[00:39] ahayzen, does jounih ever come to irc? [00:39] akiva-thinkpad, yep sometimes [00:42] cool [00:56] alright time to resize my partition [00:56] be back in a bit [00:56] akiva-thinkpad, oh boy don't die on us! [00:57] vthompson, heh :P darn emulators are much larger than I could have imagined. [01:39] hopefully another ten gigs is enough [01:45] vthompson, do you know jounihs email? [02:06] this is frustrating [02:06] ahoneybun, do you know how to get the emulator to work [02:06] ? [02:06] In the Ubuntu SDK, open the Devices tab and its Device Actions sub tab (at the bottom)." [02:07] there is no device actions sub tab at the bottom. [02:07] akiva-thinkpad, I have not looked lately [02:07] let me check [02:08] well my device is a old one [02:08] 20140821 [02:08] * akiva-thinkpad is filing a bug [02:11] looks like it might launch [02:11] ah wait I read that wrong [02:11] ahoneybun, hold on; I think that was me misreading something [02:14] * ahoneybun updates his emulator and ubuntu-beginner on lp [02:18] nevermind; I wasnt misreading [02:18] * akiva-thinkpad filed a bug [02:25] * ahoneybun is a bit sleepy [03:11] hey kurt_ [03:12] hello [03:12] how are you [03:13] pretty good [03:14] * ahoneybun thinks Ubuntu Beginner is almost ready for release [03:14] ? [03:14] your second app? [03:15] yea [03:15] just needs a icon [03:18] can't think of what it should be yet [03:18] oh maybe like a book [03:19] ? thought it was done [03:19] except the icon [03:19] yea the icon would be a book [03:19] what do you use to make the icon gimp? [03:19] no [03:19] oh lol gottcha [03:19] its svg [03:20] so you would use a vector graphics application like inkscape [03:20] so it scales. [03:20] I use gimp [03:20] oh yea forgot gimp isnt vector [03:21] make it 512by512 [03:21] and then resize [03:21] slace [03:21] ahoneybun, thats the bad way of doing it. [03:21] scale [03:21] but easy :P [03:21] thinkpad!!!!! didn't realize it was you!! [03:21] * ahoneybun has not used inkscape [03:21] if you scale it; it will be pixelated. [03:21] how are you doing [03:21] kurt_, eh?! [03:21] blanking out here [03:21] reddit? [03:22] haha been all over reddit lately [03:22] i like the ubuntu touch redgur app alot [03:22] now I feel terrible; because you were so nice to me, and yet I can't place where I know you. [03:22] i have a buddie that works for the yello pages and he was explaining the whole vector image thing to me. [03:23] you walked me through adding C++ to my QML three maybe four days ago [03:23] yah its pretty interesting. [03:23] ah [03:23] right [03:23] talked me up to you laptop died lol [03:23] okay lol [03:23] bad memory [03:23] yah :P [03:24] tbf, I have been doing all nighters lately [03:24] so do I and I'm sure you have to help many on here [03:24] heh; my pleasure. [03:26] I still havent got my app working, trying to port a sailfish qml example app to ubuntu touch, i added my .cpp and .h file and I can run everything the world tab stops working after i try to add anything to the world tab (using the extension able library + simple tabbed ui) [03:27] mind looking at some pastebin shots? [03:27] yah I'm building a kit at the moment, so I have time until it finishes [03:28] kurt_, so sure [03:28] oh ya just tell me when your busy again [03:28] kurt_, oh lol; it just finished; I'm busy again [03:28] took like 30 minutes :P [03:29] oh your fine but ill pick your brain when I can haha [03:29] paste them anyways if they are small [03:30] akiva-thinkpad, kurt_ http://imgur.com/QNPCDcy [03:31] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8497185/ [03:31] ha i really like it! [03:32] simple and the ovals make the binding Nice! [03:33] * ahoneybun needs to add translations tags to Ubuntu Beginner [03:34] ahoneybun, btw; might want to check the style guidelines [03:34] they probably have a section on icons [03:34] but nice;clever design [03:34] I see [03:34] * ahoneybun google it and got a general idea [03:35] not as good as the one I saw [03:35] kurt_, what you can do also, is push this to a branch, so I can run it [03:35] kurt_, do you know how to do that yet? [03:35] no but I can google it and get back to you when I find it out [03:36] so you can keep building [03:36] kurt_, im building again [03:36] kurt_, download bazaar explorer [03:36] that would be so amazing and I didn't know we could do that lol [03:36] any certain version or PPA [03:36] or just