[01:50] <altecnologic> good night
[02:51] <EdNYC> Good evening!
[03:03] <travnewmatic> EdNYC, good evening to you as well!
[03:03] <EdNYC> :) How are you  doing? always this quiet here?
[03:04] <travnewmatic> i'm just fine!
[03:04] <travnewmatic> and im not sure
[03:04] <travnewmatic> i'm new to this channel myself
[03:04] <travnewmatic> i just recently started using kubuntu
[03:05] <EdNYC> me too. you like it?
[03:05] <travnewmatic> quite a lot actually
[03:05] <travnewmatic> i've historically been a gnome user
[03:05] <travnewmatic> gnome 2 will always have a special place in my heart
[03:06] <EdNYC> :) I was always biased as well, though mainly used windows
[03:06] <travnewmatic> but with what gnome and ubuntu (unity) have been with their desktops, i was looking for something else
[03:06] <EdNYC> but for some reason this time around kubuntu actually feels faster than my win7 on the same machine
[03:06] <travnewmatic> yeah i'm surprised how responsive kubuntu is on this laptop
[03:07] <travnewmatic>  HexChat: 2.9.6 ** OS: Linux 3.13.0-36-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Debian jessie/sid ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.67GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.9GB, 53.6% free ** Disk: Total: 913.8GB, 93.7% free ** VGA: 8086:27a2 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 14e4:1600 ** Uptime: 8h 13m 39s **
[03:07] <EdNYC> :)
[03:07] <EdNYC> nice
[03:07] <EdNYC> good to feel some speed on your pc
[03:07] <travnewmatic> oh for sure
[03:07] <travnewmatic> and its free
[03:07] <travnewmatic> and its mature
[03:08] <travnewmatic> and its going to be actively maintained for the foreseeable future
[03:08] <EdNYC> I may even give Wine a serious shot this time around
[03:08] <travnewmatic> for what purpose?
[03:08] <travnewmatic> gaming?
[03:08] <EdNYC> There's a few programs. Quicken for example.
[03:08] <travnewmatic> aaah
[03:09] <travnewmatic> well then if you dont need horsepower in a windows install, just use virtualbox
[03:09] <travnewmatic> although honestly i can't speak on wine
[03:09] <EdNYC> yes that would be what i would usually do
[03:09] <EdNYC> but it seems like it should work on wine. I've always avoided figuring it out but perhaps it's time
[03:09] <travnewmatic> i used it a long ass time ago, and even then i dont really remember what i used it for
[03:10] <travnewmatic> yeah, i think that was my attitude about kde
[03:11] <travnewmatic> looking forward to plasma 5 getting buttoned up
[03:12] <EdNYC> what are we using now?
[03:12] <EdNYC> 4?
[03:12] <travnewmatic> yeah
[03:15] <EdNYC> is that available now?
[03:15] <travnewmatic> kinda
[03:15] <EdNYC> or are you waiting for a new kubuntu release?
[03:15] <travnewmatic> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/08/kde-plasma-5-for-those-linux-users-undecided-on-the-kernels-future/
[03:15] <travnewmatic> based on that article which isnt terribly old, plasma 5 still has some time in the oven
[03:16] <valorie> plasma 5 is available for 14.04 as a neon5 session
[03:16] <valorie> for 14.10 as a beta ISO
[03:16] <EdNYC> valorie: sorry what does that mean? (neon 5 session)
[03:16] <valorie> and we need testers
[03:16] <travnewmatic> hey valorie! :D
[03:16] <valorie> well, you add the neon5 PPA
[03:16] <EdNYC> gotcha
[03:16] <travnewmatic> valorie, if i wanted to do that should i use a virtual machine or would it be suitable for a native install?
[03:16] <valorie> and than log out of your regular session and into neon5
[03:16] <valorie> it installs to /opt
[03:16]  * TheFakeazneD525 wonders if Plasma 5 will continue to work on windows...
