[06:16] good morning [06:40] Good morning. [08:29] Hei guys, do you know a way to change the Terminal Size from the command line (more or less set and unset fullscreen mode) [08:36] SourBlue: From konsole? Guess you should look at qdbus. === toscalix_ is now known as toscalix [08:59] hola chicos [09:06] ellos mios === vinay is now known as Guest26616 [09:45] SourBlue: did you ever get a chance to look at kdevelop-py3 ? [09:45] or whatever it's called [09:46] Nope [09:46] should I ? [09:46] SourBlue: you were talking about packaging it [09:47] there's no desperate rush but it would be nice [09:48] Yeah, it looked like a "normal" Package but i never took a close look at that [09:48] I don't really have time (at the moment) to look into something new like that I'm learning Apache, FTP etc atm [10:48] morning [10:49] buenos dias sgclark [10:49] Good afternoon [10:49] sgclark: did you have a nice weekend? [10:51] Riddell: well, update broke my system :) but all good now. Filed : Bug 1377321 [10:51] bug 1377321 in nvidia-prime (Ubuntu) "sddm and nvidia-331 problems if nvidia-331/nvidia-prime is already installed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1377321 [10:51] sgclark: this seems to happen surpringly often with you! [10:51] Riddell: almost done with that massive copyright file [10:52] Riddell: yeah I know :( 90% of the time it is my Nvidia card : / [10:52] sgclark: oh kdeplasma-addons? hugs [10:52] I hate that nouveau driver though [10:53] Riddell: yeah, will be done here in a few. Is that a new release I see going through ci? [10:54] modified: debian/kio.install [10:54] people [10:54] tsdgeos: you had an issue with ntrack in the archive? [10:54] you really really need to remember wrap-and-sort [10:55] Riddell: i have a crash in konqueror when going to kde bugzilla and started from kinit, i remember i've had before and i *think* it got fixed by rebuilding something ntrack related [10:56] but i may be misremembering (i'm sure i had it before and autofixed itself, don't remember what rebuild was needed) [10:56] apachelogger: you're a fan of wrap-and-sort now? [10:56] no [10:57] if you want to use it then use it [10:57] sgclark: KF5 5.3 initial upload to next-staging [10:57] if you want to use it but don't use it it just creates more pointless diff across stuff [10:58] therefore you either must use it always or you must not use it never, using it sometimes isn't going to fly and defeats the purpose to begin with [11:00] right enough [11:05] Riddell: ok so there is a COPYING GPL-3 file that copyright helper picks up, but the files say GPL-2+, which do I go with? [11:06] let me look [11:07] Riddell: applets folder is the issue [11:08] sgclark: which path? [11:08] oh I see [11:08] Riddell: many of them [11:09] Riddell: and actually there are a variety of licenses in files, but a COPYING with GPL3 [11:10] qalculate and leavenote have GPL3 but the files are GPL2 [11:10] sgclark: should be fixed upstream by removing the unnecessary COPYING files [11:10] sgclark: do you have a kde git account? [11:10] Riddell: I do [11:11] sgclark: I suggest just just removing all the COPYING files in applets/ in Plasma/5.1 branch and merging that into master [11:12] ok [11:17] let me know if you need a hand [11:18] Riddell: oh, did you catch the i18n php tag problem in your announcement? [11:18] I was gpoing to fix it for you but did not get web permissions until last night [11:18] sgclark: for plasma beta? I saw there was one paragraph which wasn't being shown [11:18] ooh you have web permission? elite! [11:18] yeah :) [11:18] you can help with release announcements now :) [11:19] yep [11:20] when d_ed appears I'll work out what he started for the final announcement for plasma 5.1 [11:20] Riddell: so I don't have to review request removing these? [11:20] sgclark: nah, they're obviously unnecessary and confusing [11:20] * sgclark is scared [11:20] ok lol [11:21] I want to light fireworks [11:21] I don't know why [11:22] but I feel like lighting some fireworks [11:25] Riddell: pushed [11:27] sgclark: you can also remove the other COPYING files if you want, they're unnecessary [11:28] ok [11:28] * Riddell sends shadeslayer to http://www.openfiremap.org/?zoom=13&lat=41.37907&lon=2.17644&layers=B0000TF