out of the app store? [03:37] ppas are a bit different [03:37] that requires you to build a package [03:37] sorry software center [03:37] * ahoneybun started using bzr command line [03:37] i thought they were just repos [03:37] yah you need to build a package for that sort of thing [03:37] maybe some day [03:38] kurt_, do you have a launchpad page? [03:38] account* [03:38] ? [03:39] I think I may ill check [03:39] downloading bzr-explorer now [03:39] kurt_, cool [03:39] this is scm; you need to learn this for programming [03:40] kurt_, thanks for showing your code I forgot to at i18n.tr to my text! [03:40] it will be hard at first [03:40] and then it will be extremely useful [03:40] ya its for internationalization isnt it [03:40] im a bad speller haha [03:40] yep [03:41] okay my ubuntu one account connected with launch pad so im signed in now [03:43] and your welcome most of the code was from the normal ubuntu example and I just tried to add a button that uses my C++ library [03:44] so what is scm is bazzar for version control? [03:45] hi guys [03:47] hey [03:47] welcom [03:47] e [03:48] hi im new at this [03:48] so can i ask questions at here? [03:49] kurt_, good question [03:49] noobdev, yes [03:49] i know some python that i learned at codeacademy , studying basic java at my university [03:49] is qml/js(js learned some at codeacademy too) [03:50] kurt_, make sure you say my name so I am notified when you say something to me :P [03:50] bleh; java :P [03:50] easy to understand? and where can i find some tutorials [03:50] ah still getting the etiquette down akiva-thinkpad [03:50] noobdev, qml is actually extremely intuitive. I think the best practice is from working with it [03:50] LOL , well to me its really easy to make some little software with JOption like the most ui part [03:51] noobdev, when you open the sdk [03:51] err [03:51] yeah im reading the documentation at qt-project.org some tutorial to phones [03:51] noobdev, you do have the sdk installed right? [03:51] yep im writing this from it [03:51] noobdev are you on ubuntu? [03:51] noobdev, okay [03:51] linux mint [03:51] noobdev, are you on ubuntu? [03:51] noobdev, oh... [03:51] okay haha same deal [03:52] is that bad? XD [03:52] * akiva-thinkpad thinks unity is better for programming, because of the hud [03:52] ^ thats my oh comment [03:52] anyways, a lot of people like mint, I just think you can be more productive on unity [03:52] anyways [03:52] for example [03:52] if you were on unity, I would have just told you to [03:53] press left alt, type "showcase" [03:53] on mint... well now I have to find it... [03:53] damn it XD lol sorry [03:53] noobdev, no prob [03:53] in your menu [03:53] go to Tools>ubuntu>showcase gallery [03:54] got it [03:54] noobdev, the hud allows you to execute menu commands through search, so its really useful that way [03:55] wheres the search? [03:55] type to locate? ctrl+k [03:55] noobdev, on unity :) [03:56] which is only on ubuntu. [03:56] owww i understand now i think im going to install it, and i have a little trouble with my amd card well this is a laptop a6-3420 (6520g) + 6470m with private drivers i cant run the emulator [03:57] kurt_, anyways bazaar and launchpad allows you to host your code. Think of it as "Code" in the cloud [03:57] i need radeon to run it [03:57] ubuntu is probably your best bet for stability [03:57] grab 14.10 though if you plan on developing. It will be a little less stable, but it will be easier to get software and that stuff [03:58] because mir? [03:58] noobdev, good question; nope :P [03:58] thought of trying 14.10 and downloaded ubuntu next [03:59] just because the libraries are the latest [03:59] constantly being updated. [04:00] is ubuntu next going to be the eventual default [04:00] with the universal code base for phones and comp [04:00] kurt_, Don't know; you should ask on askubuntu [04:00] ubuntu desktop next == ubuntu 14.10? [04:00] no [04:00] its just a version of it [04:01] just like server is a different version [04:01] but its based on 14.10 rigth? [04:01] ya [04:02] 14.10 was the first time i heard of ubuntu-next [04:02] ive been using ubuntu since 10.04 [04:03] akiva-thinkpad, so host the code then get back with you? [04:03] kurt_, yep [04:04] just cd into your project folder [04:04] and go [04:04] or rather open it with bzr explorer [04:04] commit the changes you made [04:04] and then push it to a project