[03:17] <valorie> so it can be 'beside' your regular install
[03:17] <travnewmatic> oh okay thats really cool
[03:17] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: I thought you said not to use PPAs ;)
[03:17] <valorie> in 14.10, it replaces your regular install
[03:17] <valorie> this PPA is provided by the developers
[03:17] <valorie> for the purpose of testing
[03:17] <travnewmatic> i see
[03:18] <valorie> also the backports and updates are good PPAs if you need them
[03:18] <valorie> I didn't say "don't use them"
[03:18] <valorie> I said, "be careful"
[03:18] <valorie> there are no guarantees!
[03:18] <travnewmatic> i've got kde backports enabled on this kubuntu 14.04 install
[03:19] <travnewmatic> valorie, does the whole unity -> mir thing mean anything kubuntu?
[03:19] <travnewmatic> mean anything for*
[03:20] <valorie> not now
[03:20] <travnewmatic> mhm
[03:20] <valorie> it could, in the future
[03:20] <valorie> we'll see
[03:20]  * valorie refuses to worry about it
[03:20] <valorie> since we can do nothing to change it
[03:20] <TheFakeazneD525> Qt will work on Mir, though, due to Unity8
[03:20] <travnewmatic> i wonder how much of mirs success depends on ubuntu touch success
[03:20] <valorie> we are again off-topic
[03:21] <travnewmatic> haha
[03:21]  * valorie heads back to #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:21] <valorie> yes, I have backports and updates as well
[03:25] <EdNYC> will neon5 at all mess with my system?
[03:25] <EdNYC> like if i chose to book plasma4 again, will having installed neon have any side effects
[03:27] <valorie> EdNYC: nope, that's the point of putting it in /opt
[03:28] <EdNYC> i am not very familiar with what it means. but i suppose you mean it puts it in a place parallel to my existing stuff
[03:28] <valorie> right, it's a part of the file system that isn't much used
[03:29] <EdNYC> do you use neon5
[03:33] <EdNYC> travnewmatic and valorie, thanks for the company. Have a good night!
[03:34] <travnewmatic> quite welcome EdNYC !
[03:34] <travnewmatic> hope to see you around here again soon!
[03:35] <valorie> EdNYC: yes, I use it
[03:35] <valorie> for testing, not yet full-time
[03:36] <valorie> have a good evening
[04:33] <tekkbuzz> I got a question maybe someone knows the fix.  My main default panel, when I click the cashew it flashes the panel up and right back off again, in like a millisecond. I can't edit the menu. Has anyone seen this behavior?
[04:35] <tekkbuzz> It's been like this for over a week now, and I'm regreting having to delete the panel and re-add everything back to it.
[04:42] <valorie> tekkbuzz: you might look at ~/.kde/share/apps or /config and check the plasma files for suspicious stuff
[04:42] <valorie> if nothing else, just rename it, and a new one will be created
[04:42] <tekkbuzz> yah, renaming it, I'll try that.
[04:42] <valorie> something is corrupt, for sure
[04:43] <valorie> if that doesn't work, you can log out and do it from the console
[04:44] <valorie> that is usually the advice, but often one can do it without logging out/back in
[04:44] <tekkbuzz> I found that last bug remember, by snooping around, maybe I can find something. It don't hurt to ask, usually someone else has had the same problem.
[04:44] <valorie> haven't seen that particular one
[04:45] <tekkbuzz> me either, and I did some searching, too.
[04:47] <tekkbuzz> I got messed up since I started a game that messed up my 2 displays, I got those figured out except this panel issue.
[04:48] <tekkbuzz> ^I=It
[05:47] <jasoncollege24> When booting into Kubuntu 14.04, it shows the kubuntu splash screen, then my monitor goes into power saving mode. I can access the computer remotely through ssh, and successfully login, so i know it's up. Any ideas why it might not show KDE?
[05:54] <valorie> jasoncollege24: are you using lightdm, or sddm?
[05:55] <valorie> lightdm is default
[05:55] <jasoncollege24> valorie i think it's the default. I have command line access. can i find out from there?
[05:55] <valorie> hmmm, I don't know
[05:56] <jasoncollege24> i have remote terminal access, so i know it's up lol
[05:56] <valorie> but if you didn't change it, it is probably lightdm, so that eliminates that
[05:56] <jasoncollege24> well...
