| Jeeves_Moss | I think that after upgrading Bind9 through the Ubuntu repos, it's broken something. what would cause the server not to report when pinging a domain? Some of the domains work, some do not. All the configs are copied from known working ones | 00:10 |
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| droidbuster | I was upgrading my server from 10 whatever to 12.04 and somehow when i read the details on a version to replace i didnt exit the changelog in text editor. so i accidently exited the upgrade midway through. i am only able to login to recovery and all the commands i have tried result in telling me i need to run sudo dpkg --configure -a | 04:51 |
| droidbuster | however i get an error dpkg error unable to access dpkg status area Read only... wtf | 04:51 |
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| Joe_Spencer | hello | 08:01 |
| Sachiru | Yes? | 08:11 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:19 |
| Joe_Spencer | morning | 08:20 |
| ApplesInArrays | I have a few extra computers here and I'm thinking of installing Ubuntu Server Edition 14.04LTS to one of them via USB | 08:33 |
| ApplesInArrays | I keep getting "Boot Error' after selecting the USB, though. | 08:33 |
| lordievader | ApplesInArrays: How did you create the live-usb? | 08:33 |
| ApplesInArrays | Universal USB Installer | 08:33 |
| ApplesInArrays | The USB works on the machine I'm using now, but not another one. | 08:34 |
| lordievader | Does it happen to be a UEFI machine? | 08:34 |
| ApplesInArrays | Let me see how I check | 08:35 |
| ApplesInArrays | I remember seeing EFI files when I ooted it on this computer. | 08:35 |
| ApplesInArrays | It has a BIOS | 08:35 |
| lordievader | Hmm, try recreating the live-usb with unetbootin. That program usually works ;) | 08:36 |
| ApplesInArrays | I have that too | 08:37 |
| ApplesInArrays | I'll try again. | 08:37 |
| ApplesInArrays | I tried with ubuntu desktop and it didn't work. | 08:37 |
| ApplesInArrays | unetbootin doesn't have Ubuntu 14.04LTS as an option | 08:38 |
| lordievader | ApplesInArrays: Doesn't matter, you can give it any iso. | 08:38 |
| ApplesInArrays | Great, thanks. | 08:38 |
| ApplesInArrays | Also, could I develop with that machine and 'push' updates to my #digitalocean droplet? | 08:40 |
| ApplesInArrays | or would I update to it with netBeans, then once I'm happy, push that to my droplet? | 08:40 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, download 14.04 LTS .iso and then use unetbootin | 08:44 |
| ApplesInArrays | I've already tried that | 08:45 |
| ApplesInArrays | Boot Error | 08:45 |
| ikonia | there must be more detail than "boot error" | 08:45 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, then your .iso is funky. you DID md5sum, right? | 08:45 |
| ApplesInArrays | There isn't. | 08:45 |
| ApplesInArrays | cfhowlett: yes | 08:45 |
| ikonia | there is that error coming from | 08:45 |
| ikonia | what point in the boot process | 08:45 |
| ApplesInArrays | I tell BIOS to boot from USB, it says "Boot Error" | 08:46 |
| ApplesInArrays | Then it starts up windows after about 5 seconds. | 08:46 |
| ikonia | that suggests there is no boot sector on the usb disk | 08:46 |
| ikonia | so it skips it and moves to the next boot option | 08:46 |
| ApplesInArrays | I stick it in this machine, and it works. | 08:46 |
| ikonia | that looks like a bios error | 08:46 |
| ApplesInArrays | I just played around with it for a while. | 08:46 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, usb's do go bad. frequently. md5sum the usb to verify | 08:48 |
| ApplesInArrays | I already have | 08:48 |
| ApplesInArrays | on the image | 08:48 |
| ApplesInArrays | and then I ran it on this machine | 08:48 |
| ApplesInArrays | Alright, never mind, I'll figure it out. | 08:49 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, ? 2 step verification: the .iso AND the usb after you burn the iso | 08:49 |
| ApplesInArrays | If it doesn't work on the 1st machine, but works on the 2nd machine, could it be the USB? | 08:49 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, no if it works at all, it's not the USB causing issues | 08:50 |