page that you created from the website. [04:05] command not found [04:05] do i need anything besides bzr-explorer [04:06] sorry ignore the terminal [04:06] just open it from the dash [04:06] oh haha [04:06] my bad [04:06] I'm a bit scatter brained at the moment. [04:07] virtual repository? [04:07] hmm? [04:07] tried to open it and it said its not already a branch and i see no add button [04:08] oh start new project [04:08] lol found it [04:08] kurt_, okay [04:08] little scattered myself [04:08] alternatively when you create a new project on the sdk, you can choose bzr as a backend [04:09] start as shared repository or plain branch [04:13] i remember that i readed some at google something about 14.10 its going to be the last six month release and from here to the future it will be rolling release like archlinux [04:14] akiva-thinkpad, started a feature branch think the program is still thinking [04:15] noobdev, mmmmm havn't heard that [04:15] i've heard it tossed around [04:15] but nothing in stone [04:15] kurt_, mmmmm don't know [04:15] i think it may be stuck [04:15] so theres going to be more 6 month release? [04:15] * akiva-thinkpad wishes he had his full faculties with him. [04:15] noobdev, i believe so. [04:16] okay im at a screen that says trunk [04:16] ah [04:16] so trunk is where you want to be [04:16] its what you have authority to upload to [04:16] now its easy [04:17] see the lp: address? [04:17] lp:my-app [04:17] no [04:17] should be at the top [04:17] or when you click code [04:17] it should say [04:18] i see no code or files do I add them [04:18] i pointed it to the folder with the project files in it [04:18] yes, from bzr, but not using the website. [04:18] damn i have a situation in here look at this http://imgur.com/YBWeXMQ [04:19] ya im in the app i just didnt know i had to add the files after pointing the folder one sec [04:19] kurt_, heres an example [04:19] https://code.launchpad.net/~akiva/dominion.linux/trunk [04:19] i just solve it never mind [04:19] noobdev, glad I could help :p [04:20] was just alt and click [04:20] well akiva-thinkpad which videocard u have? [04:20] noobdev, I always go with intel these days [04:21] noobdev, more responsive; better with battery life; not a jerk to the linux kernel team. [04:21] wow i found a python file at test [04:22] akiva-thinkpad i dont see that in bzr-explorer just looks like the site [04:22] are u on ubuuntu 14.04? [04:22] noobdev, 14.10 [04:22] final beta [04:23] kurt_, download shutter. [04:23] and take a screenshot of the desktop, and in the hud, type "export" [04:23] it will upload it to the web (choose imgur if you can) [04:24] and then I can see; its easy and quick to use [04:24] i think i got it [04:24] i added the files to thr trunk folder it added [04:24] got this error bzr: ERROR: Unable to determine your name. [04:24] Please, set your name with the 'whoami' command. [04:24] E.g. bzr whoami "Your Name " [04:24] kurt_, yah go to the preferences [04:24] or do that in in the terminal [04:25] i logged in with my ubuntu credintials [04:25] oh btw, you need an ssh key [04:25] No executable specified. at running some short tutorial [04:25] like fingerprint [04:25] this prevents me from uploading to your branch under your name. [04:25] *while [04:27] do I need to commit now? [04:27] or get the ssh key? [04:27] I have used ssh alot at home but never needed a key [04:27] kurt_, go to your user page [04:27] on launchpad [04:27] and add an ssh key [04:27] it will tell you how to do it. [04:28] noobdev, whats your issue? [04:29] when i run the app with ctrl r it show me no executable specified [04:30] noobdev, in the sdk? [04:30] yup [04:30] what kind of app? [04:30] python? [04:30] qml [04:30] qml; okay [04:30] how did you create the application? [04:30] file new project [04:31] ubuntu ui the first one [04:31] sec [04:31] and http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/tutorial/building_your_first_qml_app/ [04:31] are you on ubuntu? [04:31] just copy and paste of the first part , im at mint [04:32] don't bother with this tutorial; just create a template application [04:32] i mean, bother with it, but only after you got a template running [04:32] the templates should run out of the box [04:32] if its not running, then you have to set your build and run environments [04:32] which can be tough if you don't know what you are doing [04:32] what template