[05:56] <jasoncollege24> i swapped boards, then swapped them back, and now it's doing this
[05:56] <valorie> right, but even when you can access, does the screen light up and display correctly?
[05:56] <jasoncollege24> the other board never worked
[05:56] <valorie> because it could be a driver problem
[05:57] <jasoncollege24> the screen comes on, and posts as normal, then shows the Kubuntu splash screen. I don't get to see the pretty loading screen, or the login screen. it just goes into power saving mode
[05:57] <valorie> esp. if you had another board in there
[05:57] <jasoncollege24> it worked fine before i did the board swaps
[05:58] <jasoncollege24> it was main board i swapped
[05:58] <jasoncollege24> then i added another videocard which did the same, so I dunno what the deal is
[05:58] <valorie> !drivers
[05:58] <jasoncollege24> right now, it's back to the original setup
[05:59] <valorie> pfff, what is the factoid
[05:59] <valorie> !video
[05:59] <valorie> that ubuntu-help/media might be the best bet
[06:00] <valorie> although that's old, most of the video stack hasn't changed recently
[06:01] <jasoncollege24> they don't have to do with my problem that I see
[06:01] <jasoncollege24> it looks like it's about playing video/audio formats
[06:01] <valorie> urg
[06:01] <valorie> not the page I was thinking of
[06:02] <jasoncollege24> lol
[06:02] <jasoncollege24> it happens
[06:02] <jasoncollege24> i usually do this kinda thing for windows ;)
[06:03] <valorie> it's been so long since I had problems I've forgotten how to ask the right questions
[06:03] <jasoncollege24> lol
[06:03] <jasoncollege24> i'm not too bad with linux
[06:03] <jasoncollege24> just certain things still catch me off guard
[06:04] <jasoncollege24> it's like it just turns off when the pretty graphics should be displayed
[06:05] <valorie> jasoncollege24: do you know what video card you have?
[06:05] <valorie> nvidia, amd, etc.?
[06:06] <jasoncollege24> umm... i dunno. it's onboard is all i know off hand
[06:06] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:06] <jasoncollege24> I'll ask another question... do you know how i can access remote desktop from the command line?
[06:06] <valorie> To determine your video card make and model, run this command from terminal:
[06:06] <valorie> lspci | grep VGA
[06:07] <valorie> so that page at least at the top will help you figure out what you are dealing with
[06:07] <valorie> !remote
[06:07] <valorie> hmmm
[06:07] <jasoncollege24> it says it's a VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies
[06:10] <valorie> as for your earlier question, this one looks good: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Precise_Remote_Access
[06:36] <trung> hi
[06:36] <trung> can anyone help me understand why this pipeline does not work properly?
[06:36] <trung> inotifywait -s -m jawter -e moved_to -e close_write | ack test | ack cpp
[06:36] <trung> basically I wanto modify the folder "jawter" for changes
[06:37] <trung> then follow up with 2 commands
[06:37] <trung> the first always work but the second is always stuck
[06:37] <trung> The "ack" are just examples btw
[06:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:48] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: you should play Red Eclipse, packages redeclipse and redeclipse-data
[06:51] <valorie> trung: that isn't really about kubuntu
[06:51] <valorie> I suggest the #linux chan maybe
[08:37] <MinimalLak> hello?
[08:38] <hateball> !ask
[08:40] <MinimalLak> I want to install kubuntu onto another hard drive I have in my computer (which is blank), and see about making it so I can choose from a menu like thing wether to choose to boot to windows 7 pro, or kubuntu without any (or as close to it I can get) nasty side effects
[08:40] <MinimalLak> and im completely noob at dual booting
[08:40] <hateball> !dualboot
[08:41] <hateball> Basically the install guide will take care of it all for you, replacing windows bootloader with GRUB
[08:45] <MinimalLak> I would read through this stuff, but im about to crash, so help sum some stuff up for me before I leave: installng grub won't pear-shape my computer, I can boot into windows 7 and use it as normally as I used it before installing kubuntu onto my secondary hard drive
[08:46] <MinimalLak> and by me crashing, I mean about to fall asleep
[09:00] <MinimalLak> welp, gotta sleep, thanks for the help anyway
[09:09] <burmeisterb> Hello
[09:09] <burmeisterb> Wie gehts Dir?
