[01:58] <akiva-thinkpad> I opened up my emulator... its asking me for a passcode
[01:58] <akiva-thinkpad> what passcode do I give it?
[02:07] <akiva-thinkpad> errrm, "In the Ubuntu SDK, open the Devices tab and its Device Actions sub tab (at the bottom)."
[02:07] <akiva-thinkpad> where is this tab?
[02:07] <akiva-thinkpad> I don't see it at the bottom.
[06:06] <xt907> hello 2 all!
[06:07] <xt907> I bought Motorola Razr M (xt907) for CDMA use and for flashing to Ubuntu Touch. But I can't undestand the state of it ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/xt907). Will CDMA calls/internet work?
[06:07] <xt907> I don't know what to do, to return it back or to flash Ubuntu Touch? Now on Android CDMA calls and internet (EVDO) are working.
[06:07] <xt907> Thanks!
[06:16] <xt907> will ubuntu touch work in cdma mode? and on what devices?
[06:46] <akiva-thinkpad> LOUSY DAMN EMULATORS!!! YELLING SPITTING STUPID BUGGY NON DESCRIPTIVE GAHHH!H!H!H!H!!!!!111one.
[06:46] <akiva-thinkpad> huh
[06:46] <akiva-thinkpad> huh
[06:46] <akiva-thinkpad> Why do I have an emulator named cat:?
[06:46] <akiva-thinkpad> why can't I delete it?
[06:47] <akiva-thinkpad> why does it keep searching for it
[06:47] <akiva-thinkpad> blah!
[06:47] <akiva-thinkpad> I can't even create an emulator named cat:
[07:03] <rookie2030> hi all im trying to install ubuntu touch on my gt3113
[07:03] <rookie2030> but in the web page appears that i need 2 files
[07:04] <rookie2030> what is the other file
[07:04] <akiva-thinkpad> rookie2030, web page please?
[07:04] <rookie2030> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40470153&postcount=272
[07:05] <rookie2030> i download saucy preinstalled phablet ar,hf.zip
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> 1. Download the device-specific file from http://ubuntuone.com/06wZ6ricQcGHZNNyYPcBKN.
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> 2. Download the latest Ubuntu Touch nightly from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-tou...alled/current/. You need the file entitled "raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip".
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> looks like two files to me
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> ah
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> not current
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> and ubuntu one is down
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> lol
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> sir
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> you are out of luck
[07:06] <rookie2030> yes appears this but in one download link not have a file
[07:06] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu one does not exist no more
[07:07] <akiva-thinkpad> and the cdimage is deprecated, thus no site
[07:07] <rookie2030> and the second link there are no nightly only appears sauce
[07:07]  * akiva-thinkpad checks your device
[07:08] <akiva-thinkpad> rookie2030, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3110
[07:09] <akiva-thinkpad> i don't install devices that often so hopefully someone else with more experience can helps you
[07:09] <akiva-thinkpad> I'd suggest responding to the thread
[07:09] <akiva-thinkpad> and saying that the links are dead
[07:10] <rookie2030_> samsung galaxy tab 2 7 p3113
[07:12] <joehannes> hey guys! anyone in here has a link or to as to what phones exactly will when exactly be available for official purchase shipping with ubuntu preinstalled??? or will it all be google-play store app installable on this and that? and when exactly, with 14.10???
[07:12] <xt907> What is current status of CDMA? I Bought a Motorola Razr M (XT907), and now I don't know what to do... I wanted to replace my ios with opensource... Will Ubuntu Touch support it?
[07:12] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, its not officially announced
[07:12] <akiva-thinkpad> but
[07:13] <akiva-thinkpad> its gonna probably be the Mx4, and a bq phone
[07:13] <joehannes> ahhh ... and when ... with 14.10 in 3 weeks?
[07:13] <joehannes> or not known yet?
[07:14] <joehannes> I'm thinking of waiting for the new ubuntu phone ...
[07:15] <joehannes> ah, thx
[07:15] <joehannes> what do you think akiva-thinkpad ...
[07:16] <joehannes> is it better to get a decent nexus and flash it or get this chinese model ... I've had bad experience as to chinese quality
[07:17] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, good question
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, wait for the official release, in part just to reward the manufacturers for using ubuntu
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> the mx4 has a 20 mp camera!
[07:18] <joehannes> thx, and as not to feed the troll I will stop here and think the rest to myself :)
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> and better battery than the iphone 6
[07:18] <joehannes> really?
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> think so
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> from what I've seen
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> its a bit thicker
[07:19] <akiva-thinkpad> but blah
[07:19] <joehannes> exactly the  battery has been incredibly sloppy with my last chinese model ... a omg ... what was it called, don't remember
[07:19] <akiva-thinkpad> looks cool to me
[07:19] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, china is becoming better :P
[07:19] <joehannes> yay, I understand the idea of community fundraising and stuff *whateverterm* ...
