is still based on gtk+
[19:54] <zy3pD> and when will come the change? 15.04?
[19:55] <phillw> zy3pD: it is planned
[19:56] <phillw> zy3pD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/14.10
[19:57] <zy3pD> thx
[19:58] <phillw> markus__: lubuntu offers basic dual screen support, if you want further control then grab https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/MultiDisplay
[19:59] <phillw> zy3pD: you're more than welcome
[20:01] <markus__> i already read that phillw, but thats just the "basic stuff", dont solve my problem
[20:02] <phillw> markus__: xrandr is script driven... arandr is an app that does more, but obviously needs more resources. lubuntu can, by default, mirror a screen and xrandr can be adjusted to do things... But.... arandr does make it easier
[20:02] <phillw> markus__: what is the problem?
[20:02] <ianorlin> markus if you swtich where the displays are positioined does it change
[20:02] <ianorlin> he wants the panel on the other monitor
[20:03] <testdr> markus: do you have nvidia-graka-chipset and proprietary-driver?
[20:03] <markus__> Basicly i did this: xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --primary --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1, but the shutdown menu and every other notification still throws up at the second monitor
[20:04] <markus__> i have a integrated intel card in my notebook
[20:20] <phillw> markus__: has that wiki page not answered your question?
[20:22] <markus__> no phillw, that page just shows how to setup dual monitor, but it dont show what to do if i all notifications thrown up on the second monitor
[20:22] <testdr> markus__: what is your monitor setup? One screen over both - laptop-monitor on left and extern monitor on right?
[20:25] <testdr> markus:did you check the openbox settings? Like "new windows on screen with active mouse" up to special selsected screen? Or set some part of x11-screen for not using as automatic place for new windows etc.?
[20:25] <markus__> my laptop-monitor is the main screen and on the right of it the extended desktop, so that i just have to move the mouse to the right to use the space on the second monitor
[20:29] <testdr> markus__: have you ever changed the openbox settings?
[20:31] <markus__> i dont think so, at least i did not see a setting like that
[20:32] <testdr> markus__: check menu --> settings(einstellungen) --> openbox configmanager (openbox konfiguration manager)
[20:34] <markus__> oh dude so simple, i didnt even knew that there was an openbox configmanager. There is a option "new windows place to" and it was set to all monitors, now i changed it to "primary monitor" and it works fine instantly
[20:35] <testdr> markus__: da sind noch mehr dinge zum rumspielen/konfigurieren
[20:36] <silverlion> hey endlich mal deutsche Lubuntianer :D
[20:37] <markus__> ja cool, wusste garnicht das lxde so einen manager hat. Bin mir auch ziemlich sicher in meiner google suche nichts davon gelesen zu haben. Danke testdr
[20:38] <testdr> markus__: up to now the basic windowmanager for LXDE is openbox - there are a lot of infos for it and it is not necessary to use LXDE (but this ist the default configuration for usage).
[20:39] <testdr> i like this page about the comparison of linux/unix windowmanagers:  http://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/a-memory-comparison-of-light-linux-desktops-part-2/
[20:43] <markus__> oh yes there are a lot environments, even E17. I have installed E19 but to me it has a couple too much bugs for daily use
[20:44] <silverlion> I'm running the basic LXDE Version on my Laptop but Lubuntu Default version on the Desktop
[20:49] <markus__> alright, thanks for the help testdr, i leave now. Have a nice day
[21:03]  * ianorlin wonders if others would find my way to make a keyboard shortcut for multimonitor be useful using openbox and should be added to the wiki
[21:03] <BuntuTech> good afternoon lubuntu technicians
[21:05] <BuntuTech> ianorlin, could u make it so that lubuntu has a typical right click change wallpaper feature?
[21:06] <ianorlin> it does if you don't use the openbox menu
[21:06] <ianorlin> also what do you mean by typical
[21:06] <ianorlin> or are you talking about changing wallpapers on multi monitors
[21:10] <ravious> speaking of multi monitors.. i've been using ARandR to set my configuration, but I have to apply it at every boot.. anyone know how to make the change persistent?
[21:13] <testdr> ravious: check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution    different ways to activate the settings in .xprofile, or systemwide in xorg.conf
[21:14] <ravious> ty, i'll look into it.
[21:14] <ianorlin> ravious I think I know an easier way if you have arandr installed
[21:14] <ravious> okay
[21:15] <testdr> ravious: you can even use a shell-script if you dont want to do it automatically -- you have to run it by hand to enable the settings you want and did write down
[21:15] <ianorlin> first there is a command line tool that comes with arnadr called unxrandr that will give oyu the command after you set it up
[21:15] <ianorlin> also there is an entry in default apps for lxsession for an xrandr commaond that if you use lxde can just put in that
[21:16] <ravious> I've got the layout i need saved in ~/.screenlayout
[21:16] <ravious> its an sh file