[09:10] <helbigc> hi
[09:11] <helbigc> wg?
[09:11] <nieguthn> hallo
[09:11] <clausenp> hi
[09:11] <nieguthn> gut und dir
[09:11] <thielem01> izz da wer?
[09:11] <zepkea> YOLO
[09:11] <clausenp> lol
[09:11] <helbigc> ne wir tun nur so
[09:11] <sielaffj> ja ich
[09:11] <jelinekk> hi
[09:11] <schoenfeldd> hiii
[09:11] <schoenfeldd> wg
[09:11] <hateball> !ops
[09:11] <riegnerp> halloooooooooooo...
[09:11] <kutzf> Hallo
[09:11] <jelinekk> moin
[09:11] <reiseo> JO WAHRSCHEINLICH
[09:11] <schoenfeldd> hiiiii
[09:11] <brunzeln> was geht aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbbbbb
[09:11] <zepkea> Wg
[09:11] <riegnerp> ggggghgfgdfdgdhgddddddddddd
[09:11] <sielaffj> jo was geht
[09:11] <jahnken> XD
[09:11] <brunzeln> jkkkkkkkgdnjruhotdgnjthgbhrjegfuhrkztio
[09:11] <reiseo> JO
[09:11] <jelinekk> nice
[09:11] <nieguthn> ¶ŧ←↓ĸ
[09:11] <kutzf> Na wie gehts dir
[09:11] <reiseo> JO
[09:12] <reiseo> JO
[09:12] <thielem01> alles was beine hat
[09:12] <clausenp> xD
[09:12] <reiseo> JO
[09:12] <reiseo> JO
[09:12] <riegnerp> This is mm
[09:12] <kauhsa> komische Leute
[09:12] <reiseo> JO
[09:12] <zepkea> Habe voll die langeweile
[09:12] <unopaste> reiseo you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:12] <brunzeln> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:12] <riegnerp> wmis
[09:12] <nieguthn> jo wie gehts
[09:12] <kutzf> Hahaha
[09:12] <sielaffj> jo
[09:12] <schoenfeldd> bitte aboniieren
[09:12] <helbigc> echt ma
[09:12] <haasep> GLÜCKLICH IN DEM MOEMT
[09:12] <helbigc> ja sichelich
[11:17] <JoWie> what would be a good alternative to Ark?
[11:21] <Riddell> what's up with ark?
[11:25] <lordievader> JoWie: Calling the commandline tools yourself?
[11:28] <JoWie> i use the command line tools often, but all of them, including ark are very cumbersome when I want to extract a single file in a deep directory structure ;)
[11:28] <JoWie> (not that ark is cli)
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:27] <TeraJL> hi there, i'm trying to install mysql-workbench but i get "mysql-workbench : Depends: mysql-client" and if i try to install mysql-client i get " mysql-client : Depends: mysql-community-client (= 5.6.21-1ubuntu14.04) but it is not going to be installed" any help ? :/
[14:31] <ikonia> TeraJL: because you are using the community repo
[14:31] <ikonia> rather than the stable one
[14:32] <ikonia> !info mysql-client
[14:32] <ikonia> as you can see kubuntu uses 5.5 - not community-client 5.6
[14:37] <TeraJL> ikonia: i think the PPA i've added from the mysql-workbench was the one that updated mysql-client :/
[14:40] <mokush> any idea how we can get the breeze-qt4 theme in 14.04?
[14:44] <TeraJL> the "system settings" GTK icons settings doesn't seem to be working, any way to workaround it?
[15:26] <MrJosh> hi, Quick question, Can I upgrade the ram in my Dell inspiron duo flip from 2GB to 4GB, And what ram would I need?
[15:28] <lordievader> MrJosh: Yes and depends.
[15:28] <lordievader> MrJosh: Dmidecode will tell you alot about your system, including what type of memory it uses.
[15:29] <MrJosh> it's given a lot of info, Can I kde past it?