first [11:28] lol [11:29] fire hydrants? === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Status KF5 5.3.0 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.3.0_utopic.html === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [12:11] hi everyone [12:11] got a problem with 5.0.95 [12:11] nearly after every reboot the desktopbackground disapears and i can't open the desktop preferences?! [12:12] is that a known bug? [12:34] hey guys i have a problem with package dependencies since today... project-neon5-kio-dbg depends on project-neon5-kio and if i try apt-get -f install i get broken pipe.... [12:34] asked in the project-neon channel but no answer [12:38] mcstr: i think here's few traffic too 2day ;-) [12:39] antisound hmmm ok ... you 've got any idea about this? [12:39] mcstr: nope sry [12:39] i'm not working with project neon [12:39] i'm on 14.10 plasma5 iso [12:39] afair last time i had something like that it fixed itself after few days [12:39] mcstr: maybe wait somemore days... and they're going to fix that package? [12:39] ktrash5 is the culprit... [12:40] yeah that's what i thought too antisound [12:40] I don't use or have anything to do with projet neon sorry :( [12:40] tried to clean the cache no luck [12:40] then the only thing you could have is patience ;-) [12:41] indeed :) [12:41] not my strenght though :P [12:41] mcstr: i knew what you mean,... [12:42] it's like wait for christmas.. for me it's waiting for plasma 5.1 final :D [12:42] hehe [12:43] when is the release supposed to be? [12:43] 14th of october [12:43] supposed to be ;-) [12:43] Antisound: it disappears after you set it? [12:43] Riddell: yes sir [12:43] a week from now on [12:43] Riddell: and the screen is flickering too [12:43] probably will get it also quite fast as i am using the kubuntu ppa daily packages [12:43] Riddell: i think it's kwin but i'm not sure [12:44] Riddell: if i only log off and on again it's alright again [12:44] flickering might be, the background will be plasma [12:45] mcstr: 4 sure u will get [12:45] Riddell: for me it feels like kwin but i can be wrong [12:46] Riddell: the strangest thing of all is i can't open the desktop settings anymore... either via mouse right click nor on the "sandwich" button too [12:47] wibble [12:47] well I've been stuck on the ubiquity -> sddm transition issue [12:47] Hey folks [12:47] but I'm getting nowhere, there's no log output and it's hard to do anything without that [12:47] hi BluesKaj [12:47] Riddell: same here ;-) [12:47] so I might just give up and not have ubiquity display at the start [12:47] hi Antisound [12:47] don't know how to log [12:47] and then I can care about other bits [12:47] hiyas [12:49] mcstr: why don't you use the 14.10 plasma5 image? [12:50] klipper seems broken... [12:51] antisound because on my working pc i use usually kde 4 kubuntu and have added the ppas for project neon [12:51] sgclark: for me it's working [12:51] antisound as much as i think plasma next is awesomely promising not yet there for daily work [12:51] mcstr: you think? [12:52] antisound yep, akonadi yet not working in kmail for example [12:52] also still a few crashes [12:52] Antisound: you can copy and paste from the panel entries? [12:53] but i love the little mem consumption and general performance [12:53] sgclark: let me check [12:53] sgclark: yup seems working [12:54] hrmm ok [13:18] sgclark or anyone let me know if you start on KF5, at the moment I'm being lazy and not updating the notes page [13:19] I am still working on this insane copyright :( [13:19] but will do [13:22] Riddell: i am in kf5 or do you mean k5 5.3? [13:22] Antisound: I mean doing packaging fixes (which you're very welcome to do) [13:23] Riddell: do you mean... like this? http://packaging.ubuntu.com/de/html/fixing-a-bug.html [13:24] Antisound: something like that [13:24] Riddell: what in detail do you mean? [13:24] Antisound: we have KF5 5.3 packages in the next-staging PPA and this page shows if they built and if it can see any problems http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.3.0_utopic.html [13:25] and I'm going through fixing any problems it highlights [13:25] if you want to help I'd happily show