| ApplesInArrays | That's... what I was getting at. | 08:50 |
| cfhowlett | ApplesInArrays, noted. I missed that detail. sorry. | 08:50 |
| ed8 | I got a script run by apache that attempt to chown/chgrp a file but fail | 09:05 |
| ed8 | I'm running: chown mast:www-data /var/log/mast/mast-alban.log | 09:05 |
| ed8 | 'www-data' user is already in 'mast' group → uid=33(www-data) gid=33(www-data) groups=33(www-data),999(mast) | 09:06 |
| ikonia | thats nothing to do with changing ownerhip of a file, that's trying to add a user to a group it's already in | 09:06 |
| ikonia | is there a user called "mast" | 09:07 |
| ed8 | ikonia: yep | 09:07 |
| ed8 | ikonia: the error is on the chown (or chgrp) command | 09:07 |
| ikonia | so apache (the user running apache) won't be able to change the owner, as the owner is mast, and apache is not running as the user mast | 09:08 |
| ikonia | that error looks very badly wored | 09:08 |
| ikonia | worded | 09:08 |
| ed8 | ikonia: so who can change ownership ? I though being in the source and target group would allow that | 09:09 |
| ikonia | no | 09:09 |
| ikonia | the owner/super user can change the owner | 09:09 |
| lordievader | ed8: Owner and root. | 09:11 |
| ed8 | ikonia: ok, then how can I create my file with a given ownership ? | 09:11 |
| ikonia | how is the file getting created now ? | 09:11 |
| ikonia | what is it you're actually trying to do | 09:11 |
| ikonia | as having a web server change things on the file system is very very very bad | 09:12 |
| lordievader | ikonia: +1 | 09:12 |
| ed8 | ikonia: based on a template file, so using a 'cp template newfile' | 09:16 |
| ikonia | ed8: is the webserver doing that or an interactive user | 09:17 |
| ed8 | ikonia: the webserver invoke a init script like: 'mast status' | 09:17 |
| ikonia | that is a very very very bad idea | 09:17 |
| ikonia | and not something I'd suggest you do | 09:17 |
| ikonia | your webserver should not be controlling your system | 09:18 |
| ed8 | ikonia: how would you do it then? | 09:18 |
| ed8 | the project is to create a web interface for a init script | 09:18 |
| ikonia | I have no idea what you are doing/why you are doing what you are doing, so it's impossible to say | 09:18 |
| ikonia | thats a bad project and not something I'm interested in | 09:19 |
| ed8 | ikonia: what do you suggest to improve security ? | 09:20 |
| ikonia | not using a web interface | 09:20 |
| ed8 | ikonia: as that's the goal of the project, this is not possible. | 09:22 |
| ApplesInArrays | I could use Vagrant on my Windows machine and Ubuntu machine to make sure everything's identical? | 09:22 |
| ikonia | ed8: thats fine, as I said it's not something I want to be part of/assist with | 09:22 |
| ikonia | ApplesInArrays: not sure what value that would be | 09:22 |
| ApplesInArrays | I will have a local server for dev, then copy files to main droplet for production. | 09:23 |
| ApplesInArrays | Right now production=development, and I think this is not the best way to go about it. | 09:23 |
| ikonia | no idea what you're on about | 09:23 |
| ApplesInArrays | Oh, ok. | 09:23 |
| ApplesInArrays | Not sure what you mean. | 09:24 |
| lordievader | ApplesInArrays: NFS share? If it is a dev environment it should not matter that things break. | 09:24 |
| ed8 | ikonia: ok, thanks | 09:25 |
| ApplesInArrays | lordievader: then I need to copy things to production | 09:26 |
| ApplesInArrays | I'd like to make sure it works there | 09:26 |
| lordievader | ApplesInArrays: Of coure you need to copy/push things to production. That is not a test environment... | 09:26 |
| lordievader | And to make sure it works you have your dev environment. | 09:27 |
| ApplesInArrays | and if it works in completely different environments, I wouldn't expect identical behavior all of the time. | 09:27 |
| ApplesInArrays | So I'm trying to figure out if Vagrant could set up the same environment for testing before pushing. | 09:28 |
| lordievader | That is why you try to keep your dev environment identical to the production environment. | 09:28 |
| ApplesInArrays | Which is why I'm asking if Vagrant can do it. | 09:28 |