[15:30] <lordievader> MrJosh: Yes, pastebinit would be a nice utility for that: sudo apt-get install pastebinit&&dmidecode|pastebinit
[15:31] <MrJosh> I meant from the link above? http://paste.kde.org | http://paste.kde.org/pkt9lkuur I have already copied it to a paste
[15:33] <Th3H4xor___> hello
[15:34] <lordievader> MrJosh: You have DDR3 memory.
[15:34] <lordievader> Hey Th3H4xor___
[15:35] <MrJosh> how can you tell that from dmidecode? And will any DDR3 work? Or is it a certain one
[15:35] <lordievader> MrJosh: Line 359.
[15:36] <lordievader> MrJosh: And yes any speed will work, lowest denominator is chosen if they are paired with existing memory.
[15:37] <MrJosh> as if I missed that, is there a maximum amount of ram allowed? (was hoping for around 4GB, Extra 2GB)
[15:37] <lordievader> MrJosh: Read the manual of your motherboard.
[15:38] <lordievader> Nowadays 4GB should be no problem. But the machine is older, consult the manual.
[15:40] <MrJosh> can't seem to find the manual for it (was bought off ebay so I don't have it)
[15:41] <lordievader> MrJosh: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/inspiron-duo/manuals
[15:43] <MrJosh> Thanks Lordievader
[15:47] <MrJosh> Searched the manual and it doesn't mention maximum memory, Only (Your computer has one internal SODIMM connector.)
[15:48] <MrJosh> nvm, found it
[15:48] <MrJosh> very sad (Maximum memory 2 GB) lol
[15:48] <lordievader> MrJosh: I was just about to say so...
[15:49] <MrJosh> Yeah I didn't expect this netbook to accept more than 2GB, Just wish it could handle mupen64plus lol
[15:51] <MrJosh> thanks anyways, See ya later, And thanks :)
[16:23] <|xk05|> im having some problems with the 'click' package segfaulting during upgrade
[16:25] <|xk05|> both the 'click' and 'click-apparmor' packages segfault and coredump during any apt operation which is hanging up some things im trying to do, any suggestions?
[17:29] <|xk05|> check that. more packages segfaulting Removing ubuntu-app-launch (0.4+14.10.20140925-0ubuntu1) ...
[17:29] <|xk05|> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:29] <|xk05|> life on the edge, baby!
[17:31] <imbezol> how do i get my laptop to lock the screen when i close the lid?
[17:36] <genii> imbezol: System Settings...Power Management...in left pane, Energy Saving  on right, 3 tabs labelled On AC Power, On Battery, On Low Battery   ..in each tab you can set the behaviour of closing the lid.
[17:37] <imbezol> genii: options are "do nothing", "sleep", "shutdown", "lock screen", and "Turn off screen"
[17:38] <imbezol> selecting sleep does not also lock the screen
[17:38] <imbezol> it wakes up unlocked
[17:39] <imbezol> additionally... when i open the lid, it wakes up.. then goes back to sleep
[17:40] <imbezol> i push the power button and then it wakes up again
[17:40] <imbezol> seems to be some funkiness
[17:42] <genii> Yes, that's not usual.
[18:36] <tyrog> Hi guys how do I install and test Plasma Active latest version in Kubuntu 14.10?
[18:36] <soee> on a touch device >
[18:36] <soee> ?
[18:40] <tyrog> soee: yes :)
[18:40] <tyrog> I'm looking for a DE/distro that has good touchscreen support, with a good layout for touch devices
[18:40] <tyrog> Because I have a hybrid
[18:40] <tyrog> and since the screen is not too big
[18:40] <tyrog> You get the idea :)
[18:41] <tyrog> I don't really mind if the plasma active still has some rough edges, I would like to test it anyway :)
[18:42] <soee> tyrog: yeah i get it :) but sadly i never used plasma active
[18:43] <tyrog> soee: Well I have a keyboard that goes with it, and as a last resource I can use a desktop-tailored DE, but would prefer something more touch-based.
[18:52] <wxl> so i'm using k3b to create and audio cd and it puts all these converted tracks on there. i just want an audio cd, with just cdas on it. how can i do this?
[19:02] <bprompt> wxl:     file  > new project > new audio cd project  <---  on the upper pane, go to where the tracks you want are, and drag and drop below and burn away
[19:03] <wxl> bprompt: did. end up with flacs and mp3s and everything else under the sun, plus the cdas.