application mean? [04:33] noobdev, i'll show you, sec [04:34] akiva-thinkpad, i have a public key added [04:34] noobdev, http://imgur.com/Y0xYraJ [04:35] kurt_, okay it should work now [04:35] it will ask you for the password you gave it [04:35] so don't confuse it your system password (assuming its different) [04:35] kurt_, have you committed the changes? [04:36] i just did that and still the same i cant run the default example [04:36] it says no changes selected [04:37] kurt_, did you add files to the project? [04:37] i'll post a screenie what it should look like [04:37] commited rev1 [04:38] I'm excited now!!!! lol [04:38] im going to download shutter as well [04:38] http://imgur.com/MijZAfw [04:38] kurt_, [04:38] kurt_, so after you commit [04:38] then you push to your branch or trunk [04:38] trunk as in tree trunk [04:39] and branch as in, stemming from that trunk [04:40] okay thats done [04:40] kurt_, you push it ? [04:41] ya [04:41] kurt_, in fire fox, I suggest you add these bookmarks: http://imgur.com/WRtFRvm [04:41] makes it easy to visit [04:42] book mark the branches? [04:45] but i dont see my code under the code section [04:45] kurt_, hmmm maybe that only shows up for branches [04:45] not trunks [04:46] kurt_, anyways heres how to make a branch [04:46] instead of pushing to lp:my-app [04:46] well [04:46] push to lp:~myusername/my-app/my-branch-name [04:46] bye im leaving to sleep and need to think if i need to finish my dual boot and make a hdd entire instalation with ubuntu 14.10 [04:47] do i just make a branch name [04:48] thanks akiva , and the last question for today are u using just ubuntu and zero dual boot at ur main pc? [04:52] says it cant find the project but im useing the same name [04:54] kurt_, whats your project page? [04:55] on launchpad [04:55] yes [04:56] ill branch to you [04:56] so you can see how it works. [04:58] akiva-thinkpad, so I start the project on launchpad the use bzr-explorer to transfer it to launchpad [04:59] yes [04:59] create new project on launchpad [04:59] sorry if I was unclear, again; scatterbrained [05:06] akiva-thinkpad, https://launchpad.net/4track [05:06] kurt_, ah okay [05:06] so [05:06] you need to push to lp:4Track [05:07] kurt_, oh first configure this though [05:07] it should be on the right hand side [05:08] configure what? [05:08] on launchpad? [05:09] ah i see configuration process on the launchpad site on the right hand side [05:10] yes [05:10] * akiva-thinkpad buys steeped tea [05:10] feels slightly better [05:13] akiva-thinkpad, push didnt like lp:4Track [05:13] said invaild url [05:13] kurt_, have you configured it yet? [05:13] sec [05:13] checks [05:14] oh ya do i configure the bug tracker and everything or just certian things [05:14] everything [05:14] set everything to launchpa [05:14] d [05:18] You can push the branch directly to Launchpad with the command:bzr push lp:~ignitiongtown/4track/trunk tried this [05:19] bzr push lp:lp:~ignitiongtown/4track/trunk [05:19] err [05:19] bzr push lp:~ignitiongtown/4track/trunk [05:19] heh; i am learning a few things here :P [05:19] I feel bad for giving you some bad advice [05:19] ah swell [05:19] scatter brained [05:20] that is my excuse [05:20] all cool [05:21] thanks for the step by step help lol [05:21] it could have been better [05:21] as said; its hard at first [05:21] but it becomes easy [05:21] says location is a repository [05:21] i must have messed something up [05:21] * akiva-thinkpad is joining your team [05:21] so I can push [05:22] sec [05:22] *needs all the help he can get [05:22] kurt_, create a team for this app :P [05:23] i saw that but cant find it now [05:25] found it i think [05:25] https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam [05:28] its active and no auth for approval [05:28] akiv-thinkpad, https://launchpad.net/~4track [05:29] cool [05:30] kurt_, done. [05:30] sweet [05:31] kurt_, http://i.imgur.com/ouKjyVc.png [05:32] do you need permissions [05:32] nope; open team :P [05:32] oh so that could end up a bad thing......if i dont know the people? [05:33] akiva-thinkpad, what do I do now [05:34] ah its coming back to me now [05:34] okay [05:34] so step 1 [05:34] push branch to launchpad under your name [05:34] step 2 [05:34] set that branch that you pushed as the project trunk [05:34] go to the main page for the project [05:35] kurt_, wait [05:36] you still havnt finished configuring it :P [05:36]