you how :) [13:25] Riddell: show me how! [13:25] i want to learn ;-) [13:26] Antisound: ok I'll set up a cloud server and we can do some together, do you have a launchpad page with your ssh key? [13:26] errr, no sry [13:26] not yet [13:26] or wait [13:26] i think i have [13:27] I HAVE! ;-) [13:27] hmm where do i get my ssh key? [13:28] wait wait,... [13:31] Riddell: so everythings ready ;-) [13:31] got an ssh key [13:32] Antisound: utl? [13:32] Antisound: url? [13:33] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~antisound is that the right one? [13:33] https://launchpad.net/~antisound/+sshkeys [13:33] or this? [13:33] yep thanks [13:33] mitya57: do you see anything risky in the qtchooser whitelisting patch regarding KDE? apachelogger mentioned those plasma startup issues, but my understanding is that the whitelist approach doesn't increase any risk of problems, only decreases. if the correct version is installed, it will be used. [13:33] Antisound: it'll be a couple of mins to start up [13:33] ok [13:33] no stress ;-) [13:34] * Antisound is pretty exicted to learn something new ;-) [13:35] Riddell: just got your LP update for the "insights" bug and I just had a talk with our Mgmt. Peter told me he'll contact Canonical this week. Let's see what they'll propose. [13:35] ooh great, thanks jmux :) [13:36] * jmux doubts they'll replace Ubuntu with Kubuntu, but probably add a paragraph... [13:36] well that's fine, we're happy to be ubuntu as well [13:36] Riddell: interposed question... are you any other guys in here for canoncial? [13:36] working.. [13:37] Mirv: I see no problem at all [13:37] (even more, what I initially suggested was to enable fallback for *everything*) [13:37] Antisound: nobody kubuntu works for canonoical but some nice people from involved in canonical do qt5 (as chatting just now) [13:37] ok [13:38] Mirv: Good news is that svuorela will talk to thiago about that at Qt Developer Days [13:38] mitya57: yes, I think so too. apachelogger is right in that there are issues (that have been workarounded in eg. kde4 packages by directly calling Qt4's qdbus), but that patch does not make them worse [13:39] mitya57: Unity8 desktop preview would need it for 14.10, would it be ok for you if I upload it now? [13:39] Please go ahead! [13:40] thanks! [13:40] Riddell: maybe an indiscreet question... but how are you earn money if you re working for free? [13:41] That's not what he said. [13:41] * sgclark makes nothing [13:41] Antisound: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-235-32-131.compute-1.amazonaws.com then run byobu [13:42] apachelogger shadeslayer from project-neon told me that project neon is currently unmaintained and you know more about it? [13:42] ScottK: you talked to me? [13:42] Antisound: I'm lucky enough to get sponsored by Blue Systems, folks like jmux are clever enough to get their city council to pay to install kubuntu, many people work for the satisfaction of making a great product they want to use and to gain skills in life [13:43] Riddell: wow! [13:43] thats an answer ;-) [13:43] i'M logged in ;-) [13:43] Antisound: welcome in to this shared ec2 (amazon cloud) server [13:44] yeah, thx ;-) [13:44] Antisound: lets do an easy fix [13:44] ok show me how [13:44] Antisound: on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_5.3.0_utopic.html kdnssd-kf5 is yellow [13:45] i c [13:45] Antisound: if you click show it highlights the issue invalid-short-name-in-dep5-copyright [13:45] yep [13:45] Antisound: this is given by a tool called lintian which just examines .deb packages and issues common warnings and errors [13:46] ah ok [13:46] Antisound: you can google invalid-short-name-in-dep5-copyright and get a better explanation but it's sayins that BSD should be changed to be more specific as a label [13:46] Riddell: alright [13:46] Antisound: this is KDE Frameworks and we've just changed to storing our packaging in debian git for that [13:47] Antisound: so make a new directory for kdnssd [13:47] on the ec2 server [13:47] ok [13:47] show me how [13:47] Antisound: you know command line? [13:47] a bit of course ;-) [13:48] standard commands [13:48] Antisound: better if you do it, means you'll remember it more [13:48] ok [13:48] just mkdir for it [13:48] give it a name too [13:48] ok [13:48] kdnssd is a good name [13:48] hehe [13:49] and cd into it [13:49] Antisound: get the packaging with git clone debian:frameworks/kdnssd [13:49] alright [13:50] Antisound: you can see from the .gitconfig I checked earier on that console that debian: is a git shortcut for git://git.debian.org/pkg-kde/ [13:50] Antisound: cd into that [13:50] and get the right branch git checkout kubuntu_utopic_next [13:50] wait slowly [13:51] you were right with the cd you had [13:51] so? [13:51] then run that checkout [13:52] Mirv, mitya57: FWIW from what I remember the patch is a substantial step up in things not falling over, as far as kde bits are concerned startkde currently is patched in both versions of plasma so landing the patch should at least not break login ;) [13:52] how to? [13:52] Antisound: git checkout kubuntu_utopic_next [13:52] Antisound: great [13:52] thx ;) [13:53] Antisound: this debian/ directory is our packaging, you can look at each of the files if you want to see what they all do [13:53] ok [13:53] Antisound: infact, look at each file and ask me to explain those you don't understand [13:54] what you mean, with look at them? [13:54] Antisound: you can use less to look at the contents of each file [13:54] ok [13:54] changelog is clear [13:54] ;-) [13:54] q to quit [13:54] * Antisound know's that ;-) [13:54] hehe [13:55] whats compat? [13:55] it's the compatibility version of the debhelper scripts, much of the work of building the package is done by debhelper scripts [13:55] and they change behaviour occationally [13:55] ok [13:55] so the compat just sets which version they act as [13:55] and control? [13:55] 9 is the latest [13:56] control is metadata for the package, it describes the source package in the top paragraph and the binary packages we want to build in the following paragraphs [13:56] ok [13:56] copyright seems to be clear ;-) [13:58] lol [13:58] i think the rest is clear [13:58] great [13:58] lets make this fix then [13:58] yep [13:58] ok [13:58] invalid-short-name-in-dep5-copyright bsd (paragraph at line 30) [13:59] Antisound: do you have a preferred console text editor? emacs? nano? [13:59] not really [13:59] vi ? [13:59] ;-) [13:59] not working often with console text editor [13:59] let's use nano to keep it simple [13:59] ok [13:59] Antisound: open copyright in nano [14:00] where does the line stand? [14:00] it'll be complaining about the line which says "License: BSD" [14:00] ok [14:00] I googled that lintian error and it pointed me to https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/ [14:00] which says to use BSD-2-clause or BSD-3-clause [14:01] ok [14:01] so scroll down to see which one we want to use [14:02] http://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause ? [14:02] Antisound: yeah looks like that's the one [14:02] so replace BSD with BSD-3-clause [14:02] apachelogger: yes, that's what I thought too. [14:02] Antisound: lovely, control x to save and quit [14:03] Antisound: ever used git before? [14:03] nope [14:03] sorry ;-) [14:04] Antisound: git diff to show changes [14:04] ahhhh [14:04] nice [14:04] Antisound: and if you're happy with them git commit -a -m "fix invalid-short-name-in-dep5-copyright" [14:04] will save it to the local repository [14:04] yes seems good ;-) [14:05] oooookaaaayy [14:05] Antisound: and you can run git push to send it to debian (except it won't work because my ssh key isn't on this server to stop you stealing my identity) [14:05] hehehe [14:06] Riddell: you don't trust me , hmm ;-) [14:06] just kidding [14:06] Antisound: or maybe I don't trust amazon :) [14:06] maybe more ;-) [14:06] ok [14:06] but it would have worked out [14:06] ;-) [14:06] Antisound: apt install git-buildpackage [14:07] what have i done? [14:08] that installs a tool called git-buildpackage [14:08] ok [14:08] i already thought.. [14:08] but what can i do with that tool ;-) [14:08] but maybe it's easier to avoid too many fancy tools for now [14:08] hehe [14:08] Antisound: in the directory above run uscan [14:09] ooh interesting [14:10] Antisound: I see, uscan uses that debian/watch file to try to download the upstream source tar from kde [14:10] ok [14:10] Antisound: but this isn't released software so it's not publically available on download.kde.org yet, you need to have a login to their server to get it [14:10] Antisound: so I've uploaded that manually [14:11] Antisound: uncompress that tar with tar xf filename [14:11] k [14:11] Antisound: and copy the debian/ packaging direcory into kdnssd-5.3.0/ [14:12] Riddell: the directory is the kdnssd folder or? [14:12] yep [14:12] copy or move? [14:12] (we're going to build the package to make sure it still builds, even though it's a trivial change and I might not bother normally) [14:12] Antisound: copy [14:12] errr i hate coping in console [14:12] :D [14:13] nearly: cp -r kdnssd/debian kdnssd-5.3.0/ [14:13] should do it [14:14] -r recusive? [14:14] yep [14:14] Antisound: inside kdnssd-5.3.0/ build the package by running debuild [14:15] Antisound: apt install those missing build depends [14:16] Antisound: learn to use copy and paste :) [14:16] select the package names with your name and middle click to paste [14:16] better :P ;) [14:16] hehe [14:17] holy moly.. .this is fast [14:17] amazon has a local mirror for ubuntu packages [14:17] ok [14:17] and I think this is a server with a solid state hard disk [14:17] i think so to [14:17] o [14:17] try to build it again [14:18] hmm === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [14:19] that package is installed but an older version, the new version should be in the next-staging PPA [14:19] ok it found it after an apt update [14:19] Antisound: debuild it! [14:20] hehehe [14:20] lovely [14:20] it's running the debhelper scripts [14:20] which will compile it [14:20] then install the files locally [14:20] ok [14:20] then put them into .debs [14:20] how to i put them into debs? [14:21] it'll do that [14:21] ok [14:21] nice [14:21] so debuild is the tool which makes of a source a .deb? [14:22] yep [14:22] lovely, it's all done [14:22] if you look in the directory above you should see the .debs [14:24] nice one [14:24] yep all these [14:24] you can use lesspipe foo.deb to see the contents of a .deb [14:24] and lintian foo.deb will hopefully no longer give the warning we were fixing [14:25] Antisound: again, copy and paste is your friend [14:25] double click on a filename to select, middle click o paste [14:26] but which of these were the file with the error? [14:26] Antisound: they all share the copyright file so all of them would give the error before [14:26] ok [14:27] you can also run lintian on the .dsc which will look at the source [14:27] nothings changed? [14:27] lovely, no errors [14:27] ok [14:27] silence is golden when it comes to lintian (or most things in unix) [14:28] hehe ok [14:28] Antisound: ok lets builds the source package and upload to the PPA [14:28] ok [14:28] Antisound: cd into kdnssd [14:29] Antisound: I uploaded our automation scripts [14:29] ok [14:29] Antisound: run ~/kubuntu-automation/git-buildpackage-ppa -s 2 [14:29] without the "run" :) [14:29] wtf [14:29] lol [14:30] that'll take the .tar from KDE and the debian/ from us and add a ppa2 changelog entry and build the source packaging [14:30] apachelogger shadeslayer from project-neon told me that project neon is currently unmaintained and you know more about it? [14:30] but it hasn't worked because of your key? or [14:31] Antisound: if you look in the directory above you have a .orig. (upstream) a .debian.tar.gz (the debian/ directory with packaging) and the .dsc (simple descrption) and .changes (lists what we want to upload) [14:32] ok [14:32] Antisound: I just ran debsign -r on my local computer to add the missing pgp signature [14:32] Antisound: look in the .changes to make sure it looks good [14:32] Antisound: oh wrong .changes file [14:33] it's the ppa2 one we want to upload [14:33] yep looks good to me [14:33] okay [14:33] upload it with dput ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging kdnssd-kf5_5.3.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.10~ppa2_source.changes [14:34] add a --unchecked I guess [14:34] Riddell: hmm got a tiny problem [14:34] i have to leave for some minutes.. [14:34] how long do we need? [14:34] Antisound: just this one command [14:34] and it's done [14:34] ok [14:35]