[19:03] <bprompt> ?
[19:03] <bprompt> wxl:    what do you mean?
[19:03] <bprompt> wxl:   does it play the cd when you try it in a cd player?
[19:04] <wxl> bprompt: the resulting cd includes cda files (i.e. what a cd should have) AND folders of other crap that i don't want.
[19:04] <wxl> bprompt: trying to use a disc duplication service for the ultimate sale of audio cds. i do not want anything but audio.
[19:07] <bprompt> wxl:    hmmm how do you know the cd includes all those files?    keep in mind that the file manager when mounting an AudioCD device, it creates .wav and folders and .mp3 mappings of the AudioCD that do not exist in the cd structure itself, that's just a KIO service if I recall correctly... that's noticeable when you look at the AudioCD in a file manager
[19:08] <wxl> bprompt: ok lemme look at it in the terminal
[19:08] <bprompt> but those are just mappings... if you try to say... copy the .wav shown in dolphin.... you'll notice that takes a while. because is just converting  it on-the-fly
[19:09] <wxl> argh it doesn't want to mount or nothing
[19:10] <bprompt> yeap
[19:10] <wxl> it's strange i can't read it from a windows computer
[19:10] <wxl> wonder why that is
[19:10] <wxl> maybe a virtualbox issue
[19:10] <bprompt> wxl:    AudioCD devices do not show as some storage device... their mapping is very different... .what you see in dolphin are just mappings made by a KIO iirc
[19:12] <wxl> yep it seems to be a problem with virtual box sadly
[19:12] <wxl> sigh
[19:13] <lordievader> wxl: Are you trying to burn a cd from a virtual machine?
[19:14] <wxl> lordievader: no. there's a duplication service called kunaki that uses windows software to read a cd to be duplicated.
[19:14] <wxl> i.e. NOT A KUBUNTU ISSUE :)
[19:14] <wxl> thx
[19:15] <lordievader> wxl: 'to be duplicated' so you do write to a cd.. I thought that was impossible to do from a VM.
[19:16] <wxl> lordievader: nono. the vm is just reading the cd. which supposedly vbox can do.
[19:16] <lordievader> Guess I'm interpreting it wrongly.
[19:16] <wxl> do you care to know? :)
[19:17] <lordievader> wxl: If it is an issue to you, yes. Else, meh.
[19:18] <wxl> meh then, lordievader. thanks. :)
[19:18] <Camil> Hello fellows!
[19:18] <lordievader> ;)
[19:18] <Camil> Does anyone installed DreamDesktop?
[19:18] <lordievader> Hey Camil
[19:18] <lordievader> Camil: What's that?
[19:20] <Camil> lordievader: Wo! One second
[19:20] <bprompt> 1
[19:21] <Camil> lordievader:
[19:21] <Camil> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTmwtvAR464
[19:21] <Camil> https://github.com/jarzebski/Plasma-Wallpaper-DreamDesktop
[19:22] <lordievader> Ah I thought it would be something like that ;)
[20:03] <Camil> So
[20:03] <Camil> Anyone installed Dreamdesktop¿?
[21:07] <luc__> hi anyone knows where I can find recent plasma 5 neon iso?
[21:08] <libreSSL> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-plasma5/daily-live/current/
[21:08] <luc__> libreSSL thanks
[21:09] <tyrog> libreSSL: by the way, do you know if that includes plasma active interface?
[21:09] <libreSSL> idk
[21:09] <libreSSL> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/trusty/daily-live/current/
[21:10] <tyrog> is it safe to install that one if it isn't update?
[21:12] <Asus1> !ops | i love you elky
[21:22] <Asus1> !ops
[21:27] <marin_> hi
[22:35] <penwiky> Hey
[22:35] <malc-calc> ho
[22:37] <penwiky> Wireless. Is on browser doesn't work. You happen to know why
[22:44] <malc-calc> no internet connection after the wifi ?
[22:48] <penwiky> I can ping. Just can't browse the web or update
[22:50] <malc-calc> what browser?
[22:51] <malc-calc> and what address you ping?