[07:19] <joehannes> and I like it
[07:19] <joehannes> let's hope so, it's a big chance
[07:20] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, yes
[07:20] <joehannes> but I must say they learn in marketing fast ...
[07:20] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, hey are you interested in helping develop apps for the touch?
[07:20] <akiva-thinkpad> either for yourself, or for ubuntu?
[07:20] <joehannes> checking out the quality of the last phone I had does really lower my "Woooohhh, so cheap!!"
[07:20] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[07:20] <joehannes> akiva-thinkpad ... definitely
[07:21] <joehannes> if it's possible in javascript, why?
[07:21] <joehannes> you got job openings or is it all kinda open source volunteerism?
[07:21] <joehannes> I love open source of course and value the idea ... *gg*
[07:21] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, im a volunteer :P
[07:21] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, and qml is javascriptish
[07:21] <joehannes> oh, yeah, well
[07:22] <joehannes> ah, dios, qml ... I don't even know what that is
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, its fun
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> it uses javascript syntax
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> very intuitive.
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> you can extend it to c++
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> or go
[07:22] <joehannes> doesn't ubuntu atm come up with some javascript bridges and stuff ... come on, windows has it, yosemite brings it to mac, I think I already read about it on some ubuntu pages
[07:22] <akiva-thinkpad> "Go"
[07:23] <akiva-thinkpad> not sure what the bridges is
[07:23] <joehannes> ok, gimme a pastebin to actually see a snippet ... would you?
[07:23] <akiva-thinkpad> sure
[07:23] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll show you what I'm working on
[07:23] <joehannes> cool
[07:25] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, http://i.imgur.com/Oqe2vMh.png
[07:27] <joehannes> javascriptish ... pffhht ... I think I got a lack of imagination then *gggg*
[07:27] <joehannes> sounds cool
[07:27] <joehannes> what's up the line?
[07:27] <joehannes> give me a sec to double check if it's not possible in js ... or are you sure it is QML only?
[07:28] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, html5 too
[07:29] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, and you can use javascript files in this
[07:29] <akiva-thinkpad> we use them for setting global values
[07:29] <akiva-thinkpad> but seriously; just learn qml; its easy peasy
[07:29] <joehannes> ok, that sounds cool
[07:29] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, want some help getting started?
[07:29] <akiva-thinkpad> #ubuntu-app-devel
[07:29] <joehannes> so, what's up the line for volunteers ???? ... nah, that's fine, I could get it done myself, at least til stuck
[07:30] <joehannes> question is, what needs help?
[07:30] <joehannes> how to become a volunteer I guess
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, good question
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, right now we are all pushing for RTM
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> ie
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> release to manufacturer
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> right
[07:30] <joehannes> and of course ... is there any hard incentiveness in store for volunteers?? like free ubuntu phone for example ... hehehe
[07:30] <akiva-thinkpad> because the phone companies need working images
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, there are occassionally competitions
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, for me, its all about becoming an ubuntu member,
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> which is a thing
[07:31] <joehannes> ahhh, tell me more, please
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> and getting letters of recomendation
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[07:31] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[07:32] <akiva-thinkpad> and finally, getting actual experience
[07:32] <akiva-thinkpad> its a lot of fun working on these projects so
[07:32] <akiva-thinkpad> yah :)
[07:33] <joehannes> ok, cool
[07:33] <joehannes> so I could start with writing my own awesome app and sell it in the store?
[07:36] <joehannes> pretty cool and all ... will think about it ... now, having a ciggarette
[07:36] <joehannes> hey, I saw it's actually QML or HTML5
[07:36] <joehannes> so you are able to use HTML5
[07:36] <joehannes> cool
[07:37] <joehannes> any ideas on a killer app?
[07:37] <joehannes> hihi
[07:46] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, oh btw; if you want to get my attention, make sure to type my name out
[07:47] <akiva-thinkpad> that sends me a notification
[07:47] <rookie2030_> hi anyone know how to install ubuntu touch on p3113
[07:47] <joehannes> akiva-thinkpad ... yay, I should know :)
[07:47] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, as for a killer app? Stuff that linux geeks would like.
[07:47] <joehannes> joehannes ... hmm, u think so? cool
[07:48] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, yah the terminal app for example looks awesome
[07:48] <joehannes> give me a screenie!!! want to, want to .... see
[07:49] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, oh havnt seen it :P
[07:49] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[07:51] <akiva-thinkpad> bah trying to find a nice non old one :P
[07:51] <joehannes> take your tie
[07:51] <joehannes> time
[07:52]  * akiva-thinkpad is branching the latest version
[07:53] <joehannes> hihihi
[07:57]  * joehannes is thinking hard - quit that cycle of boredom - stop and replace hard with cool phun ...
[08:11] <joehannes> hey akiva-thinkpad ... what about the terminal app? you doing a full branch and messing things up just to extract a screenie?