| ApplesInArrays | I don't know if I can spell it out any simpler. | 09:29 |
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| ed8 | why does 'cp --preserve=mode,ownership /etc/mast/template /etc/mast/alban' doesn't preserve ownership ? | 09:36 |
| ed8 | the file 'template' has the following permissions: -rwxrwx--- 1 mast www-data 1.5K Sep 23 21:26 template | 09:36 |
| ed8 | and the script is run by 'www-data' | 09:36 |
| ed8 | s/script/cp command/ | 09:36 |
| ed8 | I was expecting to have 'mast' ownership preserved. Do I missed something? | 09:39 |
| lordievader | ed8: The file is owned by mast? | 09:40 |
| ed8 | lordievader: yep | 09:41 |
| * lordievader doesn't see the problem | 09:41 | |
| ed8 | lordievader: new file is own by www-data:www-data instead of mast:www-data | 09:42 |
| lordievader | Ah, you didn't say that ;) | 09:42 |
| ed8 | and 'www-data' user is in 'mast' group, so again I expected this to be enough | 09:43 |
| lordievader | ed8: Likely because www-data is not mast, and therefore cannot change the ownership to mast without root rights. | 09:45 |
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| ikonia | ApplesInArrays | 12:03 |
| ikonia | oops | 12:03 |
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| ghostfire | hi all, what is the best way to have a program launch when the server starts ? | 12:32 |
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| zzxc | Hey guys, Apache is giving me a message saying I have message saying "(98)Address already in use: AH00072: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80". I've checked and nothing is bound to port 80 right now. | 16:47 |
| zzxc | This is a new install. Anyone have any ideas? | 16:48 |
| ikonia | it means something is listening on port 80 | 16:51 |
| zzxc | I've check with both nc -l 80 and netstat -ltnp | grep ':80' neither returned anything. | 16:53 |
| ikonia | that's not a check | 16:54 |
| zzxc | How do you mean? | 16:55 |
| ikonia | it will use the service name | 16:55 |
| ikonia | port 80 will have a definition in /etc/services so will never show up in netstat | 16:55 |
| zzxc | Ahhhhh alright. And that actually might be the issue. I have two entires in /etc/services for port 80. | 16:57 |
| zzxc | Actually scrapt that. one is tcp the other is udp. | 16:57 |
| ikonia | /etc/servies doesn't do anything | 16:57 |
| ikonia | other than map ports to names | 16:57 |
| ikonia | what is the name of the service in /etc/services for port 80 | 16:58 |
| zzxc | "http>>>>80/tcp>>>>www>>># WorldWideWeb HTTP" and "http>>>>80/udp>>>>>>>># HyperText Transfer Protocol" | 16:59 |
| ikonia | zzxc: pastebin the output of the following command please "netstat -a | grep LIST" | 16:59 |
| zzxc | ikonia: K one second. | 16:59 |
| zzxc | ikonia, Here you go: http://pastebin.com/MEJFJ4Er | 17:01 |
| ikonia | zzxc: looks like you have it listening on ipv6 | 17:02 |
| ikonia | which ties in with the [::]:80 error you pasted | 17:03 |
| zzxc | ikonia: Oh http-alt. I missed that. | 17:03 |
| tafa2 | ufw is misbehaving for some reason | 17:04 |
| tafa2 | ive done this a million times.... but today apparently is a no go... how do I allow 53/tcp to ip 192.168.0.1 on eth0? | 17:04 |
| zzxc | ikonia: Awesome thats some progress. Let me see if I can find out where to disable ip6. | 17:05 |
| tafa2 | does anyone know how to forward pptpd packes to a local dns server? | 18:22 |
| tafa2 | is there a firewall that allows connections for a specific process? | 19:38 |
| bekks | iptables | 19:39 |
| tafa2 | really? | 19:39 |
| tafa2 | does that I mean I could do it using ufw | 19:39 |
| bekks | Depends on what exactly you want to do. | 19:39 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 20:33 |
| RoyK | lordievader: evening | 21:10 |
| lordievader | Hey RoyK, how are you doing? | 21:11 |
| RoyK | lordievader: stomach full of good food, relaxing | 21:14 |
| lordievader | Sounds good ;) | 21:15 |
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| tafa2 | would anyone be able to help with this? http://serverfault.com/questions/633715/configure-ufw-pptpd-and-dnsmasq-on-the-same-server | 22:47 |
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