[08:12] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, grumbles
[08:12] <akiva-thinkpad> i am having build issues
[08:13] <akiva-thinkpad> really frustrating errors where google can't help
[08:13] <akiva-thinkpad> No command 'intltool' found
[08:13] <akiva-thinkpad> bloody; its installed!
[08:13] <akiva-thinkpad> don't know why its having this issue...
[08:14] <joehannes> don't tell me you're on windows and having path issues?
[08:14] <joehannes> but can you develop ubuntu on windows?
[08:14] <akiva-thinkpad> ew
[08:14] <akiva-thinkpad> im on ubuntu
[08:15] <joehannes> of course
[08:15] <joehannes> and if you type intltoo tab tab ... you get intltool, right? so to speak quickchck if its on the path
[08:15] <joehannes> stupid proposition of mine probably sorry
[08:15] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ML38_CLzwc
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, want to help me with something? Can you open your terminal
[08:18] <joehannes> sure
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> I want to know if this error is just me
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> check if you have this installed, "intltool"
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> not inteltool
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> just intltool
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> if you don't, install it and run it
[08:19] <akiva-thinkpad> if you do, run it
[08:19] <akiva-thinkpad> and tell me the output
[08:19] <joehannes> no ... just installing, gimme a sec
[08:19] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm getting intltool: command not found
[08:20] <joehannes> yay, installed, but no command intltool found ... I'll help looking
[08:20] <joehannes> oh
[08:20] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, hmmm?
[08:20] <joehannes> intltool is a package coming with subtools
[08:20] <joehannes> intltoolize, intltool-extract, intltool-thisandthat ...
[08:21] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, ah yes
[08:22] <akiva-thinkpad> intl-merge does appear to work...
[08:22] <joehannes> I guess if that just happened to change and now breaks things ... you should probably create a "ln -s intltool-whatever intltool" in your /usr/bin
[08:22] <akiva-thinkpad> pah
[08:22] <akiva-thinkpad> bloody what the heck is with this build then?
[08:22] <joehannes> gimme a pastebin of your output, want to help
[08:23] <akiva-thinkpad> yah thanks
[08:23] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[08:23] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, http://i.imgur.com/KSZNQyi.png
[08:25] <joehannes> what comes to mind is ... probably not the prob, but worth a try ... the build seems to use plain shell, not bash ... have you checked if your plain shell has intltool-merge in its path .. .could it host a different path?
[08:26] <akiva-thinkpad> hummm
[08:26] <joehannes> forget it, if I change to sh it still finds intltool-merge
[08:26] <akiva-thinkpad> joehannes, yah this is using chroot soooo...
[08:27] <akiva-thinkpad> maybe its not installed in that
[08:27] <akiva-thinkpad> good point.
[08:29] <joehannes> hahaha!
[08:31] <joehannes> you've made me real edgy, I should just work for my employer now to catch up ... never mind it being Sunday 04:30 am ... but now I want to develop an ubuntu app ... tsktsk
[08:32] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[08:33] <akiva-thinkpad> its easy; running the emulator is difficult though (you don't need to btw. qmlscene works fine)
[08:44] <joehannes> cool
[08:44] <joehannes> I'll give my musing another shot, then get back to actual work
[12:38] <joehannes> akiva-thinkpad ... still there?
[12:49] <joehannes> hey ... an open question begging for an honest answer --- akiva-thinkpad challenged me this night to start ubuntu-touch dev, and I'm setting up my env right now -> I'll see where I get ---> my question: I'd rather prefer HTML5 to QML .... is there any big reasons why to prefer QML (for how long?) ??
[13:15] <chrisc> i just found a corrupt file on my ubuntu nexus 5, i wonder what caused that
[13:28] <joehannes> hey guys ... anyone up and running yet? I'm trying to start ubuntu dev and have two questions. Can the HTML5 part be considered "developable with" yet, or is QML a smart move for now?
[13:29] <joehannes> Second question: I'm a lil bit confused about all those scopes and hubs and stuff ... even the design guides and stuff on developer.ubuntu.com ... is it for phone, tablets AND desktop, or is desktop a different thing?
[18:00] <rookie2030> hi everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu touch on my galaxy tab 2 7 p3113 i follow the step on the web xda but it link 1 is broken anoyone know where i can find the device rom
[18:17] <rookie2030> or exist another way to install ubuntu on galaxy tab 2 7
[20:26] <kurt_> rookie2030, are you useing a port to try and install i havent heard of one for the tab 2
[20:27] <kurt_> the only official supported devices are N4 and 2013 N7 that I know of
[22:53] <NikTh> Hello people.
[22:56] <NikTh> Say now I have translated (made) a new language for the Ubuntu keyboard and I want to test it via Ubuntu emulator (on a 14.04 system). How can I do that? I've followed the instructions here(http://davidplanella.org/ubuntu-emulator-quickstart-guide/) for the emulator and I have spotted the correct files in launchpad for the language (keyboard plugin) here (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/ubuntu-keyboard/trunk/files/head:/plugins/en/).